Honestly ranks in tekken are horseshit,Ive seen people LEAUGES apart in skill on the same rank .It depends on so many factors that it just isn't accurate to call a fujin better than a mighty ruler.Small things like learning optimal combos,ducking strings,learning frame data etc are much better to determine your skill.
I don’t think those things are accurate either. More than frames, or matchup knowledge, things like fundamentals are what really set players apart. Things like neutral, adaptability, understanding of turns and mind games are far more indicative of skill than being able to execute an optimal combo.
Remember tekkens basically the same game for 20 years.. I've got 1000s of hours in Tekken form T2-T8, I can tell the difference between a T8 player and a T7 or T6 (they all play Leo)
I'm at Bushin with Steve, feels like I can still beat some people by just moving, going into peekabo instantly and then doing strings. The mashing is insane in this game.
Early blue: *Finding out what buttons do* Green: *Finding out what more buttons do* Yellow-Orange: *Start learning combos plus mashing helps* Red-Purple: *You've found a character you like and learned strings and combos that most people get irritated by* Blue: *You actually start knowing your shit* Above: *You know your shit*
Red purple is FACTS. in this area, in my case you are technically better than most but its your skill vs strings. and you need to learn to guard strings. not the player using the character. in red-purple. most people are rubbish after using heat and backing you into a wall and spamming.
Wrong sometimes. I've encountered blue ranks on MULTIPLE occasions that are just braindead mashers, especially King and Victor players. They're very flow charty and try to get you with your lack of knowledge about their character. When you actually know their character, they have no idea what to do next.
Another thing to consider is your character pick. Getting to Mighty Ruler on King is not the same as getting to it on Bryan/Kazuya/Lee, the work you need to put in is completely different. So if you hit these ranks on a hard character, pat yourself on the back.
Naww ur right . Trust me. I’ve gotten so many characters to purple rank or higher but when it came down to a few select characters.. I realized u had to work harder , so hard that I dropped the characters . Just to name who I’m talking about : KAZUYA Xioyou Asuka Panda/Kuma And there’s probably others , but all of these I’ve tried . Don’t believe me? Try eddy and you’ll rank up fast . Try victor and you’ll rank up fast.. dawg their easy lol
I agree with both of you, you can scrub out kazuya say to purple by doing 1234.. But kazuyas super hard to defend with the aggressive style once you get to red or purple
@@EnjinFGC I have a friend who is terrible at fighting games but picked King, he's currently sitting at Fujin with a 37 defense score, all he does is spam armor moves, random hopkicks and throws and wins hella games. I have a friend who plays Lee (I also play Lee) He's also Fujin, 76 defense, he wins games by tactically conditioning opponents, blocking strings, hitting optimal punishes and combos and just generally being smart about his play, if you were to get them to switch characters, the Lee player would be able to play King to Fujin with ease, but the King player wouldn't have a single clue how to escape Vanquisher with Lee. It's definitely not the same amount of effort and knowledge put into the game
@@Josefuumii true, those characters that are labeled as "hard" are not hard because of execution (though Kazuya is definitely on the hard side in terms of execution) but because they don't have funny gimmicks and strings that knowledge check people and have to actually learn conditioning, positioning, game sense, side stepping, block punishing etc... in order to see real progress. Also Tekken 8 rank inflation is HUGE, you can see people who still play like this is a 2D game in top 5-10%. I used to be Yellow in Tekken 7 with Kazuya and although I definitely improved I don't think I deserve the Purple I am right now.
After thousands of hours in Tekken my biggest advice for new rank players would be to ignore rank and win rate as top 1 measure of your skill at start. Treat game like OSU! where you try to do best punish/combo/movement/read/etc. ofc you will fail, ofc you will lose rank.. but sometimes you win battle by making that one combo that you couldn't, you finally made punish for move that annoy you even if you lose the mach. Trust me with that attitude you will be able to rank passively without tryharding rank points. Everrone can pick some top tier char and perform very well to get fast high rank, but that not the point. And avoid playing salty, always bad idea, anger will make you more predictable and susceptible for traps of your opponent. GG have fun
there are still a LOT of really bad players abusing flowcharts and heat pressure and get carried to max kishin. when you check the profile for a lot of these players, they often have shitty defense stats and almost max attack/aggression
Why are you even looking at that? Is that how you cope with your loss, by comparing stats? I also don't understand the stigma behind playing aggressively. The goal is to reduce your opponent's hp lower than your own, potentially knocking them out before the time runs out. To do that, you need to attack. Seems the only reason it's disliked is because it's difficult to deal with -- which means it works -- which means it's a valid strategy.
@@EnjinFGC I agree with Ironfist since a lot of the agression in tekken 8,unlike tekken 7 in standardised,meaning you are forced to eat a 50/50 and characters can engage on each other way easier.
just hit red with Jin and im finally learning my counterhit combo before going back into ranked lol there is so much depth to this game I can tell I will be learning a long long long time
Please dont worry about rank. You’re very fun to watch and if you’re having fun I think that’s most important. Just have fun with it, see what new things you can get out of it. Don’t worry about anything else.
My highest ranked character is Fujin. I want to at least get to Kishin which is the equivalent to my Tekken 7 rank Yaksa. I like the higher level match-ups in blue ranks. My best advice is once you rank-up, go back to quick matches to get comfortable playing your rank and just have fun . When you start to improve and "git gud" then go back to rank to see where you stand
That's what I do, once I'm comfortable with ranks I reached in Quick Match, I might crawl back out to Ranked. Recently did a jump from Garyu to Mighty Ruler after practicing a lot in Quick Match. Taking it slow and using Quick Match as practice mode as well, not rushing anywhere with Ranked.
That's one way to go about it. You can also just accept that you'll lose the rank a few times on your climb. It can be frustrating but it doesn't have to be the end of the world.
I'm currently Tekken King Asuka atm. I had a 10 win streak in Quick Matches, so I decided to jump back in ranked for a bit until I lost. Ended up with another 10 game win streak and flew through Kishin and Bushin lol. Let's hope Tekken King is difficult!
So in my experience playing tournaments offline and online, Tekken rank won’t really tell anyone how “good” or bad you are. In this game. What matters is what small goals you can achieve like ducking strings and punishing. If you know my character in and out it’s going to come down to reads and movement.
I agree totally, the best way to test your skills is in a bracket. But when you're just starting out its temping to use in game rank as a personal measure. either way tekken is badass and I love playing it so thats all that matters
im a tenryu bryan main and already fighting blue and purples, im having fun tho and also feel proud that i fight toe to toe with blue ranks plus even if i get my ass beat i can still learn from higher ranks
Blue rank is another world really. Biggest changes ive seen come when you make to red, you see semi competent offence but a lot of bad patrerns. Making it too purples is just a red ranks refined. The upper blue ranks and beyond know a lot of matchups and will knowledge check you in many ways. It feels like the gap you experience as a new player when you first start playong these gods.
You misread the percentile for Garyu. The numbers shown in that chart are INVERSE percentiles so if 60% of players are garyu or above that means they're only better than about 40% of all players. You can double-check this by adding up the all percents from the first graph up to garyu and it comes out to 36.55%. That means a player isn't above average until they reach tenryu.
4:17 Honestly, it was that SAT analogy that made it click that it’s so arbitrary and hard to get a consensus. I mean hell, most people have realized that SAT scores are stupid. I was Saludatorian of my graduating HS class with a 1100, meanwhile one of my friends, who had a much lower GPA than me, had a 1500. It’s the same for Tekken. I can be a Garyu all I want, but that won’t stop my brother in Warrior from being able to actively take sets from me in convincing fashion, simply due to an experience gap. In a general sense though, a Blue rank *should* be able to beat players far below their rank, but when you think of matchup knowledge, fundamentals, or even simply if this was their goody day of playing, a lot can really make a difference. All of the yapping to say, just because you’re in a higher rank won’t auto equate to being better. Just make sure that you have a great grip on your character and the basics of the game, as you go higher incorporate more things into your arensal (Frametraps, optimal combos, good wall carry moves, etc). Above all though, *Dont treat this like a job, you’re meant to have fun while playing the game, and enjoy the process of learning more about the game.* With a good attitude, a lot of fun can be had in numerous different things, game or not.
Most universities are moving away from using standardized tests (ACT/SAT) because they are historically prejudiced, but also because they aren't that great at determining student readiness for college. Need proof? Look at Texas and all the schools no longer requiring SAT/ACT for admission. And its not just here -- its the whole USA. These metrics are just a collection of SOME data about a player -- nothing more or less. And none of it will save you in a tournament -- if you do good, it's because you did good. Not because you are a certain color. Does that mean you're a "good" player? Who knows? How are you defining it? It all gets muddy. Also, good players lose. Just because you get demoted doesn't automatically mean you suck. Apply that back out to college, you got hella people who made billions and dropped out or flat never went. If money is your measure, then college doesn't mean much. If you are talking about achievement in a scholastic field, or a high-skill field, then yeah, college is going to be the way to meet the people who know how to help (and by that point, talking about your SAT score is like talking about making honor roll in 1st grade -- no. one. cares.)
Pretty cool analysis, I'm currently in Battle Ruler in T8 trying for Fujin. In Tekken 7, I started playing seriously instead of casually, got up to mid redsl ranks.
The best way to get better at Tekken is to have your tekken community teach you. I have been playing with them a lot, got my ass beaten and learned a lot. We have a GoD in our community beat me, he isn't saying a word, nor communicate about what I should do, but for sure he's beating me with fundamentals like spacing, punishing. I would be lucky to land 2 or 3 combo juggles on him out of 10 matches. He's just untouchable, and now I learned how to punish properly and to be patient. Now I've been playing online tekken for 16 hours in, and now I'm in Fujin. Ranks just doesn't matter, your skill does.
Depends on region. Based on my anecdote here is my list for easier to harder regions, based on regions I can play with good connection. This only applies to ranks upto Mid Blue ranks btw. Very Difficult: Middle East, Asia 1 Difficult: South Korea, Asia 3 Little Difficult: Asia 2, Japan Phillipines players are really strong since they get to fight almost all Asian regions with decent connection. Middle East region is now strong because it also includes Pakistan now. And it is harder for them to find matches. Asia 1 also sometimes includes Pakistan players, Nepal players, but mostly Indian players I think. If I have to rate Europe region, maybe it is about one color inflated compared to Asia 2 server. But it is based on lounge and few European matches I had in Lounges or QMs. They noticably lack adaptability, punish, combo damage compared to Asia 2.
That can't be true, because LTG and DSP are in Blue Ranks. I refuse to acknowledge them as above average or good considering all the times they keep losing
@@siopaoguy>LTG. BRUH. System helps you to climb up to blue ranks, cause you need less then 50% winrate to move forward. Fujin is the equator - to move forward you need MORE then 51% winrate, so a lot of players stucks in Fujin rank. There you are going threw skill check with players who reached Raijin+ rank, so Standart mashing and easy strats just stop working with them. On blue ranks people start fully learning setups and sidestepping. But to move forward after blue ranks you need something really special like machup knowledges and advanced moving
@@siopaoguy You don't think that people that have been playing fighting games for like 20 years and play them for a living would be better than the average person? They're scrubs attitude wise but it would be batshit insane for them to be bad at the game.
@@Megadeus0 I know but those 2 specifically are terrible people who refuse to learn and improve. They always complain and shift the blame onto others instead of being accountable of their actions...SO HOW THE HELL ARE THEY SOMEHOW IN BLUE RANKS IS UNFAIR!
I'd argue purple ranks are more like platinum/diamond. It takes a lot of work if you're new to tekken to go from red to purple. Gold is easy to get in basically any competitive game.
Love the production level of your video honestly! High spirit and fun commentary! Would love to see more! But I feel like a deeper dive on the topic should've been done. No offense but to say "if you're orange you aren't very good" or "if you're blue then you're definitely good" is far too broad of a blanket statement. You'll see Xiaoyus and Yoshimitsus knowledge checking and flowcharting at Tekken King layer and not have very well invested fundamentals, then you'll see Jins and Shaheens playing their absolute hearts out with great fundies at the purple layer. The game simply put is WAY too wide to just encompass everything under a "if you made it here, you're good" label, and it's not fair to anyone who hasn't made it there yet but clearly have the fundamentals to eventually make it. PLUS, let us not forget the fact that ranked point delivery is literally designed to PUSH everyone towards purple ranks. You don't even need a positive win rate to make it into purples, something like 40% will do it. And I'm saying this as a guy who is currently pushing my 10th character (Jin) to Mighty Ruler and I can usually purple a character in 2-3 sessions. I still don't believe myself to be very good at the game despite that. ALSO, let's not forget that like-prowess matchmaking results in ranks meaning quite literally NOTHING because no matter your rank you'll always be matching with someone that is a similar prowess to you now and your rank literally is just a reflection of a positive/negative winrate at this point. (Trust me, at 10 characters learned, getting 200k prowess yellow rank players is wild, they play like they're on crack LOL) But yeah, this isn't to be argumentative or anything. I just believe that attempting to pursue and reinforce the rank conversation is not good for the health of the Tekken community. The more people can separate their skill from their rank THE BETTER. Because it'll help people stick with the game for a longer time.
Honestly, great video, input and love your interaction in the video!! Underrated take! Subscribed and looking forward to more stuff!! And no shame in Tenryu! I just finally reached purple and almost close to Blue with Shaheen and my only character I’ve played!! 😂😅 Opponents wise, I’ve ran into so many Asukas, Alisas, and Reinas!
Well researched, very well made video!! I've personally been thinking of the rank system as like a belt system in the martial arts, and my auto promote ranks for the other characters is my "true" belt. keeps me humble lol
I’m very well done video, sir. That fujin drop off is real. Feng a Nina player here and there’s no way I’m getting any higher. My hat is off to anybody who managed to get higher and to those sticking with the game regardless of rank because that’s also not easy to do with life. I had to take a break, since our gym’s Brazilian jiu-jitsu and Krav maga classes got a ton of new people in and they needed a little more assistant coaching from the more long-term guys, but I definitely want to go back since the new patch dropped.
Achieved Raijin rank today as Asuka player. The struggle is real but knowing that I achieved that rank as Asuka (since she is not really in a good shape in terms of balance) makes me feel proud of myself. It's my first Tekken and I am playing on keyboard ^^'
Whenever this subject comes up peoples opinions are all over the place which is why i dont listen to that but instead the stats like you showed. People can say battle ruler is a middle rank all they like, the fact of the matter is that you're better than most of the playerbase by a huge margin at that point. Of course players can cheese ranks but that is the exception not the rule and they usually get hardstuck at the same rank for months
To be honest, i just got in Cavalry rank and i challenged people that spam and uses special combat...like, they think thats skill and thats NOT fun to play against. For those that are high rank and are like this, you living in a dream
I think another reason why the first rank for any given colour is a lot higher is that people will just stop playing ranked for a bit or change character due to fear of demoting back down to the previous tier
The one thing I will say that I feel is right. If you end up getting past Garyu (Lowest Red) then you have exceeded past the casual threshold for the most part.
I don't think that's right cuz when i was in red ranks i was getting an opponent very fast even faster than before red ranks but when i entered purple rank it was much harder to find an opponent but now at blue ranks i wait for more than a half of hour (these was before i quit the game in june cuz of the time i spent waiting to find players in ranked and if i was going to find one he's most likely going to be lower than purple rank and i won't get higher than 100points)
dont listen to this dude hes still struggling in red ranks, red ranks are like green ranks in T7. im sick of ppl that arent ACTUALLY good in the game trying to tell ppl they know all about ranks, but have never even reached tekken god let alone made it to blue ranks. STOP TAKING ADVICE FROM PPL THAT STILL IN RED OR PURPLE RANKS. AND ESCPIALLY DONT LISTEN TO TEKKEN KING PLAYERS THAT PLAY AZU OR VICTOR or any of the other overpwoered characters that they can cheese with...(feng,drag,alisa etc) these ppl are PRO MASHERS, and dont know shit, the second they pick a character like bryan or kaz they play like ass.
Sometimes it’s character dependent some characters are easier to rank up with(harder for new and lesser skilled players to figure out in a ft2 setting), coupled with the fact the game is new. I’m at Tekken emperor with multiple characters. And I can tell you there are players a lot of players at Tekken king with zero fundamentals and more gimmicks who would be in green ranks in T7 lol I was TGP in T7 and a lot of pros don’t even play ranked which is why you see then at lower ranks then you would expect.
This is true. I've seen Kishins and Bushins that are all flow-chart. They overwhelm you with their offense and don't rematch so you never get to adapt and beat them. You look at their stats and their defense is in the 40s. No fundamentals. Absolutely pathetic.
I see what you’re saying. There are certainly players in high ranks that play easier characters but I dont think playing a difficult character vs a simple one makes one a better player. As far as people abusing flow charts or maxed out offense I still would consider that highly skilled despite how unbalanced of a play-style that may be.
@@EnjinFGCscrub quote me but winning doesn't mean your good. If you wanna play Claudio and high crush all my jabs sure feel free, doesn't make you good
I would say Kishin is where you can start finding objectively good players. Tho I disagree with the Tekken Emperor to God of Destruction bit. There are many people stuck between TK and TE, and of course GoD is just entirely another level. I'm currently TGS and I could not for the life of me get to GoD.
I hit fujin months ago, first fighting game i have actually "played". I have no clue what im doing. The notion that I am "good" is laughable. and it is extremely clear that almost none of my opponents have any clue whats happening either lol
As a hwoa player I can definitely say that he is probably the easiest character to climb rank with just for the simple fact that his flowchart can change so much to the point where my opponent could be ducking thinking their safe to be launched for a 50% combo like I love hwoa for the versatility he has and not being subjected to a neutral type of play style most characters have
Win on top of Wins, not only you are a Gachiakuta, Tekken enjoyer, but you're also a Soul Eater connoisseur ? I'll definitely stick to your channel. Keep up the good work Enjin ! 💪🏾🔥
Im currently a flame ruler and I did end up beating a tekken king player on a quick match. So yes rank doesn't always determine your skill level. I just happen to have good fundamental knowledge of fighting games since i play other titles even tho tekken isn't my main. Different fighting games can certainly carry over your skills to other fighting genres.
I'm in blue rank and tbh even people in blue ranks are just knowledge checking with their characters the only difference between them and the lower ranks is they have a basic understanding of defense, will bait things instead of yolo mashing and know how to block basic strings to an extent, I definitely think blue ranks are pretty good, but I wouldn't call them (or even me) great at the game by any means. Tekken and Smash melee are probably THE hardest fighting games you can play.
It's the difference between starting with tekken 8 and starting from tekken 1. There are people in GoD with 20 years experience and people in fujin who picked up the game in January this year
Kishin Bryan here. Kishin and up you’ll find more players know what they’re doing. But “good Tekken players” are found offline, that’s just how it’s always been. Hope this helps, just have fun.
All this talk about when you’re considered “good” at tekken. When to be honest tekken doesn’t get hard until you play someone who can block all your strings. And in my experience that didn’t happen to me until I got to fujin. Fujin is where defensive becomes just as important as offensive. You can’t win if you can’t hit your opponent and they just punish you the whole match. Anybody struggling to get to blue, learn to block and punish.
Thing is there are multiple factors to consider. Ranked matches go by Tekken Prowess. A person will have it easier Gavin one character ranked up than the person who bloated their prowess by playing multiple characters. Second, some characters go completely unchecked all the way to middle purple ranks, like King feeds on people who can’t break throws consistently, and the bears are nothing but gimmicks that most players do not learn.
Fujin player here. I play every day against my friends who are in Kishin/Bushin ranks and we all agree on one thing: don't stress about online ranked. Honestly you'd think that around the blue ranks people would now be really good... but you will always run into some scrubby shit and dumb gimicks. Just the nature of ranked games
I think that it depends also on WHEN you play: if you fight in the evening or in the afternoon you 'll find different skills in players with the same rank. Usually the more late in the evening /night you play, the more strong opponent you can face also with lower ranks. This could be also because players have also other things to do (it's called life...!) and can be online concerning with work, sport, or school...it seems to me that professional players usually go online in the evening and keep on fighting until late night.
The real reason the first rank of every colour is alot higher is because most people will achieve first red, first purple or first blue rank then call it a day. Probably jump to quick matches to hold onto their rank where they cant demote.
makes sense. getting to garyu was not quite as stressful as obtaining diamond in sf6 but I will say, red ranks being the most common ranks does remind me of platinum for sf6 because that was by far the most common rank there so in sf6 terms id say garyu is platinum
I'm rank Bushin Asuka player and I think this video is pretty accurate. However imo you are not good until you pass Fujin or maybe when you hit Kishin. In Blue Rank it's different as you keep going up from here you will fight people that know one or more of these 3 skills; how to side step/walk and punish you, ducking correctly with ws launch punish, or knowing character's frames so they will know on block what's the +frame is to punish you back correctly. Like Fujin doesn't count cause some people can get here with easy characters. I say if you truly wanna learn how to play tekken then definitely climb the Blue Rank.
Im a battle ruler currently and I just recently fought a Kuma who was flame ruler who only got there by spamming two or three extremely effective attacks. I won in the end but it really put into perspective how easy it was for someone to cheese their way to the top
Bushin Kazuya main here Probably would be way beyond that if I stuck to Yoshi since Kaz is so bad in this game but it's funny to be generally better than the people you play, even if you lose The biggest problem is that ranked matches are always best of 3 and there are so many one and doners that I don't get the necessary time to download all the cheese that gets thrown at me Mandatory ft5 matches or get no points at all would put me beyond Tekken King easily.
I just got to might ruler with lars today and my lee is at flame ruler. Proud of them I play the game for fun and to show off my characters. I can remember my ranks associated with things i’ve learned and implemented I believe now I should start learning side steps as my game is virtually zero and have been honing my blocking skills. Edit: I am now at raijin with my lars.
Jin would definitely be the mfer to either dodge the high five or counter hit you in your ribs because of it Edit: for the win rate chart, around the middle the Paul, Jin, Lee-ish section it's basically because people have had to study the matchup for them. Bryan on down to like Xiaoyu/Steve is difficulty of the characters, Jun Kazuya and Reina is because so many people play the character and you see them so much you just naturally adapted to fighting them because you memorized the knowledge checks, also Kazuya kinda weak right now.
Reina is the sole reason i am still in red ranks. Everytime i am about to rank up i always get paired with Reina. Also the further you go the more often you match up with the same people
As tekken god, I can confirm, blue ranks know what they're supposed to be doing but always execute it very poorly or predictably. They also typically mash once they realise this. Above blue, each subsequent rank has huge skill gaps. A very difficult thing to describe but you basically haven't played tekken before this point. During my climb, I hated playing vs blue ranks because despite being completely free they didn't grant any points. The literal definition of a waste of time. And this is coming from someone who's nowhere near the top rank.
Im happy with my red rank. This is my first tekken. Heck its the first fighting game that i played for more than 3 hours. Currently at 80 hours (most of that is in customization). But yea, im chilling.
this makes sense but is also wrong. Both games are skewed in ranking but for different reasons. Tekken has cheating mechanics all over it still on PC, so crossplay and PC matches i just dont trust at all. Tekken 7 was flooded with bots and cheat engine stuff all over and nobody believed it until 8's launch and people realized how bad it still is because Tekken 8 cant actually catch cheaters in the act red handed and then disqualify them, Bamco and Tekken Project just sees who has used cheats after a match ended, and they only bother to study a player if theyre reported. the cheat methods for 7 and now in 8 are ridiculously busted. 8 also has the pump and dump issues of players leaving after a single match and never doing a best of 3 or 5 it is, im tired i forget. Ive also been convinced that PC players have found a way to look and pretend as a Playstation player or Xbox player with a fake PSN or Xbox profile all the time, Microsoft is so malleable in software and cheaters played on 360 all the time in shooters, PSN has gotten DDoS'd before, so none of this even matters. League of Legends is a completely different animal. League has toxic chat, has toxic trolls, iron, bronze and silver players throw deliberately as trolling all the time. People drop out of matches and that still determines, you could end up playing a 3v5 and losing an unfair fight and it fully counts as an L. Tekken and League are equally hard for their own unique reasons. But I would argue Tekken 8 is inflated with players who are high rank and shouldn't be based on true skill because of how abusive the unbalanced roster is. I have buddies who were emperor on T7 and its unbalanced as hell now, im Fujin Lars, I kept dropping from the first purple rank in 7 a month before 8 came out. Theres a lot of players who are just so aggressive against less aggressive players, and they steamroll them cuz of 8's new changes. But one you find a hole to poke and knowledge check the aggressive players, you see them panic and become very predictable like a 5 year old. I was told ages ago on T7's launch and in arcades, many characters were notoriously busted in several different ways, Paul could easily do a death combo on you and his unblockable did like 60% hp. Lili was a nightmare in 7 in arcades and in launch. It seems like Tekken starts out as vinegar in terms of balances and ends up as wine as time passes, and League is like that with each new champ and rework.
Honestly putting Kishin as Platinum is a bad take. Dude in Overwatch diamond is the top 18% of players. In tekken Kishin is like the top 8% of players or maybe even less. How can you say diamond starts in the top 8%? Diamond is top 18-20% so diamond starts at Fujin. Yellow is bronze/iron. Orange is silver. Red is gold. Purple is plat. Blue is diamond and Bushin is where the masters ranks start That said purple/top of purple being good is probably about right
People need to focus on getting better instead of just getting a rank. I’ve seen Bushin Hwoarangs that only spam powercrushes and strings on console with 40 defense lol. That doesn’t fly on PC😭
I worked so hard to get Bryan to Fujin+ and took a break from him to decompress. I no joke got both Raven and Feng into Ruler/Fujin from yellow within 2hrs each…while drunk!!! I can’t make this up, went into ranked thinkn I’d have a tough time especially not being sober and both characters surpassed my main Bryan in a lil over an hour of playing them. Mind you I barely know combos and setups with them, they’re so much better overall especially in heat. Characters definitely water down a player’s rank in this game, many characters carry heavily.
@@devindeford4386 i dont think you can reach this rank by just being good at other fighting games. There is so much more to it. Im not even close to God of destruction but i dont think i‘ll ever reach if i dont know every match up. So yeah as a „ new player“ i dont think its possible.
@@OroJacksn yes you can lmao. You underestimate transferable skills from different games. I know what Tekken is but never played it a competitive level, so the idea I wouldnt be able to reach a certain rank is crazy lol
I don’t buy ranks at all. I’m battle ruler and just SLAUGHTERED a god of destruction 6 rounds to 0. Rank is pretty much entirely match up luck and time 😂
Also, Tekken prowess matters. I reached Tekken king, which boosted me from 190k prowess to 230k. Then I got deranked to kishin, but still 229k ish....so as the matchmaking pairs you with same tekken prowess I was fighting only people that reached Tekken king at least once. So ranking back to bushin the second time was way harder than reaching it the first time. So now I'm like bushin 2.0😅
Honestly ranks in tekken are horseshit,Ive seen people LEAUGES apart in skill on the same rank .It depends on so many factors that it just isn't accurate to call a fujin better than a mighty ruler.Small things like learning optimal combos,ducking strings,learning frame data etc are much better to determine your skill.
I don’t think those things are accurate either. More than frames, or matchup knowledge, things like fundamentals are what really set players apart. Things like neutral, adaptability, understanding of turns and mind games are far more indicative of skill than being able to execute an optimal combo.
I mean im upper reds, but goddamn, there are some people who cant handle my bs on way higher levels
bro someone in BUSHIN was playing like a destroyer
Remember tekkens basically the same game for 20 years..
I've got 1000s of hours in Tekken form T2-T8, I can tell the difference between a T8 player and a T7 or T6 (they all play Leo)
@@spero360Yeah cause you do dumb shit
Tekken king Steve here, the skill jump once you get to blue is massive
Bro I play Steve - tekken king Steve is god of destruction drag easy lol
@@Edcas1226 gotta keep grinding until GoD Steve 🫡💪🏿
I'm at Bushin with Steve, feels like I can still beat some people by just moving, going into peekabo instantly and then doing strings. The mashing is insane in this game.
@@bonfist7277 oh for sure , the number of people I beat by doing PAB f2-1 in b1 is insane
@@bonfist7277this! I don’t understand how to beat someone if they are abusing super positive moves 😂
*No matter what rank u get you wil STILL be a green rank with 2 brain cells!* -The Tekken Community
The ego of the tekken community is astronomical.
"Lol, cope harder" - the definitely not arrogant at all tekken player.
Early blue: *Finding out what buttons do*
Green: *Finding out what more buttons do*
Yellow-Orange: *Start learning combos plus mashing helps*
Red-Purple: *You've found a character you like and learned strings and combos that most people get irritated by*
Blue: *You actually start knowing your shit*
Above: *You know your shit*
couldn't say it better myself
kinda yesn't, I can kill fujins as garyu, I gotta admit I have been playing just arcades lately so my rank dont change, but still
Red purple is FACTS. in this area, in my case you are technically better than most but its your skill vs strings. and you need to learn to guard strings. not the player using the character.
in red-purple. most people are rubbish after using heat and backing you into a wall and spamming.
Wrong sometimes. I've encountered blue ranks on MULTIPLE occasions that are just braindead mashers, especially King and Victor players. They're very flow charty and try to get you with your lack of knowledge about their character. When you actually know their character, they have no idea what to do next.
tell that to reina players, raijin one and doners that just mash 11 mix string lol (its -14 so its launchable by lars and bryan)
Another thing to consider is your character pick.
Getting to Mighty Ruler on King is not the same as getting to it on Bryan/Kazuya/Lee, the work you need to put in is completely different.
So if you hit these ranks on a hard character, pat yourself on the back.
I would argue it is actually the same. Playing a difficult character is admirable but I dont think that makes someone more skilled in a general sense
Naww ur right . Trust me. I’ve gotten so many characters to purple rank or higher but when it came down to a few select characters.. I realized u had to work harder , so hard that I dropped the characters . Just to name who I’m talking about :
KAZUYA
Xioyou
Asuka
Panda/Kuma
And there’s probably others , but all of these I’ve tried .
Don’t believe me?
Try eddy and you’ll rank up fast . Try victor and you’ll rank up fast.. dawg their easy lol
I agree with both of you, you can scrub out kazuya say to purple by doing 1234..
But kazuyas super hard to defend with the aggressive style once you get to red or purple
@@EnjinFGC I have a friend who is terrible at fighting games but picked King, he's currently sitting at Fujin with a 37 defense score, all he does is spam armor moves, random hopkicks and throws and wins hella games.
I have a friend who plays Lee (I also play Lee)
He's also Fujin, 76 defense, he wins games by tactically conditioning opponents, blocking strings, hitting optimal punishes and combos and just generally being smart about his play, if you were to get them to switch characters, the Lee player would be able to play King to Fujin with ease, but the King player wouldn't have a single clue how to escape Vanquisher with Lee.
It's definitely not the same amount of effort and knowledge put into the game
@@Josefuumii true, those characters that are labeled as "hard" are not hard because of execution (though Kazuya is definitely on the hard side in terms of execution) but because they don't have funny gimmicks and strings that knowledge check people and have to actually learn conditioning, positioning, game sense, side stepping, block punishing etc... in order to see real progress.
Also Tekken 8 rank inflation is HUGE, you can see people who still play like this is a 2D game in top 5-10%. I used to be Yellow in Tekken 7 with Kazuya and although I definitely improved I don't think I deserve the Purple I am right now.
After thousands of hours in Tekken my biggest advice for new rank players would be to ignore rank and win rate as top 1 measure of your skill at start. Treat game like OSU! where you try to do best punish/combo/movement/read/etc. ofc you will fail, ofc you will lose rank.. but sometimes you win battle by making that one combo that you couldn't, you finally made punish for move that annoy you even if you lose the mach. Trust me with that attitude you will be able to rank passively without tryharding rank points. Everrone can pick some top tier char and perform very well to get fast high rank, but that not the point. And avoid playing salty, always bad idea, anger will make you more predictable and susceptible for traps of your opponent. GG have fun
there are still a LOT of really bad players abusing flowcharts and heat pressure and get carried to max kishin. when you check the profile for a lot of these players, they often have shitty defense stats and almost max attack/aggression
I think if you got to a certain rank you deserve it 100%. If you're in that rank because you maxed out your offence i still think that's commendable
Why are you even looking at that? Is that how you cope with your loss, by comparing stats?
I also don't understand the stigma behind playing aggressively. The goal is to reduce your opponent's hp lower than your own, potentially knocking them out before the time runs out. To do that, you need to attack. Seems the only reason it's disliked is because it's difficult to deal with -- which means it works -- which means it's a valid strategy.
@@EnjinFGC I agree with Ironfist since a lot of the agression in tekken 8,unlike tekken 7 in standardised,meaning you are forced to eat a 50/50 and characters can engage on each other way easier.
just hit red with Jin and im finally learning my counterhit combo before going back into ranked lol there is so much depth to this game I can tell I will be learning a long long long time
This game is SO deep, good luck brother
Which combo would that be?
@@TodayNot f4 ch into wave dash standing 4 or zen ewgf
@@TodayNot probably CH F4
Thank you Fighting Enjin! I used to be Bushin but after watching your videos I'm now in Garyu! Keep it up!!
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As a fujin i can relate 🗿
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Please dont worry about rank. You’re very fun to watch and if you’re having fun I think that’s most important. Just have fun with it, see what new things you can get out of it. Don’t worry about anything else.
My highest ranked character is Fujin. I want to at least get to Kishin which is the equivalent to my Tekken 7 rank Yaksa. I like the higher level match-ups in blue ranks. My best advice is once you rank-up, go back to quick matches to get comfortable playing your rank and just have fun . When you start to improve and "git gud" then go back to rank to see where you stand
I’m a Rajin rn and I do the same thing everytime I rank up expect go to sessions and join higher ranks and play them till I feel like got better
That's what I do, once I'm comfortable with ranks I reached in Quick Match, I might crawl back out to Ranked. Recently did a jump from Garyu to Mighty Ruler after practicing a lot in Quick Match. Taking it slow and using Quick Match as practice mode as well, not rushing anywhere with Ranked.
That's one way to go about it. You can also just accept that you'll lose the rank a few times on your climb. It can be frustrating but it doesn't have to be the end of the world.
Exactly what I’ve been doing. I got my lee to flame ruler and took a break and started lars and got him to mighty ruler.
I'm currently Tekken King Asuka atm. I had a 10 win streak in Quick Matches, so I decided to jump back in ranked for a bit until I lost. Ended up with another 10 game win streak and flew through Kishin and Bushin lol. Let's hope Tekken King is difficult!
So in my experience playing tournaments offline and online, Tekken rank won’t really tell anyone how “good” or bad you are. In this game. What matters is what small goals you can achieve like ducking strings and punishing. If you know my character in and out it’s going to come down to reads and movement.
I agree totally, the best way to test your skills is in a bracket. But when you're just starting out its temping to use in game rank as a personal measure. either way tekken is badass and I love playing it so thats all that matters
With me working 60hr weeks I don’t have enough time to get beyond garyu
im a tenryu bryan main and already fighting blue and purples, im having fun tho and also feel proud that i fight toe to toe with blue ranks plus even if i get my ass beat i can still learn from higher ranks
I heard that blue ranks are where you start to fight actual competitive players.
Blue rank is another world really. Biggest changes ive seen come when you make to red, you see semi competent offence but a lot of bad patrerns. Making it too purples is just a red ranks refined. The upper blue ranks and beyond know a lot of matchups and will knowledge check you in many ways. It feels like the gap you experience as a new player when you first start playong these gods.
You misread the percentile for Garyu. The numbers shown in that chart are INVERSE percentiles so if 60% of players are garyu or above that means they're only better than about 40% of all players. You can double-check this by adding up the all percents from the first graph up to garyu and it comes out to 36.55%. That means a player isn't above average until they reach tenryu.
4:17 Honestly, it was that SAT analogy that made it click that it’s so arbitrary and hard to get a consensus. I mean hell, most people have realized that SAT scores are stupid. I was Saludatorian of my graduating HS class with a 1100, meanwhile one of my friends, who had a much lower GPA than me, had a 1500.
It’s the same for Tekken. I can be a Garyu all I want, but that won’t stop my brother in Warrior from being able to actively take sets from me in convincing fashion, simply due to an experience gap. In a general sense though, a Blue rank *should* be able to beat players far below their rank, but when you think of matchup knowledge, fundamentals, or even simply if this was their goody day of playing, a lot can really make a difference.
All of the yapping to say, just because you’re in a higher rank won’t auto equate to being better. Just make sure that you have a great grip on your character and the basics of the game, as you go higher incorporate more things into your arensal (Frametraps, optimal combos, good wall carry moves, etc). Above all though, *Dont treat this like a job, you’re meant to have fun while playing the game, and enjoy the process of learning more about the game.* With a good attitude, a lot of fun can be had in numerous different things, game or not.
Most universities are moving away from using standardized tests (ACT/SAT) because they are historically prejudiced, but also because they aren't that great at determining student readiness for college. Need proof? Look at Texas and all the schools no longer requiring SAT/ACT for admission. And its not just here -- its the whole USA.
These metrics are just a collection of SOME data about a player -- nothing more or less. And none of it will save you in a tournament -- if you do good, it's because you did good. Not because you are a certain color. Does that mean you're a "good" player? Who knows? How are you defining it? It all gets muddy. Also, good players lose. Just because you get demoted doesn't automatically mean you suck.
Apply that back out to college, you got hella people who made billions and dropped out or flat never went. If money is your measure, then college doesn't mean much. If you are talking about achievement in a scholastic field, or a high-skill field, then yeah, college is going to be the way to meet the people who know how to help (and by that point, talking about your SAT score is like talking about making honor roll in 1st grade -- no. one. cares.)
Woo! Tekken Emperor and a few Tekken Kings. Thanks for the input, brother. Always nice to hear the thoughts of people of all ranks.
Pretty cool analysis, I'm currently in Battle Ruler in T8 trying for Fujin. In Tekken 7, I started playing seriously instead of casually, got up to mid redsl ranks.
come back to us!!! your videos are quality and it feels like you’re gaining momentum, don’t stop now!!
I'm cheeks brother.
The emoji 😂
I can feel it 😭
The best way to get better at Tekken is to have your tekken community teach you. I have been playing with them a lot, got my ass beaten and learned a lot. We have a GoD in our community beat me, he isn't saying a word, nor communicate about what I should do, but for sure he's beating me with fundamentals like spacing, punishing. I would be lucky to land 2 or 3 combo juggles on him out of 10 matches. He's just untouchable, and now I learned how to punish properly and to be patient. Now I've been playing online tekken for 16 hours in, and now I'm in Fujin. Ranks just doesn't matter, your skill does.
Depends on region. Based on my anecdote here is my list for easier to harder regions, based on regions I can play with good connection. This only applies to ranks upto Mid Blue ranks btw.
Very Difficult: Middle East, Asia 1
Difficult: South Korea, Asia 3
Little Difficult: Asia 2, Japan
Phillipines players are really strong since they get to fight almost all Asian regions with decent connection.
Middle East region is now strong because it also includes Pakistan now. And it is harder for them to find matches. Asia 1 also sometimes includes Pakistan players, Nepal players, but mostly Indian players I think.
If I have to rate Europe region, maybe it is about one color inflated compared to Asia 2 server. But it is based on lounge and few European matches I had in Lounges or QMs. They noticably lack adaptability, punish, combo damage compared to Asia 2.
Pre-blue: you are mashing
Blue: you are learning
TK+: you are playing
That can't be true, because LTG and DSP are in Blue Ranks. I refuse to acknowledge them as above average or good considering all the times they keep losing
@@siopaoguy>LTG. BRUH.
System helps you to climb up to blue ranks, cause you need less then 50% winrate to move forward. Fujin is the equator - to move forward you need MORE then 51% winrate, so a lot of players stucks in Fujin rank. There you are going threw skill check with players who reached Raijin+ rank, so Standart mashing and easy strats just stop working with them. On blue ranks people start fully learning setups and sidestepping. But to move forward after blue ranks you need something really special like machup knowledges and advanced moving
@@siopaoguy You don't think that people that have been playing fighting games for like 20 years and play them for a living would be better than the average person? They're scrubs attitude wise but it would be batshit insane for them to be bad at the game.
@@siopaoguy everyone loses in this game
@@Megadeus0 I know but those 2 specifically are terrible people who refuse to learn and improve. They always complain and shift the blame onto others instead of being accountable of their actions...SO HOW THE HELL ARE THEY SOMEHOW IN BLUE RANKS IS UNFAIR!
I'd argue purple ranks are more like platinum/diamond. It takes a lot of work if you're new to tekken to go from red to purple. Gold is easy to get in basically any competitive game.
Love the production level of your video honestly! High spirit and fun commentary! Would love to see more!
But I feel like a deeper dive on the topic should've been done. No offense but to say "if you're orange you aren't very good" or "if you're blue then you're definitely good" is far too broad of a blanket statement. You'll see Xiaoyus and Yoshimitsus knowledge checking and flowcharting at Tekken King layer and not have very well invested fundamentals, then you'll see Jins and Shaheens playing their absolute hearts out with great fundies at the purple layer.
The game simply put is WAY too wide to just encompass everything under a "if you made it here, you're good" label, and it's not fair to anyone who hasn't made it there yet but clearly have the fundamentals to eventually make it. PLUS, let us not forget the fact that ranked point delivery is literally designed to PUSH everyone towards purple ranks. You don't even need a positive win rate to make it into purples, something like 40% will do it.
And I'm saying this as a guy who is currently pushing my 10th character (Jin) to Mighty Ruler and I can usually purple a character in 2-3 sessions. I still don't believe myself to be very good at the game despite that. ALSO, let's not forget that like-prowess matchmaking results in ranks meaning quite literally NOTHING because no matter your rank you'll always be matching with someone that is a similar prowess to you now and your rank literally is just a reflection of a positive/negative winrate at this point. (Trust me, at 10 characters learned, getting 200k prowess yellow rank players is wild, they play like they're on crack LOL)
But yeah, this isn't to be argumentative or anything. I just believe that attempting to pursue and reinforce the rank conversation is not good for the health of the Tekken community. The more people can separate their skill from their rank THE BETTER. Because it'll help people stick with the game for a longer time.
Honestly, great video, input and love your interaction in the video!!
Underrated take! Subscribed and looking forward to more stuff!! And no shame in Tenryu! I just finally reached purple and almost close to Blue with Shaheen and my only character I’ve played!! 😂😅
Opponents wise, I’ve ran into so many Asukas, Alisas, and Reinas!
Thank you! Also alisa is super interesting i never see her
The dap up with the wrong hand is killing me 7:45😭😭
Well researched, very well made video!! I've personally been thinking of the rank system as like a belt system in the martial arts, and my auto promote ranks for the other characters is my "true" belt. keeps me humble lol
"true belt rank" should be closer to your max rank IMO.
I’m very well done video, sir.
That fujin drop off is real. Feng a Nina player here and there’s no way I’m getting any higher. My hat is off to anybody who managed to get higher and to those sticking with the game regardless of rank because that’s also not easy to do with life. I had to take a break, since our gym’s Brazilian jiu-jitsu and Krav maga classes got a ton of new people in and they needed a little more assistant coaching from the more long-term guys, but I definitely want to go back since the new patch dropped.
You got my like when I heard the Innocent World song from DBZ BT3 - Keep up the good work
Achieved Raijin rank today as Asuka player. The struggle is real but knowing that I achieved that rank as Asuka (since she is not really in a good shape in terms of balance) makes me feel proud of myself. It's my first Tekken and I am playing on keyboard ^^'
Whenever this subject comes up peoples opinions are all over the place which is why i dont listen to that but instead the stats like you showed. People can say battle ruler is a middle rank all they like, the fact of the matter is that you're better than most of the playerbase by a huge margin at that point. Of course players can cheese ranks but that is the exception not the rule and they usually get hardstuck at the same rank for months
Nice videos man, honestly you’re doing some amazing work in the production and content of your videos.
The biggest factor i think is the character you play, because some characters carry so mutch and others dont.
Tekken 8 ranks mean absolutely nothing. People in Tekken King in this game couldn't get to MR in 7. ResidentSleeper
Well informative, researched and unbiased video. Subbed!!
To be honest, i just got in Cavalry rank and i challenged people that spam and uses special combat...like, they think thats skill and thats NOT fun to play against. For those that are high rank and are like this, you living in a dream
This was a great breakdown very well done!
Thank u!
I think another reason why the first rank for any given colour is a lot higher is that people will just stop playing ranked for a bit or change character due to fear of demoting back down to the previous tier
I’ve noticed that too, a lot of my friends hit red and then play another character or just play way less
very underrated channel, keep it up with the good work!
The one thing I will say that I feel is right. If you end up getting past Garyu (Lowest Red) then you have exceeded past the casual threshold for the most part.
I don't think that's right cuz when i was in red ranks i was getting an opponent very fast even faster than before red ranks but when i entered purple rank it was much harder to find an opponent but now at blue ranks i wait for more than a half of hour (these was before i quit the game in june cuz of the time i spent waiting to find players in ranked and if i was going to find one he's most likely going to be lower than purple rank and i won't get higher than 100points)
dont listen to this dude hes still struggling in red ranks, red ranks are like green ranks in T7. im sick of ppl that arent ACTUALLY good in the game trying to tell ppl they know all about ranks, but have never even reached tekken god let alone made it to blue ranks. STOP TAKING ADVICE FROM PPL THAT STILL IN RED OR PURPLE RANKS. AND ESCPIALLY DONT LISTEN TO TEKKEN KING PLAYERS THAT PLAY AZU OR VICTOR or any of the other overpwoered characters that they can cheese with...(feng,drag,alisa etc) these ppl are PRO MASHERS, and dont know shit, the second they pick a character like bryan or kaz they play like ass.
Sometimes it’s character dependent some characters are easier to rank up with(harder for new and lesser skilled players to figure out in a ft2 setting), coupled with the fact the game is new. I’m at Tekken emperor with multiple characters. And I can tell you there are players a lot of players at Tekken king with zero fundamentals and more gimmicks who would be in green ranks in T7 lol I was TGP in T7 and a lot of pros don’t even play ranked which is why you see then at lower ranks then you would expect.
This is true. I've seen Kishins and Bushins that are all flow-chart. They overwhelm you with their offense and don't rematch so you never get to adapt and beat them. You look at their stats and their defense is in the 40s. No fundamentals. Absolutely pathetic.
I see what you’re saying. There are certainly players in high ranks that play easier characters but I dont think playing a difficult character vs a simple one makes one a better player. As far as people abusing flow charts or maxed out offense I still would consider that highly skilled despite how unbalanced of a play-style that may be.
@@EnjinFGCscrub quote me but winning doesn't mean your good.
If you wanna play Claudio and high crush all my jabs sure feel free, doesn't make you good
I would say Kishin is where you can start finding objectively good players. Tho I disagree with the Tekken Emperor to God of Destruction bit. There are many people stuck between TK and TE, and of course GoD is just entirely another level. I'm currently TGS and I could not for the life of me get to GoD.
I hit fujin months ago, first fighting game i have actually "played". I have no clue what im doing. The notion that I am "good" is laughable. and it is extremely clear that almost none of my opponents have any clue whats happening either lol
I am a mighty ruler, but on a pub match, catch me practicing my tech and losing like damn fool for 20 games making people feel good all day 😂
As a hwoa player I can definitely say that he is probably the easiest character to climb rank with just for the simple fact that his flowchart can change so much to the point where my opponent could be ducking thinking their safe to be launched for a 50% combo like I love hwoa for the versatility he has and not being subjected to a neutral type of play style most characters have
Win on top of Wins, not only you are a Gachiakuta, Tekken enjoyer, but you're also a Soul Eater connoisseur ? I'll definitely stick to your channel. Keep up the good work Enjin ! 💪🏾🔥
Ur a goat
If we dont come up together, are we really coming up?
Im currently a flame ruler and I did end up beating a tekken king player on a quick match. So yes rank doesn't always determine your skill level. I just happen to have good fundamental knowledge of fighting games since i play other titles even tho tekken isn't my main. Different fighting games can certainly carry over your skills to other fighting genres.
I'm in blue rank and tbh even people in blue ranks are just knowledge checking with their characters the only difference between them and the lower ranks is they have a basic understanding of defense, will bait things instead of yolo mashing and know how to block basic strings to an extent, I definitely think blue ranks are pretty good, but I wouldn't call them (or even me) great at the game by any means.
Tekken and Smash melee are probably THE hardest fighting games you can play.
I feel like the skill gap between a Fujin and a G.O.D is higher than the one between a Beginner and a Fujin
It's the difference between starting with tekken 8 and starting from tekken 1. There are people in GoD with 20 years experience and people in fujin who picked up the game in January this year
Kishin Bryan here. Kishin and up you’ll find more players know what they’re doing. But “good Tekken players” are found offline, that’s just how it’s always been. Hope this helps, just have fun.
Started ranked at patch 1.05, I reached Fujin and demoted to Battle Ruler as a Jun main (feels good to be in the ranks that are considered as good)
I’m Tekken ultimate deity god omega rank and I can confirm this is 100% accurate
I can’t wait to try and rank up THIRTEEN more times !!!!
I've fought a bunch of Kazuyas, Kings, Bryans, and Victors on ranked
All this talk about when you’re considered “good” at tekken. When to be honest tekken doesn’t get hard until you play someone who can block all your strings. And in my experience that didn’t happen to me until I got to fujin. Fujin is where defensive becomes just as important as offensive. You can’t win if you can’t hit your opponent and they just punish you the whole match. Anybody struggling to get to blue, learn to block and punish.
I have people blocking all my strings and frame traps in tenryu, but i guess jins strings are just more well known maybe.
@@EnjinFGC most popular character so people know
Thing is there are multiple factors to consider. Ranked matches go by Tekken Prowess. A person will have it easier Gavin one character ranked up than the person who bloated their prowess by playing multiple characters. Second, some characters go completely unchecked all the way to middle purple ranks, like King feeds on people who can’t break throws consistently, and the bears are nothing but gimmicks that most players do not learn.
Fujin player here. I play every day against my friends who are in Kishin/Bushin ranks and we all agree on one thing: don't stress about online ranked. Honestly you'd think that around the blue ranks people would now be really good... but you will always run into some scrubby shit and dumb gimicks. Just the nature of ranked games
I think that it depends also on WHEN you play: if you fight in the evening or in the afternoon you 'll find different skills in players with the same rank. Usually the more late in the evening /night you play, the more strong opponent you can face also with lower ranks.
This could be also because players have also other things to do (it's called life...!) and can be online concerning with work, sport, or school...it seems to me that professional players usually go online in the evening and keep on fighting until late night.
Huh? 😂
The real reason the first rank of every colour is alot higher is because most people will achieve first red, first purple or first blue rank then call it a day. Probably jump to quick matches to hold onto their rank where they cant demote.
makes sense. getting to garyu was not quite as stressful as obtaining diamond in sf6
but I will say, red ranks being the most common ranks does remind me of platinum for sf6 because that was by far the most common rank there
so in sf6 terms id say garyu is platinum
I'm rank Bushin Asuka player and I think this video is pretty accurate. However imo you are not good until you pass Fujin or maybe when you hit Kishin. In Blue Rank it's different as you keep going up from here you will fight people that know one or more of these 3 skills; how to side step/walk and punish you, ducking correctly with ws launch punish, or knowing character's frames so they will know on block what's the +frame is to punish you back correctly. Like Fujin doesn't count cause some people can get here with easy characters. I say if you truly wanna learn how to play tekken then definitely climb the Blue Rank.
Hey bro, great video! Really well edited and put together! Keep up the great work 👍
Im a battle ruler currently and I just recently fought a Kuma who was flame ruler who only got there by spamming two or three extremely effective attacks. I won in the end but it really put into perspective how easy it was for someone to cheese their way to the top
Bushin Kazuya main here
Probably would be way beyond that if I stuck to Yoshi since Kaz is so bad in this game but it's funny to be generally better than the people you play, even if you lose
The biggest problem is that ranked matches are always best of 3 and there are so many one and doners that I don't get the necessary time to download all the cheese that gets thrown at me
Mandatory ft5 matches or get no points at all would put me beyond Tekken King easily.
I just got to might ruler with lars today and my lee is at flame ruler. Proud of them I play the game for fun and to show off my characters. I can remember my ranks associated with things i’ve learned and implemented I believe now I should start learning side steps as my game is virtually zero and have been honing my blocking skills. Edit: I am now at raijin with my lars.
Jin would definitely be the mfer to either dodge the high five or counter hit you in your ribs because of it
Edit: for the win rate chart, around the middle the Paul, Jin, Lee-ish section it's basically because people have had to study the matchup for them. Bryan on down to like Xiaoyu/Steve is difficulty of the characters, Jun Kazuya and Reina is because so many people play the character and you see them so much you just naturally adapted to fighting them because you memorized the knowledge checks, also Kazuya kinda weak right now.
great vid love the energy keep it up!
Thank you! Will do!
Reina is the sole reason i am still in red ranks. Everytime i am about to rank up i always get paired with Reina. Also the further you go the more often you match up with the same people
Tekken King is the new Fujin
Feeling validated as a Claudio and Shaheen player seeings those character usage statistics and being Kishin.
I’m trying to get Reina to Fujin, but my matches have been like tennis. Back and forth, win and lose, nuh uh to yuh huh 😂
that’s crazy bro i thought ur channel was way bigger. cooked with this vid frrr we need to run some sets 🙏🏽🤞🏽
I would love to! I should def stream an open lobby soon
@@EnjinFGC for sure man let me know 🔥
As tekken god, I can confirm, blue ranks know what they're supposed to be doing but always execute it very poorly or predictably. They also typically mash once they realise this. Above blue, each subsequent rank has huge skill gaps. A very difficult thing to describe but you basically haven't played tekken before this point. During my climb, I hated playing vs blue ranks because despite being completely free they didn't grant any points. The literal definition of a waste of time. And this is coming from someone who's nowhere near the top rank.
“Since I’m new to Tekken and I’m pretty sure everyone else here is new to Tekken…”
Me: **Chuckles in Tekken Veteran**
Calvary? Cavalry! :D
Calvary is the hill they crucified Jesus on!! ^_^
Im happy with my red rank. This is my first tekken. Heck its the first fighting game that i played for more than 3 hours. Currently at 80 hours (most of that is in customization). But yea, im chilling.
I feel like red is respectable at least for us beginners
@@EnjinFGC I agree
saying Fujin is plat is such a joke considering how hard tekken is as a game compared to getting plat in league of legends
you can get fujin within a month of playing tekken wyon about?
bruh forsen got fujin as a complete new player in a month, he is stuck in bronze in league
this makes sense but is also wrong.
Both games are skewed in ranking but for different reasons.
Tekken has cheating mechanics all over it still on PC, so crossplay and PC matches i just dont trust at all. Tekken 7 was flooded with bots and cheat engine stuff all over and nobody believed it until 8's launch and people realized how bad it still is because Tekken 8 cant actually catch cheaters in the act red handed and then disqualify them, Bamco and Tekken Project just sees who has used cheats after a match ended, and they only bother to study a player if theyre reported. the cheat methods for 7 and now in 8 are ridiculously busted. 8 also has the pump and dump issues of players leaving after a single match and never doing a best of 3 or 5 it is, im tired i forget. Ive also been convinced that PC players have found a way to look and pretend as a Playstation player or Xbox player with a fake PSN or Xbox profile all the time, Microsoft is so malleable in software and cheaters played on 360 all the time in shooters, PSN has gotten DDoS'd before, so none of this even matters.
League of Legends is a completely different animal. League has toxic chat, has toxic trolls, iron, bronze and silver players throw deliberately as trolling all the time. People drop out of matches and that still determines, you could end up playing a 3v5 and losing an unfair fight and it fully counts as an L.
Tekken and League are equally hard for their own unique reasons. But I would argue Tekken 8 is inflated with players who are high rank and shouldn't be based on true skill because of how abusive the unbalanced roster is.
I have buddies who were emperor on T7 and its unbalanced as hell now, im Fujin Lars, I kept dropping from the first purple rank in 7 a month before 8 came out.
Theres a lot of players who are just so aggressive against less aggressive players, and they steamroll them cuz of 8's new changes. But one you find a hole to poke and knowledge check the aggressive players, you see them panic and become very predictable like a 5 year old.
I was told ages ago on T7's launch and in arcades, many characters were notoriously busted in several different ways, Paul could easily do a death combo on you and his unblockable did like 60% hp. Lili was a nightmare in 7 in arcades and in launch.
It seems like Tekken starts out as vinegar in terms of balances and ends up as wine as time passes, and League is like that with each new champ and rework.
@@zer3f147 forsen played t7 before though
@@xAvengordepending on the character you choose
Honestly putting Kishin as Platinum is a bad take. Dude in Overwatch diamond is the top 18% of players. In tekken Kishin is like the top 8% of players or maybe even less. How can you say diamond starts in the top 8%? Diamond is top 18-20% so diamond starts at Fujin. Yellow is bronze/iron. Orange is silver. Red is gold. Purple is plat. Blue is diamond and Bushin is where the masters ranks start
That said purple/top of purple being good is probably about right
U know i keep running these three characters jin, hworang and reina. 😅
So true, i get less jin cause the matchmaking avoids giving me mirror matches but king reina and hworang are killing me
@@EnjinFGC I feel you brother
I literally went from Kishin back down to Fujin in less than an hour and now I feel like I screwed myself! LOL
I got to Tekken King with Alisa today! YAY!
Im a raijin and this game has been edging me as I’m so close to being a Kishin and omg this game is killing me
People need to focus on getting better instead of just getting a rank. I’ve seen Bushin Hwoarangs that only spam powercrushes and strings on console with 40 defense lol. That doesn’t fly on PC😭
I just started playing Tekken seriously and hit Dominator last night. Didnt realize i was so far down at the bottom lol
I worked so hard to get Bryan to Fujin+ and took a break from him to decompress. I no joke got both Raven and Feng into Ruler/Fujin from yellow within 2hrs each…while drunk!!! I can’t make this up, went into ranked thinkn I’d have a tough time especially not being sober and both characters surpassed my main Bryan in a lil over an hour of playing them. Mind you I barely know combos and setups with them, they’re so much better overall especially in heat. Characters definitely water down a player’s rank in this game, many characters carry heavily.
Bro I'd love to watch your ranked and how you grow as a player, would be awesome
love fighting games, i hit diamond in SF6, mighty ruler in tekken 8 rn( looking for atleast blue), and demi god in MK
hot take: a bushin king is about as good as a warrior steve player
I'm very satisfied with how I'm doing given this is my first ever tekken. Just made it to fujin with asuka
God of destruction Paul here, I like watching videos about this because I play fighting games but I am new to Tekken lol
You‘re new and GoD ? Something dosent add up
@@OroJacksn I’m not new to fighting games, just Tekken. The concept of frames, neutral, etc aren’t new to me LMAO.
@@devindeford4386 i dont think you can reach this rank by just being good at other fighting games.
There is so much more to it.
Im not even close to God of destruction but i dont think i‘ll ever reach if i dont know every match up.
So yeah as a „ new player“ i dont think its possible.
@@OroJacksn yes you can lmao. You underestimate transferable skills from different games.
I know what Tekken is but never played it a competitive level, so the idea I wouldnt be able to reach a certain rank is crazy lol
@@devindeford4386 well then post your steam name or ps whatever u play and lets hop in a match
I don’t buy ranks at all. I’m battle ruler and just SLAUGHTERED a god of destruction 6 rounds to 0. Rank is pretty much entirely match up luck and time 😂
When they talk about "advanced" ranks, theyre talking about Fujin and above, NOT Purple ranks
In the reddit post they stated that purple and above are considered as advanced players. I was just going of their categorization
Not even just the rank that matters it’s also the character I’m much more scared of a blue kaz then and blue victor
Dude considers blue ranks to be like plat in sf😂😂
Also, Tekken prowess matters. I reached Tekken king, which boosted me from 190k prowess to 230k.
Then I got deranked to kishin, but still 229k ish....so as the matchmaking pairs you with same tekken prowess I was fighting only people that reached Tekken king at least once. So ranking back to bushin the second time was way harder than reaching it the first time. So now I'm like bushin 2.0😅