Moxie also said in the first episode that children deserve a chance at a normal life, despite the fact that their parents turned them into monsters, and this applies to himself, since his father forced him to work for the mafia
@@masterelight8172 I mean you have a lot of characters who are really good that by our standards deserve to be in heaven but they belong to hell because they were born there and are descendants of demons (so demons themselves). Helluva Boss has already shown a really bad side to heaven with the angels in season 1. First, you could dismiss the angel's behavior and attitude as an individual problem to them but then you see the hypocritical side of heaven when they try to come back after failing their mission and being rejected and essentially kicked out. So if Heaven in Helluva Boss has such a hypocritical side, the demons who are really good just fit in Hell because they can allow themselves to live the way they want. So Moxie and the other characters simply have their own freedom in a way.
@@jennydonelly8261 Yeah. The sinners of Hell were sent there because of the crimes and sins they committed, while demons like imps and hellhounds were there simply there since their birth. In the beginning of the show, we expected all imps/hellhounds to be as bad as sinners, if not worse. But, in actuality, they could have some [redeeming?] qualities that could separate them from the defined word of "bad" or shown more as good people (to some form of extent, not completely good but not bad, either). Does that necessarily excuse their behavior? (Answering anyone that'd go 'Oh, but the characters in the show are imps, and they do terrible things') No, it wouldn't be excusable [for the characters in the show]. (Sorry if this sounds like ranting. It's just an interesting topic I like to discuss about; how the life of those in Hell and how they arrive in Hell in the first place. It's not something important for the show HH, but more so for HB if this would be taken more into depth.)
@@jennydonelly8261 They were rejected not because they failed the mission, but because they were responsible for the old guy's death. They were wreckless and caused a death they were trying to prevent. On a person who had decided that they wanted to live after all. They effectively committed murder. Additionally, one has to remember what a demon is. Demons are the angels that sided with Lucifer against God and were stripped of their angelic standing and cast into Hell as punishment. Additionally, this cherub group seems to be rather young and thus probably inexperienced. They might not be trained for any sort of diplomacy with demonic forces. Chances are that a higher ranking, more seasoned angel would be less inclined to simply provoke the imps, having more of an idea where that might lead. But, this is conjecture, until we find out one way or another.
that robit was literelly a Robo-Mammon! same laugh, same smile, same eyes, even his arms look like Mammon's tounge! he just used Fizzarolli's likeness to make a robotic version of himself and throw it in his ripoff theme park
@@NoirRaven no, it's because the Robotic Fizzarolli in Loo Loo Land is less of a Robo-Fizz and more of a Robo-Mammon. they have the same smile, the same laugh, dollar sign imagery and Robo-Fizz's limbs even look like Mammon's tounge
The fact blitzø doesnt shoot the creep because he notices fizz having a panic attack and the loud noise wouldve thrown fizz deeper into just shows that blitzø is trying to change and actually shows he cares makes my cold heart feel warm
ALSO at 13:09, if you notice Fizz is grabbing his neck thing, that’s where his microphone is usually hidden when he works at Ozzies! It makes him realize he doesn’t have the same security as he does with Asmodeus which I think contributes to the panic.
@@Sweetie.21 dissociative identity disorder fakers frothing at the mouth trying to interact with someone without ensuring everyone knows they’re faking a disorder
Also, the fact extra foreshadowing was given on the circus burning down, due to Wally being the person Blitzø shoved out the way, and in Loo Loo Land, Wally having the inconvenient torches.
@@Jessebonnie Pretty sure someone said it was Wally! But, they might've changed it in the Mammon episode due to the stretching thing, although they do look older in the flashback, so who knows.
I'm not so sure that's Wally. A lot of characters seem to have similar hairstyles between childhood and adulthood, and Wally's hair is considerably shorter than the imp being shoved. They horns also look quite different, and I don't think they'd change that much from teenhood to adulthood. Meanwhile, in S2E7, we see a kid who has the same haircut and exact same horns as the Wally we know in the current timeline, which makes it much more likely to be him as a kid.
@@kariissmol9172 I really don't think that Crimm was a bad guy, he was just raising Moxxie to join the mafia which was probably how he was raised himself
@Xeorboom contradicting yourself. Mox is an example of someonr being raised into something, and diverting from the path. Just because crimson may have been raised that way, doesn't make him a good, or even *okay* guy. He's still a bad guy.
the scene where moxxie pushes the cinderblock is brutal, but if you pay close attention it's not his mother he pushes overboard, its a male imp, you can tell by the horns, so while his mother did get tossed moxxie himself didnt do it. I suspect it happened earlier. Also, i'm fairly sure i saw his mother's horns on the wall behind crimson before the flashback.
Exactly, it’s like the misconception I’ve heard the most in the fandom. The amount of times I keep trying to comment to tell people it’s NOT her because the imp doesn’t have her horns, legs, tail, or skin color is crazy
@@b4b_lovely337It wasn’t staged, because Moxxie knew the guy he killed wasn’t his mother, because he knows what his own mother looks and sounds like. He did see the shoe at the end in the water tho from when Crim had killed her earlier, do you mean that was staged?
I love this video, some of the foreshadowing are so smart, but there's also the scene in the first episode where Moxie says it would be ok to kill a mafia family, which obviously is a reference to his own family, great work compiling all of these though
@@pusheenqueen519well it's not confirmed that she DIED even though it's heavily implied, I'll just wait for confirmation that she died or for Crimm to admit to it
the only issue with this is that in harvest moon moxxie mentions being born in wrath??? even though??? ?????? so like maybe it wasn’t completelyyyyy planned
Most of these are better described as call backs, over foreshadowing. One really good bit of foreshadowing was Asmodeus Crystals being open when Stolas throws the book. He later goes and asks for them to solve the problem he's singing baout
@@howellaboutno9500 yeah, I was using that as an example of one of the things in the video that was foreshadowing. Sorry that wasn’t clear, I wrote the original comment when I was half asleep
A callback is a reference to something that already happened. Foreshadowing is a reference to something that will happen. It's not really a callback if it's the plot of an entire episode based on a throwaway line in a previous episode.
Here’s a fun “blink and you’ll miss it” moment”: in this scene 5:06, after robot Fizzarolli caught a bullet with his teeth, Blitz says “Ah, what a mouth” and then makes a face that says “Hold up”, as if what he said was so unexpectedly sus, he began to regret wording it that way
no it shook me to my core that I didn’t even notice the character designs of Fizz and Blitzo had intentional burn scars and Fizz had mechanical arms until the fire scene and they were not just cool character designs
Also, I don't know if it was intentional or not but when Robofizz is walking out of the fire at Loo Loo land, his face is burned the same way that Blitøs was in the original fire
It's moments like the "I DID CARE" scene that really reminds you what a good writer and actor Brandon Rogers is. His work such as Helluva boss and his channel is NOT for everyone, but underneath all the crassness there is some legitimately emotional writing.
I believe a lot of the emotional moments are Viv, because she seems to excel at those while Brandon is usually the one with the jokes and general crass vibe. It could he Brandon too. But either way, his vocal performance during that scene, and really many scenes with Blitzo was amazing. Almost made me cry during those scenes with Blitzo and Fizz
I mean, fizz teasing and insulting Blitzo the first time we saw him makes sense. He still wasn’t over their incident but now I’m starting to think Mammon and Ozzie might have made him more malicious towards him than the actual clown is
Probably more Mammon, then Ozzie, but I'm guessing that could totally be a reason, cus they do say in the ep, "They said you never wanted to see ME!" "Ohhh"
I only just noticed that when Blitzø is initially trying to shoot the mother through the window in episode one you can briefly see in the background a child’s head mounted on the wall. If Moxie had seen that then everything would have gone much smoother. A similarity to his family as well.
Reminder that according to the storyboards, the imp Blitzø bumps into holding the cake is Wally Wackford, meaning his Inconvenient Torches mishap is the second time he’s burned a circus (and by weird extension, Fizzarolli)
Fun fact: Stolas's song also references to Blitz's hallucination " Prince, All alone, upon your throne, your power is so frail," references to Stolas being on the throne at the top of the white staircase, it could mean that's how Blitz see's his perspective of Stolas being a Royal demon and being weighted under Stolas as just an item for him to enjoy " You raise your voice, you have no choice, inside your gilded jail," references to Blitz being binded up in chains and screaming while being covered and trapped in the golden feathers
Moxxie, in S1E1, says he'd understand if someone hired them to kill a shitty dad or a mob family, which could be foreshadowing his shitty mafia boss dad. Also, I saw somewhere that Wormhorse could be foreshadowing Fizzarolli losing his limbs, but don't want to believe that
@@TheOnlyAnimatorRecroomed that's what it says on the card Bitzø's dad gave Fizz, i'm talking about the one Blitzø is holding before not going in the tent
My favorite line of blitzøs that no one seems to notice is in ep 1 when missed with the gun and the wife shot a hole through the wall he yelled ‘a new hole!’ It had me dying
Apparently in S1E7 (Ozzie's), there's a shot where we see Stolas had the Ozzie meeting on his calendar before the date night, meaning the idea to meet with Ozzie foe the crystal before the night of Ozzie's, meaning he was already planning to signal to Blitzo that he wanted their relationship to be more than it was before he knew Blitzo was scared of the opposite
I'm just... holy shit, that trauma must have reocurred when blitz saw fizz (this time the robot) in a burning circus again... and he completely drowned it out eith violence ^^
Another piece of foreshadowing is when the picture of blitzø's family burns away. His mom's head is completely engulfed by flames while the rest of the fire tears blitzø and his sister away from each other
There is a lot of times Stolas’ song is used throughout the series. Mostly in scenes with Stolas. Also here 12:14 he says .gov, which means that hell has a government system.
It’s like an oligarchical dictatorship. The 7 deadly sins have control over their respective rings, with Lucifer having absolute control over them and all of hell collectively.
@@howellaboutno9500 and we already know what mox got in for, we just need to know what blitz got in for, prolly a charge for trying to access the human world without the proper ranking
one thing you missed was that the music that played when young blitzo and stolas were under the chandelier was the same music during the scene where blitz tells stolas they’re not a couple and drives off
I like to think that Moxxie’s mom is the one who hit Crim. And that is why Moxxie married a strong woman, because his mom was as physically strong as his father, just too kind to hurt anybody. Just a headcanon though.
I don't think so. Crimson is abusive, but his wife was gentler and kept Moxxie out of harms way. It is also implied Crim killed her. Although it might have been because she tried to stand up to him, you may have a point
I wouldn't really call most of this foreshadowing as much as placing easter eggs and backfilling the lore. Foreshadowing must be intentional at the time of writing, and I'm pretty sure about 70% of all of the S1 stuff wasn't that meticulously planned out until they'd had time to feel out the direction of the show.
Definitely a weird assumption, cause it’s obvious that a lot of this foreshadowing was REAL deliberate since the beginning of season 1. Loo Loo Land along makes it very clear how much was planned in advance for Stolas’ character and Blitz’ backstory with Fizz.
I wouldn't call Stolas's song foreshadowing as that's just his theme. I also wouldn't call anything in the trailer foreshadowing as it's showing you bits of what is going to be in the season.
In the pilot (yes I know it’s technically not canon anymore but I count this as canon since Moxxie does hate his family) when Blitzø asks “whacha dreamin about?” He answers “I was dreaming of my family being murdered, but now, I’d like to get back to that”
Angeldust speaking about an orphan without limbs in the pilot episode (during the limo drive, giving an example of a "sad thing") also kinda remembered me of Fizzy
And moxies phrase: “ maybe a shitty dad, or a mob family, that’s understandable” when they are talking about models of families that can be killed? Or the fact that robo fizz smile is the same mammon has in s2 ep 7?
Idk why but the boat scene was the first time Helluva Boss (or any other animated show for that matter) has ever made me feel genuine fear or sorrow. Like, I've seen Blitz and Fizz's circus accident and stuff from this show is supposed to make you feel those types of feelings but the boat scene felt so real and fear-inducing. It might have been the tone or the music or something but I remember when I watched the episode for the first time as part of a Helluva Boss Marathon with my friend, both of us actually had to take a break after this scene was done because we couldn't handle it and had to finish the episode later. That's good storytelling.
1:04 also earlier in the ep. when moxxie is doing target practice he says smt like- "I could understand is was a bad dad or a mob family. now that's understandable."
I don't think most of these are foreshadowing, more like a callback to a previous moment, or expanding on previously given details. The only one I could call foreshadowing is the Asmodeus crystal thing, cuz they intentionally dropped a hint with zero information on it and then took that detail into a future plot point (Which I still feel like has been underutilized and is probably going to continue to come up). Someone else mentioned Moxxies Mob Family comment in the pilot, which I could call foreshadowing (even though I don't know if they intended to write his backstory the way they did at that time, it's still a little unclear but it could definitely work as such). Everything here though... it's just basic worldbuilding.
and then the red horse jumped over the worm horse and makes him happy again. ... and then Blitzo like: nahh, there is blood everywhere! And I think it's just what both thought of the situation after Fizz lost his limbs. Fizz being actually happy as the green horse, and Blitz thinks like well when that red horse (him) does that, the worm horse (Fizz) will be hurt even more. Maybe.
It says Moxxie didn't want to kill a mother. I don't even think the person he drowned was his mother. Different horns and different voice. Crimson probably killed her not long before this guy's execution.
My favorite so far is how In seeing stars(idk if that's the name but I believe so) when loona asks "what the f is that" Blitzo says: "my acting career" probably referring to his circus career Ending up with firework's making boom
You should retitle this to references, because most of this does not fit the definition of "foreshadowing": "A literary device in which an author drops subtle hints about plot developments to come later in the story". Moxxie's reaction to having to kill a mother is a perfect example of foreshadowing. #1 is a call-back, not foreshadowing. #2 is just information not foreshadowing anything. #3 IS foreshadowing. #4 is additional context. #5 is foreshadowing if you cut out the random mention of it at Ozzie's club. That clip is a call-back, but the amusement park catching on fire IS foreshadowing the circus fire reveal. #6 is a cameo. #7 is just his theme. #8 Not sure if this counts as foreshadowing or an outright statement of what's going to happen next. There's a lot of focus on it, which diminishes its potential as foreshadowing. #9 Could be foreshadowing, or it could just be an early example of a prominent character trait. I'm leaning towards the latter. #10 Again not sure if this counts as foreshadowing or a teaser, since it's not actually in the show.
And a TRUE example of foreshadowing would be the Loo Loo Land episode where Wally burned up the circus and Blitz and Robo Fizz are in the same exact situation. Robo Fizz gets burned in the explosion from the fire and Blitz made it out alive just like what happened with Teen Blitz and Teen Fizz when their circus were on fire and Fizz lost all his limbs and Blitz made it out alive. I agree, recalling events isn't foreshadowing
The imps tend to reflect the rings they were born in, with some exceptions like Moxie. I have a theory that Blitz was born in the envy or pride ring. But he does have a lot more envy in him, he's envious of others love relationships. But at the same time he can be quite prideful
The scene at 2:35 is so sad & depressing to me bc Crimson manipulated Moxxie to kill his own mother. Seriously tho, i hope Crimson ends up in *TRIPLE* hell like Valentino
Honestly, Blitzo's 'Killing a mother/ruining a family' line in ep1 is more foreshadowing HIS OWN backstory. Also, between that and Moxxie's own 'Maybe a shitty dad or a mob family' line, does anyone else feel like Loona's rather specific spiel about the shitty family (particularly the kid setting dogs on fire) is hinting at HER backstory/horrible trauma?
Just fyi moxie as a child was not forced to kill his own mother that demon he pushed into the lake was just a random shmuk who crossed crimson and before your two braincells say "bUt hEr bOoT fLoAtS uP tO tHe sUrFaCe" that was just for dramatic effect to show that crimson had killed all these people himself INCLUDING moxies mother
Idk if this counts, but, Blitzø's dad selling him for money, and Mammon wanting money, Mammon even has little "$" signs on the ends of his jester hat thing...
There’s also the fact in the first episode that Moxxie wouldn’t kill a family unless it’s a mafia family which would be understandable. Moxxie comes from a mafia family
Also the whole pirates, blood thing while fizz is playing with blitzo when they where kids foreshadows that fizz is uncomfortable with blood also foreshadowing why blizo didnt just shoot the creepy guy when fizz was about to have a panic attack
7:44 I wouldn’t call that foreshadowing lol, that’s just Stolas’ musical motif. It just plays when he’s on screen to give him a musical profile rather that to foreshadow some big event or anything
At 4:41 you can also see a poster for Fizz sex bots advertising various features such as "real tentacle action" "ten speed vibration" and "machine washable". Right after that at 4:45 there are more posters for robofizz plus a poster for Mammon Cola and a disclaimer that lulu land is not lulu world which is lucifers Theme Park.
It's because Moxx is a helluva marksman that he's always able to take his target out from a distance so he never had to build up any physical strength (the fights with Stryker are proof of that).
Most of that is not foreshadowing, just a story making sense between episodes. Foreshadowing is a discrete hint, not a whole scene. Also the "same imp" is someone from the animation team, just a recurring cameo and not even the only one. The music from the trailer is a teaser The asmodean crystal is foreshadowing. Moxxie saying "maybe like a sh*tty dad or a mob family" was foreshadowing Robo Fizz and Blitzø, interactions in LooLooLand were foreshadowing about Blitzø's relationship with Fizz. Octavia's line about Lulu World could be a form of foreshadowing for Hazbin Hotel IF they use the theme park in a way making it foreshadowing, not just worldbuilding exposition and Mammon characterization And if you're wondering, Stella saying to Stolas she knows he'll pay is not foreshadowing, it's dramatic irony cause Stolas doesn't know what she's talking about while the viewer already knows she hired Striker, it's just saying she planned something soon
The thing is though.. not only was moxxie's mother's tail not striped, the person who moxxie pushed off the boat was a guy, indicated by the horns. I don't think it was actually his mother, but his father made it seem that was to intimidate him.
Another thing I would say is foreshadowing is in the Robo-Fizzie ad Mammon steps on the fluffy toy fizzie which happens again to Fizz in the 2-Minutes Notice song and also probably hints at Mammon being abusive
The first scene (loo loo land too) wasnt really foreshadowing and was moreso a reference/callback to the pilot but otherwise, a lot of these are super thought out!!
Something heartbreaking that i just noticed is at 2:54 , although its muffled, it sounds like Moxxie's assumed to be mother is trying to say "I love you."
Just wanted to share that I spent at least 3 mindless hours today scanning documents at work while “got the book, got the book, got this heavy fuckin book” ran through my head repeatedly in Blitzø’s voice
I haven’t seen you since my Haikyuu Text phase 😭
OMG HEYYY
I didn't expect anyone from the haikyuu text phase to be here!
real
@@eugenetheinfp5402WAIT THAT WAS YOU?
Omg same
NAUR
dont haunt ppl with their past
Moxie also said in the first episode that children deserve a chance at a normal life, despite the fact that their parents turned them into monsters, and this applies to himself, since his father forced him to work for the mafia
Have to wonder if Moxie belongs in hell sometimes. Blitzo on the other hand!
@@masterelight8172 I mean you have a lot of characters who are really good that by our standards deserve to be in heaven but they belong to hell because they were born there and are descendants of demons (so demons themselves). Helluva Boss has already shown a really bad side to heaven with the angels in season 1. First, you could dismiss the angel's behavior and attitude as an individual problem to them but then you see the hypocritical side of heaven when they try to come back after failing their mission and being rejected and essentially kicked out. So if Heaven in Helluva Boss has such a hypocritical side, the demons who are really good just fit in Hell because they can allow themselves to live the way they want.
So Moxie and the other characters simply have their own freedom in a way.
@@jennydonelly8261 Yeah.
The sinners of Hell were sent there because of the crimes and sins they committed, while demons like imps and hellhounds were there simply there since their birth.
In the beginning of the show, we expected all imps/hellhounds to be as bad as sinners, if not worse. But, in actuality, they could have some [redeeming?] qualities that could separate them from the defined word of "bad" or shown more as good people (to some form of extent, not completely good but not bad, either).
Does that necessarily excuse their behavior? (Answering anyone that'd go 'Oh, but the characters in the show are imps, and they do terrible things') No, it wouldn't be excusable [for the characters in the show].
(Sorry if this sounds like ranting. It's just an interesting topic I like to discuss about; how the life of those in Hell and how they arrive in Hell in the first place. It's not something important for the show HH, but more so for HB if this would be taken more into depth.)
Yeah that's right... rip moxxie
@@jennydonelly8261 They were rejected not because they failed the mission, but because they were responsible for the old guy's death. They were wreckless and caused a death they were trying to prevent. On a person who had decided that they wanted to live after all. They effectively committed murder. Additionally, one has to remember what a demon is. Demons are the angels that sided with Lucifer against God and were stripped of their angelic standing and cast into Hell as punishment. Additionally, this cherub group seems to be rather young and thus probably inexperienced. They might not be trained for any sort of diplomacy with demonic forces. Chances are that a higher ranking, more seasoned angel would be less inclined to simply provoke the imps, having more of an idea where that might lead. But, this is conjecture, until we find out one way or another.
That Robo Fizz was so unhinged and violent, unlike the actual Fizz who prefer to avoid conflicts
i wonder if the reason for the robots aggression is because of mammons influence
@@_peepee_ Could be that, could not. We might never know.
that robit was literelly a Robo-Mammon!
same laugh, same smile, same eyes, even his arms look like Mammon's tounge!
he just used Fizzarolli's likeness to make a robotic version of himself and throw it in his ripoff theme park
Yeah it's called a retcon. 🤦♀️
@@NoirRaven no, it's because the Robotic Fizzarolli in Loo Loo Land is less of a Robo-Fizz and more of a Robo-Mammon.
they have the same smile, the same laugh, dollar sign imagery and Robo-Fizz's limbs even look like Mammon's tounge
Fun fact: The worm horse that Blitzø made in S2E1 was a foreshadowing to Fizzarolli losing his limbs during the fire.
You mispelled "Great Pirate War", don't you remember how valiantly Fizz battled?
YES, I was waiting for someone to point that out
I didn’t know that thanks for the fact😅
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhĥhhhhhhhh.......
Oh SHIT!!
Even with the color schemes: the red horse with the limbs is red like blitz, and the limbless horse is green, fizz has a greenish/cold colored theme
The fact blitzø doesnt shoot the creep because he notices fizz having a panic attack and the loud noise wouldve thrown fizz deeper into just shows that blitzø is trying to change and actually shows he cares makes my cold heart feel warm
That makes so much sense-
Fizz dont like blood is also one of the reasons it is foreshadowed in the Great Pirate War
I️ think it’s really sweet that he’s trying to make it up to Fizz and make up for 15 years of friendship
Blitzo is way kinder than people think
ALSO at 13:09, if you notice Fizz is grabbing his neck thing, that’s where his microphone is usually hidden when he works at Ozzies! It makes him realize he doesn’t have the same security as he does with Asmodeus which I think contributes to the panic.
Ooooh that makes a lot of sense
Omg that’s such a good detail, thank you
oh my gosh that just makes this even more sad man fjshfgsjfsf
Yeah, I noticed that too.
- Fizz (he/they/it)
Helios (he/she/bunself, co-fronting)
@@Sweetie.21 dissociative identity disorder fakers frothing at the mouth trying to interact with someone without ensuring everyone knows they’re faking a disorder
Also, the fact extra foreshadowing was given on the circus burning down, due to Wally being the person Blitzø shoved out the way, and in Loo Loo Land, Wally having the inconvenient torches.
i say i say
That wasn't Wally actually, when Wally was a kid he had glasses but he wasn't a teen so it's not him Blitz pushed him out of the way of.
@@Jessebonnie Pretty sure someone said it was Wally! But, they might've changed it in the Mammon episode due to the stretching thing, although they do look older in the flashback, so who knows.
I'm not so sure that's Wally. A lot of characters seem to have similar hairstyles between childhood and adulthood, and Wally's hair is considerably shorter than the imp being shoved. They horns also look quite different, and I don't think they'd change that much from teenhood to adulthood.
Meanwhile, in S2E7, we see a kid who has the same haircut and exact same horns as the Wally we know in the current timeline, which makes it much more likely to be him as a kid.
@@Arequiral They (Wally and cake guy) don't even have the same horns, though.
I feel like someday moxies gonna kill crimson in a crimson way and crimsons gonna say “that’s ma boy”
I have a feeling that Mammon (since he's in the Greed Ring) will kill him after he tries to face him since Crimm has no respect for the hierarchy
OMG i was thinking the same thing
Paternal recognition after 20+ years of abuse must give a LOT of story fodder. Therapy arc when
@@kariissmol9172 I really don't think that Crimm was a bad guy, he was just raising Moxxie to join the mafia which was probably how he was raised himself
@Xeorboom contradicting yourself. Mox is an example of someonr being raised into something, and diverting from the path. Just because crimson may have been raised that way, doesn't make him a good, or even *okay* guy. He's still a bad guy.
the scene where moxxie pushes the cinderblock is brutal, but if you pay close attention it's not his mother he pushes overboard, its a male imp, you can tell by the horns, so while his mother did get tossed moxxie himself didnt do it. I suspect it happened earlier. Also, i'm fairly sure i saw his mother's horns on the wall behind crimson before the flashback.
Maybe it was staged and his mother was forced to flee and maybe somewhere out there she's still alive.
@@b4b_lovely337 i like it, but i feel it might be too much of a happy ending for this show.
Exactly, it’s like the misconception I’ve heard the most in the fandom. The amount of times I keep trying to comment to tell people it’s NOT her because the imp doesn’t have her horns, legs, tail, or skin color is crazy
@@b4b_lovely337It wasn’t staged, because Moxxie knew the guy he killed wasn’t his mother, because he knows what his own mother looks and sounds like. He did see the shoe at the end in the water tho from when Crim had killed her earlier, do you mean that was staged?
@@jjsstikbotvideos4421 i mean the skin color and tail were similar so i can see how there are some people who might think it was his mother.
Bruh why did you skip that part where Moxxie said "Shitty dad or a mob family"
"that's understanderable"
Yeah like his own
I love this video, some of the foreshadowing are so smart, but there's also the scene in the first episode where Moxie says it would be ok to kill a mafia family, which obviously is a reference to his own family, great work compiling all of these though
I was rewatching the first episode and knowing now that moxiie's mother got killed by his father made my jaw drop at the connection
@@pusheenqueen519well it's not confirmed that she DIED even though it's heavily implied, I'll just wait for confirmation that she died or for Crimm to admit to it
He also mentions a shitty father
i feel like they wouldnt have her heel or what ever in the water for no reason @@Xeorboom
the only issue with this is that in harvest moon moxxie mentions being born in wrath??? even though??? ??????
so like maybe it wasn’t completelyyyyy planned
Most of these are better described as call backs, over foreshadowing. One really good bit of foreshadowing was Asmodeus Crystals being open when Stolas throws the book. He later goes and asks for them to solve the problem he's singing baout
Yes. A call back and foreshadowing are very different. AND a trailer for a thing isn't foreshadowing by any measure.
exactly what i was thinking.
That was literally in the video though lol
@@howellaboutno9500 yeah, I was using that as an example of one of the things in the video that was foreshadowing. Sorry that wasn’t clear, I wrote the original comment when I was half asleep
A callback is a reference to something that already happened. Foreshadowing is a reference to something that will happen. It's not really a callback if it's the plot of an entire episode based on a throwaway line in a previous episode.
Here’s a fun “blink and you’ll miss it” moment”: in this scene 5:06, after robot Fizzarolli caught a bullet with his teeth, Blitz says “Ah, what a mouth” and then makes a face that says “Hold up”, as if what he said was so unexpectedly sus, he began to regret wording it that way
or maybe he actually fucked a robotic version of the king of greed that uses his past friend's likeness?
That is not a blink and you'll miss it moment thats a pretty obvious scene lmao blitzø is literally the focus of that scene lmao
I think he's alarmed at robofizz coming at him to attack, not at his own words
@@myrap3nah cuz he looked away in a suspicious manner
@b0xlunc oh I see, right before robofizz lunges at him
no it shook me to my core that I didn’t even notice the character designs of Fizz and Blitzo had intentional burn scars and Fizz had mechanical arms until the fire scene and they were not just cool character designs
Also, I don't know if it was intentional or not but when Robofizz is walking out of the fire at Loo Loo land, his face is burned the same way that Blitøs was in the original fire
It's moments like the "I DID CARE" scene that really reminds you what a good writer and actor Brandon Rogers is. His work such as Helluva boss and his channel is NOT for everyone, but underneath all the crassness there is some legitimately emotional writing.
I believe a lot of the emotional moments are Viv, because she seems to excel at those while Brandon is usually the one with the jokes and general crass vibe. It could he Brandon too. But either way, his vocal performance during that scene, and really many scenes with Blitzo was amazing. Almost made me cry during those scenes with Blitzo and Fizz
In S1E1, when Stolas is on the phone with Blitz, you can hear the same "Stolas' theme". It's a subtle tone, but if you listen enough you can hear it.
it's Stolas' theme
@@Xeorboom Sorry. Thanks.
@@random_guy_webisodes I mean the whole piece of music is Stolas' theme music
ok ty, i didnt get it before and now i do!
you can actually hear it in a lot of other stolas moments !
I mean, fizz teasing and insulting Blitzo the first time we saw him makes sense. He still wasn’t over their incident but now I’m starting to think Mammon and Ozzie might have made him more malicious towards him than the actual clown is
Probably more Mammon, then Ozzie, but I'm guessing that could totally be a reason, cus they do say in the ep, "They said you never wanted to see ME!"
"Ohhh"
I only just noticed that when Blitzø is initially trying to shoot the mother through the window in episode one you can briefly see in the background a child’s head mounted on the wall. If Moxie had seen that then everything would have gone much smoother. A similarity to his family as well.
That and the fact that there is an extra chair 💀
Oh shit nvm thats AN URN IN A WHEELCHAIR
And the picture frames made of bones. And the human spine lamp.
Reminder that according to the storyboards, the imp Blitzø bumps into holding the cake is Wally Wackford, meaning his Inconvenient Torches mishap is the second time he’s burned a circus (and by weird extension, Fizzarolli)
Everyone blaming Blitzo but I think this guy just has a problem of always being careless with fire 💀
Fun fact: Stolas's song also references to Blitz's hallucination
" Prince, All alone, upon your throne, your power is so frail," references to Stolas being on the throne at the top of the white staircase, it could mean that's how Blitz see's his perspective of Stolas being a Royal demon and being weighted under Stolas as just an item for him to enjoy
" You raise your voice, you have no choice, inside your gilded jail," references to Blitz being binded up in chains and screaming while being covered and trapped in the golden feathers
I like the detail of Fizz wrapping his tail around himself to feel safer when he feels extremely uncomfortable at 10:49 and again at 12:17.
Moxxie, in S1E1, says he'd understand if someone hired them to kill a shitty dad or a mob family, which could be foreshadowing his shitty mafia boss dad.
Also, I saw somewhere that Wormhorse could be foreshadowing Fizzarolli losing his limbs, but don't want to believe that
I wanna belive that tho
If you pause it exactly at 7:05 you can see that blitzø had a love letter for fizz so this whole time blitzø just had a crush on fizz
Yes
Interesting leap, it could have been a birthday card you know.
@@leephillips4402 it could, but it has a heart and "for Fizz eyes only" on it which feels very love letter like to me
@@soneataverneur7888someone said it says wish you were my son
@@TheOnlyAnimatorRecroomed that's what it says on the card Bitzø's dad gave Fizz, i'm talking about the one Blitzø is holding before not going in the tent
My favorite line of blitzøs that no one seems to notice is in ep 1 when missed with the gun and the wife shot a hole through the wall he yelled ‘a new hole!’ It had me dying
It shoots through his arm, which is why he says it. He gets ‘a new hole’.
Apparently in S1E7 (Ozzie's), there's a shot where we see Stolas had the Ozzie meeting on his calendar before the date night, meaning the idea to meet with Ozzie foe the crystal before the night of Ozzie's, meaning he was already planning to signal to Blitzo that he wanted their relationship to be more than it was before he knew Blitzo was scared of the opposite
If I had a quarter for every time Blitzø burned down a circus, I’d have two quarters. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice.
I'm just... holy shit, that trauma must have reocurred when blitz saw fizz (this time the robot) in a burning circus again... and he completely drowned it out eith violence ^^
Another piece of foreshadowing is when the picture of blitzø's family burns away. His mom's head is completely engulfed by flames while the rest of the fire tears blitzø and his sister away from each other
One thing i love about mammon is how he just woddles to the camera sometimes 😂
It’s pretty impressive how well each little bit connects to other later episodes, even if it’s something super small
Indeed
There is a lot of times Stolas’ song is used throughout the series. Mostly in scenes with Stolas.
Also here 12:14 he says .gov, which means that hell has a government system.
It’s like an oligarchical dictatorship. The 7 deadly sins have control over their respective rings, with Lucifer having absolute control over them and all of hell collectively.
Well yeah we’ve seen Moxxie in Blitzo in jail
@@howellaboutno9500 and we already know what mox got in for, we just need to know what blitz got in for, prolly a charge for trying to access the human world without the proper ranking
HOW DOES HE HAVE A GOVERNMENT WEBSITE
i thought i was so smart for knowing that EVERY SINGLE TIME stolas shows up the same background song plays either super loud or quiet
one thing you missed was that the music that played when young blitzo and stolas were under the chandelier was the same music during the scene where blitz tells stolas they’re not a couple and drives off
I like to think that Moxxie’s mom is the one who hit Crim. And that is why Moxxie married a strong woman, because his mom was as physically strong as his father, just too kind to hurt anybody. Just a headcanon though.
I don't think so. Crimson is abusive, but his wife was gentler and kept Moxxie out of harms way.
It is also implied Crim killed her. Although it might have been because she tried to stand up to him, you may have a point
I wouldn't really call most of this foreshadowing as much as placing easter eggs and backfilling the lore. Foreshadowing must be intentional at the time of writing, and I'm pretty sure about 70% of all of the S1 stuff wasn't that meticulously planned out until they'd had time to feel out the direction of the show.
Viv has had seasons 1, 2 and 3 planned since the Pilot
Definitely a weird assumption, cause it’s obvious that a lot of this foreshadowing was REAL deliberate since the beginning of season 1. Loo Loo Land along makes it very clear how much was planned in advance for Stolas’ character and Blitz’ backstory with Fizz.
Moxie foreshadowed his dad in the pilot.
Crimm has been foreshadowed from the early design sketches
I wouldn't call Stolas's song foreshadowing as that's just his theme. I also wouldn't call anything in the trailer foreshadowing as it's showing you bits of what is going to be in the season.
7:14 when the scream of a woman was heard Blitz mouthed "Mom?" I just got that 😭😭💔💔
Wait that was who was in that picture oh no 😭😭😭😭
The fact that creep is still wears the same outfit and still remember him and blitzø is so fcking disgusting
In the pilot (yes I know it’s technically not canon anymore but I count this as canon since Moxxie does hate his family) when Blitzø asks “whacha dreamin about?” He answers “I was dreaming of my family being murdered, but now, I’d like to get back to that”
Can we just talk about that transition 8:19 it's some god level right here
What transition??
@@BritishXiaothe music perfectly syncs
@@BritishXiao transition from the music alone to the song
I KNEW that clown music sounded familiar!! I knew I’d heard it before! The trailer really stuck with me I guess
i love how almost everytime fizz moves you can hear the bells on his hat jingle, one of my favorite details in the show lol
Angeldust speaking about an orphan without limbs in the pilot episode (during the limo drive, giving an example of a "sad thing") also kinda remembered me of Fizzy
7:35 she is also in the audience when Fizz performs 2 MINUTES NOTICE.
And moxies phrase: “ maybe a shitty dad, or a mob family, that’s understandable” when they are talking about models of families that can be killed?
Or the fact that robo fizz smile is the same mammon has in s2 ep 7?
5:41 RIP Millie 🪦
Also, moxxie in s1 ep1 saying “I don’t want to kill anyone! Unless it’s a mafia father, that’s understandable.” Definitely foreshadowed his own family
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Idk why but the boat scene was the first time Helluva Boss (or any other animated show for that matter) has ever made me feel genuine fear or sorrow. Like, I've seen Blitz and Fizz's circus accident and stuff from this show is supposed to make you feel those types of feelings but the boat scene felt so real and fear-inducing. It might have been the tone or the music or something but I remember when I watched the episode for the first time as part of a Helluva Boss Marathon with my friend, both of us actually had to take a break after this scene was done because we couldn't handle it and had to finish the episode later. That's good storytelling.
Dangggg I didnt even realize the song for the S2 trailer was the same one the clown girls sing!!
How
@@dampsocc dropped as a child
1:04 also earlier in the ep. when moxxie is doing target practice he says smt like- "I could understand is was a bad dad or a mob family. now that's understandable."
I caught that too 😭😭
I don't think most of these are foreshadowing, more like a callback to a previous moment, or expanding on previously given details.
The only one I could call foreshadowing is the Asmodeus crystal thing, cuz they intentionally dropped a hint with zero information on it and then took that detail into a future plot point (Which I still feel like has been underutilized and is probably going to continue to come up). Someone else mentioned Moxxies Mob Family comment in the pilot, which I could call foreshadowing (even though I don't know if they intended to write his backstory the way they did at that time, it's still a little unclear but it could definitely work as such). Everything here though... it's just basic worldbuilding.
Another foreshadowing was in "The Circus"where Blitz plays with the horse with no arms and legs with Fizz(who suffered the same fate).
That horse was also green. The own fizz had was red
Dam fizz if the wormhorse in life
Is that where Blitzø s horse kink began🥲
and then the red horse jumped over the worm horse and makes him happy again. ... and then Blitzo like: nahh, there is blood everywhere!
And I think it's just what both thought of the situation after Fizz lost his limbs. Fizz being actually happy as the green horse, and Blitz thinks like well when that red horse (him) does that, the worm horse (Fizz) will be hurt even more. Maybe.
You can also hear Owl In A Cage in the first Helluva Boss episode when Stolas first makes an appearance.
Plus the Beezlejuice bottle that Verosika had and that Blitzø mentioned in that parking scene was a hint to Beezlebub
It says Moxxie didn't want to kill a mother. I don't even think the person he drowned was his mother. Different horns and different voice. Crimson probably killed her not long before this guy's execution.
Yes her clothes and shoes were dumped in the ocean
With stolas' song you can actually first hear it around 8:07 in Ep 1 of Season 1
My favorite so far is how In seeing stars(idk if that's the name but I believe so) when loona asks
"what the f is that"
Blitzo says: "my acting career" probably referring to his circus career Ending up with firework's making boom
You should retitle this to references, because most of this does not fit the definition of "foreshadowing": "A literary device in which an author drops subtle hints about plot developments to come later in the story". Moxxie's reaction to having to kill a mother is a perfect example of foreshadowing.
#1 is a call-back, not foreshadowing.
#2 is just information not foreshadowing anything.
#3 IS foreshadowing.
#4 is additional context.
#5 is foreshadowing if you cut out the random mention of it at Ozzie's club. That clip is a call-back, but the amusement park catching on fire IS foreshadowing the circus fire reveal.
#6 is a cameo.
#7 is just his theme.
#8 Not sure if this counts as foreshadowing or an outright statement of what's going to happen next. There's a lot of focus on it, which diminishes its potential as foreshadowing.
#9 Could be foreshadowing, or it could just be an early example of a prominent character trait. I'm leaning towards the latter.
#10 Again not sure if this counts as foreshadowing or a teaser, since it's not actually in the show.
And a TRUE example of foreshadowing would be the Loo Loo Land episode where Wally burned up the circus and Blitz and Robo Fizz are in the same exact situation. Robo Fizz gets burned in the explosion from the fire and Blitz made it out alive just like what happened with Teen Blitz and Teen Fizz when their circus were on fire and Fizz lost all his limbs and Blitz made it out alive. I agree, recalling events isn't foreshadowing
"We're just killing the mother" it's actually funny
The imps tend to reflect the rings they were born in, with some exceptions like Moxie. I have a theory that Blitz was born in the envy or pride ring. But he does have a lot more envy in him, he's envious of others love relationships. But at the same time he can be quite prideful
The scene at 2:35 is so sad & depressing to me bc Crimson manipulated Moxxie to kill his own mother. Seriously tho, i hope Crimson ends up in *TRIPLE* hell like Valentino
In case you don't know, there is a theory that says that's no his mom
@@yurigolden8028That's not a theory, it's obvious visual fact lol.
Millie just getting dragged off had me cracking up
Honestly, Blitzo's 'Killing a mother/ruining a family' line in ep1 is more foreshadowing HIS OWN backstory.
Also, between that and Moxxie's own 'Maybe a shitty dad or a mob family' line, does anyone else feel like Loona's rather specific spiel about the shitty family (particularly the kid setting dogs on fire) is hinting at HER backstory/horrible trauma?
The big foreshadowing about a circus burning down is it’s the same person each time that blitzo bumped to cause it xd
The continuity in this show is brilliant.
Just fyi moxie as a child was not forced to kill his own mother that demon he pushed into the lake was just a random shmuk who crossed crimson and before your two braincells say "bUt hEr bOoT fLoAtS uP tO tHe sUrFaCe" that was just for dramatic effect to show that crimson had killed all these people himself INCLUDING moxies mother
"Oh what a mouth". (¬ ʖ̯¬)
"Ok keep that guy far away from me..."
Idk if this counts, but, Blitzø's dad selling him for money, and Mammon wanting money, Mammon even has little "$" signs on the ends of his jester hat thing...
I have a feing that Mammon bought Fizzarolli from Cash
("sold every part of me")
There’s also the fact in the first episode that Moxxie wouldn’t kill a family unless it’s a mafia family which would be understandable. Moxxie comes from a mafia family
Yes and with the trauma he experienced from his Dad...
6:27 the way fizz said “you didnt even CARE!!” gave me goosebumps.
I need a therapist fizzy
OH MY GOD THE LOO LOO LAND FIRE IT WAS RIGHT IN FROMT OF OUR FACES THE WHOLE TIME.
Also the whole pirates, blood thing while fizz is playing with blitzo when they where kids foreshadows that fizz is uncomfortable with blood also foreshadowing why blizo didnt just shoot the creepy guy when fizz was about to have a panic attack
to miss these foreshadowing, you basically mustve just... ignored the whole show
With 1:38 I feel like it might lead to something too. Like...Blitz, is that something you want to share with the class or?
I'm more interested in "ah! a new hole!"
...**what other holes does he have?!**
@@Xeorboommouth and butt
@@dampsocc besides those
@@Xeorboomlook if you don't get the joke just say so lmao
3:02 DOES ANYONE ELSE HEAR THE TICKING NOISE FROM THE BEGINING OF EVERY EP?
Baby Moxxie is so innocent poor baby 💔💔
8:25 you hear his song palying a lot in the backround
7:44 I wouldn’t call that foreshadowing lol, that’s just Stolas’ musical motif. It just plays when he’s on screen to give him a musical profile rather that to foreshadow some big event or anything
At 4:41 you can also see a poster for Fizz sex bots advertising various features such as "real tentacle action" "ten speed vibration" and "machine washable". Right after that at 4:45 there are more posters for robofizz plus a poster for Mammon Cola and a disclaimer that lulu land is not lulu world which is lucifers Theme Park.
THE TRANSITION AT 3:57
3:14 I KNEW I FELT FAMILIAR
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1:59 - wait, why are Crimson's heels taller than his wife's?
Wait, why is Crimson wearing heels!?
This is exactly what I was going to comment like why are they bigger 😂
A thought that keeps me up at night is this:
How can Moxxie easily handle and shoot a gun percicely but can’t cut his steak??
It's because Moxx is a helluva marksman that he's always able to take his target out from a distance so he never had to build up any physical strength (the fights with Stryker are proof of that).
plus he was quite young back then
When stolas sings of you look at the outfit it’s the same one in episode 7 not when he saves blitz
Because that takes place after the night at Asmodeus’ Club.
Still kinda floored Bryce can sing.
the casting crew casted mostly broadway actors.
I especially like how the singing sounds kinda broken and not pitch perfect to sell Stolas' emotion
11:59 "Always hazbin" 😭😭😭BRO
Most of that is not foreshadowing, just a story making sense between episodes. Foreshadowing is a discrete hint, not a whole scene. Also the "same imp" is someone from the animation team, just a recurring cameo and not even the only one. The music from the trailer is a teaser
The asmodean crystal is foreshadowing.
Moxxie saying "maybe like a sh*tty dad or a mob family" was foreshadowing
Robo Fizz and Blitzø, interactions in LooLooLand were foreshadowing about Blitzø's relationship with Fizz.
Octavia's line about Lulu World could be a form of foreshadowing for Hazbin Hotel IF they use the theme park in a way making it foreshadowing, not just worldbuilding exposition and Mammon characterization
And if you're wondering, Stella saying to Stolas she knows he'll pay is not foreshadowing, it's dramatic irony cause Stolas doesn't know what she's talking about while the viewer already knows she hired Striker, it's just saying she planned something soon
The thing is though.. not only was moxxie's mother's tail not striped, the person who moxxie pushed off the boat was a guy, indicated by the horns. I don't think it was actually his mother, but his father made it seem that was to intimidate him.
Yes but the shoe indicated that that's what happened to the mum previously
@@TwilightStarWolf there's lots of different possibilities, but I never denied any of them other than moxxie killing his mother
octavia and stolas’s daughter/father relationship is so cute
Another thing I would say is foreshadowing is in the Robo-Fizzie ad Mammon steps on the fluffy toy fizzie which happens again to Fizz in the 2-Minutes Notice song and also probably hints at Mammon being abusive
The first scene (loo loo land too) wasnt really foreshadowing and was moreso a reference/callback to the pilot but otherwise, a lot of these are super thought out!!
Something heartbreaking that i just noticed is at 2:54 , although its muffled, it sounds like Moxxie's assumed to be mother is trying to say "I love you."
Just wanted to share that I spent at least 3 mindless hours today scanning documents at work while “got the book, got the book, got this heavy fuckin book” ran through my head repeatedly in Blitzø’s voice
Wait a second... Crim was rowing the wrong way lol
Btw that scene when they show: bliz mom burning in the photo..
That means she died in the fire and thats why bliz sister hate him..
"ow! I say ow!"
this is a great vid but i have to inform you of the difference between foreshadowing and continuity
Pretty sure there’s a difference between a callback and forshadowing
3:25 Was that the car shearer dance 😭
I understand Moxxie not wanting to kill a mother, because he wants to be nothing like his dad😭