Red Alert 2: [YR] - Testing Grinder
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- Опубліковано 7 кві 2020
- Grinder is a structure available only to Yuri. For only $600 it's a structure which will reward you with much more. The Yuri's technology synergies pretty well with the Grinder and it's very easy to acquire many resources. Money is never enough!
All units can be used in the Grinder and there are no exceptions.
Infantry grant half of their cost as a reward while vehicles grant full resources of their original cost.There are many combinations to be used and most of them are demonstrated in the video. Grinder is also a must have building to make a MCV available for training from a War factory.
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5:12
Yuri: "I have taught you well"
*goes into the grinder he built*
"Conscript reporting."
**Cloning Vats and Grinder are built.**
Conscript: **Starts sweating.**
**Genetic Mutator is built.**
Conscript: **Sweating intensifies.**
At least for a moment they got to experience the epitome of strength.
I wonder what happens to conscript inside grinder
@@takasmaka820 the body heat from all their sweating powers a steam turbine and produces cheap energy.
Assign order to enter the grinder.
Conscripts:
*Crying*
*Yells "Help me!"*
Still better than fighting in Stalingrad.
Guardian GI: We re uncrushable
Gets crushed by the grinder for ore.
0:29
"Let's get it on!"
"Sp... arrgghhh!!!"
later...
"Yes, comrade."
"Electrician in the... Ouuwww!!!"
lol xD
Boris Li
Ya, I didn't know there's a place called ouwww 😂😂😂
Allied & Soviets: Man from where did Yuri manage to fund his war efforts
Yuri:
3:33
"All units can be recycled, there are no exceptions"
Aircraft and Naval Units: Am I a joke to you?
Naval units ?
@@jaredbickmore2474 lol forgot them thx gonna add that
i do curios what would happen if Grinder can be constructed on water? Would it able to recycles naval units?
What if you lift your naval units using magnetron and drop them to the Grinder?
@@xian3571 Don't think anything would happen because you need to command the unit to kill itself in the grinder you can't grind a unit not under your command
Yuri is the ultimate recycler.
Surprised you didn't point out how freed slaves sent to the grinder say in a sad voice "alright, alright"
Really? :o
Kiwijr2579 that's one of the feed back
It's because that they use the enslaved "harvest" quotes for whatever reason. Westwood originally planned to give you the ability to direct slaves from a miner and they had movement, harvest and even attack quotes versus when they're free.
@@racer927 Interesting.
how much money does a slave yield?
“I lost a bomb.”
“Do you have it?”
“YAAAAA...”
happy birthday !
Guardian GI: "We're uncrushable"
Yuri: "You will be ground (grinded?), this is a *grinder* , after all"
0:35 "Electrician in the UGHH"
Can we all just agree how satisfying it is to send like 20 mind controlled vehicles into the Grinder?
...husband?
Someone's been writing fanfics I see..
mind control shenanigans
@@Razzusamadesu Tanya can't be mind controlled. But Yuri doesn't know that yet. And Tanya isn't going to tell him just yet.
@@keineangabe4434 she will destroy him in the court for that 50%...
Testing "Grinder"?... Oooh, that grinder from ra2! Ok... you got me worried for a second
No homo bro
Yeah right, I bet you had your trouser down while the video was buffering.
@@ezrazonable4992 I was covering my bottom
Suss
🤨
2:59 today I learned that engineers can remove crazy ivan's bombs.
Also, the ending was a total Jojo moment.
Jojo Fine from Deus Ex, I hope?
4:37 OMG I can't imagine this, Yuri is a total Psychopath.
Training a soldier and then mutate them into brute and then grind them into soylent.......
It's like a human livestock waiting to be culled.
I mean....he did plan to enslave the entire world and turn everyone into mindless servants....I think that was already established lol
The man apparently is a master of transmutation, also. Turning crushed flesh into tank parts and sub parts and Disc parts is just magic.
3:33 "All units can be recycled, there are no exceptions." *Kirov reporting!*
Он разве не опускается в дробилку сверху ? 🤔
@@J87styka I tested it with a normal kirov and a landing kirov
nope, it wont enter
Did you know that a Spy and a free slave have unique Monologues when directing them into a Grinder? Don't know if there are any more, I noticed just these two so far.
What did they say?
@@thecakeistotallynotalie The Slave will say in a sad tone "Alright, alright." The Spy will say something like "Aquiring information" or "Getting intel". I just translated it in English because I play the game in German.
@@Pascal754 "Obtaining Intelligence"
@@ramdattaropemaker9009 Thanks man.
I noticed something but didn't pay too much attention.
Thanks!
Imagine being trained into a giant force just to be turned into the hulk and dumped into a giant meat mincer so your commander can build like 3 extra tanks
I really love the small ends of your video! Especially with Boris!
there is a bug about the grinder in the last soviet mission "head games"
i wonder if that's just me have that problem
it was the grinder on the lower west part, below the captured allied base
if you kill some or all guarding units near the grinder, it would turn into neutral
and if you send engineers in, wanting to capture it
it will just eat off your engineers without being captured
And no one know where the money gone.
FishyFinThing belonged to that faction
@@fishyfinthing8854 where do you think the money for the crates comes from
I don't think you can capture Grinders anyway, can you?
@@wjzav1971 at least not this grinder i mentioned lol
Love that you always add random fun stuff at the end
There's a map in Skirmish that has no regenerating ore. I think it's the D.C one.
So at one point, I actually had run out of funding but luckily I had both Soviet and Yuri tech, so most of my income was from building cheap tanks and grinding them for more money.
Thanks man! Didn't think you would be so quick
Campaign. Several missions are attempts to stop Yuri funding his war efforts.
Skirmish. Unlimited income.
When I used to edit things in TibEd, units would have this thing called "Soylent Value" which was what you'd get when you grind them up.
So that's what I like to call it when I send units to the Grinder. "This unit has a Soylent value of this much, so I'll make this much from it!"
Ah! That's what Soylent parameter means.
@@SU76M
I think when I found it, I realised very quickly what it meant since Infantry had it being half their cost and vehicles were full price. "Oh must have to do with the Grinder"
"I know your thought"
send yuri to grinder
"that's a good thought"
My assumption would be that if you grind a tank with a terror drone, you also get the funds of the terror drone then.
In red alert 2 if you have both allied and soviates, you can take advantage from the cloning vats and cloan any allied infantry the you can sell them back to get double the credits
I wish there really were "clowning" vats in the game. People would be sending armies of Ronald McDonalds against each other
@@TheOldGuest
Corrected
Brah that ending was insanely weird hahahahahaha . Great vid man and keep up the good content
Imagine going to a foreign land to fight an enemy, only to have your commander turn you and your buddies into the Amazing Bulk and running you through a gigantic cheese grater for money.
What will you do whe you're out of things to test?
Tg's channel in several years: "Testing TREES in RA2".
Do you mean for Mirage Tanks?
since im playing yuri revenge i don't know about this. thank you for this tips, im gonna try this
Damn the plot twists in the ending got me good
Yooo i never thought the crazy ivans bomb could be diffused
You should check previous video of crazy ivan... It was great fun.. 🤣🤣🤣
"This man never learns!"
>Turns out he's also cloned and/or the original
In infantery in vehicles gives full money, you can clone infantery, put them into vehicles and get the bonus that way.
Awesome video, always wondered
In other versions of Yuri’s Revenge, Grinders appear to be missing their crushers
This has to be the most overpowered resource building in the series. It wouldn't be too bad if not for the fact that it was used in a mind control focused faction who had a superweapon that can give them units for free.
Tesing Grindr next, please.
During play I discovered you can send your MCVs into an ally's grinder. It was the only unit I've seen where I could do that.
Банковский перевод валюты в RA2 😂
The way I see it, Allied and Soviets spend money to keep a until in the fight. Yuri grinds the unit then buys another one. Though that has the downside of losing any experience that unit had accrued
Don't mess with Boris... He says "don't mess with me!" after all xD
3:34
Air and Naval unit: Am i a joke to you?
You create a new meme: Like a Boris.
I haven't seen this discussed or mentioned: What we used to do is put blockers around the barracks. The infantry won't come out and your money would be returned, but the IFV will still copy them. You can then grind them to get money back.
I think it was fixed in later patches.
3:32 It should have been "All ground units"
Since you can recycle kirovs, choppers or naval units
I think that's kind of obvious!
Using magnetron?
@@sellisali974 the unit has to be guided in by the player. Uncontrollable units like Heroes, Terror Drones or Robot Tanks also cannot be recycled unless controlled by the player that owns the Grinder. The Magnetron will in fact drop the unit on top of the Grinder, damaging the Grinder instead.
Nice vid!
Worth noting, if you wall in your barracks while having a cloning vat, the barracks unit can't be trained and gets fully refunded, but the clone still pops out. Put the clones in the grinder and you have free money
wth was that skit at the end lmao I love it.
2:52
Crazy Ivan: Ok, I'm going, but first... *HERE, HOLD THIS!*
There's a allied mission i don't what part but you have an black eagle and enemy boomers in the mission in that however has many neutral units roaming around the map and infinite cars driving by if you happend to capture one of yuri's base and train yuri clone aswell as building a grinder you can mind control the populace and the roaming cars to the grinder easy money. I had fun playing that mission despite being short.
Brother amazing videos as always ! will we film a workout tommorow please ?
No troops were harmed during this video
What would be really interesting to know: how many conscripts can I fit into one genetic mutator and how much gain would I make?
And what is the best price/build space vehicle to farm if I have a industrial plant?
Payback time for Boris!
Last time, it was with the Iron Curtain crate with the real Tanya killing off Boris after duping her clone into it.
This time, Boris owns the real Tanya and Yuri Prime! The real Tanya takes out his clone for duping her clone and Yuri Prime's clone into the Grinder, only for herself and the real Yuri Prime to get shot at by the real Boris.
DON’T MESS WITH ME!
On another note, Grinders are the greatest help to Yuri's economy.
There are others, yuri's floating discs when it captures enemies' ore refineries.
Yes, they do. But they can be taken down by anti-air units and defenses. So while Yuri has not yet produced any of them (or if ever they got shot down), he has mind-control technology and Grinders to fund his war efforts.
For obligatory use if you follow my tecnique: Train Yuris, build Psychic Tower and (maybe) Mastermind Tank, don't invest in Virus or Brutes (Gattling Tank yes, because the air menace) because the VIRUS will cause than the enemies don't aproach to be converted and the Brutes will crush them when aproach closer. Basically you can make money of agresives armies with easily.
The grinder goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!
Will you test cloning vat in RA2 ? since it's has a concept to "recycled" unit like grinder but only for infantry .
Too bad I didn't add it here. Don't know now.
There is a fact that I discovered:
You build a Slave Miner, deploy to summon the Slaves, then move the Slave Miner to the Grinder and recycle it (leave the Slaves there)
And what will happen is: the Slaves say the quote: “We’re free!” and become NEUTRAL. They will immediately attack your units that are nearby them.
B4 watching video: I hope you got Crazy Ivan blowing up the Grinder...
Edit: Aww man! You got it but, what else i can ask for. Thanks for the video!
Yuri yuri.. can't we just... get along?
I have an idea for a video
Ore drills
How much they give with just 1 drill, how much they give when they've finished drilling
What happens if a building blocks it, will it ignore that square? Or drill without giving anything?
Hmm, good idea!
3:05 hence becoming a Yuri main, or Epsilon main in MO3.3 :D
Boris going full Boss-ris at the end there haha
Also I think you accidentally misnamed the Ore Purifier as Ore Refinery in this video but it's not really a big deal, it's easy enough to work out what ya mean
Yes, my bad!
"we're uncrushable"
lol
2:11 "We're uncrushable!"... _Well..._ Let's put that to the test :)
Отлично, тогда я смогу перемолоть вас несколько раз 😂
Grinder sound effect gives me goosebumps
*_ouch_*
Can a unit under the Iron Curtain effect be recycled? Or what happens when Iron Curtained units get into a vehicle that is not Iron Curtained and that is recycled?
Yuri is a OP STONKS
An engineer can defuse bomb's?!?!?!? I had no idea.
2:13 we are uncrushable, immediately crushed in the grinder, yeah I see
Don't mess with Boris.
I think Romanov cant be inside of grinder, but it is campaign unit, even mind controlled you cant atack him.
Do demolition trucks somehow not blow up when you send them into the grinder?
1:30 Approved by Trollface physics for infinite money
Test the terror droned tank and grinder. I heard it gives you both tank and terror drone price
Is it possible to set the resolution higher like it is for you in this video in red alert 2 (not YR)too? I tried to do it with the ini edit but the game was running with like 1fps
ArchangelG For RA2 I really don’t know.
If you put 20 conscripts in 4 flack tracks then in a hovercraft, does it provide 20x50+4x500+1200?
Do you get any additional resources from Miners and slaves holding ore and gem? Is it worth Yuri getting a Miner crate to collect ore and gems and then grind it?
No! :D
the Miners don't "carry" gems/ore they are literally the refinery for Yuri.
@@SantomPh My question was already answered, but I'll clarify my question.
If Yuri obtains a Chrono/War Miner, is it worth collecting ore/gems to send into the grinder, or will the grinder only grind the unit, not the ore/gems? And will it grind ore/gems freed Slaves are holding as well?
Nice video ^^ too funny ^^
That’s why I’ll see you’re player grind their mcv rather than sell it I guess.
What happens if you grind a vehicle infected by terror drone? Do you get resources for both? Can you grind a vehicle affected by chaos drone?
1st question. Yes, you get the value of the vehicle affected by the terror drone and the terror drone itself.
2nd question. Normally, once your units fall into enemy's Chaos Drone, you automatically lose control over them (you can't order them anything while in berserk state).
0:26 Most units have a "Soylent" value defined and this is usually what ends up getting used. A lot of these values are just half the cost of the unit, though, but in the case of vehicles it's the same as their Cost. Sometimes there's a special value, though, and CNCNet also makes use of this in their optional Yuri Patch to make Brutes only grind for 100, meaning the old Initiate+Cloning Vat->Genetic Mutator into brutes->grind trick only ever breaks even with the cost of the Initiates (still gives you a return if you use Conscripts, though)
1:25 I actually did not know this, I wonder if this is intentional? I have heard the Industrial Plant also doesn't _actually_ reduce the build time of vehicles, only the cost, but I haven't personally tested this myself, but that would be consistent behavior with this because its only modifying the cost you end up actually paying for the vehicle instead of its literal real cost. IIRC the same thing happens with "Cost*Mult" when a Country actually specifies one (ex: Russia was originally going to have CostUnitsMult=0.85). Funnily enough the IndustrialPlant also has fields for "InfantryCostBonus", "AircraftCostBonus", "BuildingsCostBonus", and "DefensesCostBonus" but all of these are just set to 1 in the vanilla game. They do legitimately work though if you set their values to something other than 1, and indeed you can make any building apply these bonuses too by also putting FactoryPlant=yes on it. As far as my understand goes _only_ buildings can have FactoryPlant=yes though.
I think it's a limitation of the engine. You can't keep track of which unit are discounted unit on every unit.
@@MrPathorn But that's not totally true tho, they clearly can get a correctly reduced cost for every single unit, infantry, building, defense, and aircraft, _per player,_ all those CostBonuses _work,_ I think it's either an oversight and they didn't realize this happened until it was too late, or it was entirely intentional.
@@Templarfreak I mean They can't get modified Soylent value for each unit. Discounted Rhino and Normal Rhino have to use that same static value.
@@MrPathorn Oh, no, yeah, that's totally true, the soylent value is not being modified at all, that's definitely an engine limitation. Still hard to tell if this was entirely intentional or something that just went unnoticed though.
@@Templarfreak Well for starters. Yuri is very unbalanced faction by itself.
another thing is it is very rare in competitive game to capture grinder and build industrial plant and or vice versa and then print money with it.
if you put a vehicle that has a drone in it, do you get the money for the drone as well?
Vehicles coated with Iron Curtain are not allowed to grinder?
ну Борис да, красава)
You get $300 profit from convert two initiates to brutes. I keep initiates on production pass the early-game once I got cloning vats so I could convert them for extra funds. The downside of this trick is; you need to invest into making initiates so it isn't free money.
Nobody goin to talk about it's appearance? I mean the another set of grinders at the top of the building. At rare case where you can see it and it even spins when someone grinded
Hey uhh i noticed that the enemy on your videos is a different colour, and are you like setting up (and by that i mean killing 2 enemies getting their mcvs) before every video like this? If yes then you might find helpfull that you can save an allready set up base to just test new units/structures in and you dont need to set up every single time you make a new video?
When I started making the videos I had to restart everything because I wanted to select a different faction for their special unit. I ended up having quite some save files which I randomly use now depending on the next unit.
Good to know, cuz u felt quite bad thinking that you had to restart every single time when there's a save option
The bad thing in that game is the skirmish maps
If you have iron curtained vehicle, can it be sent to the grinder?
Yes, you can!
How much money will you get when a tank which is attacked by a terror drone enters the grinder? Is it (500 + tank money)?
Yes, terror drone will count.
15 War Factories + Any MCV + Industrial Plant
= Hyperinflation
interesting
0:35 Electrician in the *oww!!!*
Have you shown that if a unit is infected with drone, the grinder gives you money for both units? Or I missed it?
Nope, I missed it!
Grinder should really be called Yuri Repair Facility lol
3:33 'All units can be recycled. There are no exceptions. ' Well I think there ARE exceptions, which is that naval and airborne units cannot be recycled... or they actually can in some ways that I don't know?
Well I obviously meant for the ground units.
@@tsiripas Sure. But what I am really interested in is that, some none-ground-units maybe on ground sometimes, and if there are some unusual situations different than what we typically expect. e.g:
1. Siege chopper can change from airbone and ground, is there any chance that can by recycled? (I guess not. )
2. Amphibious transports are constructed in shipyard, but can be on land as well. Could them be recycled? (I guess yes. ) Also amphibious can carry flak tracks/battle fortresses, and they can carry infantries too, so recycle it will be more complicated (I guess it is a simple add up)
3. Harriers and black eagles can be attacked by tanks cannons or terror drones when landed on airforce command HQs, not sure if we can find a way to squeeze them into the grinder. (I guess not)
(The following is some ideas I just came up, which are not really related to the "land units" only topic.)
4. If we recycle a tank "infected" by a terror drone, will we gain the money for the terror drone as well? (Further more, if the drone is yours and it is "infected" by force attack). What about amphibous transport "infected" by a giant squids, and chronosphere it to the land and recycle (I guess the squid will die. )
5. What will happen if we try to recycle units under protection of iron curtain? Or MCV protected by force shield, and undeploy and then recycle? (Can we undeploy a construction yard when force shielded?)
6. Will low power affect the grinder?
Magnetron?
@@bojugai9174
1 & 3 - Air units can't be recycled no matter what.
2. Yes, everything will count normally.
4. Yes, the terror drone will count. The other scenario is not possible.
5. Iron curtained units will still be recycled. MCV will lose force shield if undemployed.
6. Power doesn't affect Grinder!
@@tsiripas Okay, cool. Thanks for the detailed answers. My real intention is trying to find some inspiration points for your new videos, but it is fine if I did not manage to help.
If yuri prime controls a grinder then send him in, then who will get the refund?
The player who controlled the Grinder with his Yuri Prime.
@@lachezarvalentinov8751 pro gamer move when you really need 1000 credits rn