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Those synths were programmed to look for a convalescent home for Father. I am sure.
Gref Steel
Isn't it bad enough to put ones parents in a home? And now they start to even put the child of the sole survivor there?!?
Man, that sucks!
Yeah
Gref Steel that makes sence 😂😂😂
I think they did it not the send him to it but to see how it operates see what father would need etc etc
@@Celisar1 Father deserves it
The robots appear to be chopping fish to feed the cats. At least, that's how I read the chopped fish in the kitchen.
Diamond Sharpe that...actually makes sense and is less morbid than most theories I've seen
I agree but the robots have saws why would they not use that
the original cats probably ate the lady that took care of them
but they killed it
@@sparetime2475 have you tried deboning and chopping a fish with a buzzsaw? Not easy. And its messy.
My grandmother has Alzheimer's, and she is incapable to do anything. We had to put her in a care center, because she is in bed all day and can't even talk. People say that it's wrong to put people in care centers, but they don't understand how necessary it can be sometimes. I know it probably makes me a bad person, but I don't visit her much. I can't bare to see her in that state. Last time I visited her, on Christmas, I couldn't help myself from crying. I grew up with her caring for me and playing with me while my parents were at home, and it pained me to see her slowly lose her mind.
ligma balls same thing happened with my pop. It hurt seeing him lose himself but I’ll always keep one thing that he always told me, “Better days are comin” in this old fashioned new york type way. But sorry to hear about your loss man. Better days are coming
You're not a bad person. That was your grandmother... WAS. The alzheimers took that person and what's left is a body being kept alive. It's sad, but sometimes we have to grieve a loss before they're entirely gone. I'd never want to exist in that state and I've clearly outlined to my family what I want should I become unresponsive. I'd never want my family or anyone else to see me like that...
I work in care as a care assistant and I do recommend you see your grandmother.
You will regret not going when she's gone.(That sounds horrible I know)
I also know what you are going through because my dad has dementia he's 69(I'm 23 he had me a lot later in life) and I hate seeing him lose himself to dementia but he is my dad and I want to spend as much time as I can with him because you never know how much time he has left.
I don't want to make you feel guilty or make you feel like a bad person because you are not.
But I have worked with the elderly. I have seen them cry for their families and because they feel lost. They want to go home but they can't.
It doesn't matter how far their dementia has gone because it affects them all.
Theres a lady I look after and she can't do anything for herself. she can't walk, talk, feed herself, toilet herself or bathe herself. She just sits in a chair all day either sleeping or staring at a wall but sometimes her personalty comes through and when her children come in the day she can sometimes recognise them and she smiles. Sometimes when I look at her she gives me no reaction at all and other times she will smile at me.
So this is coming from a carers point of view when it breaks my heart when families don't go see them because a lot of people think "well my family member is gone they are not there any more because of dementia", they sometimes come back for bit even if it's for 5 minutes and they are the moments you don't want to miss.
All u can do is be there for your grandmother and love her
@@lilzombiegurl6431 I second what you said. I lost my mother the day before Christmas Eve 2018; she'd been suffering from COPD and CHF. She died at home, as she was living with me, and she didn't die in pain, but even with that being the case - even being there for her - I have all sorts of regrets for things I never said, and never got to apologize for, and never do. At the end, we had a hard time getting her out of the house, so I couldn't take her to see Christmas lights or anything. I was stressed about my job, and she needed *a lot* of help with things, so sometimes I said mean things, though not at all right before her end.
Seriously - say what have to say IMMEDIATELY. Do what you can with her. If you can get her to take a ride with you out of the nursing home, or house, or whatever, DO IT. I can tell you - you will regret it later if you don't.
'rather unimpressive rowboat'
Don't judge, Ox. He could have kissed his wife for the first time on a rowboat.
Say Rowboat 10 times or so and it’s sounds like robot. Coincidence? Probably
@@hippityhoppitygetoffmyprop1000 that's why the synths were there ... for the damn rowboat
It is entirely possible that old people continued to check in after the war. The robots don't care & it's relatively safe.
I once worked in an elderly care home for the memory impaired. They often wanted to leave and find the nearest bus stop but we had to kindly explain to them that the bus isn't coming for a couple of hours and they might sit down for a cup of coffee, and serve them a snack. They forgot that they wanted to leave soon enough. It repeated day after day, we just made them feel as comfortable and cared for as we could, but a minority never adjusted.
from the bottom of my heart, thank you . even if you worked there for a short time it is very very hard to take care of someone who is helpless and just waiting the end
Dantyx1 we had to do that at the retirement home I worked at. I was front desk night shift and stopped many residents from wandering off. It’s sad when they come down and you ask them “well, darling, what’re you doing up at this time of the night?” And they say they don’t know, or that they’re going home, but they need their car key. I had to tell one of them “well it’s awfully cold out there tonight, and dark. Why don’t you get some sleep and head off tomorrow morning once the suns up and it’s warmed up a bit? It’s no fun trying to drive at night, especially when it’s so cold”
I had one come to me saying he couldn’t find his car and he and his wife had to leave at 5 am. I told him I’d try to find his car for him and he said okay and that he’d told her to go on back to sleep. There was no car. There was no wife. That one had me break down crying right there at the desk.
Sounds like a painful job. Good work.
My understanding is that having a fake bus stop outside of a nursing home isn't that uncommon. Nursing home patients often have different levels of dementia or alzheimer's disease. They may forget that they live there and will try to get on a bus at the nearest bus stop to go back to whatever home they're recalling at that time. I don't think it is a plot to limit the freedom of sound minded people, but a way to find a patient that has slipped out. Nursing homes do often bring up depressing feelings with seeing a large number of elderly making us think of our own potential decline, however, the reality is the elderly can reach a state of requiring 24/7 care. Especially if they're not of sound mind they may become a danger to themselves or others.
You make a good point. Also with people living considerably longer there are far more cases of people with dementia and it makes it far more difficult for their kids to take care of them.
Yup. That's pretty much right. It still looks bad but it serves its purpose. It's a heck of a lot better than running these homes like a prison.
the shitty rowboat might have been his favourite because he obviously loved fishing, as evidenced by his fishing pole in the tub. probably childhood memories of fishing in a shitty rowboat.
also regarding the hunter's trophies and the cats still being alive, remember that the robots are still doing their jobs. these old folks might have survived the bombs for a while. the cats might have continued to be fed by the robots, which would also explain the fish in the kitchen still having flesh on them, instead of skeletal.
Might also explain the head on the table. Could imagine the old dude at the chess table, long having rotted to bone, having his head slowly fall off onto the floor only for some Mr Handy to cheerily shout “Ah Mr Carson, you seem to have dropped something. I’ll get that for you sir :) “
I guess that Bethesda was reusing already present assets in the game due to their laziness in the Hunter room
@@teoborges3949 That or the Robots Went out and Got them? Think about it, Eventually the Taxidermy would fall apart, The Mounting would probably need Replacing. So As the Robots Went out and Continued to get Food for the Cats, They Ran Across (What they Perceived as) Deer, Giant Crabs and Naked Mole Rats (Yes, The Name hasnt Changed. The Mole Rat is the Really the only animal in fallout 4 to Not have Mutated in Shape or Size from its Pre-War Varient, The Naked Mole Rat) So it Hunted Those if it Could, Mounted the Heads/Claws for the Hunter and Gave the Meat to the Cats.
Could also explain how there's still cats 200 years later somehow. You feed a stray, more will start coming.
I wonder if Mortimer's favourite boat is the row boat because either he had one has a younger man, or his family had one when he was a child and it brings back memories.
Noel Eade - Mr Hircine ok
That's my guess
This place has more security than most U.S Goverment buildings
Mr J Bear - Was that Sarcasm?
Mr J Bear protecting societies most valuable resource.
More security then the capitol attack😂😂
Jesus you called this 3 years ago!
This comment aged very well.
Explaining Randall's trophy heads is easy - even taxidermied animals eventually decay, so the robotic attendants, somehow, obtained replacements for them, under the mistaken belief that it would please Randall to have his trophies restored...
A mole rat is a real thing
lol to the guy who thought a mole rat wasn’t a real animal
Meika Laszlo true. But what hunter kills a mole rat and has it turned into a trophy? I think it was just Bethesda being lazy. Makes me sad but I can understand it.
@@mikeziter501 the kind of hunter who realizes that a mole rat after the apolcalypse can kill you. If he killed a mole rat now doesnt mean hes only ever killed mole rats, hes probably killed many animals. Just cause theyre there doesnt mean theyre the EXACT same animal as before the war.
@Swagonborn a mole rat is a mole rat. The mole rat in FO is just a giant naked mole rat
*ox standing in a full suit of X-01power armour* I'm visiting my grandma
The feeling I got when watching this is that the residents lived on after the bombs dropped, being cared for by the robots and dying of old age. This would explain the mutated hunted animals that are mounted on the wall. Perhaps the skeleton crushed by the bookcase was the one human nurse in the place that died when it fell onto her as a result of the earth shacking from the bombs, and none of the residents where able bodied enough to help her.
That's certainly a possibility. Almost all the residents' corpses are in their rooms and in their beds.
It is possible Ronnie used Glady's room as a "base of operations" while the Minutemen were gone. After all, the employees wouldn't give a knife and grenades to someone who really shouldn't have access to that stuff, and she couldn't have possibly hidden that stuff in a large chest. Ronnie also could have hung the game head trophies, or they already existed pre war. The synths could have also been sent here to eliminate Ronnie. Does this theory hold up? What do you think?
that actually makes a bit of sense but i doubt you'd find her there, should be a mod.
Sweet theory
Possible theory but how could she clean the room up to be pre war appearance. It would look used where as this room looks untouched.
The sole survivors parents may have had this room and was proud of their sons army enlistment so that explains all the army stuff
I took this place completely opposite of how you did. I saw it as a nice place that allowed residents to persue their hobbies & interests, have activites with others, and thrive. "Convalescent" is a term for someone recovering; perhaps Gladys was recovering from mental trauma of some sort that caused her to feel the need to "escape?" It's never confirmed that the residents are elderly so there could have also been young residents recovering from different things. Do you really think an evil old folks home would let one of the residents keep multiple pets? I doubt maintaning the robot staff was cheap, either.
My grandmother used to work at a nursing home and I would sometimes visit and go to work with her from when I was 7 until I stopped going at around 11. The patents there loved seeing me and often compared me to their grandchildren. Their smiles were some of the happiest things I've seen.
Just thought I'd share this little story for anyone who doesn't want to visit a nursing home,it really makes a difference to the people there.
While nursing homes seem horrible, one thing to remember is that in the past lives were shorter, you only took care of your parents for a handful of years before they died. It's one thing to take care of someone who drops swiftly from full ability to death in 3 or 4 years, its another to take care of someone who doesn't remember you (but remembers a lifetime of profanity) and is as helpless as a baby for decades.
Also, I'm an engineer. I'm not half bad at my job. But I'm a terrible caretaker. Anyone in my care would not have a good experience. Care facilities are infinitely better than having to endure my skills.
@@Xiph1980at least you’re good at your job tho 😅
My dad had a terrible temper and he used to tear into the male nurses. Not the female nurses because he was taught his manners as a child.
you know, the skeleton sitting straight up makes me laugh so hard, imagining what possible scenario could cause a body to end up like that
I think you misunderstand the part with the bus stop.
That's a common practice in such homes because of dementia and has nothing to do with keeping people against their will.
Well, more or less. They just tend to forget where and when they are as they lose recent memory. When they get bad, they try to run home at a pace they normally could not reach because they just forget about their age and pain. They even run from their childhood homes, trying to return just there because they want to go to a version of it from their youth. It's a sad state of affairs, but a reality when dealing with the elderly. They simply cannot be reasoned with because the world turns confusing and scary around them. Keeping them from running off is in their best interest. Many would just die in a ditch because they march till they collapse or regain clarity, finding themselves in a random location. Often in bad weather and not properly dressed.
Couldnt you do that without sending them to a retirement home?
Joyce Lee Once a person is to the point that they are wondering off, they need to be monitored to keep them safe, and many families can't afford to quit working and stay at home. While it may sound ugly to many, it is also a lifestyle change that a lot of people are not willing to make. There are people that take on that responsibility of caring for a loved one, but for those who cannot there are facilities staffed with the purpose of keeping your loved one's safe. Nursing homes only ever come up in public discourse when something bad happens, so it is understandable that some people may have ill feelings of those types of facilities or ministries. I have worked in geriatric nursing for close to a decade now, and those stories that come up in the news very rarely cover the understaffing, the over working, hours and benefits cut, poor management, or any other host of issues that causes the burnout level that leads to an act of abuse or neglect.
Frankly that’s a merciful end compared to slowly withering away in a convalescence home.
1. The Institute regulary sends synth-looter quads to the surface. Most of their radiant quests are based around this. Therefore it's likely they are there for the chems.
2. I think we can all agree that it isn't a good idea to let your looters roam around without protection or combat protocols. I think they are programmed to kill all robots and living beings, for they are mostly hostile. An extra protocol to spare cats would be unnecessary, complicated and would slow down the reaction time of the synths.
That's probably why; it's not like the synths were specifically programmed to kill cats, they were just never programmed not to, and their response to a fast moving living being is to consider it a threat and shoot it just in case.
I went there after i became leader of the institute and i reached upstairs ans the synths came in
They either attack anything that isn't Institute, or their programming has just seen better days looking at the way they're all dirty and damaged.
My grandparents died about 8 years ago. My grandfather died first, at home. My grandmother died a few years later. Her mind kept deteriorating, so we had to get someone to take care of her. We tried some caregivers but eventually she was so bad we had to take her to a nursing home. It was a really nice place. We spared no expense. But even so, when I was visiting I couldn't shake off the impression that it was basically a waiting room to die.
My opinion is the same.
they kind of are, but not everyone there is on the brink of death. I worked at a rehabilitation & health facility. there’s different departments within the facility so people with the same needs are kept together, or relocated based on their needs. one resident I know of is in her 30s and is wheelchair bound due to a car accident. she even uses a catheter and colostomy bag. she still gets around and is allowed to leave-she likes to go gambling at the Chinese restaurant around the corner. so nursing homes aren’t always prisons of death, sometimes they’re apartment complexes for the very disabled :) ! Edit: we do mostly have old people though. that woman is just an example of different circumstances.
I love the first time i went here and the institute shows up
Same i had no idea who they were and i was just like wtf who or what are you XD
gamerfourlife64 I remember looting a room and hearing them. I sat in the room fearing my life as they went by and entered the room. I was thinking what the fuck are these things
AJ XD the joys of seeing them for the first time those deep robotic voices tho
OmegaValwin same lol
I arrived and I went to talk to the Mr. handy and a synth just came around the corner and started shooting and I was like, WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING?
When my grandma first started needing extra care after surgeries, I moved in with her and my grandpa. It was because I live here (and I briefly did a bit of minor work in home healthcare) that when my grandpa got pancreatic cancer, he was able to spend his final days at home, enjoying their sorta dream home. Two stories tall, forested neighborhood where everyone has a minimum of 3 acres. I know he appreciated the peace and quiet the neighborhood provides, as well as the frequent wildlife sightings. I have never regretted moving in with them, even if watching him deteriorate day by day was rather hard at times.
Why kill the cat? Didn't you know, the cat was killed because he crossed father one too many times. The Cat and Father were friends back in the day of fathers youth. Both playing and having fun ... until the cat ( who is named Fluffles ) made the mistake and stole the heart of Fathers then love interest Diana. Fluffles then had no choice but to run, because if he stayed, Father would have killed Fluffles there and then. After many years of hiding and keeping low, Fluffles was finally found and killed at the nursing home. His only crime... falling in love with Diana.
👏
I deem this... canon.
I shall avenge Fluffles! Death to the institute
What the hell
As for why synths show up there, I think they're there for the chems. Remember; the Institute, as perfect as it seems on the inside, actually is having a problem with resources. While they no doubt can make their own chems, it probably drains less resources to scavenge them from places that already have many chems. They heard a rumor about a deserted building that probably had chems in it just waiting to be taken, so they sent some synths to take them. I doubt they were trying to kill surface dwellers because 1: the Institute seems to believes that the surface world is doomed and will simply die out naturally rather than them needing to cause it and 2: um, the building's empty except for some robots and a cat. Killing off surface dwellers is kind of hard when you send synths to unoccupied buildings.
" the Institute seems to believes that the surface world is doomed and will simply die out naturally rather than them needing to cause it and "
...So why did they send synths to ruin the Commonwealth Coalition?
@@willj1443 We actually don’t know for sure, we only have Nick’s third party account to believe that, which in itself already sounds fishy when it says that every human was killed by a synth, yet obviously someone would have needed to survive to tell the tale.
Also, the director recording in the Institute indicates that their plan was imply going into hiding, not go out and slaughter the CPG, which they actually tried to help for 4 years, even after it was falling part.
Lastly, let’s not forget the internal chaos in University Point: on one hand we are told that Institute sightings (synths) were a very rare sight, with younger people even assuming they were a boogieman’s story made up by their parents & elderly.
On the other one, Kellogg didn’t arrive guns blazing: he actually came in, talked with them, demanding the data they found… and only that, yet the townsfolk began spinning it into the Institute demanding that they turn in the girl who found it and later that the Institute came for everyone’s children. All these you can find in the internal mail entries of the settlement, as well as indications of impeding infighting, which if it actually came to that, gave Kellogg more reason to move in and secure the data before it was destroyed during the conflict.
I always try to anticipate the first sentence of oxhorn's "full story of" videos. "One day, while exploring the commonwealth..." "on the south side of the insert location here"
I tried so hard not to cry watching this, and I almost made it, but then the dang synths had to kill the cat and I lost it. Why?!
As others said, they were likely just programmed to shoot fast moving creatures in the surface, 90% of which they do are trying to kill anything that they run into (radrats, radroaches, mole rats, etc.) so their actions make sense, even if it’s regrettable that the cats themselves hadn’t the intention to attack.
(6:40) There's no telling what sentimental value that rowboat model held for Mortimer.
(8:00) I prefer to think that Gladys got away completely and did what she could for the survivors of the war before dying gloriously in battle.
(8:35) The robots had probably assume some of the duty of taking care of Catherine's cats. They probably never noticed that new cats took the place of the ones that died, and cats kept coming because the robots kept putting food and water out.
(10:05) I suspect the mounted mutant heads are "poetic license", since pre-war animal heads are not included in the games development assets.
(15:55) There's a similar "bigger boat" scene in the river near Cambridge Polymer Labs.
(16:40) Maybe you should take up a dangerous hobby. That's my plan.
Why do you think I smoke cigars?
you dirty synth! I mean unless your nice...yeah that was uncalled for. Sorry, the BoS must be rubbing off on me as I'm doing my evil playthrough
Synth Oxhorn oh dear god there's another one.
I know a model boat collector that told me a badly made wooden viking ship meant far, far more to him that all the highly detailed models of Battleships, Frigates and Cruisers. The reason? It was the first one he built himself.
It could be the same, or similar reason here.
Maybe Mortimer was a captain once and after he was pensioned he built a boat on his own. The model rowboart is just a model of the beat he built and used to "command" that was truly his own.
I actually couldn't stay too long in that place. My grandma's biggest fear was to be put in a nursing home. ironically that was a big motivator to get her to do basic exorcises. We never did of course, I took care of her and I got help from my brother and her favorite daughter in her final months. I can't hear about elderly getting mistreated or I break down :(
Great video Oxhorn..
This one hit a little too close to home
I took care of my mother, who passed away from emphysema. The same year she passed my grandma got diagnosed with progressive dementia. so I began taking care of her, I was lucky enough to start working from home because she had a tendency to start stovetop fires, or just wander off. All I can say is its non-stop hard work, and not everyone can do it.
With most of my family being selfish douches, I knew I was all she had, and there was no way I could let the 2 women who helped raise me, be left to strangers. This is not something anyone should be forced to do alone, so if you know anyone who is taking care of a loved one by themselves, try and stop by once a week at least and give them a few hours to take care of themselves. Care Giver Burn Out is a horrible experience.
I spent the last 10 years of my life watching the 2 most important people In my life wither and pass away.(3 years with my mom, and 7 with my grandmother) I wouldn't wish that experience on my worst enemy, and as painful as it was. I'd do it all over again if I had too.
This is a beautiful comment. Thank you for sharing
tonyo lo i shed a tear from your story im sorry your mother and grandmother passed away i hope you're doing better now even if 2 important people passed away stay strong!
tonyo lo may they rest in peace. hey look on the bright side they r not suffering any more
Good on you for taking care of your family. I've worked in places like this and it always seems like the families have forgotten about their elders. Nice to know there a still folks out their taking care of their of their folks. No doubt your mother and grandmother passed away happily thanks to you.
Well if you just unloaded that....I guess I should say my story?......
(I am an older teen)
When I was younger, like 13, 14, I used to help care for my grandmother, who lived with my family. Nothing like you had to, though. I was supposed to help with giving her her medication, moving her oxygen tank around, wake her in the morning, and stuff like that. Now being the bastard kid I was, i resented my job. I loved my grandmother, but I was immature, lazy, and an ass back then. Sometimes I lashed out when she tried to ask me for something. Then.....then she died. About five weeks after her 79th birthday, she died in her sleep on December 24th. Could you imagine what it is like to try and wake someone, but after a while you know they wont, bu you will not believe? As if if you believe enough, it wont be true. Anyway, I look back, and I regret. I regret a lot. But....but one cannot turn back the steady wheels of time, sailing down the river of history, only to move on and look to the horizon, the future.......
it hurt to hear "playing a game of chess with bottle caps" lol you provide great content but Im not sure you knew they were just playing checkers:p
Maybe the hunter made the the nursing home is personal hideout some time after the bombs fell and some decades before The Lone Survivor was thawed. Didn't Mama Murphy say she used to be an adventurer in her younger days? She is very old. Who's to say she didn't run with a Wasteland Creature hunter?
Interesting
Cool idea, I was also thinking that maybe animals were already starting to mutate.
Who is the big man orang in your profile pic, he is awesome !!
@@StuMcD1989 It was just a pic of an orangutan I found on the Internet. Didn't give his name or if he lived in an encloser.
"The skeleton... Is it a bug or a feature?" Bethesda: "Yes"
Brian Griffin would hate how you pronounce wheelchair
Its_Me_Romano haha.
Its_Me_Romano _ Hweelchair? Like cool hwip?
titanium hwhite
Reminds me of my aunt. She fell awhile back and suffered spinal damage on top of Alzheimer's. She used to be so full of life and fun to be around until it got worse. For years, she'd constantly forget who we were and only want to veg out in front of the tv until she died last year. I hate to see such life and energy be taken away by age, but I am happy she isn't suffering and she can see my great-grandparents and her siblings in heaven. Thanks Ox, this really hit home for me
Talking about at the start about the elderly, I lost someone who is very old in my family this morning, she was 93.
Toxic V Extreme may she rest in peace.
That one shitty UA-cam commenter thanks
Code Star101 thanks
May she rest in peace
3:45 you missed something of a cue here; inside the locked door you had a magazine about sedation and a syringer rifle with a pax syringe nearby. These are both cues as to how the convalescent home recaptured escapees: by shooting them with sedatives and dragging them back. Furthermore, I believe that there was some sort of scam going in here; in the terminal they talk about being worried about the police finding out what they're up to. I also find it strange that they bother listing where their residents keep their safe keys. I think what they were doing was selling chems that had been prescribed to their residents, and the reason they had to stop residents from escaping at any cost was because they could not afford for any of them to inform the police. So, in my mind, not only did they prevent residents from leaving, but they denied them the medicine they needed so they could sell it on the black market themselves.
Very interestimg theory.
It matches the depiction of the US before the bombs too, I'm running with this theory
I absolutely love your commentary and unique approach to the story of the game.
Many people only talk gameplay. You bring the story out for deeper understanding
The practices used by this home are actually extremely common. A lot of elderly people who have been moved into a group home like this have dementia of some kind. They know that the group home isn't where they used to live but they don't remember why they aren't at their old house, so many try to "go home." Many, many group homes use decoy bus stops to keep escapees from getting too far.
I'm sure that many families would prefer that their elderly loved ones could stay in their original homes with assisted care or even move in with them, but for many families, that just isn't feasible. And some of the residents may no longer have family that care, so a group home is the only option.
One of the fan theories about some of the weird shenanigans that we find in Fallout games namely the machete and butchered fish was post war and fairly recently. What happened is whoever was here before us tried to jump ship in the midst of something...
Rock Marcus it mostly is that Bethesda is to lazy to implement unique models for lore
Its_Me_Romano _ Do you know how long and how much memory it would take to have a unique model for everything?
Commonwealth Curator if they can't then they shouldn't make quests that have this kinda stuff in it
Rock Marcus
What does the expression "trying to jump ship" mean?
I'm not a native speaker.
Celisar1 It means get out of a bad situation before it gets worse
This video really makes me afraid to watch my loved ones get old. I will never allow my mother or grsndmothers to be put in homes...
Bubble-Gum-Beauty Its a nice thought but still it's not always possible. Having a grandparent suffering from dementia it's virtually impossible to care for them at home.
We just need faith that the institutions do the best they can do, and aren't just profit focused.
Bubble-Gum-Beauty from someone who took care of their grandmother with dementia its beyond hard. its hard to see them lose functions of their bodies, its sad to see them reverted to a child like state, and its so painful to see them try to figure out who you are. personally i can kinda understand why people do put people in homes
Bubble-Gum-Beauty easy to say hard to do.
It depends on the individual, if a person has dementia or severe altsheimers, that' can simply be too much for someone to handle. People literally train and learn for years how to care for people with these conditions professionally, and sometimes it's just too much to deal with alone. There isn't shame necessarily in placing an elderly relative in care, it may be the responsible decision. There's only sahem if you don't care, and don't put in the effort to make their life better.
Bubble-Gum-Beauty my mother just turned 75 a few days ago, I am 24, (adopted if you are doing the math) and having had to watch my father die of ALS, I can agree with your sentiment however if you do not have the financial ability to care for them, it is pretty much impossible to be there 24/7 whereas a nursing home can, the key is to find a nice one
thus is the saddest episode ever
Trust me, there's sadder.
you are wrong vault 75 is the most sadest and fucked up place ever why? Because vault-tec was forcing children of 8 or more to do training and shoothing training the training was fucked up there wer wellchairs and evereytime they did the training the velocity of the wellchairs wer starting to speed up they even wer abused to do the training and some kids died by heart atack! wen they reached 18 they did a party but it wasent over... the strongesr kids wer killed by poisonous ceringes i think and then they opened the bodys of the dead kids to take they organs because they wer trying to make a perfect human. the smart kids wer turned to recearchers. and the kids oh werent smart and strong got thrown to fournecers. the kids wer never had a chanche to go to the wasteland the overser telled storys about the wasteland and how the kids would had the chanche to go to the wasteland but tey never got to the wasteland becuase they wer being brain washed. but the good thing is that one of the rechearcher kid discover the sick things that wat vault-tec wanted to do wtih the kids from that time he started to gather ammo and pistols he had a freind that knew too they did the atack at the sleep time and they said the kids to kill all of the vault-tec rechearchers and telled the kids wat they wer trying to do with them. still thats more sad and fucked up then that kids dying and surfering is fucked up!
the vault was too creating kids from the ADNS from the other kids and they dind knew they wer created by them
João Manuel HOLY FECK THANKS FOR THE WARNING
Stieger_fx 1 I think mystic pines was the saddest
I completely understand what you are saying, my Father when suffering from Cancer was to pass away in his home, he hated the idea of a hospice but he was adamant about passing away in the house he owned.
Perhaps the Mortimer describes the rowboat as his favorite because it is a model of a boat he owned and fished from before he was put in the home
I am a nursing home therapist and strongly caution anyone to not hesitate when their loved one needs professional care. So many times I have seen well meaning stubborn families, who aren't professionals, let their loved ones end up with horrifying wounds (that can develop in days or hours). Health conditions can deteriorate, and all because they weren't properly trained. The important thing is to be present; visit, bring important things from home, call, support your loved one who is in a nursing home. Most places are no where near this bad and there are governing institutions that will not tolerate bad conditions.
New post for an old video, but if I can reach 1 person feeling guilty or undecided it would be worth it
Before seeing this video: Eh, I dunno, maybe whenever I get Fallout 4 I'll do a save siding with the Institute-
*sees them kill the cat*
D EATH. DEATH TO THE INSTITUTE AND ANY BAD SYNTH.
One of your best episodes, and to take care of our parents in their old age should be something that you look forward to as they took care of you when you where young and baby.
1:52 imagine going to see your grandpa and he's just high as shit
"people want to grow old and be taken care of by their kinds in the house they raised them." except I've seen that. I've seen the resource drain, the time, effort, money devoted to prolong the lifespan of an aging person whose health is dwindling. It's a stressful mental taxation spread over a couple years. Who could do that to their child? One of the best ways to emotionally traumatize a person is to put them into a hopeless situation in which they are powerless to change anything.
Hey Ox I ran across this robot at a settlement once and I think it's name was like Dr.groovy or something like that anyways I was wondering what happened there before the war could you possibly make a video on that I'd really like to know the backstory to that settlement, it's the one that's got the wear house in the center of it that has a big mural that says "Free the robots" on it, & I'd really like to know the story behind it.
James Briley Oh yeah, Dr. Goodfeels... One of the NPCs that are on my permanent hit list
Found in sunshine tidings Co op
Fallout 4 was my first fallout, and when I was wandering around I went in there (didn’t know about synths and the institute at the time) and I loved how I just heard what sounded like and evil robot followed by gunshots lol. Definitely one of my favorite locations
Oxhorn: remember, the robots let you check in - for the hunter, he might have been from after the war, in his old age (probably around 100 years after), he wanted to be taken care of, and checked in as well. Survivors are clever, don't forget.
I cried while watching this it reminded me of my grandmothers failing health
oxhorn I really like hearing you talk about the locations in fallout 4 it really shows how depressing it can be
Seriously, you have a lucky family. You seem like a pretty dope dad. Mine never really cared, preferred spitting on my face to actual parenting. Glad to hear how much you care about your fam! It's really heart warming!
Randall probably survived after the bombs and helped feed the cats. He probably shut off the Mr. Handy bots to hunt monsters.
Oxhorn, you are an excellent narrator. I enjoy your videos very much, and I've learnt a lot of Fallout lore from you. Thank you.
I sided with the institute on my first play through, on my second now, and NOW I KNOW THEY KILL CATS?! Bastards.
I'm coming for you Sean.
6:40 From the fact that he had the row boat as his favorite boat, and also had an oar above his bed; my guess is that a row boat is the boat he was actually _Captain_ of and the rest is more appreciation/jealousy of bigger boats.
Used to work in Geri psych. We had people try to escape all the time. In their minds they were 20 years old and their small child is home and needs to be taken care of. They always thought their house was just around the corner and they could walk home when in fact the home their thinking of is 5 states away. The fakebbus stop idea is actually genius. Families spread out, people leave older now and have more complex care. 50 years ago they were dead by 70 75, now people live into their 90s if you take the right combination of drugs. Some people need round the clock care, getting homecare takes a lot of paperwork and in lots of cases$$. Most families keep relatives home until something dangerous happens, like they wander out at night in 10 degree weather, or swan dive off the kitchen table into the "pool" which was actually white kitchen tile. These people need 24/7 care which is much harder when all the children work (50 years ago the wife usually didnt work, daughters ended up taking care of parents). But in the end nicer nursing homes tend not too take govt insurance, cuts in medicare medicaid effect them first.
such a terrible fate... dying alone, no friends or family and cruel caretakers that dont let you leave. you become addicted using chems to ward off the depression even though you know it wont work.
Please do an Episode on the Eddie Winter Story!!!!
he's easily one of my favourite characters. It's a great place to explore too!
Stephen He did one already. : )
Having worked in a nursing home, "escaped" makes perfect sense. I'm not saying this particular nursing home was a wonderful place and no one was being held against their will, but a lot of residents in nursing homes suffer from dementia. We had to have alarms on all of the doors in case someone accidentally wandered out the doors. And I do mean accidentally. We had residents that would walk into any room and think it was theirs, sitting down or going to sleep in a different residents bed and the like. Residents that DID manage to get out were often found wandering near the road, confused. They had no idea where they were or what they were doing. So assuming all of these residents were trying to "escape" is a bit disingenuous, not knowing whether or not the residents suffered from some kind of dementia, or if they had no where to go TO. There are too many families that dump their "loved" ones there and then forget about them.
Holy hell I don't know why I laughed so hard as when you recorded that felinocide. I'm a dog guy at heart but would totally adopt a cat so it's not that. I think it was more the camera movement you made. Either way, I needed that laugh.
My theory is that cat was terminated for working against Institute interests. It killed one too many of the watcher crows.
When you look into fallout 4 some of the lore can be pretty depressing
That synth didn't just kill the cat, he executed it. Like you said, Ox-just another reason to hate the Institute.
Most creatures in the a Commonwealth are hostile by default, even small ones like radroaches, radrats and mole rats (namely the pups), so it’s understandable why synths would be programmed to basically shoot any creatures on sight.
Really, this is why I subbed in the first place. Gopher and Mxr make me laugh, but you make me cry and THINK as well. Your approach has unique depth and obvious fondness for the subject. Your hard work is appreciated. My thanks.
I love the story telling, and how you explain multiple outcomes
awesome! I don't even play fallout, but I still love the lore!
Mr.Handy's are clueless in this game.
I like how many of your videos explaining a video game turn into philosophical ruminations on life and morality.
Interestingly, for me, the Institute showed up very shortly after I arrived (I had just gone around the back to explore the kitchen).
Also, I think the bottlecaps were for checkers, rather than chess. Maybe they couldn't afford a real set?
Great videos! Keep it up!
The game board was definitely set up for checkers and not chess.
good video ox, But it was super depressing.
Dang it Ox! How dare you make me tear up! =D
You ignored the most important loot: THE RESTORED DESK FAN!
Maybe the reason that the rowboat was Mortimer's favourite could be becasue he used to spend a lot of time around them, and it makes him nostalgic. He could be the Boston groundkeeper.
what faction will be Canon?
Josh Zaragoza Can't see them wiping out the BoS, the Minuitmen are essential and the RR make a good plot line and are more of an idea than a cause.
So probably an Institute destruction ending, maybe the one where everyone else lives.
That would mean the Minutemen ending would be canon. With the evac order, the Railroad just needs to focus on inserting the synths into society. The BoS no longer has it's objective in the Commonwealth and will likely leave, because only fools think the non-lyons BoS actually gives a shit about anyone but themselves. They can't stay on to lean on the Institute survivors, because that would get their asses bloodily kicked by the Minutemen and the people of the Commonwealth.
MM ending lets all the loose ends get tied up nicely.
my minute men would own those sex bots in 2 seconds .
Josh Zaragoza peaceful minuteman
fallout4 just doesn't make any sense sometimes..how could those fishes not be decomposed after 200 yrs?,same in the fish packing factory?, why would the residents be playing chess with bottle caps and not actual chess pieces?,it's like Bethesda says well these are the stuff we've coded and we never did chess pieces so fuck it just put bottle caps in there and fish heads, let's hope no one notices lol...could be raiders or scavengers but wouldn't the robots stop them?..lazy
Maybe they were playing Checkers, but didn't have checkers pieces :P
But yeah... It makes more sense when raiders do that rather then Pre-War people.
neclord 88 neclord 88 Wow! You people whine about the most ridiculous things. If you don't like it then don't play the game and gtfo. No one decent gives a single fuck about this crap. I'd like to see your ass make a game like this on a deadline and not have to re-use assets sometimes.
My guess as far as the fish in the convalescent home goes, they're probably not 200 years old. It's likely that the robots were programmed to take care of the cats, and fed them with fish. As time went by, the cats probably left, found other living feral cats, mated, brought their offspring back here, etc. All that time the robots would find fish somehow to prepare into food for the cats. The robots weren't programmed to notice there was anything unusual about taking care of cats for 200 years and probably didn't even notice they weren't the same ones. Explains why there's still cats here; probably they're descendants of the ones belonging to the resident. And the robots keep feeding those descendants.
Oxhorn I like watching you debunk and dissect these interesting places we find in the Fallout Universe, but this one and your final Relay Tower video seem to be the best I've seen thus-far. Keep it up I absolutely love your channel! Wish I could find something really cool for you to do a video on but I'm sure you know every place in the game haha
I used to work in a nursing home, and we used the term escaped, because when the paitient is so senile they actually belive they are 10 and are expected home or else their parents will worry, they intentionally go when nobody is looking. More then once I had to go fetch a patient.
That letter you wrote is a perfect example to how my experience.
You know, I never liked the institute to begin with, but being cat murderers... even the Brotherhood cares for kitties. Institute must go down.
Metalkatt Synths are programed to kill everything that moves if they made them not kill cats then that would slow down their reaction time. But I agree the Institute must die
maybe Mortimer liked the simple row boat because it was the very first boat model that he had? or maybe it was sentimental for him?
I reckon "Mortimer's favourite ship" has personal value, maybe a childhood toy? That explains how worn it was and it explains it's simplicity. Sometimes the value of the most simple of things is tripled by personal attachment.
man, your voice makes these lore's so deep. almost cried watching this especially at the fish in the bathtub part so sad. Makes me think on how video games can impact ppl especially in their heart
I was once kept in a psych ward against my will for psychiatric treatment. The conditions were abysmal. It was cold, the beds were hard as a rock, and you weren't allowed to wear more than the gown they gave you. There were cameras everywhere, and we couldn't even go outside for fresh air. Something about the atmosphere Bethesda put together gave me flashbacks when I first entered and had a look around.
I think this episode is the most seriously commented of any Oxhorn videos. Goodjob Bethesda. You make us all debating and arguing by a merely staged scened in your game. And even find it so much related to our real life experience.
Thanks dude, helped me find all the keys, didn't know the terminal lays out their location. Couldn't find the boat guys key, until I read the note.
I wonder if Sole Survivor would be placed here when he/she gets old? Imagine Cait serving as his/her doctor?
Thanks for the new video! I really enjoy them and find it interesting to compare your conclusions with those of others.
14:36 auto subtitles: did they get wind that an ex military soldier named *GLaDOS* was living here
I'm guessing that Mortimer's model rowboat is his favorite either because it resembles a boat that Mortimer actually used frequently, or was one of his first model boats
I love watching your videos every day! Great way to start my morning!
holy crap, dude, youre like the tao of fallout 4. i totally enjoy your videos and the sound of your voice is soothing lol. i also appreciate your philosophy and deep analyses as well....subscribed and liked!
My explaination for the synths is they are a salvage team. Not something really explored in game (unfortunately) but we know the Institute sends synths to scavenge for resources. This may not have been sent for any one purpose but just a general scavenging run. Just happens they were going in to see what useful things they could find while you were doing the same.
Hi I'm from New Zealand, watching this at 6:15 in the morning, good timing, keep up the good work.
There is another nod towards the Jaws movie where you find the boat. If you go into the water there is a cage stuck in the sandy bottom of the ocean that is damaged and has a skeleton in it along with some goodies. I found it when exploring and actually got stuck in the cage for a bit.
Hey Oxhorn thinking about the synths killing the robots. I remember Valentine mentioned how older generation Synths would go killing everyone in a town looking for spare parts. Maybe that's what they are doing at Sandy Coves, the large number of robots may have advance components and circuits the Synths need to repair themselves. The Institute sure doesn't seem to keep them on a regular maintenance schedule so maybe older Synths are programmed to seek out nearby resources to effect self maintenance and repair.
The bus stop thing is apoarently common irl. They may have an actual bus stop at the corner but they put one close to the door. Its due to people with dementia and alzheimers, people who would get hurt if they wandered off from the home they were in, hence escapees irl
Oxhorn are you a detective like you make out every detail sufficiently and I can't even think of it when I play the game. Just wow.
I think old man oxehorn in a old folks home telling fallout lore to horrified workers sounds amazing