Review: Polyend SEQ and POLY: One sequencer to rule them all?

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  • Опубліковано 16 жов 2024

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  • @asmr6773
    @asmr6773 Рік тому +5

    I hate when a company discontinue a nice product.😡

  • @petermgruhn
    @petermgruhn 2 роки тому +1

    This may have been the first loopop video I saw. The intro sold me and I've been here since. Well done.

  • @jhdrummer4815
    @jhdrummer4815 Рік тому +3

    I had the chance to buy it for less than half price and I still love it. Nowadays there are many more option like the Play or Harpax but I get so used with the SEQ that it became my creative tool even before going through DAW. I think I’m using it quite differently from the typical loop based modular thing, I’m arranging chords and songs in a straightforward way that set all the basis before DAW recording.

  • @stateazure
    @stateazure 6 років тому +5

    Great review loopop. Any idea if the Seq would interface well with Hermod? Since it also has MIDI/USB in I'm wondering if I could get away with the Seq without having to buy the Poly module, for sequencing eurorack. I guess it would just be a matter of setting the channels up correctly, though not sure how Hermod handles the velocity and mod output from the Seq, unless those two can be sent out on different MIDI channels.

  • @valdiskrebs566
    @valdiskrebs566 6 років тому +20

    This looks perfect for the kind of music I make. The comments below remind of when the Apple Macintosh was first released and people were complaining how expensive it was compared to an MS/DOS computer with its clunky command line interface... you pay for the UI/UX.

    • @Polyend
      @Polyend 6 років тому +11

      Thank you for your comment, we were trying to find a good comparison but you've nailed it!

    • @sssncodesstuff3364
      @sssncodesstuff3364 6 років тому +2

      come on, its not the first sequencer using grid of unlit buttons, its has great build quality and it has "biggest" grid so far(if you are considering just pure HW alternatives, otherwise monome was there many years ago) looks like its well thought out but its really not mackintosh of hw sequencers... for this money you're close to things like cirklon that really are on different level having UI/UX features unseen anywhere else.

    • @Polyend
      @Polyend 6 років тому +3

      Matěj Ošanec but it's not about what it can do, it's more about what it cannot and what makes it unique, the simplicity and intuitive use, fun, of course the design too. Also, why there's always a need to compare to othera? Sometimes some things are just working for you, sometimes not. Different strokes for different folks. It's also not about price, it's about how you feel it, it's impossible to make a insteument that will fit all. All best!

    • @sssncodesstuff3364
      @sssncodesstuff3364 6 років тому +4

      Don't get me wrong, i am glad there is many options these days, and SEQ is great and fun sequencer, totally agree that more is not always better, but comparison to ui/ux revolution with macs mentioning usability as main selling point just seems a bit off for me as there are others moving that part forward. that is not really about what it can do but rather how.

    • @Polyend
      @Polyend 6 років тому +6

      Matěj Ošanec you're right, the comparison wasn't ours thou, we just claim we like it ;) we do not aim at becoming musical gear world Apple :) Best!

  • @BenA718
    @BenA718 6 років тому +15

    Great review, really liked the opening, very clever and well filmed! The Poly is on my short list of modules to get.

  • @ethermod307
    @ethermod307 3 роки тому +3

    Great review as always but I missed the way for entering notes/data on each step, which is for me the most important aspect of a sequencer.

  • @jc3drums916
    @jc3drums916 4 роки тому +5

    I love sequencers with buttons for instantaneous control of individual notes, and this seems pretty simple and straightforward to use. But the price seems incredibly high for its feature set. $600-800 might be more reasonable, depending on the cost of materials. But I'm just looking at it as a consumer; it might be a different story on the other side.
    The ideal for me would be a combination of the SEQ, a grid controller, and the Twisted Electrons Crazy8 (probability/randomization, onboard CV/gate outs, sync in/out). Get on it, Novation!

    • @mdeerocks6792
      @mdeerocks6792 11 місяців тому

      Hapax ticks all the boxes, it has "only" 16 notes wide grid (pattern length is much more than that)

  • @johnkrummrich4948
    @johnkrummrich4948 4 роки тому +2

    Best thing ever for making beats
    I use mine just like I would drum notation

  • @alifeinyellow
    @alifeinyellow 3 роки тому +1

    I’m currently using a Circuit Tracks as my main sequencer, but was looking around once I’m ready for an upgrade. I definitely thinking, even with the expense, I’ll be getting a Seq. I know for the money I could get a Deluge or something similar, but I just want a simple but powerful sequencer. Nothing else. No groovebox or internal engines to mess with.
    I also don’t enjoy the Elektron workflow, and I don’t really have as much free time to get to know a Digitakt or Octatrak deeply to justify purchasing one.
    Of course, thank you Loopop for having another great video to help me make a choice.

  • @DoFunkk
    @DoFunkk 5 років тому +1

    it's very nice but missing cv outputs. The price tag is very high and not having cv outputs :( ...Ill wait for the next version which hopefully adds cv outputs.

    • @badperson
      @badperson 5 років тому

      ...lol, thats what the Poly Mod is.. if you do any research they say that one of the first SEQ designs had CV outs, and they didn't like it like that - and made that part external: hence the Poly.. this is the "next" version.. all the updates will now be via firmware.

    • @2112jonr
      @2112jonr 5 років тому

      The price now includes the MIDI/CV module.

  • @The_Digital_Arts_World
    @The_Digital_Arts_World 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for the overview of Polyend’s SEQ and POLY. I find myself scratching my head trying to decide whether to splurge on the current SEQ plus POLY deal right now while using two Winter Modular Eloquencers. The SEQ just appears to be more “user friendly” and does not take up the rack space that the Eloquencers do.

  • @lt4801
    @lt4801 4 роки тому +5

    hey, a little tip: You can run your keystep into ableton, and then use the cv feature there, and then connect ableton to your modular. this way, ableton tunes for you, wich is very helpfull :)

  • @monomakes
    @monomakes Рік тому

    What a joyous outro! Lovely work :)

  • @thom-alphaxiii-5106
    @thom-alphaxiii-5106 6 років тому +10

    I think for the price i’ll go for a sequentrix cirklon, but this seq is awsome

    • @rubyares7010
      @rubyares7010 2 роки тому

      Double price actually plus waiting list

    • @thom-alphaxiii-5106
      @thom-alphaxiii-5106 2 роки тому

      @@rubyares7010 squarp hapax on the way :)

    • @thom-alphaxiii-5106
      @thom-alphaxiii-5106 2 роки тому

      @@rubyares7010 SeQ+poly was almost cirklon's price at the time of this old video

    • @altemotiv
      @altemotiv 2 роки тому

      Well yeah, if you had 500€ to spare, then it would be the same price 🙃

    • @rubyares7010
      @rubyares7010 2 роки тому +1

      @Thom -Alpha XIII- Squarp instruments did it again, can’t wait to get my hands on this beast!

  • @MartinDoudoroffLLC
    @MartinDoudoroffLLC 6 років тому +4

    Admirably efficient review

  • @D-One
    @D-One 6 років тому +3

    WOW... Im not even a step sequencer kind of guy but I would something like this for Ableton, just the controller though because 1.2k is a bit high

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +1

      I agree it’s a high price ... the initial sequence was running empty Ableton tracks containing kontakt instruments - and indeed it was a much more immediate experience than using a grid and mouse. But yeah, the price is an issue.

  • @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene
    @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 6 років тому +19

    All I need, and most of us need is a hardware MIDI sequencer (like they had in the old days). They are very inexpensive and could loop 16 channels (instruments) and tracks to be output via MIDI to our gear. Gone would be the short 1 to 4 measure loop, we could loop 100 measures if we wanted. It would only cost about $150.00 for MIDI and maybe $200.00 for MIDI and analog sync. Would someone please build one?

    • @rdean150
      @rdean150 6 років тому +5

      Wilderness Music I don't know, it seems like us synth geeks have high expectations. It would also need: USB connectivity (ideally with host capabilities), a software editor/librarian (bonus points if its a web app), MIDI routing and merging, realtime MIDI note, CC, and sysex recording and sequencing, per-step parameter locking, randomness, and conditional trigs, battery power (DC power supply optional and of course not included), Bluetooth and Ethernet MIDI compatibility, and of course the #1 most important thing in the current market: CV outs for sequencing modular rigs. And it has to have a compelling interface that is both intuitive and hyper flexible / powerful. I don't think hardware units with controls as obtuse as, say, the 303 would fly today if they're not based on actual legacy units, where the "vintage" label means all sins are forgiven. EDIT - ok that last point is clearly wrong, modern modular units often have far more obtuse interfaces than old legacy synths and sequencers. The terms "analog" and "modular" also grant a product a certain exemption from usability complaints.

    • @bigdyke69
      @bigdyke69 5 років тому +2

      I totally agree! I think it's because they're trying to pack in more hardware-based features like synths and filters and such because most people who produce use a daw and aren't as likely to have that much hardware gear. They want to make them as a sort of intro to hardware sequencing but I HATE using soft synths. I'm a tactile guy:)

    • @maticherzog
      @maticherzog 5 років тому +5

      fuck man, exactly what I am thinking for a while now. on one hand you have the korg basic sequencer for 100e that can run only one channel, then you have the boring beatstep pro and nothing until you get to the squarp or polyend....elektron machines only have 8 midi instead of 16 that normally is enough for smaller hardware studios, and cirklon is already 2k. especially squarp in unlimited in features. I am def missing something in between. that would be amazing. lets hope behringer makes something haha

    • @Tubeinnit
      @Tubeinnit 4 роки тому +1

      RS7000 👍

    • @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene
      @WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 4 роки тому +2

      @@Tubeinnit Yes, there were hardware choices 30 years ago. I don't buy vintage electronics, can't afford the continual repair costs.

  • @M_A484
    @M_A484 6 років тому +4

    Looks like a great piece of hardware, but yeah not sure the price fits...

  • @HH-Thorsten
    @HH-Thorsten 6 років тому +3

    Awesome piece of hardware. Would like to own one. Great video btw. Like !

  • @maxmatson1578
    @maxmatson1578 5 років тому +3

    Does it have accent and glide¿?🎹

  • @tedpitzen1080
    @tedpitzen1080 6 років тому +2

    Nice LOOPOP lights at the end

  • @stinkypete9070
    @stinkypete9070 2 роки тому +3

    Bit bummed out they discontinued it. I’ve been through a lot of sequencers and while I liked a few this one really hit the spot for me, now I baby mine and hope it never dies otherwise there’s no replacing it new

    • @robinr22
      @robinr22 Рік тому

      Given how laughably overpriced it was, I'm amazed they sold any so it's not surprising that they binned it. Plus, am I right in thinking you can't expand a track and use the pads as a piano roll? Assuming so, it's missing basic functionality, which, at this price, is absolutely ridiculous.

  • @kuldeepgohel29
    @kuldeepgohel29 4 роки тому +1

    Just one question.... where do you save your patterns (sequences) in this instrument? Like I am trying to buy this and use it as my main midi-sequencer connected to the 3 synths and a drum machine... so I will spend few days making all the patters and liking the tracks to my synths and external gears.... but main question is HOW DO I SAVE MY PATTERNS that I will be developing daily? 😁 it’s a simple query but seems to getting answered nowhere! Thank you and great video as always!

    • @PORRFNK
      @PORRFNK 3 роки тому

      Via. USB and the app. The Seq saves patterns by it self. No save function. But you can save and restore with the app. But I would consider the Elektron Digitone if your main thing is not - out there weird sequences.

  • @Tuxemuun
    @Tuxemuun 6 років тому +1

    Excelent review. I like both devices. Congratulations!

  • @woodswalker88
    @woodswalker88 4 роки тому +8

    It looks like 2 Deluges spliced together.

  • @jaka.kragelj
    @jaka.kragelj 3 роки тому

    Why are the three gates mixed together at 7:24 and routed into Mother 32? Shouldn't one gate go to DFAM? The pitch control wiring makes sense to me.

    • @jaka.kragelj
      @jaka.kragelj 3 роки тому

      I'm starting to learn about synthesizers... So somehow the DFAM only gets "VCO 1 CV" and "VCO 2 CV", sends the output of the two oscilators through VCO1 and VCO2 to Mother 32, into Mix1 and Mix2. The mix goes then into "VC mix" -> "Ext. Audio" -> VCA -> back to "ES-8". Did I get this right? What then? :) Does the mixed gate input into "Gate" of Mother 32 trigger the Mix1 and Mix2?

    • @jaka.kragelj
      @jaka.kragelj 3 роки тому

      btw. this is a really nice and well made video. Thanks!

  • @coolben1310
    @coolben1310 5 років тому +3

    That intro is so creative, well done and thanks for the review.

  • @MathHammer
    @MathHammer 5 років тому +9

    You can just throw out the fifth and get a viable seventh chord with three notes :)

  • @InfotoxIn
    @InfotoxIn 6 років тому +8

    I’d love to see you explore the Squarp Pyramid.

  • @ebones7125
    @ebones7125 3 роки тому

    Can you do a video for people who don't want to turn a knob to write music? I just want to sequence a few vintage keyboards (with midi) and a drum machine without a computer. Basically a modern MSQ-700. Something I can use one of the boards as a controller and have basic 4-track recording like experience with some midi extras like syncing and quantizing and swing and all that. Is there a product like this? I've been waiting for 20 years and they all have some weird hang up or are overly complicated. I was hoping this was the answer but you skipped over how to use it with a keyboard and normal synths.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  3 роки тому

      Check out my review of LoopA or Squarp Pyramid

  • @GuitarManiac1975
    @GuitarManiac1975 6 років тому +1

    Once again an awesome review... and the SEQ seems to be really nice. But the price?! Whoa!!!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому

      CloudSounds! Thanks! And I know :(

  • @MikPeterRasmussen
    @MikPeterRasmussen 3 роки тому

    Greateview as always 👌💯🤘 How would you rate this in comparison with Monome’s 128 grid for us with Norns Shied? Waiting for a Norns but have no grid and Monome is alwayssold out and equally priced of sorts. Thinking this might be better for overview though I do love the sleek lok of Monome too. But this does look nice also. Hope to hear from you, Thanks. Best, Mik

    • @loopop
      @loopop  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks! No hands on with Monome 128 (hopefully soon) but this is very different - this is "just a sequencer", the grid is just a "display" into whatever app you're running with it (so, much more or much less depending on what you do)

    • @MikPeterRasmussen
      @MikPeterRasmussen 3 роки тому

      @@loopop Cheers. Just realizing the Polyend is a 8 track but only 32 step per track. In that respect I guess scripts for Norns are more compatible with e.g. 64 /128 /256 grids. Or I am wrong here?As I understand it many scripts are targeting 128 grids. I get this is a somewhat impossible question. Was just wondering if this was a 256 grid til consider when in fact is is a 32 x grid...I think haha. Still wrapping my head around this grids in theory because I have no Norn and no Norns scripts to actually test yet. Always thought about getting a Monome 128 or 256 grid for Norns and just paused when I remembered this device. Since Monome are often out of stock and all...If you can help me decide what is better for Norns please do. I often go the routes you demo. Keep of the great work! Best, Mik ;-)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  3 роки тому +1

      I hope to cover the ecosystem in the near future!

  • @Riktenstein
    @Riktenstein 5 років тому +1

    I must have missed something. How do you sequence a pattern on it?

  • @Onelychild
    @Onelychild 5 років тому

    Very in-depth review. Thank you for sharing this.

  • @BillyBatsonMarvel
    @BillyBatsonMarvel 5 років тому +3

    Cirklon rules them all.

  • @LawrenHelder
    @LawrenHelder 6 років тому +1

    Curious what advantages this has over using a deluge for sequencing (besides bigger grid)... Any comments loopop?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +5

      Lawren Helder Deluge has a synth, sampler and about 10x more features (60 page manual compared to 3...), whereas this is “just” a sequencer. However, there are some fun quick a pattern making functions here that I wish the Deluge had, like the pattern rolls and random notes that fill scales (I just uploaded a video demoing that to all my social accounts except UA-cam) with a clear screen so you know what’s going on. I guess Deluge is like a genius rocket scientist friend and this is like simple but spontaneous party animal friend - either are good to hang out with but very different. Or Chess vs Candy Crush. The 32 vs 16 steps actually isn’t the biggest difference. A quick scroll left and right on Deluge gives you 32 steps very quickly

    • @frankstetka7206
      @frankstetka7206 4 роки тому +1

      Yes, it’s a tough call because this and the Deluge are so very different. I like both of them but can not afford to have each at this time and so I feel at this price point it’s perhaps wise to spend more and get a Deluge but do I really need another synth? Yes 🤣
      When I first saw this after having Medusa, I thought this is a no brainer but I was dreaming of all those pads being able to play various scales like having multiple Medusa pads all together.
      It’s perhaps easier to use the Polyend unit for live performances or on the fly recordings as I like to do just for the sake of its large grid and features not found elsewhere but it’s just such a niche device - Beautifully executed no less; it’s not plastic and this is part of the price. The chassis alone cost the manufacturer considerably more than plastic however my price range falls into usability over feel oftentimes.
      I have an M audio Vemon Synth which feels like a cheap toy but it sounds very good for some of what I do for example.

  • @TROGULAR10000
    @TROGULAR10000 6 років тому +2

    I didn't realize you could get so realistic sounding in programming orchestral music with virtual instruments and a sequencer, but I guess it makes sense. If you can go further than you have here, and program swing per step as you wish and otherwise generally humanize the performance, then does that mean modern classical orchestral/soundtracks are made this way rather than hiring orchestras?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +2

      TROGULAR 10,000 I am sure big time composers will still want to get an orchestra in a room and of course that can do things a sample library can’t - but the Spitfire libraries are just amazing if you can’t afford an orchestra. And I didn’t even do much in terms of levels here - which would make it sound even more realistic...

    • @TROGULAR10000
      @TROGULAR10000 6 років тому +2

      That is really beautiful sounding texture-wise, thanks for the answer!

    • @NGC1433
      @NGC1433 6 років тому +2

      Hans Zimmer did work on a bunch of really good sample packs exactly for that. His mission there was to allow a simple dude with a laptop compose orchestral music. Or at least that's what he said in promo video. And that stuff is mind boggling! hair rising, soul rattling...I am not a musician, I am an audiophile.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +1

      I haven't tried his sound pack, this one is called Albion One, but Hans Zimmer worked with the same company (Spitfire Audio) - so I expect it's phenomenal - they really know their stuff

  • @paulmera7677
    @paulmera7677 6 років тому +2

    Anybody knows the name of the instrumental put at the beginning of the presentation ? Thanks a lot ! 😏

    • @derekbaker3279
      @derekbaker3279 6 років тому +3

      It's from the classical music piece called "Also Sprach Zarathustra" (by Richard Strauss) The section that is sequenced is the opening fanfare called "Sunrise", and it is most well known in popular culture as the opening theme in the Stanley Kubrick film called "2001: A Space Odyssey".

    • @paulmera7677
      @paulmera7677 6 років тому +2

      @@derekbaker3279 thanks a lot for your valuable information Mr Baker . You're really wise in music world !👌

  • @Rollur1234
    @Rollur1234 4 місяці тому

    Please ask Polyend if Play+ is approaching the perform mode on the midi/synth channels. Also send best regards. I love it❤

    • @loopop
      @loopop  4 місяці тому +1

      Please speak with them directly, I already did the best I could, which is mention it in this video. It’s best when pressure comes from users/potential buyers

    • @loopop
      @loopop  4 місяці тому

      I meant in my play+ video…

    • @Rollur1234
      @Rollur1234 4 місяці тому

      Absolutely, will do. I forgot to say how much I appreciate your introductions Loopop. My top youtube entertainment❤️

  • @lo-boy6956
    @lo-boy6956 2 роки тому

    Great video thanks

  • @Kale_116
    @Kale_116 3 роки тому

    So it's dead? No longer available

  • @aminal5
    @aminal5 3 роки тому

    which firmware is it?

  • @bisamkiez
    @bisamkiez 6 років тому +1

    Is it possible to assign CC change per step without triggering MIDI note, Elektron style?

    • @badperson
      @badperson 5 років тому +1

      you could just put the velocity all the way down.. you would still HAVE to trigger a gate at least right?

    • @PORRFNK
      @PORRFNK 3 роки тому

      @@badperson Yes 1 paramter can be CC and then you have velocity

  • @troypol343
    @troypol343 5 років тому +1

    Interesting sequencer. Honestly, I would prefer to have the workflow of an MMT-8. Where you basically play your performance on your keyboard and record. Nothing currently available that I am aware of offers that simplicity in making complete songs. There are plenty of step sequencers and looping machines. The closest I came was a Pyramid but it was temperamental/quirky and the UI is not adequate for its features. There is really nothing in the market of hardware sequences that has the simplicity of the MMT-8 for recording and arranging patterns into songs. It would be great if larger companies like Korg, Yamaha, and Roland would make hardware sequencers for creating full songs because I HATE using computers for music-making and prefer hardware.

    • @craigbroadfoot1851
      @craigbroadfoot1851 4 роки тому +2

      Probably a workstation keyboard is your best bet in that case - I used to use a Triton Extreme for this before using my DAW and it was perfectly usable with great sounds built in!

  • @robertsyrett1992
    @robertsyrett1992 5 років тому +1

    That into was pretty inspired.

  • @noobslayerr9732
    @noobslayerr9732 4 роки тому +1

    Beautiful

  • @alienanxiety
    @alienanxiety 5 років тому +3

    Cool product, nice review. As someone who almost exclusively uses Elektron gear, this isn't for me.

  • @lars-fenin
    @lars-fenin 6 років тому +10

    too expensive... although that polyend module /external is a nice feature

  • @MadelnMachines
    @MadelnMachines 6 років тому

    Can you easily adjust the position of individual notes you've played in or does it have to apply to the whole track? Can you edit the note value or velocity of a note even if it's on grid? Do off grid notes still show up as lights as if they were on grid?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +1

      Made In Machines yes, yes, and there aren’t any off grid notes - what you see is what you get (if you mean not perfectly quantized notes, yes you see them)

    • @MadelnMachines
      @MadelnMachines 6 років тому

      @@loopop Seems pretty good. There are so many sequencers it's hard to choose. I want something that keeps things simple without too much menu diving and allows you to easily see what you are doing. I quite like the look and simplicity of the koma komplex and the screen of the cirklon. I'm curious about the new five12 eurorack module or the new analog solutions one. Squarp and many others seem way to menu driven. Karbon seems interesting.

  • @BluffMunkey
    @BluffMunkey 6 років тому +1

    Can you create polyrhythmic control data like you can with the new(ish) M4L Melodic Steps sequencer in Ableton Live 10?
    I would love to be able to create a sequence on a synth, and then also send out pitch, note length, velocity and chance data polyrhythmically like you can with that excellent plugin.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +2

      Didn’t research m4l but here each sequence can be any number of steps you want up to 32 (and I guess more if you count going back and forth)

    • @BluffMunkey
      @BluffMunkey 6 років тому +1

      Thanks, but can you (for example) create a sequence that's 32 steps long, and then have a separate channel control velocity on that same synth that's (for example) 23 steps long and another channel controlling transpose that's 17 steps long, in effect creating a semi random sequence.
      There's no mention of it in the manual....which appears to be 4 pages long lol!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +2

      Yes I think so, especially if you’re using cv, probably also midi because if I remember correctly you can direct two tracks to the same channel. I am not sure though how it would handle velocities. This was a review unit I had to give back so you might want to check in with the company

    • @BluffMunkey
      @BluffMunkey 6 років тому +1

      Ok cheers. Loving the videos by the way, very unique style with rare detailed insights into new stuff.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +1

      Thanks and good luck!

  • @j.sherwoodowl4826
    @j.sherwoodowl4826 4 роки тому +2

    The Tenori-On has entered the chat...

  • @spybloodjr
    @spybloodjr 6 років тому +1

    The SEQ is beautiful. Have you had a chance to mess around with the Octatrack MKII?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +1

      Scott Youngblood it is for sure ... no, unfortunately not but it’s somewhere on my to do list ... just need to get one...

  • @originalfallinggirl
    @originalfallinggirl 5 років тому +5

    I’ll stick with the Synthstrom Deluge.

  • @thomasm8077
    @thomasm8077 3 роки тому

    So 3 years later, do you use the polyend seq?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  3 роки тому

      I gave it back after the review - maybe someone else can comment about long term use. If I had it I'd probably use it when I needed something simple that looks good :)

    • @thomasm8077
      @thomasm8077 3 роки тому

      @@loopop awesome. Thanks for the reply

  • @PgTrAxX
    @PgTrAxX 6 років тому +4

    Would be better if the price was around a good DAW (like 500 bucks or something) IMO. It's like a hardware piano roll with some nice features for live use. Interesting!
    Nice product and review 👍

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +3

      Pg TrAxX thanks and I agree that I would be nice of it cost less - I say that loud and clear in the clip and I saw the company has been through the comments. Not sure if it’s possible at all to make it cheaper - they would know better if so

    • @PgTrAxX
      @PgTrAxX 6 років тому +1

      Yeah, i've heard it in your review loud and clear 👍
      But the more people agree with the statement, maybe they'll rethink the price. I also gave a good reason (DAW piano roll). Alot of people nowadays have a piano roll (even the cheaper android tablets which makes for 300-500 bucks for a "decent one" plus software/app). So yeah.... it is expensive BUT i admit, there are people that are full hardware purists (using a computer to record in the end! lol ) and i understand those people to some extent.
      I'm 50/50 so far. Don't take my comment as negative. I mean it positive in all sense. Great review and good voice/accent makes it fun to listen :) I'll await more of yours!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +1

      Pg TrAxX thanks ;)

  • @Skiddoo42
    @Skiddoo42 4 роки тому +2

    You don't need to play 7th chords. That's what the NDLR is for.

  • @christoroppolo8742
    @christoroppolo8742 6 років тому +2

    Another tool I would love to have. Peace Christo

  • @Steak111steak
    @Steak111steak 6 років тому +1

    So is it limited to 32 steps total or that's all it displays?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +1

      Steak111steak each pattern is limited to 32 steps, but you can chain them like I do in the intro

    • @Steak111steak
      @Steak111steak 6 років тому +1

      Ok, cool. How did you like it compared to the Deluge? I had a deluge and really liked it however I couldn't get past the limited screen and I tend to make evolving ambient music so having as many steps visible at one time is attractive.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +1

      Well Deluge has quick scrolling features as you know - so I don’t find the 32 vs 16 a factor personally. If that makes it for you then go for it of course. Deluge is more powerful in general and more complex. This has some nice quick - fill options though, which deluge does not. Download the manual - it’s only 3 pages

  • @mannytuzman3461
    @mannytuzman3461 5 років тому

    PLEASE Make it possible for me to control SEQ with a wind controller??????
    I think you're almost there. I would buy it in a second if it did and many others would too.
    I really want this: A device that allows me to play an arpeggio with some kind of sustain and it records the sequence of notes and stores it for later recall. A realtime sequencer!!!!
    It may involve sending a CC message that allows me to turn on the sequencer and off, and recall different sequences or just perform the sequence of notes/chords/arppeggios in the form of chords, with one note pressed repeatedly. Something like that..
    Please make this happen??????
    Also I want to control the device to play chords with a wind controller:
    So a CC message would have to be able to turn on a mode or something that enables
    me to : change chords hopefully by playing a note on the wind controller like I play C and then E in the low register (not used much) and I get Major, C and Eb minor, etc.......
    I would want to play inverted chords---or like the vocalist voice chords to my melody after picking a chord.
    I HOPE YOU READ THIS
    It would be great if you accommodated my request.
    Manny

  • @laurencevanhelsuwe3052
    @laurencevanhelsuwe3052 6 років тому +1

    Does anyone know any article or YT which compares the SEQ and the Deluge? Both feature these massive LED button matrices.. and they are comparable in price too (more or less).

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +1

      I’ve reviewed both but you probably already saw that :) I think that’s the best way to compare

    • @Polyend
      @Polyend 6 років тому +1

      Laurence Vanhelsuwe but what's the reason in comparing a sequencer to a workstation (which has a build in sequencer)?

  • @newtronix
    @newtronix 6 років тому +3

    and in the darkness bind them!

  • @avrakotas
    @avrakotas 6 років тому +11

    It's nice, but the price :O

    • @BleepingRelics
      @BleepingRelics 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, but it's a reassuring price as it does look very high quality.

  • @housemachine509
    @housemachine509 5 років тому +1

    Hmm I want to see baseck play with this

  • @thr33falcon
    @thr33falcon 3 роки тому

    Hey man, get those affiliate links up, I'm buying one of these right now based partially on your video and I'd totally use a link to hook you up.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  3 роки тому

      Thanks for the reminder! I'm slowly updating my older videos - added. For future reference, if you click on a link on any of my new videos and buy another product, it still works - but it's good to update the old ones too!

    • @thr33falcon
      @thr33falcon 3 роки тому

      @@loopop ok! Will note. Your videos are fantastic, I and I’m sure so many others appreciate them so much. Never buy anything before checking what your hands say first lolll

  • @kierenmoore3236
    @kierenmoore3236 6 років тому +10

    How much? Did you mention this ... ?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +7

      Kieren Moore no, because these things change over time - right now $1300 for SEQ and $400 for POLY

    • @kierenmoore3236
      @kierenmoore3236 6 років тому +3

      Thanks. :)
      Yeah, my Crystal Ball is in for repairs, too ... ;)

    • @juschu85
      @juschu85 6 років тому +1

      It still makes sense to tell the price. It's a little bit confusing when you mention the high price several times without ever telling the actual price.
      You could say something like "Right now the SEQ costs $1300." Most people should be smart enough to know that if they watch this video in 8 years the device is probably cheaper.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +2

      Joe Jupiter I just saw your comment and checked their price and they dropped it to $1200. I almost never comment on the price of a piece of gear and here is did because it was a lot in my view. I’m not saying $1200 is now dirt cheap either, but if you look at the overwhelming feedback regarding its price here and elsewhere, and that the company is reading these comments, hopefully some time sooner rather than later they will find a way to manufacture this in an even more cost efficient way

    • @juschu85
      @juschu85 6 років тому

      I don't think they only will try to make it cheaper if people will tell them to make it cheaper. It's in the interest of a company to make its products as cheap as possible as long as it's not to cheap to make a profit. The cheaper it is the more people can buy it.
      And the important thing in telling your viewers the price is not telling them the exact price. The important thing is to know the price range and $1200 is still in the same price range. It's very unlikely that a product will go from $1300 to something like $600 in a short time.
      Nobody would blame you for telling the "wrong" price if you would have mentioned the price of $1300 and the it later changed to $1200. Someone who is smart enough to use this equipment is smart enough to know those prices can change.
      And just look at all the other UA-camrs that talk about (tech) products. They all tell the price of what they're talking about. If that actually would be a problem at some point there already would be a big discussion.

  • @thomk7678
    @thomk7678 3 роки тому +1

    When I find a piece of hardware without a Loopop review, I get upset.

  • @thedrumunkey8582
    @thedrumunkey8582 6 років тому +1

    Something I don't understand is if there's a "Drum mode" or similar that would allow multiple drums to fire, at the same time, on one track... From the vids and manaul, it looks like if you wanted a kick, snare, and OH to fire at same time, you'd have to actually eat 3 of the 8 tracks...

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +2

      The answer is yes and no. Each step can contain one note, or a preconfigured chord. So, you could program one step to be a kick, and then a hi hat and then a snare, all on the same track, or look for chords that hit simultaneously all the drums you need, but that's a workaround, plus then you wouldn't have access to the track functions on a per drum basis (say, randomize just the hi hats). Ideally they'd just let you "zoom" a track into a sub-piano roll. I asked them about that, it's not in the near term plan.

    • @thedrumunkey8582
      @thedrumunkey8582 6 років тому +1

      Thx for the response!... Yea, I was hoping there was a zoom like on the Deluge I just hadn't seen demo'd or doc'd... Another great post/vid! You're turning into a machine! :)

    • @starwars007oele
      @starwars007oele 6 років тому +2

      The Drümünkey Haaaaa at last a guy that knows how it should work! I have a Synthstrom deluge and a Engine the both have drummode. I love the look en 32 step grid of the Polyend, but fore that price you can get much more features else were. I thing a normal price for this maschine would be € 799. And than with at least a drummode. Greez👍✌️

  • @MySynthDungeon
    @MySynthDungeon 6 років тому +2

    Excellent !! Cheers!!

  • @andreasgiobel6355
    @andreasgiobel6355 6 років тому

    Whats in the far left Corner of the setup? and did i hear Zelda 7.55>?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому

      Andreas Giöbel do you mean the Novation Circuit of the top left?

  • @xpump876
    @xpump876 2 роки тому

    I guess the price on this SEQ did'nt get it into the mainstream market - was exciting when it arrived

  • @thanksforsocializing5912
    @thanksforsocializing5912 6 років тому

    I feel like i need one now!!

    • @dramadestroyer825
      @dramadestroyer825 4 роки тому

      Thanks for Socializing, you might need a bit of money.

  • @tomvivian
    @tomvivian 6 років тому

    How good is it for handling triplets?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому

      For different note steps there's nothing built in - however, you can set a pattern to be any length, so you could just decide to count in threes instead of four. If you want a same note triplet, you've got rolls/ratchet - so it's easy to add a 1/3 ratchet.

  • @Rollur1234
    @Rollur1234 Рік тому

    Do you still own this sequencer?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  Рік тому

      no it was a loaner

    • @Rollur1234
      @Rollur1234 Рік тому

      @@loopop i couldnt get the digitakt to sequence a korg monologue forever. This one did it itself in a few minutes. This is a marvel to me.

    • @Rollur1234
      @Rollur1234 Рік тому

      No wait. Play not Poly Seq

  • @strangemobius
    @strangemobius 6 років тому +1

    I'm interested to compare this with Monome Grid + Ansible

  • @cloudrun654
    @cloudrun654 4 роки тому

    Pretty neat. Wish the Launch pad Pro could sequence in standalone.

    • @tobimm2
      @tobimm2 4 роки тому +1

      It does now.

    • @cloudrun654
      @cloudrun654 4 роки тому

      @@tobimm2 That is interesting. Can you tell me more? I don't see where it can.. but IDK

    • @cloudrun654
      @cloudrun654 4 роки тому

      @@tobimm2 Okay, now I see It on Novation's website. COOL! Thanks!

  • @hermansimms8410
    @hermansimms8410 5 років тому +1

    I'm buying a pyrimid sequencer

  • @nalaeel219
    @nalaeel219 4 роки тому

    I sold a dfam about 5 months ago and im a bit heart broken that i did. I kinda cool.
    Really like the poly seq

    • @hjhkjhre454554
      @hjhkjhre454554 4 роки тому +1

      Don't worry, just sold mine too, fking unfathomable

  • @mraymond77
    @mraymond77 6 років тому +1

    Can you please play a seventh chord?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +2

      Michael Raymond actually if I added another oscillator, sure

    • @jc3drums916
      @jc3drums916 4 роки тому +1

      @@loopop You could omit the 5th as well.

  • @kspsd
    @kspsd 6 років тому +2

    Hmm, you lost me at "The current pattern is blinking...." They are all white, and they are ALL blinking. Maybe a different color when blinking ?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +1

      kspsd only one of the lights was blinking ... but yes if you think all of them are blinking this isn’t for you... I don’t make this box but pretty sure the lights only support one color and different levels of brightness

  • @crab-dogjones4659
    @crab-dogjones4659 6 років тому +1

    Good review.

  • @macmanplus
    @macmanplus 2 роки тому

    It would be nice if they had any to sell!

  • @starwars007oele
    @starwars007oele 6 років тому +5

    It looked very promissing (32 steps and build quality), but the rely need to update the features! Especially the number of tracks or not to be able to chance a track to a drumtrack (now if you have for example 8 drumsounds you are finished). For this price I expected something more! Synthstrom deluge rules! If it was as good as the videomaker than it would have been fantastic! Greetz👍✌️

    • @Polyend
      @Polyend 6 років тому +10

      Hi, you can lay at least 32 different drum sounds over one Seq track, and more than one per step with the predefined chord function. It's sometimes good to check the facts, the way you're using Seq is just your personal approach and preference.

  • @ebiii5686
    @ebiii5686 5 років тому +4

    One sequencer to rule them all - Sequentix Cirklon

    • @ebiii5686
      @ebiii5686 5 років тому +3

      "One sequencer to rule them all - Sequentix Cirklon" unfortunately, but without sorrow, I must recant my original declaration.
      Who rules?
      SQUARP PYRAMID RULES!!!!!!!!!!
      (u best beleeeee dat)

  • @shadowhenge7118
    @shadowhenge7118 4 роки тому

    So you're kinda limited in tracks with this. If you have 8 drum sounds to sequence youre sol to add anything else. Surprised they didn't just make it 16 tracks so it can sequence a drum machine plus other synths.

  • @danielprovder
    @danielprovder 6 років тому

    Have you checked out Hermod by Squarp Instruments? I'd love to see you do a review

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому +1

      Thanks - will have a look - I've not tried it

  • @nathanbryers
    @nathanbryers 3 роки тому

    Cute!

  • @jakescustomshop
    @jakescustomshop 9 місяців тому

    Thumbs up just for the 2001: A Space Odyssey

  • @starwars007oele
    @starwars007oele 6 років тому +1

    All sequencers have drumtrackmode and synttrackmode (syntstrom, engine,...etc.). Playing drums on a synttrack is not tesame thing, I know you can pitch a step up or down to change the drumsound but that doesnt work so good. Manufacturers should test other sequencers more, then they can see how it suppose to work! For me 8 tracks is very limiting, if you want to do some sequencing of controlchange parameters as well, that all takes up tracks. A lot of hardware studios have a bunch of synths and we want to play them all togheter. Greetz 👍✌️

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому

      Hakuna Matata I agree with you - I prefer the flexibility in sequencers like Elektron or Deluge too - I actually asked the folks at Polyend about this and it’s an intentional choice to keep it simple. To a certain degree they have a point - the manuals for Deluge and Digitone are 60+ pages compared to 3... I guess it’s like the IPhone and Android comparison

    • @starwars007oele
      @starwars007oele 6 років тому

      loopop I wish them success, but i doubt if this choice is the right one. Mostly simple stuf is cheap. Altough some usermanuals are big....,if you want to keep it simple you mostly dont have to look at them, like with the Deluge. Love your video’s, you keep them simple and clear and helping the community a lot! Wish you lots of subbs, you deserve it! Greetz👍✌️

    • @loopop
      @loopop  6 років тому

      Hakuna Matata thanks very much - btw I’m not saying anyone should buy it, I just show what it does - and thanks again ;)

  • @otisobl
    @otisobl 6 років тому +1

    GI want this as an iPad app.

  • @ToyKeeper
    @ToyKeeper 6 років тому

    On the one hand, this is really cool. Outstanding job, Polyend. On the other hand, the Digitakt and Deluge exist. That's some steep competition.

  • @starwars007oele
    @starwars007oele 6 років тому +2

    Why does nobody....,even the guy from Polyend show that in there video’s! Thanx did not know that. 🤭🤔👍✌️

    • @Polyend
      @Polyend 6 років тому +2

      Read manuals, reviews, educate yourself.

    • @starwars007oele
      @starwars007oele 6 років тому +1

      Polyend I do..., thats why i am here! As a manufacturer, it’s not so difficult to make a decent video on how your gear works. We are not living in the 80ties. ✌️

    • @Polyend
      @Polyend 6 років тому +5

      Hakuna Matata there's a whole 11 parts video tutorial on our YT channel, and a lot of others showing Seq in action, there's a masterclass on askaudio...

    • @2112jonr
      @2112jonr 5 років тому +1

      Yep, the tutorials have been on the Polyend and AskMusic sites for ages. They're very comprehensive, though to be honest the Seq is so well thought out you really do not need a manual. It's very intuitive.

  • @jean-baptiste9230
    @jean-baptiste9230 6 років тому +1

    same colors?

  • @majorxbla9432
    @majorxbla9432 3 роки тому

    Would be cool to tell people the disadvantages of the device too

    • @loopop
      @loopop  3 роки тому

      It’s only a 10 minute video and the cons are indexed at 8:10

    • @majorxbla9432
      @majorxbla9432 3 роки тому

      @@loopop OK but, there is just a short comparison with the Elektron (just sequencer , no sound generation, no multi parameter changes). I don't know maybe a bought a Monday version of Polyend's Seq, but my devices have a lot of software glitches. It forgets to send note-off messages, when recording chords played with a Midi keyboard, which is really annoying because the synth plays the whole time on note. Also it is buggy when the additional midi controller and Polyends output is not the same channel. It is impossible to use it in a more complex setup, with another sequencer sending clock signal and notes (which are on another channel) because Polyend is continuously changing the root note of every track and you couldn't use the parameter knobs anymore. There are a lot of other problems people mentioned on UA-cam and forums in the net.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  3 роки тому

      I don’t do QA to test every scenario - pretty much everything I review has bugs I don’t find - sad to hear the company isn’t addressing them though. Have you emailed them?

  • @djraptorx
    @djraptorx 4 роки тому

    Lol is that Kelsey by Metro Station?

  • @user-vd3if4wq6m
    @user-vd3if4wq6m 5 років тому +2

    Your intro makes it sound like those other Synth+sequencers are the same as the Poli Sequencer there.... Thats not the case

    • @loopop
      @loopop  5 років тому +3

      You didn’t really watch the video, did you

  • @GB3770
    @GB3770 4 роки тому

    lol nice intro!

  • @joemcm1
    @joemcm1 4 роки тому

    looked interesting-2m31 into the video,lost me,too complicated

  • @setphaser
    @setphaser 6 років тому +1

    yeah, i really want this.... next tax return i think.

  • @NickHchaos
    @NickHchaos 6 років тому

    I wouldn't buy a SEQ, not much cheaper than a Cirklon and far less impressive. Very intrigued by the Poly though, paired with an MPE controller.