When Kids Say They're Trans | with Sasha Ayad & Some Moms
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- Опубліковано 11 сер 2023
- Sasha Ayad (co-host of @widerlenspod ) returns with a few moms in tow to talk about the impacts of trans identifying teens on parents, marriages, and families. She also shills her forthcoming book, which title I've stolen for this episode. More info:
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Please forgive me for not remembering her name, but the woman that is off camera, it’s the second time I’ve heard a podcast with her this week and she needs to know that the calm and reasoned way she expresses the raw emotion she feels about the loss in her life is very powerful, I really wish peace for your soul, whatever that means I guess. Your hurt really comes through. 🌸
As a lesbian it makes me so angry that this child abuse is being done in the name of “LGBTQIA2S+ rights!”
Not to mention how many young lesbian girls are being abused by this movement.
So much love and respect for these brave parents.
As a gay man, ditto. Gay boys are getting abused by this movement left and right, especially effeminate gay boys.
Young lesbians are also being bullied into sex with men (who say they identify as women).
If your parent sdidnt not believe in lesbianism and thoight the biological was the only way you should live ..ie man and woman biological reality undeniable. Would you be happy if they were trying to stop you identify as a lesbian and convince you to accept the biological reality above and beyond your feelings and preferences?
I am one of those mom’s from a divorce. It’s 💔 heartbreaking, I am estranged from my son and my ex enabled through apathy my son’s dysphoria and transition. My hands have been tied and I feel like I am on an island of one
Such an important conversation. Many colleges will now grind out a kid you no longer recognize nor do they even recognize themselves. 💔😥
If your child is that susceptible to mindless ideology, you've already failed.
@@ohsweetmystery social pressure is powerful as it works by manipulating our survival instincts. This particular one also uses emotional blackmail and weaponizes peoples emotions. Many instructors in these institutions, are also susceptible to ideological capture when it is being sold as having the backing of "science" and where upper level activists are adept at excluding and silencing anyone who questions the popular ideology.
@@ohsweetmystery children are, by nature of their young years, vulnerable. Which is why they very much need parents and teachers to be on the same page about respecting a parents rights and responsibilities, and where a teacher or schools rights and responsibilities, ends.
@@Gingerblaze thank you Ginger so much for saying it better than I ever could. 🙏
@@Gingerblaze only if the parents are so self deluded thinking they are the educated and crazy right wing bigots are still in the stone age. Can't wait to visit your children's gravestones
We’re all being collectively gaslit! That is sooo true.
You're only "gas lit" if you allow yourself to be... 🐿
@@Knuck_Knucks Gee thanks for that🙄
That's what happens in an echo chamber
@@Knuck_Knuckscurrently society is governed by capitalism at it's zenith - everything is for sale
This is so good. A huge group being overlooked and even blamed are the parents. There are a bunch of bad parents pushing this but for the most part its people trying to do best for their kids. Whole families are heald hostage over this. Its so important that these people keep sticking together to keep their mental health intact. Im a recoverd alcoholic and addict. Did meeting and everything else but I was introduced to retreats. It changed my life. There is nothing like a group of people who are all involved. They all paid, they all took off. They all are there for the same reason. There isn't much more powerful and healing than that.
This was eye opening - to hear several interacting voices on the same challenging issue. To hear of that unfortunate father taking his own life as his family broke up was quite shocking. As far as 'being on the right side of history', I think it's safe to say that in the not too distant future, anyone who currently endorses or profits from the chemically experimenting on children and amputating healthy body parts to create crude non-functioning simulacra will be less than celebrated.
I hope you‘re right! I‘m not so sure anymore. Every time I think we‘re turning, there‘s even more shocking news related to „transism“, although there are signs that some ppl in governments seem to notice what the danger of transism, of „changing of who we are to become a real self“, i e what the consquences of such an ideology are in real life. For the affected individuals, their families and for the whole social structure of society even.
Someday we’ll have a national day of remembrance for the children who were mutilated during this holocaust.
@@spiritmatter1553 Doubt it. We don't have any such day for lobotomies. The left is notoriously good at avoiding bringing attention to their own past policy disasters. And not just the left, but 'professionals' who want to keep their jobs are greatly incentivized to avoid admitting to error - the worse the error is, the more they're incentivized not to admit to it, or to make excuses. A national day of remembrance would step on a lot of those toes, to say the least, so it's probably not going to happen.
Slowly more and more parents are coming to understand the VERY difficult path it is to navigate the social contagion that IS trans. Parenting has never been tougher 😢
It has things in common with Jannisary systems.
Ninja, this is just a quick note out of politeness to confirm that I won't be returning to the channel. I've noticed for some time that the views espoused by Benjamin and his guests are not those which I can share, and today's chat has finally confirmed that I'll no longer be welcome.
Best wishes for the channel and to all members, but I cannot remain one and retain a clear conscience.
@Tevildo which views are you in disagreement with?
@Tevildo Benjamin is a pretty nice guy and listens carefully and is thoughtfu. What has he said that is so bad?
@@weltschmerski Two main issues. Firstly, and most importantly, what we might characterize as "Puritanism" - the idea that "unorthodox" forms of pleasure are wicked and sinful and should be banned, irrespective of such secular issues as consent and harm to others. Secondly, the idea that The Powers That Be are engaged in a vast, deliberate conspiracy to usher in the rule of Lucifer, without taking Hanlon's Razor into account.
And, perhaps, in particular reference to this video, the idea that parents own their children and should be able to control their lives. I admit that this is more of a personal issue for me than a general statement of principle, but it's still one that makes me very uncomfortable, as I know what the consequences of allowing that view to prevail are.
Thank you all. Thank you, Benjamin, yet again. The way you hold a conversation is so valuable. And this was a particularly powerful group. My daughter is now 14. Two years ago, she told me that she was omnisexual and attending the LGBT+ meetings at school. Her two best friends at school were identifying as trans and non-binary. We also have a good male friend who was identifying as a girl, and I was in close touch with his mother. So I started tracking it closely, mostly by listening to Benjamin's conversations with de-transitioners and Sasha's and Stella's podcast. I was able to navigate the conversations with my daughter more skillfully, though far from perfectly, because I was able to hear conversations such as this one. My daughter has a measured perspective on it all now, and her friends reversed their course. Somehow it hasn't taken a strong hold at their school. I've also been able to have succinct conversations with my friends who have toddlers just to let them know the landscape. It requires confidence in the understanding that mothers like you are coming from a genuinely loving place to have these conversations with other mothers. I feel like tone is definitely changing, so I thank you for lending your voices to this very important cause. I wish you all peace in the days and years ahead.
“Omnisexual”? What happened to “pansexual?” I take it perhaps someone actually bothered to read Pius IX’s encyclical…
You fool. Why didn't you pull her out of that demonic school? Why do you have perverts as your friends
I went and wandered around at the beach with a friend and missed the premiere…
As it happens my friend is another gay who’s not into the gender mishegas. Was thrilled to be able to talk to him about it, I can never resist the chance to commiserate about how looney toons it is here in the PNW.
Yes, I’m also in the PNW (lifelong resident) and anxious to find a rural community that is not under the thrall of all the new, ‘woke’ ideologies. I’m a liberal, progressive, registered democrat and I don’t even know which tribe I belong to these days. 🧐😣
Benjamin has such an important platform and network, I am so greatful for this powerful place to come together 35:34 and witnessing the many firsts that happen here. Thank you Benjamin!!
I deeply appreciate these parents sharing their personal and family experiences! It is vital to the education of the general public - most of whom have been blindsided by this escalating social contagion and very confused about how to navigate what has become a mine field of societal ideologies.
These women, in my view, are the grounded, sane ones in this very fraught and dangerous phase of human evolution. Thank goodness for their courage to stand strong in their intuition and their sense of something being askew in this trend toward ‘woke-ism’ and embrace of any identity being adopted by often struggling, confused people (esp youths), who actually are reflecting the stressors (and endocrine-disrupting chemicals we are all swimming in) of our modern societies.
This is a multifaceted issue, and needs close examination to untangle the huge mess that’s been made by the various institutions that have exploited this situation for THEIR purposes, and not for the well-being of struggling youths and adults.
Enlightened and well informed mental health professionals are needed to intervene in this damaging trajectory.
Blessings to all these families on this difficult journey. 🙏🏻💞☮️
Very clearly and succintly articulated. Thank you.
Thank you for posting another one of these interviews. Sending hugs from and within Tranada to all of the other parents going through this madness with our kids: children, adolescent and young adult children. We are not alone. Benjamin, it seemed that you were a lot quieter during this video. Thank you for allowing mums to fully speak their truths.
When kids say they're trans it's no different than them saying they're invisible.
I agree wholeheartedly. The only problem is that these children are being gaslit into believing they are suicidal. You won’t ever find someone whispering loud enough for your child to hear, “you know, if you don’t agree with your child that he’s Batman he’s going to kill himself, now do you want Batman for a son, or a dead kid?”.
Or bored, these children need extracurricular activities, hobbies, jobs that lead to viable careers, the last thing they need is countless hours on the internet, that's why this ideology nonsense has gotten so far out of hand
I'm sorry, but if teachers were school therapists are hiding relevant medical information from parents, I think that should be an affirmative defense for the parents.
Unless the school professionals have gone to court to strip you of your parental rights, they should not be able to unilaterally make those decisions.
Between this and Covid I question everything that is suggested medically now. In my youth I trusted doctors and the medical profession implicitly
Thank you all for your work and advocacy. ❤
I keep thinking about how we as a society forgot everything we knew about things from just 20 years ago. Child development. I am huge fan of Camille Paglia and her idea that a mother and a child have a psychic connection. A mother does know her child instinctively, and usually is not surprised when they say they are gay. It is especially true of boys, from my experience.
We are experiencing this in my family. What does one do when the identity has been fully embraced and assimilated? You can't talk them out of it. You can't tell them they're in a cult. How do you stop them from medicalizing?
I suppose you could try.... Be very real about them about the possible health consequences - the daily pain, the fact many found out it wasn't actually their gender that was the problem. Be sensitive and probe for if there's other problems being covered by the gender issue. Or just plain refuse until they move out. The last one to be done if caution if you're in a state where they believe not "affirming gender" is an offense worthy of removing kids from the home.
that should be the job of doctors. to protect these kids. Unfortunately they are a weak group and will do anything to fall in line with the law of the land. All they care about is keeping their medical license. NOT THE HEALTH OF THEIR PATIENTS
Trans ideology has infiltrated most aspects of society from medicine, to education, therapy, sports, the media, etc. Sometimes it takes home schooling, changing schools and/or moving to a different area.
It's so hard, so sad but straight up ask them if they ever want to experience true sexual pleasure with a partner they love and if they want to forfeit the ability to orgasm, forever, if they go all the way. It's a terrifying thought for both you and the child. Their future happiness 😢
Google the organization these women are in. It's called Genspect.
Another excellent discussion. Thank you for giving parents a voice.
It would be good to hear from some parents that have been estranged, like myself. I was told I was using my love for my child against them....by loving them unconditionally but not unquestioningly.
Estrangement is another sinister aspect of this ideology.
Whatever happened to "First, Do No Harm?" Isn't that supposed to be the cardinal rule of medicine? It seems that this country's medical community is caught up in a social contagion mixed with greed. There is big money for health care organizations, surgeons and big pharma.
Yeah, when you normal kid suddenly comes home from school claiming to be trans…you LNOW that someone is grooming your child. Do Not Affirm and do not comply with these crazies… get you kids out of that situation as fast as you can. They, them, there are coming after you kids…fight back and do not be nice about it.
Thank you everyone for such a wonderful discussion!! This information is incredibly helpful. ❤
Our GP who I had a lot of respect for, referred my daughter to affirming “specialists” straight away and suggested I get support to deal with it.
We can assume you changed doctors, straight away. Hopefully, you found another doctor who isn’t ‘under the spell’ of this misguided and dangerous ideology. 🤞🙏🏻☮️
@@livingitup9647 No. My daughter is 18 and she really likes the guy at the Gender Clinic who recommended testosterone over the phone on a “telehealth call” (which I listened in on and made a transcript of) she subsequently went off to the “Clinic” and had blood tests which he assured her would be fine because she’s young and healthy-oh the irony of that hideous statement-and she’s 18 so she can do what she wants!!! I have made an appointment for her with a Professor of Endocrinology for whom we need a referral from our GP (which my daughter has to request again because she is 18!) I’ve yet to approach her about it as she has final year exams going in at the moment!! My head hurts seriously. In Australia it’s not clear at all how to find non-affirming medical professionals it’s bewildering!
Thank you for posting this and I know this is a balm to hurting parents. I wish I could have seen this 5 years ago when I was desperate for parenting advice with my ftm kid.
I have heard that if the parent starts to want to be addressed as non-binary, or states they are trans as well, or want special pronouns too - like the kid coming out makes them decide to come out as well - that the kid gets annoyed and/or loses interest. Because it’s really about THEM wanting to be “special”, it’s not supposed to be about THE PARENTS. Lol.
That could work for some kids who are doing it for attention. It wouldnt work on all kids because not all kids are doing it as a fashion statement. Same works for if a teenage girl wants to wear slutty clothing the parent then wears the same short skirts and red lipstick or punk hairdo and the kids then find it so annoying. Kids want to disidentify with their parents at that age to rebel so if you want kids to be good normal accountants then you dhould be a punk parent and they will rebel by doing the opposite. But thats also only going to work on an unsophisticated child ..somone who actually has body or gender disphoria can have so many things going on from having been sexually assaulted to being exposed to porn that scarwd the bejeepers out of them to just being depressed that each child has to be looked at as an individual. Just the same as somone with a rash doesnt automatically have ezema and given steroids creams but every rash is different and the cause needs to be acertained pripr to treatment being decided on. And thats not common nowadays in the medical world. You go into a doctor feeling depressed they wont ascertain whether your mom just died or you have anemia or you actually have clinical seratonin problems theyll just hand you ssris without even bothering to find out if the symptons is caused by something else. And a lot of things can cause the symptoms of gender disphoria.
My 15 yo daughter has desisted during the summer, much to my relief, but I’m still so afraid she will return to it when she goes back to school this week. I don’t know if I should bring it up finally to see where she’s at. We haven’t touched the subject at all since May. I’m so afraid that she’s gonna say something my heart is not ready to hear.
Take her somewhere where she can revel being IN her body, such as hiking or camping. The more you're in your body the less you feel disconnected from it.
@@hengineer thanks, we did some of that over the summer. :D
One year ago my son suddenly decided he was trans, told me about eight months ago. I tried to have a conversation with him about the implications of medical transition, and he became a different person, very manipulative, etc. I was appalled at how everyone in the medical and therapy community was ONLY affirming and gaslit me constantly. I am in the medical field and I no longer trust the medical or psychological community.
Fantastic conversation, fantastic honesty, only halfway through and really appreciate the insights Benjamin is bringing to the table.
Around 22 min, yes! The mother/child bond is strong, and I still feel that, but my son (with the help of his friends) has broken that bond. I feel lost.
Also, my son kept moving the goalpost. He just turned 18, moved to his dads after I attempted to have a conversation with him when he was still 17. His dad just let him do what he wanted, allowing him to go further down this rabbit hole. Now he just moved into his college dorm. I’m heartbroken.
I would be interested in hearing the role of social media in this Contagion. Both Social media and engagement with online communities is of great interest to me regarding the trans craze. Can we have some in depth discourse on this topic please, BB?
This is covered quite a bit in some of his other interviews, especially the ones with detransitioners.
Are you aware of Eliza Mondegreen? Sounds like her work would be right up your alley. Benjamin's also had several conversations with her.
@@miroirs-jumeaux I'm a big fan of hers.
Thank you all SO MUCH!
I've been down the rabbit hole for nearly twelve months examining the research and the huge, loud and extreme voices pushing affirmation.
First off gender dysphoria is a mental disorder. Rapid onset gender dysphoria is clearly being driven by social media and then within friend groups. What these mom's are doing is brave and so desperately needed.
I work as a Rolfer and movement coach and the more I learn and honestly see first hand I love on an area of NYC that is dense with gender different people (who have clearly had medical interventions... Mostly top surgery).
It has occured to me and now I believes strongly that specifically Rolfing Structural Integration manual therapy along with movement coach and talk therapies could have a profound impact on the relationship these teens have with their bodies. I don't rspeak for the Rolf institute or any other organization but strongly encourage parents trying to help their confused kids to find comfort in their bodies to seek out Rolfing.
Benjamin your conversations are some of the most important conversations on the internet at the moment. You deserve many more viewers than you have.
That’s very kind of you to say, Tracy 🤗
Great conversation. It's so good that Sasha & Stella have created these retreats for parents. I have a friend who attends weekly meetings for parents of (mostly grown) children struggling with addiction/mental health problems; would be good to see similar support groups for parents like these moms, though it's probably too soon and too difficult right now. (also, fyi - I have notifications on for you, but never get them, though I do get them for some others who talk about this stuff).
This may be one of my favourite episodes. So moving
This video was interrupted by advertisements from Headspace a government funded Australian trans activist organisation.
Beware this business will do nothing for you or your childs "gender" confusion.
Wonderful discussion, and a much needed educational resource for concerned and loving parents faced with this perplexing issue.
Powerful conversation.
this will be looked back upon by humanity even worse than the Salem Witch trial type hysteria which if we are being honest with ourselves is far less absurd than parents letting small children choose their gender and choose their surgeries ...
Yes, this looks very similar like Salem and 1980's satanic panic, where words of kids were just taken by face value while they did not jive with the reality.
Satanic panic with added internet and mass capture. Sometimes I think it's getting better, but I also saw a girl in the supermarket today in a football kit and said a silent prayer for her to escape this stuff, because it's just so easy for it to sweep people up. Just takes one person to plant the seed.
When kids say they’re trans, the questionable parents and teachers are to be rigorously scrutinised
Scrutinized? Looked at rigourously? And what would that do exactly by looking at the parents.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Until your kid comes out as trans you don't get to criticize parents. My experience is that these kids come from "normal" families. Stop blaming the parents and focus your attention on UA-cam and Discord.
Goed discussion and it is very important to keep talking about what happens.
Thanks for covering this important topic
Thank you for acknowledging the effect on mothers and postulating on the cause, the bond, the gaslighting. I think parents get so much crap for this no matter which way they go.
The book is great.
Important reading for all parents, especially to help catch them up with the intricacies of all this, save time and take back authority as parents.
I have a close friend with two daughters. Thank you for giving me something I can share with her so she can brace herself for (what I perceive to be) the inevitable.
I would be interested to know the stats on the rate of suicide among parents who’ve lost a child to this cult. The whole thing is a nightmare.
Considering that parents who call the national 988 crisis line to discuss why they are suicidal get told to suck it up and 'support' their kids, I would guess the parent suicide rate will be going up exponentially real soon. But ain't nobody gonna keep stats on that.
Parents don’t ever have that as an option we have to parent no matter what…that’s the deal and discussing parent completed suicide is just as bad as drs telling parents it’s medicalization or suicide for teens.
We have to stick out for our kids. That’s the deal.
Why on earth would you think I was suggesting parental suicide as an option by simply wondering what the statistics were?
I bet it’s more prevalent than many think.
"We are collectively being gaslit" that is spot on ! So True omg
@Tevildo... I am sorry, it seemed as though we, or I was ganging up on you. This was not the case at all, so please consider our history in chat and recognize that while I was harsh, it was ONLY in response to what you had said and not YOU personally. You are a very valued member of Benjamin's channel and for chat. I speak for ALL of us, when I ask that you reconsider your last comment and join us again ❤and 🐈head bonk
Ninja, I understand, please don't think that _you_ have anything to do with my decision - honesty is never a bad thing, which is one of the reasons I feel the channel is better off without me. My views are indeed "BS" to many here, so my choice is to either lie about them (which would make me uncomfortable on the basis of whatever moral standards I still may have), or defend them against the hostility of the channnel, which would be a source of stress without any real prospect of achieving anything positive.
I might still continue to watch some videos to see if the channel returns to how it was when I joined, but I don't think my making any active contribution will be a good thing for anybody.
Tev, 💜
@@Tevildo ... You have heard me say, not 2 weeks ago, as well as previously... that I appreciate your challenging my opinions. I do NOT want to exist in a bubble and it is very easy to do, with society and politics being so divisive, as they are today.
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You and I are on the same page, with most things. it is fairly often, we have a different perspective and the words we choose do not "fit" each other's style ("bullying" vs. "shame" is the best example), but you, I and the vast majority in chat and on earth... want the same things.
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One of the things you bring to the table, is your push back on a fair amount of what I say. There has not been a time, when you and I have "sparred" a bit in chat, when I did not continue to run the conversation through my head, well after the podcast was over. When scanning the comments below, I always seek those you have made, as they will nearly 100% of the time, provide me with a take, I had not yet considered or... I should probably take another look at. That does _not_ mean I will change my position and often times I don't. However, you help me to turn that lens in on myself and help me to break free of a bubble "may" have made for myself.
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I ask you to reconsider your thoughts above, for as much as I need your pushback... you need mine (ours) just as much. Nobody is above disagreement and we must ALL find a way to articulate our thoughts, so that they can be understood. Chat adds a difficulty to that, as the limit of characters, but 95% of the regulars are as understanding as anyone. That does not mean we may or may not over-react or fail to converse as civilly as we can or should, but that means you must try a bit harder to be understood.
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You know all of what I am saying is true, so be who you are, who we have all come to expect from your presence in chat and why we are all happy to see you there 🐈head bonks from ALL of us in chat
@@TevildoHow did it used to be,
@@realMaverickBuckley It _used_ to be that Benjamin presented the ridiculousness of the far-left with little comment, or only with comments from those who agreed that it was ridiculous. It's _becoming_ an active presentation of the views of the far-right. I hope I'm wrong, and Ninja has convinced me to stay to find out. But I'm still afraid that the channel is heading to a more extremist position than I'm comfortable with.
What do these kids think they will gain? They need to know it is not reversible.
Freedom from perceived expectations? Avoidance of adult risk and responsibility? Alleviation of their depression? "Community"? Attention? Social status?
@@DaveBadger perceptual "death" ie: "dead name"
Autonomy, control, and self-determination that either cannot be attained or is perceived to be unattainable.
@@Gingerblazesee I'm curious about this because I don't know how true this is. They are plenty of adult expectations that are not related to gender (employment, education, maintaining healthy relationships, honesty/integrity/character).
Why are we assuming that they *must* be avoiding something?
They DONT know that it’s not reversible. They’ve been lied to by everyone around them and I’ve gotten into fights with kids who think that lupron isn’t going to permanently sterilize them-they were told it was a “pause button”
Great information and discussion... When are we going to address what is likely the main cause? Increased technology and especially social media? Children socializing with an Ipad instead of each other!
Looks like cats are enjoying new digs. Good for you Benjamin🥳
Kids say the darndest things…
...just ask Art Linkletter and Bill Cosby, too, also...! 😅
MAGA
EXACTLY MOM AGAINST GENDER AFFIRMATION👍👍👍
The only maga worth supporting.
The idea that kids will use trans as a way of dealing with a multitude of issues, and no one is questioning it scares the crap out of me. Why because if I was a teen today I would use it as well. I had gender confusion as a child/teen. I hated being a girl when I was young. My mother who was a second wave conservative feminist would push back on that by telling me there was nothing boys could do that I couldn't do. Of course that doesn't apply to all the sports I played where I definitely saw the differences. As a teenager one of my problems was that I wasn't straight, didn't understand that, and came from a very conservative background. My family went to church 4 or 5 days a week. That wasn't for services but for social activities. The church was basically the center of our lives.
I tried three times at 13, 16, and 19 to commit suicide. If I was a teen today with what I wrote above I would advocate for being trans. After all I tried to delete myself and we are told it's the trans kids who do things like that. But I would be lying, I know I would lie because I never told my parents I tried at 13. I was having issues at school so they sent me to a therapist and I made it a point never to tell him the truth. Why? I heard voices that told me to kill myself told me that I was unwanted, unworthy of love and life. They were always there but would get louder when I was alone and no background noise was available. So at 13 I figured I had schizophrenia, I was terrified of living the rest of my life in a padded cell or on the streets as a homeless person. So I hid it for 3 more years. At 16 my parents found me during my attempt. This time I did tell everyone about the voices. I got the diagnosis of schizophrenia just kike I feared. A bad reaction to the medication and about a month later aftersome begging to be taken off the meds, I was reevaluated. Turns out I had what is now bipolar 1 with phycosis. Still a severe mental illness but not as bad to live withas schizophrenia.
If a child/teen like me tried to transition just because they were too scared of a diagnosis they thiught they might have. Transition isn't going to help them. Because you haven't addressed thier actual mental illnesses. (Most of us have more than one)
We need to go back to a wait and see model. Let the child psychiatrists and therapist do thier actual job and get to the bottom of each childs concerns. Instead of treading all kids the exact same way.
The problem is the child psychiatrists are on the payroll of big pharma just like everyone else
Thank you.
Bummer to have a cold when you're on vacay
Today, having watched this interview and previously Benjamin hosting James Lindsay and Wokal Distance, it made me wonder what would happen if the two groups, the practical and the theoretical, were introduced to one another. I think in the hands of anyone else, either side might talk past one another, but I have little doubt that Benjamin would manage to generate some useful synergy between the two groups.
I jumped directly from that convo to this, and while I wasn’t disoriented, by the end of the day I was tuckered out from the breadth of ground traveled
@@BenjaminABoyce Aye, you do so well to keep your equilibrium, if I were in your shoes (and given that I've listened to many hours of your talks, I reckon I have a fair estimation of how I would feel), by this point I'd be ranting like Alex Jones and blowing a proverbial gasket. Which, realistically, would not help anyone. So, hats off to you sir! You are doing a grand job. Poor old James, if anyone is about to crack and go full Jones, it is he. I really felt the frustration in his voice today. He has gazed into the abyss for far too long. Someone needs to take him out for a slap-up meal at Mr's Miggins Pie Shoppe, followed up with a few pints of brown ale.
@@BenjaminABoyce Me too! I did one each day and my head is spinning. Can't believe you went from one to the next with just a wee in between! You are amazing. 🥰
Good show y'alls. Cheers ! 🍺🐿
I really enjoyed listening to the heartfelt story of the lady off camera. I genuinely empathize with her, and hope the best for her and her family. However, it was really hard to hear her say that she was happy, that the meeting wasn't just a bunch of "right wing, religious people". Rather, that her people, "the educated people" were there. 😖 As an educated, right wing, Christian woman, it just shows how much damage the media has done to the public perception of those on the Right and those of Faith. It's really sad...
Always 3 PM EST. Any particular reason, Benjamin? ☺️
Maybe it's because it's still realistic to participate live in Europe - it's 9 p.m. central and 8 p.m. in Madrid and London.
5AM Sydney 😅
@@justmorenoise love you seem to be up for this one!? So an hour later would be best 4 most parts of your audience, dear Benjamin!
I'm gonna guess it's because noon feels like a round number, and our noon is your noon + 3.
@@miroirs-jumeaux 🤔
"We are in the middle of a medical scandal"
_laughs in COVID_
Seriously, it’s like a neo-version of The Crucible.
We need a global movement to counter this tragic TikTok trend. Maybe ACT, ie Against Childhood Transition. I'd definitely sign up.
These parents are living in a criminal state which has abused and gaslit them and their children.Brave people.
Everybody gangsta on LQBTQ+ until their daughter transitions.
Yeah, when she said she was okay with her middle school daughter identifying as “pansexual…” what? And yes, when you give kids an inch, they push for a mile. That’s what kids do. Just proof you can have a degree and not have common sense.
#LetWomenSpeak 💕
It's become trite to blame the 'internet' and yet I am Jazz is in its 8th season
I don’t know a single person who watches the human zoo channel
I thank you for sharing that completely personal anecdote @@kathrineici9811
The internet is where the majority of teens see it. The problem is not inherently the fault of the internet, the problem is because of websites that choose to harbor those who want it to spread to every child of every age. The biggest social media to entertainment media outlets online are run by "progressives", so of course they're going to permit their own messages to be present, endorse them, and ensure as best as they can that their messages are the only ones to be heard with algorithms making it difficult for the average person to find people who fundamentally disagree and oppose these messages.
If your child said they were vegan, your advise would also have to be applicable in that situation as it is essentially the same. If your child said they were diabetic, would be a different matter. Your advise should not be applicable and should distinguish the two. If your advice doesn't include that distinction, it's going to cause just as much harm as the next bit of quackery.
Too many ads on this video. Literally every 6 minutes
Interesting. I have not had one advert - so maybe, install an ad blocker? I have Adblock Plus installed on my browser. Hope that helps.
adblockers are free mate
Thanks for letting me know. I'm out of town and UA-cam will oversaturate videos with ads if I don't stop them, and I forgot.
Adblock. Two clicks.
When kids ' say they're trans' remove them from the internet.
The description of not really looking at the problems sounds like modern America in a load of issues.
Is it too naive to say keep your kids off of social media, talk to your kids about the lies of gender identity,know who their friends are, etc. I just don’t see how the parents allow their kids to dive so deep into the ideology before they notice a change in their child.
WoULD-you-LIKE-TO-play-A-GAMe-? 🐿
Parents have no rights now
The more I listen to Lisa selin Davis, the more it sounds like the excuse
Did she trans her child?
I wish more people were telling these parents the truth. "Trans" is a non-medical term and does not describe an actual medical or physiological condition. These kids are not "suffering" like you're being told. Even if a child is diagnosed with gender dysphoria (which, if done ethically, is a quite lengthy process done by a multi-disciplinary team of experts), it almost always goes away within a few years with no intervention at all. These kid's "gender identity” is not a medical emergency, it's just their *personal sense* of their gender which, like all humans, naturally fluctuates. Also, this movement is known for using semantics so be careful of statements like "puberty blockers are reversible" because what they mean by that is that, technically yes, you can stop taking them...not that the side effects are reversible. Another common falsehood, "They'll commit suicide if you don't affirm them"...is even scarier in ways because, while there are ZERO studies showing this to be at all accurate, suicide is a socially contagious behavior, especially amongst youth so, it could be dangerous if your child is overly-exposed to this idea. Protect your kids by learning all you can about this ideology, these prescriptions, these surgeries, and the impact all of it is having on society, especially women & children. It's a historical social event for sure, and we just don't know the truth from the lies enough yet to make any life-altering decisions for our kids. And just to be clear, I am not anti-trans, I am a lesbian woman with children and I am anti-harming or even risking harm to a child for no good reason.
Call child abuse center if they dont ground them in there bio gender
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Tragic 😢
But hopeful
I'm starting to think this trans nonsense is a result of children who have been overindulged and have never been told "no" to anything in their lives, combine that with lack of oversight and too much internet, and here you go, never let go of reality in attempts to appease anyone, no one benefits
I am very disappointed and almost disgusted by this singular droning on about the affect that transing kids has on the mother's, without any, or even more than 5% of a consideration toward the father. The child is half his too. We men are not being considered In this conversation, the affect that loosing a child has on the man of the house. How he as a father is being emasculated and destroyed. It's all about the women and the mothers. The whole problem of the trans agenda, the feminist agenda, the marxist socialist agenda is to separate men and women, to prey of the sympathies of the women, to destroy the access of men to their wives, their children, their progeny, their decendency, by the very language these women are using to say that it is exclusively the woman's problem, the woman is most affected, that theirs is the only focal point that matters, as if the female, the mother, is going to fix this problem. You are not. These women are already using the language of the groomers and the socialists, because they dont understand the communist agenda and the language the enemy is using. You have already capitulated. Men are gonna have to fix it. It's a black and white issues, yes and no, right and wrong, not grey. So, Men are standing by waiting for you to try, but you will fail. Women are just too compromising and are not strong willed enough to do the job. Period. Men have waited patiently. And it's time for us to take a stand.
Well take it then! Stand up and slap this whole thing down! Make 'wait until your father gets home' mean something again!
@@denisecat2708 I already did. I live as i know and believe. I'm not complaining from an observation point. I act. The real question is, what have you done?
@@davidtoda1751 As a mother, I am doing everything I can to research and learn and pray that my adult child does not sink any further into this ideology. That and struggling to keep my family from splitting apart is really all I can do right now.
@@denisecat2708 I understand, and respect your struggle, it's a terrible set of circumstances that are being inflicted upon us. This ideological conflict has affected my life as well. In a slightly different way, but none-the-less, it's the same thing. Stay strong, and work hard, if you're married to a man, my comment was directed toward the dismissal of the father and husband from the fight, from the process, eliminating him from his ability to fight and resist this war against reality in ways that only men can. When it comes down to the bottom line, a family may have to employ the very tactics that are being used against the family, like yours, and just cut off access to the one who is trying to destroy you and your family. It may require a hard no-go beyond this point to protect you and yours from destruction. I am sorry to say that, but loving compassionate responses are always used to destroy the enemy, as they are trying to redefine you, as the enemy. Dont capitulate. Stay strong. You know what is right. And wrong. Be well.
Why is this true? It's obvious from the dialog in this video: so many words spent on describing how hard it was for these women to "find their courage" or "feel supported" and "understood" or convince themselves that they "weren't crazy" or a conservative or religious fanatic. In other words, for them to convince themselves that they were not acting alone, that they still had a social network which supported them. There are always outliers, of course, but by and large these are female problems. Men, by and large, don't have a problem standing alone, and telling a person threatening their family to back off - that is, when they aren't collectively emasculated, neutered, silenced, and pushed out of the picture by society. All the female empowerment in the world will not make mothers significantly more like fathers.
~1:40 - In the UK, the 'thoughtful' labelled people are on the right.
In the US the 'thoughtful' labelled people are on the left.
The people who will buy the book are probably a little bit more conservative than many others.
I think that the US right will see a book for 'thoughtful parents' as being a more academic and lefty thing.
I think that the UK right will see a book for 'thoughtful parents' as being a more conservative and traditional sort of almost Hogwarts-like thing.
Everybody gangsta on LQBTQ+ until their daughter transitions.