Stock refinishing - removing the old stain and preparation.
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2016
- Part 2 of the old stock project. The dents and bruises have been steamed out. Now its time to remove all the old stain and prepare the wood for the application of new colour and finish
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beautiful, exactly what i was looking for thanks man
Brake cleaner really removes everything
This works better than anything I’ve tried yet.
Hi Neil,
Thank you very much for your series on re furbing gunstocks. I've really enjoyed them and they've helped me very much.
Thank you also for showing us your Gin B stock on your Theoben SLR 98 in another posting. That has to be the most gorgeous piece of kit. Not just the stock, but the Theoben action, the magazine, pellet indexing on an underlever, how it all works, etc.
Absolute genius. A most beautiful, beautiful piece of kit, thank you.
I'm in the process of doing up a Diana Original Model 35. I'm going to apply what you've taught me with the stock.
The action hadnt been maintained at all and very dry. I've replaced the seals, sleeved the spring guide and piston, made my own top hat, and re lubed.
They don't recieve a great write up and I believe thats why the Diana Model 34 came out. However, that said, the action works fantastic now and no more twang/buzz. I'm so glad I made the effort. It belonged to my late, much loved father who would have been so pleased.
Great job!
Spray on Oven Cleaner works great for removing any Oil based Product, Stain or Oil, Neil. Great videos mate. Thanks
That sounds like a plan
Damn good job my friend
that is amazing Mr Birkin sir I think you are now our go to fella for fixing field weary stocks lol
Dave
Good video and tips.
Great video. This is by far the best method or solution to whitening the wood stock. I had tried other bleach products but did not come close to your finish. So I ordered a bottle of this Domestos bleach. I ordered the one you showed on here, they sent me the same but reads "No stronger" instead of "Extended". All ready stripped the wood of the varnish and tomorrow I will start the bleaching. I am looking to get a nice Palomino tone. Just wonder if Winmax Natural wood Stain will give me that. Perhaps just yellow shellac.
Hi Neil
I have used domestos on a few stocks now .
I found it was used in America on one of their forums .
It can dry the wood out though and needs rinsed fully .
You can also use oxalic acid to remove the stain.
Keep the videos coming they are brilliant.
Yep - I washed the stock off thoroughly when it was done :)
Hi pal great videos Iam following them for a mk1 hw 80 Iam referbing it's a lot easier following them than going in blind thanks
+Darren Fox - enjoy mate. The 8p I'd a great gun. I love how mine shoots now it's done :)
Cheers pal
I put stocks int he Dish Washer with bleach on the hot water setting. I turn off the heat dry setting. Granted I have only don this with military surplus rifles but I have not had any problems yet at all. I will often I put a dishwasher crystals in the washer as well. When it comes out I dry it with a blow dryer and then sand since the hot water raises the grain. I have to take the top rack out of the dishwasher to fit the stock in. I have done that 3 times now and never any problem.
Dye wood dye is difficult to find in America you normally have to order it off the internet since no stores sell them. They sell stains everywhere but not wood dyes! So it was very interesting to the dye in action.
Brilliant idea M8, thanks for the info
Steam out the stain with a clean cloth and a clothes iron. Lifts right out onto the cloth.
Please do this in a well ventilated room or the Pink Unicorn stood beside you will continue singing "Midnight the Stars and You" ?
I have used bleach before, but know now that it does not remove the wood stain, rather it turns the stain "white", as well as the wood, so it is not a natural color. Here is how I have just removed the old stain from a used M14 wood stock, came out perfect. (1) Used 120 grit sand paper to get top layer of stain off, not much work. (2) Painted a heavy coat of Citristrip on the entire stock, left it on for about 16 hours. (3) Pressure washed the stripper off, being careful to keep the pressure washer wand moving across the stock, with the grain. (4) Sprayed Krud Cutter on the stock and on 00 steel wool, scrubbed the stock with grain, pressure washed the Krud Cutter off, did this three times. (5) Hung to dry. It really looks like virgin wood. When I started this I was hoping to just lightly sand it all off, but could see the stain in the pores, and sanding that out would cut to much wood. So, knowing the stain is oil based, tried the Citrustrip, but thought how would the stain be removed from the pores, (normally people scrape the Citristrip off with plastic putty knife) so I though pressure wash it. The pressure washer scooped the loosened stain from the pores perfectly. I probably could have stopped there, but decided to use Krud Cutter as well for good measure. I will use this method again. If you soak virgin walnut in bleach, it will change the color of it to an unnatural whiter color. Just FYI.
I’ll try this with my M1 Garand stock. Thanks
How long do you leave the bleach on for on doin my first stock at the moment on a first edition s300
I've had good luck with removing the stain, getting back to original light wood color with some Marlin stocks using a paste of pool chlorine crystals. You can achieve a much stronger chlorine concentration than with bleach, and you can control the amount of moisture. Make a paste, apply it all over and let it sit a few hours. Come back and re-apply with freshly moistened paste. The other seldom used wood chemical is called 'wood bleach' used by furniture restorers. It will remove any kind of iron stains from wood (those pesky black rings on oak for example). It is not really bleach, it's oxyalic acid that you can buy in liquid or crystal form. Then, use aquafortis to bring out the natural grain in these light woods (flintlock rifle makers used this on their maple stocks to achieve the reddish color).
That's traditional wood working. Good work perfect. That's 🤑 top notch.
I also have info on cold bluing. I’ve been working with it for 15-20 years. How to not have streaks. How to darken it. And.. how to allow it to remain a nice blue and not’brown’ over time. It took a lot of guns and a lot of years to figure this out.
Hi…
Just seen this. I am starting a project stripping back and refinishing an electric guitar body. I would like to know what tips or preparations you used to strip back the thick varnish.
I have tried everything from sanding to heat gun to Nitromors and nothing is touching it. Have you any experience with caustic soda or anything similar? I need something to get into the awkward shapes and curves similar to your gunstock.
I would be grateful for any advice. Thanks
Phil
cabinet scraper
Nice video mate👍🏻,What exact wood dye did you put in on if you don’t mind adding the link below👇🏻
what did you mix the bleach with to get it to foam up like that?
Nothing. It just foamed as I worked it with the brush on the surface.
I've got a really uncooperative stock that's got oil buildup on the grip (it's a Monte Carlo stock). What would you recommend I do to get it to a consistent colour for staining?
+RandomCanEHdian completely strip it. Use the industrial paint stripper you can buy from ebay (like the stuff I used)
How much do you dilute the house bleach, or do you just use it straight from the bottle?
I've bleached my stock multiple times but it won't whiten any more.
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Check out Larry potterfield’s video on how to do so. It starts at 1:30. Or you can watch the entire video from beginning to end like I do. I’ve lost count how many times I’ve watched it.
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What wood die did you use??
Is this John fury?
Hi could you tell me if the stain you used was water or spirit based
+davep water based mate. Rustins red mahogany (if memory serves correct)
shootingatdawn hi was this a dye or a stain ? Thanks
Hi
Stripping identical stock but even after eight neat bleaches still some left
Any ideas maybe steam store areas
Any help would be great
Thanks love your vidieos
Doing an HW97, seems like bleech is key... Others use steam, but... Yours is very light. Did if effect final result
Not ince I had stained it no.
@@shootingatdawn thanks! Will. Follow suite.
I'm about to strip a old walnut stock from my father in laws Winchester 100 and he's asked for the new finish to be blondish stain instead of a normal walnut color, any suggestions how i can achieve that?
Bleach as done in video, use linseed oil only and it should stay pretty light. Tru oil will be slightly better but you might end up with it darker idk, I've never used Tru oil on a bleached stock.
@@randomgeneratedname1264 I was thinking the same, just wanted to confirm, thank you very much
Gonna have to say sorry but this is movie magic I just tried this and most definitely didn’t end up with his results or anything close. It did bleach things but didn’t strip the finish
Yes, the clue is in the name... stain. At best this is going to alter the colour of the stain in the fibres. Also, to ongoing damage to the wood the bleach will need to be neutralized. Household chlorine bleach (sodium hypochlorite) is alkaline and has a pH of between 11 and 13. Without an acid to drop the pH the wood fibres will continue to dissolve, albeit, perhaps, over years.
Were it me, I would wash the stock in a vinegar solution before drying. For each cycle of bleach, follow with a cycle of vinegar whilst still wet, then plain water.
Plain tap water is around pH 7 to 8 (slightly alkaline). Neutral pH is 7
Work
I use Acidtone it will remove all oils and stains
I have used laquer thinner also
Acetone
two words: krud kutter
gets rid of a lot of crap in the stock
Do you think this method will work for a TX 200 stock?
+Keith Scott yes mate. I did a Walther stock after this one and it took a lot longer with more coats of bleach to remove the stain. It all depends on the type of stain they use.
+Keith Scott yes mate. I did a Walther stock after this one and it took a lot longer with more coats of bleach to remove the stain. It all depends on the type of stain they use.
+Keith Scott yes mate. I did a Walther stock after this one and it took a lot longer with more coats of bleach to remove the stain. It all depends on the type of stain they use.
+Keith Scott yes mate. I did a Walther stock after this one and it took a lot longer with more coats of bleach to remove the stain. It all depends on the type of stain they use.
+Keith Scott yes mate. I did a Walther stock after this one and it took a lot longer with more coats of bleach to remove the stain. It all depends on the type of stain they use.
What is your stain remover?
bleach listen
Go to the wood store for wood bleach. Is the best. Us on eny kind of Stan.
Sounds Australian.
Didn't know they were allowed to own guns anymore.
Either way looks pretty good.
Umm, sounds very much like a Brit!
Obviously you don't know your rifles very well, as this is an air rifle! 🤦
this is not walnut