My youth was spent pulling a new holland baler behind a Massey 165. I loved that tractor and my uncle still has it. He had three daughters and so I would spend all of my time helping him farm because my dad didn't have any tractors. He lived down the road from me and from the time I was about 12 I would ride my minibike there and help him farm all day. As I got older I got to drive the Ford 9700 and plough and disc and cultivate. My uncle is still here and 40 years later I am still helping him farm a bit when I can. I am going to his place today actually to get my deer stands set up for bow season that starts next month. What great memories you brought up, Tim. I think the kids of today are getting a disservice not having to bale square bales of hay. The old barns were better equipped for it, and the round bales seem like a fair bit of wastage.
A knotter story on an old JD 24T baler... Never, ever, EVER remove a link from the roller chain that drives an old knotter! Im my case, the chain was loose, and I figured it wouldn't hurt to remove a link to tighten it up. Giant mistake! That shortened chain completely changed the timing of the entire knotter mechanism. It seemed to work, right up until when the knotter tripped to start tying a bale and shot the twine needles up into the bale chamber JUST as the plunger was coming forward to compress the next bale flake! Luckily the baler had a safety mechanism that lifts some plunger stops up as the needles come up. These caught the plunger, which immediately stopped by breaking the shear bolt on the flywheel that drives the plunger. Took a while, and some knowledge gained from an old JD mechanic, to realize my mistake and correct it. Life lesson learned!
Seems like I remember something like that happened on a old new Holland bailer we ran when I was a kid. But pretty sure ours snapped the needles off in the process.
Oohhh the memories of blistered hands and sweaty brows from putting up hay on my Uncle's dairy farm when I was a young teen. Thousands of bales into the loft. The shower at the end of the day always felt good. We pulled a wagon behind the baler and stacked the bales on it. The wagon was hauled to the barn and the bales were unloaded onto an escalator and moved up to the loft where we stacked the bales. Eventually they purchased a baler with a thrower that tossed the bales onto a wagon with high steel cage walls.
Tim, for future reference, one of the most critical adjustments on the knotter is the location of the twine needles as the come up though the bale chute into the knotter frame. I owned a custom baling business as a teenager and custom baled hay for years. I ran a JD 336. The needles need to just barely rub the knotter frame during the tying cycle. This assures the twine is placed squarely in the twine disc notches before they rotate. If the twine misses the notches in the twine discs the billhooks will pull the twine away from the disc assembly thus creating a “dropped” knot (as we used to say). It’s very frustrating when a customer sees all these busted bales laying around in his field. Creates a lot of extra work for the crew too. An old timer taught me this trick and he cussed me out when I explained that the operator’s manual doesn’t describe the needle adjustment that way. He said, “Do you want to follow that manual or do you want your knots to tie every time?” We were having a though time getting through the season so I tried it. Fixed it immediately! Never had to worry about it again. Experience trumps technical manuals a fair share of the time. As a Hoosier farm boy growing up in the ‘60s I appreciate your videos and insight. I own a 1025R too. Love it! Blessings my friend!
I am a retired city slicker. I never knew how bales were made. The amount of knowledge, problem solving skills and complex dangerous machinery farmers have is staggering. You have my respect!
Thanks Jack! Glad you are getting to see the problem solving skills aspect. This is the most amazing part in my opinion. Farmers are typically very similar to mechanical engineers. Often more capable due to the wide variety of experiences they encounter. I’m convinced that my dad could make ANYTHING work!
@@TractorTimewithTim I am a retired physician. I have always said. Farmers make the best patients. They could solve most problems on their own. I love your channel too! What farmers do should be required education!!!!
Ah, memories... Spent several summers of my Colorado youth (mid/late 70s) "custom" haying upland hay fields (AKA low yield non irrigated) with a JD 1020, a JD sickle bar mower, a JD 3-pt roll bar rake, and a JD 24T small square baler. 'Course back then, there was no such thing as a big square baler, and I do not recall round balers even being a thing yet.
Memories, not sure good of all the square bales I tossed on our farm from our baler. Wanted to mention when I was a real small kid, the first baler I saw was one that used wire not string. Had seats on the back for someone to twist the wire in each bale. Finally got my 2025R to help me with chores in my older years. No farming any more but living on the old homestead. Your videos have really helped in setting up and using my tractor, a lot of good advice.
Howdy. In NY we call them needles that bring the string up to be tied by the knotter. We also called the sections of hay in the bale a wafer. Grew up on a dairy farm south of Syracuse. Tractor size for baling is about horsepower and weight. We had a hydraulic kicker on out JD baler and pulled a wagon around. We used a JD4020 and on hills you would not want anything smaller with a full wagon of hay. Great video.
In the late 1950's we had a John Deere 116 baler. The ram went from side to side which caused the baler to rock that way. This eliminated the surging feeling on the tractor. The problem was that the bales came out the side and had to turn to fall on the ground. In general, round balers are for persons that feed what they grow. Wrapped bales are sometimes left in the field until they are needed. Our use of square bales was because we sold the hay which required that it be stacked on trucks. Stacks waiting on the road side for pick up often resulted in some of the bales being stolen. While we later went to 3 wire tied bales that could often weigh 300 pounds or more but this still happened. The later development of the really large bales seemed to solve this issue but their use was limited to commercial feed lots. Sales of hay for horse owners seemed to be best served by smaller 2 wire bales.
Yep. Old tractors lacked horsepower but had multi-cylinder engines with flat torque curves to pull you through those loaded conditions. The weight of those large frame tractors was important so that the implement did not push the tractor around.
On the farm I use to work on we bailed square with a John Deere 1070. It had about 30hp but was quite bigger. It still got thrown around by the plunger. At the end of the day you could still feel it while sitting or standing. Like being on a boat, then getting on land.
This video brought back a lot of memories of being on the farm. I think we had a New Idea or a New Holland. I can't remember. One think I do remember is trying to figure out how those knotters worked. I thought to myself that whoever came up with designing those knotters was someone pretty darn sharp. Thanks for sharing a day on the farm.
A very interesting thing about the knotters on a New Holland baler is that a brand new Hayliner uses the same knotter technology as the first models from decades ago.
Cool to watch! I would imagine the only issue would be pulling a hill or being pushed down one. With all the hills around our farm we use big tractors for safety.
Master safety cutch on my #12 Massey small square baler is set at 14 HP for baler , tractor size depends on if pulling a hay rack. And size of hills being negotiated!
I enjoyed visiting Mat - that is cool to small bail - many a person with a hose and need to feed it may not have anything but a pickup. Round bails are pain due to weight once home. Depends on the customer and their needs. Big operations need big and have big to tote and distribute. Thanks !
I always wondered if it would work. Thanks for showing it! I knew it had enough hp, just was wondering about the weight. Now to hook up a wagon full of hay bales as well. Ha!
Brings back memories! Helping our neighbors and uncle and cousins standing on the hay wagon stacking behind that chute stacking bales. Fun times in the middle of summer! Built character
I bale hay with an old 8n ford pulling a new holland 271. It does good, when we first got the baler going we hooked it to a yanmar 1550 tractor that was 15hp on the engine and it baled but we didn't want to use it on hills mainly from a weight perspective.
Thank you Thank you Thank you. This is the BIGGEST question I had for my 1025R. I wouldn't even combine the wind rows. Then it wouldn't be picking up as much and I could go faster. I only have a few acres and a few animals so I might be on the hunt for a old used square baler now. Again, many Thanks TTWT.
There are several farmers in our area that do the square bales. In seeing the fields with those bales, it brings me back to my younger days. I never worked on a hauling crew due to my size. I always dreamed of me doing that. I bet you may still be shaking from that experience.
Back in my farming days, everyone used John Deere balers around me- just like this. They typically used a utility tractor to pull it, and most had the kicker on the back. I remember the one dairy farmer used his (then) new 2955 to bale with- because it had the cab with A/C! Those were in the 70 hp range, like a 5075E, but larger. Nice tractors. My neighbor growing up baled with a small Ford utility tractor- which he also plowed with! (they did have bigger tractors) The one who didn't use a kicker had a wire tie model, and the 1/4 turn chute. He had a New Holland Stackcruiser to pick them up. Like you said, Tim- he packed those things as tight as he could. They were for sale to the horse tracks, who paid by the ton- so the more tonnage you could put on the truck... Busted my butt a few summers stacking those ones. He pulled his with a 120hp JD cab tractor (not sure of model). When stopped, it would rock the tractor back and forth, just like Johnny.
We had one of those JD balers bought new back then. More cuss words and crescent wrenches were beat on those knotters than any other piece of equipment on the farm. It seems like when you are haying that you are only ever six hours away from a rainstorm spoiling the hay and the knotters get finicky because they sense the change in atmospheric pressure. Most often we baled with an Oliver 50HP 880 but after that went down stripping transmission gears while picking corn for a neighbor we used the 35HP Ferguson to fill in on baling duty (it surged/"lunged" too). You might get a 20HP Ford 8N to run the baler since you had the JD 1025R, but we only had the bigger Fergusons.
The biggest issue with the 8n for baling, as with so many other tractors, is the lack of a live PTO to keep the baler rocking but stop forward motion in varying windrows.
A large tractor would be rocked also when sitting still but once moving you wouldn’t feel it. Just could hear the engine in rhythm with the baler. We would hook a hay wagon behind the baler and another person would load the wagon on the go.
WOWWWIEEE WOW!!! I would have never of dreamed about a 1025R would ever of pulled & worked a standard size bailer! Iam thouroughly impressed to say the least! It sure is a funny looking pair-----tiny john deere tractor pulls a standard size square baill bailer!!! If you were doing this all the time, i would be keeping an eye on the frame of the 1025R as well as the tranny/axle housing components for st4ess fractures!!! Perhaps i worry to much about these little, i dunno We had a 235 Massey Fergison tractor that we used on our JD 336 & 337 john deere bailers. Good job Tim. Take care & God bless!!!
Great video Christy with drone shots, close ups, and the failures. Good combination with the narration over the video to describe what is happening. And I liked trying a 1025 on a 'real farm equipment' bailer
We use a competitive 38hp tractor and a late 50s model John Deere 14T baler with great success (550 bales annually) twine string only. Single windrows are necessary in 3 ton / acre hay with a much narrower pickup attachment on the older baler. Winter tune up is available at the JD dealership if required at reasonable prices. Consistent volume of hay and proper bale chamber tension is essential. Remove all hay from baler before storage and we coat all internal wear surfaces with light oil or diesel. Saves a lot of headaches.
I love these episodes with Matt doing hay I worked a hay farm as a teenager a lot of work but it was a good group of guys and did we have fun Johnny pulled that baler pretty good And Tim looked like he was having fun makes me wish I had hay to bale great video
Thanks for the video! We have 10 acres that we will be moving to hay and I’ve been planning the equipment we would need to do so, glad to hear it can be done with something so small
Oh the memories! Bucking hay in July. What hot, dusty, itchy work that was. And to this day, I still don't understand how that dang knotter works! LOL! I would tend to believe that using that size of a tractor for long day, long term bailing would be good. A bigger tractor means that the engine is working nearly as hard and the weight of the tractor would be able to handle the vibrations and pounding the type of bailler they make.
Great video I’m thinking about getting one of these square balers in the spring. I thought the 2038r would run it but I am surprised that the 1025r did
we have a same baler but from the Company Welger its a AP42 with bale cannon its just amazing so simple of a machine :D and its normal when at the first past the Knotter isnt working its kinda adjusting since its just running once a year so that normal and if its stop knotting at mid through check the twine if its empty but normaly youre good to go
Reminds me of the days when I used to walk behind the trailer or truck tossing those bales up to the stackers. It took a little while before I could get them up high enough so they didn't have to practically fall off grabbing them. Then there were the snakes and the mice in the bales that were so much fun to have pop up in your face. I guess you've proved that in a pinch the 1 series will do some farm work after all. Good job. Hay elevators were the most fun. :)
I've ran my 4115 on a new holland 68 and it does well for small, tight areas I need to bale, plus I've also cut hay with a new holland 479 haybine on 4 acres and it handled it just fine in low range and a steady feed of hay. I'm happy that you are seeing what these little tractors can do.
Brings back memories when I was a kid. We baked with a Mcormick WD-9 and a case wire tie baker with a wisconsin motor. Dad always baled as heavy as possible so as to save wire. We also baked commercially.
I was impressed, I wouldn't have thought a 1025 would handle that bailer so well. I suspect the 2038 would be marginally better, but I was surprised how well the 1025 did.
25 horse or 38 horse 38 would be much faster. I bailed many a bale with a j d B when I was teenager. B had I think 28 h p but weighs 4500 pounds. I still have the tractor I used from the early 60 s. I'm old now but the B still runs good.
Incredible! We had the same baler with a kicker, hooked to a JD 7400 and you could feel the plunger on a tractor that size as well. Sweet setup for a hobby farm
Was about to comment something similar. On a tractor at the 4000 kg mark and a trailer behind, if still yanks it and standing still it's noticeable. And that is a "small" square baler, Welger AP 41, bale canal is 30x40 cm only, baler weights just under 1000 kg by itself (the top of the line Lely Welger AP830 nowadays is around 2000 kg).
Our square bailer used wire. If something else on the farm needed fixed dad would say "go get a piece of bailing wire". So glad when we went to the Hesston stacker. Our round bailer used twine.
We used to get that surge on a gear drive 44 hp tractor that weighed in at 6,000+ lbs with ballast. The square balers can really shake you when they get moving.
Cool to see you try this, but growing up I was the guy in the haymound, not as much fun as you think it might be.Kind of bringing back a lot of memories, and I'm 40 we had a new Holland square baler and 1085 Massey pulling it, didn't need to work out after doing hay for a week or 2👍
I've always heard that knotters were tempermental on about all the brands back then, but once they were working right, you could get lots of bales from them.
Nice video. A little correction in your comment. The hay is compressed in the bale chamber. Also it the needles go through the hay they break. The needles go through slots in the plunger. Keep it up.
Tim that lunging as you called it is what I grew up calling the “baler stroke”. And as I’ve said before I used to run a Allis-Chalmers 6060 and trust me I still felt that baler stroke on it. This was a great video.
@@TractorTimewithTim I always look forward to new videos from you. It reminds me that I miss being on a tractor from daylight till dark. And some times working till 3 or 4 in the morning. And I love the relationship that you have with your wife. The two of you remind me a lot of me and my wife. And I like that you are not bias when it comes to the color of tractors.
Watched your video very good. By the there are slots in the plunger that protect the needles when tying .If the r in into the hay, usually breaking the. Wwdles
When I was a kid, my Dad had a 24T with a Wisconsin air cooled engine mounted on it. If it ate a large gulp of hay, you could hear it a mile away straining but it never failed. You don't need a 120 horsepower tractor to run a small square baler. If the knotter doesn't work initially, it may be from too liberal greasing of the knotter. They only need a bit to stay alive. Better to grease more often than a large goop coming out and causing the twine to slip in the knotting process. In my lifetime, I have bales thousands and thousands of square bales. So much so, I switched to round bales.
This brings back suppressed memories from my younger days growing up. Dad had horses so we always seemed to have square bails. Bailing wasn't so bad but the loading and stacking in the SE Tennessee heat and humidity it was brutal. Let's not forget the times when a snake would get bailed. I still hate horses to this day, if it doesn't have a throttle I'm not interested. This would've been a good Halloween video. lol
I baled hay as a teenager in Central IN. Our heat and humidity isn't much different than TN. It is a tough task no matter where one is even with tractors. At a penny and a half a bale, one didn't get rich for sure, but I got the extra half penny for loading behind the baler. The guys unloading and in the mow only got a penny. They could have offered me a quarter a bale to go up in the mow and I would have stayed on the wagon! Lol. My best day was loading 72 bales every 15 minutes. That was a perfect field...thick hay, flat as a pool table and the baler performed flawlessly. There were days I didn't get 200 bales all day due to breakdowns. One day I made zip because the baler was new and hadn't been timed properly at the dealer, but I enjoyed hanging out with my boss even if I wasn't making any money. About 10 years ago, a farmer friend of mine was baling about 10,000 bales of straw a year and offering $10 an hour. He couldn't beg, borrow or steal enough help to get the job done. Granted, I heard horror stories from more than one source how ridiculous his expectations were, i.e. 2 breaks during a 10-14 hour day, but for 10 bucks an hour, I'd have worn two canteens of water and managed. My friend just gave up growing wheat all together and is now strictly corn and soybeans. He still can't find enough help. Lol
@@terrycastor8299 And it didn't kill us. I'd still rather be handling hay than sitting around playing video games. Everyone in the hay field was too tired to go shoot up the school.
@@turdferguson5300 , you're absolutely correct! Hard work never hurt anyone and it surely makes one appreciate wages for a job well done. It kept me in better shape than I realized too.
When I saw the thumbnail, I guessed that bailer was a JD 327. My dad bought one brand new in 1981. He had a John Deere 950 tractor he'd bought new in 1977 or '78 that pulled it. It was 27hp. After multiple troubles trying to hire out to have the hay done, he finally invested in a whole set of brand new hay equipment in summer of '81. That 327 would bail anything. It was the smallest of the series. I think there was a 337, 347 and 357 and this series may have been first produced around 1980. Maybe very late 1970's. The only trouble dad had was at least once a year during the bailing of the field, that thing would plug up in real heavy stuff and he'd break the shear pin on the flywheel. We figure it only did that because it was the smallest of the series. But it was such a great bailer and so reliable. Dad started to pull it with a 50 horse Allis-Chalmers 5050 in 1984 or so. Sold it in 2002 and only because he quit raising cattle and didn't need to cut hay anymore. Seeing this brings back great memories!
Very enjoyable video for me. Thank you for explaining and showing how the baler works. As others have said here, I also helped pick up bales in a hay field, but never knew exactly how everything worked. My Dad always preferred 40 -50 pound bales (me too)!
I'm not sure I would want to try that in hill country, but it seems to have worked well on relatively flat ground. We used to bale with a 245 MF and it would get pushed around by the baler on hills. In later years we moved up to a 90 HP Case and it didn't give any ground to the baler.
If U read up on it john deer says not to run a square bailer behind a sub compact tractor Bc the forward momentum of the plunger rocks the tractor and takes momentum from the plunger.
Yep, the general rule of thumb is that HP buys speed, but if your willing to go slow, it doesn't take as much as you might think. Of course that's the whole purpose of Tim's website, showing what these little tractors can do. He does a good job of it.
My grandfather would have me on the old dump rake behind the tractor raking up all the gatherings that the baler didn't ;pick up and then we'd go back and bale that!
I grew up with small squares. We were wire tied bales, machine stacked 8 tiers then hand stacked 7 on top of that plus in the leans. Me and my brothers were lean and mean come the end of the summer.
I've baled with 348 Small balers for 25 years. You need a bigger tractor. It's not the horsepower, it's the weight of the tractor. All that rocking of the tractor is energy taken away from the compression of the bale. You get much tighter, cleaner bales and fewer missed ties when you have a tractor with more mass. The larger tractor can also help keep that flywheel at its optimum RPM. We bale straw with a 7820. It's HP could wring the PTO off, but with it's mass, bale quality is top notch!
Neat video! We ran our 14T with our Mahindra 32hp hydrostatic transmission for a season or two then decided we could afford a good used MF 265 we found at an auction. We figured Breaking the compacts transmission would’ve costed more than the whole other tractor 4 years ago.
Most small compact tractors may not have a lot of weight or pulling abilities but the power out put from a lot of compact tractors is plenty for quiet a few pto driven implements.
PERFECT! This is the one outstanding issue I am trying to resolve. I am turning 3 1/2-4 acres into hay fields now that we are down to 1 horse, and my Kubota B2410 will handle a disc mower and tedder, but wondering if it will pull and power a 24T or 327 baler. Now I know, if the 1025R which has similar HP out of the PTO as my Bota, and the Bota weighing a bit more, now seeing is believing, it will. This will save me THOUSANDS of $$$$$ by not needing to buy a second tractor, or trying to find one of those small Italian jobs made for Compacts.
Personally, I make hay for a living. Some round bales, but mostly small squares. The first few bales never tie correctly. Another thing I’ve done is put a platform in the back of the baler so that someone can ride along to make those adjustments in the beginning.
Who ever I bought mine from must have known how to tune them well. I have basically that same baler. I have had two broken bakes in about 2000. Never any issues starting. I do leave the last bale in it though. Probably corrodes it a bit more, but the grass should be pretty dry anyway. That suggests it is all about adjustment unless I just got lucky with one that was made better.
My thoughts are yes it would work on flat ground but you're at a definite weight disadvantage so any kind of hilly ground will get sketchy fast with that little 1025r. I'd go up to the next size or 2 larger for better weight control. Also. If you have a cruise control that may help. So every lunge from the bailer doesn't move your foot on the hydrostatic foot pedals. In the old days you picked an appropriate gear and clutched it as needed if the windrow got thick and the bailer needed to catch up, or down or upshift as needed.
I was thinking 40-50 hp tractor would be more ideal minimum but very impressed how the 1025 handled the job. Comes more to your terrain and how fast you want to go to how much tractor one needs in this application. Still hate them knotters and processing 30-60 thousand bales per yr....round balers when gods gift hahaha
I think that would be good for the smaller homesteaders. This way they could have a small field for hay and another for pasture for the animals to graze in.
Perfect timing as I've been working through the idea of doing this! I've got to deal with hills so I'm going 3049R or MF 2605. Horse power isn't my worry it's weigh of the baler on the hills. Also do want enough power for a decent sized dicsbine 3 point or maybe a older sickle bar haybine. Looked into a 1840 after your show video and again weight needs are pushing up a size bigger then power needs seem to be.
It takes a lot of tractor weight to stop that rocking back and fourth with plunger. My suspicion having run numerous square balers of different configurations on numerous different tractors is you would have to get up to a 4 series tractor to see any noticeable difference. I am however curious if a 2 or 3 series could bale with a kicker and wagon in tow...? Does anyone have experience with that? I'm more curious if a 3 series could run a 4x4 round baler? Anyone out there done that? If so, what was your experience like? Tractor Time with Tim, I'm not sure you could run a newer over top square baler with a 1025. The plunger on them is usually sped up quite a bit. They're designed to bale what you did at about 3-7 times the speed depending on the baler. Uses a bit more power than I think you have once you crank that plunger up. I wouldn't advice running slower ground speed, as you will offsize your flakes. Cool video!
I would bet the 2032 at least would hold it much better.. I just upgraded to that from a 1023e recently and the difference is dramatic in all respects.. size, horsepower and hydraulic power.. I have some logs and such that the 1023e just could not do, it could not even pull them with chain along the ground. This new 2032, not only could pull them but lifted these huge 8 foot long, probably 3-4 foot wide logs as if they were toothpicks. I knew to expect a dramatic increase but these new 2021 models have really got some huge changes to them.. Not only that, I was shocked to find this thing also has cruise control and a button that allows you to drive it like a car or truck.. i.e. you press the foot pedal and you speed up and the tractor autothrottles.. turn it off and you go back to standard throttle level control. My wife clocked me at 30 mph when we did a quick road test.. and I slowed down because on a tractor that size, trust me you feel like you are doing 50 or more.. but I wonder just how fast this thing is geared for now in high gear mode. So I would fully expect this 2032 to handle this bailer much better.. Currently I have a grapple and a full 3 point stump grinder attached to mine (damn is that stump grinder freaking heavy... it is more heavy than my weight bar filled up) and the tractor barely even noticed the thing during grinding of big stumps... Very pleasantly surprised with this upgrade.
Many hours spent on these old girls 😁 just as a point of interest Tim, the needles don't come up though the hay, they come up through the gaps in the plunger, in front of the bale 👍 the bill hook in the knotter then ties 3/4s of the knot, the tension does the rest and tightens it 😁
My youth was spent pulling a new holland baler behind a Massey 165. I loved that tractor and my uncle still has it. He had three daughters and so I would spend all of my time helping him farm because my dad didn't have any tractors. He lived down the road from me and from the time I was about 12 I would ride my minibike there and help him farm all day. As I got older I got to drive the Ford 9700 and plough and disc and cultivate. My uncle is still here and 40 years later I am still helping him farm a bit when I can. I am going to his place today actually to get my deer stands set up for bow season that starts next month. What great memories you brought up, Tim. I think the kids of today are getting a disservice not having to bale square bales of hay. The old barns were better equipped for it, and the round bales seem like a fair bit of wastage.
A knotter story on an old JD 24T baler... Never, ever, EVER remove a link from the roller chain that drives an old knotter! Im my case, the chain was loose, and I figured it wouldn't hurt to remove a link to tighten it up. Giant mistake! That shortened chain completely changed the timing of the entire knotter mechanism. It seemed to work, right up until when the knotter tripped to start tying a bale and shot the twine needles up into the bale chamber JUST as the plunger was coming forward to compress the next bale flake! Luckily the baler had a safety mechanism that lifts some plunger stops up as the needles come up. These caught the plunger, which immediately stopped by breaking the shear bolt on the flywheel that drives the plunger. Took a while, and some knowledge gained from an old JD mechanic, to realize my mistake and correct it. Life lesson learned!
Seems like I remember something like that happened on a old new Holland bailer we ran when I was a kid. But pretty sure ours snapped the needles off in the process.
The number of chain links has nothing to do with the timing. What WILL affect the timing is chain stretch, but that is not an insurmountable problem.
Oohhh the memories of blistered hands and sweaty brows from putting up hay on my Uncle's dairy farm when I was a young teen. Thousands of bales into the loft. The shower at the end of the day always felt good. We pulled a wagon behind the baler and stacked the bales on it. The wagon was hauled to the barn and the bales were unloaded onto an escalator and moved up to the loft where we stacked the bales. Eventually they purchased a baler with a thrower that tossed the bales onto a wagon with high steel cage walls.
Tim, for future reference, one of the most critical adjustments on the knotter is the location of the twine needles as the come up though the bale chute into the knotter frame. I owned a custom baling business as a teenager and custom baled hay for years. I ran a JD 336. The needles need to just barely rub the knotter frame during the tying cycle. This assures the twine is placed squarely in the twine disc notches before they rotate. If the twine misses the notches in the twine discs the billhooks will pull the twine away from the disc assembly thus creating a “dropped” knot (as we used to say). It’s very frustrating when a customer sees all these busted bales laying around in his field. Creates a lot of extra work for the crew too. An old timer taught me this trick and he cussed me out when I explained that the operator’s manual doesn’t describe the needle adjustment that way. He said, “Do you want to follow that manual or do you want your knots to tie every time?” We were having a though time getting through the season so I tried it. Fixed it immediately! Never had to worry about it again. Experience trumps technical manuals a fair share of the time. As a Hoosier farm boy growing up in the ‘60s I appreciate your videos and insight. I own a 1025R too. Love it! Blessings my friend!
I am a retired city slicker. I never knew how bales were made. The amount of knowledge, problem solving skills and complex dangerous machinery farmers have is staggering. You have my respect!
Thanks Jack! Glad you are getting to see the problem solving skills aspect. This is the most amazing part in my opinion. Farmers are typically very similar to mechanical engineers. Often more capable due to the wide variety of experiences they encounter.
I’m convinced that my dad could make ANYTHING work!
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I am a retired physician. I have always said. Farmers make the best patients. They could solve most problems on their own. I love your channel too! What farmers do should be required education!!!!
Got to say I’m very impressed. That little Tractor 🚜 deserves an 🥇 award.
Ah, memories... Spent several summers of my Colorado youth (mid/late 70s) "custom" haying upland hay fields (AKA low yield non irrigated) with a JD 1020, a JD sickle bar mower, a JD 3-pt roll bar rake, and a JD 24T small square baler. 'Course back then, there was no such thing as a big square baler, and I do not recall round balers even being a thing yet.
Love those old square bailers. Grew up running them for the farm across the street.
Across the street from Matt?
@@TractorTimewithTim LOL, no. In NY state.
Memories, not sure good of all the square bales I tossed on our farm from our baler. Wanted to mention when I was a real small kid, the first baler I saw was one that used wire not string. Had seats on the back for someone to twist the wire in each bale. Finally got my 2025R to help me with chores in my older years. No farming any more but living on the old homestead. Your videos have really helped in setting up and using my tractor, a lot of good advice.
Howdy. In NY we call them needles that bring the string up to be tied by the knotter. We also called the sections of hay in the bale a wafer. Grew up on a dairy farm south of Syracuse. Tractor size for baling is about horsepower and weight. We had a hydraulic kicker on out JD baler and pulled a wagon around. We used a JD4020 and on hills you would not want anything smaller with a full wagon of hay. Great video.
I've always known a slice of hay from the bale as a "flake". Might be a regional thing.
I love how you test what these small tractors are really capable of. Great informative video. I really like the explanation of how the baler works.
In the late 1950's we had a John Deere 116 baler. The ram went from side to side which caused the baler to rock that way. This eliminated the surging feeling on the tractor. The problem was that the bales came out the side and had to turn to fall on the ground. In general, round balers are for persons that feed what they grow. Wrapped bales are sometimes left in the field until they are needed. Our use of square bales was because we sold the hay which required that it be stacked on trucks. Stacks waiting on the road side for pick up often resulted in some of the bales being stolen. While we later went to 3 wire tied bales that could often weigh 300 pounds or more but this still happened. The later development of the really large bales seemed to solve this issue but their use was limited to commercial feed lots. Sales of hay for horse owners seemed to be best served by smaller 2 wire bales.
As usual a very comprehensive test. Well done.
I pulled and baled hay with a Farmall Super C, when we farmed back in the 60’s
They had 20 hp at drawbar
Yep. Old tractors lacked horsepower but had multi-cylinder engines with flat torque curves to pull you through those loaded conditions. The weight of those large frame tractors was important so that the implement did not push the tractor around.
On the farm I use to work on we bailed square with a John Deere 1070. It had about 30hp but was quite bigger. It still got thrown around by the plunger. At the end of the day you could still feel it while sitting or standing. Like being on a boat, then getting on land.
This video brought back a lot of memories of being on the farm. I think we had a New Idea or a New Holland. I can't remember. One think I do remember is trying to figure out how those knotters worked. I thought to myself that whoever came up with designing those knotters was someone pretty darn sharp. Thanks for sharing a day on the farm.
It's quite a complex system probably made as simple as possible but wow is all i can say
A very interesting thing about the knotters on a New Holland baler is that a brand new Hayliner uses the same knotter technology as the first models from decades ago.
Cool to watch! I would imagine the only issue would be pulling a hill or being pushed down one. With all the hills around our farm we use big tractors for safety.
Yeah that's the smart thing to do
Master safety cutch on my #12 Massey small square baler is set at 14 HP for baler , tractor size depends on if pulling a hay rack. And size of hills being negotiated!
Nothing gets a teenager ready for football season like a summer hauling alfalfa square bales.
I enjoyed visiting Mat - that is cool to small bail - many a person with a hose and need to feed it may not have anything but a pickup. Round bails are pain due to weight once home. Depends on the customer and their needs. Big operations need big and have big to tote and distribute. Thanks !
I always wondered if it would work. Thanks for showing it! I knew it had enough hp, just was wondering about the weight. Now to hook up a wagon full of hay bales as well. Ha!
I'm glad you did this video. I've always wondered how a small tractor would handle a baler.
Brings back memories! Helping our neighbors and uncle and cousins standing on the hay wagon stacking behind that chute stacking bales. Fun times in the middle of summer! Built character
I bale hay with an old 8n ford pulling a new holland 271. It does good, when we first got the baler going we hooked it to a yanmar 1550 tractor that was 15hp on the engine and it baled but we didn't want to use it on hills mainly from a weight perspective.
Thank you Thank you Thank you. This is the BIGGEST question I had for my 1025R. I wouldn't even combine the wind rows. Then it wouldn't be picking up as much and I could go faster. I only have a few acres and a few animals so I might be on the hunt for a old used square baler now. Again, many Thanks TTWT.
There are several farmers in our area that do the square bales. In seeing the fields with those bales, it brings me back to my younger days. I never worked on a hauling crew due to my size. I always dreamed of me doing that. I bet you may still be shaking from that experience.
That was a great explanation on how bailers worked. It was good that you slowed down the knotting process, too, so that we could understand it better.
Pretty awesome when a design is so good it barely changes through decades.
Back in my farming days, everyone used John Deere balers around me- just like this. They typically used a utility tractor to pull it, and most had the kicker on the back. I remember the one dairy farmer used his (then) new 2955 to bale with- because it had the cab with A/C! Those were in the 70 hp range, like a 5075E, but larger. Nice tractors. My neighbor growing up baled with a small Ford utility tractor- which he also plowed with! (they did have bigger tractors)
The one who didn't use a kicker had a wire tie model, and the 1/4 turn chute. He had a New Holland Stackcruiser to pick them up. Like you said, Tim- he packed those things as tight as he could. They were for sale to the horse tracks, who paid by the ton- so the more tonnage you could put on the truck... Busted my butt a few summers stacking those ones. He pulled his with a 120hp JD cab tractor (not sure of model). When stopped, it would rock the tractor back and forth, just like Johnny.
Once again, never underestimate the might of the trusty 1025R. That was fun to see. (I never understood those knitters either). Blessings.
Tim, you just answered so many of my questions. So grateful!
We had one of those JD balers bought new back then. More cuss words and crescent wrenches were beat on those knotters than any other piece of equipment on the farm. It seems like when you are haying that you are only ever six hours away from a rainstorm spoiling the hay and the knotters get finicky because they sense the change in atmospheric pressure. Most often we baled with an Oliver 50HP 880 but after that went down stripping transmission gears while picking corn for a neighbor we used the 35HP Ferguson to fill in on baling duty (it surged/"lunged" too). You might get a 20HP Ford 8N to run the baler since you had the JD 1025R, but we only had the bigger Fergusons.
The biggest issue with the 8n for baling, as with so many other tractors, is the lack of a live PTO to keep the baler rocking but stop forward motion in varying windrows.
A large tractor would be rocked also when sitting still but once moving you wouldn’t feel it. Just could hear the engine in rhythm with the baler. We would hook a hay wagon behind the baler and another person would load the wagon on the go.
WOWWWIEEE WOW!!! I would have never of dreamed about a 1025R would ever of pulled & worked a standard size bailer! Iam thouroughly impressed to say the least! It sure is a funny looking pair-----tiny john deere tractor pulls a standard size square baill bailer!!! If you were doing this all the time, i would be keeping an eye on the frame of the 1025R as well as the tranny/axle housing components for st4ess fractures!!! Perhaps i worry to much about these little, i dunno
We had a 235 Massey Fergison tractor that we used on our JD 336 & 337 john deere bailers. Good job Tim. Take care & God bless!!!
Great video Christy with drone shots, close ups, and the failures. Good combination with the narration over the video to describe what is happening.
And I liked trying a 1025 on a 'real farm equipment' bailer
We use a competitive 38hp tractor and a late 50s model John Deere 14T baler with great success (550 bales annually) twine string only. Single windrows are necessary in 3 ton / acre hay with a much narrower pickup attachment on the older baler. Winter tune up is available at the JD dealership if required at reasonable prices. Consistent volume of hay and proper bale chamber tension is essential. Remove all hay from baler before storage and we coat all internal wear surfaces with light oil or diesel. Saves a lot of headaches.
I love these episodes with Matt doing hay I worked a hay farm as a teenager a lot of work but it was a good group of guys and did we have fun Johnny pulled that baler pretty good And Tim looked like he was having fun makes me wish I had hay to bale great video
Yep. Having fun! Always enjoy working with Matt!
Pure magic watching that baler work. Thanks Tim.
Thanks for the video! We have 10 acres that we will be moving to hay and I’ve been planning the equipment we would need to do so, glad to hear it can be done with something so small
Oh the memories! Bucking hay in July. What hot, dusty, itchy work that was. And to this day, I still don't understand how that dang knotter works! LOL!
I would tend to believe that using that size of a tractor for long day, long term bailing would be good. A bigger tractor means that the engine is working nearly as hard and the weight of the tractor would be able to handle the vibrations and pounding the type of bailler they make.
Great video
I’m thinking about getting one of these square balers in the spring. I thought the 2038r would run it but I am surprised that the 1025r did
we have a same baler but from the Company Welger its a AP42 with bale cannon its just amazing so simple of a machine :D and its normal when at the first past the Knotter isnt working its kinda adjusting since its just running once a year so that normal and if its stop knotting at mid through check the twine if its empty but normaly youre good to go
Reminds me of the days when I used to walk behind the trailer or truck tossing those bales up to the stackers. It took a little while before I could get them up high enough so they didn't have to practically fall off grabbing them. Then there were the snakes and the mice in the bales that were so much fun to have pop up in your face. I guess you've proved that in a pinch the 1 series will do some farm work after all. Good job. Hay elevators were the most fun. :)
I've ran my 4115 on a new holland 68 and it does well for small, tight areas I need to bale, plus I've also cut hay with a new holland 479 haybine on 4 acres and it handled it just fine in low range and a steady feed of hay. I'm happy that you are seeing what these little tractors can do.
Brings back memories when I was a kid. We baked with a Mcormick WD-9 and a case wire tie baker with a wisconsin motor. Dad always baled as heavy as possible so as to save wire. We also baked commercially.
I was impressed, I wouldn't have thought a 1025 would handle that bailer so well. I suspect the 2038 would be marginally better, but I was surprised how well the 1025 did.
25 horse or 38 horse 38 would be much faster. I bailed many a bale with a j d B when I was teenager. B had I think 28 h p but weighs 4500 pounds. I still have the tractor I used from the early 60 s. I'm old now but the B still runs good.
Loved the video. 8N Ford’s pulled a lot of square bailers when I was growing up and other than weight pto power wasn’t that high.
Incredible! We had the same baler with a kicker, hooked to a JD 7400 and you could feel the plunger on a tractor that size as well. Sweet setup for a hobby farm
Was about to comment something similar. On a tractor at the 4000 kg mark and a trailer behind, if still yanks it and standing still it's noticeable. And that is a "small" square baler, Welger AP 41, bale canal is 30x40 cm only, baler weights just under 1000 kg by itself (the top of the line Lely Welger AP830 nowadays is around 2000 kg).
Our square bailer used wire. If something else on the farm needed fixed dad would say "go get a piece of bailing wire". So glad when we went to the Hesston stacker. Our round bailer used twine.
We used to get that surge on a gear drive 44 hp tractor that weighed in at 6,000+ lbs with ballast. The square balers can really shake you when they get moving.
Good job John Deere 1025R ! When we made bales a long time ago we used a Massey Ferguson 135 (47 hp) :)
I've woundered this for a couple years. Thanks
Cool to see you try this, but growing up I was the guy in the haymound, not as much fun as you think it might be.Kind of bringing back a lot of memories, and I'm 40 we had a new Holland square baler and 1085 Massey pulling it, didn't need to work out after doing hay for a week or 2👍
I've always heard that knotters were tempermental on about all the brands back then, but once they were working right, you could get lots of bales from them.
Nice video. A little correction in your comment. The hay is compressed in the bale chamber. Also it the needles go through the hay they break. The needles go through slots in the plunger.
Keep it up.
Tim that lunging as you called it is what I grew up calling the “baler stroke”. And as I’ve said before I used to run a Allis-Chalmers 6060 and trust me I still felt that baler stroke on it. This was a great video.
Thanks for watching. I wouldn't want to run the baler on a 1025R for very long!
@@TractorTimewithTim I always look forward to new videos from you. It reminds me that I miss being on a tractor from daylight till dark. And some times working till 3 or 4 in the morning. And I love the relationship that you have with your wife. The two of you remind me a lot of me and my wife. And I like that you are not bias when it comes to the color of tractors.
What a relief it is to see this! My 3025e should be able to bale too!
This awesome to watch because I am looking at a baler for the start up of my farm. I didn’t know if my little Johnny would handle raking and baling.
Watched your video very good. By the there are slots in the plunger that protect the needles when tying .If the r in into the hay, usually breaking the. Wwdles
Nice work Tim, now let’s see you pull a hay wagon behind the bailer, and see if Johnny can pull the rig with a full load of hay bails on the wagon.
Hmm…maybe not :-)
Love how every question that I would ask you answer thank you Tim
When I was a kid, my Dad had a 24T with a Wisconsin air cooled engine mounted on it. If it ate a large gulp of hay, you could hear it a mile away straining but it never failed. You don't need a 120 horsepower tractor to run a small square baler. If the knotter doesn't work initially, it may be from too liberal greasing of the knotter. They only need a bit to stay alive. Better to grease more often than a large goop coming out and causing the twine to slip in the knotting process. In my lifetime, I have bales thousands and thousands of square bales. So much so, I switched to round bales.
This brings back suppressed memories from my younger days growing up. Dad had horses so we always seemed to have square bails. Bailing wasn't so bad but the loading and stacking in the SE Tennessee heat and humidity it was brutal. Let's not forget the times when a snake would get bailed. I still hate horses to this day, if it doesn't have a throttle I'm not interested. This would've been a good Halloween video. lol
Yea! Easy to romanticize some of this. It is HARD work when done at scale!
I baled hay as a teenager in Central IN. Our heat and humidity isn't much different than TN. It is a tough task no matter where one is even with tractors. At a penny and a half a bale, one didn't get rich for sure, but I got the extra half penny for loading behind the baler. The guys unloading and in the mow only got a penny. They could have offered me a quarter a bale to go up in the mow and I would have stayed on the wagon! Lol. My best day was loading 72 bales every 15 minutes. That was a perfect field...thick hay, flat as a pool table and the baler performed flawlessly. There were days I didn't get 200 bales all day due to breakdowns. One day I made zip because the baler was new and hadn't been timed properly at the dealer, but I enjoyed hanging out with my boss even if I wasn't making any money.
About 10 years ago, a farmer friend of mine was baling about 10,000 bales of straw a year and offering $10 an hour. He couldn't beg, borrow or steal enough help to get the job done. Granted, I heard horror stories from more than one source how ridiculous his expectations were, i.e. 2 breaks during a 10-14 hour day, but for 10 bucks an hour, I'd have worn two canteens of water and managed. My friend just gave up growing wheat all together and is now strictly corn and soybeans. He still can't find enough help. Lol
@@terrycastor8299 And it didn't kill us. I'd still rather be handling hay than sitting around playing video games. Everyone in the hay field was too tired to go shoot up the school.
@@turdferguson5300 , you're absolutely correct! Hard work never hurt anyone and it surely makes one appreciate wages for a job well done. It kept me in better shape than I realized too.
When I saw the thumbnail, I guessed that bailer was a JD 327. My dad bought one brand new in 1981. He had a John Deere 950 tractor he'd bought new in 1977 or '78 that pulled it. It was 27hp. After multiple troubles trying to hire out to have the hay done, he finally invested in a whole set of brand new hay equipment in summer of '81. That 327 would bail anything. It was the smallest of the series. I think there was a 337, 347 and 357 and this series may have been first produced around 1980. Maybe very late 1970's. The only trouble dad had was at least once a year during the bailing of the field, that thing would plug up in real heavy stuff and he'd break the shear pin on the flywheel. We figure it only did that because it was the smallest of the series. But it was such a great bailer and so reliable. Dad started to pull it with a 50 horse Allis-Chalmers 5050 in 1984 or so. Sold it in 2002 and only because he quit raising cattle and didn't need to cut hay anymore. Seeing this brings back great memories!
Very enjoyable video for me. Thank you for explaining and showing how the baler works. As others have said here, I also helped pick up bales in a hay field, but never knew exactly how everything worked. My Dad always preferred 40 -50 pound bales (me too)!
I'm not sure I would want to try that in hill country, but it seems to have worked well on relatively flat ground. We used to bale with a 245 MF and it would get pushed around by the baler on hills. In later years we moved up to a 90 HP Case and it didn't give any ground to the baler.
I'm surprised and impressed by the little Johnny.
If U read up on it john deer says not to run a square bailer behind a sub compact tractor Bc the forward momentum of the plunger rocks the tractor and takes momentum from the plunger.
Compact and sub compact tractors can do more then most think. Thanks for the content.
Yep, the general rule of thumb is that HP buys speed, but if your willing to go slow, it doesn't take as much as you might think. Of course that's the whole purpose of Tim's website, showing what these little tractors can do. He does a good job of it.
Tim I have to say I love the music in your intro and the truly does fit this channel I absolutely wonderful see you in the next video
My grandfather would have me on the old dump rake behind the tractor raking up all the gatherings that the baler didn't ;pick up and then we'd go back and bale that!
Thanks Tim. We've always wondered if ours would run a baler. Now we know!
I grew up with small squares. We were wire tied bales, machine stacked 8 tiers then hand stacked 7 on top of that plus in the leans. Me and my brothers were lean and mean come the end of the summer.
That hay looks like it got rained on. I wouldn't try to pull a wagon behind that baler when you've got that tiny little tractor out front.
I’ve been wondering if I could bale with the 755 for our future goat endeavors, this is the video I’ve been waiting for! Fantastic.
Keep us posted, I have an 855. Aside from some wiggling, I think it will work!
I've baled with 348 Small balers for 25 years. You need a bigger tractor. It's not the horsepower, it's the weight of the tractor. All that rocking of the tractor is energy taken away from the compression of the bale. You get much tighter, cleaner bales and fewer missed ties when you have a tractor with more mass. The larger tractor can also help keep that flywheel at its optimum RPM. We bale straw with a 7820. It's HP could wring the PTO off, but with it's mass, bale quality is top notch!
Great video. Got to see something I’d never seen done before.
Interesting video. I can remember moving many square bales when I was a kid.
We had a JOHN DEERE 24T with a stooker on the back of a FORDSON MAJOR. I could keep up with it for 8 hours a day.
I'd love to see how this tractor could handle this type of bailer with a kicker on it.
Neat video! We ran our 14T with our Mahindra 32hp hydrostatic transmission for a season or two then decided we could afford a good used MF 265 we found at an auction. We figured Breaking the compacts transmission would’ve costed more than the whole other tractor 4 years ago.
Most small compact tractors may not have a lot of weight or pulling abilities but the power out put from a lot of compact tractors is plenty for quiet a few pto driven implements.
This video triggered lots of old memories.
Great set up for a semi serious hobby farm.👍👌🇺🇸
This was a very cool video idea. Lots of knowledge to gain from this one! Appreciate the effort putting this together.
PERFECT! This is the one outstanding issue I am trying to resolve. I am turning 3 1/2-4 acres into hay fields now that we are down to 1 horse, and my Kubota B2410 will handle a disc mower and tedder, but wondering if it will pull and power a 24T or 327 baler. Now I know, if the 1025R which has similar HP out of the PTO as my Bota, and the Bota weighing a bit more, now seeing is believing, it will. This will save me THOUSANDS of $$$$$ by not needing to buy a second tractor, or trying to find one of those small Italian jobs made for Compacts.
Just be careful with that stubby PTO.
Personally, I make hay for a living. Some round bales, but mostly small squares. The first few bales never tie correctly. Another thing I’ve done is put a platform in the back of the baler so that someone can ride along to make those adjustments in the beginning.
Who ever I bought mine from must have known how to tune them well. I have basically that same baler. I have had two broken bakes in about 2000. Never any issues starting. I do leave the last bale in it though. Probably corrodes it a bit more, but the grass should be pretty dry anyway. That suggests it is all about adjustment unless I just got lucky with one that was made better.
I thought I was the only crazy person who baled hay with a compact tractor. I bale with a JD 346 pulled by a 20hp Mahindra
My thoughts are yes it would work on flat ground but you're at a definite weight disadvantage so any kind of hilly ground will get sketchy fast with that little 1025r. I'd go up to the next size or 2 larger for better weight control. Also. If you have a cruise control that may help. So every lunge from the bailer doesn't move your foot on the hydrostatic foot pedals. In the old days you picked an appropriate gear and clutched it as needed if the windrow got thick and the bailer needed to catch up, or down or upshift as needed.
I was thinking 40-50 hp tractor would be more ideal minimum but very impressed how the 1025 handled the job. Comes more to your terrain and how fast you want to go to how much tractor one needs in this application. Still hate them knotters and processing 30-60 thousand bales per yr....round balers when gods gift hahaha
I think that would be good for the smaller homesteaders. This way they could have a small field for hay and another for pasture for the animals to graze in.
Great video. Your knowledge of farm equipment is amazing. Thanks for sharing.
Perfect timing as I've been working through the idea of doing this! I've got to deal with hills so I'm going 3049R or MF 2605. Horse power isn't my worry it's weigh of the baler on the hills. Also do want enough power for a decent sized dicsbine 3 point or maybe a older sickle bar haybine. Looked into a 1840 after your show video and again weight needs are pushing up a size bigger then power needs seem to be.
Get a 4020
@@Jet_Hammer love those tractors, but with 5 acres total 3.5 of that field, it may be over kill.
Hopefully you can do a mini roll baler demo in the future for comparison!
Thanks for making this video! This was definately a question of mine.
It takes a lot of tractor weight to stop that rocking back and fourth with plunger. My suspicion having run numerous square balers of different configurations on numerous different tractors is you would have to get up to a 4 series tractor to see any noticeable difference. I am however curious if a 2 or 3 series could bale with a kicker and wagon in tow...? Does anyone have experience with that?
I'm more curious if a 3 series could run a 4x4 round baler? Anyone out there done that? If so, what was your experience like?
Tractor Time with Tim, I'm not sure you could run a newer over top square baler with a 1025. The plunger on them is usually sped up quite a bit. They're designed to bale what you did at about 3-7 times the speed depending on the baler. Uses a bit more power than I think you have once you crank that plunger up. I wouldn't advice running slower ground speed, as you will offsize your flakes.
Cool video!
I would bet the 2032 at least would hold it much better.. I just upgraded to that from a 1023e recently and the difference is dramatic in all respects.. size, horsepower and hydraulic power.. I have some logs and such that the 1023e just could not do, it could not even pull them with chain along the ground. This new 2032, not only could pull them but lifted these huge 8 foot long, probably 3-4 foot wide logs as if they were toothpicks. I knew to expect a dramatic increase but these new 2021 models have really got some huge changes to them.. Not only that, I was shocked to find this thing also has cruise control and a button that allows you to drive it like a car or truck.. i.e. you press the foot pedal and you speed up and the tractor autothrottles.. turn it off and you go back to standard throttle level control. My wife clocked me at 30 mph when we did a quick road test.. and I slowed down because on a tractor that size, trust me you feel like you are doing 50 or more.. but I wonder just how fast this thing is geared for now in high gear mode.
So I would fully expect this 2032 to handle this bailer much better.. Currently I have a grapple and a full 3 point stump grinder attached to mine (damn is that stump grinder freaking heavy... it is more heavy than my weight bar filled up) and the tractor barely even noticed the thing during grinding of big stumps... Very pleasantly surprised with this upgrade.
Farmers used to pull bailers like this with 8N''s and B's with about the same HP
Another superb video, per your usual. Thank you! God bless.
I am surprised. I have baled with my 990 and 4005 and well, I guess you just don't do any hills with the 1025R, but sure works!
Many hours spent on these old girls 😁 just as a point of interest Tim, the needles don't come up though the hay, they come up through the gaps in the plunger, in front of the bale 👍 the bill hook in the knotter then ties 3/4s of the knot, the tension does the rest and tightens it 😁
Great video and even better plug at the end.