3:38 "For financially minded people, think of it as firing $3000 of ammunition every 60 seconds" This statement combined with the AK "cha-ching" clip from Lord of War is absolute genius 😆😆😆
Simple my friend : 1) We will cut from government budget fοr schools and hospitals. 2) We will increase the retirement limits 3) We will increase the taxies And there.
I love that scene from Predator where the men line up after spotting the monster and proceed to fire everything...Then he runs out of ammo and the barrel keeps spinning... such a badass movie
@@nilsingvar7319 They do, sometimes, have more powder. So they make a bigger flash for the camera. Blanks however do not produce recoil, and if they do it is very very little. The projectile leaving the barrel is where the recoil impulse is generated. In real life a person couldn't actually hold and fire a minigun. They weight 84 pounds, and require 24 volt power. Not to mention the weight of enough ammo for anything more than a fraction of a second of firing would be huge.
BRRRYYTTT the gun. Also, if you ever wondered why something so large is called MINIgun, it's because it's scaled down (miniaturised) version of aircraft 20mm vulcan multi-barreld cannon. Minigin like guns also exist in plethora of diffrent calibers, both smaller, and larger ( 4.7, 5.56, 9,14.5, 20, 25, even 30 mm. )
I saw once a video of a handheld minigun in .22 Magnum Rimfire. It was made with a battery powered drill, and some Ruger 10-22 parts and modding components.
@@carloshenriquezimmer7543 The funny thing is, while 22 short (not magnum) is essentialy a peashooter, good enough to hunt rats and small birds. In a gatling-configuration, it'd be powerfull enough for combat, as long as the Rate of Fire is high enough. The issue would be the powersupply and ammunition. But, in a Sci-Fi Fantasy setting, that could be solved with a 'Magic Core' and a 'Bag of Holding'...
@@abowden556 IIRC there is american company called "empty shell" that makes handheld ( well, as much as you can make mnigun "handheld" :P ) mini- and micro-guns in small calibers.
I remember seeing a video of someone firing an actual, live ammo minigun from the hip. It was a really short burst with maybe 3-4 rounds hit anywhere near the target before the muzzle was way off target. You could see the shooter physically skid back on the dirt a few inches as they tried to retain balance. Not an infantry weapon by any means.
Fun Fact: Genndy Tartakovsky (Samurai Jack, Primal, etc) was brought in to storyboard the Iron Man & War Machine vs Hammer Drones battle scene. Allegedly when someone on staff congratulated him for "Graduating to Live-action", he told the person to 'Go Fuck Yourself'. That is Gendy's dedication to the medium of animation.
Old Painless from the first Predator movie is the first time the M134 Minigun was ever seen on film if I recall. Jesse Ventura had experience with the real thing, which is why he handled it.
Even the MG-42 was considered to big of an ammo hog and it fired a 1200rpm which is why most modern squad machine guns are around 600rpm. There is a great scene in the extras for Terminator 2 where the director test fired the minigun and with a huge shit eating grin he turned to the people behind him and said "Arnold is going to love this. So could you produce a practical man portable minigun with modern materials motors and batteries? Yes you could, Should you? Probably not.
You could, but it wouldn't be good for anything. When I was in the army, our preference was to switch to a slower gas setting (on the FN MAG), not a faster one. You're far more likely to find yourself wishing that you had more ammo than wishing that your MG fired faster. Ten shots per second is already plenty.
@@user-ty2uz4gb7v Don't know about you but if I saw someone calmly walking towards me firing one of these it would defiantly be brown trouser time time.
Higher RoF have superior short time suppression over the slow RoF one(this one rely prolong firing to suppress), funny enough, that even MG42 RoF is considered a waste of ammo, the modern MG3 is still in service by many country, the military just don't really plan to have a slow RoF GPMG, at least not the NATO
The M134 had a baby brother, the Microgun, a 5.56 version of 10 barrels with a maximum ROF at 10,000. Years ago one of my brothers had a dear lease in our home state of TX where the owner was part of the original R&D team at Aberdeen for the M134. His part in development was in ammo feed, the receiver and delinking. Fun Fact: For many years ID4 held the record for most blanks fired during a production. I recently discovered that number to be over 300,000!!
You could get away with it with like, an exosuit, a smaller caliber, like 5.56 i've seen actual dudes fire that with live rounds... It didn't look pleasant. but it was possible... now for the big boy...youd need to be like, both strong and heavy like a damn professional wrestler because even if you were strong enough, you would just fall over... i believe those have about 300ish pounds of constant recoil when firing.
I am Heavy weapons guy, and this is my weapon. She weighs one hundred fifty kilograms and fires two hundred dollar, custom-tooled cartridges at ten thousand rounds per minute. It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon for 12 seconds.
Hey Johnny, there's a minigun with a short set of barrels fired out of the sliding rear door of a Toyota Previa in the film 'Last Action Hero' just so you are aware. Keep up the phenomenal work, my friend 👍🏻
I like that you mentioned the Empty Shell XM556 Microgun at the end. Shows that there are those who want to make the handheld Minigun fantasy a reality.
terminator 2 makes sense, Sarah may not have been anticipating a terminator to use it, but maybe had it for vehicle mounting for the future. considering he's a robot it makes sense he could handle it for the big engagement. it did not last long as well haha. i think that's what makes it cool in the movie tho.. its at least somewhat believable
Great seeing you use a Spriggan clip. I remember the first time I saw footage of that movie as a kid and it was mashed up to some techno screaming the future is ours. Thanks for the nostalgia!
i didnt realised it, but you made sense to this gun for "fast moving platforms" and not for "handheld bodybuilders"! You d never see a US army soldier trained to hold and fire a "handheld"minigun...indeed !
The m134 was never meant to be man portable even when it was in its XM phase, some Hollywood asshole dreamed that up. In that assholes defense it wasn't till years later I realized how much logistical support it takes to even power it up.
As noted, in the early 1970s; SF teams R&Ded a few mini gun systems but none were practical, safe or able to function 💯 in field, jungle ops. I remember "Rock & Roll" from Hasbro's GI Joe carrying a new "mini gun" system in 5.56mm. He wore a heavy pack & the 6 5.56mm barrels were 💥. Rock & Roll toted a 30/30 lever action rifle too. 😉
@@benjamingamache6441 Yeah, but the gun weighed only 10kg itself and it was intended to fire from hip with a backpack. Apart from that i'm curious if it's possible to make such a gas-operated gatling, just like the Gsh-6-30, but fed with 7,62mm cartridge. If this mechanism could be light enough to be able to carrying the gun? And if recoil with this action would be controllable?
Some facts about the MG151 aircraft autocannon:- The MG151/20 20mm autocannon, chambered in 20*82mm , was an upgrade over its MG151/15 chambered in 15*96mm. It was the primary gun of the later versions of BF-109 , earlier ME-262 variants and other German fighter planes. It was also mounted into a X3 AA mount version of a SdKFZ 251 half track. Imperial Japan was also a user of this aircraft autocannon. Fun fact, the gun was captured , reverse engineered and widely used by Portugal and France in their colonial wars. The French mounted it on a Mini pickup truck in their Algerian war campaign. Articles available in Tank encyclopedia. The Portuguese were the first to mount MG 151/20 on their Alouette III helicopters during the Portuguese colonial wars, specially in Mozambique and Angolan stage. The Rhodesians and South Africans were also primary users of the MG-151 autocannons. During international arms embargo on SA due to apartheid, South African armscor-Vektor company reverse engineeed the MG-151/20 Into a more simplified and modern version called the Vektor GA-1 rattler autocannon, which also have double feed features and can be fired by manual configuration or by an electronic plug setup. This configuration is also available for SAAF and Rhodesian air force Alouette III helicopters and later the SAAF denel Ah-1 rooivalk helicopter. France, Portugal and South Africa , nevertheless still have modernised versions of MG-151/20 autocannons , made by both Nexter and Vektor respectively.
@@sabotabby3372 also Rhodesians were involved in the North African and European theater of WW2 (specially on the Italian and Balkan frontier) as a part of commonwealth forces .
Fun fact: when the first mini guns were put on Russian airplanes the recoil was so strong that it would damage the jet by over time compressing the metal around it
I love the Terminator hip firing the minigun because it implies he is super heavy. there are a few other indications that he weighs as much as a car, but it adds to the illusion of the story i think. i've heard complaints that firing a minigun from the hip is impossible due to constant recoil, but that is only true for Bill Duke in predator or a normal human. The Terminator is a crazy future robot! He could easily be heavy enough to absorb the recoil, and he stands in a wide stance. You wouldn't even need exotic materials to create a robot the size of a human that is dense enough. The lightest platform i've seen for a minigun is a dune buggy. I know a guy who owns a minigun, and he didn't want something massive to mount it on, so he welded a steel tube dome on his dune buggy that transfer the recoil down to the frame and to the wheels. from what i remember, the buggy had super stiff coil over suspension (not leaf springs). I watched the gun fire full bursts with my own eyes though, and it was plenty stable. that dune buggy could not have been more heavy than a Terminator robot! I will add that the buggy was only allowed to fired along its major axis to avoid excessive rocking side to side, and it was never fired while the buggy was in motion. it was literally just a convenient way for the owner to take his minigun to the range and fire it. if you think about it, its kind of genius because setting one up without that kind of platform would have an insane nightmare of finding a spot, making sure your anchor will be solid, bolting it down, checking the bolts, then reversing everything when you go home.
Important note about Resident Evil though, is that it is wielded by Nemesis, who is a genetically engineered, lab-grown freak of nature, is essentially a fleshy terminator. If anyone(anything?) could wield a minigun, its him. I also imagine carrying a backback full of ammunition is far more practical for a super-strong organism with no sense of fatigue.
I liked the part where the mini gun barrel was still spinning & smoking but had no rounds left. It was a clever way of saying: we have advanced weapons but they too may fail or run out....
a funny and somehow ironic thing about Miniguns is how they are portrayed in games like COD. The minigun was specifically designed not only to fire an insane amount of lead per second but the the 6 barrel design meant that the gun wont suffer from overheating as much as a single barreled machine gun since not only the barrels take turn firing but the revolving motion also lets the barrel cool down by the air. But in games like COD, the minigun is portrayed as a gun that easily overheats after 30 seconds of continues firing.
It's a misconception that miniguns have multiple barrels so that they wouldn't overheat. In reality they have multiple barrels in order to multiply the fire rate while a single barrel is still shooting at a rate comparable or over that of a regular machinegun. As said in the video, they're designed for fast moving platforms to maximize the amount of lead sent down the range over a few second burst. They absolutely will overheat in continuous firing.
The Mini-Gun was Favored by Blain in the Movie Predator and in Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon it Pays Homage to the Predator Franchise in the 1st Mission Entitled No Time to Bleed which References the quote From the Movie and the Mission Puts you in A Chopper with A Minigun while Blasting "Long Tall Sally" by Little Richard.
Thanks for mentioning what the cost of fireing one of these things is, it's something that gets ignored too often in arguments about these kinds of weapons, heck even a conventional LMG or MMG would cost something like 400 to 600 dollars a minute to fire.
One former reason to join the real Military, the combat arms :). If I added up all the ammo I fired while I was in , it would have run over $2million easy and that is in 1980's-1990's dollars. You're never gonna get the chance to shoot off that much money in bullets any other way unless you/your family is obscenely rich.
The M134 was actually quite problematic. GE was never able to perfect the de-linking mechanism, and, it jammed ALL the time. It wasn't until Dillon Aero stepped in, with their redesigned M134A1, with a working de-linker, that it became an effective weapon.
The GE one also fired at 6000 rpm opposed to the tuned down 3000 rpm that replaced it, and it was developed 40 years earlier without modern precision manufacturing
When I was riding around in Hueys in West Africa, the old timers told me I should listen to "Flight of the Valkyries", but I'd always put on "Long Tall Sally" instead, it was a generational thing. Great video Johnny, as always.
A good video to demonstrate the pure weight and recoil is when Rob Gronkowski shot one at a firing range. You can see him struggle to hold it steady even being the massive athlete he is.
It is my opinion that the Cyberdyne minigun scene in Terminator 2 is the greatest action scene in film history. Sights, sound effects, music. Everything perfect.
I want a movie where the Big muscle guy grabs a minigun from a mount and they play it for absolute realism... the recoil, and torque from the barrels spinning, knock him over.....
Looks cool in the movies...with blanks. I test fired one out of the window of an HH-53C helicopter, Air Rescue. over the North Sea. No blanks. I weighed 215 lbs., and it was all I could do to keep it aimed at the wooden target. The recoil is a lot. Arnold would have his hands full with anything other than blanks, and those were probably minimal loads at that.
I was issued one of these about 20 years ago during my first tour in Iraq, it's fun to fire but is definitely not man portable. Between the gun, ammunition and 24 volt power supply you're looking at well over 200 lbs.
Hey, great video as usual. Recoil: Firing ONE 7.62 round from an M14 kicked like a mule! And they're firing 1000+ plus rounds-per-minute hand-held? Great visuals, but ain't gonna work in the real world. That gun's gonna jump right outta your hands! Even the old Thomson firing .45s had a rep for the barrel climbing at a much lower cyclic rate of fire.
Some crazy have made handheld version, 5,56mm. That thing is impossible to handle. UA-cam has a video where people try it with 10 rounds loaded. As soon as they pull the trigger the recoil swoop the gun.
Predator Mini Gun scene ....one of the greatest weapons demos of all time....would be more than willing to carry the weight for a moment like that. Go Jesse Ventura!!!
A bit of trivia. The XM133 is a 7.62x51mm self-powered gas operated 6-barrel minigun, but it was never put into production. The XM214 'Microgun' is the 5.56x45mm variant of the M134. And, the GAU-19 is a 3-barrel .50 BMG variant.
Hey Johnny I got a very great video for you to cover, and that would be the H&K 93. This gun is sadly not remembered much, but it is seen in the films of Rambo first blood, parts of Black Hawk Down, and as well there is also a scene where you see it even having the optical attachment in the movie The Thing. In fact I am having a video on it very soon on August 7th, although it is pretty much covering the Vector V93, the two guns are pretty much the same. If you want you can use some of the footage of me firing the gun if you want or as well me taking the part the gun, since there are rarely any films that I know of that actually even have this gun in there. As well I do talk a little bit about the history and background of the HK 93. And the weird thing is I do at the badass out here this gun was actually used the majority by a large amount of American police forces, is a type of assault rifle, but as well also a type of makeshift sniper rifle.
Bro was speaking straight facts throughout the entire video💀. But still....hand wielding a minigun is badass, that's one way to earn respect in video games.
That's the lore behind Fallout's mini-gun, and all the other big weapons (like the Fatman or Gatling laser). They were designed to be used by a dude in power armour as a squad support weapon.
What, no Doom 2 minigun footage Johnny?? 🤔😉😆 But seriously another great video mate! I remember reading in Mike Durant's bio "In the Company of Heroes", that after his Blackhawk was shot down over Mogadishu, it was so maddening that at that time he was faced with the fact that the miniguns on either side of the chopper had no independent electrical power source. So once the bird was crashed down, and the aircrafts batteries were disconnected or dead, so were the mini guns. If these were still able to be operated he may not have been captured, and his crew and MOH winners Shughart and Gordon might still be alive.
You forgot the minigun mounted on Robocain (Robocop 2, 1990). The gau12 25mm of the Harrier in True Lies (1994). The M134 with ironsight in The Matrix (1999).
I thought this was a re upload. I feel like I heard you say before on how a person can't carry and shoot the minigun. Next gun should talk about is the Famas. I like that gun.
A thing that a lot of people get wrong with the minigun is referring to it as a Gatling gun. This is wrong because the Minigun is a scaled down M61 Vulcan rotary cannon, the minigun being automatically driven makes it a machinegun or rotary machine gun. A Gatling gun is not a machinegun because it's manually operated aka not an automatic weapon. It is in the same weapon category as older volley guns, and is considered a type of artillery.
Only time I ever saw a minigun, presumably the M-134, was during a training FTX at the JRTC in Fort Polk way back when I was in the Army in my waning days to collect a DD-214. A unit that came for training had a vehicle mounted one. The safety was a screwdriver wedged into the barrels. Never saw them fire it and the armorer was watching it like a hawk. Other than that, I've only seen them in movies as we'd never use them in Iraq since we had the ma deuce, M-240, and M-249 for our trucks, M-249s at checkpoints and towers. They're a huge maintenance liability and a waste of ammo unless you're CAG or SWCC boats doing an exfil for SEALs and want to make a nice show of force.
When i saw Terminator 2 i had never heard or seen a minigun. So when the chopper pilot said "Thats a Stamp-ini gun" i honestly for the longest time thought thats what it was called "
I can say good video and already knew that weapon would be impossible IRL still cool in the movies and maybe for a next video you can do 1 on the infamous Tec-9 as an idea.
Even the 2017 XM556 you'll need a freakishly large pack of ammo and a battery on your back, and have a strong man body build just to control it's power.
The Soviets also had a counterpart for the M134 minigun, called the GshG 7.62 , chambered in 7.62*54mm. They also have 23mm and 30mm Gatling guns designed by the GshG bureau. The Chinese also have a 14.5 mm Gatling gun.
In Predators the Russian soldier Nikolai was supposed to use a GshG 7.62, but I think they couldn't get one for the movie. So they had him use an M134, like in the first Predator
The only time it really made sense was in Terminator because he is for all intents and purposes (let's not get into technicality pedantics now) a robot where strength isn't an issue. I don't have a huge problem with people using medium machine guns shouldered or on the move provided it's done realistically. They are very heavy but in a pinch these things are possible, as long as it's not portrayed as some kind of standard practice but rather an 'in a pinch' niche circumstance. The entire premise of a minigun though is that you need to guarantee hitting something in which either you, the target or both are moving at very high speed and you only have a very, very short window of exposure. Basically why a lot of modern fighter aircraft guns and point-defense systems use ultra-fast rotators, they get a few percent's of a second to fill every square inch of space with a round before their exposure window has elapsed.
I watched one of the episodes from Oban: Star-Racers, wherein one of the opponents has a huge gatling-like machine gun equipped underneath its “wings”. Just wanna mention that.
The 6000 rounds per minute is only possible in fixed aircraft mounts or pods with LINKLESS feed systems and a higher rpm motor. The best example of such a high rate of fire was those miniguns mounted on the AC47 Spooky gunship. The average rate of fire is between 1500 and 3000 rounds per minute for flexible mounts.
I flew UH-1C Huey gunships that were armed with miniguns. 1 on each side of the aircraft, mounted on pylons. Our guns were set to fire 2,400 rpm with an automatic shutoff after 3 seconds. If the guns were aimed far left or right, the inboard facing gun would shut off, while the outboard facing gun would increase its rate of fire to 4,000 rpm. We carried about 6,000 rds. of ammo.
When i worked in Theatrical Ordnance , we got a original M134 in.. And yeah we tried shooting it offhand with live rounds (Norinco 7.62 x 51 as it was $120 a case of 1000 at the time).. half a second was the most we could hold it on target before it walked at 4000 rpm...
Issue is that a handheld version would in practice not be better than any existing GPMG or squad automatic. You'd surely be able to carry enough ammo and spare barrels for the same weight as a portable minigun to achieve more fire sustainability than the portable minigun. There could perhaps be a case for a gas driven version, those don't need a external power source as they're more akin to conventional weapons, so they're overall lighter than their electrical equivalents
I am heavy weapons guy, and this is my weapon, she weighs 150 kilograms and fires 200$ custom tool cartridges at 10000 rounds per minute, it costs 400000$ to fire this weapon.. for 12 seconds.
James Cameron said the minigun in "Terminator 2" was detuned from its original, much faster firing speed so it would be possible to see the individual flashes from the barrel. He also said, "the guys who loaned us that gun weren't happy about seeing Arnold drop it on the floor next to him." Apparently, they thought the Terminator should have gently set it down on a pillow or something. :)
Local guy bought a minigun from us about 1998. Once the form 4 came back we took it out to run a few belts through it. I used a VHS camcorder and every burst caused the video to vibrate so bad it was blurry.
Every so often someone - I suspect a kid - puts a question On Quora about why don't we use many guns like they did in the predator movie - and I get tired of saying that the weight of the gun, the batteries, and the ammunition would probably make you sink into the ground. Although after about 10 seconds of firing you'd be out of ammunition so you may be able to walk.But even so I'm enough of a kid to wish it was possible.😀 Edit: just remembered there was a 5.56 version produced at one point - can't remember if it ever got past the prototype stage though. Oops should have waited till the end shouldn't I.
19KGs is actually fairly man portable. Consider this with lithium batteries we can power it with a smaller form factor and ammo well you just need a backpack. You definitely won't be running with it though
3:38 "For financially minded people, think of it as firing $3000 of ammunition every 60 seconds"
This statement combined with the AK "cha-ching" clip from Lord of War is absolute genius 😆😆😆
Shut up and take my money!
Heavy TF2: Pathetic
I also half-expected the part from "Meet the Heavy" after that, where he's laughing his ass off
"It cost four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon for 12 seconds" -Heavy Tf2
I am heavy weapons guy and this is my weapon
Simple my friend :
1) We will cut from government budget fοr schools and hospitals.
2) We will increase the retirement limits
3) We will increase the taxies
And there.
No dummbass. It actually cost about $2000 to fire for 12 sec. Don't give false info if you don't know shtz u dummb fawk. Lmao.
@@stevenp3176 um yeah bud
@@stevenp3176 Yeah no bud
I love that scene from Predator where the men line up after spotting the monster and proceed to fire everything...Then he runs out of ammo and the barrel keeps spinning... such a badass movie
Only, the 'monster' is carrying a Plasma Cannon..
Timeless classic
You bring us the coolest facts, Johnny. I never considered the massive recoil from that many rapid blanks, those actors definitely got a workout.
I might be wrong, but don't blanks usually have more powder than live munitions?
@@nilsingvar7319 nope unless it’s used for firing projectiles.
@@Brownie.- Ah, thanks.
@@nilsingvar7319 They do, sometimes, have more powder. So they make a bigger flash for the camera. Blanks however do not produce recoil, and if they do it is very very little. The projectile leaving the barrel is where the recoil impulse is generated. In real life a person couldn't actually hold and fire a minigun. They weight 84 pounds, and require 24 volt power. Not to mention the weight of enough ammo for anything more than a fraction of a second of firing would be huge.
Make sense why Dutch and Blain were so ripped in Predator. Old painless had a kick.
BRRRYYTTT the gun.
Also, if you ever wondered why something so large is called MINIgun, it's because it's scaled down (miniaturised) version of aircraft 20mm vulcan multi-barreld cannon. Minigin like guns also exist in plethora of diffrent calibers, both smaller, and larger ( 4.7, 5.56, 9,14.5, 20, 25, even 30 mm. )
I saw once a video of a handheld minigun in .22 Magnum Rimfire. It was made with a battery powered drill, and some Ruger 10-22 parts and modding components.
Thanks, this is the only question I had and he didn't answer it. I just thought the name was sposed to be ironic.
@@carloshenriquezimmer7543 The funny thing is, while 22 short (not magnum) is essentialy a peashooter, good enough to hunt rats and small birds. In a gatling-configuration, it'd be powerfull enough for combat, as long as the Rate of Fire is high enough. The issue would be the powersupply and ammunition.
But, in a Sci-Fi Fantasy setting, that could be solved with a 'Magic Core' and a 'Bag of Holding'...
I've never heard of one in 4.7, seems like it could actually be usefuldo you know where I can find information on that?
@@abowden556 IIRC there is american company called "empty shell" that makes handheld ( well, as much as you can make mnigun "handheld" :P ) mini- and micro-guns in small calibers.
I remember seeing a video of someone firing an actual, live ammo minigun from the hip. It was a really short burst with maybe 3-4 rounds hit anywhere near the target before the muzzle was way off target. You could see the shooter physically skid back on the dirt a few inches as they tried to retain balance. Not an infantry weapon by any means.
It must feel like trying to hold a motorcycle in place while you give it a bit of throttle
Ang a pole in the ground with a sledgehammer. Problem solved
3:40 you missed a good opportunity to sneak in a TF2 reference!
Great video, the minigun is a classic in both movies and games!
*Laughs in Heavy*
It cost $400,000 to fire this weapons for 3 minutes. Or something.
@@lars573 12 seconds
@@coffee0093 3 minutes is more realistic though.
@@lars573 TF2 is a cartoon game
“ How many bullets do you want on target?”
Minigun: Yes
The minigun will always have a practical place in the movies. Whether handheld or vehicle mounted it makes for great cinema.
An actual PLOT makes for great cinema, not special effects BS...
Fun Fact: Genndy Tartakovsky (Samurai Jack, Primal, etc) was brought in to storyboard the Iron Man & War Machine vs Hammer Drones battle scene. Allegedly when someone on staff congratulated him for "Graduating to Live-action", he told the person to 'Go Fuck Yourself'. That is Gendy's dedication to the medium of animation.
Aren't those action scenes 90% computer generated anyway? Not exactly live action
Old Painless from the first Predator movie is the first time the M134 Minigun was ever seen on film if I recall. Jesse Ventura had experience with the real thing, which is why he handled it.
I recall the crew, armorer used a motorcycle 🏍 battery not a car battery in the Mexico set location.
Even the MG-42 was considered to big of an ammo hog and it fired a 1200rpm which is why most modern squad machine guns are around 600rpm.
There is a great scene in the extras for Terminator 2 where the director test fired the minigun and with a huge shit eating grin he turned to the people behind him and said "Arnold is going to love this.
So could you produce a practical man portable minigun with modern materials motors and batteries? Yes you could, Should you? Probably not.
You could, but it wouldn't be good for anything. When I was in the army, our preference was to switch to a slower gas setting (on the FN MAG), not a faster one. You're far more likely to find yourself wishing that you had more ammo than wishing that your MG fired faster. Ten shots per second is already plenty.
But I thought wars are won by looking cool
@@user-ty2uz4gb7v Don't know about you but if I saw someone calmly walking towards me firing one of these it would defiantly be brown trouser time time.
Not really, only russian weapons has low RoF for their GPMGs/MMGs/SAWs, the NATO arsenal are mostly 720~900 rpm around after M60s
Higher RoF have superior short time suppression over the slow RoF one(this one rely prolong firing to suppress), funny enough, that even MG42 RoF is considered a waste of ammo, the modern MG3 is still in service by many country, the military just don't really plan to have a slow RoF GPMG, at least not the NATO
The M134 had a baby brother, the Microgun, a 5.56 version of 10 barrels with a maximum ROF at 10,000. Years ago one of my brothers had a dear lease in our home state of TX where the owner was part of the original R&D team at Aberdeen for the M134. His part in development was in ammo feed, the receiver and delinking.
Fun Fact: For many years ID4 held the record for most blanks fired during a production. I recently discovered that number to be over 300,000!!
The xm214 microgun has 6 barrels. Some versions of the gatling gun had up to 10.
Pretty much the only depiction of a handheld minigun which can be considered to be in the realm of "realistic" is when it's held by a terminator.
You could get away with it with like, an exosuit, a smaller caliber, like 5.56 i've seen actual dudes fire that with live rounds... It didn't look pleasant. but it was possible... now for the big boy...youd need to be like, both strong and heavy like a damn professional wrestler because even if you were strong enough, you would just fall over... i believe those have about 300ish pounds of constant recoil when firing.
I am Heavy weapons guy, and this is my weapon. She weighs one hundred fifty kilograms and fires two hundred dollar, custom-tooled cartridges at ten thousand rounds per minute. It costs four hundred thousand dollars to fire this weapon for 12 seconds.
Is the M2 .50 Cal on your to-do list of topics?
All hail Ma deuce
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Hey Johnny, there's a minigun with a short set of barrels fired out of the sliding rear door of a Toyota Previa in the film 'Last Action Hero' just so you are aware. Keep up the phenomenal work, my friend 👍🏻
Nice attention to detail.
Good movie, and one of KILLEREST Sound tracks of any movie. IMO , only Heavy Metal's soundtrack might be better.
I like that you mentioned the Empty Shell XM556 Microgun at the end. Shows that there are those who want to make the handheld Minigun fantasy a reality.
I think there will always be a market for this sort of thing even if not overly practical haha
terminator 2 makes sense, Sarah may not have been anticipating a terminator to use it, but maybe had it for vehicle mounting for the future. considering he's a robot it makes sense he could handle it for the big engagement. it did not last long as well haha.
i think that's what makes it cool in the movie tho.. its at least somewhat believable
Absolutely
Had the occasion to see 3 of them in action on an AC47 Spooky late in 1968. Yes I’m that old.
Very cool
Great seeing you use a Spriggan clip. I remember the first time I saw footage of that movie as a kid and it was mashed up to some techno screaming the future is ours. Thanks for the nostalgia!
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i didnt realised it, but you made sense to this gun for "fast moving platforms" and not for "handheld bodybuilders"!
You d never see a US army soldier trained to hold and fire a "handheld"minigun...indeed !
The m134 was never meant to be man portable even when it was in its XM phase, some Hollywood asshole dreamed that up. In that assholes defense it wasn't till years later I realized how much logistical support it takes to even power it up.
As noted, in the early 1970s; SF teams R&Ded a few mini gun systems but none were practical, safe or able to function 💯 in field, jungle ops. I remember "Rock & Roll" from Hasbro's GI Joe carrying a new "mini gun" system in 5.56mm. He wore a heavy pack & the 6 5.56mm barrels were 💥. Rock & Roll toted a 30/30 lever action rifle too. 😉
@@benjamingamache6441 Have you ever heard about XM214?
@@kot0472 I'm sure that I've read about it. It's a 5.56 rotary gun, correct. Probably still took 2 or 3 car batteries to power it.
@@benjamingamache6441 Yeah, but the gun weighed only 10kg itself and it was intended to fire from hip with a backpack.
Apart from that i'm curious if it's possible to make such a gas-operated gatling, just like the Gsh-6-30, but fed with 7,62mm cartridge.
If this mechanism could be light enough to be able to carrying the gun? And if recoil with this action would be controllable?
There is a video of Rob Gronkowski shooting a handheld minigun at a range. I don't know which model it is, but man is it impressive
Some facts about the MG151 aircraft autocannon:-
The MG151/20 20mm autocannon, chambered in 20*82mm , was an upgrade over its MG151/15 chambered in 15*96mm.
It was the primary gun of the later versions of BF-109 , earlier ME-262 variants and other German fighter planes. It was also mounted into a X3 AA mount version of a SdKFZ 251 half track. Imperial Japan was also a user of this aircraft autocannon.
Fun fact, the gun was captured , reverse engineered and widely used by Portugal and France in their colonial wars. The French mounted it on a Mini pickup truck in their Algerian war campaign. Articles available in Tank encyclopedia.
The Portuguese were the first to mount MG 151/20 on their Alouette III helicopters during the Portuguese colonial wars, specially in Mozambique and Angolan stage.
The Rhodesians and South Africans were also primary users of the MG-151 autocannons. During international arms embargo on SA due to apartheid, South African armscor-Vektor company reverse engineeed the MG-151/20 Into a more simplified and modern version called the Vektor GA-1 rattler autocannon, which also have double feed features and can be fired by manual configuration or by an electronic plug setup. This configuration is also available for SAAF and Rhodesian air force Alouette III helicopters and later the SAAF denel Ah-1 rooivalk helicopter.
France, Portugal and South Africa , nevertheless still have modernised versions of MG-151/20 autocannons , made by both Nexter and Vektor respectively.
why is it not at all surprising to find the rhodesians using this stuff
@@sabotabby3372 Rhodesia most likely got it from Portugal ,whom they were cooperating with in Mozambique colonial war .
@@sabotabby3372 also Rhodesians were involved in the North African and European theater of WW2 (specially on the Italian and Balkan frontier) as a part of commonwealth forces .
@@patriotenfield3276 settler/fascist states stick together ig
@@sabotabby3372 Rhodesian was all but not a fascist. It indeed is a fascist because you have zero ideas of what fascism even is.
the recoil with live ammo be impossible to hold unless you got the strength of a gorilla. even with blanks it's very difficult for a very strong man
Fun fact: when the first mini guns were put on Russian airplanes the recoil was so strong that it would damage the jet by over time compressing the metal around it
Gronk can do it
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Was actually about to go to sleep lol, Johnny vids come first
@@thekhoifish0146 haha same!
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I love the Terminator hip firing the minigun because it implies he is super heavy. there are a few other indications that he weighs as much as a car, but it adds to the illusion of the story i think. i've heard complaints that firing a minigun from the hip is impossible due to constant recoil, but that is only true for Bill Duke in predator or a normal human. The Terminator is a crazy future robot! He could easily be heavy enough to absorb the recoil, and he stands in a wide stance. You wouldn't even need exotic materials to create a robot the size of a human that is dense enough. The lightest platform i've seen for a minigun is a dune buggy. I know a guy who owns a minigun, and he didn't want something massive to mount it on, so he welded a steel tube dome on his dune buggy that transfer the recoil down to the frame and to the wheels. from what i remember, the buggy had super stiff coil over suspension (not leaf springs). I watched the gun fire full bursts with my own eyes though, and it was plenty stable. that dune buggy could not have been more heavy than a Terminator robot! I will add that the buggy was only allowed to fired along its major axis to avoid excessive rocking side to side, and it was never fired while the buggy was in motion. it was literally just a convenient way for the owner to take his minigun to the range and fire it. if you think about it, its kind of genius because setting one up without that kind of platform would have an insane nightmare of finding a spot, making sure your anchor will be solid, bolting it down, checking the bolts, then reversing everything when you go home.
Important note about Resident Evil though, is that it is wielded by Nemesis, who is a genetically engineered, lab-grown freak of nature, is essentially a fleshy terminator. If anyone(anything?) could wield a minigun, its him. I also imagine carrying a backback full of ammunition is far more practical for a super-strong organism with no sense of fatigue.
The extra humming sound they used for the mini gun in predator was an excellent touch.
I liked the part where the mini gun barrel was still spinning & smoking but had no rounds left. It was a clever way of saying: we have advanced weapons but they too may fail or run out....
These handheld versions actually do exist in real life. My cousin served in Afghanistan and got to fire one.
T2 Helicopter pilot: "That's a damn minigun!"
Every LAPD officer on the ground: "Ooh ooh! I wanna see!"
a funny and somehow ironic thing about Miniguns is how they are portrayed in games like COD. The minigun was specifically designed not only to fire an insane amount of lead per second but the the 6 barrel design meant that the gun wont suffer from overheating as much as a single barreled machine gun since not only the barrels take turn firing but the revolving motion also lets the barrel cool down by the air. But in games like COD, the minigun is portrayed as a gun that easily overheats after 30 seconds of continues firing.
Pet peeves in video games: 1) multi-barrelled gun oveheats. 2) multi-barrelled gun needs time to spin up.
It's a misconception that miniguns have multiple barrels so that they wouldn't overheat. In reality they have multiple barrels in order to multiply the fire rate while a single barrel is still shooting at a rate comparable or over that of a regular machinegun.
As said in the video, they're designed for fast moving platforms to maximize the amount of lead sent down the range over a few second burst. They absolutely will overheat in continuous firing.
The Mini-Gun was Favored by Blain in the Movie Predator and in Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon it Pays Homage to the Predator Franchise in the 1st Mission Entitled No Time to Bleed which References the quote From the Movie and the Mission Puts you in A Chopper with A Minigun while Blasting "Long Tall Sally" by Little Richard.
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Thanks for mentioning what the cost of fireing one of these things is, it's something that gets ignored too often in arguments about these kinds of weapons, heck even a conventional LMG or MMG would cost something like 400 to 600 dollars a minute to fire.
One former reason to join the real Military, the combat arms :). If I added up all the ammo I fired while I was in , it would have run over $2million easy and that is in 1980's-1990's dollars. You're never gonna get the chance to shoot off that much money in bullets any other way unless you/your family is obscenely rich.
The M134 was actually quite problematic. GE was never able to perfect the de-linking mechanism, and, it jammed ALL the time. It wasn't until Dillon Aero stepped in, with their redesigned M134A1, with a working de-linker, that it became an effective weapon.
The GE one also fired at 6000 rpm opposed to the tuned down 3000 rpm that replaced it, and it was developed 40 years earlier without modern precision manufacturing
So there is good reasons why it would jam regularly
When I was riding around in Hueys in West Africa, the old timers told me I should listen to "Flight of the Valkyries", but I'd always put on "Long Tall Sally" instead, it was a generational thing. Great video Johnny, as always.
It’s time to rewatch Black Hawk Down again. Thank you, Johnny, always a pleasure!
A very rewatchable film! Enjoy
As usual, the detailed information is excellent, thanks man. Have a good weekend.
A good video to demonstrate the pure weight and recoil is when Rob Gronkowski shot one at a firing range. You can see him struggle to hold it steady even being the massive athlete he is.
It is my opinion that the Cyberdyne minigun scene in Terminator 2 is the greatest action scene in film history. Sights, sound effects, music. Everything perfect.
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Unexpected topic was and very welcomed!
I want a movie where the Big muscle guy grabs a minigun from a mount and they play it for absolute realism... the recoil, and torque from the barrels spinning, knock him over.....
Very informative-and very cool. Good vid.
thanks for showing Castle Wolfenstein at end, its appreciated, lol. loved that game and then Doom n Doom II later.
The 'ka-ching' sound had me laughing
Looks cool in the movies...with blanks. I test fired one out of the window of an HH-53C helicopter, Air Rescue. over the North Sea. No blanks. I weighed 215 lbs., and it was all I could do to keep it aimed at the wooden target. The recoil is a lot. Arnold would have his hands full with anything other than blanks, and those were probably minimal loads at that.
As always a joy to watch. You should have so many views. I'll keep watching. Subscribed.
I was issued one of these about 20 years ago during my first tour in Iraq, it's fun to fire but is definitely not man portable. Between the gun, ammunition and 24 volt power supply you're looking at well over 200 lbs.
RE: Your inquiry as to the practical handheld application,
When used in conjunction with a Boston Robotics "Dog" could make it possible.
Hey, great video as usual. Recoil: Firing ONE 7.62 round from an M14 kicked like a mule! And they're firing 1000+ plus rounds-per-minute hand-held? Great visuals, but ain't gonna work in the real world. That gun's gonna jump right outta your hands! Even the old Thomson firing .45s had a rep for the barrel climbing at a much lower cyclic rate of fire.
Some crazy have made handheld version, 5,56mm.
That thing is impossible to handle.
UA-cam has a video where people try it with 10 rounds loaded. As soon as they pull the trigger the recoil swoop the gun.
Minigun mounted on a dinosaur 😂 It doesn’t get better than this.
It may not have any practical use as a hand held weapon, but still love the thing. Maybe I could mount a .556 version on my SUV!
almost made me shed a tear when you showed the last samurai scene 😭
Predator Mini Gun scene ....one of the greatest weapons demos of all time....would be more than willing to carry the weight for a moment like that. Go Jesse Ventura!!!
A bit of trivia. The XM133 is a 7.62x51mm self-powered gas operated 6-barrel minigun, but it was never put into production. The XM214 'Microgun' is the 5.56x45mm variant of the M134. And, the GAU-19 is a 3-barrel .50 BMG variant.
Great video!
"It cost $400000 to fire this weapon for 12 seconds" -Heavy Weapons Guy, Team Fortress 2.
I love how it has zero recoil handheld i bet you can balance a beer on the barrel lol
Hey Johnny I got a very great video for you to cover, and that would be the H&K 93. This gun is sadly not remembered much, but it is seen in the films of Rambo first blood, parts of Black Hawk Down, and as well there is also a scene where you see it even having the optical attachment in the movie The Thing. In fact I am having a video on it very soon on August 7th, although it is pretty much covering the Vector V93, the two guns are pretty much the same. If you want you can use some of the footage of me firing the gun if you want or as well me taking the part the gun, since there are rarely any films that I know of that actually even have this gun in there. As well I do talk a little bit about the history and background of the HK 93. And the weird thing is I do at the badass out here this gun was actually used the majority by a large amount of American police forces, is a type of assault rifle, but as well also a type of makeshift sniper rifle.
Bro was speaking straight facts throughout the entire video💀.
But still....hand wielding a minigun is badass, that's one way to earn respect in video games.
"Most squad level machine guns don't fire over 1000 rounds per minute"
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I loved using the Mini Gun in GTA: San Andreas...
Cleaned out the Balla 'Hoods in no time flat
Would it be feasible with a exoskeleton though? I suppose the super high rate of fire would still be overkill for a squad weapon.
You could, but in pretty much any situation you'd probably rather have a more accurate regular machine gun and lots of extra ammo.
That's the lore behind Fallout's mini-gun, and all the other big weapons (like the Fatman or Gatling laser). They were designed to be used by a dude in power armour as a squad support weapon.
Exoskeleton would only help you to carry it, but not shoot it. The recoil would still throw you off.
@@XtreeM_FaiL A advanced one could. You could have something connect to the minigun or your hand and counteract the recoil.
@@XMysticHerox Like an APC or a tank.
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What, no Doom 2 minigun footage Johnny?? 🤔😉😆 But seriously another great video mate!
I remember reading in Mike Durant's bio "In the Company of Heroes", that after his Blackhawk was shot down over Mogadishu, it was so maddening that at that time he was faced with the fact that the miniguns on either side of the chopper had no independent electrical power source. So once the bird was crashed down, and the aircrafts batteries were disconnected or dead, so were the mini guns. If these were still able to be operated he may not have been captured, and his crew and MOH winners Shughart and Gordon might still be alive.
That's absolutely right! Damn I wish I had mentioned that now. Great info!
You forgot the minigun mounted on Robocain (Robocop 2, 1990).
The gau12 25mm of the Harrier in True Lies (1994).
The M134 with ironsight in The Matrix (1999).
Insightful and eloquent as ever.
I thought this was a re upload. I feel like I heard you say before on how a person can't carry and shoot the minigun. Next gun should talk about is the Famas. I like that gun.
It's fresh but could be something I yapped about briefly in another video :)
A thing that a lot of people get wrong with the minigun is referring to it as a Gatling gun. This is wrong because the Minigun is a scaled down M61 Vulcan rotary cannon, the minigun being automatically driven makes it a machinegun or rotary machine gun. A Gatling gun is not a machinegun because it's manually operated aka not an automatic weapon. It is in the same weapon category as older volley guns, and is considered a type of artillery.
Only time I ever saw a minigun, presumably the M-134, was during a training FTX at the JRTC in Fort Polk way back when I was in the Army in my waning days to collect a DD-214. A unit that came for training had a vehicle mounted one. The safety was a screwdriver wedged into the barrels. Never saw them fire it and the armorer was watching it like a hawk. Other than that, I've only seen them in movies as we'd never use them in Iraq since we had the ma deuce, M-240, and M-249 for our trucks, M-249s at checkpoints and towers. They're a huge maintenance liability and a waste of ammo unless you're CAG or SWCC boats doing an exfil for SEALs and want to make a nice show of force.
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When i saw Terminator 2 i had never heard or seen a minigun. So when the chopper pilot said "Thats a Stamp-ini gun" i honestly for the longest time thought thats what it was called "
Thank you cool video
My take away was a m134 mounted to a t800 is completely feasible.
What a nice video to wake up to!
7:51 not my favorite movie but one of the better depictions of a CIWS in action
I can say good video and already knew that weapon would be impossible IRL still cool in the movies and maybe for a next video you can do 1 on the infamous Tec-9 as an idea.
Even the 2017 XM556 you'll need a freakishly large pack of ammo and a battery on your back, and have a strong man body build just to control it's power.
The Soviets also had a counterpart for the M134 minigun, called the GshG 7.62 , chambered in 7.62*54mm. They also have 23mm and 30mm Gatling guns designed by the GshG bureau. The Chinese also have a 14.5 mm Gatling gun.
In Predators the Russian soldier Nikolai was supposed to use a GshG 7.62, but I think they couldn't get one for the movie. So they had him use an M134, like in the first Predator
The only time it really made sense was in Terminator because he is for all intents and purposes (let's not get into technicality pedantics now) a robot where strength isn't an issue. I don't have a huge problem with people using medium machine guns shouldered or on the move provided it's done realistically. They are very heavy but in a pinch these things are possible, as long as it's not portrayed as some kind of standard practice but rather an 'in a pinch' niche circumstance. The entire premise of a minigun though is that you need to guarantee hitting something in which either you, the target or both are moving at very high speed and you only have a very, very short window of exposure. Basically why a lot of modern fighter aircraft guns and point-defense systems use ultra-fast rotators, they get a few percent's of a second to fill every square inch of space with a round before their exposure window has elapsed.
“Thats a Damn MINIGUN!!”
I watched one of the episodes from Oban: Star-Racers, wherein one of the opponents has a huge gatling-like machine gun equipped underneath its “wings”. Just wanna mention that.
That would have been cool in include!
Ask anyone to carry around an outboard engine for 20 minutes, then ask if they still want a handheld mini gun. LOL
I am quite impressed you used a scene from Spriggan. I wish that anime movie received the attention and love that it deserves.
The 6000 rounds per minute is only possible in fixed aircraft mounts or pods with LINKLESS feed systems and a higher rpm motor. The best example of such a high rate of fire was those miniguns mounted on the AC47 Spooky gunship. The average rate of fire is between 1500 and 3000 rounds per minute for flexible mounts.
Yah that's good to point out
I flew UH-1C Huey gunships that were armed with miniguns. 1 on each side of the aircraft, mounted on pylons. Our guns were set to fire 2,400 rpm with an automatic shutoff after 3 seconds. If the guns were aimed far left or right, the inboard facing gun would shut off, while the outboard facing gun would increase its rate of fire to 4,000 rpm. We carried about 6,000 rds. of ammo.
When i worked in Theatrical Ordnance , we got a original M134 in.. And yeah we tried shooting it offhand with live rounds (Norinco 7.62 x 51 as it was $120 a case of 1000 at the time).. half a second was the most we could hold it on target before it walked at 4000 rpm...
That would be a very fun job
You missed the fact youd have to be standing out in the open to fire this thing, making it a bullet magnet
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Don’t think the mini gun will ever be good for handheld use but maybe the phased plasma rifle in forty watt range will be.
When Zombies hordes come knocking on your door, a Minigun would be the ideal weapon, until you ran out of ammo.
Issue is that a handheld version would in practice not be better than any existing GPMG or squad automatic.
You'd surely be able to carry enough ammo and spare barrels for the same weight as a portable minigun to achieve more fire sustainability than the portable minigun.
There could perhaps be a case for a gas driven version, those don't need a external power source as they're more akin to conventional weapons, so they're overall lighter than their electrical equivalents
I am heavy weapons guy, and this is my weapon, she weighs 150 kilograms and fires 200$ custom tool cartridges at 10000 rounds per minute, it costs 400000$ to fire this weapon.. for 12 seconds.
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James Cameron said the minigun in "Terminator 2" was detuned from its original, much faster firing speed so it would be possible to see the individual flashes from the barrel. He also said, "the guys who loaned us that gun weren't happy about seeing Arnold drop it on the floor next to him." Apparently, they thought the Terminator should have gently set it down on a pillow or something. :)
Worst case the just pay for it to be fixed....
In Black Ops 2, you can carry 2 Miniguns at once.
Local guy bought a minigun from us about 1998. Once the form 4 came back we took it out to run a few belts through it. I used a VHS camcorder and every burst caused the video to vibrate so bad it was blurry.
Every so often someone - I suspect a kid - puts a question On Quora about why don't we use many guns like they did in the predator movie - and I get tired of saying that the weight of the gun, the batteries, and the ammunition would probably make you sink into the ground. Although after about 10 seconds of firing you'd be out of ammunition so you may be able to walk.But even so I'm enough of a kid to wish it was possible.😀
Edit: just remembered there was a 5.56 version produced at one point - can't remember if it ever got past the prototype stage though. Oops should have waited till the end shouldn't I.
19KGs is actually fairly man portable. Consider this with lithium batteries we can power it with a smaller form factor and ammo well you just need a backpack. You definitely won't be running with it though