LOL! Dude… Did you seriously just equate the Deftones to _Static-X and Mudvayne????!!!_ *Wtf!?!* Deftones is TOP-tier music, and Mudvayne is a crappy Pearl Jam knock off like Creed or Nickelback... and who tf is Static-X?! I worked for the music industry in the late 90s and early 2000s, and whoever Static-X is, they certainly weren’t memorable! You lost so much respect here for daring to compare the awesomeness of CKY and Deftones to that utter CRAP! Dang, dude.
@@Phat2art I got their crappy band name confused with another shitty band that also starts with an M that was a Pearl Jam rip-off (I can’t think of their name atm, but I’m almost positive it starts with an M and it might even has the word mud in it). Mudvayne was still super shitty though. Fukkin’ nu-metal garbage. It’s utterly revolting to put them in the same breath as Deftones, so it doesn’t change my point. Edit: The PJ rip-off band I was thinking of was Puddle of Mudd (the extra ‘d’ isn’t a typo). It doesn’t start with an M, but definitely had the word Mud in it and even has that same annoying misspelling thing that so many crappy bands did back then.
CKY may just be the ultimate "ya had to be there" sort of band. Everyone I know of my age loves this band and I don't know anyone outside my age group who knows or cares. Infiltrate. Destroy. Rebuild. is a 10.
They are our generations' great white buffalo or magical unicorn. Where you gotta be 30-40yrs old (now) to know their work extensively. The nostalgia this band brings me is unreal
There's a band called Nema, it's Christian metalcore but everyone's telling me they sound like cky, so I demand your answer. Check their song "Shake and Bake"
If you havnt, check out galactic prey by foreign objects ( deron's death metal project ) One of my favorite albums of the decade, deron is a riff machine!!!
@@Mike-ix5sv I'm playing Test It Out right now as I read this comment. Did you check out the re-release of the first Foreign Objects CD with James Murphy (From Testament) soloing over the tracks?
You know what would be fun? Well for me,at least. Listing some of the bands that statement is true of. 1) Pink Floyd 2) The Beatles 3) Pantera 4) The Police 5) Fleetwood Mac 6) Black Sabbath It's probably best to just stop myself right there. I have no doubt that number could grow to triple digits with enough thought out into it.
I finally found the most "vanilla" VH1 BTM episode. It's the Neil Diamond one. No drug mishaps, no crashed sports cars, no motel rooms fulla hookers and blow....He had one divorce and his bass guitarist's wife had a rough pregnancy. "Neil Diamond: The Jewish Elvis". Neil Diamond's biggest "Oopsie" was black-face in "The Jazz Singer", but even THAT was based on the original Jazz Singer with Al Jolson.
@@troyevitt2437 kind of makes you wonder why they even bothered to make the episode, doesn't it!? I guess that I'm not too surprised that Neil Diamond didn't have the type of personal turmoil going on behind the scenes that we've come to associate with that show. All of those types of problems are clichés typically associated with rock musicians. I bet that someone like Barry Manilow probably has a similarly devoid of drama backstory.
CKY man…takes me right back to 2003. Young kid. Skateboarding everyday with zero responsibilities. Bam Margera, Jackass, HIM…Fond memories! 96 quite bitter beings is an outstanding guitar riff. They had some good tunes
The HIM thing is so weird. Just because margera had an obsessive man crush on Ville Valo, they became a thing in US skate culture of that time and huge with the kids who watched jackass. But their actual style and sound was romantic, goth, dark rock/metal. And that's what they were in Europe. And then suddenly in America... skateboarding. It was just so strange and didn't fit together.
@@Maialeen yeah, I agree. But that’s how culture works. A band starts showing up and being associated with something else and it just grows on people and takes a life of its own. Perfect example: what just happened with Metallica and Stranger Things
@@Maialeen Tbf, most of the world wouldn't have known who HIM were if it wasn't for Bam so yeah, that association with skating as seemingly unfitting as it is, is always going to be there. Worth mentioning that a lot of skaters were also getting into the whole emo thing in the mid 00s and HIM fit perfectly into that.
0:17 Im not even a fan of this band at all and I still recognize this riff being a classic among "Smoke On The Water", "Master Of Puppets", "Welcome To The Jungle" and "Smells Like Teen Spirit" Some riffs are just THAT GOOD that no matter if you are fan or not, they gonna stick to your brain forever.
Brings back some great memories, being 17-18 in the early 2000s, listening to CKY, watching the videos then getting drunk with my mates and jumping off roofs, throwing ourselves around in shopping trolleys, setting each other on fire, etc. In retrospect, I'm surprised no one was seriously injured 😅
damn right i turned 18 in 2002 i was watching cky2k at age 16 we definitely had already did lots of some very questionable acts while drinking liquor too fast while doing hella blow😅
haha yes. We used to jump our bikes off home made ramps into big piles of cardboard and eat shit every time. Jumping off a 15 foot cliff into 5 feet of water, throwing eggs at cars. Good times
This band was always underrated in my opinion. I think them being attached at the hip to Bam Margera was a double edged sword. Due to Bam obviously increasing their popularity in the 2000's but also making them categorized by so many as just skater rock music. They are a great band and had unique guitar riffs and lyrics. Ultimately I think their height will rest in the 2000's skate scene which their is nothing wrong with that. Im 28 and CKY was my first concert in 2005 I was in 5th grade and it was sorta their height with Viva La Bam ect. They are great live. Ill always love this band. Thanks for the video!
Replying as a second upvote because I think this point is underrated. Setting aside the skill and talent, from a strictly marketing perspective it sounds like they had pretty clearly fallen into a "niche" market. Someone with a more subtle market sense than it sounds like Deron M. had probably could've done something about it--but then again, he clearly didn't want to and it doesn't sound like his real fans wanted him to, either. Maybe this was exactly the type of success this band was made for?
@@Aaron-bh5fx Same here. Saw them in 2002 and Chad drank an entire bottle of Jim Beam in the hour they were on stage. By the end of the show, he could barely stand but somehow was playing guitar perfectly. Those guys were crazy
My band actually opened for them in Amsterdam back in 2009 on the day they were dropped by Roadrunner. They were not in a good mood that day. They raided our backstage and took our dr. Peppers from the fridge xD
As a former skater and self-described punk rocker, I was a massive fan in the early 2000's. But I was also young and dumb. Then I grew up. Now looking back, I realize that they were exceedingly shitty people. And none of this surprises me. Brandon Dicamillo might be the only exception. It's no surprise that he dropped out of the whole thing and now lives a quiet, anonymous life.
Totally agree it was weird looking back on these guys who I thought were cool when I was a teenager and now as an adult I realize just how much they actually sucked. Still enjoy the music but I understand why they fell apart.
CKY was definitely one of my "gateway to harder metal" bands back in late elementary/ early middle school! i was a little skate rat + that landspeed video absolutely rocked all of our little minds at the time. these guys were hugely influential in so many of us "groms" growing up into actual sponsored skaters (not me lol) or harder music fans. CKY was a truly bonding glue in that era/ scene. I have friends I still talk to 20-25 years later bc we originally met in a skate park wearing CKY merch. awesome video Finn!
What I find most interesting about everyone associated with CKY (the skate video and the band) is how pathetic and unhappy most of them are today, with a few exceptions (Rake, Dicamillo, Raab, Jesse). Like, these guys were my childhood and most of my teenage debauchery revolved around their antics. As an adult in his 30's I see them as more of a cautionary tale (Bam, Chad, Dunn, Deron) I still love their music.
I met Rake in a GameStop like a decade ago and he was disappointed at first until I mentioned the gaming website he was working on with dicamillo at the time. We talked about demons souls afterwards and he was super cool. You could tell he was not about the cky infamy and wanted to be respected for being himself. Fucking badass dude
I played a show with CKY in 2000 It was In Asbury "Casino" Skatepark ..When I was in As Darkness Falls.. Point being.. IT FUCKING ROCKED! And I skated during their whole set- and landed some huge ass tricks! They got me stoked! Thanks for the memories CKY! Great Vid Fin!
I guitar teched for CKY in 2011 towards the end. I was roommates with their bass player at the time. It was hard at first but it became fun. Chad's gear was a hodge podge of all these rack units and a wireless from the 90s that hardly worked correctly. But obviously when it worked well it sounded good. Darren used a Marshall DSL 2000 with a Boss synth wah, octave driver and a TU-2 tuner. His shit ALWAYS worked, everyday. Darren was nutty at times and would wander off but I always liked him. He played Best In Show for like five days straight on the bus. Thanks to Darren I'm a better fan of Mel Brooks. I have nothing bad to say about any of them. They're all unique people. Chad was difficult to relate to at first but I ended up really liking him in the end...as I figured out how to get his rig to last a night of songs. They're a great band. I still like jamming to them.
@@darrynmccartney1118 I feel like not being able to spell lends MORE credence to his claim. My old guitarist had my old drummer's name wrong for years.
@@Chunkypumpkinhead sounds like amateur hour to me. If you can't spell the name right for someone you work with or alongside, then it's more than likely bullshit you ever worked with them.
Alcohol is a serious problem. I'm over 5½ years sober. At my worst, I was consuming a bit over a ½ gallon a day. I went to rehab in Massachusetts, it took me about 12 hours to get there and the plane only gave me 2 drinks and then 1 from Chicago to Connecticut. I was withdrawaling badly pulling into the rehab. My bac was .40 That would kill 90% of people. I was withdrawaling. Meaning, I was likely functioning with a .6-.7. I know that's extremely difficult to believe, but, it's the truth. I drank heavily for 20+ years. I got really bad, about the last 6-7 years. Hospital bills and lawyer/court fee's, equal about 2½ houses paid for. I don't miss that shit at all. I fully expect to die earlier than I should. I damaged my body pretty good. If you can control your drinking, cheers! If you're honest with yourself and you know you're getting out of control, get help.
I've been listening to HIM and CKY since the Haggard movie/soundtrack came out back in the day. I'd love to see your take on HIM, especially now that they've disbanded.
@@ChillPillDyl For those interested - Haggard is here on UA-cam in full. Just search it. Very underrated movie - actually pretty decent acting, more than most would expect. It's akin to Kevin Smith/Jay and Silent Bob films - but with that familiar CKY/Bam/Jackass kind of humor. It really is just CKY 5 - but with a script, screen-play, a storyline and characters. Shit, I discovered Amorphis thanks to that movie (Black Winter Day is in it). Also, for those fans who know some of the real-life stories from the guys - some of the story-line is based on a true story, just exaggerated to hell and back, lol. If you know, you know.
CKY shows from like 2002-2006 were just a fun time. The band/fans were such a close knit group that just loved the music and wanted to have fun at every show. Saw them countless times in NY/NJ/PA/CT. Driving all over to shows alone, but then meeting up with CKY Alliance members who were friends/family.
I saw CKY in Los Angeles in that timeframe and this crazy band with like, robots or animatronics or something opened for them… I’ll give 1 million dollars to whoever can tell me the name of that band 😫 I was like 13 and it felt like a fever dream. But my brother remembers it too so I know it was real
No mention of chads off the chain drinking problem? I know deron was a problem but it seems disingenuous to not mention chads issues. Also worth mentioning is how many bass players went through that band.
@@SmashAtoms saw them live in 2003. He drank a whole bottle of jack before the set was over. I believe he got so wasted he forgot he was at gg's grave.
The Foreign Objects material is amazing. And it was made by kids, basically. Still blows my mind to this day. The first 3 CKY records are also great, and I still enjoy them to this day.
I'm a HIM fan... which lead me to CKY. The 3 albums they did were classics and I still find them randomly playing in my head. Before they released Inhuman Creation Station, I had a dream that wasn't quite like the video or anything, but the place in my dream had a sign that read the same. CKY will always be a part of me. Sad to see what they've become.
Deron was absolutely 100% the problem in the band. That being said though, I agree with the opinion that 96 Bitter Beings sounds more like CKY than CKY itself these days because Deron honestly WAS CKY. My personal experience meeting him a few times was nothing but pleasant and was shocked to find out I was in the minority until much later. Sucks he turned out to be a jerk
I went to a lot of CKY shows in the early 2000s. It was always so cool how after every show they would come out to the parking lot and meet fans. I remember one time they missed their flight because they choose to stay and sign stuff for every fan there. The good days.
I saw them most recently a few years ago at Warped Tour when they were promoting The Phoenix album. CiG was just casually hanging out in their merch booth smoking, and then after the show I ran into Matt Dies escorting a couple ladies to their car. He took a pic with me and then took off on his scooter. So down to earth and didnt seem bothered by fans approaching them at all.
I saw them maybe around 2005?? I can’t remember I was so young, but this band that literally had animatronics/robots opened for them and I’m prepared to reward anyone for the name of that band 😩
'Carver City' and 'Infiltrate Destroy Rebuild' were CKY's best albums in my opinion, if you liked these you should also check out 'Foreign objects' (CKY before it was cky)
96 quite bitter things is straight up iconic to me as a skater punk teenager when it came out. Tony Hawk's soundtrack in general was absolute fire back then. But other than that song I never really found any of their other music to be appealing.
I saw CKY in 2007 at pier pressure a one day festival in Sweden. The things I remember is their energy and that the singer drank a bottle of JD at stage 😅 I still listen to them
I believe I saw CKY live at a gig once. I remember wearing my F U CKY ou, hoodie back in 2005, I'm still in the same town but a different person now. Their music was great to a teen / young twentysomething, but people who you once thought were cool when you were young and self destructive, well, you now realise they weren't.
I agree, they could have been legends like Korn, Slipknot or at the very least the Mudvayne tier of influence/respect if they didn't let their problems tear themselves apart! The three bands I just mentioned also battled drugs, metal illness, loss, and conflicts over creative differences. Fortunately those bands managed to do the impossible and (for the most part) stick together and overcome their personal demons. Some bands manage to win that battle, others loose, its just the way it goes I suppose. I agree 100% with what you said about their influence. I was a little late to the CKY party as I (am not a skater and) discover them on Myspace during that era. They quickly became one of my favorite bands and one of my Mom's least favorite bands! Fond memories of blasting them through the speakers every chance I got!
CKY had a lot going for them in the early 2000s. Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3, Jackass/CKY Videos, opening up for Guns N Roses. But there was so much internal conflicts as well as external, as they were mismarketed by their record label, so they had to depend their entire existence on Bam Margera.
I'm making this comment to immortalize CKY was an opener for Alien Ant Farm on a European tour. Chad was being shitty to everyone and when the singer of AAF tried to talk to him, Chad punched him in the face. Now they are kicked off the tour. I really wanna see 96 Bitter Beings take their spot on the tour.
Unpopular Opinion: I really liked The Phoenix! Favorite song is still 96 Quite Bitter Beings and favorite album being Carver City, I still like The Phoenix considering lineup and sound change. Still has that familiar energy and potential to be what they were.
One of the best concerts I have ever been to was a CKY show in a Scranton bar called Tinks. They came out after Atreyu and had to break the news that there wouldn't be a singer cause he was sick. But rather than reschedule they pulled people up from the crowd to do the craziest most punk rock karaoke.
CKY is one of the best bands ever! I discovered them when I was young thru the obvious way (bam) and liked their music. After years of not really listening to them I was older and had gone thru a major shift in my musical taste and when they came to mind for the first time in years I wanted to go back and get a hit of nostalgia secretly expecting that I wouldn't like it as much as I did then just like a lot of bands I somehow liked when I was 14 that give me stomach aches today. When I went back to CKY though, I became an even bigger fan than I was when I was younger! As a kid I thought the songs were cool (not to mention the bam/jackass connection) but now purely for its musical integrity I've come to realize what an amazing songwriter and guitar player Deron is! I'm so glad you covered them because like you said they get overlooked by most of the metal/music community.
So, as someone who personally knows Chad and (to a lesser extent) Jess, I can confirm that Deron was the biggest issue, if not the only issue. The incident in which Deron caught them "talking shit" about him wasn't like he claimed it was. Chad and Jess were on the bus discussing their concerns about Deron's drinking as not only was it harming the band, he was harming himself. Deron didn't like this, so he started a fight. After Deron left the band, he left a number of anti-semitic voicemails on Chad's phone. I'm sure Chad and Jess probably had their own issues and stuff back then, but in the years I've known them, they've been happy, loving what they're doing, and dedicated to the band. Genuinely two of the nicest guys you'll ever meet.
Deron Miller is a musical genius. Infiltrate Destroy Rebuild is still one of the greatest albums of all time, and was WAAAAY ahead of it's time, sound wise. For those of you who are out of the loop, check out Deron's current band 96 Bitter Beings. They're going on tour again this year, and still hit pretty good.
I know 96 Quite Bitter Beings is their most famous and generally most beloved song, but mine will always be Escape from Hellview. Beyond a really amazing series of riffs, the lyrics are awesome. I remember listening to that song for the first time in highschool and I immediately had to start drawing because the lyrics and the story painted such a vivid image in my mind.
"The band went on without Chad" Proceeds to show footage of the band live with Daniel Davies and Chad. Then said Deis was a new bassist in 2017. Bro, sloppy research.
The connections with this band to horror films should not go understated as well. Deron met, courted and married, Felissa Rose. The star of Sleepaway Camp, who's iconic image was used on the cover of CKY's EP Disengage the Simulator. She contacted him after seeing her face on a shirt he was wearing on an episode of Jackass. I'm also surprised nothing more was mentioned of Daniel Davies. He is the son of Dave Davies from The Kinks, and is the godson of director and composer John Carpenter, whom he currently tours with.
I remember the first time I saw cky back in the early 00s, they played with clutch and some guy in the crowd spat on stage and the next thing you see is a bottle of JD flew threw the air and then bam comes flying out and just wailing on the dude, I thought it was mental as kid because I hadn't been to too many gigs back then
They were my first concert that wasn't a band my parents listened to. It was free in a mall parking lot and I got to see Mike Vallely skate and perform with Revolution Mother.
now fckng imagine my excitement when hearing they would tour in the UK and I finally could go and see them live 🤩 teenage me would die straight on the spot! heck, I even made my bestie tailor her visa application dates to join me, that would be so FUN..! and now imagine my face reading about the shite that happened between them and AAF (which they where co-touting with) with the announcement of c.k.y. falling out of it.. i releally don't wanna sound overly dramatic, but I'm heartbroken and devastated 💀 the dream i never dreamed, yet was presented to me only to be taken away from 10 days before THE gig..
I just saw them (what's left) for the first time live after being a big fan for 25 years. I knew it was not going to sound like the CKY I was used to. I'm glad that I went because the songs are nostalgic for me, but not dicredit them, basically sounded like a cover band because it was missing Deron's guitar sound and vocals.
Was gonna comment this myself until I saw yours. He was really the only bassist of theirs I considered an actual member after Vern left, and helped record AACBF.
I worked with Matt in an office job from 2015-2017 before the business closed. Incredibly nice, put-together, down to earth guy. Completely unassuming. He recently rejoined All That Remains (he was with them before CKY).
@@timflint25 Met Matt randomly escorting a female friend to her car after one of their shows. He was almost as excited to meet me as I was him. He seemed genuinely surprised that someone recognized him. It was at a festival and they were kind of passed over by the younger crowd that was there. He took a pic with me, signed my shirt, then thanked me for coming to the show before hopping on his scooter and taking off.
Great video! The fact that Vern is almost non existent from CKY lore has always been intriguing to me. Also I remember hearing rumours that the fight on the bus included Deron throwing a laptop and destroying things before he was jumped. I saw them in 05 and 09. Good times.
Executive Summary: ### Early Beginnings In the early 90s, CKY began as a collaboration between teenage friends Darren Miller and Jess Margera. Their friendship started in a high school math class in 1992 and soon evolved into a creative partnership. Their initial musical endeavor was a progressive metal band named Foreign Objects. However, it was their next band, Oil, that laid the groundwork for what CKY would become. For instance, the song "Genesis 12a" would later appear in the CKY video "jump off a building" in 1998, solidifying their sonic identity. ### The Skateboarding Connection Parallel to their musical journey, Jess's brother Bam Margera was carving out a name for himself in the skateboarding and filmmaking scenes. Bam's use of CKY's music in his skate videos, particularly the Toy Machine video "Jump off a Building," played a significant role in promoting the band. However, their real breakthrough came in 1999 with the release of Bam's first CKY video under the Wheel Company Landspeed. This underground hit in the skateboarding community propelled CKY into the spotlight, selling over a million copies and cementing their status amongst fans globally. ### Major Label Success The skateboarding community's embrace of CKY's music didn't go unnoticed. Despite having no initial industry backing, CKY sold 50,000 copies of their album before it even hit record stores, a testament to their grassroots popularity. This success led to a major label deal with Island Def Jam. Subsequently, CKY released their major label debut "Infiltrate•Destroy•Rebuild" in 2003. The album featured the lead single "Flesh into Gear," which garnered mainstream attention, especially featured in the CKY2K video. At this point, they were part of the colossal "Jackass" phenomenon and even got to open for Guns N' Roses at the request of Axl Rose. ### Internal Conflicts and Turmoil Despite their growing success, internal conflicts began to surface. The band's love for partying and chaotic behavior caught up with them, exemplified by a costly $28,000 hotel bill resulting from a destructive food fight. The chaos extended beyond their hotel rooms; a dispute with Rolling Stone over a one-star review saw fans bombarding the magazine's writer with copies of CKY’s album. The band's internal discord was further fueled by creative and personal differences. Tensions reached a peak during their tour in San Diego, leading to a physical altercation among band members. Darren Miller, the band's founder and primary songwriter, eventually quit the band in 2011, citing various reasons, including the lack of communication and support from his bandmates. ### Attempted Comeback and Further Drift Despite Darren's departure, CKY attempted to persevere. They went on to release Carver City in 2009 under Roadrunner Records, an album inspired by a fictional town created by the band. The album received favorable reviews but failed to bring the band back to their peak popularity. The creative rift between members became increasingly evident, with each having different visions for CKY’s future. Darren and Jess favored a collective solo project approach, while Chad Ginsburg opposed it, leading to more friction. In 2011, Darren officially left the band, highlighting his struggles with alcohol and his increasing isolation from the CKY community. His departure suggested the end of CKY as fans knew it since Darren was not just the primary songwriter but also the band's creative heart. ### New Lineups and Legal Battles In the following years, CKY experienced several lineup changes, with significant departures and new additions. Despite the chaos, they made a brief return, playing at Australia’s Soundwave Festival in 2012. However, this comeback wasn't smooth sailing. Darren disputed the band's right to continue using the CKY name, a claim complicated by Bam's ownership of the trademark. By 2016, CKY returned with a new trio, featuring Chad Ginsburg on vocals and guitar, Jess Margera on drums, and a new bassist. They released "The Phoenix" in 2017. While the album was well-received, many fans felt it lacked the distinct CKY sound that Darren had been integral in crafting. The essence of CKY seemed to have changed, sparking mixed reactions from their loyal fanbase. ### CKY's Enduring Legacy Despite their internal struggles and the changes in their lineup, CKY’s legacy remains influential, particularly to those who grew up with their music in the early 2000s. Their unique blend of heavy yet catchy melodies, progressive elements, and the unconventional aesthetic they maintained distinguished them from other bands of their time. The heavy influence of skateboarding culture and their role in the 'Jackass' franchise further etched CKY in the memories of fans. Even today, their early albums, especially those featuring Darren Miller, are considered cult classics within their genre. ### Darren Miller's New Ventures Darren Miller has continued his musical journey outside of CKY. His death metal project, World Under Blood, received praise within the metal community. Most recently, he joined the old-school death metal band Malevolent Creation, a move that generated controversy due to the band’s problematic history and explicit content. ### Conclusion CKY’s story is one of talent overshadowed by internal discord and chaos. The band’s initial success, built on a unique blend of punk rock and skate culture, gradually unraveled due to personal and creative conflicts. As talented as Darren Miller undoubtedly is, his antics and interpersonal issues heavily influenced CKY’s trajectory. While CKY as it was known may no longer exist, its impact remains, and its music continues to be celebrated by old and new fans alike. Their tale serves as a cautionary example of how even the most promising and beloved bands can fall apart when plagued by internal strife and disagreements. CKY will always be remembered not just for their music but also for their indelible mark on the early 2000s subculture, driven by the rebellious spirit of a generation coming of age amidst skateboards and rock music. Their story, filled with highs and lows, remains a testament to the volatile yet enduring nature of artistic collaboration.
I come from the days of CKY and HIM. I was lucky enough to see the farewell tour where CKY opened, and I had seen them a few times before that. They never sounded better than they did on that tour. Ginsburg is easily the front man they deserve, and it was so obviously clear these guys were better without Darren's perfectionism and tyranny
It's crazy that Jess Margera's side project and Deron Miller's band 96 bitter beings released albums within a week of each other. It was fun to cover these releases and have a blast going back over CKYs music 🌶️
I'm not sure if Deron was the entire problem. I've listened to his interviews and he comes across as a pretty sincere and smart guy. He definitely seems really intense and like you said yeah probably hard to work with. I've been in a few bands and I can honestly tell you most of the time it is not fun at all. You have 4 or 5 people in the room arguing and then you have to see them weekly to jam with and do it all over again. There are a lot of egos and it is probably the easiest way to end a friendship.
Awesome case history there Finn. I was a skater in the 2000s and loved toy machine - still do. This led me to CKY so hearing that iconic riff really brought back some good memories. Thanks F-money!
Disengage the Simulator is still one of the best songs ever. When I worked at an indoor skatepark in highschool I'd put that song on repeat and just cruise the park for an hour before i had to open the doors an get to work.
Oh, the nostalgia of being a teen in the early 2000s. How I feel about CKY, they were a band for rebellious kids but didn't count on those rebellious kids growing up, that happened with a lot of bands from the early 2000s.
I’m in a guitar pedal group on Facebook and just last week someone posted a picture of an octave pedal they bought from Deron, with a note that said “this is THE octave pedal I wrote and recorded all the cky songs with.” Then someone in the comments posted a picture of the exact same thing with the comment “well this is awkward..” I was rolling 😂
CKY were supposed to tour with Alien Ant Farm here in the UK but they got kicked off the tour when Chad I Ginsburg punched Dryden Mitchell in the face. i was so disappointed when i showed up early to see CKY had been replaced with InMe opening for AAF.
When I saw them at a Warped Tour several years ago I had never heard of them and couldn't understand why the crowd was going so ravenous over what was kind of a fairly basic "rawk" group. I thought the crowd was just being ironic and didn't realize this band had a history.
So cool you did this one!! Live at Mr. Smalls Funhouse is one of the best live albums I've heard. World Under Blood is extremely awesome too!! Under the Autumn Low, particularly killer track!!🤘🤘I follow Deron and do remember that "hiring brothers" post. Like, ooooook 🤣🤣
I love CKY and the guys that are currently in the band from 2016 on are all so nice. Deron is so toxic. I've been a fan for ao many years but there was a time when it was so hard to be a fan because of Deron. He didn't send me things so many times and he also blasted me and was calling me a fake fan and all of that when i would ask him for my stuff. He publicly blasted me on Facebook and I was done with him after that. How many times can you rip your fans off and then blame the post office for losing it every time. How can you treat such loyal fans so terribly?? I'm so glad he isn't in the band anymore. He is a talented musician but you can't treat people like shit and expect them to support you! I love the lineup that CKY has now and i love Chad on vocals!
Thanks for covering bands like this! I think it really says a lot about you that you can cover cky and no doubt with it feeling like you genuinely care about the content. You are becoming one of my favorite content creators!
There was also a weird phase just before 96 Quite Bitter Beings formed where Derin Miller essentially tried to hijack / reclaim the band name and got 86’d by Bam Margera’s legal team. He then went on to rename it “CKY + Foreign Objects”, “MechaCKY” and finally just having to let go of the CKY name and settle for 96 Quite Bitter Beings. I met him at one of his shows and man, it was a little depressing. You could tell he was still in the “rockstar” / party mindset but I’d be lying if I said he didn’t still put on one hell of a performance. Also, he pissed a lot of his fans off when he posted a picture of him holding a burning CKY CD on his Facebook page and a lot of people felt like he was disregarding the legacy of the band they all loved so much. Really a strange dude
Really great video to watch as a massive CKY fan from growing up in the 2000s. They were always one of my favourite bands and I was so happy for then when they signed to RR but man they all seemed crazy as fuck and they ruined it. Such a shame as I don't think we'll ever get another incarnation of that sound as good as IDR or AACBF.
Saw them live with a guy named Elvis a couple nights ago. Room had maybe 50 people in it, was so dope and personal. It was only empty cause no one knew they were there lmao.
Those CKY prank vids / songs were a defining part of my childhood, and I never skated once in my life as a midwestern farm boy. That’s how popular they were.
I actually played the opening slot before CKY in Adelaide for the Soundwave festival. Speaking of drinking and fighting, Bam was there and had been in a drunken bar fight with Hell's Angels motorcycle club members the night before.
"The band chose to go on without Chad..." *Plays clip of Daniel Davies led CKY which Chad is clearly in* ... Also the "new bassist" from the 2016 lineup is actually an old bassist that came back...🤷♂️
The problem was Deron Miller becoming a pretentious asshole to not only his bandmates, but all his fans. Any CKY fan that has tried to interact positively with Deron in the past 10-15 years got a giant middle finger to the face. I remember he would aggressively cuss out and guilt trip fans on facebook for not funding his solo project, and even in more recent times, he continues to give interviews completely bashing Chad and Jess. Also, I remember either Jess or Deron saying everything after Infiltrate was not 'genuine CKY'. So, in the band's eyes, even An Answer Can Be Found and Carver City were weak points for CKY. They had already lost momentum way before Deron left, at least in their own personal creativity, if not in fan reception. Even before the band broke up, Deron was already treating everyone horribly - they had a hard time even getting him to show up on time for the music video of A#1 Roller Rager. But as much of an ass as Deron is, he is unquestionably the mastermind. CKY without Deron is missing not only a limb, but the entire body. It's just a shame that he can't seem to treat people around him respectfully.
*They remind of why and how I got into HIM and Turbonegro. I like some of their songs but more than likely just jumped on the viva la bam bandwagon like most kids growing up in the 2000s. Exactly why I started and stopped listening to Cradle of Filth too. But still, a lot of the CKY songs are more nostalgic than anything (to me at least)*
This was a sick video. I got a chance to interview Deron Miller a few months back and it went really well. Considering the strangeness that Deron has gotten himself into over the years he does seem to be a genuinely well meaning guy. I'm still hoping that some day soon they get back together for a proper reunion cuz the whole situation is just so rough.
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yo man do you think Adema are worth making a video on? for some reason, I'm reminded of them watching this one.
LOL! Dude… Did you seriously just equate the Deftones to _Static-X and Mudvayne????!!!_ *Wtf!?!* Deftones is TOP-tier music, and Mudvayne is a crappy Pearl Jam knock off like Creed or Nickelback... and who tf is Static-X?! I worked for the music industry in the late 90s and early 2000s, and whoever Static-X is, they certainly weren’t memorable!
You lost so much respect here for daring to compare the awesomeness of CKY and Deftones to that utter CRAP! Dang, dude.
@@anti-ethniccleansing465 did you say mudvayne rip off pearl jam? 😂
@@Phat2art
I got their crappy band name confused with another shitty band that also starts with an M that was a Pearl Jam rip-off (I can’t think of their name atm, but I’m almost positive it starts with an M and it might even has the word mud in it). Mudvayne was still super shitty though. Fukkin’ nu-metal garbage. It’s utterly revolting to put them in the same breath as Deftones, so it doesn’t change my point.
Edit: The PJ rip-off band I was thinking of was Puddle of Mudd (the extra ‘d’ isn’t a typo). It doesn’t start with an M, but definitely had the word Mud in it and even has that same annoying misspelling thing that so many crappy bands did back then.
Reads like weakness
CKY may just be the ultimate "ya had to be there" sort of band. Everyone I know of my age loves this band and I don't know anyone outside my age group who knows or cares. Infiltrate. Destroy. Rebuild. is a 10.
Limp Bizkit might slot in right behind them
I'm 20 and they were the first experimental punk type band I liked
@@dropdead8886 not even close to “experimental punk”. Cky is almost the definition of late era “nu-metal”.
Fact
They are our generations' great white buffalo or magical unicorn. Where you gotta be 30-40yrs old (now) to know their work extensively. The nostalgia this band brings me is unreal
What I loved about CKY is that they didn't sound like any other band. They had a unique sound and it rocked but was also catchy. Underrated band imo
There's a band called Nema, it's Christian metalcore but everyone's telling me they sound like cky, so I demand your answer.
Check their song "Shake and Bake"
Ultimately
@@javierriveros9833ain’t nobody on a cky video trying to listen to a Christian rock band lol. Not trying to be a dick just saying
@@diddyfaplord doesn't cky means Christians Kool yiberish?
Javier Riveros Why don't you go sit in the corner for a little while.
“Infiltrate. Destroy. Rebuild.” is one of my personal 10/10 no skips albums.
10.. the exact number of tracks on that album
Me, too.
Too true, such a good album from start to finish
Congratulations
Yep...
Deron Miller is a riff monster, his 96 Bitter Beings riffs are fantastic.
Shame he’s such a vile person.
If you havnt, check out galactic prey by foreign objects ( deron's death metal project )
One of my favorite albums of the decade, deron is a riff machine!!!
@@Mike-ix5sv I'm playing Test It Out right now as I read this comment. Did you check out the re-release of the first Foreign Objects CD with James Murphy (From Testament) soloing over the tracks?
@@celebratedeth362 I havnt but I will, thanks for the info
Disengage the Simulator has an all-time riff too.
"But behind the scenes, things were getting ugly..."
The hallmark of all great VH1 Behind the Music episodes
Very true.
You know what would be fun? Well for me,at least. Listing some of the bands that statement is true of.
1) Pink Floyd
2) The Beatles
3) Pantera
4) The Police
5) Fleetwood Mac
6) Black Sabbath
It's probably best to just stop myself right there. I have no doubt that number could grow to triple digits with enough thought out into it.
"But offstage....things were falling apart"
I finally found the most "vanilla" VH1 BTM episode. It's the Neil Diamond one. No drug mishaps, no crashed sports cars, no motel rooms fulla hookers and blow....He had one divorce and his bass guitarist's wife had a rough pregnancy. "Neil Diamond: The Jewish Elvis". Neil Diamond's biggest "Oopsie" was black-face in "The Jazz Singer", but even THAT was based on the original Jazz Singer with Al Jolson.
@@troyevitt2437 kind of makes you wonder why they even bothered to make the episode, doesn't it!? I guess that I'm not too surprised that Neil Diamond didn't have the type of personal turmoil going on behind the scenes that we've come to associate with that show. All of those types of problems are clichés typically associated with rock musicians. I bet that someone like Barry Manilow probably has a similarly devoid of drama backstory.
Without watching a single second of this: yes, the problem was obvious. They wrote the best riff on earth too soon.
CKY man…takes me right back to 2003. Young kid. Skateboarding everyday with zero responsibilities. Bam Margera, Jackass, HIM…Fond memories! 96 quite bitter beings is an outstanding guitar riff. They had some good tunes
Yep. Bam margera was my hero.
Never liked HIM.
The HIM thing is so weird. Just because margera had an obsessive man crush on Ville Valo, they became a thing in US skate culture of that time and huge with the kids who watched jackass. But their actual style and sound was romantic, goth, dark rock/metal. And that's what they were in Europe. And then suddenly in America... skateboarding. It was just so strange and didn't fit together.
@@Maialeen yeah, I agree. But that’s how culture works. A band starts showing up and being associated with something else and it just grows on people and takes a life of its own. Perfect example: what just happened with Metallica and Stranger Things
@@Maialeen Tbf, most of the world wouldn't have known who HIM were if it wasn't for Bam so yeah, that association with skating as seemingly unfitting as it is, is always going to be there. Worth mentioning that a lot of skaters were also getting into the whole emo thing in the mid 00s and HIM fit perfectly into that.
"Escape From Hellview" and "Flesh Into Gear" are very nostalgic and very important songs to me.
Flesh Into Gear is a favorite of mine for sure, cheers bro
Same here
Sink into the underground is one for me
And 96 quite bitter beings
No no no , familiar realm , come back and tell me thank you , your welcome
0:17 Im not even a fan of this band at all and I still recognize this riff being a classic among "Smoke On The Water", "Master Of Puppets", "Welcome To The Jungle" and "Smells Like Teen Spirit"
Some riffs are just THAT GOOD that no matter if you are fan or not, they gonna stick to your brain forever.
Uh, no it’s not, not even close.
I would never have expected to see you in the comments for a cKy video of all places, Ced!
@@ATDStudios Haha! I watch most Punkrock MBA videos ;) and as said, not a listener, but that riff is classic!
@@murphyfromthegrave2306 easily is
Well, definitely recognizable
Brings back some great memories, being 17-18 in the early 2000s, listening to CKY, watching the videos then getting drunk with my mates and jumping off roofs, throwing ourselves around in shopping trolleys, setting each other on fire, etc. In retrospect, I'm surprised no one was seriously injured 😅
damn right i turned 18 in 2002 i was watching cky2k at age 16 we definitely had already did lots of some very questionable acts while drinking liquor too fast while doing hella blow😅
Lol good times
haha yes. We used to jump our bikes off home made ramps into big piles of cardboard and eat shit every time. Jumping off a 15 foot cliff into 5 feet of water, throwing eggs at cars. Good times
These guys are still on my daily rotation. Carver City is a phenomenal album and everyone needs to listen to it.
Yeah. Definitely underrated album.
Backed 100%
Agreed
The sequel to Carver City recently came out and it's amazing, SYNERGY RESTORED
Me too!!!!!
That 99QBB riff is one of THE BEST riffs of all time.
CKY Vol. 1 was such a great album. Riff machines! They could just never break their association with Bam
Volume 1 will always be a top 10 album for me, every song had a perfectly crafted riff in it.
@@pentexsucks43 the secret track at the end!
Why would they He put them on the map & is brothers w the drummer
his brothers the literal drummer lol of course they couldn’t 😂
@@Lateralus1007 because he is trash
Deron is an amazong song writer. Even his new shit with 96bb is awesome. Very underrated song writer. An absolute riff machine.
CKY truly had an original sound it's a shame they fell apart.
So listen to 96 Bitter Beings, it’s basically present CKY 👌🏻
@@craze77It’s like a cover band. Deron and a bunch of dad rockers. Deron had the substance and Jess and Chad had the style. They need each other.
@@Very-old-mantf you talking about 96 bitter beings is original music none of which is covering anything
This band was always underrated in my opinion. I think them being attached at the hip to Bam Margera was a double edged sword. Due to Bam obviously increasing their popularity in the 2000's but also making them categorized by so many as just skater rock music. They are a great band and had unique guitar riffs and lyrics. Ultimately I think their height will rest in the 2000's skate scene which their is nothing wrong with that. Im 28 and CKY was my first concert in 2005 I was in 5th grade and it was sorta their height with Viva La Bam ect. They are great live. Ill always love this band. Thanks for the video!
Replying as a second upvote because I think this point is underrated. Setting aside the skill and talent, from a strictly marketing perspective it sounds like they had pretty clearly fallen into a "niche" market. Someone with a more subtle market sense than it sounds like Deron M. had probably could've done something about it--but then again, he clearly didn't want to and it doesn't sound like his real fans wanted him to, either.
Maybe this was exactly the type of success this band was made for?
Man I miss the old CKY. Saw them live a bunch of time between 2002 and 2004. They played a lot of shows in Southern California. They were fun live.
His new band sounds identical to that.
First band I ever went to see live
@@Aaron-bh5fx Same here. Saw them in 2002 and Chad drank an entire bottle of Jim Beam in the hour they were on stage. By the end of the show, he could barely stand but somehow was playing guitar perfectly. Those guys were crazy
They were technically TIGHT live too.. very good
My band actually opened for them in Amsterdam back in 2009 on the day they were dropped by Roadrunner. They were not in a good mood that day. They raided our backstage and took our dr. Peppers from the fridge xD
😂😂
The scoundrels!
One of the most underrated rock bands I can think of. A weird concept of how die hard fans were great for the band, but maybe a barrier too.
As a former skater and self-described punk rocker, I was a massive fan in the early 2000's. But I was also young and dumb. Then I grew up. Now looking back, I realize that they were exceedingly shitty people. And none of this surprises me. Brandon Dicamillo might be the only exception. It's no surprise that he dropped out of the whole thing and now lives a quiet, anonymous life.
Totally agree it was weird looking back on these guys who I thought were cool when I was a teenager and now as an adult I realize just how much they actually sucked. Still enjoy the music but I understand why they fell apart.
To this day I’ve never heard a band that sounds like deron era CKY. Such a unique sound, love those albums
“Disengage the Simulator” one of my all time favorite jams by CKY 🤘🎸
CKY was definitely one of my "gateway to harder metal" bands back in late elementary/ early middle school! i was a little skate rat + that landspeed video absolutely rocked all of our little minds at the time. these guys were hugely influential in so many of us "groms" growing up into actual sponsored skaters (not me lol) or harder music fans. CKY was a truly bonding glue in that era/ scene. I have friends I still talk to 20-25 years later bc we originally met in a skate park wearing CKY merch. awesome video Finn!
What I find most interesting about everyone associated with CKY (the skate video and the band) is how pathetic and unhappy most of them are today, with a few exceptions (Rake, Dicamillo, Raab, Jesse). Like, these guys were my childhood and most of my teenage debauchery revolved around their antics. As an adult in his 30's I see them as more of a cautionary tale (Bam, Chad, Dunn, Deron) I still love their music.
I met Rake in a GameStop like a decade ago and he was disappointed at first until I mentioned the gaming website he was working on with dicamillo at the time. We talked about demons souls afterwards and he was super cool. You could tell he was not about the cky infamy and wanted to be respected for being himself. Fucking badass dude
You’re projecting hard dude
I played a show with CKY in 2000 It was In Asbury "Casino" Skatepark ..When I was in As Darkness Falls.. Point being.. IT FUCKING ROCKED! And I skated during their whole set- and landed some huge ass tricks! They got me stoked! Thanks for the memories CKY! Great Vid Fin!
I guitar teched for CKY in 2011 towards the end. I was roommates with their bass player at the time. It was hard at first but it became fun. Chad's gear was a hodge podge of all these rack units and a wireless from the 90s that hardly worked correctly. But obviously when it worked well it sounded good. Darren used a Marshall DSL 2000 with a Boss synth wah, octave driver and a TU-2 tuner. His shit ALWAYS worked, everyday. Darren was nutty at times and would wander off but I always liked him. He played Best In Show for like five days straight on the bus. Thanks to Darren I'm a better fan of Mel Brooks. I have nothing bad to say about any of them. They're all unique people. Chad was difficult to relate to at first but I ended up really liking him in the end...as I figured out how to get his rig to last a night of songs. They're a great band. I still like jamming to them.
I doubt you were a tech for them, considering you don't even know how to spell Derons name 😂
@@darrynmccartney1118 I feel like not being able to spell lends MORE credence to his claim. My old guitarist had my old drummer's name wrong for years.
@@Chunkypumpkinhead sounds like amateur hour to me. If you can't spell the name right for someone you work with or alongside, then it's more than likely bullshit you ever worked with them.
@@Chunkypumpkinhead yeah but your band and band members are unknown. Cky are relatively famous.
@@billjim334 Dude I'm in Creed.
To All Of You was my favorite track from them. So many memories come flooding when that plays. CKY was such a great band.
Such a good song. I like chasing that one down with Don't hold your Breath. They sure knew how to tug at the heartstrings!
@@KingKickass69 My man. Hahah. That they did.
Love that song
That song gives me the chills.
Alcohol is a serious problem.
I'm over 5½ years sober.
At my worst, I was consuming a bit over a ½ gallon a day.
I went to rehab in Massachusetts, it took me about 12 hours to get there and the plane only gave me 2 drinks and then 1 from Chicago to Connecticut. I was withdrawaling badly pulling into the rehab.
My bac was .40
That would kill 90% of people.
I was withdrawaling.
Meaning, I was likely functioning with a .6-.7.
I know that's extremely difficult to believe, but, it's the truth.
I drank heavily for 20+ years.
I got really bad, about the last 6-7 years.
Hospital bills and lawyer/court fee's, equal about 2½ houses paid for.
I don't miss that shit at all.
I fully expect to die earlier than I should.
I damaged my body pretty good.
If you can control your drinking, cheers!
If you're honest with yourself and you know you're getting out of control, get help.
Glad to hear you are doing better now!
I've been listening to HIM and CKY since the Haggard movie/soundtrack came out back in the day. I'd love to see your take on HIM, especially now that they've disbanded.
Haggard! So few know about this amazing gem
Fucking loved Haggard
@Your Wrong that's a good way to look at it
"You guys heard the new Gnarkill cd?"
@@ChillPillDyl For those interested - Haggard is here on UA-cam in full. Just search it. Very underrated movie - actually pretty decent acting, more than most would expect. It's akin to Kevin Smith/Jay and Silent Bob films - but with that familiar CKY/Bam/Jackass kind of humor.
It really is just CKY 5 - but with a script, screen-play, a storyline and characters. Shit, I discovered Amorphis thanks to that movie (Black Winter Day is in it).
Also, for those fans who know some of the real-life stories from the guys - some of the story-line is based on a true story, just exaggerated to hell and back, lol. If you know, you know.
CKY shows from like 2002-2006 were just a fun time. The band/fans were such a close knit group that just loved the music and wanted to have fun at every show. Saw them countless times in NY/NJ/PA/CT. Driving all over to shows alone, but then meeting up with CKY Alliance members who were friends/family.
I saw CKY in Los Angeles in that timeframe and this crazy band with like, robots or animatronics or something opened for them… I’ll give 1 million dollars to whoever can tell me the name of that band 😫 I was like 13 and it felt like a fever dream. But my brother remembers it too so I know it was real
No mention of chads off the chain drinking problem? I know deron was a problem but it seems disingenuous to not mention chads issues. Also worth mentioning is how many bass players went through that band.
Chad is 50 now
I remember meeting CKY as a kid and Chad was definitely a drunk ass hole and everyone else was cool af.
I seem to remember the members at the time saying that Deron was the issue which is why he was out.
Isn’t there a part on one of the CKY videos where Chad slams a whole bottle of Jack Daniels on the way to visit G.G. Allin’s grave?
@@SmashAtoms saw them live in 2003. He drank a whole bottle of jack before the set was over. I believe he got so wasted he forgot he was at gg's grave.
The Foreign Objects material is amazing. And it was made by kids, basically.
Still blows my mind to this day.
The first 3 CKY records are also great, and I still enjoy them to this day.
CKY never fell, they got immortalized in time by jackass and Bam.
I love Bam but he the real cocksucker when it comes to him hating on DM leaving the band.
I'm a HIM fan... which lead me to CKY. The 3 albums they did were classics and I still find them randomly playing in my head.
Before they released Inhuman Creation Station, I had a dream that wasn't quite like the video or anything, but the place in my dream had a sign that read the same.
CKY will always be a part of me. Sad to see what they've become.
Carver City and An Answer Can Be Found stay in my rotation. I never thought I'd see them covered again, thanks Finn
The way you lived your life … mesmerizes me …
No I.D.R.?
Deron was absolutely 100% the problem in the band. That being said though, I agree with the opinion that 96 Bitter Beings sounds more like CKY than CKY itself these days because Deron honestly WAS CKY. My personal experience meeting him a few times was nothing but pleasant and was shocked to find out I was in the minority until much later. Sucks he turned out to be a jerk
Yeah I saw 96BB on their recent US tour and Deron, Matty, and Thomas all were very pleasant and just happy to meet the fans.
Love that octave-pedal guitar sound. There's truly nothing like it among their contemporaries!
Seriously. So unique.
I went to a lot of CKY shows in the early 2000s. It was always so cool how after every show they would come out to the parking lot and meet fans. I remember one time they missed their flight because they choose to stay and sign stuff for every fan there. The good days.
I saw them most recently a few years ago at Warped Tour when they were promoting The Phoenix album. CiG was just casually hanging out in their merch booth smoking, and then after the show I ran into Matt Dies escorting a couple ladies to their car. He took a pic with me and then took off on his scooter. So down to earth and didnt seem bothered by fans approaching them at all.
I saw them maybe around 2005?? I can’t remember I was so young, but this band that literally had animatronics/robots opened for them and I’m prepared to reward anyone for the name of that band 😩
'Carver City' and 'Infiltrate Destroy Rebuild' were CKY's best albums in my opinion, if you liked these you should also check out 'Foreign objects' (CKY before it was cky)
96 quite bitter things is straight up iconic to me as a skater punk teenager when it came out. Tony Hawk's soundtrack in general was absolute fire back then. But other than that song I never really found any of their other music to be appealing.
I saw CKY in 2007 at pier pressure a one day festival in Sweden. The things I remember is their energy and that the singer drank a bottle of JD at stage 😅
I still listen to them
Klassiskt gig!
Härka!!!
I believe I saw CKY live at a gig once. I remember wearing my F U CKY ou, hoodie back in 2005, I'm still in the same town but a different person now. Their music was great to a teen / young twentysomething, but people who you once thought were cool when you were young and self destructive, well, you now realise they weren't.
I agree, they could have been legends like Korn, Slipknot or at the very least the Mudvayne tier of influence/respect if they didn't let their problems tear themselves apart! The three bands I just mentioned also battled drugs, metal illness, loss, and conflicts over creative differences. Fortunately those bands managed to do the impossible and (for the most part) stick together and overcome their personal demons. Some bands manage to win that battle, others loose, its just the way it goes I suppose. I agree 100% with what you said about their influence. I was a little late to the CKY party as I (am not a skater and) discover them on Myspace during that era. They quickly became one of my favorite bands and one of my Mom's least favorite bands! Fond memories of blasting them through the speakers every chance I got!
CKY had a lot going for them in the early 2000s. Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3, Jackass/CKY Videos, opening up for Guns N Roses. But there was so much internal conflicts as well as external, as they were mismarketed by their record label, so they had to depend their entire existence on Bam Margera.
I'm making this comment to immortalize CKY was an opener for Alien Ant Farm on a European tour. Chad was being shitty to everyone and when the singer of AAF tried to talk to him, Chad punched him in the face. Now they are kicked off the tour.
I really wanna see 96 Bitter Beings take their spot on the tour.
Unpopular Opinion: I really liked The Phoenix! Favorite song is still 96 Quite Bitter Beings and favorite album being Carver City, I still like The Phoenix considering lineup and sound change. Still has that familiar energy and potential to be what they were.
One of the best concerts I have ever been to was a CKY show in a Scranton bar called Tinks. They came out after Atreyu and had to break the news that there wouldn't be a singer cause he was sick. But rather than reschedule they pulled people up from the crowd to do the craziest most punk rock karaoke.
The CKY skit where they took Ginsberg to Gigi Allens grave was fucking hilarious.
*GG Alin
Lol gigi Allen, I like it.
I still watch that every once in awhile
Nobody knows GG Allin, in '93!!
I had 96 Quite Bitter Beings as a paid ringtone on a small Nokia brick phone in the early 2000s. We've come a long way.
@@NiecgramMe-THE-DNA-SHOW oh yeah? Message you how?
IDR is one of the greatest albums of the 2000s, simple as.
Facts
CKY is one of the best bands ever! I discovered them when I was young thru the obvious way (bam) and liked their music. After years of not really listening to them I was older and had gone thru a major shift in my musical taste and when they came to mind for the first time in years I wanted to go back and get a hit of nostalgia secretly expecting that I wouldn't like it as much as I did then just like a lot of bands I somehow liked when I was 14 that give me stomach aches today. When I went back to CKY though, I became an even bigger fan than I was when I was younger! As a kid I thought the songs were cool (not to mention the bam/jackass connection) but now purely for its musical integrity I've come to realize what an amazing songwriter and guitar player Deron is! I'm so glad you covered them because like you said they get overlooked by most of the metal/music community.
Small correction at 13:03, Matt Deis had been on bass with CKY since ‘An Answer Can Be Found.’
Fantastic video otherwise Finn. Love your content.
Matt joined after the album was released. He didn't play on it.
I know, just pointing out he’d been in the band for 11 years in 2016 and wasn’t new to the lineup.
So, as someone who personally knows Chad and (to a lesser extent) Jess, I can confirm that Deron was the biggest issue, if not the only issue. The incident in which Deron caught them "talking shit" about him wasn't like he claimed it was. Chad and Jess were on the bus discussing their concerns about Deron's drinking as not only was it harming the band, he was harming himself. Deron didn't like this, so he started a fight. After Deron left the band, he left a number of anti-semitic voicemails on Chad's phone.
I'm sure Chad and Jess probably had their own issues and stuff back then, but in the years I've known them, they've been happy, loving what they're doing, and dedicated to the band. Genuinely two of the nicest guys you'll ever meet.
Loved CKY....such a great and tragic story all in one.
Memories...am I right?
Deron Miller is a musical genius. Infiltrate Destroy Rebuild is still one of the greatest albums of all time, and was WAAAAY ahead of it's time, sound wise.
For those of you who are out of the loop, check out Deron's current band 96 Bitter Beings. They're going on tour again this year, and still hit pretty good.
96 Bitter Beings scratches the itch I have to hear Deron’s double tracked vocals and octave pedal riffs. Love his style.
I know 96 Quite Bitter Beings is their most famous and generally most beloved song, but mine will always be Escape from Hellview. Beyond a really amazing series of riffs, the lyrics are awesome. I remember listening to that song for the first time in highschool and I immediately had to start drawing because the lyrics and the story painted such a vivid image in my mind.
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"The band went on without Chad"
Proceeds to show footage of the band live with Daniel Davies and Chad.
Then said Deis was a new bassist in 2017.
Bro, sloppy research.
Sloppy is putting it nicely
The connections with this band to horror films should not go understated as well. Deron met, courted and married, Felissa Rose. The star of Sleepaway Camp, who's iconic image was used on the cover of CKY's EP Disengage the Simulator. She contacted him after seeing her face on a shirt he was wearing on an episode of Jackass. I'm also surprised nothing more was mentioned of Daniel Davies. He is the son of Dave Davies from The Kinks, and is the godson of director and composer John Carpenter, whom he currently tours with.
I remember the first time I saw cky back in the early 00s, they played with clutch and some guy in the crowd spat on stage and the next thing you see is a bottle of JD flew threw the air and then bam comes flying out and just wailing on the dude, I thought it was mental as kid because I hadn't been to too many gigs back then
Crying about getting spit on, huh?
@@mildred714 usually I have to pay extra for that kinda treatment
They were my first concert that wasn't a band my parents listened to. It was free in a mall parking lot and I got to see Mike Vallely skate and perform with Revolution Mother.
So glad I was a teenager when this was happening. Those videos where legendary in the suburbs during the late ‘90’s/early ‘00’s.
now fckng imagine my excitement when hearing they would tour in the UK and I finally could go and see them live 🤩 teenage me would die straight on the spot! heck, I even made my bestie tailor her visa application dates to join me, that would be so FUN..!
and now imagine my face reading about the shite that happened between them and AAF (which they where co-touting with) with the announcement of c.k.y. falling out of it.. i releally don't wanna sound overly dramatic, but I'm heartbroken and devastated 💀 the dream i never dreamed, yet was presented to me only to be taken away from 10 days before THE gig..
Ah, those special days of listening to cky and running shopping carts into bushes....
I just saw them (what's left) for the first time live after being a big fan for 25 years. I knew it was not going to sound like the CKY I was used to. I'm glad that I went because the songs are nostalgic for me, but not dicredit them, basically sounded like a cover band because it was missing Deron's guitar sound and vocals.
Always and forever the biggest CKY fan, thank you for doing this🤘 Matt Deis wasn’t a “new” bassist tho, he was in the band 2006-2011
Was gonna comment this myself until I saw yours. He was really the only bassist of theirs I considered an actual member after Vern left, and helped record AACBF.
I worked with Matt in an office job from 2015-2017 before the business closed. Incredibly nice, put-together, down to earth guy. Completely unassuming. He recently rejoined All That Remains (he was with them before CKY).
@@timflint25 Met Matt randomly escorting a female friend to her car after one of their shows. He was almost as excited to meet me as I was him. He seemed genuinely surprised that someone recognized him. It was at a festival and they were kind of passed over by the younger crowd that was there. He took a pic with me, signed my shirt, then thanked me for coming to the show before hopping on his scooter and taking off.
Great video! The fact that Vern is almost non existent from CKY lore has always been intriguing to me. Also I remember hearing rumours that the fight on the bus included Deron throwing a laptop and destroying things before he was jumped. I saw them in 05 and 09. Good times.
I was and am still a huge fan. These guys were riff masters for sure. Catchy stuff 💯
Executive Summary:
### Early Beginnings
In the early 90s, CKY began as a collaboration between teenage friends Darren Miller and Jess Margera. Their friendship started in a high school math class in 1992 and soon evolved into a creative partnership. Their initial musical endeavor was a progressive metal band named Foreign Objects. However, it was their next band, Oil, that laid the groundwork for what CKY would become. For instance, the song "Genesis 12a" would later appear in the CKY video "jump off a building" in 1998, solidifying their sonic identity.
### The Skateboarding Connection
Parallel to their musical journey, Jess's brother Bam Margera was carving out a name for himself in the skateboarding and filmmaking scenes. Bam's use of CKY's music in his skate videos, particularly the Toy Machine video "Jump off a Building," played a significant role in promoting the band. However, their real breakthrough came in 1999 with the release of Bam's first CKY video under the Wheel Company Landspeed. This underground hit in the skateboarding community propelled CKY into the spotlight, selling over a million copies and cementing their status amongst fans globally.
### Major Label Success
The skateboarding community's embrace of CKY's music didn't go unnoticed. Despite having no initial industry backing, CKY sold 50,000 copies of their album before it even hit record stores, a testament to their grassroots popularity. This success led to a major label deal with Island Def Jam. Subsequently, CKY released their major label debut "Infiltrate•Destroy•Rebuild" in 2003. The album featured the lead single "Flesh into Gear," which garnered mainstream attention, especially featured in the CKY2K video. At this point, they were part of the colossal "Jackass" phenomenon and even got to open for Guns N' Roses at the request of Axl Rose.
### Internal Conflicts and Turmoil
Despite their growing success, internal conflicts began to surface. The band's love for partying and chaotic behavior caught up with them, exemplified by a costly $28,000 hotel bill resulting from a destructive food fight. The chaos extended beyond their hotel rooms; a dispute with Rolling Stone over a one-star review saw fans bombarding the magazine's writer with copies of CKY’s album.
The band's internal discord was further fueled by creative and personal differences. Tensions reached a peak during their tour in San Diego, leading to a physical altercation among band members. Darren Miller, the band's founder and primary songwriter, eventually quit the band in 2011, citing various reasons, including the lack of communication and support from his bandmates.
### Attempted Comeback and Further Drift
Despite Darren's departure, CKY attempted to persevere. They went on to release Carver City in 2009 under Roadrunner Records, an album inspired by a fictional town created by the band. The album received favorable reviews but failed to bring the band back to their peak popularity. The creative rift between members became increasingly evident, with each having different visions for CKY’s future. Darren and Jess favored a collective solo project approach, while Chad Ginsburg opposed it, leading to more friction.
In 2011, Darren officially left the band, highlighting his struggles with alcohol and his increasing isolation from the CKY community. His departure suggested the end of CKY as fans knew it since Darren was not just the primary songwriter but also the band's creative heart.
### New Lineups and Legal Battles
In the following years, CKY experienced several lineup changes, with significant departures and new additions. Despite the chaos, they made a brief return, playing at Australia’s Soundwave Festival in 2012. However, this comeback wasn't smooth sailing. Darren disputed the band's right to continue using the CKY name, a claim complicated by Bam's ownership of the trademark.
By 2016, CKY returned with a new trio, featuring Chad Ginsburg on vocals and guitar, Jess Margera on drums, and a new bassist. They released "The Phoenix" in 2017. While the album was well-received, many fans felt it lacked the distinct CKY sound that Darren had been integral in crafting. The essence of CKY seemed to have changed, sparking mixed reactions from their loyal fanbase.
### CKY's Enduring Legacy
Despite their internal struggles and the changes in their lineup, CKY’s legacy remains influential, particularly to those who grew up with their music in the early 2000s. Their unique blend of heavy yet catchy melodies, progressive elements, and the unconventional aesthetic they maintained distinguished them from other bands of their time.
The heavy influence of skateboarding culture and their role in the 'Jackass' franchise further etched CKY in the memories of fans. Even today, their early albums, especially those featuring Darren Miller, are considered cult classics within their genre.
### Darren Miller's New Ventures
Darren Miller has continued his musical journey outside of CKY. His death metal project, World Under Blood, received praise within the metal community. Most recently, he joined the old-school death metal band Malevolent Creation, a move that generated controversy due to the band’s problematic history and explicit content.
### Conclusion
CKY’s story is one of talent overshadowed by internal discord and chaos. The band’s initial success, built on a unique blend of punk rock and skate culture, gradually unraveled due to personal and creative conflicts. As talented as Darren Miller undoubtedly is, his antics and interpersonal issues heavily influenced CKY’s trajectory. While CKY as it was known may no longer exist, its impact remains, and its music continues to be celebrated by old and new fans alike. Their tale serves as a cautionary example of how even the most promising and beloved bands can fall apart when plagued by internal strife and disagreements.
CKY will always be remembered not just for their music but also for their indelible mark on the early 2000s subculture, driven by the rebellious spirit of a generation coming of age amidst skateboards and rock music. Their story, filled with highs and lows, remains a testament to the volatile yet enduring nature of artistic collaboration.
Excited for this one. Played with them in 2019 and became a big fan of the music.
I come from the days of CKY and HIM. I was lucky enough to see the farewell tour where CKY opened, and I had seen them a few times before that.
They never sounded better than they did on that tour. Ginsburg is easily the front man they deserve, and it was so obviously clear these guys were better without Darren's perfectionism and tyranny
It's crazy that Jess Margera's side project and Deron Miller's band 96 bitter beings released albums within a week of each other. It was fun to cover these releases and have a blast going back over CKYs music
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Here we are 25 years later, they are still touring.. i love their music still to this day
I'm not sure if Deron was the entire problem. I've listened to his interviews and he comes across as a pretty sincere and smart guy. He definitely seems really intense and like you said yeah probably hard to work with. I've been in a few bands and I can honestly tell you most of the time it is not fun at all. You have 4 or 5 people in the room arguing and then you have to see them weekly to jam with and do it all over again. There are a lot of egos and it is probably the easiest way to end a friendship.
the hard cut to the squarespace add gave me whiplash
Awesome case history there Finn. I was a skater in the 2000s and loved toy machine - still do. This led me to CKY so hearing that iconic riff really brought back some good memories. Thanks F-money!
Disengage the Simulator is still one of the best songs ever.
When I worked at an indoor skatepark in highschool I'd put that song on repeat and just cruise the park for an hour before i had to open the doors an get to work.
That's so sick. I was in the exact same position doing the exact same thing
Oh, the nostalgia of being a teen in the early 2000s. How I feel about CKY, they were a band for rebellious kids but didn't count on those rebellious kids growing up, that happened with a lot of bands from the early 2000s.
I’m in a guitar pedal group on Facebook and just last week someone posted a picture of an octave pedal they bought from Deron, with a note that said “this is THE octave pedal I wrote and recorded all the cky songs with.” Then someone in the comments posted a picture of the exact same thing with the comment “well this is awkward..” I was rolling 😂
I was in my early 30s when these guys hit... got to see them live and meet Deron. Listening to Deron's new band now 96 Bitter Beings.
CKY were supposed to tour with Alien Ant Farm here in the UK but they got kicked off the tour when Chad I Ginsburg punched Dryden Mitchell in the face. i was so disappointed when i showed up early to see CKY had been replaced with InMe opening for AAF.
*_cKy is the real deal. Easily one of the best rock bands of the last 20+ years._*
When I saw them at a Warped Tour several years ago I had never heard of them and couldn't understand why the crowd was going so ravenous over what was kind of a fairly basic "rawk" group. I thought the crowd was just being ironic and didn't realize this band had a history.
So cool you did this one!! Live at Mr. Smalls Funhouse is one of the best live albums I've heard. World Under Blood is extremely awesome too!! Under the Autumn Low, particularly killer track!!🤘🤘I follow Deron and do remember that "hiring brothers" post. Like, ooooook 🤣🤣
Live at Mr. Smalls is so awesome. Every song is better live
'Sink Into The Underground Live at Mr Smalls'. Typed that into UA-cam so many times lol
I love CKY and the guys that are currently in the band from 2016 on are all so nice. Deron is so toxic. I've been a fan for ao many years but there was a time when it was so hard to be a fan because of Deron. He didn't send me things so many times and he also blasted me and was calling me a fake fan and all of that when i would ask him for my stuff. He publicly blasted me on Facebook and I was done with him after that. How many times can you rip your fans off and then blame the post office for losing it every time. How can you treat such loyal fans so terribly?? I'm so glad he isn't in the band anymore. He is a talented musician but you can't treat people like shit and expect them to support you! I love the lineup that CKY has now and i love Chad on vocals!
Thanks for covering bands like this! I think it really says a lot about you that you can cover cky and no doubt with it feeling like you genuinely care about the content. You are becoming one of my favorite content creators!
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There was also a weird phase just before 96 Quite Bitter Beings formed where Derin Miller essentially tried to hijack / reclaim the band name and got 86’d by Bam Margera’s legal team. He then went on to rename it “CKY + Foreign Objects”, “MechaCKY” and finally just having to let go of the CKY name and settle for 96 Quite Bitter Beings. I met him at one of his shows and man, it was a little depressing. You could tell he was still in the “rockstar” / party mindset but I’d be lying if I said he didn’t still put on one hell of a performance. Also, he pissed a lot of his fans off when he posted a picture of him holding a burning CKY CD on his Facebook page and a lot of people felt like he was disregarding the legacy of the band they all loved so much. Really a strange dude
Really great video to watch as a massive CKY fan from growing up in the 2000s. They were always one of my favourite bands and I was so happy for then when they signed to RR but man they all seemed crazy as fuck and they ruined it.
Such a shame as I don't think we'll ever get another incarnation of that sound as good as IDR or AACBF.
Saw them live with a guy named Elvis a couple nights ago. Room had maybe 50 people in it, was so dope and personal. It was only empty cause no one knew they were there lmao.
Close yet far was one of their best songs imo
Those CKY prank vids / songs were a defining part of my childhood, and I never skated once in my life as a midwestern farm boy. That’s how popular they were.
I actually played the opening slot before CKY in Adelaide for the Soundwave festival. Speaking of drinking and fighting, Bam was there and had been in a drunken bar fight with Hell's Angels motorcycle club members the night before.
"The band chose to go on without Chad..." *Plays clip of Daniel Davies led CKY which Chad is clearly in* ... Also the "new bassist" from the 2016 lineup is actually an old bassist that came back...🤷♂️
One of the most unique sounding bands from that era, their stuff holds up
*Implies Chad wasn’t at the Soundwave gig…cuts to a clip where Chad is clearly at the Soundwave gig*
Also referred to Matt Deis as their “new bassist” when he was a returning old bassist who was also their longest serving bassist.
I still see fuCKYou shirts at shows every now and then.
The problem was Deron Miller becoming a pretentious asshole to not only his bandmates, but all his fans. Any CKY fan that has tried to interact positively with Deron in the past 10-15 years got a giant middle finger to the face. I remember he would aggressively cuss out and guilt trip fans on facebook for not funding his solo project, and even in more recent times, he continues to give interviews completely bashing Chad and Jess. Also, I remember either Jess or Deron saying everything after Infiltrate was not 'genuine CKY'. So, in the band's eyes, even An Answer Can Be Found and Carver City were weak points for CKY. They had already lost momentum way before Deron left, at least in their own personal creativity, if not in fan reception. Even before the band broke up, Deron was already treating everyone horribly - they had a hard time even getting him to show up on time for the music video of A#1 Roller Rager. But as much of an ass as Deron is, he is unquestionably the mastermind. CKY without Deron is missing not only a limb, but the entire body. It's just a shame that he can't seem to treat people around him respectfully.
Can you do a video on the bloodhound gang
*They remind of why and how I got into HIM and Turbonegro. I like some of their songs but more than likely just jumped on the viva la bam bandwagon like most kids growing up in the 2000s. Exactly why I started and stopped listening to Cradle of Filth too. But still, a lot of the CKY songs are more nostalgic than anything (to me at least)*
This was a sick video. I got a chance to interview Deron Miller a few months back and it went really well. Considering the strangeness that Deron has gotten himself into over the years he does seem to be a genuinely well meaning guy. I'm still hoping that some day soon they get back together for a proper reunion cuz the whole situation is just so rough.
He's just an introspective, sensitive guy which the ubermacho scene he is apart of look down upon.