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Talking about the housing which I called "Mower Belt Guard" on the top - left side of the deck on a the John Deere riding mower. Yesterday after helping my son-in-law & daughter do some mowing, it came time to clean off the mower. Well we three spent over an hour just cleaning the top side of the lawnmower's deck. Yes, that is right, an hour.... Now they say they clean it whenever they get through mowing. I did the mowing, the lawn wasn't wet or any dew on it, pretty much dry. When I got through mowing we went to start cleaning it. Hosed off the the mower from the top and then down to bottom & wheels. No problems, we thought. Was noticing debris kept coming out from under this "Mower Belt Guard". Turned the sprayer to the jet position and tried forcing the debris out this way. Finally the son-in-law laid down in the driveway and reached as far as he could and started puling hunk's of debris out from inside of the "Mower Belt Guard". He gave up then the daughter gave it a try for awhile. Then I got in there more determined to get this area cleaned out. Almost did, but gave up temporarily because son-in-law said he needed the grease a grease joint which was inside this area and in order to do this he needed to remove the "Mower Belt Guard". Then he would clean out the rest of the debris. This morning I came up with an idea which would help in the cleaning out from the inside of the "Mower Belt Guard". And this modification to the guard would not interfere with its purpose or safety feature as well. Now for the modification: Using an 1-inch hole saw, we drilled three holes, about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch from the bottom, around the edge of this guard, equally spaced out. By doing this, it will allow the water jetted from the nozzle to reach inside the guard at three different places to help in the removal of the debris build up. We spaced out the holes as best as we could. Now cleaning is WAY faster. Just thought it might help everyone else out. Those decks aren't cheap to replace especially when caused by rust which could have been prevented.
Guuuuurl you are the BEST!!!! I have watched 5 days worth of blah,blah blah,,,,, and your demeanor and explanation of systems keep it damn SIMPLE!!!!!! Got your site Saved my New Freind!!!!! Thanx!!!!!
You are one heavy duty lady. I got a top notch drive belt from Gates, a kevlar belt, much better than the original one. It took three tries to get the right size, but fortunately, with light use, I could trade in the ones that were too short at the O"Reilly parts store. They are top grade, had patience to help me, so this is a reference if you want to try this for yourself.
What a great video!...You are exceptionally well spoken and great at getting a point across...I definitely know a lot more about mower belts now than I did before. Thanks.
That girl taught me more about belts in 10 minutes than I learned in 50 years self taught! Nice to look at, too. Keep the vids coming. You guys really have a big following of mower repairs. Thanks for info.(are you sure belts don't stretch?)lol
I love your videos, that's exactly what I needed to hear. My belt falls off, because I didn't put back on my belt guard! Thank you! and by the way Bre, love your hair down! Don't ever cut it.😍😍
Chickanic spreading knowledge, love it , lawn maintenance is finally picking up in upstate new york, it can snow up here on mothers day and of course Halloween, new york
Where I used to mow, the grass grew great, but it was very sandy. I mowed for years and then the belt started popping off. Bought a new belt (yes, correct length) and it kept popping off. I changed all of the spindles and shafts. No luck, the belt kept popping off. Come to find out, because of how sandy it was, the motor pulley had wore down, so the belt was going deeper which meant the belt was too loose. I could have probably changed the pulley, but I decided to buy a belt half of an inch shorter and it worked fine for a few years and then started doing it again. I donated the tractor to our local church and got a new tractor. It was 20+ years old by then. Stay positive and stay safe!
Just replaced my belt on my zero turn after it broke. Guess I waited too long. I was amazed at how much better it sounded after the new belt was on. Cut a lot better too.
You absolutely CAN. I bought an Ariens from my aunt. The belt fell off any time I put the deck below 4(deck height). I bought a replacement that was the exact part listed on the label. The first time I cut my lawn, the belt popped off again and got burned up. I measured it at 101". I went back to the store and bought a generic belt at 99". It fits perfectly and everything runs and fits great. No more belt popping off. Been working like a charm.
I just took the deck out from under my dad's old Ariens yesterday, same issue. On his there are two swing-arm belt retainers mounted in the center and pointing outwards toward the blade spindles. They're spring-loaded, and press against the belt to keep it in track. Somehow both got off-center and rubbed against the pulleys until they were rubbed completely in two.
I've got an old school lt 166 jd, I so know about the believe situation. I've been working on small equipment for about 20 years, have been in landscape, mowing, plowing business etc. So I have that knowledge to have it work, make it work whether it's right or wrong on only my personal equipment of course. I use that old jd to cut down very tall, overgrown turf at a compliance property that I mow only a few times over the summer, before I finish with the Lzs80 exmark that I refuse to abuse. I've got it down to a science with how gently I throw the PTO on and off, even the stupid timing belt on the freedom 42 deck, when that went wacky, I just turned it inside out! And it's still going! The only thing I've bought for that tractor, which is only a seat, cowling, and fenders in the past 10 years is a couple plugs, fuel filters, oil and filters of course, but no belts! Yes it was a learning curve, but I can't believe how much I beat that thing, and how good it is to me! I don't dare even look at the hydraulic drive belt, god only knows what that looks like!
Your example mower uses a PTO system that tightens the belt to make it spin. For that kind of system it makes sense that the belt length would be critical. It needs to be the right length to have enough tension to grab the pulleys while the PTO is engaged and enough slack that when the PTO is disengaged the belt doesn't contact the engine shaft pulley and get gnawed down. However for systems where the PTO is not based on a mechanism to tighten the belt but instead the belt is a fixed tension and there is a clutch to engage the engine to drive the blades, it seems like that case the belt length wouldn't be as critical.
Great video as always. You are my go to and I really trust your knowledge and experience. Had to replace a spindle on my Husky last year and this video helped tremendously. I am in the middle of doing fall maintenance and watched your videos on replacing the mower deck belt and drive belt. Still in the process since I had to order the drive belt from a local repair shop. I will definitely check the size. While I don't need to replace a spindle (yet), I recalled you mentioned the fake zerks because you can't lube a sealed bearing and wanted to hear what you said again. I have watched some other videos and one guy says you can pump enough grease into the shaft to force gease through the seal. Another guy tried this as an experiment and blew the seal out of a new spindle. Plus he said you shouldn't pack too much grease into the bearings. But what I am really writing about is to get your advice on another video where a guy removed the inner seals on the bearings, so you can use the zerk to grease them. What is your opinion on this? Also, another guy simple said to pull the bearings every couple of years and pack them by hand. Or just wait until the bear goes out (not sure how long they are supposed to last) and replace them. Your thoughts?
Just switching over from snowblower mode to lawn cutting mode on Martha, My Deere, today. I'll closely inspect and lube the deck while it's out. Thanks for the video, Bre! ❤❤
Thanks so much for the video! I am glad that you did this one. I don’t know how many times I have heard people say that the belt is stretched! Now I can tell them to watch your video! Thanks again and keep up the great job!
Thank you for your thoughtful and insightful videos. I feel we live in the age of junk at the highest price. Your videos are very educational and help form purchasing decisions. Appreciated!
Amen, preach it Chickanic! Every point on the money. I don't know about John Deere but especially on the old craftsman(and several other brands that are all clones) with mechanical belt tightening function standard size deck there are parts that wear out. Sears parts made a kit to make these decks like new replacing the steel plate that swings back and forth....your pulley being at a bad angle and this part getting stuck is a hint it's worn out underneath. Almost every older deck I examined back in the day needs this kit.
Yep, with no fancy measuring tool, I know I have been sold too short belts thru online sales... I could barely engage the belt drive lever and ended up killing an idler pully 😢
Mine was maybe a quarter-inch too long. You could tell by the occasional burning smell as it slipped, particularly when raising the deck above three inches. The cut quality had also suffered. The belt I tried to replace it with was too small, and it actually did spin the blades even with the PTO off. Both belts were listed as being the proper size. No more off-brand belts for me, despite the OEM one being four times the price.
After a couple of years, my belt would come off when I started it up. I noticed that one of the belt guards had broke off from the vibration. I loosed up one of the bolts and made a belt guard from a bent welding rod. It's been a year and it still works good. Great videos!! Thanks.
Nice Vette! I prefer the 1968 model (with added fender flares and side pipes) ....my father was a frame, alignment and body man who could do it all.....I mean ALL (including A/C Cobras body working with lead filler...not plastic). Being my dad taught me frame straightening and alignment I got to align many Corvettes when I worked in the automotive business from 1975 to 1989. My dad's shop was nick named "The Corvette Shop" because we did so many vettes adding flares, tilt front ends and all kinds of mods. My father passed in 2017 but I am looking forward to seeing him in heaven very soon (judging by world circumstances), I know my dad was born again (me too) so I have no doubt and can't wait to see my dad again. His first name was Adam and I was first born & with my mother calling him Adam and them both telling me to call him "dad" I was a confused little boy. Sooo... I made up my own name for him...... "Dad-um".... say it out loud and you'll get it! LOL Thank you for your videos.
Yes video helped ,looks like a wonderful shop, on my John deere someone removed one belt gaurd ,so when i turn off PTO it falls off, luckily i just replace and it re-engages ,so i see value of belt gaurds on this John Deere L100
Hey Brie, no wonder you are so popular and have one of the best small engine repair channels on UA-cam. Your persona is so personal, direct and spot on. No wonder you were included in those recent 2 personal videos with Steve and Dony, both CANADIANS! Good to have an AMERICAN in the upper crust small engine repair escalon! Good to see you also drink beer, must have seen Steve's trademark videos! Thanks again, Brie for your excellent videos. They have helped me immensely in repairing my equipment. Cheers, eh. Norm, Toronto 🍁🍺🍺.
Great Video . The last 25 years i sold Gates Lawn Mower Belts and you are right you have to put the exact same size back on the mower deck or Drive belt. if it is a belt that is in inches only then you can use a power rated gates green belt.
Ever work on old gravley. 42 in deck. Mine 1969. Rebuilt eng. My Harley. Little noisey. Haha . Changing bellts on deck is a little rough. Still cuts great. Especially long grass. Have you seen any around. People don't realize worn belts cause worn pulleys. Hence belts don't last. Keep up good work . Love strange fixes.
You are so right husqvarna and John dere mowers have different sizes on same models so sometimes you think the belt is stretched, there is no margin in mower belts
That is so good to know I'm having problems with my belt Sears 42 it's deck they sold me a larger belt all I will have to do adjust the cable I will take the belt back off and get the right one I will take it back to the shop get my money back lead there and never go back thank you for telling me that😁😁😁
I'll have to give mine a check next time I pull the deck for blade sharpening. Only have replaced it one time when I forgot to install the other side over the pulley- it sheared as soon as I engaged the PTO. Maybe 6-7 years old now, maybe 170 hours on it.
Excellent information! Thank you! Just replaced the belts on our rider, hope I did it right. Otherwise I’ll be doing it again, but will be wiser because of your video.
Since “V” belts drive on their sides, a worn pulley can also cause belt slippage. Cement saws will often have this issue. The bottom of the drive pulley should not have a polished appearance, as that means the belt is bottoming out on the pulley and therefore the belt will be slipping to some degree on the pulley.
Everything you just said I learned the hard way on a John Deere STX 38 , L110 and D130 & their belts are $47 each , Subscribed , keep the vids coming , got to go replace a blade spindle that has grease fittings for a sealed bearing , Yeah another Deere goof up
Funny you mention about the belt being too tight that I had a guy sell me a JD riding mover for $300 and said he didn't know what was wrong with it because the blades were always running even when they weren't engaged. I took it home and bought a belt and blades kit and changed out all parts and the thing ran like a champ.... still does today 😊 Great video by the way 👍🏼
I just changed the oil on my bronco without lifting the right side up to drain the oil and no I have no little hose to connect to the valve. Oil drained down my crank shaft and on my 2 pulleys and belts. I was so mad I could explode. Took me 3 hrs to drop the pulley and clean all the oil off with gas and alcohol. Learned a good lesson on that job.
These belts are different than automotive belts. People think a belt is a belt. That's why people want a smaller one, because automotive belts do stretch. Great channel!
O'Reilly Auto parts has Gates brand belts which are very good belts. Got them to interchange the John Deere part number and bought the Gates equivalent...no problemo!
I've gone through this a number of times and I've almost always had to purchase a shorter deck belt even though all the rest of the deck parts seemed intact. I don't even bother trying to make a bunch of other corrections or adjustments and just get a slightly shorter belt.
8:03 My Cub LT1 50" threw the belt off the first mow. The tab you see bending up beside the pulley was gapped open to the top, where the belt could go up and over. I bent it closer to the pulley, but not touching the belt; giving equal distance from bottom to the top and hasn't come off in a year now. You are correct though. those covers are there for keeping the belt on on most models.
Good video at the perfect time. My drive belt on my 2001 Poulan Pro lawn tractor is beginning to smoke at the engine pulley when I climb a steep hill. I made a mistake of touching that pulley with my bare hand. Like touching a branding iron. I got a new belt and putting it on next week. Been trying to figure out how to change it.
Hey good info on the mower belts. They sure were a lot of string trimmers in for repair. I'm not a small engine mechanic, but i did for the first time just replace a carburetor on my string trimmer. Watched a lot of your repair videos. My trimmer blows mostly white smoke under loads, so next i am going to check spark arrester to see if it's clogged up. I think i seen you explain that too. Thanks for your info on repairs.
Awesome content today! I recently changed the spindle bearings and pulleys on my D105. I also got a new belt, the exact correct size! Seemed the best time to do it!!!
I've been running my JD LA145 for 5 years now without the two black plastic deck belt guards with no problems. It makes changing the belt a lot quicker when needed and also eliminates the loose grass that always seems to get packed in there. Makes blowing off all the loose grass off the top of the deck when finished mowing before putting the mower away. And yes I always make sure the pulleys are not spinning before I step off the mower. In fact it is easier to see that the blades have completely stopped spinning because you can see the tops of the outer spindle pulleys and make sure everything has stopped. I wish you would so a video on what you do about the crappy Tuff Torq transmissions that all the JD LA1xx series mowers use and the known issues they have when they start slipping or just not moving the tractor when going up slight hills. I'm sure you've seen those issues in your shop.
OEM parts commonly fit and function better than less expensive aftermarket parts as a rule. The key is finding a retailer that sells and service quality brands. Service them in the off season too. Saves frustration when you need to use it.
I love your videos. I have been told all my life that belts stretch, thanks for straightening me out. Why would anyone replace a part with something that isn't right?
Bre on belt alignment i mentioned in previous comment maybe it matters what hight the deck is set at since the motor is at a fixed height but the deck pulley can go up or down based on the amount of cutting height that the user has selected.
One thing I did to my belt guards was to modify them in such a way to make it easier to clean without taking them off every time I wanted to clean it up by just blowing all the crap out and worked fine I have an LA145 John Deere I bought new in 07 I think don't remember but still going strong just replacing the normal wear stuff
I get what you're saying. But if you have an adjustable idler you will be able to use a slightly longer or shorter belt. I've done it, but that was on very old machines. Haven't changed a deck belt in a couple of decades. So maybe things have changed over the eons.😅 I'm pretty old. P.S. I dig the music on your channel!👍😁
This video would have saved me time, but of course I discovered it after I replaced the belt on my John Deere E140. In a "F this" moment I just put everything back together and tried it anyway. Of course it ran exactly as intended, but I spent a couple hours fighting to try and make it tight when it shouldn't have been until it was engaged!
I have a Craftsman T1800 with a 42” deck. I bought two new blades to put on it, before I took off the blades I checked the play in the spindle bearings one had play so I took off the belt pulley half of the ball bearings were missing. Had to order spindle but the deck belt was in stock. The mower is about seven years old still had origin belt & spindles.
Always be sure you put ALL the parts on when you reinstall the deck. Forgot to put that ‘cage’ over the PTO on my Cub Cadet. Didn’t know that cage is supposed to keep the PTO rotating. Ripped the wiring off. A $25 DIY job cost me over $250 with parts and shop charges.
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Talking about the housing which I called "Mower Belt Guard" on the top - left side of the deck on a the John Deere riding mower. Yesterday after helping my son-in-law & daughter do some mowing, it came time to clean off the mower. Well we three spent over an hour just cleaning the top side of the lawnmower's deck. Yes, that is right, an hour.... Now they say they clean it whenever they get through mowing. I did the mowing, the lawn wasn't wet or any dew on it, pretty much dry. When I got through mowing we went to start cleaning it. Hosed off the the mower from the top and then down to bottom & wheels. No problems, we thought.
Was noticing debris kept coming out from under this "Mower Belt Guard". Turned the sprayer to the jet position and tried forcing the debris out this way. Finally the son-in-law laid down in the driveway and reached as far as he could and started puling hunk's of debris out from inside of the "Mower Belt Guard". He gave up then the daughter gave it a try for awhile. Then I got in there more determined to get this area cleaned out. Almost did, but gave up temporarily because son-in-law said he needed the grease a grease joint which was inside this area and in order to do this he needed to remove the "Mower Belt Guard". Then he would clean out the rest of the debris.
This morning I came up with an idea which would help in the cleaning out from the inside of the "Mower Belt Guard". And this modification to the guard would not interfere with its purpose or safety feature as well.
Now for the modification: Using an 1-inch hole saw, we drilled three holes, about a 1/4 to 1/2 inch from the bottom, around the edge of this guard, equally spaced out. By doing this, it will allow the water jetted from the nozzle to reach inside the guard at three different places to help in the removal of the debris build up. We spaced out the holes as best as we could. Now cleaning is WAY faster. Just thought it might help everyone else out. Those decks aren't cheap to replace especially when caused by rust which could have been prevented.
Excellent Idea! Thank you!
I learn something today about belts not stretching, but wearing out from the inside. Thanks.
Guuuuurl you are the BEST!!!! I have watched 5 days worth of blah,blah blah,,,,, and your demeanor and explanation of systems keep it damn SIMPLE!!!!!! Got your site Saved my New Freind!!!!! Thanx!!!!!
Great to be the shop owner. You can have a beer on premise while making UA-cam videos!
You are one heavy duty lady. I got a top notch drive belt from Gates, a kevlar belt, much better than the original one. It took three tries to get the right size, but fortunately, with light use, I could trade in the ones that were too short at the O"Reilly parts store.
They are top grade, had patience to help me, so this is a reference if you want to try this for yourself.
You make more sense when it comes to belt problems than other videos i have watched. Thanks
The is the best video I've seen in 2023! Wealth of information, specially since I have a JD. Carumba you rock Bre!!!
You are so right, I don't know how many of those J.D 100's come in with the belt gaurds missing!!
All right all ready.....new belt same as the old....Geezzzz !👍
Loved how clean that desk was.
What a great video!...You are exceptionally well spoken and great at getting a point across...I definitely know a lot more about mower belts now than I did before. Thanks.
That girl taught me more about belts in 10 minutes than I learned in 50 years self taught! Nice to look at, too. Keep the vids coming. You guys really have a big following of mower repairs. Thanks for info.(are you sure belts don't stretch?)lol
I always learn something from this channel. Thanks!
I love your videos, that's exactly what I needed to hear. My belt falls off, because I didn't put back on my belt guard! Thank you! and by the way Bre, love your hair down! Don't ever cut it.😍😍
I love that you named your dog Echo! I love Echo power equipment myself.
Chickanic spreading knowledge, love it , lawn maintenance is finally picking up in upstate new york, it can snow up here on mothers day and of course Halloween, new york
Love your channel. I had a neighbor and while mowing he would engage his blades 25 to 30 times. Yep, you could hear the belt to ERRRRR. lol
I learned when I was way younger than I am now, that everything you said is to be true. But I did learn the hard way. Lol
Great video!
Where I used to mow, the grass grew great, but it was very sandy. I mowed for years and then the belt started popping off. Bought a new belt (yes, correct length) and it kept popping off. I changed all of the spindles and shafts. No luck, the belt kept popping off. Come to find out, because of how sandy it was, the motor pulley had wore down, so the belt was going deeper which meant the belt was too loose. I could have probably changed the pulley, but I decided to buy a belt half of an inch shorter and it worked fine for a few years and then started doing it again. I donated the tractor to our local church and got a new tractor. It was 20+ years old by then. Stay positive and stay safe!
Great information!! Thanks. Just broke the belt on our RC airplane club's zero turn. Just took it to the Gravely pros. Mowed with my Toro this week.
Great video I agree 100% with her. In my younger days, I learned ONCE that you don't need a close belt, you need THE BELT. Excellent advice as always.
Just replaced my belt on my zero turn after it broke. Guess I waited too long. I was amazed at how much better it sounded after the new belt was on. Cut a lot better too.
first time i'd heard the dogs name.i thought DOGKANIC was a good choice.keep filling my brain with useful information.
Thank you, I love that you share your knowledge with the masses. I wish I had found you a long time ago.
You absolutely CAN. I bought an Ariens from my aunt. The belt fell off any time I put the deck below 4(deck height). I bought a replacement that was the exact part listed on the label. The first time I cut my lawn, the belt popped off again and got burned up. I measured it at 101". I went back to the store and bought a generic belt at 99". It fits perfectly and everything runs and fits great. No more belt popping off. Been working like a charm.
I just took the deck out from under my dad's old Ariens yesterday, same issue. On his there are two swing-arm belt retainers mounted in the center and pointing outwards toward the blade spindles. They're spring-loaded, and press against the belt to keep it in track. Somehow both got off-center and rubbed against the pulleys until they were rubbed completely in two.
I've got an old school lt 166 jd, I so know about the believe situation. I've been working on small equipment for about 20 years, have been in landscape, mowing, plowing business etc. So I have that knowledge to have it work, make it work whether it's right or wrong on only my personal equipment of course. I use that old jd to cut down very tall, overgrown turf at a compliance property that I mow only a few times over the summer, before I finish with the Lzs80 exmark that I refuse to abuse. I've got it down to a science with how gently I throw the PTO on and off, even the stupid timing belt on the freedom 42 deck, when that went wacky, I just turned it inside out! And it's still going! The only thing I've bought for that tractor, which is only a seat, cowling, and fenders in the past 10 years is a couple plugs, fuel filters, oil and filters of course, but no belts! Yes it was a learning curve, but I can't believe how much I beat that thing, and how good it is to me! I don't dare even look at the hydraulic drive belt, god only knows what that looks like!
You are the BEST. I learn so much from you. Thank you for your efforts.
Your example mower uses a PTO system that tightens the belt to make it spin. For that kind of system it makes sense that the belt length would be critical. It needs to be the right length to have enough tension to grab the pulleys while the PTO is engaged and enough slack that when the PTO is disengaged the belt doesn't contact the engine shaft pulley and get gnawed down. However for systems where the PTO is not based on a mechanism to tighten the belt but instead the belt is a fixed tension and there is a clutch to engage the engine to drive the blades, it seems like that case the belt length wouldn't be as critical.
Also the guards aren't necessary to keep the belt from falling off.
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Very Informative. Changed my John Deere belt last year and had the same thought. Thanks to your video, I got the proper belt.
I have always thought the belt was stretching over the years. This proves that the belts do not stretch. I really like your belt size checker.
You lady "know the ropes" ! :) Have a great weekend.
Thank you for teaching me something today. I ran into this issue a few years back.
Great video tip. You are so right. Sooo many folks miss understand the belt systems. Thanks for another great video. 😊
Great video as always. You are my go to and I really trust your knowledge and experience. Had to replace a spindle on my Husky last year and this video helped tremendously. I am in the middle of doing fall maintenance and watched your videos on replacing the mower deck belt and drive belt. Still in the process since I had to order the drive belt from a local repair shop. I will definitely check the size. While I don't need to replace a spindle (yet), I recalled you mentioned the fake zerks because you can't lube a sealed bearing and wanted to hear what you said again. I have watched some other videos and one guy says you can pump enough grease into the shaft to force gease through the seal. Another guy tried this as an experiment and blew the seal out of a new spindle. Plus he said you shouldn't pack too much grease into the bearings. But what I am really writing about is to get your advice on another video where a guy removed the inner seals on the bearings, so you can use the zerk to grease them. What is your opinion on this? Also, another guy simple said to pull the bearings every couple of years and pack them by hand. Or just wait until the bear goes out (not sure how long they are supposed to last) and replace them. Your thoughts?
Good explanation of belt wear verses belt stretch. Thanks for sharing!
Good video ! So true. Not only do the belts fit properly the OEM belts tend to be of superior quality and give much longer life .
Love your Channel and that 1977 Corvette ❤❤
Young lady you seem knowledgeable of all the manufacturers equipment. Enjoy listening to you.
Love how you pre positioned your icy cold beverage lol!!
Just switching over from snowblower mode to lawn cutting mode on Martha, My Deere, today. I'll closely inspect and lube the deck while it's out. Thanks for the video, Bre! ❤❤
Martha was Paul's dog 😊
You are a Beatles fan! Does anyone else name their mower or tractor?
@@MLenninger I name all my vehicles... LOL But not all after Beatles' tunes!
Thanks so much for the video! I am glad that you did this one. I don’t know how many times I have heard people say that the belt is stretched! Now I can tell them to watch your video! Thanks again and keep up the great job!
That was an excellent video (as always) but I never would have thought this to be the case about old vs new belts. Thank you!
Excellent presentation full of great explanations
Echo is a great name for a mower shop dog!
When Tyral fixes all is working on a mower and the phone rings .He always says that Money calling 😊
Thank you for your thoughtful and insightful videos. I feel we live in the age of junk at the highest price. Your videos are very educational and help form purchasing decisions. Appreciated!
Amen, preach it Chickanic! Every point on the money. I don't know about John Deere but especially on the old craftsman(and several other brands that are all clones) with mechanical belt tightening function standard size deck there are parts that wear out. Sears parts made a kit to make these decks like new replacing the steel plate that swings back and forth....your pulley being at a bad angle and this part getting stuck is a hint it's worn out underneath. Almost every older deck I examined back in the day needs this kit.
Very helpful.
You also have to be careful when buying aftermarket belts. Someone will list an 88 inch belt as a replacement for a MTD 88.5 belt.
Yep, with no fancy measuring tool, I know I have been sold too short belts thru online sales... I could barely engage the belt drive lever and ended up killing an idler pully 😢
Mine was maybe a quarter-inch too long. You could tell by the occasional burning smell as it slipped, particularly when raising the deck above three inches. The cut quality had also suffered.
The belt I tried to replace it with was too small, and it actually did spin the blades even with the PTO off. Both belts were listed as being the proper size. No more off-brand belts for me, despite the OEM one being four times the price.
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After a couple of years, my belt would come off when I started it up. I noticed that one of the belt guards had broke off from the vibration. I loosed up one of the bolts and made a belt guard from a bent welding rod. It's been a year and it still works good. Great videos!! Thanks.
Nice Vette! I prefer the 1968 model (with added fender flares and side pipes) ....my father was a frame, alignment and body man who could do it all.....I mean ALL (including A/C Cobras body working with lead filler...not plastic). Being my dad taught me frame straightening and alignment I got to align many Corvettes when I worked in the automotive business from 1975 to 1989. My dad's shop was nick named "The Corvette Shop" because we did so many vettes adding flares, tilt front ends and all kinds of mods. My father passed in 2017 but I am looking forward to seeing him in heaven very soon (judging by world circumstances), I know my dad was born again (me too) so I have no doubt and can't wait to see my dad again. His first name was Adam and I was first born & with my mother calling him Adam and them both telling me to call him "dad" I was a confused little boy. Sooo... I made up my own name for him...... "Dad-um".... say it out loud and you'll get it! LOL Thank you for your videos.
Yes video helped ,looks like a wonderful shop, on my John deere someone removed one belt gaurd ,so when i turn off PTO it falls off, luckily i just replace and it re-engages ,so i see value of belt gaurds on this John Deere L100
Hey Brie, no wonder you are so popular and have one of the best small engine repair channels on UA-cam. Your persona is so personal, direct and spot on. No wonder you were included in those recent 2 personal videos with Steve and Dony, both CANADIANS! Good to have an AMERICAN in the upper crust small engine repair escalon! Good to see you also drink beer, must have seen Steve's trademark videos! Thanks again, Brie for your excellent videos. They have helped me immensely in repairing my equipment. Cheers, eh. Norm, Toronto 🍁🍺🍺.
Great Video . The last 25 years i sold Gates Lawn Mower Belts and you are right you have to put the exact same size back on the mower deck or Drive belt. if it is a belt that is in inches only then you can use a power rated gates green belt.
Thank you. Thats something I didn't know that. Very helpful.
hey hey thank you so much on the advice i've always thought the belts stretch now i have a better understanding have a great weekend Chickanic
Ever work on old gravley. 42 in deck. Mine 1969. Rebuilt eng. My Harley. Little noisey. Haha . Changing bellts on deck is a little rough. Still cuts great. Especially long grass. Have you seen any around. People don't realize worn belts cause worn pulleys. Hence belts don't last. Keep up good work . Love strange fixes.
You are so right husqvarna and John dere mowers have different sizes on same models so sometimes you think the belt is stretched, there is no margin in mower belts
as a mower mechanic also...always amazes me how a half or even a quarter in can make a big difference
Im new here an had to leave for Dr. Appt. Im sorry l will get back as soon asap. Because l love this channel so much info here. Alabama is a big fan.
That is so good to know I'm having problems with my belt Sears 42 it's deck they sold me a larger belt all I will have to do adjust the cable I will take the belt back off and get the right one I will take it back to the shop get my money back lead there and never go back thank you for telling me that😁😁😁
I didn't know that good info you are a genius Bre.🇺🇲🇺🇲
I'll have to give mine a check next time I pull the deck for blade sharpening. Only have replaced it one time when I forgot to install the other side over the pulley- it sheared as soon as I engaged the PTO. Maybe 6-7 years old now, maybe 170 hours on it.
Excellent information! Thank you! Just replaced the belts on our rider, hope I did it right. Otherwise I’ll be doing it again, but will be wiser because of your video.
Since “V” belts drive on their sides, a worn pulley can also cause belt slippage. Cement saws will often have this issue. The bottom of the drive pulley should not have a polished appearance, as that means the belt is bottoming out on the pulley and therefore the belt will be slipping to some degree on the pulley.
Finally, the voice of experience.
Good see ya back on the air, what is best for the money is a zero-turn mower, looking to get one, looking forward to more of your videos thanks.
Love the informative video. And also LOVE your beautiful, healthy hair!!!!
Everything you just said I learned the hard way on a John Deere STX 38 , L110 and D130 & their belts are $47 each , Subscribed , keep the vids coming , got to go replace a blade spindle that has grease fittings for a sealed bearing , Yeah another Deere goof up
Funny you mention about the belt being too tight that I had a guy sell me a JD riding mover for $300 and said he didn't know what was wrong with it because the blades were always running even when they weren't engaged. I took it home and bought a belt and blades kit and changed out all parts and the thing ran like a champ.... still does today 😊
Great video by the way 👍🏼
I just changed the oil on my bronco without lifting the right side up to drain the oil and no I have no little hose to connect to the valve. Oil drained down my crank shaft and on my 2 pulleys and belts. I was so mad I could explode. Took me 3 hrs to drop the pulley and clean all the oil off with gas and alcohol. Learned a good lesson on that job.
Well done Chikanic, nothing worse than being told 'i told you so'. haha
These belts are different than automotive belts. People think a belt is a belt. That's why people want a smaller one, because automotive belts do stretch. Great channel!
Naw - same deal. They wear just like described here.
Yeah, cut one in half, and you'll find they either have steel wire or kevlar cord in them. Neither will stretch.
The "take away" from this... Size *does* matter according to the Chickanic!! 🤣
Terrific insight and advice. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Cheers from Montreal, Canada!
O'Reilly Auto parts has Gates brand belts which are very good belts. Got them to interchange the John Deere part number and bought the Gates equivalent...no problemo!
I've gone through this a number of times and I've almost always had to purchase a shorter deck belt even though all the rest of the deck parts seemed intact. I don't even bother trying to make a bunch of other corrections or adjustments and just get a slightly shorter belt.
8:03 My Cub LT1 50" threw the belt off the first mow. The tab you see bending up beside the pulley was gapped open to the top, where the belt could go up and over. I bent it closer to the pulley, but not touching the belt; giving equal distance from bottom to the top and hasn't come off in a year now.
You are correct though. those covers are there for keeping the belt on on most models.
Good video at the perfect time. My drive belt on my 2001 Poulan Pro lawn tractor is beginning to smoke at the engine pulley when I climb a steep hill. I made a mistake of touching that pulley with my bare hand. Like touching a branding iron. I got a new belt and putting it on next week. Been trying to figure out how to change it.
Hey good info on the mower belts.
They sure were a lot of string trimmers in for repair. I'm not a small engine mechanic, but i did for the first time just replace a carburetor on my string trimmer. Watched a lot of your repair videos. My trimmer blows mostly white smoke under loads, so next i am going to check spark arrester to see if it's clogged up. I think i seen you explain that too. Thanks for your info on repairs.
Awesome content today! I recently changed the spindle bearings and pulleys on my D105. I also got a new belt, the exact correct size! Seemed the best time to do it!!!
What a great video! You are so precise in your explanation! I learn something from you wether I want to or not! 😂☮✌🏻
Thanks for the info Bre great video. Take care of yourself and family and be Blessed ❤️❤️👍.
Thanks, have to replace mine, thought it stretched, guess not
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I've been running my JD LA145 for 5 years now without the two black plastic deck belt guards with no problems. It makes changing the belt a lot quicker when needed and also eliminates the loose grass that always seems to get packed in there. Makes blowing off all the loose grass off the top of the deck when finished mowing before putting the mower away. And yes I always make sure the pulleys are not spinning before I step off the mower. In fact it is easier to see that the blades have completely stopped spinning because you can see the tops of the outer spindle pulleys and make sure everything has stopped. I wish you would so a video on what you do about the crappy Tuff Torq transmissions that all the JD LA1xx series mowers use and the known issues they have when they start slipping or just not moving the tractor when going up slight hills. I'm sure you've seen those issues in your shop.
OEM parts commonly fit and function better than less expensive aftermarket parts as a rule. The key is finding a retailer that sells and service quality brands. Service them in the off season too. Saves frustration when you need to use it.
Love you videos, you have saved me money in the past
I love your videos. I have been told all my life that belts stretch, thanks for straightening me out. Why would anyone replace a part with something that isn't right?
Bre on belt alignment i mentioned in previous comment maybe it matters what hight the deck is set at since the motor is at a fixed height but the deck pulley can go up or down based on the amount of cutting height that the user has selected.
One thing I did to my belt guards was to modify them in such a way to make it easier to clean without taking them off every time I wanted to clean it up by just blowing all the crap out and worked fine I have an LA145 John Deere I bought new in 07 I think don't remember but still going strong just replacing the normal wear stuff
I tried the same thing, to get the debris out, but even with lots of large openings, I still have to remove the guard to clean it out.
I found you go up the next 1/2 and make it work. MTD make everything to nerest half..
I get what you're saying. But if you have an adjustable idler you will be able to use a slightly longer or shorter belt. I've done it, but that was on very old machines. Haven't changed a deck belt in a couple of decades. So maybe things have changed over the eons.😅 I'm pretty old.
P.S. I dig the music on your channel!👍😁
The price you pay for success! Tons of work!
This video would have saved me time, but of course I discovered it after I replaced the belt on my John Deere E140. In a "F this" moment I just put everything back together and tried it anyway. Of course it ran exactly as intended, but I spent a couple hours fighting to try and make it tight when it shouldn't have been until it was engaged!
I have a Craftsman T1800 with a 42” deck. I bought two new blades to put on it, before I took off the blades I checked the play in the spindle bearings one had play so I took off the belt pulley half of the ball bearings were missing. Had to order spindle but the deck belt was in stock. The mower is about seven years old still had origin belt & spindles.
Great video good information. I have a Dixie chopper trying to find a 42 inch deck😊
Great vids and I strongly approve of your choice in beer.
It is not just the width of the belt but the depth will vary as well from manufacture to manufacture
I have a toro 16 hp and I can adjust the tension on the belt when it does start to wear out but you do need the right size belt
Always be sure you put ALL the parts on when you reinstall the deck. Forgot to put that ‘cage’ over the PTO on my Cub Cadet. Didn’t know that cage is supposed to keep the PTO rotating. Ripped the wiring off. A $25 DIY job cost me over $250 with parts and shop charges.