Considering this the the motorcycle equivalent of racing a Range Rover against a Lamborghini, the R1200GS is quite an impressive machine on the track! I would be interested to see a run with the Gear Shift Assist Pro option.
That was beyond awesome! I watched the whole thing intensely. You really held your own and gave it a true 10/10. The guy on the Panigale was really leaning and scraping knees on corners and he had a 75hp advantage over you. That was a lot of fun man! Thanks for posting, what a race!
I did the exact same thing you did. Took my GS on the track and "raced" superbikes. The GS holds its own for sure, but it's not a match - like you point out. In straights and under heavy braking, the GS can't keep up.
Another epic ride by the amazingly impressive MirageGP. As a GS rider, this is my favorite so far and defines what a GS is capable of in the right hands.This video should be required viewing by GS riders and nothing but praise should be given to Mirage GP for riding this bike flat out. I do not know anybody that could keep pace, on the "Big, Heavy & Bulky GS", with a skilled rider on a pure sportbike such as the Ducati 1199 Panigale. A GS passing a Panigale on a racetrack makes this the best GS video I have seen to date. I can't wait to see more of Mirage GP videos and I most importantly can't wait to show my Suburban "Adventure" rider buddies!
You summed it up - I do not know anybody that could keep pace, on the "Big, Heavy & Bulky GS", with a skilled rider on a pure sportbike such as the Ducati 1199 Panigale.
You are a excellent rider!! I had similar experience riding with "Ducatis". GS are not a match, but with a good rider Ducati guys must show real skills or will get behind us. Good job! It is impressive how BMW GS 1200 are stable and perform well good in all conditions.
Love this video dude!! Nice riding skills 👍👍🏁🏁 I’ve just ordered the new 1250Gsa hp so excited to get out on it! I’ve had a 2011 which I really loved but it was lacking a bit in the twisties here in Spain, I feel 2 generations later it will be good 🤪. I’ve watched your crash video as well.. scary stuff!! And hope your recovery is going well?🍀🍀 strange the way it just went.. maybe rear shock getting older and not holding the contact good.. it’ll probably stay with guesses of what happened.. you can’t blame yourself because your riding is really good 👍 stay safe and good luck!. Regards Dennis
Dennis, thank you very much! Recovery is picking up, I should be able to ride this year, thinking KTM perhaps? I am working on couple happier videos, have some nice footage from road trip I did some time ago. When do you expect delivery of 1250?
That’s great news!! Getting back on track 🍀🍀 , delivery time here on this moment is 6 to 10 weeks 😱😱 hoping to have mine end of February, I have ordered the Hp with the brushed aluminum tank 😍😍 looks really good in the flesh!, I’ll post a video when I pick it up! And yep I like the 1290S adventure Ktm a lot as well!! But I think the Bmw is a bit more all round and more comfortable and with the new engine it really gives a lot more lowdown torque! Looking forward to your videos! Regards Dennis
Lucky you! I need more surgeries in March and after that few more months to recover and then I should be sorted. Cannot wait to test ride 1250GS and 1290KTM, then I will decide.I'm looking forward to your video!
MirageGP think you can’t go wrong with any of these 2 but knowing you like the Gs I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the new 1250.. 👍 all the best for the coming months and hopefully you’ll be like new !🍀🍀🍀 Regards!
Great video , excellent riding skills . Not everyone can ride that gs like that but you proved it's capability . Most people don't out perform there bike and that bike is great at list of things . Nice job
Thank you very much ! Ride more off road nowadays - it's different type of challenge. But one thing stays the same. Tyres ! Once you know what you're doing, they make so much difference. I was told that was not so much the case off road - but it's not true.
Now, let's see the Panigale stay this close to the GS off road! what you say? The Duc can't do off-road? How about a 450 mile tour day? CAN SOMEONE SAY "ONE TRICK PONY"?
So hilarious seeing GS fans so proud of the big hulk of steel keeping up with the panigale, little they know that Panigale gets to 200 km/h in second gear, that Panigale rider was just warming up. The GS is great for what is supposed to be great at, let's keep it this way
I love it when someone properly beats the Snot out of a motorcycle, specially on such a beast as your GS, Good Work ! Keep it up and keep the videos coming ! I find it commical how the Duc pulls aqay on the straights like you're tied up to a tree. Lol.
+Adrian Rigby That was after spending couple of session only on (then new) LC model on dealers demo day. I think I can probably ride it a bit faster now.
Was this like the ADV bike track day? Lotta GSs out there.. Rick has so much clearance on that.. and good tires no doubt.. needs to drop his head and crack the throttle more exiting those turns heh.. you did a good job keeping up.
miragegp How can I explain this... The K12R is raw power. No traction control, so you can easily get in trouble. The thing is also very heavy, and needed a lot of modding to make it rideable (all in i-BMW.com). Even so, the ride is punishing, and it does' like turning. The GS, has better fueling, and being a two cylinder, the power is deliver is fun pulses. Some people call it tractable (or tractor-like), but the power delivery is smooth and predictable (wish it was more). The bike so incredibly agile, it belies its weight (actually weighs less than the KR). It's so versatile as well. I don't know. I have all my bikes (K12R, K12LT, and not the R12GS). Each does something different for me... but I've been lusting for a GS for a long time. All I can say is wow! This bike is friendly! I love the GS!
Eyvind Mondragon That's the beauty of it. It's versatile, it handles, doesn't have any of the issues that K1200/1300 had - because it's their bestseller BMW is quick to sort whatever the problem is. I just bought 2015 GS LC and love it. Mind you...there is a chance I get S1000RR as well. Waiting to see what RS and XR will be like first. I think XR would probably be perfect bike for me.
charlie ashby Cheers mate, thanks. What is unbelievable - today I rode off road, climbed meteorite crater, on hiking trail with the same model (only 2015) GS. Ability to do almost anything and go almost anywhere - that's the strength of GS.
Great riding. Matching the Pani rider for corner speed and out-braking them every time. Still amazing to see how the Pani just blitzes the straights though, even from a pretty light bike with 125hp. Odd to think that as a track bike, the Pani still needs the right track to get away from something that 95% of the time is going to be way way more usable on public roads. And huge talent still counts for so much!
Thank you - I have ridden (video is somewhere in this channel) that Pani and its owner was on S1000RR....Pani was soooo much easier to ride. Have a look, I think it's rather decent video :-)
Wow!!! Respect my friend. My favourite vid. Awesome riding skills you have. Wish I could ride with you someday on my GSA 1200 and get some advice 1st hand. plse more!!! Gr Dennis
Just found this video. Thats is how you march a big girl around the track. Great Riding. I would have loved to see the look on the face of the Pani rider during all those laps. lol had to be classic
You can do anything with it, really. I used to ride superbikes, mostly breakfast runs. Issue was that aircooled GS was not "fast enough". With LC version I have decided to bite the bullet. Certainly, you're not leading superbikes pack on it, but it's not slow either. Then I did some serious touring with it...it's perfect. Range, comfort, luggage capacity. Now I'm discovering GS' off road capabilities, it's amazing. I will never ever ride anything else.
Impressive stuff. The skill is riding what you've got to its capabilities.( and not throwing it up the road;)) Got a be close on the big gs so impressive stuff. Panigale should kick the gs ass on track and as you know,, that's not a criticism of your riding,,, quite the opposite. Pani rider not so good but no matter I'm sure he's enjoying himself and that's what's important. Good vid
After owning GS for 3 years, I'm pretty confident that I would be a tad quicker on the track now. Not a match for Pani but goes to show that on the road, with committed rider onboard GS is not "pipe and slippers" tyre of bike.
You, miragegp, have huge balls and your very good too. It took a long straight for the Ducati to take you, and not for long. I can imagine what it's like. I was racing a Porsche 918 in a Bentley Mulsanne today, as one does, and it was the same. I was the better driver in a very heavy beast and he was good and in a crazy fast sports car. It takes courage. I've been having wet dreams of my future R1200GSA and you have just made them much much wetter, thank you very much.
Hey Peter, thanks for the compliment. I'd love to go for a spin in one of those exotics...did M5's and M6's, older 997 911Turbo... Now, to business, regarding GS(A). Try both - I bought GSA first and after a year of not being sure it's the best bike for me, traded for GS. And guess what, that's it. No other bike interests me. You can have SO MUCH fun of it, on and off road...it's fast when you want it to be, you can ride it at walking pace without a problem, it does gravel as good as tar, if you're more adventurous, it does some crazy stuff off road too (but you must be ready to fall now and then, which I'm not). In short, ride them both, back to back and pull the trigger. They are pure magic !!!
miragegp its just a lot of top heavy dual sport to throw around a track with massive lean angle with them fat lumps of donk hanging over the sides i have a 650 dakar and i don't think i will ever get her near that .... plus don't have the power or brake to go no where near that hard
Bike is easy to ride at fast pace. But when you start pushing, that's when the frame and suspension start to complain... You can ride "over" that but it's difficult to figure out how far are you from front washing out. Then I sit on S1000RR for instance and as hard as I dare to push, bike just says - c'mob, give me more. So...don't stress...650 is probably less capable than 1200... so no point to try to be a hero. Rider matters but so does the hardware underneath.
far from stressed let me assure you .. i am the slowest of my mates with bikes had a good off a few years ago reminding me that i anit made of steel ... plus i haven't been putting the time to get back to were i was and i don't know if i ever will. the 1200 does amaze me at what a crazy machine it is for its height and weight .. that boxer down low must make a hell of a difference i at times and in the future will ride hard trails for such a heavy bike and i know i will never want such a big machine like the 1200 ........ as for a s1000rr maybe i would ride one on the track since that's the only place you can use it . riding it over 50% of what it has for road use and you will get locked up or run over by making someone panic...
amh007dude I was referring to track riding on S1000RR. On public roads it's downright scary. I have few rides in this channel - have a look. And please don't complain about the speeds....it's sports bike, difficult to ride slow :-)I suggest, if you're still willing to ride and try to improve - do it one step at the time - like 1% over your ability....push...just a little bit...
*Hands smoking demo bike back to dealer*: "I think it's pretty much run-in now" Awesome riding, dude. So entertaining! Maybe I should swap my Gixxer track bike for one of these...
+miragegp Haha! My first two BMWs were ex demo machines, where I got back from the test ride and said, "I want it!" My R1200RS was my first brand new one, though. I'd love to take it to the track, but just can't afford to risk it, which is why I have a 2001 model GSXR 1000 track-dedicated machine. With a new(ish) lightie in the house, though, I can't afford to get out on it as much as I would like. Track days here in the UK are SOOOOO expensive compared to in SA. Incidentally, my first ever track day was on my mate's dad's K1300GT at Zwartkops, where I must have been going round like a granny. I'm definitely a bit quicker these days (but still learning)
If you have track bike then there is no point to push and risk with new machine. Maybe you can do few laps just to see how it feels like but that's about all. Also, track riding is not that healthy for your driveshaft (constant up/downshifts). K1300GT is big and heavy for the track but it can hustle. Have you seen my video with K1600 at Zwartkops ?
+miragegp I'm italian sorry for my english....before to start, every time, your accelerator take it considerating that when you' ll need to route it, you 'll be always in a right position: in the video i always see a strange position of you dx hand (when you need more engine, more rpm, i mean)
Hey great video - surprising that such a big ol' beast can keep up with the lightweight stuff - was that an 899 or 1199 do you know? I'd love to take my GS on a track sometime, how shot were the tyres after you'd finished??? Duly subbed :-) Cheers - TMF
TheMissendenFlyer Tyres were getting greasy towards the end but for what they are - long mileage touring/occasional enduro, they were great. I ride GSA now and have fitted them after Anakee 3 set. Like them much better. My friend was riding 1199.
Brilliant Video! Outstanding in all aspects, even while pushing to the very limit of your machine and it's set up. Courteous passing and a smooth, patient yet relentless chase. Much respect for you and your machine. Truly well done! Perhaps in future vids how about including a brief "walk around" of the bike, clearly showing the model of bike, it's configuration and how it's rotors and tires look just as it came in off the last lap. It would be neat to see the details, save you some repeat questions and silence the doubters. It will also give me an idea of exactly which bike & rider combo I need to watch for approaching in my mirrors!!! Lol. Speed on Brother! /BRAKELATE/
Brakelateatmsn Thanks for your suggestions mate - I will do that. Have lots of material to upload - some more and some less exciting bikes but I'm sure you will enjoy the action.
Ace all round that from all riders. Must say the guy in the BMW vest was tops. Think he was either on a 700 or 800 GS, he stayed with the 1200 and panigale all the time in the mirrors. Quality
Is that an BMW 800R in front during first minutes of the video? That is even more surprising than 1200GS, as it would be a huge power gap with both Ducati and 1200...
I am well pleased with my LC on the road playing with the sports bikes but not had on a track day yet. You seem pretty handy with your LC on this track. Guess you had it in rain mode to give the Duc a sporting chance? :-)
This video is testimony that you know what you're doing and there can be no question that your GS crash was rider error! I'm still wondering what the hell happened with that. It is a mystery. (Unless, it was something as simple as a slippery section of road / rear slip........but your friends went through that corner on a similar-ish line without any issues). I have a 2017 GS and am (kind of) excited about the new 1250 GS and GSA, but I would feel a lot better if we could identify what failed here. Get well soon dude!
A very good show indeed. Although I wouldn't say the guy on the Pani was a GREAT rider. He really could only pass the guy on the F700GS in the straights and only walked away from you (barely) in the straights. The GS is a phenomenal bike nonetheless. Great riding!
Luke Tanner This track is well suited for GS... Pani is stronger everywhere but I'm glad I could keep up, specially in slower corners. Could keep tighter line.
The guy riding the Pannigale was absolutely terrible & making the GS rider/bike looking great. The Ducatl rider was all wrong with his lines going into corners. I'm guessing he is a novice track rider. Put the Ducati 1199 in my hands and I'll show you how it rides....P.S. - I own a 1299 Pannigale + Ducati Streetfighter 848 + BMW S1000XR....Anyone who talks up the GS in the comments section is simply dreaming if they honestly think the tractor is a sports bike dressed in adventure clothing! Simple!!!
Very nice ride on your "Big Beemer" you have good driving skills, few people will dare to push this versatile beast to this edge on track. This vid shows clearly how important the driver is to perform well with a motorcycle. If the Panigale driver his driving skills would even come close to yours, he would be much faster then the Beemer :) No criticism on the Big Beemer's though, it is indeed remarkable they can perform this well on track. I am actually thinking about selling my KTM sportsbike for a GS1200 (I have an R1 for the track to keep in touch with the adrenaline levels from time to time:) ) Keep up the good work and nice vids!
+miragegp I've been long everywhere. I'd love to see one stripped and made lighter with all the same components just less bulk and weight for cornering and slightly higher acceleration do to weight reduction, still able to hit the trails. My ideal bike.
+shadowspect09 And handling...people don't understand that 10kg makes a difference. And for those who don't understand or feel it - they're not great riders.
Nice riding man. Can you please tell me which tires you used? Two years ago in August I rode at Montmelo, a high speed circuit, and my Metzeler Tourance Next tires melted on the edges. I was sliding all over the place, suspecting the rubber is softer at the edges of these tires and cooks fast. I still have the melted marks cause on roads I don't lean that much. Dan
Fantastic video, showing what a super smooth, skilled rider can do with an 'adventure bike'. I have a BMW K1600GT (my channel, jaysbigadventure is all about BMW cars and bikes) and love riding the canyons here around Salt Lake City UT with the sportbike guys. They're all like "Dang, grandpa's here with a teddy bear - hey, where did he go?" :)
Hello, are you happy with your Tires Metzeler Next ? I hesite between Metzeler Next and Michelin Pilot Road 4 for my Triumph Explorer 1200 :-) thank you for your answer !!! This video is just Waouuu, very Nice !
+Chiew Siong Seng I notoced the same! Is it F700 or F800? Didn't see clearly... but he's right behind all the time! Each bike is for each purpose. To say "fags on their sportbikes", in my opinion is a wrong comment, but this is a neverending debate. I use my bike for every purpose, and there are better and worse bikes than mine, but there's nothing wrong in riding wht you like. In the end, bikes are highly passional vehicles.
+Daniel Ruiz Precisely. Also, on tight track like this, it's more about weight than power. That's why I could stay with Ducati. If track had more long, sweeping corners, Ducati would have me for breakfast.
The GS is a bike that seems to utterly defy the laws of physics. This only goes to show how fast these bikes can be. In the real world on the road the broad powerband combined with its outrageous cornering ability means it can humble many bikes that are much faster on paper, because very few riders are capable of keeping a sports bike in the powerband or using the limits of braking and cornering that would give the bike the edge over the GS. In comparison the GS is much easier to ride fast.
I agree but not completely. GS is easy to ride fast but if you know how to paddle sports bike, GS cannot keep up. Saying that, on the road, riding fast but not insanely fast, I'd ride GS each and every time. After the accident I had, however, I'm thinking about different brands as replacement bike or possibly new 1250 GS when it comes out, depending on my recovery which will take a while.
The panigale rider is just not very skilled., for anyone that has doubts regarding that. The GS is a land barge in comparison, but a decent rider is more than enough to get a GS to keep up on a small-ish track, which this was.
A friend was telling me at a local track that almost no one on their Sports bikes could keep up with the Police riders at the track one day on their R1200RT's.
Considering this the the motorcycle equivalent of racing a Range Rover against a Lamborghini, the R1200GS is quite an impressive machine on the track! I would be interested to see a run with the Gear Shift Assist Pro option.
It wouldn't change things much...perhaps with better tyres and shift assist things would be a tad closer but Ducati is just too strong.
A Range Rover?
I don’t know about that. I’d call it a lifted 911 vs a Lamborghini. The GS is such a fast bike to 100
That was beyond awesome! I watched the whole thing intensely. You really held your own and gave it a true 10/10. The guy on the Panigale was really leaning and scraping knees on corners and he had a 75hp advantage over you.
That was a lot of fun man!
Thanks for posting, what a race!
Thanks Eyvind !
Are you still riding K1200R ?
I did the exact same thing you did. Took my GS on the track and "raced" superbikes. The GS holds its own for sure, but it's not a match - like you point out. In straights and under heavy braking, the GS can't keep up.
Respect!
It is not about the bike, it's the rider that makes the difference!
Nice riding!
George Niculescu Thanks George !
I’m not sure why it’s not about the bike, the GS is a very fast bike.
Great skills fella - just goes to show that for us mere mortals the limitation of performance is rarely the bike we ride but more the skills we have.
Cheers Matthew!
He has skills, but everyone is downplaying how fast a GS is down low for some reason?
Another epic ride by the amazingly impressive MirageGP. As a GS rider, this is my favorite so far and defines what a GS is capable of in the right hands.This video should be required viewing by GS riders and nothing but praise should be given to Mirage GP for riding this bike flat out. I do not know anybody that could keep pace, on the "Big, Heavy & Bulky GS", with a skilled rider on a pure sportbike such as the Ducati 1199 Panigale. A GS passing a Panigale on a racetrack makes this the best GS video I have seen to date. I can't wait to see more of Mirage GP videos and I most importantly can't wait to show my Suburban "Adventure" rider buddies!
Michael!!! You're too kind mate!!!
You summed it up - I do not know anybody that could keep pace, on the "Big, Heavy & Bulky GS", with a skilled rider on a pure sportbike such as the Ducati 1199 Panigale.
You are a excellent rider!! I had similar experience riding with "Ducatis". GS are not a match, but with a good rider Ducati guys must show real skills or will get behind us. Good job! It is impressive how BMW GS 1200 are stable and perform well good in all conditions.
Thanks John !!!
Great riding, man. The GS is just one fantastic machine.
TheSteelerider Absolutely. Not a sports bike but it can hustle.
I know I did not have as much fun as you by just watching it, but it is a lot of fun to watch!
Cheers, thanks !
It's like having a cruise ship in the rear mirror. A very fast cruise ship. Awesome dude!
+newt0n Cheers mate, thank you !!!
That was absolutely brilliant thoroughly enjoyed that you have some excellent riding skills sir!
Love this video dude!! Nice riding skills 👍👍🏁🏁 I’ve just ordered the new 1250Gsa hp so excited to get out on it! I’ve had a 2011 which I really loved but it was lacking a bit in the twisties here in Spain, I feel 2 generations later it will be good 🤪. I’ve watched your crash video as well.. scary stuff!! And hope your recovery is going well?🍀🍀 strange the way it just went.. maybe rear shock getting older and not holding the contact good.. it’ll probably stay with guesses of what happened.. you can’t blame yourself because your riding is really good 👍 stay safe and good luck!. Regards Dennis
Dennis, thank you very much! Recovery is picking up, I should be able to ride this year, thinking KTM perhaps? I am working on couple happier videos, have some nice footage from road trip I did some time ago. When do you expect delivery of 1250?
That’s great news!! Getting back on track 🍀🍀 , delivery time here on this moment is 6 to 10 weeks 😱😱 hoping to have mine end of February, I have ordered the Hp with the brushed aluminum tank 😍😍 looks really good in the flesh!, I’ll post a video when I pick it up! And yep I like the 1290S adventure Ktm a lot as well!! But I think the Bmw is a bit more all round and more comfortable and with the new engine it really gives a lot more lowdown torque! Looking forward to your videos! Regards Dennis
Lucky you! I need more surgeries in March and after that few more months to recover and then I should be sorted. Cannot wait to test ride 1250GS and 1290KTM, then I will decide.I'm looking forward to your video!
MirageGP think you can’t go wrong with any of these 2 but knowing you like the Gs I think you will be pleasantly surprised with the new 1250.. 👍 all the best for the coming months and hopefully you’ll be like new !🍀🍀🍀 Regards!
I loved my GS! Was just thinking, perhaps it time to change. But I will do an extensive ride on KTM first and see how it goes. In due time of course.
Very well done mate, extraordinary job...
+m.murat candan Thanks Murat !
Great video , excellent riding skills . Not everyone can ride that gs like that but you proved it's capability . Most people don't out perform there bike and that bike is great at list of things . Nice job
Thanks Uncle Rico !
Nice Ride...in Germany we laugh about the GS Riders...but you seem to be a good Rider so Thumbs up :)
Thank you very much !
Ride more off road nowadays - it's different type of challenge. But one thing stays the same. Tyres ! Once you know what you're doing, they make so much difference. I was told that was not so much the case off road - but it's not true.
GS owners feel good video.
Great Video.
Thanks David!
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epic ride, I have been doing my homework, I just want one not for track days, ultimate tourer. thanks for sharing
+Cole Lock My pleasure Cole.
Excellent riding and handling on that GS. The Ducati rider was no slouch and on a bike purpose built for carving on a track.
Cheers mate. After recent accident on GS I'm not sure what to think of the bike...
In light of the 86hp you are giving away my hat is off to you. Bravo
Thank you!
Well that was just epic, great riding!
stuste964 Thank you !!!
Now, let's see the Panigale stay this close to the GS off road! what you say? The Duc can't do off-road? How about a 450 mile tour day? CAN SOMEONE SAY "ONE TRICK PONY"?
Larry Dickman Exactly. People are hard on GS as a "sports" bike, yet - it does so many other things really well.
I have done 500 mile days on my 1199, anything past 300 miles becomes agonizing.
You really think that a GS is fast as a Panigale on track? Wow you are stupid as fuck. Is just about who drive
Larry Dickman lol. But. This is a track video sooooooo not applicable. Do you got a GS and are butt hurt?
So hilarious seeing GS fans so proud of the big hulk of steel keeping up with the panigale, little they know that Panigale gets to 200 km/h in second gear, that Panigale rider was just warming up. The GS is great for what is supposed to be great at, let's keep it this way
wow! Nice riding! Glad to see the GS keepinup =)
Thanks Wade!
I love it when someone properly beats the Snot out of a motorcycle, specially on such a beast as your GS, Good Work ! Keep it up and keep the videos coming ! I find it commical how the Duc pulls aqay on the straights like you're tied up to a tree. Lol.
JIGA BACHI Plenty power in Ducati. It's so easy to ride fast.
Wow!! Looks like a blast! You sure know how to fling that beast around.
CMB Thanks !
Wow , never knew a GS could be ridden so hard on the track , mind blown
+Adrian Rigby That was after spending couple of session only on (then new) LC model on dealers demo day. I think I can probably ride it a bit faster now.
"trying" to keep up? I think you kept up and then some! Amazing job, doing that on a bike that was designed for off-road stuff.
Thank you very much !
Camel747 BS! The Pannigale rider was a novice
Thanks for a great video. I'm anxious to schedule a track day!
Mark Spencer Lot's of fun, track days. Just take it easy at first.
Was this like the ADV bike track day? Lotta GSs out there.. Rick has so much clearance on that.. and good tires no doubt.. needs to drop his head and crack the throttle more exiting those turns heh.. you did a good job keeping up.
It was BMW Dealer sponsored track day. Ricky was not pushing as hard as I did...but we moved at good pace.
That's an amazing video, well done sir!
Thank you very much !
Mirage, yes! I'm still riding it. Recently got a '08 GS with very low miles.
What do you think of GS ?
I ride GS as well now.
miragegp How can I explain this... The K12R is raw power. No traction control, so you can easily get in trouble. The thing is also very heavy, and needed a lot of modding to make it rideable (all in i-BMW.com). Even so, the ride is punishing, and it does' like turning.
The GS, has better fueling, and being a two cylinder, the power is deliver is fun pulses. Some people call it tractable (or tractor-like), but the power delivery is smooth and predictable (wish it was more). The bike so incredibly agile, it belies its weight (actually weighs less than the KR). It's so versatile as well.
I don't know. I have all my bikes (K12R, K12LT, and not the R12GS). Each does something different for me... but I've been lusting for a GS for a long time. All I can say is wow! This bike is friendly!
I love the GS!
Eyvind Mondragon That's the beauty of it. It's versatile, it handles, doesn't have any of the issues that K1200/1300 had - because it's their bestseller BMW is quick to sort whatever the problem is.
I just bought 2015 GS LC and love it. Mind you...there is a chance I get S1000RR as well. Waiting to see what RS and XR will be like first. I think XR would probably be perfect bike for me.
Loved the way you rubbed it in, Boxers rule. You should show your tyres after a session, make us drool. :)
unbelievable riding on a GS 1200 ,I take my hat of to you, well done..
charlie ashby Cheers mate, thanks. What is unbelievable - today I rode off road, climbed meteorite crater, on hiking trail with the same model (only 2015) GS. Ability to do almost anything and go almost anywhere - that's the strength of GS.
Great riding. Matching the Pani rider for corner speed and out-braking them every time. Still amazing to see how the Pani just blitzes the straights though, even from a pretty light bike with 125hp. Odd to think that as a track bike, the Pani still needs the right track to get away from something that 95% of the time is going to be way way more usable on public roads. And huge talent still counts for so much!
Thank you - I have ridden (video is somewhere in this channel) that Pani and its owner was on S1000RR....Pani was soooo much easier to ride. Have a look, I think it's rather decent video :-)
Wow!!! Respect my friend. My favourite vid. Awesome riding skills you have. Wish I could ride with you someday on my GSA 1200 and get some advice 1st hand. plse more!!! Gr Dennis
Come to South Africa and let's ride together Dennis !
Hello. Any recommendations for track PSI for the GS?
Thats some serious riding skills on an adventure bike, gives me a bit more confidence on the limits, any wet track days LOL!
LOL!
Just found this video. Thats is how you march a big girl around the track. Great Riding. I would have loved to see the look on the face of the Pani rider during all those laps. lol had to be classic
+Jay Loy He is my mate but didn't expect that pace from GS ;-)
Thanks! I just bought a 1200 GS and wasn't sure if I could still go to the track.
You can do anything with it, really. I used to ride superbikes, mostly breakfast runs. Issue was that aircooled GS was not "fast enough". With LC version I have decided to bite the bullet. Certainly, you're not leading superbikes pack on it, but it's not slow either. Then I did some serious touring with it...it's perfect. Range, comfort, luggage capacity. Now I'm discovering GS' off road capabilities, it's amazing. I will never ever ride anything else.
Impressive stuff. The skill is riding what you've got to its capabilities.( and not throwing it up the road;))
Got a be close on the big gs so impressive stuff.
Panigale should kick the gs ass on track and as you know,, that's not a criticism of your riding,,, quite the opposite. Pani rider not so good but no matter I'm sure he's enjoying himself and that's what's important. Good vid
After owning GS for 3 years, I'm pretty confident that I would be a tad quicker on the track now. Not a match for Pani but goes to show that on the road, with committed rider onboard GS is not "pipe and slippers" tyre of bike.
Awesome riding on the GS. I think i heard the peg scraping.
MrPanda415 Cheers mate, thanks. It was my knee.
The rev limiter had a good workout! Nice ride.
Had my '08 GS on the track on Tourace tires - big fun!
They are very good tyres. Probably best for GS for road riding.
You, miragegp, have huge balls and your very good too. It took a long straight for the Ducati to take you, and not for long.
I can imagine what it's like. I was racing a Porsche 918 in a Bentley Mulsanne today, as one does, and it was the same. I was the better driver in a very heavy beast and he was good and in a crazy fast sports car. It takes courage.
I've been having wet dreams of my future R1200GSA and you have just made them much much wetter, thank you very much.
Hey Peter, thanks for the compliment. I'd love to go for a spin in one of those exotics...did M5's and M6's, older 997 911Turbo...
Now, to business, regarding GS(A). Try both - I bought GSA first and after a year of not being sure it's the best bike for me, traded for GS. And guess what, that's it. No other bike interests me. You can have SO MUCH fun of it, on and off road...it's fast when you want it to be, you can ride it at walking pace without a problem, it does gravel as good as tar, if you're more adventurous, it does some crazy stuff off road too (but you must be ready to fall now and then, which I'm not). In short, ride them both, back to back and pull the trigger. They are pure magic !!!
+miragegp Thx :)
Well done Great riding KEEP RIDING WITH GS LC
pkarandreas Cheers, thanks.
very well done i am amazed and shocked how well you are doing
amh007dude I'm not shocked ! Lol Thanks mate.
miragegp its just a lot of top heavy dual sport to throw around a track with massive lean angle with them fat lumps of donk hanging over the sides
i have a 650 dakar and i don't think i will ever get her near that .... plus don't have the power or brake to go no where near that hard
Bike is easy to ride at fast pace. But when you start pushing, that's when the frame and suspension start to complain... You can ride "over" that but it's difficult to figure out how far are you from front washing out. Then I sit on S1000RR for instance and as hard as I dare to push, bike just says - c'mob, give me more. So...don't stress...650 is probably less capable than 1200... so no point to try to be a hero. Rider matters but so does the hardware underneath.
far from stressed let me assure you .. i am the slowest of my mates with bikes had a good off a few years ago reminding me that i anit made of steel ... plus i haven't been putting the time to get back to were i was and i don't know if i ever will.
the 1200 does amaze me at what a crazy machine it is for its height and weight .. that boxer down low must make a hell of a difference i at times and in the future will ride hard trails for such a heavy bike and i know i will never want such a big machine like the 1200 ........ as for a s1000rr maybe i would ride one on the track since that's the only place you can use it .
riding it over 50% of what it has for road use and you will get locked up or run over by making someone panic...
amh007dude I was referring to track riding on S1000RR. On public roads it's downright scary. I have few rides in this channel - have a look. And please don't complain about the speeds....it's sports bike, difficult to ride slow :-)I suggest, if you're still willing to ride and try to improve - do it one step at the time - like 1% over your ability....push...just a little bit...
*Hands smoking demo bike back to dealer*: "I think it's pretty much run-in now"
Awesome riding, dude. So entertaining! Maybe I should swap my Gixxer track bike for one of these...
+El Sc0rchi0 That's pretty much what happened. But in long run, made me buy one ;-)
Try it, you might get the bug too !
+miragegp Haha! My first two BMWs were ex demo machines, where I got back from the test ride and said, "I want it!"
My R1200RS was my first brand new one, though.
I'd love to take it to the track, but just can't afford to risk it, which is why I have a 2001 model GSXR 1000 track-dedicated machine. With a new(ish) lightie in the house, though, I can't afford to get out on it as much as I would like. Track days here in the UK are SOOOOO expensive compared to in SA.
Incidentally, my first ever track day was on my mate's dad's K1300GT at Zwartkops, where I must have been going round like a granny. I'm definitely a bit quicker these days (but still learning)
If you have track bike then there is no point to push and risk with new machine. Maybe you can do few laps just to see how it feels like but that's about all. Also, track riding is not that healthy for your driveshaft (constant up/downshifts). K1300GT is big and heavy for the track but it can hustle. Have you seen my video with K1600 at Zwartkops ?
+miragegp I'm italian sorry for my english....before to start, every time, your accelerator take it considerating that when you' ll need to route it, you 'll be always in a right position: in the video i always see a strange position of you dx hand (when you need more engine, more rpm, i mean)
I'm not sure I understand but thanks anyway ;-)
wow, you made that look easy, great bike even better riding!
+MrImarcus Cheers mate, thank you.
Hey great video - surprising that such a big ol' beast can keep up with the lightweight stuff - was that an 899 or 1199 do you know? I'd love to take my GS on a track sometime, how shot were the tyres after you'd finished??? Duly subbed :-) Cheers - TMF
TheMissendenFlyer Tyres were getting greasy towards the end but for what they are - long mileage touring/occasional enduro, they were great. I ride GSA now and have fitted them after Anakee 3 set. Like them much better. My friend was riding 1199.
Very impressive!
TheMissendenFlyer I have a video of trackworks with new LC RT - you are going to laugh how fast it is. Tyres were Z08. Will upload in next few days.
Look forward to it!
The GS is one remarkable bike.Today it track,tomorrow its Dirt,next day touring.Great ride,thks
Bruce Kendall Cheers Bruce, thanks.
Showing this video on BMW Motorrad i think they start considering to use Gs instead of S1000rr to win against Ducati on WSBK...😎
Nice drive bro! 👍🏻
Cheers!
Brilliant Video! Outstanding in all aspects, even while pushing to the very limit of your machine and it's set up. Courteous passing and a smooth, patient yet relentless chase. Much respect for you and your machine. Truly well done! Perhaps in future vids how about including a brief "walk around" of the bike, clearly showing the model of bike, it's configuration and how it's rotors and tires look just as it came in off the last lap. It would be neat to see the details, save you some repeat questions and silence the doubters. It will also give me an idea of exactly which bike & rider combo I need to watch for approaching in my mirrors!!! Lol. Speed on Brother!
/BRAKELATE/
Brakelateatmsn Thanks for your suggestions mate - I will do that. Have lots of material to upload - some more and some less exciting bikes but I'm sure you will enjoy the action.
i reckon the instructor on the GS800 did a pretty stellar job as well
They are awesome, I agree.
Ace all round that from all riders. Must say the guy in the BMW vest was tops. Think he was either on a 700 or 800 GS, he stayed with the 1200 and panigale all the time in the mirrors. Quality
It was one of resident instructors, they have offices at the track, ride very well.
Is that an BMW 800R in front during first minutes of the video? That is even more surprising than 1200GS, as it would be a huge power gap with both Ducati and 1200...
I think it was F700GS.
Great video and terrific riding.
Thanks Andrew.
Great ride man! Did you disable the asc control? I see a yellow tringle..
Yes I did
The GS holds it's own with no problems. Nice riding.
Thanks Tor !
Nice riding. Duc is awesome but the Gs is a hell of a machine.
Can't wait to ride new 1250 model!
Great race. I realy like this Video.
Thanks Andreas.
Great vid to watch, thanks for posting!
I am well pleased with my LC on the road playing with the sports bikes but not had on a track day yet. You seem pretty handy with your LC on this track. Guess you had it in rain mode to give the Duc a sporting chance? :-)
Ducati is VERY strong but I tried my best ;-)
nice riding makes me want to do track day on mine SOON !!!!
+JoeShep71 You must go Joe ! ;-)
Miragegp. Hahaha was watching this as impressed as ever again. And she I commented 2 years ago. Now I have the 1250 hp.... what tires were u on ????
Hey, not bad for the GS, definitely no "chicken strips" left on those tires! Better braking than the Duc too!
Lol....no, I don't think chicken strips were that visible :-)
This video is testimony that you know what you're doing and there can be no question that your GS crash was rider error! I'm still wondering what the hell happened with that. It is a mystery. (Unless, it was something as simple as a slippery section of road / rear slip........but your friends went through that corner on a similar-ish line without any issues). I have a 2017 GS and am (kind of) excited about the new 1250 GS and GSA, but I would feel a lot better if we could identify what failed here. Get well soon dude!
Thanks mate. I'm getting someone to check the bike - for my own sanity. I will either update here or make another video.
Hi, Do you have an akrapovic slipon on there?
That's correct, bike had Akra exhaust.
A very good show indeed. Although I wouldn't say the guy on the Pani was a GREAT rider. He really could only pass the guy on the F700GS in the straights and only walked away from you (barely) in the straights. The GS is a phenomenal bike nonetheless. Great riding!
Luke Tanner This track is well suited for GS... Pani is stronger everywhere but I'm glad I could keep up, specially in slower corners. Could keep tighter line.
The guy riding the Pannigale was absolutely terrible & making the GS rider/bike looking great. The Ducatl rider was all wrong with his lines going into corners. I'm guessing he is a novice track rider. Put the Ducati 1199 in my hands and I'll show you how it rides....P.S. - I own a 1299 Pannigale + Ducati Streetfighter 848 + BMW S1000XR....Anyone who talks up the GS in the comments section is simply dreaming if they honestly think the tractor is a sports bike dressed in adventure clothing! Simple!!!
Very nice ride on your "Big Beemer" you have good driving skills, few people will dare to push this versatile beast to this edge on track. This vid shows clearly how important the driver is to perform well with a motorcycle. If the Panigale driver his driving skills would even come close to yours, he would be much faster then the Beemer :) No criticism on the Big Beemer's though, it is indeed remarkable they can perform this well on track. I am actually thinking about selling my KTM sportsbike for a GS1200 (I have an R1 for the track to keep in touch with the adrenaline levels from time to time:) ) Keep up the good work and nice vids!
Bruno Mommens Cheers Bruno, thanks. New videos will be up soon.
Let's keep it real guys. Great piece of riding on the GS, woeful on the Panigale. I'm sure no lap records were set by either rider...
Not so but that wasn't the point either - we were just playing on the track a bit.
Amazing!
I bought one today.
Btw... Could you do this on a triumph tiger?
+prat I was never a big fan...rode Triumph few times, never got me excited. I like KTM and Ducati though.
Great riding my friend, I'd love to take 1200, maybe an 1150 and strip to a Cafe or scrambler and see how it fairs.
+shadowspect09 It would look awesome - I have seen some projects on the net...
+miragegp I've been long everywhere. I'd love to see one stripped and made lighter with all the same components just less bulk and weight for cornering and slightly higher acceleration do to weight reduction, still able to hit the trails. My ideal bike.
+shadowspect09 Mine too !!! We seem to share passion for "less is more". That's why I have switched from GSA to GS.
+miragegp What you lose In excess, you will gain in practicality
+shadowspect09 And handling...people don't understand that 10kg makes a difference. And for those who don't understand or feel it - they're not great riders.
Muiuuito bom !! Parece um amigo meu de GS1200, o que manda e o conhecimento.
nice ridin'! you did that GS proud. I think you on that Duc woulda been long gone though :)
I think so too... 😉
Good riding
+Garry Thomas Cheers Garry, thanks.
Nice riding . . .
Hugh Fathers Thanks mate.
Which tire were you using on this track?
Qual pneu você estava usando nesse track?
Metzeler Tourance Next. They are very good.
Plus his grip is better than anakee 3?
I like them more, they don’t feel as stiff as Anakee. But best road tyre is Pirelli Scorpion 2.
Nice riding man.
Can you please tell me which tires you used?
Two years ago in August I rode at Montmelo, a high speed circuit, and my Metzeler Tourance Next tires melted on the edges. I was sliding all over the place, suspecting the rubber is softer at the edges of these tires and cooks fast.
I still have the melted marks cause on roads I don't lean that much.
Dan
+VelvetBulldozer Hi Dan, I was on NEXT too...Yes, they get to spin up a bit when hot.
Mooi rit, was dit op renbaan van Zwartkop?
Nice! The leaning was pretty extreme!
+Adventure Rider Cheers. Just checked your videos - very nice !
+miragegp Awesome thanks!! ;)
What track allows jeans and mirrors? Damn
Jealous much?
Fantastic video, showing what a super smooth, skilled rider can do with an 'adventure bike'. I have a BMW K1600GT (my channel, jaysbigadventure is all about BMW cars and bikes) and love riding the canyons here around Salt Lake City UT with the sportbike guys. They're all like "Dang, grandpa's here with a teddy bear - hey, where did he go?" :)
Thanks Chris! Checking your channel now!
Hello, are you happy with your Tires Metzeler Next ? I hesite between Metzeler Next and Michelin Pilot Road 4 for my Triumph Explorer 1200 :-) thank you for your answer !!! This video is just Waouuu, very Nice !
Olivier Frautschi Wont be able to help you - I'm fitting PR 4 next ! :-)
I think they will be better than NEXT.
Fantastisch welche Bandbreite eine GS abdeckt !
Love GS....but I had crash with it......
MirageGP I‘m sorry, hope your healthy !!
Thank you very much!
WHERE THE PRESSURES MEASURED HOT OR COLD PRESSURES, PLS PS. AWESOME RIDING
2.2 front and 2.5 rear - cold. Thanks mate.
@@miragegp THANK U SO MUCH
Excelente pilotaje!!
Thank you!
Awesome Job!! I love this....
Thank you.
Gs rider: " I don't have a beer, but hold it!"
Lol. Exactly. Loved my GS. Feel free to brownie through the channel, plenty great rides before the accident.
@@miragegp Hmm, and after ther accident. Great riding- Ride save
Again? Twice in one week :D Epic video. I think the Ducatti just didn't have enough space to really stretch the legs...
Yip, on faster track GS would had no chance.
Plenty videos coming, I decided to be more active ;-)
miragegp Making me jealous boet...
MrSly870 Had 850km ride yesterday. A bit tired. Short video will up in next couple of days.
How do you get these bikes haha..Do you work at BMW or something haha
MrSly870 I don't but I have connections ;-)
Hi! Great ride! Did you use the original tyres on your GS?
+George Thoms Hi George, most of them come with Anakee3 nowdays. This bike was on Metzeler NEXT. In my view, it's the best on-road tyre for GS.
Thanks a lot! Greetings from Romania!
wow - what a GS driver ! top
nice sound, Akra?
+Mario Van de putte Yes, Akra slip on.
where is this track ?
Swartkops, South Africa
Which tyres are you using ?
I wanna go on track also with my LC.
It's in description. Metzeler NEXT.
Nice video! Thanks for sharing what rubber you were on. Makes a HUGE difference, just like riding ability. Awesome!!! keep the shiny side up.
M Oka Cheers mate, thanks.
the F800GS 1:57min wasn't slow either, (P.S observe the rear mirror)
Great vid BTW
+Chiew Siong Seng I notoced the same! Is it F700 or F800? Didn't see clearly... but he's right behind all the time! Each bike is for each purpose. To say "fags on their sportbikes", in my opinion is a wrong comment, but this is a neverending debate. I use my bike for every purpose, and there are better and worse bikes than mine, but there's nothing wrong in riding wht you like. In the end, bikes are highly passional vehicles.
+Chiew Siong Seng That was chief BMW Riding Instructor. Their office is at the track. He is great rider.
+Daniel Ruiz Precisely. Also, on tight track like this, it's more about weight than power. That's why I could stay with Ducati. If track had more long, sweeping corners, Ducati would have me for breakfast.
respect great ride
Thank you !
was nice to see that the F700GS also was going with them lol!!
Vegasalieri Video of F800GT on the track coming soon, you will be surprised ! ;-)
Wow, great riding, great videos, thanks for sharing and letting us all enjoy.
1200gs playing with uber sports bikes
COOL as a penguins nuts.
1450shunter That's über cool - penguin nuts ! ;-)
Some strange lines / speeds ahead of you.
Nice ride.
Thanks Nicholas...yes to both counts, difficult to predict sometimes.
The GS is a bike that seems to utterly defy the laws of physics. This only goes to show how fast these bikes can be. In the real world on the road the broad powerband combined with its outrageous cornering ability means it can humble many bikes that are much faster on paper, because very few riders are capable of keeping a sports bike in the powerband or using the limits of braking and cornering that would give the bike the edge over the GS. In comparison the GS is much easier to ride fast.
I agree but not completely. GS is easy to ride fast but if you know how to paddle sports bike, GS cannot keep up. Saying that, on the road, riding fast but not insanely fast, I'd ride GS each and every time. After the accident I had, however, I'm thinking about different brands as replacement bike or possibly new 1250 GS when it comes out, depending on my recovery which will take a while.
great youtube channel ! Thanks for all the videos :) BTW: what camera do you use ?
Thanks for your kind words Rudolf. I use Go Pro HD2.
Enjoy the channel, more exciting videos coming up !
This guy knows what his doing
Thank you.
I think you are a better rider than the other guy... Trade bikes and ride again...
Gustavo Rodriguez Thanks for vote of confidence ! ;-)
The panigale rider is just not very skilled., for anyone that has doubts regarding that.
The GS is a land barge in comparison, but a decent rider is more than enough to get a GS to keep up on a small-ish track, which this was.
A friend was telling me at a local track that almost no one on their Sports bikes could keep up with the Police riders at the track one day on their R1200RT's.
And they were probably on touring tyres :-)