Great video! Very informative. I'm still running a New Holland 268 Hayliner square baler, built in 1963. It may look old but it rarely misses a knot after all these years.
Just one correction, Brian; New Holland was putting hydraulic bale density systems on the 77's in un the late 1940's and early 1950's. I know, we had one. It was not something that was first introduced on the 326's. I currently run a 283 and although it has the springs the "Hydroformatic" system was an option on that model, too. That leads me to believe the hydraulic systems were available continuously from the 77's until today.
I just bought a NH 273 from a farmer who retired. It used to have a kicker, now just has the mount at the flywheel. I ran it with my B2410 and baled 8 bales of wet grass just to test it out. It worked, the bales are now stewing behind the barn for making a good compost pile. It doesn't take much HP to run these, but it does take a heavy tractor to put up with the plunger!
Thanks for the history lesson. It would have been nice to say a little more about the kinds of bales each baler can make. Growing up in California, the standard small bale was a high-compression three-wire bale that typically ran 16 bales to a ton. When we moved to Utah, I found most bales were tied with twine and weighed less than half as much. They were, however, roughly the same size.
Actually the 326 also punched 93 strokes/minute. The 320 that preceded it ran I believe 106 and it literally shook itself apart so they geared down the 326 and newer balers. The 316 I believe was 79 strokes/minute.
If you wanted to a "history" of NH square balers you should have gone back to the Hayliner 68 of the 1950's I still see some of them out there baling to this very day.
If memory serves me.. Dad bought a 273 Maybe the number was 279? in the 70's. It is a long time ago... It has a complicated assembly of U-joints, an early work around to a CV joint. In the first year we made some 10,000bales and it missed less than 10 and SOME were from the belt thrower 'burning' through the twine on the bales if it was thin hay when the bale was just at the belts. And, the lateral movement of the hay was by a mechanism similar to a pantograph/ swing arm thing
Very good video New Holland have always been number 1 and still are today,I have and still do own several of them and they all work flawlessly of course like anything they do need some attension sometime,but they are designed for easy maintainance I hope they can keep up the good work.
We ran a Case, built by Hesston baler when I was young, late 90s early 00s. I always thought the online design better. That said I have no experience with a NH baler.
All these comments and no mention of the baler that supported our family for years? The NH Compact 65 that thing was a work horse as we averaged over 20,000 bales a year with a single Ford 3,000 tractor. This was back in the late 60's and 70's. To complete the ensemble we had a NH side delivery rake.
New Holland The BC5050 baler offers traditional farm operations a low power requirement and lighter weight baler that’s a good match for tractors with as little as 35 horsepower. The 65-inch SuperSweep™ pickup with four tine bars cleanly gathers the crop while the Flow-Action™ feeding system and 79 plunger strokes per minute provide capacity well suited to smaller-acreage operations. Available with twine tying only
NH 273 balers were optioned with PTO engines. They were 17 HP engines. It's not HP you need, but ballast up front. That plunger can really move the tractor around.
That's hardly the history of NH square balers. You talked about balers made in the 80's and later. I thought this would be about the balers from the 40's and 50's.
I liked his presentation, 'learned a lot. You don't need presence if you came here to learn. If you wanted entertainment, I guess you may have a point.
Interesting: the NH 575 the "Cadillac among balers" was only catching up with the Welger AP71 and AP73, the "Mercedes among balers" built more than a decade earlier in Europe. This "flow action" intake of the 326 was utter rubbish, pick up a fencepost and it will be totalled: Because NH hung on to that design, they lost much of the European market.
Hi. Thank you for this . I am from Africa and we have a small square baler. Please advise a WhatsApp number or email address. I need to find spares for this baler
Great video! Very informative. I'm still running a New Holland 268 Hayliner square baler, built in 1963. It may look old but it rarely misses a knot after all these years.
@Paul Maxwell - Your 268 will probably out last these. I can't imagine plunging 93 strokes/min. or how you could keep it fed.
You guys should post a video on what to look for when buying a used baler
Just one correction, Brian; New Holland was putting hydraulic bale density systems on the 77's in un the late 1940's and early 1950's. I know, we had one. It was not something that was first introduced on the 326's. I currently run a 283 and although it has the springs the "Hydroformatic" system was an option on that model, too. That leads me to believe the hydraulic systems were available continuously from the 77's until today.
I just bought a NH 273 from a farmer who retired. It used to have a kicker, now just has the mount at the flywheel. I ran it with my B2410 and baled 8 bales of wet grass just to test it out. It worked, the bales are now stewing behind the barn for making a good compost pile. It doesn't take much HP to run these, but it does take a heavy tractor to put up with the plunger!
Thanks for the history lesson. It would have been nice to say a little more about the kinds of bales each baler can make. Growing up in California, the standard small bale was a high-compression three-wire bale that typically ran 16 bales to a ton. When we moved to Utah, I found most bales were tied with twine and weighed less than half as much. They were, however, roughly the same size.
I've put many thousands of bales through those 575 balers and they are a great baler.
loved it. I spent many hot afternoons on wagons looking at the back of them. great presentation.
I don't bale, but this was great and educational. Thanks for the rundown and information.
In the 1950s i put a mountain of hay through a NH super 77 baler . good machine , i took care of it , it did the job !
Actually the 326 also punched 93 strokes/minute. The 320 that preceded it ran I believe 106 and it literally shook itself apart so they geared down the 326 and newer balers. The 316 I believe was 79 strokes/minute.
I like seeing other people from Messick's showcase their knowledge on the channel.
Dont forget the old 370 to 378 series and the hay liner 2 series
Super 68! She wouldn't win a beauty contest, but certainly bales like a queen!
If you wanted to a "history" of NH square balers you should have gone back to the Hayliner 68 of the 1950's I still see some of them out there baling to this very day.
Yea, these are what we had.
If memory serves me.. Dad bought a 273 Maybe the number was 279? in the 70's.
It is a long time ago...
It has a complicated assembly of U-joints, an early work around to a CV joint.
In the first year we made some 10,000bales and it missed less than 10 and SOME were from the belt thrower 'burning' through the twine on the bales if it was thin hay when the bale was just at the belts.
And, the lateral movement of the hay was by a mechanism similar to a pantograph/ swing arm thing
I am still using a NH 269 that my grandpa bought brand new.
Kyle Hackbarth , that’s ok . I’m still using a 273 .
Great video Bryan! This style video was very informative!
Very helpful... but you're making my 315 seem like a real antique!
Great video. Thanks Bryan!
Excellent presentation, Bryan. Very very informative and well done.
what a great video the differences of the balers
EXCELLENT VIDEO!
Awesome Haytools shipped to 170 Countries Worldwide !! Very Durable productive units from NH !!
Very good video New Holland have always been number 1 and still are today,I have and still do own several of them and they all work flawlessly of course like anything they do need some attension sometime,but they are designed for easy maintainance I hope they can keep up the good work.
NH326 also features a blue Ford oval!!
nfavor why are you surprised Ford was absorbed by Case New Holland Global in the 80s
So does the later model 311 balers have the Ford emblem.
We ran a Case, built by Hesston baler when I was young, late 90s early 00s. I always thought the online design better. That said I have no experience with a NH baler.
Great video, very informative, thanks Bryan!
I wanted to see these run!good job though
You wouldn’t see a baler in Europe with the flywheel exposed health and safety would get excited with it
Awesome video, do haybines next please..
I’d like to see you cover a New Holland Model 76 baler.
this is a great video.
All these comments and no mention of the baler that supported our family for years? The NH Compact 65 that thing was a work horse as we averaged over 20,000 bales a year with a single Ford 3,000 tractor. This was back in the late 60's and 70's. To complete the ensemble we had a NH side delivery rake.
326 doesn’t have a belt for the pickup. Also 93 strokes/min
Can we get a version of this video for John Deere's small square balers?
I was going to ask the same. I have an ancient one that I know very little about.
Seems to me New Holland incorporated in it's latest balers similar technologies in the feed chamber similar to John Deere's.
Great video!!!
Gee I was hoping to find out about my Super 66 and why you see Super 66's but never any 66's?
Did 1100 bales with my 271 this year.
I was reared with new holland small square balers. Never in the same league as welger the leader all round
285 hay liner had hyd tension 25 yrs before the 5070
NICE VIDEO. New Holland used to make a kicker, what happened to them?
Do they make smaller Bailers for 38-50 hp tractors.
Old ones are your best bet
Most of the old square balers work well with 40 - 50 hp
New Holland The BC5050 baler offers traditional farm operations a low power
requirement and lighter weight baler that’s a good match for
tractors with as little as 35 horsepower. The 65-inch SuperSweep™
pickup with four tine bars cleanly gathers the crop while the
Flow-Action™ feeding system and 79 plunger strokes per minute
provide capacity well suited to smaller-acreage operations.
Available with twine tying only
NH 273 balers were optioned with PTO engines. They were 17 HP engines. It's not HP you need, but ballast up front. That plunger can really move the tractor around.
That's hardly the history of NH square balers. You talked about balers made in the 80's and later. I thought this would be about the balers from the 40's and 50's.
I have an s69 with hydraulic density with a gauge on the front. Seems after market to me
It looks like someone is attempting to take over Neal's channel.
Where’s Neal ? And who is this knock off guy ???
He does all the ag stuff.
Where's Neil?
He sounds Amish
Where's Neal
who the heck is this guy? no presence.
Simple Tek Neil’s brother and partner in business
Cousin
I liked his presentation, 'learned a lot. You don't need presence if you came here to learn. If you wanted entertainment, I guess you may have a point.
Interesting: the NH 575 the "Cadillac among balers" was only catching up with the Welger AP71 and AP73, the "Mercedes among balers" built more than a decade earlier in Europe.
This "flow action" intake of the 326 was utter rubbish, pick up a fencepost and it will be totalled: Because NH hung on to that design, they lost much of the European market.
history????????? i use a 69
Snoozefest. Where’s Neil?
Hi. Thank you for this . I am from Africa and we have a small square baler. Please advise a WhatsApp number or email address. I need to find spares for this baler
Just Google messicks equipment. They have a very good website for parts lookup