2023 McLaren Artura Review // The Worst Best Car Ever

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  • Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
  • The Mclaren Artura ($289,175 as specced in the US, ~$393,397 CAD converted) is a hybrid V6 twin-turbo supercar that makes a massive 671 horsepower, 531 lb ft of torque, and has just a 3303 lb curb weight. It comes with a claimed 355 km/h top speed and a 3.0 second acceleration to 100 km/h. Like every Mclaren, it is hand assembled for extra precision - but do some extra quirks still come along for the ride? And does it hold its own against the competition? Thomas and James are excited to try their first ever Mclaren on Throttle House. We hope you enjoy the episode! Subscribe!
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  • @Stuey105
    @Stuey105 Рік тому +3296

    The 671hp number popping up so often is likely because it converts to 500kW.

    • @juliantaffa4089
      @juliantaffa4089 Рік тому +242

      Yep, metric gang for life

    • @chainringcalf
      @chainringcalf Рік тому +234

      They rounded to 500kW, converted to hp, and left the ridiculous "precision"

    • @NO3V
      @NO3V Рік тому +37

      I LOVE thoughtless precision!
      My favorites are commemorative tattoos marking the back left corner of the tattoo parlour instead of a less precise coordinate for the city.
      Rolls-Royce recently also marked the retention pond at their factory on the door sill of the Ghost!! (Doug DeMuro's video 5:23)

    • @reptilez13
      @reptilez13 Рік тому +169

      Ahhh, reminds me of the "276hp" JDM gentleman's agreement lol

    • @juliantaffa4089
      @juliantaffa4089 Рік тому +86

      @@reptilez13 yep, that was an agreement for 200kw.
      Crazy how far engines have come now

  • @LucasMp
    @LucasMp Рік тому +614

    I have just two things to say.
    1) The level of content that you guys create is absolutely nuts. Love this channel.
    2) the fact that both screens on a car that's about a quarter million dollars can (and fucking will) overheat that easily and constantly, while being THAT slow, is just absurd. That's beyond unacceptable.

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 Рік тому +41

      It's astounding some of the engineering decisions they make - technology aside even their engineering is often very questionable - one I recently became aware of is they put skeletal cast conrods in most of their V8's - ostensibly to save rotating mass - but the real outcome is a lot of McLaren models are very prone to bending rods. I mean, they could at LEAST use forged rods on all their cars, given how expensive they all are - and when you are asking a small V8 to produce big power at big revs, the last thing you should be doing is trying to use skinny cast conrods just so the engine revs a fraction more freely - hell even my low revving Lexus V8 has forged rods, and it was a fraction of the cost of even an "entry level" McLaren. The engine they use is derived from a Nissan unit developed for racing - Nissan NEVER put cast rods in it though.

    • @ConnorHammond
      @ConnorHammond Рік тому +5

      @@Beer_Dad1975 Exactly what happened to Tavarish's 675LT, RIP engine.

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 Рік тому +5

      @@ConnorHammond Yup that was how I found out about it - fair enough that he'd added a lot of power to it - but then when he goes and talks to the McLaren guru who shows how absolutely shit the rods are...

    • @Lukeywoodsey
      @Lukeywoodsey Рік тому +2

      ​@@Beer_Dad1975in fairness they said that's if you added more power, you shouldn't really need to modify a car with that much power

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 Рік тому +2

      @@Lukeywoodsey They are still really shockingly tiny - and a lot of owners are going to want to tune these cars - they should have at least SOME level of safety overhead.

  • @BIGGELATO
    @BIGGELATO Рік тому +1679

    Glad you're keeping McLaren accountable, or else they'll keep making unreliable cars. Someone has to do it!

    • @shannacollins4741
      @shannacollins4741 Рік тому +1

      Accountable? Do you really think that McLaren cares they are gonna keep putting out the same crap as long as the RICH folks keep buying them !

    • @jjjfo1818
      @jjjfo1818 Рік тому +27

      Other than the very important screens overheating, there’s nothing unreliable about this car

    • @andychang7137
      @andychang7137 Рік тому +51

      This is the main reason that I haven’t get an McLaren lol

    • @RomanticPopPunk
      @RomanticPopPunk Рік тому +100

      @@andychang7137 lol same, that’s definitely the reason haha….

    • @MrJamesguy1
      @MrJamesguy1 Рік тому +3

      So what did you guys get? ;p

  • @tavarish
    @tavarish Рік тому +1130

    I have never seen an Artura that works. Never.

    • @ardonjr
      @ardonjr Рік тому +63

      Said the man with 'not-a-working-P1' 😅 (which we by the way, love to see some updates from (it has been 12 days already.. love your video's)

    • @KINGVONFRM063
      @KINGVONFRM063 Рік тому +32

      Maybe you should buy one for cheap and make it work?

    • @ardonjr
      @ardonjr Рік тому +15

      @@KINGVONFRM063 lol! Like he hasn't enought projects to finish yet ;)

    • @joseph7860
      @joseph7860 Рік тому +40

      1200 miles in slightly over a month in mine and I've been driving it hard, been faultless.
      But seems i always get "lucky" with my McLarens

    • @snakeeyes9246
      @snakeeyes9246 Рік тому +7

      I just realized this is Tavarish.

  • @the_deee
    @the_deee Рік тому +1820

    James saying "It's the full McLaren experience" while slowly tapping TH's Business card is so hilarious

    • @surfer101ist
      @surfer101ist Рік тому +35

      That’s the moment I bursted out laughing. 10/10

    • @namegoeshere2903
      @namegoeshere2903 Рік тому +8

      ..and yet truer words were never spoken...

    • @mikeoconnell9019
      @mikeoconnell9019 Рік тому +15

      I love the face he makes it’s like so serious 😂

    • @NXT_LVL
      @NXT_LVL Рік тому +9

      I actually laughed thinking of Freddy Tavarish and his hurricane flooded P1

    • @3ducs
      @3ducs Рік тому +11

      Credit card actually. The full McLaren experience involves spending a LOT of money. That open was pure comedic gold.

  • @R03333
    @R03333 Рік тому +260

    I've said it before & I'll say it again, whats happened to McLaren is that for years people said the cars were phenomenal but lacked the "character" of their Italian rivals. McLaren then employed (I presume in labcoats) "character experts" to go and analyse cars that were reviewed as having lots of it so they could mimic some. Unfortunately they chose to take the character of old italian stuff that just didn't work 50% of the time. "ITS A FEATURE NOT A BUG"

    • @user-kj1yx5sg3g
      @user-kj1yx5sg3g Рік тому +39

      The feature, like Ferrari, is that you need to own more than one. So you can have one in the driveway while the other is in the shop. Then alternate.

    • @R03333
      @R03333 Рік тому +12

      @@user-kj1yx5sg3g truly the Italian exotic experience

    • @boostav
      @boostav Рік тому +4

      @@user-kj1yx5sg3g Ferrari's are very reliable these days

    • @cronoz-sensei4259
      @cronoz-sensei4259 Рік тому +3

      @@boostav eh...depends which one. And a lot of the issues with Ferrari isnt rly that theyre unreliable crapboxes (not anymore at least), more so that they use super weird and prone to break systems like the 4wd in the Ferrari FF (which I lowkey would love to get coz I think hatchback Ferrari is such a cool car idea, but the cost of replacing that thing when it breaks makes me second guess it), which is also insanely expensive to replace when it breaks. Funnily enough, 2005 onwards Maseratti Quatroportes are very reliable and give you that Ferrari flat plane crank v8 experience, with more practicality to boot.

    • @dddd-uk4vn
      @dddd-uk4vn 8 місяців тому +1

      @@cronoz-sensei4259 the FF is an excepetion, which is why it depreciated so badly. 99% of ferraris especially newer ones are reliable with good build quality

  • @chunbaouk
    @chunbaouk Рік тому +889

    I can see lots of comments (quite rightly) congratulating you on the excellent production value of your videos these days, but I just wanted to say as great as that is, what I love most about your videos is the writing, the comedy, the honesty, the chemistry and the integrity of your takes. I hope as you become ever more successful, you guys never lose that!

    • @dewjustin
      @dewjustin Рік тому +21

      It bothered me so much when straight pipes had more subs than TH. Literal opposite of all of those qualities you just wrote out.

    • @Blamant
      @Blamant Рік тому +4

      @@dewjustin I can't even watch the straightpipes anymore. It's so irritating to watch.

    • @EricDMMiller
      @EricDMMiller Рік тому

      Their production quality is exactly the inverse of McLaren.

    • @blackfire_x2964
      @blackfire_x2964 Рік тому +1

      @@dewjustinThat was ages ago at this point. But yeah it irritated me as well

    • @lepe
      @lepe Рік тому

      what the hell is wrong with you? just enjoy the video and comment about it if u want. stop circlejerking

  • @CH-qt4hr
    @CH-qt4hr Рік тому +151

    Interesting that the Car and Driver write up doesn't mention the atrocious build quality much at all. Kudos to Throttle House for keeping it real.

    • @dillonsrt
      @dillonsrt Рік тому +2

      Welk much like video game reviews...they can be bought that's why big company reviews shouldn't be trusted at all

  • @coreyk288
    @coreyk288 Рік тому +494

    Man, throttle house has come so far in such a relatively short period of time. It doesn’t seem that long ago that we’re discussing “regular traffic” cars. Now nearly every single video contain some of the most exciting cars currently made. Hats off to you guys

    • @MumrikDK
      @MumrikDK Рік тому +68

      I don't find it one-sidedly positive that they're reviewing fewer relevant cars.

    • @TermlessHGW
      @TermlessHGW Рік тому +2

      If anyone is watching TH on their phone...you're missing out on the quality of delivered entertainment.

    • @Delta0429
      @Delta0429 Рік тому +21

      They still do regular cars, just mostly on the Extra Throttle House channel instead. Recently they've done the AWD Hybrid Corolla and the Prius Prime, both pretty "normal" cars

    • @spencerwhitmore1896
      @spencerwhitmore1896 Рік тому

      ​@@TermlessHGWand how is that?

    • @egorlike1324
      @egorlike1324 Рік тому +6

      Kinda wish they d review more pedestrian cars

  • @KapuraIII
    @KapuraIII Рік тому +22

    Incredible opening skit, one of the best in recent memory. The one shot of james face from below, the cuts to the card reader, the delivery, [chef kiss]

  • @HeartyJune
    @HeartyJune Рік тому +394

    The production level is just crazy and gets me each time. Cant believe we get this on youtube. I am so happy they got the recognition they deserve and managed to grow so much

    • @NXT_LVL
      @NXT_LVL Рік тому +1

      After watching how Freddy Tavarish is taking parts from ALL the previous 600 and 700 series to fix his P1 and pointing out THIS part in a P1 was in a 675.

  • @crazyleafscanuck
    @crazyleafscanuck Рік тому +90

    Nailed it. I own one and the gremlins are something you take hand in hand owning a McLaren. Turn it off and on again has been my approach. You put up with it because the driving experience is unmatched. McLaren also offered a 3 year fully covered service plan and 5 year warranty on the Artura to cover any reliability concerns. It was enough of a differentiator for me to trade in my McLaren GT.
    Funny enough I offered Karston through a common friend if you guys wanted to drive mine. Was super excited to see this review drop!

    • @G0ddEityawesome
      @G0ddEityawesome Рік тому +2

      The warranty term is BS because there is a high chance mclaren will go out of business in a few years 😂

    • @marty1035
      @marty1035 Рік тому +31

      About as BS as your comment.@@G0ddEityawesome

    • @florencebaendes2853
      @florencebaendes2853 Рік тому

      F no. I will not spending my money on some unreliable bs crap just because driving experience. I don't want to be another Paul Skywalker lol. And talking about experience, a kart would give you the same experience. You fanboys are just delusional

    • @Ov3RFLoW88
      @Ov3RFLoW88 Рік тому +4

      @@G0ddEityawesome then Volkswagen group will acquire it as they did with Lambo, Bugatti

    • @Nathan0A
      @Nathan0A 11 місяців тому +2

      I drove one at a press event and when asked, they told me the warranty was VOIDED if you drive it on track without first having a full inspection done on the car before EVERY trackday. No thanks.

  • @micahnichols155
    @micahnichols155 Рік тому +291

    Give a raise to whoever did the sound design on this video, fucking awesome!

    • @jonathanmiri3483
      @jonathanmiri3483 Рік тому +16

      Incredible sound engineering!!

    • @prit04
      @prit04 Рік тому +13

      Harrison is the sound engineer

    • @prit04
      @prit04 Рік тому +25

      Harrison the 6’6” rear seat headroom tester and sounds engineer extraordinaire

    • @Beer_Dad1975
      @Beer_Dad1975 Рік тому +4

      If only UA-cam supported Dolby Atmos it would be perfect.

    • @GuyGamer1
      @GuyGamer1 Рік тому

      ​@@Beer_Dad1975Why, do you have roof firing speakers or something? Or more than 9 speakers?

  • @TheAlexanderswagner
    @TheAlexanderswagner Рік тому +36

    This episode was so good. When Thomas was done driving and the scene went silent, I was half expecting it to cut to a cheering audience back at the studio. Well done lads

  • @NHHD
    @NHHD Рік тому +179

    This is the best automotive channel on youtube, really enjoy your content!

    • @eyescreamization
      @eyescreamization Рік тому +3

      I would consider savagegeese...but otherwise you are right.

    • @DevKumar-bi2ld
      @DevKumar-bi2ld Рік тому

      Nahh carwow with there drag races is the best >>>>>

    • @Ar1AnX1x
      @Ar1AnX1x Рік тому +3

      @@DevKumar-bi2ld carwow and Doug are better details and other stuff about the car other than the driving but TH is focused on the driving and how much of a driver's car it is, plus they basically make mini-movies and their episodes has literal Writing in it, which at times are pretty Witty which no other car channel does except for Squid and a bunch of others who basically make Documentaries.

    • @DevKumar-bi2ld
      @DevKumar-bi2ld Рік тому

      @@Ar1AnX1x yeah not denying what have you just said but, for me drag races , rolling races, breaking test are more enjoyable that's why I preferred carwow, plus I like the comedic rivalry between mat and yianni.

  • @Jezzrichjames
    @Jezzrichjames Рік тому +13

    An amazing introduction…gets better every time, and also, this is one of the most genuine reviews I’ve ever seen, showing not only the idyllic parts of the vehicle, but also showing all the faults, rattles, and pieces falling apart. I also love how this review is about how it is to drive the car, rather than just how the infotainment system works, or how it looks pulling up to a bougie hotel or restaurant.

  • @albrechtjohnj
    @albrechtjohnj Рік тому +334

    It's shocking that the Artura isn't sorted by now. I saw a pre-production Artura at a show more than 2 years ago.

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 Рік тому +64

      hand built british supercar wasnt a recipe for reliability in the first place now throw in twin turbo and extra battary and ev motor into the mix with a dash of tablet touch screen control sure does wonders for its reliability.

    • @BERZERKERSV4
      @BERZERKERSV4 Рік тому +4

      yup... just like the Emira...

    • @AI-qd4vb
      @AI-qd4vb Рік тому +7

      ​@@patthonsirilim5739None of what you said has nothing to do with it's poor reliability. Just a bunch of fairly racist remarks and ignorant nonsense. The car is not reliable because of the poor QA process that McLaren choose to implement. Nothing more nothing less. The company or their investors simply dont want to invest in QA for these cars and their buyers simply don't care about that. Pretty much the same with all high end cars (which is usually what the brits build). There's been plenty of reliable budget cars made in the UK.

    • @ShaiyanHossain
      @ShaiyanHossain Рік тому +9

      ​@@AI-qd4vbthose budget cars are rarely any good

    • @PenjaminFranklinn
      @PenjaminFranklinn Рік тому +38

      ​@AI-qd4vb what does racism have to do with this 😂😂

  • @HemiHalfCentury
    @HemiHalfCentury Рік тому +4

    THE FACT THAT THIS IS FREE ON UA-cam IS MIND BOGGLING. THE PRODUCTION QUALITY IN THE FIRST 2 MINUTES IS BETTER THAN ANYTHING SHORT OF MAHBE TOP GEAR IVE EVER SEEN ON TV YOUVE OUTDONE YOURSELVES I CANT WAIT TO SEE YALL BLOW TF UP EVEN MORE

  • @shobin05
    @shobin05 Рік тому +168

    Its a real shame McLaren has many quality issues. I always root for them seeing as how small they are compared to equivalent supercar makers. They need to focus on quality control fast or they're going to face the same faith as jaguar is right now.

    • @jeromehaywood1
      @jeromehaywood1 Рік тому +16

      That's never going to happen. McLaren has one of the best supercars on the market. The performance alone is makes them a timeless brand.

    • @47omkarrane
      @47omkarrane Рік тому +12

      *fate

    • @notagain2856
      @notagain2856 Рік тому +40

      Their quality issues mean Mclarens depreciate much faster than Ferraris and Lamborghinis. Great for those wanting to experience the performance but not willing to fork out msrp for a new one.

    • @yofolkdem1256
      @yofolkdem1256 Рік тому +15

      ​@@jeromehaywood1doesn't take long to go from timeless to utter joke. "You like burning money ? Buy a McLaren and watch both go up in flames."

    • @kylem324
      @kylem324 Рік тому +11

      @@jeromehaywood1 Hi. As someone that’s cheering for McLaren, it’s a problem that they really need to address. As an OEM they really need to make their cars more appealing to long term ownership. For instance, among the original P1 owners, there’s a number of them that have sold their cars because they don’t want the headache that comes with the milieu of service and maintenance issues. Reliability, durability, and build quality are all luxuries that you might not think about until you notice their absence. Not being inconvenienced or wasting time is a significant luxury.

  • @ChrisJones-yh2os
    @ChrisJones-yh2os Рік тому +12

    Omg. This is a masterclass in honesty without unkindness. And it left me wishing I could afford this car.

  • @jonathancollard3710
    @jonathancollard3710 Рік тому +10

    I’m sticking with my 570 Spider. 4.5 years of ownership and no issues. My advice; buy the car into its 2nd year of manufacture so all the niggles have been ironed out. Same happened with 12C and the 720S…. Overall a stupendous drivers car and yes, the steering is sublime and I don’t need more than 570 horses to have fun at twice the legal U.K. speed limit. Deffo a keeper now I cancelled my Emira order….

    • @macbooker
      @macbooker Рік тому

      Good call. Emira sucks big time, you dodged a bullet. So many issues.

    • @dns9155
      @dns9155 Рік тому

      @@macbookerreally? What are the issues?

    • @macbooker
      @macbooker Рік тому

      @@dns9155 yeah, software updates, battery not recharging, engine going into limp mode. It is fun when it works, but sucks when issues happen.

  • @reaver9
    @reaver9 Рік тому +1

    Guys hands down this is the top car channel- the humor, thedepth of reviews without sugar coating and quality of the footage - all superb. Keep it up!

  • @anuragmathur4358
    @anuragmathur4358 Рік тому +14

    Bought my Artura in Feb in Toronto. It does have "quirks" but the driving experience is insane.....no matter what speed or road you are on. The car is brilliant! This car is all about how it makes you feel. If that is what you are looking for, then have a drive in it. There are times it has some issues (i.e. entertainment display does not come on) but there are workarounds (just do a hard reset by holding down the home button). But when you put it in track mode.....it's a perfect drivers car. The option of driving in electric downtown Toronto, not disturbing anyone, is fantastic.
    Well done TH for an honest review.

    • @ThrottleHouse
      @ThrottleHouse  Рік тому +6

      That’s epic man hope you continue to enjoy it! What colour did you pick?

    • @kraenk12
      @kraenk12 Рік тому +2

      Quirks

    • @anuragmathur4358
      @anuragmathur4358 Рік тому +3

      @@ThrottleHouse Elite Plateaux Grey. Would love to show it to you guys and give you my thoughts on the car and real world driving. Given we live in the same city.

    • @raytrace2014
      @raytrace2014 Рік тому +1

      I love eclectic driving in Toronto. The city is famous for it. Some corners are taken like a soccer mom and the next moment you're charging down the street like an F1 driver.

    • @anuragmathur4358
      @anuragmathur4358 Рік тому

      Quirks because it does not take away from the driving experience. The 4th 911 (992S) I had prior to Artura had a transmission issue in the first 2 months where a new one needed to be shipped from Germany to replace it. That is a serious issue vs a quirk requiring the screen to be rebooted. I love Porsche but a lot of the issues I had with the 911's were kept under wraps. @@kraenk12

  • @mabedfo
    @mabedfo Рік тому +4

    I just love the throttle house guys style of reviewing cars. Canadian and Englishman, such good chemistry together, always entertaining, great opinions.

  • @william.hannan
    @william.hannan Рік тому +5

    Finally, McLaren is represented. I have a McLaren since 2021 and I haven’t had any issues at all. The car is solid. Anytime James and Thomas are in Carlsbad, if I’m around, they can test drive my 2020 McLaren 600LT Spider. While I appreciate the compliments in driving the Artura, I think they will have a new found appreciation for McLaren after testing the 600LT. McLaren offers different experiences depending on the car. I have only run into a handful of McLaren owners who felt like they bought a car with mechanical issues. Those were all very early MP4-12C models. I hope they choose to review more since I love their take on things. Including the silly messing about. Keep it up guys. Very entertaining.

    • @Caffeinated-DaVinci
      @Caffeinated-DaVinci 3 місяці тому +1

      You got a 600 unit limited production run specialty vehicle. The Artura is 'mass produced' (as much as a $250k supercar can be mass produced) with no production cap. I can't say that's really comparable to the Artura outside of price range. It's like comparing a $50,000 specially built quantum computer to a similarly priced Apple PC. It's just not the same.

  • @W_Ivar
    @W_Ivar Рік тому +7

    The heat coming from the exhaust at 2:58 was just a cherry on the cake of that shot 👌🏻😊

    • @theepicricemaker6611
      @theepicricemaker6611 Рік тому

      Took me a lot of looking to clock that

    • @IdnafalaJaris
      @IdnafalaJaris Рік тому

      @@theepicricemaker6611i was looking at the back of the car for a good 20 sec

  • @IDv8I
    @IDv8I Рік тому +51

    How well do the manufacturers take you taking the piss out of them all the time, lol? I do love the wit and detail of all your reviews, from a grocery getter to a supercar, thanks boys.

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Рік тому +10

      They just recommended it, and in addition to that conditioned McLaren's customers to give them a lot of leeway and not complain even if the cars are incredibly unreliable...any manufacturer would thank them for that!

    • @LanguagesWithAndrew
      @LanguagesWithAndrew Рік тому +1

      Well, we know that BMW has bitched at them about how much they complain about their cars' aesthetic because they've outright mentioned it on the channel.

    • @IDv8I
      @IDv8I Рік тому +2

      @@LanguagesWithAndrew Well, I think we all agree BMW deserved that. They spoke about how they would say it like it is on the Smoking Tire podcast. So respect.

  • @slimuttam
    @slimuttam Рік тому +1

    Can UA-cam have a "love" option instead of just a like? Your videos are beyond amazing and I don't know about Thomas, but I literally had tears watching him talk about how good the driving experience was. Throttle House is the best!

  • @endorphinity
    @endorphinity Рік тому +9

    Well, guys, you two are the most poetic car journalists I've ever seen. Bravo and thanks for this state-of-the-art review.

  • @Edu.3
    @Edu.3 Рік тому +2

    The fact that we get to watch this level of production on YT is astounding. I love the work TH is putting into quality.

  • @flacjacket
    @flacjacket Рік тому +35

    Excellent, I watched this while driving in to work in my McLaren this morning!
    Okay fine I watched it on the side of the road while waiting for the tow truck.

  • @pm9625
    @pm9625 Рік тому +4

    This production level is just incredible. Thank you all for what you do, we all win because you guys work hard

  • @rmp5s
    @rmp5s Рік тому +25

    The "screw that used to be attached to the car" is friggin hilarious. That's the most "British car" thing I've ever seen. 🤣

  • @LF-du4uc
    @LF-du4uc Рік тому +1

    Well If the quality of the car is garbage, the production quality of TH videos is through the roof. Keep it up guys!

  • @davidbee9563
    @davidbee9563 Рік тому +17

    There are certain markets which tax/limit cars according to specs. Hence the previous crop of sub 4 litre turbo supercars. Now sub 3 litre v6 models with hybrid assist. Or quotes of a number when clearly the power train produces much more. Not unlike the Japanese limit of 280ish hp 30 years ago. As long as the cars are good it doesn't really matter, unless you are GM selling a 6 litre n/a v8 worldwide.

  • @thedavenaugler
    @thedavenaugler Рік тому

    You guys are so easy to listen to! It’s enjoyable to listen to you guys review a vehicle. Definitely puts a smile on my face! Change nothing, keep everything!

  • @Joey.Alford
    @Joey.Alford Рік тому +20

    Karston absolutely CRUSHED this edit!

  • @dashawnking5555
    @dashawnking5555 Рік тому

    I truly wonder if manufacturers get mad about how honest these reviews are there’s no sugar coating just honest professional reviews

  • @j.mo22
    @j.mo22 Рік тому +5

    the production level you guys did on this video is top notch compared to the past ones. this has hagerty feels. really takes it to a different level.

  • @JerryCarterJr-kg7hq
    @JerryCarterJr-kg7hq Рік тому +2

    Just received my Artura on Saturday so far no issues. I agree with you both, it is truly a great car

  • @kjyu
    @kjyu Рік тому +29

    671HP is 500kW that's why the number!

    • @kyzer97320
      @kyzer97320 Рік тому

      Noooooo just nooooo😂 it's because of slight differences between hp in europe and us.

  • @mohammadsattar5488
    @mohammadsattar5488 Рік тому +1

    This is one of those cars that when asked if it's any good you shake your head and say YES or nod your head and say NO

  • @philipschrantz8402
    @philipschrantz8402 Рік тому +7

    A beautiful car, but the argument “But it’s got great dynamics” just doesn’t cut it. After all, that’s the fundamental premise of the car. Why should anyone accept faults from a $200,000 car that they’d be enraged over in a $30,000 daily driver? Worse, McLaren knows their cars are poorly built and seem to remain arrogantly unconcerned. The web is full of examples of horror stories regarding McLaren’s shoddy service and poor treatment of their customers. If I ever reach an understanding with the lottery commission, McLaren will not be on my shopping list…😎

    • @stupidmemes3955
      @stupidmemes3955 Рік тому

      u get faults from most supercars now adays. and the ones that run fine are usually the bland and boring ones

  • @HamzaMalik89
    @HamzaMalik89 Рік тому +1

    video production quality is on another level! wow!

  • @Driven-Productions
    @Driven-Productions Рік тому +5

    Amazing content guys. You nail it every time. Did I hear you say this was your first McLaren review?

  • @icriou
    @icriou Рік тому +2

    The production level, humor and the depth of the review are so good!

  • @dawnpoint
    @dawnpoint Рік тому +3

    90 seconds in and Karston has already blown me away with the edit. We don’t deserve such a legend.

  • @chinkwong2294
    @chinkwong2294 Рік тому +1

    First huge UA-cam car reviewer to actually tell the people how unreliable and difficult it is to own one. thank you

  • @somerandomfella
    @somerandomfella Рік тому +82

    Surely Maclaren can allocate some money to quality control by now..

    • @junyaiwase
      @junyaiwase Рік тому +2

      Surely.

    • @TML34
      @TML34 Рік тому +12

      @@junyaiwaseThey can’t and stop calling me Shirley.

    • @davu6712
      @davu6712 Рік тому +1

      these are bespoke low volume cars, these things will always happen

    • @junyaiwase
      @junyaiwase Рік тому +1

      @@TML34 sorry 🥲

    • @rotoehu9266
      @rotoehu9266 Рік тому +4

      McLaren Automative are broke. This maybe the model that finishes them off if it isn’t a success. Almost everyone loves how a McLaren drives but it would seem to date very few owners are prepared to stay with the brand after what is often awful ownership experience due to poor quality topped off by abysmal resale when they’ve finally had enough.

  • @bikotheanimator6169
    @bikotheanimator6169 Рік тому +1

    2:36 My favorite part so far. I loathe the massive production of SUVs, trucks, and crossovers. I only like two door sports coupes. Everyone and their mother (literally) has to have a huge SUV riding up my a**, and they can hardly see over the steering wheel, even though they are sitting 2 inches from the steering wheel and holding it with two hands. Women speeding in these huge killing machines while they have a load of children and clothes designer bags in the back seats. I don't even like sedans, and everyone seems obsessed with "sports" sedans as well. Whatever a "sports sedans" is, and the "gran coupe." No such thing. hahah

  • @drjk7565
    @drjk7565 Рік тому +56

    I think Thomas was on the verge of tears when he talks about the steering feedback of the Artura, but given it's hydraulic I'd say it's almost an unfair advantage in a world where everyone else uses electric steering racks. I imagine every modern car he reviews after this (and the Emira) is going to disappoint him.

    • @dnice362
      @dnice362 Рік тому +7

      Not unfair. Mclaren are phenomenal

    • @vertrox3435
      @vertrox3435 Рік тому +22

      You’re right, it’s *almost* unfair. Thing is, there’s nothing stopping other manufacturers from using hydraulic racks (except their apparent disregard for driver experience)

    • @BERZERKERSV4
      @BERZERKERSV4 Рік тому +3

      @@dnice362
      it's all BS.. these cars are owned/driven by posers whereby the car sounds more time parked in the garage and the owners spend more time bragging at the local pub..

    • @proinseasokiellig4388
      @proinseasokiellig4388 Рік тому +2

      @@BERZERKERSV4 BOLLOX

    • @AI-qd4vb
      @AI-qd4vb Рік тому +1

      ​@@proinseasokiellig4388what is? These cats should live at the tracks, yet they're seen more often at the bars...

  • @Marcelmopartruckguy
    @Marcelmopartruckguy Рік тому

    Only 1min 52 seconds in and this is the BEST audio/graphics/theme yet lol-back at er!!!!

  • @EmoBirb
    @EmoBirb Рік тому +6

    What a terrible car, it's not even funny. The quality control is atrocious which is unacceptable at this price point, the design is generic and the powertrain isn't exciting.
    Just for comparison, the 296 is a Ferrari, it's prettier and comparatively better made. The Porsche 992 Turbo S is infinitely more well made, prettier, timeless, will hold it's value, is more usable and won't bankrupt you with maintenance bills.
    McLaren will follow Jaguar, MG and Lotus into obscurity, no doubt.

    • @ApothecaryTerry
      @ApothecaryTerry Рік тому

      A) You didn't watch the last 98% of the video did you?
      B) Jaguar just announced significant profits, MG are breaking their sales records on a consistent basis and Lotus have sold 4x the number of Emiras in half of 2023 that they did in all of 2022, plus have 30x that number of preorders for the Eletre.
      C) Or, if we're talking publicity, Jag never lacked it, MG have just launched their performance crossover thing, which is all over UA-cam (e.g. Carwow drag races) and nobody has shut up about Lotus since the Emira was announced. Whatever anyone thinks of the cars, there's nothing obscure going on except your view of the world...

  • @lockingdiff
    @lockingdiff Рік тому +1

    I had an Artura for review for about 8 days. It was absolutely amazing. But after I filmed my review, I got a few errors as well. The screen would btch and moan, but never shut off. Eventually the airbag light came on, I got a system comms fault, driver's side seat error, and something else. When it works, it is ABSOLUTELY AMAZING. McLaren has recalled hundreds of cars below a certain VIN before customers can take delivery. They are scrapping them, salvaging non-electric components, and are sending customers/dealerships brand new cars with new VINs, new software, updated hardware, and new electrical hardware.

  • @DanDoesGame
    @DanDoesGame Рік тому +4

    LOL!! The intro.... Kinda stinks that the new car is having issues. Back to square one I guess with McLaren. I thought they had resolved there issues (why I edited this comment) didn't see the parts of you showing all the broken stuff 🤣🤣

  • @jayymac
    @jayymac Рік тому +1

    BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO. Production quality and editing keep out-doing themselves every single time. It’s like watching the original Top Gear in 2023. Writing and presentation is emotional. Chemistry is great. Jokes are great. Honesty is great. I could watch reviews like this all day, every day. Best automotive UA-camrs in the game. How do you not have your own network show by now???

  • @petezee6645
    @petezee6645 Рік тому +64

    So many reviews of British made cars start with a pisstake of their reliability. A8 did a great Range Rover Sport review that started with it arriving on a tow truck 😂

    • @ThomasTheTankEngine22
      @ThomasTheTankEngine22 Рік тому +2

      Because, generally speaking and with few exceptions, British cars are some of the most unreliable pieces of trash on the roads. No matter the cost

    • @LeonRivia
      @LeonRivia Рік тому +2

      🤣🤣

    • @rafaelcid8510
      @rafaelcid8510 4 місяці тому +1

      Because a lot of people hate the UK. The British cars are as reliable as the german or italian cars. Europeans are all the same in terms of reliability.

    • @rafaelcid8510
      @rafaelcid8510 2 місяці тому

      @@jashansidhu2859 the german cars have a lot of issues, I also own a Porsche Taycan and the reliability is terrible. The german cars are not better than other European cars

  • @babangill551
    @babangill551 Рік тому

    You guys have truly replaced the og tg. Your honesty, comic timing, knowledge and chemistry is top notch. Never lose it brothers.

  • @diluxe
    @diluxe Рік тому +3

    If mclaren can't sort the quality issues out on the review cars what hope is there for customers cars.

  • @jacques8762
    @jacques8762 Рік тому +1

    You guys are such an inspiration
    And the intro is superb.

  • @douglasdale8592
    @douglasdale8592 Рік тому +12

    Your editor needs a raise after this masterpiece!

  • @stefantorozov7508
    @stefantorozov7508 Рік тому

    The beginning of the video with the car introduction is definitely bringing old Top Gear vibes, outstanding video as always. You are definitely the best car review channel out there.

  • @zn9861
    @zn9861 Рік тому +4

    Love your honesty!

  • @spb78art
    @spb78art Рік тому +1

    The cinematography of this review is outstanding

  • @jacobrev6567
    @jacobrev6567 Рік тому +7

    The intro is never change at all 😂👍

  • @antaldamian
    @antaldamian Рік тому +2

    it's always such a pleasure to see your videos. they just keep getting better and better. Congrats to the TH team!!

  • @souliyachittarath4407
    @souliyachittarath4407 Рік тому +7

    Kinda sad that TH didn’t clarify that the the screw is critical to the infotainment. It is known as the infotainment screwed.

  • @joeomalley1969
    @joeomalley1969 Рік тому +2

    Would have been Bruce's 86th birthday yesterday R.I.P you brilliant man

  • @BallinBubblegum
    @BallinBubblegum Рік тому +9

    I would have liked to hear how this compares to the Maserati MC20. Which seems to be the closest competitor to this price wise.

    • @agentpt
      @agentpt Рік тому +1

      Maseratis never fail to disappoint unlike this MGEx

    • @BallinBubblegum
      @BallinBubblegum Рік тому

      @@agentpt Eh I disagree. Most of their cars aren’t great yeah but I’ve only heard good things about the MC-20.

  • @Mokster43
    @Mokster43 Рік тому +1

    This review makes me even more excited to see your purchase and review of your Lotus Emira!

  • @R8andGT3Fan
    @R8andGT3Fan Рік тому +6

    I think the 296 and this are not rivals, despite technical similarities...this is "the baby McL", the 570S successor. 488/F8/296 are on 720S/750S territory.
    Loved the sincere review! Keep doing this, guys!

  • @paulk4534
    @paulk4534 8 місяців тому +1

    The Artura is much improved on reliability, than previous McLarens. The company is going in the right direction. As someone that owns two 911 Turbos and previously owned a McLaren 570S, I would take this over a 911 Turbo all day.

  • @JemaKnight
    @JemaKnight Рік тому +27

    671 hp = 500 kW (rounded to the nearest whole number)
    No idea *why* that's being used as a figure though. Might mean something to the regulations of some market it gets exported to, carried into other markets the same way as with Japanese automakers agreeing to limit cars to 276 hp / 206kW. Something that still occurs even on non-Japanese automakers, long after the "agreement" has ended.
    Or, might just be a nice round number close _enough_ to the average output of the engines that it's just what they went with.

    • @NXT_LVL
      @NXT_LVL Рік тому

      maybe to offset the "quirks" aka issues in the quality. ironically 671 is more precise than 500... 500 is what you say when you dont know what it makes but you have an idea based on the parts... so 500. other than 671 because thats what the dyno said or you actually know EXACTLY the PRECISE figures.

    • @Ovenman940
      @Ovenman940 Рік тому +1

      I guess engineers use kW because it's easier to do maths for acceleration, etc., and the early planning stages of what a car will be and where it will sit in the market are based around things like number of seats, number of doors... and where the power should be. The engine could do more but it sacrifices other factors, so the rough number becomes the exact number.

    • @kyzer97320
      @kyzer97320 Рік тому

      ​@@Ovenman940 680 metric hp is just equal to 671 imperial hp. That's it.

  • @SmolPotatowo
    @SmolPotatowo Рік тому

    I don't usually like skits in videos but I always watch yours! Always funny and it never drags on too long.

  • @Cameron08_
    @Cameron08_ Рік тому +7

    How does a gauge cluster overheat😅

    • @CJ-ui4tg
      @CJ-ui4tg Рік тому +1

      Maybe has Google Chrome with 100 tabs

  • @BattyMckicknPunch
    @BattyMckicknPunch Рік тому

    Best edit of a TH episode yet. James’ solo ride was epic. Beautiful. 👌🏻

  • @nickt4731
    @nickt4731 Рік тому +48

    This is unacceptable. Maybe if McLaren did make some SUVs they would have some money for some okay quality control.

    • @MrMlbfan6
      @MrMlbfan6 Рік тому +4

      Not really lol

    • @АртемПрохоров-Лукин
      @АртемПрохоров-Лукин Рік тому +5

      What are you talking about?? British car manufactures has never ever was friends with word *reliability*. If Mclaren ever build an SUV,than it's still will be with poor quality and reliability issues. Mclaren is British,what else you can expect from them?🤣🤣Love the F1 tho))🙃

    • @nickt4731
      @nickt4731 Рік тому +3

      I understand we're both of you are saying truly I do. But McLaren seems to be especially bad when it comes to reliability and problems. And dealing with those problems. Jay Emm on cars made several videos about several poor experiences dealing with McLaren. As consumers who are spending such a large amount of money on cars, people should demand better. A car that costs 1/15 as much should not be better put together, and I'm not sure why people make excuses for them.

    • @dengernoodle4391
      @dengernoodle4391 Рік тому +2

      Maybe they should make physical buttons so you don’t lose everything at once when the infotainment overheats

    • @MLHunt
      @MLHunt Рік тому +1

      Land Rover resents your comment

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider Рік тому +1

    17:00 i love this rant. But I love Jaguars, Aston Martins, Lotuses, and McLarens more. But then again, you are right about the build quality.

  • @Smilingpolitely553
    @Smilingpolitely553 Рік тому +51

    Funny how much hate the new NSX got and now everyone is copying their homework

    • @dengernoodle4391
      @dengernoodle4391 Рік тому +6

      Like how the NSX was copying the p1’s homework?

    • @pistonburner6448
      @pistonburner6448 Рік тому +8

      No-one is copying NSX, and the NSX was criticised for very good reason.

    • @GVIrish
      @GVIrish Рік тому +10

      The NSX weighed 600 lbs more than this car and had 3 motors to the Artura's one. McLaren (and Ferrari) recognized that extra motors and electric thrust aren't worth the weight penalty, they definitely did not follow Honda's lead. They already understood before the NSX even got launched.

    • @kraenk12
      @kraenk12 Рік тому +3

      The NSX was criticised for being no NSX.

    • @Smilingpolitely553
      @Smilingpolitely553 Рік тому

      Fair but also in a completely different class of car.

  • @m0e87
    @m0e87 Рік тому

    What an amazing video, well done!!! Videography, sound,.... Top notch!

  • @Luke-cb3ly
    @Luke-cb3ly Рік тому +14

    the reason people say the Artura doesn't compete with the 296 is because the 296 is way more expensive, and it's faster than the 765LT in the 1/4 mile or a rolling race. if the 296GTB is faster than the 765LT it means the performance difference between the 296 and the Artura is huge, so they aren't even in the same category

    • @dhanu_4539
      @dhanu_4539 Рік тому +1

      I don't know, you could say it's a budget 296. Speed isn't everything and both of them are next generation hybrid supercars. I think this could give the 296 a run for it's money but not with these kinds of reliability issues. Anyways I prefer the 296 it looks much more special than this generic McLaren look

    • @chisomezekude9977
      @chisomezekude9977 Рік тому

      It’s not about the speed now it’s the driver engagement. The depth of it is crazy

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 Рік тому +1

      @@dhanu_4539 anything beyond 600hp is more then fast enough to be honest you would get more pleasure from handaling and engagement the artura is a great car but the reliability issue really needs to get solve it gets old real quick when your ac or sound system dont work of you dont get acess to your cluster or the hybrid system just decide to shit the bed when your out around town driving your brand spanking new supercar.

    • @dc-fc7tp
      @dc-fc7tp Рік тому +1

      imo it competes with the mc-20 both v6 in the same price bracket.

    • @dhanu_4539
      @dhanu_4539 Рік тому

      @@dc-fc7tp the MC 20 is old fashioned even for previous generation cars. It's a different category because it's a different kind of driving experience not because of the price or the engine. And I'm not saying the MC 20 is bad, if you buy a hybrid super car you'll be dealing with much higher repair and maintenance costs compared something like the MC 20

  • @krabo83
    @krabo83 Рік тому +1

    that intro was just brilliant! you guy's are the PR-departments worst nightmare... keep up the great and honest reviews.

  • @arierickson6137
    @arierickson6137 Рік тому +6

    I wonder if that 671 hp figure is like a "gentlemen's agreement" type deal of some sort. Or maybe it's high enough a number for the lower model cars to sound wildly impressive but low enough that 700+ sounds absolutely unbelievable. Idk but that's odd.

    • @ralfrudi3963
      @ralfrudi3963 Рік тому +3

      671 bhp is just an odd number in the imperial system. 671 bhp is about 680 metric horsepower (yes, there is a tiny difference) and about 500 kW, which is the unit most likely to be used by the engineers. So they went for a nice round number in 500 kW and then the marketing department has to convert it to the odd 671 bhp.

    • @AbrahamArthemius
      @AbrahamArthemius Рік тому +2

      It's just the converted number from 500kW. Nothing special about honestly.

    • @arierickson6137
      @arierickson6137 Рік тому

      @@ralfrudi3963 ohhhh ok I see I didn't realize that! Thanks for clarifying! :)

    • @baoquoc3710
      @baoquoc3710 Рік тому

      it's now feel like the Japanese gentleman's 276HP standard all over again, just now had been raised accordingly

    • @arierickson6137
      @arierickson6137 Рік тому

      @@baoquoc3710 yea that's kinda what I'm saying like I'm understanding the 500 kw conversion now that it was explained but why are most cars making 500 kw?! I think it might just be an industry thing where nobody wants to set the power precedent for their brand so high that they can't reach it with all their models.

  • @sgttomas
    @sgttomas Рік тому +1

    Absolutely EPIC into!!! Glad to see your ambitions taking shape 😊

  • @johnnyxp64
    @johnnyxp64 Рік тому +8

    Policeman: sir i pulled you over because you were speeding do you know how fast you were going?
    McLaren owners: no idea officer if you could tell me would appreciate it by screens are off again can't see a dm thing 😂

  • @avgneeraj
    @avgneeraj Рік тому

    i've always loved cars
    your videos are really awesome
    and honestly i've never truly felt the great sense of majestic, presence, the attraction to a car from any videos except your videos. The production quality is unmatched and is very very clear you guys put a lot of efforts into making these videos
    keep up with the amazing work you do!

  • @jansvoboda3954
    @jansvoboda3954 Рік тому +14

    Pretty sure you guys have more quality control on these videos than McLaren on their cars.

  • @zandarz229
    @zandarz229 Рік тому

    Whenever my interest spikes in a car, TH just releases a video about it. The timing IS PERFECT

  • @xxpforgie
    @xxpforgie Рік тому +4

    You guys never dissapoint😂

  • @bluesky9093
    @bluesky9093 Рік тому

    Sorry guys but there are plenty of cars out there which offer an equal or better driving experience, and their infotainment systems don’t overheat, nor do they squeak and drop screws in your hands. McLaren should be embarrassed. Think of it this way, I absolutely appreciate the filming quality and content of your videos, you guys would never accept choppy scene chages, poor sound, etc. That’s how I look at the McLaren, they know they can do better and should. Keep up the great works guys, proud that you are two blokes from Canada making a name for yourself.

    • @tagtag-connected5263
      @tagtag-connected5263 5 місяців тому

      Name which cars you can get for this level of performance and are we talking steering feel, weight, price and performance (straight line speeds plus cornering speeds), usability,etc. Reliability is the Achilles hell of the McLaren

  • @phillipthomas118
    @phillipthomas118 Рік тому +5

    😂 great intro😂 beautiful car but I’ll pass if it has that many issues.

    • @khoanguyen1176
      @khoanguyen1176 Рік тому

      You would still pass if it didnt have any issues.

  • @MH3914
    @MH3914 Рік тому

    Man you guys are absolutely killing it with the filming quality. This is prime Top Gear style content!!!

  • @OPC249
    @OPC249 Рік тому +4

    "It's the for McLaren experience" 😂

  • @lasseblomqvist9378
    @lasseblomqvist9378 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for yet another epic review. 🙏
    Just watched the launch event for the new Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale. What a beautiful vehicle. They talked a lot about the importance of dreaming at the event and the dream that instantly popped up in my head was not to drive it myself, but for you guys, the Throttle House team, to come here to Europe and review that amazing piece of machinery on some twisty Italian roads. That is how close to the heart your reviews have become. ❤

  • @Drew_Koch
    @Drew_Koch Рік тому +3

    Wonderful review as always. Stupid tech for tech/cheapness sake. I hate it so much. I didn't even think about the fact that the displays could potentially overheat and shutoff. HVAC controls absolutely should be a physical control. Even the interface, why swipe up? Why can't you just touch it? Completely diverts the driver's attention from driving. And yes, those thick bezels look terrible.

  • @homefish2031
    @homefish2031 Рік тому +1

    What an amazing video you guys do such a good job at actually capturing the essence of every car without sounding like the pamphlet from the factory. Also I love the Delta Integrale gauge on Thomas's shirt

  • @geoffreycarter3981
    @geoffreycarter3981 Рік тому +3

    Can all the UA-camrs, or anybody else who has sway with big car manufacturers please come together and make the biggest stink ever about the terrible idea that touchscreens and infotainment systems are in cars. Nobody, I repeat nobody, likes to take 33 menus to turn the fan speed down. It’s dangerous, and it’s completely asinine.

  • @DonBarracuda117
    @DonBarracuda117 Рік тому +1

    The perfect imperfect car
    Irony, I own a Vauxhall VXR, the Ricardo seats will all squeek when I drive over a leaf, something in the dash is rattling, just the other day I found a screw in the footwell, no clue where it came from but I love it.

  • @EdSalyards
    @EdSalyards Рік тому +8

    Beautiful car. No way I'd take this over a Turbo S. Reliability is just not there in this vehicle. I would take the Lotus over this as well just for the manual engagement. Still a very nice car.

    • @The_Lightless
      @The_Lightless Рік тому

      I mean the turbo S isn’t the most reliable car in the world either but it’s better than this lol

  • @SME5724
    @SME5724 Рік тому

    I love how popular, yet honest this Channel is !!