Samsung 990 Pro vs Samsung 980 Pro SSD Comparison - Worth upgrading?
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- Опубліковано 23 лип 2024
- Checking out the New SAMSUNG 990 Pro, how does it compare to 980 pro? :)
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0:00 Intro
0:26 Sponsored Segment
0:48 Understanding Samsung's Position
1:32 Specifications
2:02 Test Bench Specs
2:31 ATTO Benchmark Analysis
5:40 Black Magic Disk Speed Test
6:05 Crystal Disk Mark
7:20 TBW spec
8:55 Hardware Changes
9:26 Power Efficiency
10:12 Physical layout overview
10:28 Price
10:53 Is it worth it over 990 PRO?
11:59 Alternatives
12:20 Gamers or Creators?
13:09 Best Bang For Buck PC
I'm less interested in the raw transfer speed, and more interested in the increase in IOPS and how that translates to timeline perf. I liked your comparison between a HDD, SATA SSD, Gen3 and Gen4 drive to really show that latency difference. I'm curious if it would even be noticeable between the 980 Pro and 990 Pro, or any of the other high drives like the 530.
Treat this video like an advertisement. These aren't available yet so obviously Samsung have either sponsored the video or provided the drives with an embargo agreement that limits what you can do with it until X date. It's a 14 minute advert with 3 minutes of actual benchmarks and they just happen to be the most basic synthetic tests that show the biggest increase in speed, when real world tasks like loading up windows or games would show very little improvement.
Bro how can I put this in my Optiplex 9020??? 😉
@@bigpoppa1234 I would have called it more of an overview than an advertisement. I think he's pretty objective in his testing and his conclusions, and you make it sound like he's shilling, to some degree, for Samsung. Besides, I know how this works... I've received review samples. I also know that people really won't see the diff between the two in general usage, which isn't what I was asking about. He did some interesting real world testing between different storage tech in the timeline, which is what I'd be interested in seeing.
@@hasanraza4980 LOL! Seriously tho, as a secondary drive... just toss it in a PCIe to m.2 adapter, and BAM! As a boot drive, you'll need some sort of boot loader... and it's honestly not worth it. Probably won't see much diff between it and a good SATA drive.
@@TheGameBench Yes of course... I'm very very happy with my SATA SSD in my Optiplex 9020. Btw it was nice hearing from you. I never upgraded my Optiplex and running it with iGpu but watched your every optiplex video start to finish. Really enjoyed your content❤️
Thank you much! wonderful and perfect review and explanation. rare to find.
Crucial for all general use PCs and thanks to you I’ll be going with your recommended drives on my creator
Hello, do you know if when it comes to 4k+ video recording and editing you rely more on writing, reading or both ? Also between the 990 Pro, Kingston Fury Renegade and Seagate Firecuda 530 which you will recommend for these type of tasks ?
So far i used 980 Pro for both gaming and video recording and im in the market for another NVME which i plan to use for production only.
see my setup above. It is Nirvana.
@@donross7820 ?
hello!
kc3000 is on discount on amazon, is this (Samsung 990 pro) better to buy than the 2GB cache on the KC3000? thanks!
@technotice im making a creating pc should i use the wb_black sn850x like your creator pc has, or 2 990 pros, which would be better overall
Samsung is like nvidia of the world. Great product at a ridiculous price.
what would you recommend for a fast nvme with a reasonable price
@@MohamedMrh corsair, seagate firecuda and many more
Except NVidia does not make great products.
@@lagarttemido they do,fastest gpu in the market,but shite policy and treat everyone like garbage
@@MohamedMrh WD Sn770, Crucial P5 Plus, Adata XPG.
As tempting as it is to get the 990 Pro, I think I will get a 980 Pro for my new PC build and wait for the new PCIE 5.0 SSDs that will probably come out next year. I've seen reports of possibly up to 15 GB/sec performance on the upcoming PCIE 5.0 SSDs.
i am wait when come 9 gen i thing about 2029 still wait
Only a few drives now have over 7K read. Hitting 15GB/sec won't happen until late 2024+
As someone that has a 980 Pro and a 990 Pro, there's a world of difference between the two.
@@jamesm568 You have a strange definition of "world of difference". It's a generational improvement at best.
'Headline' read/write speeds mean NOTHING if anyone tries to use this as an OS drive - those 4k low queue depths are STILL shocking !!
A question more about Ramm in general.. If you put Ramm in a computer that's "over specc'd coz it's all you can get or it's sold at a good price, will it not work?, work at rated speed? or cause problems? For example -Saw some DDR4 3600Mhz Ramm sticks the other day and my computer says use 3200Mhz
Hello sir, i have a question. I want to upgrade to 1tb ssd but but my laptops manual said i can only add up to 500gb ssd. Can 1tb ssd be read? have you tried it?
Great video! I was really interested to see that my two 2TB 970 EVO plus in raid0 performs identically to the 990pro. Good to see that i won't have to worry about an upgrade for awhile. Great review, and thanks for the detailed information!
But two 990 pros...
What's up with some claiming that RAID 0 doesn't work properly with NVMe? Like having atrocious speeds, slower than HDD
Hello Now I have encountered a problem: 970pro, 980pro or even 990pro which is more suitable for PCIE4.0 as a separate system disk? 990pro may be faster, but 970pro is too stable🤔
Which one shall I buy ? Samsung 990 pro or Kingston Fury Renegade for my Lenovo LOQ Rtx 4060 and Ryzen 7840HS variant.
Witch is the most reliable Samsung or Seagate fire cuda 530?
Great review! 👍
To be honest, I've rarely seen something like this before, it includes some really nice details and information.
Would like to see more Reviews like this, not just "this is great, buy it" crap😉
The power usage is actually interesting for users putting this into a laptop. Power usage really matters on SSDs in laptops as it can adversely affect battery life.
true , that has been a concern for me , to the point i had to remove my samsung nvme , because it was making a really hot spot on the botom side where the SSD is .
and i think i lost 15 to 30% runtime on battery
i had to go back to the "shitty" nvme provided with the laptop , wich i dont even feel the warm thru the chassis
@@tfoutfou21000 yep, I went with a SK Hynix P31 and actually increased the battery life of my laptop!
Many WD drives (like the blue and green) are good on battery life, but the performance isn't great. Right now the most efficient drive I know of is the one I mentioned above. I just bought a P41 for my workstation and a P31 for my new laptop since the P41 is "more efficient" in terms of work per watt but uses more power while active VS the P31.
@@Jimster481 did you make some research to find to more efficient SSD ?
@@tfoutfou21000 I didn't find one better than the P31 at the moment
hello can you leave more info about the power usage ?
i want to get the 980 pro for my OS drive on PCIE 3.0 (seeing it performs better than 970 evo plus, has lower idle power and lower temps) . I can't resource a p31 gold tho..
Disappointed! I purchased a Samsung 990 Pro 1TB and attached it externally (using a NVME Enclosure and usb cable) so that I could begin the migration process. The Samsung magician migration software did not see the 990, and when I went to device manager and disk manager, this device only shows up as "JMicron Generic SCSI Disk Device." Unable to initialize due to this option not being presented.
Hooked the 990 up via the same NVME enclosure (2280) to another computer of mine, and the result was the same. Puzzling, because I did not have a problem with migrating and installing the 970 Pro using the same process and the exact same NVME enclousure; it even showed up as "Samsung 970 Pro", rather than as a Generic SCSI disk device.
Anyone here have a solution or advice?
I've just gotten my 980 Pro delivered, just typical.
I felt this more than the ending of Game of thrones
Don't be disappointed, look at the random 4k performance, they are the same, all the others numbers are for who don't understand nothing about pc
Depending what you're doing, you may not notice any practical difference. The super high performance is only going to ever be reached on HEDT or workstation platforms with the available IO lanes, and applications that will use the IOPS and bandwidth. That's where you'll really see them fly. For loading up COD maps or playing Minecraft, it's overkill on an extreme level.
Again great content.
Small question but in Premiere pro, I'm getting really frustrated by the time of access when I open a folder. Sometimes it can takes 10 seconds to preview all the files. I have a Kingston SSD NVME A2000 (around 1Gb/second in writing.
If I upgrade the SSD, will it improve ?
Thanks by advance ! :)
I assume your files are located in there..., I've also found that RAM can be the bottleneck, have a look at your RAM usage when opening the files coz often PP puts the files on RAM first when loading the project. When I'm opening my usual project I can easily see the RAM shoot up to 64GB used and being capped by my 64GB... just my experience. :)
@@theTechNotice someone is scamming in the chat using your name please do something
I don’t see the 4tb 990 anywhere are we sure it is available on that size?
Could you add an audio editing/DAW software testbench? Thank you!
I bought the Firecuda 4TB. Definitely happy about it.
Sweet. Looks like I’ll be grabbing 980 pro at that discount.
I'm going to build my first pc in about 4 month and I'm confused which m.2 should i get 990 pro or 980 pro?
Well this settles it. I’ve watched so many of your videos now I can’t believe it took me this long to pull the trigger. Liked and subbed. I look forward to more great content as I dive into the world of content creation. God bless!
Forget speeds I want more storage , we have been stuck on small m2 sizes since interception of gen 2 gens it’s about time we start seeing hd size replacements that are cost effective
sabrent 8tb sell your kidney
@@raulitrump460 i said cost effective most HD are a lot bigger now days as well
Is there really even a point to giant sized m.2? I feel like those should be used for things that are for that computer. Stuff you’d never need to be mobile. Other hand you can just pull out a 8tb solid state and take it to another country and boom. All your files are fine.
@@ToastyClam I want an 8TB nvme. Pro cameras are going up in megapixels and that means bigger RAW files. Sending a days worth of photos over to look at takes buffering for the computer to create thumbnails. I have some HDD drives that are 80MBs read speed so it takes a while to look up photos every time you open the folders. SSD is faster, but not the instant nvme does when you move the files over to it. It takes just a few minutes of transfer like 300MBs to the nvme and much quicker to edit from the nvme.
@@heezdeadjim if you do really big long size file moves in the 100s of GBs look at getting the 970 pro drives. they were samsungs last drives that don't use a cache and isntead the full drive runs at the rated speeds. If you just move 100gb or so here and there faster drives will benfit if you have pcie 4.0 m.2 slots.
hey, man! so, i have a fury renegade (1tb), and a 970 evo (2tb). a friend of mine is selling me a 4tb firecuda 530 for $323 (brand new). is it worth the buy? i do a lot of 3d modelling and rendering, by the way. TIA!!
I ordered a 1TB 980 Pro a couple of days ago on sale. It should arrive tomorrow. I’m sure in real world performance it won’t even be a noticeable difference. Maybe half a second difference in load times for big games. I was hoping you would test some real world performance in this video rather than just focusing on benchmarks.
Hi, you're amazon links don't actually show any 990 pro drives.
What was the tamp When testing,its can run really hot and low down
Why didn't you test for a linear recording of the entire volume? It is in aida64, there will be a graph with a change in speed as it fills up. Very visual
One of the big plus factors of the Samsung drives is their minimal failure rate, which can't be said for most other ssd manufacturers. But the 980 Pro was already borderline perfect, so whatever the 990 Pro may improve, is going to be more or less insignificant. I would rather have the reliability of the Samsung drive, than the greater read/write longevity of something like the FireCuda drive. The FireCuda only really seems tempting if you're someone who regularly installs/destalls games and content and produce a lot of video content as well, like streaming, where you may collect lots of clips on a shorter basis - but for long-term critical data like professional work for clients etc, Samsung all the way.
Hey man just had a question for you. I’m going for a build with super high end specs eg a 4090 and i9 13900K in your honest opinion is the 990 pro SSD super noticeably better then the 980 pro or is it just slightly better. Cause I’ve seen the prices for both of them and the 990 pro is a lot more compared to the 980 pro and I’m just trying to save money. Overall in your opinion is the 990 pro significantly better then the 980 bro or is the 980 pro a good option to go with. Sorry for rambling on man if you were to respond words could not express my gratitude 🙏🏼
@@shoto_9 Hey there! And I would say no, there is definitely not a very noticeable difference. Definitely not anything worth spending extra for unless you absolutely need the increase in speed for very specific professional work. Most people barely saturate a gen 3 nvme, let alone a standard gen 4 drive - and the 980 Pro is still in the high end. Samsung drives also tend to be greatly upmarked in price when they launch and usually are worth buying +1 year post launch, and this is why the 980 Pro is now significantly cheaper than it used to be.
So my suggestion is, if you want to make your build now, definitely go for the 980 Pro. You will save a lot of money, and 99% of cases you will not notice ANY performance difference. The 990 Pro only really exists so that Samsung by technicality can say they have the fastest drive - but only by a miniscule margin. No reason to pay 50% more for 1-5% more real world performance.
I would only suggest the 990 Pro if you do a lot of video editing and very heavy file handling on a daily basis. Tons of 8K stuff etc. But if you don't have this need, then there's no reason to get it over the 980.
@@Real_MisterSir perfect man thank you very much for such an in depth answer. I just had one more question for you man. I’m not quite sure if you know this motherboard but I wanted to get the “MSI MPG Z790 Edge Wi-Fi DDR5
Motherboard” in your honest opinion man is this a really strong motherboard to have, especially with specs like the i9 13900K and the 4090. I’ve just been a little concerned cause a lot of people are saying it has pretty bad bios. Is that anything to worry about. Sorry for rambling on man and thanks so much for your answers :)
@@shoto_9 I don't have much experience with modern MSI boards so I can't really tell, but from a bit of research it seems to be a decent z790 board. I mean, I am personally running the 13900K on a B660 board from Asus so I don't think the hardware compatibility will be an issue :D
In terms of BIOS, Asus is a brand I certainly can recommend. Imo they have one of the best BIOS setups with some built-in features that not all manufacturers provide (for example I can still overclock my 13900K even though it's not a Z-class board and technically shouldn't be allowed, but Asus doesn't care what Intel says haha).
Either way, I don't think you will have any more risk with the Z790 Edge from MSI compared to any other board in its price range. I did see some people talk about potential audio issues with the ALC4080 Codec that the Edge's soundcard uses, but many of the modern Z690 and Z790 boards use this soundcard so even if there would be occasional issues with audio, it could probably be fixed with driver updates.
If you fancy the MSI Edge board, and it has all the features you need, then I wouldn't hold back on it. If you want to do any sort of major overclocking then maybe look for a higher end board or an Asus variant for their good BIOS features, but it's really not a requirement. The Edge should do absolutely fine. Again though, in terms of specific BIOS issues I do not have any experience with this board so I can't in good confidence give advice here - but personally I couldn't find many people who were troubled by the BIOS.
@@Real_MisterSir gottya man I fully understand you. Thanks so much for such an in depth answer man much love bro🙏🏼
Plz tell me which one best firecuda 530 ya S 990pro ??
Hi Tech Notice. May I ask you please, how come you have such a great transfer speeds? I have max like 3,6GB/s. Is it because you dont use the 990 Pro as a system drive? You have aprox. 7GB/s and I have only half the speed in the same tests. I have i9 9900K/32GB ram, 990 Pro, which I have as system disc C:
thank you for answer
Your 9900k only supports PCIe gen 3 max, but you'd need a CPU+Mobo that would support PCIe Gen 4 :)
I have no idea if I can expect the 990 to perform faster than my 980 on my x570 with 5950x and 64gb ram at 3466mhz. If I have a 1tb 980 and I want a 2tb 990, can I expect an improvement, realistically, or does none of that matter?
I only have a old i7-12700k @ 5.2 P cores and 4.2 e cores, 4.6 ring ratio with a z670, 64gb 6000 DDR5 CL34 and a 980 Pro 2tb and a 970 tb evo pro. Would I need to upgrade to a i9-13900k and get a z790 to make writing files noticeably faster?
lol thats barely old at all. im on a 7700k and it still works fine
Thank you for testing 990pro ✌. Sorry but the music is disturbing at the background. 😔
If we just write 100 Gigabyte per day, is it supposed to last or will last 15 years then?
Are they still screwing us on the warranty?
I always watch your videos, they help me understand everything in Russian translation, I want to learn to read English, but there is no motivation, but you have a great technical level
Can anyone give me some advice? I have a Lenovo Thinkpad T580 laptop. I bought myself a Samsung 990 pro. I can install it to my T580 help
whats the speed cap on gen4 nvme?
Io ho una i5 di decima generazione, andrà a sfruttare al meglio l'ssd?
did you just say that it was in the 3rd and 4th slot ?
i think that the test is not good then , because those slot are probably not gen4 x4
I just bought 970 Pro 1TB for same price as 980 Pro 1TB, manufactured november 2021, I thought they don't manufacture 970 Pro anymore.. I wanted higher endurance than 980 Pro and have only a 3.0 motherboard (x370 with ryzen 5800x). Also enabled 16% (152 GB) of over-provisioning for even more endurance, the C:\ partition shows 800 GB :)
970 Pro 1TB actually has 1024 GB, not 1000 GB like other 1TB SSDs or hard drives. So 970 Pro shows 953 GB on C:\ partition while other 1TB ssds show 931 GB. Same for 970 Pro 512 GB model, it has 12 GB more than 500 GB SSDs.
980 Pro 1TB has 1000 GB, so 24 GB less than 970 Pro 1TB.
The 970 PRO is one of the last SSDs to use an MLC controller, which is much more enduring than TLC or QLC, both of which are used in most performance or budget SSDs. The 970 PRO tend to be more expensive than the 980 PRO by a long shot, and I feel glad that you got an excellent bargain and are happy about it 😀
Big differences 970 pro doesn't have an slc cache (it's MLC based) , so all free space is like a slc cache speed wise, so if you have 500gb of free space you can write at 500gb at full advertised write speed for that whole time at full speed (little slower after)
where as the 980/990 Pro has a relatively small slc cache size before they drop to TLC write speeds and incress in latency
which was not stated in this video, 990 Pro is around 220gb when drive is empty and reduces as the drive gets filled up with 10gb always available when drive space mostly used up, write speed drops to 1.4GB/s once the slc cache has ran out and is in TLC direct write mode, but you would have to be writing constantly to find this noticeable
but again 970 pro has full write speed for whole drive write (something like 3000MB/s constantly)
@@leexgx Actually very helpful! Thinking of just getting 2TB of the 970 Evo
@@ProWrestlingPsychology101 They do work really well (as long as they are not used in a Synology as a ssd cache)
@@leexgx that used to be what the pro line got you was full speed for the full drive. But somewhere along the line samsung followed everyone else and went for slc cache and dram got got rid of the full drive using mlc. The drive endurance seems quite similar though at least on paper .
What are the top M.2 PCIe 4.0 x4 and SATA SSDs and HDDs you could recommand? Would be interessting to know. (for Gamers once and for Creators)
imo the WD sn770 is a pretty decent value as it's around $100 for 1 tb pretty consistently at least in the US. the silicon power US70 is priced similarly and rated for similar performance but it seems to be not that available.
considering there are gen 3 drives still going for around $100 for 1 tb, I'd consider the sn770 a pretty decent deal.
SN770 is a great drive for storing your games, but not for a boot drive considering it doesn't have dram. Go with the SN850 for the boot drive, if you go with WD. Both of these are gen4
@@RealHellaciousGaming How good is the Kingston KC3000 and Kingston Fury Renegade?
@@karmobuddy I would recommend the Fury Renegade, faster speeds
@@RealHellaciousGaming I asked if they are good compared to other M.2's for a Project Drive as example. Since it would probably good to have a 4 TB Storage for that.
Also what would be the best Internal HDD and Internal SATA SSD for a Archive Drive?
Anyone know when the new M.2 NVME SSD 4TB model is being released?
SAMSUNG 990 PRO SSD 4TB
More important about the controller efficiency is not the electricity bill but the heat
Every watt used in semiconductors is converted to waste heat, reduce 50% wattage means 50% cooler SSD
My question is whether or not you got XMP working on that beast behind you.
Surprised when they announced it was a PCIe Gen 4 drive. Guess I'll wait for the 1090 Pro then.
SSD Samsung 990 Pro M.2 4TB for 410€ or Western Digital Black SN850X M.2 4TB for 330€?
Can we get a 990 pro vs sk hynix platinum comparison video?
Are these SSDs can be used in laptops? Cause that 990 has a small copper on the backside
yeah, no problem. :)
@@theTechNotice so that's single-sided huh.. thanks!
Why donot they add more pins on the back side of the M.2 memories, so is like 2 of them connected rather than one.
Someone can please explain me what is the heatsink? Some people are telling that I need to be careful with the heatsink of the 990 Pro. I don't know if I can use in a GP63 Leopard 8RF MSI. Thanks guys
As long as you have any type of heatsink on this SSD, it will be fine. As long as your laptop has a cooling solution atached to the m.2 slot, it will also be fine.
8:39 sometimes we use SSDs as ram in our exploration software simulations and mapping tools
Where are the 6, 8, 10TB ssds? I want to buy a few
Compare it to the Lexar please. I'm wondering how a dram-less drive would compare to the best dram drive.
980 2 tb at 200$ and 1tb 990 at 200$ in sale , is it worth to buy the 990 instead of 980 ?
I would like to see 100gb file copy between drives in Windows. And then the speed in RAID. I have two RAID 0. Both with 256 m2 pcie ssd. Seq. R/W ~980mb/s, real transfer speed between raids is around 350mb/s. Why the most important test missing???
Has anyone had luck with the websites offering the cheap Windows keys like he mentions in this video?
Can we use this into lenovo legion 5 pro ????
It takes less power sure but how do thermals compare?
I thought these weren't going to be out till Nov.?
Another amazing SSD is the Crucial P5 Plus. They use the Micron 3D Nand Technology.
I have two 2TB Samsung 980 Pros and an 870 Evo on a Gigabyte Auros Xtreme X570 motherboard (very high end mobo). Transferring from the 870 Evo went at around 480MB/s. This is performance In the same ballpark for the 870 Evo's spec of 530MB/s. When I transfer the same 17GB file from one of 980 pros to the other, it went at 2.5GB/s, half of the advertised write speed. The fastest USB3 spec is 20Gbps which is roughly 2.5GB/s - assuming you can find a decent cable and portable drive that even supports those those. My motherboard has heatplates for all of my m2 drives, so cooling isn't an issue, and I've benchmarked my drives with Samsung Magician and they score pretty much where they should be as they are fairly new (April 2021 purchase).
There is one use case I can think of where reading over 10GB+ of data as fast as possible makes sense: game loading. That much data needs to originate from a drive, and today, typically decompress into much faster memory: RAM and VRAM(video memory). And I should mention, it actually ends up not mattering in gaming anyways because that decompression step sort of ruins the capacity to do a straight read into memory so unless you're talking a massive class different in drive speed (HDD -> SDD) you're mostly not going to see a difference in game load time once you have an SSD of any kind. Any other application such as transferring from drive to drive, network to drive, drive to network will be going over a much slower link (or a shared bus), or you will have a slow read/write node on the other end (portable SSD, thumb drive). Essentially, you'll never see close to advertised speed even in situations you think are pretty ripe for it. For those that may be confused and thinking video editing benefits from faster read/write speeds: hardly. A video editor doesn't load anywhere near the entire file's data when you open it up, nor does it ever need to at one time.
These NVMe drives are getting too fast to be relevant unless you have a sweeping upgrade for your motherboards internals and are transferring from internal drive to internal drive. That is PCIe 5.0 and USB gen4. Without having all of those, you should sit tight with PCIe3/4 stuff. With PCIe4, simply having two drives. Maybe DirectStorage will change the game though allowing those insane sequential read speeds to
I feel like it's great that we are able to have a product that is so good that we shouldn't get it
DirectStorage in Forspoken really useful for blazingly fast game loading time
In my recent Editing build, I have a 500g 980 Pro as my only SSD thinking I'd be find for a good while, but boy do I run out of space fast. I have to keep moving footage back and forward between my pc and external hard drive. I'm thinking going for the 990 Pro 1 TB as a secondary drive, but would it be worth it or just go for the same 980 Pro with higher storage? I feel like it would defeat the purpose if my main OS drive isn't the faster of the 2.
Why not just get a 2tb call it a day
@@JustxLiving909 I could and that honestly is the better option. Just gotta build up the funds. But yeah, 2tb would be so sweet.
It has a 4TB version?
II value reliability over speed, it's a shame that Samsung abandoned MLC (2-layers cells) for TLC (3-layer cells) in their PRO line since the 980, to do as everybody else.
agree
yep and their 980 pro has had some reports of early bad block failures
the arctic cooler aio behind you isn't installed correctly
Hmm...ok. The slot used is important and can vary wildly based on MB. The random speeds are insanely important, the sequential a lot less, if you do anything like play a game. If all you do is transfer files back and forth...then sequential is for you.
when arrived in shop 990 pro ?
Wait, the 990 Pro is not Gen5 PCIE?
All i want to know is:
- Can you place a Gen4 NvMe (990 pro) on a Gen3 port and what would the speed cap be?
- should you peel the Samsung black label or does it interfere with the thermals?
it would be around half .. around 3500 . the sticker is metal . I wouldn't peel it off
Why would you do that? There's way better options for much cheaper lol
@@SamLoki never said i would please don’t assume haha - just making sure i know stuff here so i can know how to move. God bless
@@Manguadesignz It would be a 'wonderful thing' if an nvme gen4 ssd in a gen3 system achieves......gen4 speeds ;)
if your stuck on 3.0 and can some how find a 970 pro its basicaly the best drive you can get. But there are alot of other killer deals for nvme 3.0 drives where you can get 2tb for around 100 usd
how come ssd prices never go down? the older models i mean like the 970 evo plus
The 970 Pro has better endurance (it's a 2-bit MLC unlike the 980 and 990 Pro). The production price for a 2-bit MLC SSD is obviously higher than a 3- or 4-bit MLC, memories that allow a higher information density.
Does it beat the firecuda
I already run two 980 pros on my desktop, I am always tempted by new tech. But not too far away is pcie5 M.2, so I will pass. Nice insight though to the drive
I´ve updated a very old HP NVME SSD to a P31 expecting a huge difference and there was none. After a certain point there is no difference for regular desktop use.
Yeah, I've noticed that too...maybe we'll see improvement in transfer speeds when we have to transfer files to a similar nvme drive with no bottlenecks???
excellent video. Can you do a PCIE 5 with DDR 5 bang for the buck workstation video specifically designed for 3-D artists?
The bulk of my work is still CPU rendering, but I do tinker with GPU for in-house visualization
That’s a gigantic request 💀
Does not matter the price, where can I buy one?
Will this help me insta lock faster in valorant?
Name of the background smooth jazz?
What's next 1000 pro?
Hello! Thanks for vids 👌
I search best one for ps5 : 2t for +-200$. This one is the best or ...
Thanks you for advice 😎
And now how does it perform on a system that isn't screwed for lane count? Unless you're running Xeon or Threadripper, none of this really matters because "normal" processors are pitifully lane-choked, even at the high end.
I upgraded from 970 Pro's to 980 Pro's about a month after I upgraded the rest of my system. While Atto shows the speed difference between Gen 3 and Gen 4, which is considerably bigger than the difference between the 980 and 990, I really could not tell a difference in using the system for video editing and gaming. I doubt anyone will tell the difference between the 980 and 990, and I myself will not be upgrading.
Yeah i will just wait for the price of the 980 to drop and grab a 4tb one and finally do any with my mechanical drives completely.
@@thestoneddog is there a 4 TB version?
DON'T buy into those 'headline' read/write figures - almost(!) every purchaser of 'fast' nvme drives never take account of that 'weakest read/write link' in the chain rule. As a result, their speeds never, ever even get close to marketing.
@Scott Grammer i definitely saw the 4tb before. It was about 380 on Amazon before,but now i can't find it anywhere.
@@thestoneddog Thanks.
I think that most people want to see real world performance comparisons like launching an app or game, loading windows, etc. more so than synthetic benchmarks that don't really relate well to actual everyday usage difference. Synthetic benchmarks, though interesting, don't really seem to tell me if an SSD will save me how many seconds or negligible real world difference.
The only real world benefit is for high speed intranet/file transfers. And even then it's not that big of a benefit and you require pretty beefy infrastructure (starting with a 10gbe network). These improvements on the 990 (that aren't even in every element, eg the read speeds are identical) is 30%, which isn't nothing but they're already at massive high speed to start with. I'd get one to run my OS or I wanted to buy a new drive (assuming the prices aren't outrageous) but 99.999% of people would never even notice the difference between one of these and a 980, and in most tasks you'd never notice between a Sata drive.
@@bigpoppa1234 I do believe stuff loads faster. We just don’t know by how much. Is it 0.1s, 1s, a few seconds? I’ve seen a review of the SK Hynix p41 loading something that take other SSDs 12 seconds in 7 seconds. But the vast majority of reviews don’t bother informing the audience of the real world difference.
@@jackka82 In this case I suspect that Samsung have provided the drivers under a review embargo that limits the benchmarks to the three shown here. Would need to wait until the drivers are available in public to get actual useful information on real world applications.
@@bigpoppa1234 since 980Pro they do not provide any extra NVMe-drivers for their SSDs anymore, they just use standard Microsoft Windows ("stornvme") drivers as any other NVMe-drives out there (important for DirectStorage compatibility).
@@bigpoppa1234 i think its better to have fastest ssd because overtime when ssd is loaded with data it doesn't give the same performance as new. I dont feel my 6yr old sata 850 evo has same performance when new and TBW limit of 75 is at 74.2. Dont know if its going to get into read only or continue to work.
The majority of M2 SSD usage utilizes reading speed. Your PC installs (writes) the OS, a software, or a game only once, but it reads them every day. And judging from the test results, it is obvious that the reading speed of the 980 PRO is almost as par with the 990 PRO. So I will go with the cheaper 980 PRO until I see a new product with about double-speed improvement over the previous gen.
I want an 8 TB 980 PRO!
@@donross7820 Current technology cannot keep up with your needs :))
@@donross7820 I would be happy with 4TB lol
Will this be suitable for my ps5
What tower case do you suggest for the RTX 4090? Would it fit in the corsair 5000D?
I'm waiting now for a video with a tutorial of how to install pcie nvme ssd drive in PS4 like the author is suggesting at the end of this video. I'm sure he meant PS5 but still, if he kept it in the video then he must have found a way to do it :)
I bought a Kingston 2Tb 7000mbps. It works, I think 🤷🏻. Not sure lol. I don’t notice any big change
cool video and compare this two
I need eMLC/MLC NVME with a highspeed transfer. Not TLC like on 980/990 Pro line. They change MLC Nand to TLC Nand since 980 Pro, ☹️.
rip.
A good start up verification would of been nice with MSFS 2020.
Cut the music please.
KC3000 1tb be at SGD139.53 (Around 97 USD), its currently at the price of a gen 3 lol
This video above was posted on October 18, 2022.
In February 2023, people started suffering rapidly degrading Samsung 980 Pro and 990 Pro NvME SSDs.
It was not an isolated issue and Samsung released a firmware update, which was suppose to fix the degradation issue on their NvMe drives.
As of today, Sept 02, 2023, since the firmware fix was released, I have not read any further issues, but in contrast, there are no reports that the firmware fixed the issue either.
In addition, this is too early to tell, but time will tell us if the Samsung NvME drives were saved by the firmware fix or whether the future will face more drive issues because the firmware did not work well enough.
What was faulty at first, will most likely be faulty in the end as well.
That was the reason why I returned my 990 Pro to the store, because the risk was too high the drive would still fail.
Simply this, I am building a new computer and to install a potentially risky drive on the assumption the issue was fixed, was not good enough. I would rather not use the Samsung NvME drives and go with another reliable product.
As a result, I went and got WD_Black SN850X instead, it is comparable, just as good and is not suffering firmware issues.
Would be interesting to see the thermals.
I look forward to your review of the new PCIE Gen 5 SSDs now that both the new Intel and AMD boards are switching over to the new platform.
+1