Testing the Royal Enfield 411's durability on the green lanes! EP3
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- Опубліковано 24 січ 2024
- Hey Everyone,
In this video, I share my experience of green laning in Derbyshire with my partner Mike. We both rode a Royal Enfield Himalayan 411, a versatile bike that can handle any terrain.
I'm not a natural offroader as you know, but I wanted to challenge myself and see the beautiful scenery of Derbyshire.
Mike was my guide and he showed me some of the toughest green lanes in the area. It was a struggle, but also a lot of fun!
Watch the video to see how we did and what I learned along the way. Don't forget to like, comment, and subscribe for more videos like this!
I hope you enjoy this vlog!
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I think there are a few Well done's deserved here.... Well done for putting these videos out. You were obviously way out of your comfort zone. Well done on Mikes Patience .... Well done for keeping going, many people would have bailed. Well done to the Enfields. They look heavy but also solid. You earned a lot of respect for doing that 👍
Appreciate you!
I said it before I'll say it again your Mike is a giant.
Kate you guys do this on camera for all the world to see. For that aspect alone fu(king well done...
In the future if you keep persevering with Green Lanes, you will be on par with Mike . Manage the fear and the technique will follow.
Haha I wish, but it's nice to dream! 😊 glad you enjoyed it!!
@@UsernameKate it's the same as when you first started road riding. There was fear , but after practicing that fear became less . Now road riding for you is a doddle. Same applies to the Lanes
I love your determination. You didn't give up. You should be proud of your achievement. I think you did brilliantly on a heavy bike on which you weren't comfortable with the controls. Well done 😊
WOW, all champions here and no one understands that she is 162 cm tall!!! She cannot help herself using her legs properly, as someone taller than her could. It's really true that behind a keyboard everyone is a lion! Thanks for the video Kate, you're very brave!
One tip I'd have (and you might be doing this already and I'm just misreading the engine sound, if so, forgive me!) is to avoid using throttle / brake, as an on/off when you're feeling nervous. Try to focus primarily on clutch, raise your revs (as high as you like, with the clutch hovering at the bite point it won't matter), and feather the clutch to modulate your speed. This way, you won't actually come to a stop when you're reacting to changes in terrain etc (where all that weight will immediately want to go sideways unless you happen to have stopped in a perfect situation). It's very unnatural to leave the safety of the brake (you can have it primed as a bail-out) at first, but it'll accelerate you finding more confidence as the bike will behave a bit better in most situations. One thing I do as a first step reminder is to keep the revs up slightly higher than you'd think to have it, as that forces you to keep the clutch in the game. Also really helps avoiding any situation where the bike might stall, but to be fair the Himalayan is fairly forgiving with that, for better or worse. Worthwhile practicing this one in a controlled setting to reset any defaults you've built up from road riding, as this technique isn't really as necessary there. Great ride, you've covered a whole bunch of lanes I have yet to try and I live here!
Totally agree. What you describe makes the rotating engine parts, especially the crankcase, work as gyroscopic weights stabilizing the bike. I already advised Kate to train on a more forgiving stretch and try to get some sort of routine by repeating it.
@@marcbrasse747 ah nice, I mean there is a baptism of fire of doing it all on the real stuff of course and ultimately Kate did get through it all! But yeah, if you start to lose your confidence that way it just extends the whole learning process or maybe puts you off completely.
I think this is maybe the number 1 area of what makes learning off road on an adventure bike so hard. It's intimidating at no speed, it's not hugely confidence inspiring at low speed, and it just conspires to keep you in that zone where everything is hard (because you know dropping it is an absolute pain /a risk). As Kate said in the video, separating what you logically know you need to do and what your body actually does initially is super difficult. I'm still on the cusp of that zone a few years in!
7:21 Good advice nomading, but she's struggling with the clutch on that bike. I don't think the lever is adjustable on the Himmy and I suspect the clutch springs are relatively heavy. DCT Africa Twin instead? I jest.
Notwithstanding that, her skills have definitely improved over the 3 episodes.
@@m2menuiserie540 yeah that makes sense for sure, it does look like a long reach as well (I did ride a Himalayan in India for a trip but can't remember now!)
Re the "amusing" vans, a couple of jobs ago I had to deal with a company called Mycocks who sold electrical components, who's receptionist had spent all day, every day, for the past twenty years, answering the phone, "Hello, Mycocks electrical?" Oddly enough, she had absolutely no sense of humour left...
You did great Kate, much better than my few excursions off-road. All your long-ingrained road-riding instincts are wrong for off-road and you can't just reprogamme yourself in five minutes, however much you want to. I'm told that much the same applies to planes and helicopters: the longer you've been flying fixed-wing, the harder it is to convert to choppers.
Kate, I'm man enough to say that you've got balls the size of church bells, because stuff that for a game of soldiers for an "afternoon's fun"!. I can hear the nervousness and hyperventilating of fear of something that you're not used to doing. If you don't do any more of these "fun day outs", I wouldn't blame you. That's as much fun as learning to swim in the deep end. ❤
Well done Kate 👍
I’ve just watched part 2 & 3 together, I was knackered just watching you 😬
Mike makes it look so easy 🤷♀️
Great insight into how difficult it is for a beginner. Brilliant partnership between you two.
Thanks.
Loved these videos especially your honesty . I’m a 53yr old lady biker riding for 30 yrs .Got myself a Himalayan last Summer to improve my off road skills in preparation for dirt roads I’ll encounter on tours to Morocco/India this year( also on Himalayans). It is so relatable. Got myself into a few pickles but practice make perfect. Can I borrow Mike for some tuition please 😀
Well done Kate. You have just gained a whole lot of experience and survived.
Great set of videos. Thanks for sharing.your adventure.
Well done Kate for keeping going . Those green lanes look quite tricky. Great vlogs and fantastic effort by you and great coaching from Mike 🤙👍
Your full of confidence on the black stuff but not on the rough stuff. Leave that to Mike and you stay sunny side up on the tarmac. That rough stuff just doesn't look like fun to me at all, but I do admire your persistence.
Much the same meaning to that, which I have just written and posted. Anyway, a big fat 10/10 to her for trying!
Totally admire your determination. I ve had a himmy for 3 years and not tackled anything as tough. Keep at it. Your way braver than most of us . 👍
Just think, with all the experience you have now, it will be much easier next time! The bikes did well so thank for taking us along.
Hats off Kate. Keep up the great content.
Fair play to you Kate for carrying on well done - Awesome Job to both you and Mike 🙂
Great video. Some challenging green lanes there that look amazing and some great views. Enjoyed watching these latest videos. Keep up the great work, enjoy Unicorn lane :) 😂
loved these green laning vids. Hope you have caught the bug for it and do a lot more of this kind of riding. keep up the great work
You too are hilarious. Kate you are such an inspiration. Keep doing what your doing. Michael is so patient but he's so funny when frustrated. He get verbal nagging diarea lol love you both. Great videos 😂
Fantastic stuff Kate... and what an amazing playground! The RE Himy is a cracking trail bike, but still very heavy... I bet you wish you were on your old Beta Alp for most of the technical parts of this ride! 😀
Hey Hippo, been reading all your comments on this series with a smile! I feel like you get it 🤣 thanks for all the lovely words and in reply to your other comment, feel free to share it where you want 😊
@@UsernameKate I love trail riding, is so good seeing others giving it a go 😎👍
Keep it going Kate. You did really well. It'll get easier the more you do.
Well done, Kate. There were a few stalls and a few fall offs, but you did good. 👏👏👏👏
My wife and I were inspired by these videos to go and try a local green lane. Unfortunately she fell off within 100 yards and is now in hospital with broken ribs! Great job with your persistence Kate!
More great content Kate, Mike is a strong lad, he chucks the 200kg bike around like a little 125., that gives him a massive advantage over you.
But hats off kate, well done 👍👍👍👍
Mike is an absolute legend. If it were me I’d use Top Gear rules and leave you 😂
Some of those sections are hard especially on a 200kg bike and trying for first time, took some guts well done Kate.
Your a tryer that's for sure
Yeah that's not the right bike for her.
Bit of a baptism of fire for you there, but you saw it all through, it looked bloody hard work! well done! 👏
Fair enjoyed that kate and Mike. Can see you are improving from the other green lane video 💪🏻
Over the space of 5 hours 🤣
For a heavy bike with crappy suspension travel (for offroad), non adjustable levers too big for your reach, and road focussed tyres, you did really well. Do the same route with a Honda CRF 300 Rally and you'd be pulling wheelies up those hills !
Loved every second of that video, off roading is so much harder than tarmac and hats off to you for getting through it on such a heavy bike. Some of that terrain was better suited to an enduro style bike and I bet if you did the same trail on a KTM or similar lightweight, you would fly.❤
Well done Kate those lanes would have been fun on a dirt bike but still hardish. You have some guts and strong will, well done 😊😁 👍
You are far braver than I am. I have tried the off-roading. It's not for me. I admire your determination. Thanks for taking us all along with you.
Well done Kate, Mike was pretty good too !
Cracking effort Kate! Not easy that..👍
After watching parts 1 & 2 it looked like you were in agony at one point, but you carried on, by the way I loved Mike's singing 😅 keep on going and ride safe.
Well that was intense. I'm getting too old for that sort of trail on my Himalayan. A tumble may break me before the turn signal light! I have been on similar trails and the Himalayan does tractor on through. As others have said, it's hard not to admire your determination! A fine video and a great testament to the Himalayan!
Wauuu fantastic landscape and video 😊
As always Kate a really cool video Series! Just been binging youtube with dad :) after his biopsy.
Those lanes are tricky for sure an i think you did great, I did a few of them myself when i owned the 300 Rally an turned round on a couple of them. I think its good to show stuff like this which is what I tried to do as well as going from road an track riding, did me a hekkin confuse with the different skills and sensations on a trail bike.
I always think lighter is best for the trail riding stuffs some of our green lanes are almost single track in places. I think if i was to ever get really into it again id try get something around 130kg wet, watching Nathans Milwards ccm video was interesting to see how happy he was in it yet for my riding mix Ive just got a T7 for our Norway an Iceland trip :3 an hopefully it should be suited to the longer gravel roads an stuff out there in Europe.
Same weight as the Himmy, Japanese reliability an according to Yamaha the lowering kit gets it down to an 840mm seat height 20mm linkage an 20mm or so on the seat which should be good for my dad :)
I really thought RE missed an opportunity to give everyone a much lighter 411 or something as light as the 300 Rally or 390adv with the 450 launch.
Each bike all have different experiences an capabilities an i always find it super interesting to see others takes on bikes ive owned in the past keep up the brilliant vids Kate 👍😮
I bet you’ve learnt a lot editing your videos……. great watching you taking these off road 👍
Fantastic work. It’s really hard work to ride on those tracks. It takes some getting used to used to. ❤ great viewing.
I mentioned in a previous vid (when you were up near Rivi) its so much easier on a lighter bike. The Himalayan is a heavy bike at 191kg. I know you get what the dealer has given you but I think if you managed to get hold of a typical 250 enduro it would be so much better for you A ktm freeride for example weighs under half what a Himalayan does and has a relatively low seat height you’d find things so much more manageable. Great job sticking with it 👍
Awesome 3 videos just awesome.
Glad you like them!
Some effort there. Well done.
Getting out of your comfort zone is hard. I think you did well for a first go on a bike that your hands didn’t get along with.
Great job pressing through Kate. We’ve all been there. It seems that the clutch reach and exhaustion was real taxing for you, and it’s hard to stay on the gas and trust the process when you’re physically worn out and trying to navigate unfamiliar and challenging terrain at the same time. You can tell that wasn’t easy, especially with the weight of that bike, but you did well considering, and will be better going forward.
Kate next time you’re stuck and want to turnaround. Get off the bike and put the side stand down, tip the bike towards yourself 1 hand on handlebars other hand on side of seat, with both wheels off the ground, pivot the bike on the side stand to where you want to go. Was taught this by my friend.
That was tough to see you struggle, but you didn't quit [someone should really pave those roads]
Haha Thank-you!
Absolutely brilliant Kate 👍. Big time WELL DONE. However did you manage not to use any Anglo Saxon expletives? Lol.
Maybe I did, maybe they just don't make the cut 😉🤣
How easy was that lol 🤗 Good on you Kate. Well done
I usually prefer blacked out sport bikes but that green(?) 411 is beautiful! 👌
You remind me of me on those green lanes. I'm like bambi on ice . Hence my Tiger stays at home and I've bought a Serow 225 to play on. Hope you and Mike are OK and avoiding areas of discourse. 💕
Well done, i have to say you would have been much better off using the UCR around minninglow area etc as they are beginner/novice/heading to advanced novice and much much more enjoyable for someone like you, they would provide enough of a challenge but also raise confidence levels, they are wider, less rough, less scary terrain, no boulders, wet roots and so on - taking you down cumberland cottage at 15mins - 25 mins is a perfect example, just not beginner friendly. Tom has given Mike a good route for riders who are used to it - some of the lanes you have done are challenging and you got through them but the danger is you didn't enjoy this half as much as you could - the route should have been prepped for YOU rather than an off the cuff route that many of us use. If you ever want another crack of the whip on some lanes you would really enjoy in the area , let me know, i guide groups across the UK in and out of TRF all the time.
Watching this series of videos has reminded me of why off-road motorcycling wasn't for me. I'm glad I had a go at it, but in the end I wasn't having a good time. I think my problem is that when I am on two wheels, I like to be on paved roads carrying some good speed and being in the twisties. I think I would enjoy off-road more in a side-by-side, taking my time and enjoying the views without having to worry about keeping a bike upright.
It's not easy to put your "soft parts" on public display and I admire your ability to do so. It looked like there were some pretty gnarly sections there and I know the camera really tends to "flatten" things out so in the flesh that was proper off-roading. Nice job Kate!
Last time I went up the old coach road (the one where you had the first drops) I felt all proud of myself, came back down then went through the opposite lane that goes through the golf course.... only to side off in a rut in front of about 30 people on the gold course all clapping and cheering :D that one was a bit of a hit to the pride :D
Nightmare 🤣
You need the evotech levers completely changed my relationship with my triumph 👍👍👍
Wow! I'm exhausted just watching.
I'd like to see you do that route on at least four more occasions. Each time, you'll get more confident. You'd soon be crossing those rivers.
Well done Kate , remember it’s only slippeee and as you get more proficient it’ll get better , 😊👍👍👍👍
That was a hard beginner trial you did well , don't beat yourself up , also how tough the himmy is , but is fairly heavy bike
No beating myself up here! I loved it
Good going especially on a himmy , a bit on the heavy side
Will be seeing you on the abr trail? Think its easier than what you were doing, certainly looked tough for me as a noobie.
You have to whack on the speed more I think in places but that only comes with confidence. And of course the tendancy is to want to go slower as you feel safe and dont know whats ahead. (I.e end up facing a huge boulder etc).
Mikes a good coach!
P.s guessing you had switched the abs button on?😉
Rocks and mud aren't my favorite things, good job on you to keep at it. 👍
I can confidently say you will be able to tour the Himalayas(Ladakh). I have been riding for 7 years but no off road exp. I rented a RE for 10 days in Ladakh. I am short and can't flat foot RE. I fell 6 times. Twice I fell on my left side and both times broke the clutch lever. As a solo rider it was tough.
keep at it kate offroading is hard but makes you better at road riding aswell getting used to bike moving round
My god! I felt every bump on that ride, you are so cool for doing that, I wouldn’t of entertained any of that. 😮, Mike certainly is a good rider too, even tho he’s batting out of his league with you 😂😂, joking ❤well done 👍🏻
Get up on your feet. Stand on your pegs. Head up. Look forward.
Blimey! These three parts were quite the day!
Had my one and only go at (gentle) off roading about 20 years ago with virtually no road bike experience at the time but these were light weight enduro bikes. Ached for a few days from falls. By comparison for you of light in stature on heavy Himalayan with wide lever the experience must have been quite brutal. It’s ok for Mike with large rider to bike weight ratio!
I love your skills and determination. Sorry that the bike is really such a rubbish excuse for a fun day out.
The lil himi is wicked. I've been enjoying it on the roads and the lanes 😊
It would be difficult to keep the revs up and feather the clutch with a heavy clutch. It’s difficult to get out of or head when fear creeps in but you kept at, good for you. Mikes a good coach. Will you be trying it on one of the lighter 250 Yamahas?
It isn't an easy thing, but you did it, well, most of it ;) - nothing to be ashamed of here, and every turn of the wheel is a new thing learned.
well done you ! my advice let the machine do the work ! ATB good on you !! Oh you didnt just lie !! lol ! so funny statement ! lol impressive bikes though i think different rubber on and even better.
Hi Kate
I’m no off road rider as I have a pan European. I take my hate off lass I wouldn’t do it. Lovely county side tho shame you find it hard Mike seems to love it.
Go on my g
Royal Enfield ❤
Well done, especially considering the bike weighs in at 200kg.
Thanks!
I know that those are loaner bikes Kate, but you do show that one should set up the controls for yourself to fit the bike.
It's amazing the amount of riders that do not take the time and some $ to do this but add on accessories that don't help in riding comfort and control.
You are exhausted huuh with mike each time lifting the moto from ground hahahahaha
If you turn down help, you are silly. Don't always need to be the hero after 4 hours of trails 💪
So... how would you feel now about trying all that with a 'bigger' ADV bike? You've done this really well. New vocation revealed??
What a day, were you staying local or did you have to ride back exhausted 😊
Rode back home, only one hour away..not too bad!
Great three episodes of off roading. Don't try this on your brand new 12 or 1300 Adventure bike as a first timer. What say you Kate?
I'm glad that's over with.
You didn't have to watch 🤣
I like to watch.@@UsernameKate
Fair enough 😅
Mike, you better know how lucky you are. My wife will not touch my bike. And off-road is off the table. She has her licence but she is afraid of Florida roads.
when you are on a hill and stall, it might be easyer to roll a bit down and try a drifferent line. you stalled for a reason.
it's easyer for mike, he got longer legs and more experience. and he changed the line..he was standing on his right leg while turning the bike around it and than driving off.
you did a good job, you just lack experience. and experience is something you get after you need it.
the ktm flying by was carrying momentum and having his butt over the rear wheel to keep traction. but with that speed you only touch the top of the stones making it a smoother ride. and the ktm has lots of suspension..making it easier.
it's more difficult to learn from a partner, beceause they try to push you more and are eager to make you reach their level.
With ruts, you usually choose one and let the bike follow it, if you try to steer you fall. hang back a bit and the bike will try to stay upright, try to "let go of the handle bar" allow it to move aroud a bit.
Mycocks Electrical 😂😂 (3:07)
They’re close to me. I understand Derbyshire Dales asked them to remove the sign from their shop 😂😂😂
When you said "What's that road ?" at about 4.50 mins. That is the bottom part of the Cat and Fiddle.
I think you did really well abit more practice and you will be really good.
Mind Mike makes it look easy. He did really well explaining the lines top tuition like that you will get the hang of things really quickly, that or end up on the sofa 🛋️
Kate learn to stand up on the pegs on the rough stuff lot easier on you and the bike as your knees absorb some of the weight instead of the springs and the wheels taking the full pounding.
And that 🐊is experience, which will come.
Kate, horses for courses, this isn't your thing 😅 well done for having a good, looks really physical 🎉
HOLA........ Baptism by fire!
I'm 175, keeping that bike up when the front goes sideways aint easy...
Mike do you do one to one tuition? I ve got same bike and 5% of your skill
Uauu 😰🙏 Kate
Learning from someone you care about is very hard.
All that help hes giving and you go and do him dirty with the Mike the beast/bulbous looking boy edit lol
The sheep is a bulbous looking boy, not mike hahaha!
You did great Kate, no need to say "sorry: for stalling it, not easy. Also would have been better for you if you hadn't constantly had "coach" blathering on in your earhole. I'd have turned the comms off!
The main reason for riding a motorcycle is enjoyment . This didn't look like you were enjoying it. I put over 12,000 miles on my Himalayan and never went offroad with it . I enjoyed it for what it was, a motorcycle . I bought it for it's simplicity and I actually liked the way it looked , industrial , plus it still looks good even when it's dirty .
I dropped my hornet on some wet leaves, how u managed that ill never know.