Quick Tip: Is It OK to Store Magazines Loaded?
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- The debate has raged, probably since the invention of the first detachable box magazine. Can you store a loaded magazine for long period of time? Or will the spring fail and lose its ability to feed reliably? Brownells Firearm Support Tech Caleb Savant weighs in. Modern high-quality tempered magazine springs will take a bit of a set, Caleb says, but after that they can sit loaded for a VERY long time before they fail. Springs wear out more from use - many repeated compression/expansion cycles - than from being stored compressed. In fact, loaded mags have sat for many DECADES, and then fed just fine when used! Caution: You get what you pay for; cheaply made mags may have cheap, poorly tempered springs, and they may fail after long-term loaded storage.
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I absolutely love when a video doesnt take 19 minutes to make a very simple point. Just goes straight to the answer. So refreshing.
Also no blaring crap music to knock you out of your chair.
Interwebb comment winner!
This comment should have 100k thumbs up.
I bail on videos that milk view time.
I was about to type that exact thing until I saw u already did
You put out more useful information in 93 seconds than most channels do in 25 to 30 minutes.
This is why I love Brownells!
Yes, I was shocked. Just subbed.
I dis agree
@@ACommenterOnUA-cam Seriously?
Yeah, wild how they just get to the point and give you the relevant info rather than start with 10 mins of “this is why we decided to make this video” crap 😂
I keep my magazines unloaded all the time. For extra measure of safety, i removed the bullets from shell casings and unloaded the gun powder for safety reasons. No tension problems and no live rounds to worry about.
lol
Please tell you took the primer out of the casing as well, for extra safety measures... lol
That’s a good idea, I usually store my ammo separate across town miles away but am still worried they somehow will make it into the gun and misfire. Safety first everyone!!
@@paultasker9759 that's amazing, safety is a lifestyle!
I swallow all the primers for safe keeping, then regurgitate them when needed.
Good Tip. I am by profession a Metallurgical Engineer. There are various grades of steel produced. Mild grade steel is a soft steel used for extreme deformation as in stamping. The steels used in the springs are called what else... Spring Steels. These are high carbon grade steels that when heat treated, are quenched to create fine morphology which can have bainite and pearlite. The microstructure of the steel will not transform into another structure as long as the steel is not subjected to temperatures exceeding 1200 F. And yes, if you buy inferior grade steel not processed properly, the spring steel may not retain their original dimensions.
Yes! Thank you!
Say, any of you boys smithies? Or, if not smithies per se, were you otherwise trained in the metallurgic arts before straitened circumstances forced you into a life of aimless wanderin'?
Thank you, always like to hear the explanation from an expert.
Blah blah blah. Look at me using a bunch of words. Blah blah blah.
@@jaredjohns9302 O.B.W.A.T. Awesome!
keep a revolver around to protect your unloaded magazines.
True two of them at that
😆
rick trogdon hahah
Mr. Saturday night special
LMAO!😂🤣🤣
I have fired 2 1911 magazines straight from iwo jima.
I know I wasted part of history, but it was my great grandfathers and having returned from combat for the third time I felt like understood him in a way nobody else could have.
So I took his gun to the range and fired magazines that had been stored in his bandolier and his uniform for decades.
Was as if it was brand new, the powder smelled a bit different than I am used to. But it was a really cool experience.
I know this is not the same but I sometimes take my grandfather's old S&W 6 inch revolver and shoot a few rounds. Mine is 115 years old now so I don't do it much. Gotta love the old stuff.
J Hutch
That’s really cool! Thanks for sharing.
You get to pretend to be a gunslinger for a bit?
History or not, that was probably as much an honor for your grandfather as it was for you. Totally worth it IMO.
@@jackbartley968 I went to Iraq twice and you are absolutely right. It's hard talking to those that haven't experienced and seen what we have.
Actually you're lying Becasue i know everything about guns becasue one time when I was 13 I played call of duty and shot my uncles bb gun.
😐 this is satire.
I clicked on this video 100% expecting to be told that I'm doing it wrong and why, and was pleasantly surprised that storing loaded mags is not destroying the spring. Awesome!
My buddy swears I shouldn't because of x,y,and Z. None of it made a lick of sense and he couldn't provide facts.
It's just practical. In an emergency situation, no one is going to load 10-30 rounds before firing it.
I have a few Magpul magazines that I store loaded. They were the first magazines I bought with my gun. It's safe to say that they function just fine now after more than a decade of use. And I use them several times a year. I literally buy ammo, load my mags, and a few weeks or months will go by and I'll hit the range, rise and repeat.
If they aint loaded they aint worth anything.
Truth.
@@libtardgunlover762 lmao thats a good point sig should send theirs out fully loaded at damn near 50 a mag
Having a speed loader is a good idea also. Many can be made with wood in the home with a few tools.
Exactly !
Same with bullets
Having to load a gun when there is an emergency is like having to replace your car's spark plugs before driving a seriously injured person to a hospital!
Of course have some loaded mags. You don't need 25 loaded mags tho.
No. Thats like having to get gas before heading to er. So always keep gas in the tank
@william dohn rain is in the forecast
You leave the spark plugs in your engine???
I've heard it's like putting your seatbelt on right before your car crashes.
Holy cow, someone who actually knows the metallurgy and physics behind springs. And for those who can't use facts, but have to have experience, I have all of Dad's guns with original mags that have been loaded since 1950 and all are as good as new. You don't put your car up on jack stands every night after work. You don't disassemble all your door knobs between use to protect the centering spring.
As someone that has a background in mechanical tech as well as someone who worked in a gun shop for 6 years with a lifetime spent around firearms, some of the shit I hear people say is absolutely hilarious. Usually these videos and subsequent threads are a minefield of ignorance.
Hahahahahaha, that's great. I've tried to point this out to people before about other springs in their guns that tend to stay compressed but the car analogy is brilliant.
Though you might want to unload those mags if they've been loaded since 1950, wouldnt want any corroded rounds.
I pointed out in another comment, I had a few 13 round .45 ACP mags loaded full for 15 years. Went to the range and worked just fine. I even did a 5 round rapid fire test and no issues.
It’s not just about the spring wear, it’s also about the feed lips on certain polymer magazines getting slightly bent out of shape. That’s why some people will down load to 28 or 29 rounds on a 30 round mag.
Don't buy cheap mags.
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.
HA!
can i use that one it,s gggggggreat
I see what you did there.
Long answer: YEE HAW
Lol
An unloaded gun is a useless gun. Always be prepared.
Back in the early 80’s when I was a kid my dad was shot in front of our home by someone trying to rob him. We had a family business at the time.
We had guns in the house but all were kept unloaded. My older brother went to get one then was looking for the ammo. By that time it was too late.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst
Unless its a high point you can club the person while loading your mag 😆😆😆
I am really sorry to hear that. Must have been terrible. Definitely is something that people should have in mind too when deciding where (and how) to keep the weapon
What’s an unloaded gun? First rule is “the gun is always loaded”
Elias Bram I was 6. It was terrifying to see my dad and hero like that. I can picture it like it was yesterday. The guys were hiding by our front door bushes. Every night my sister and I would run to the front to turn the lights on before my dad got home. This night we were pushing each other to go turn on the lights. We were scared to but didn’t know why.
Very important to have your guns ready, and please teach your young ones gun safety as early as possible. Be safe everyone ✌🏽
Now I'm going to probably sound stupid for saying this but in airsoft (I own both airsoft and actual firearms) the mags used are also a spring based system, actually airsoft goes out to replicate weapons very close to the actual thing just smaller projectiles, and no gun powder, still all metal and gas operation. I bring this up because they practice the opposite standard because apparently it wears out the springs and then they dont feed properly because the mag springs are the only thing they haven't made quality and remains cheap garbage, however this makes me thank God that we actually have quality magazines that can stay loaded and prepared, I couldnt image if my weapon didnt fire or jammed all because the magazine was left loaded for 3 months. Thank God for quality springs
Thanks for getting right to the point, and not having a super long intro and a bunch of fluff talk. Cheers!
Back in the dark ages, in Navy boot camp, we were taught to store the magazine with a partial load. The 1911 could hold 7 rounds, but were stored with 5.
I sense some pearson wisdom. From rdr2 lol . but thats a solid teach
I think that's a myth.
the navy….lol
@@c1arkj No, it's true. They kept the M-14 magazines in the master at arms shack on the aircraft carrier I served on loaded with only 15 rounds.
@@11binfantryfollowmeus.army95
ikr? They only produce the baddest warriors this planet has ever seen.
I have kept my magazines loaded for 5 plus years and nothing is wrong with them
@@nohandle74 yes I do haha
MAYHEM MIKE or he might have a lot of magazines like I do. I have a rule to buy 2 times the amount of magazines I think I may ever need.
How do you know there's nothing wrong if you haven't used them for 5 years?
has gun will travel, not a bad rule to have
I have had magazines loaded for years, but rotated with fresh ones every so often. Even a round or two short from full capacity. The short of full capacity was something taught at a young age. Newer information helps me get more input on the newer developments. I was taught by a military father of 50’s and 60’s training and technology.
I am surprised, I am so used to clueless UA-camd giving bad information. This video shocked me with its accuracy. I am also used to 12 minute videos where the person blah blah blahs for 11 minutes and answers the question at the end. Well done.
I'm with you. This was good.
Boom. This^.
So sick and tired of drudging through 20-30 min vids only to find the answer at the end. Who the hell has time to spend on those? I Would never get anything done if I watched them all the way through.
Very f----ng well said. So many "please like and subscribe" youtubers that make 18 minute videos for issues that could be summed up in a minute.
I am confused. If all you get is bad information from these videos mostly, how do you know when you get good info, unless you already knew it was good to begin with. And how do you know the bad is bad? If you could make a video on learning how to learn if something corresponds to what you already believe to be correct before you learn it, that would be a great help. Then I can only listen to stuff I already know is right and won't have to bother with learning anything new, because that stuff is garbage unless I already knew it in the first place. Thanks in advance and I already subscribed and liked the video that you may or may not make.
this was my exact feelings also!
Many years ago, sitting in a metallurgy 101 class, we were looking at the stress/strain graph of some alloy. Starting from unstressed metal you go through the elastic range, within which the metal will return to its original shape when unstressed. Then you reach the elastic limit, beyond which the metal will not return to its original shape. The professor commented at that point that with repeated stress, the elastic limit will drop. So you can't stress it as much and expect it to return to its original shape. As it turns out, pretty much the only use I have ever had for that information is with magazines. I never fully load a magazine and if I'm going to leave it loaded for an indefinite time, I never go over 80% capacity. I have no idea whether this is necessary or not, but I have 18 year old magazines that I've kept loaded and used more times than I can remember and I've never had a problem with them. So my point would be in an emergency, a partially loaded magazine is going to be a lot more useful than an empty one.
I just fired a13 round .45 ACP mag I had loaded for 15 years. Every shot perfect, no issues. Even did a rapid fire test of 5 rounds. There may be some spring tension weakening, but it's not significant enough to keep the mag from working. So I've decided it's just better to keep my mags fully loaded and ready when I need them most.
@@c1arkj So it hadn't been emptied and loaded again in all that time? That makes sense. What the professor was talking about was repeated cycling, loading and unloading, my other "precautions" were my own idea. If you're not going to be using a magazine for an extended period, there's probably no benefit to leaving them partially loaded like I sometimes do.
Your car sits in the driveway everyday without its springs being relieved....stuff those mags people.
No point in an empty. Even if you wanna kinda meet in the middle and say only load 25 in a 30 round mag to kinda leave some space or load 12 in a 16 mag if they’re being stored
That is a truly well thought out analogy!!!!! I never thought of that!!!!
I've made that exact same analogy before. You car's springs wear out from USE, not from being compressed. The same applies to magazines.
Your car doesn't sit with the springs fully compressed.
@@ricksaunders3889 no but your 1200lb car sits on springs
I can’t be the only one who regardless of what he said was still gonna leave my mags loaded.
Geneo Trexler
Or that comment making sense.
Geneo Trexler
Not sure what you were trying to type there but I hope whatever it was you needed you got help with.
Right. Even if it was detrimental mags are cheap. If wearing out from load were the case I'd just replace/rebuild my mags every couple years at the same time I replace all the batteries in my red-dots, but that's not reality, you just replace them if/when they go bad, but that's more likely to be from physical damage than from the spring wearing out.
If we want to perpetuate the car analogies, it would be like jacking up the car every night by the frame to save the suspension instead of just letting it do what it was designed to do (support the weight of a car) and replacing it when it goes bad.
Same
I keep my sh*t fully loaded at all times,
This guy looks like your grandpa's buddy who helped him rebuild a Ford straight 6 back in 1972.
Straight six, best ford motor ever made. Dodge 318 is better though, calamity resistant. 😎
This is all you have to comment about? Go back and sit at the card table with the rest of the CHILDREN, and let the adults talk, ok?
@Bryce Czirr is that all you have? I would rather have a receding hairline than the IQ of a flea, given the intellectual level of your response.
Wishing I had the hair to pull off the same look..... 😥
@@wolfman9642 Mopar or no car
Good job Brownells. Short and to the point. I wish all channels were like you.
Short and sweet, no balogna, to the point. That's what we love about your vids
Such a shame, I lost all my mags with their corresponding guns..................
In the infamous boating accident of 20XX. I was lucky to escape with my life.
Crazy I was on that same boat
Ahh, @@AlphaOmega-cr3ld , I recall being on that boat with you. Such a shame.
😉
Alas. I was in the ocean near you when that large wave overtook all our boats...the guns, all my guns, were tragically lost forever
Same here, but I was aboard a different vessel.
The seas were starting to get choppy.
Then there was a downpour. The lightning was enough to make a grown man cry. And then it happened..... The vessel overturned, and all the guns and ammo I have ever owned went into the sea. We were able to get onto a lifeboat and escape with our lives.
Thanks for letting people know the truth about quality magazines. Instead of adding a bunch of fluff you got straight to the point. Thanks very much, well done.
the way YT used to be.
A few years ago I pondered this same question and I called MagPul in Colorado and they said the military has pre-staged ammo in loaded magazines that have been stored for 10+ years fully loaded with negligible mag spring degradation.
Having an empty mag is like having an empty fire extinguisher. of no use when you need it!
Nice.👍
Thanks for being quick and to the point.
I've always had little doubts whether or not I should keep my mags loaded, so hearing it from a professional really helps calm the nerves.
I always keep my DL44 blaster pistol loaded. It’s helps you “shoot first” when approached by a greedy, green bounty hunter.
-well played sir, well played.
Indeed
‘Yes I’ll bet you have’
Glad I wasn’t the only one that caught that.🤣
Now if only people would remember to keep their E-11 sighted
@@FEARSWTOR now we are getting DEEP. ;)
One day I came across a 1911 magazine that was loaded fully with 45 ammo. I loaded it 17 years earlier. I took it to the range and fired every round successfully without any problems.
Thank you. Was just sitting in front of the PC wondering about this. I know UA-cam tracks your usage, but didn't know it could read your MIND!!!
He stores his hair loaded, that shit is on point.
that look is truly from yesteryear, he went to a lot of effort to develop it
Really Happenings your assessment is right. My hair to looked like that in the early 1960s. Not so much now though.
that hair is trash
I’m so jelly of that hair. God I wish I had hair again. Now I have a permanent tactical head! It dries fast, it’s impervious to UV and you cannot grab it in a fight cause it will slip right out of your hands. Lol 😆
Epic Ranch... HOLY ****! THAT is the best comment of the day! I laughed my ass off! Go have a beer on me!
As long as you have decent quality mags it's perfectly OK to leave them loaded. If however you have some made by ProMag those are best loaded into the garbage can.
I'm not familiar enough to know if this is true, but reading it gave me a chuckle! Thanks!
@Steven Miller Hes talking about Promags being garbage. Pmags are not from them....they are from Magpul.
@@MrBrad777c reading comprehension is not a strong suit for some
@@kanaka118446 Lol....well folks are just itching to insult someones intelligence.....never really understood that. He's right about Pmags of course.....super reliable and affordable. As to Promag they are hit and miss.....some of their stuff is excellent but some is garbage for sure.
@@MrBrad777c my Beretta promag I got for my sub 2000 couldn't even load all 20 rounds and jammed my rounds every other shot so... I can confirm they are awful
Straight and to the point. A rare find on UA-cam. Thanks!
5 years in law enforcement...
My duty mags are loaded 24 hours a day 7 days a week...
I test my mags once a quarter at department qual and have never had one fail...
I have separate mags I train with because the abuse of using them is exponentially more damaging then storing them loaded....
Springs build memory from cycles of use not being under load...
Can't imagine the point of having magazines if they aren't loaded.
bad paper weight???
Horrible door stop?
Cool beer opener🤨
@@aceeastwood2871 Under rated reply.
That 50's look is awesome! Glad to see it coming back! Clean, honest looking young man! Hell I would hire him!
Yes! And why on other posts are there so many negative posts about this guy? Do not they believe in freedom?
He probably wouldn't work for you Dogg. Unless you had bagels 😉
You mean the greasy hair? He'll need to find a '50s woman. Lots of luck!
@Betty Better You're right that most guys weren't greasers in the 50s and 60s. But they *did* use Brylcreem and other gunk that made their hair *look* greasy, just like this guy's.
@Betty Better It's a matter of taste, but most women I know would *not* want to run their fingers through this guy's hair.
Would you?
robbers: you should not keep your mags loaded.
homeowner: that’s cool, my shotgun doesn’t use a magazine anyway
Lol
my ccw has hydra shoks in the gun and two back up fmj mags, and my nightstand gun has hydra shoks in the gun and three backup fmj mags. hoping i never need all that firepower, but don't want to get to that point and not have it
that is considered a mag btw
Most Shotgun do have magazine springs.
Quoth my engineer father,"Springs don't wear from compression, they wear from use."
Thanks Brownells for clearing up endless amounts of fuddlore.
I'm in Virginia. I've started keeping all my mags loaded and an AR in every vehicle.
100%
Ex Virginian, keep em at the ready. You know why. We know why. J.i.c.
I never dreamed I would see the day Virginia pursued unconstitutional gun laws like New York and California, Stay strong
@Jane Bang Democrats. Those in power and their voters.
Don't give them another inch, we've got your back. I'm praying for y'all
A great, concise and straight answer from a real straight shooter. No fluff. Thanks.
Great info! I was taught that spring weakening occurs mainly through compression and expansion cycles, not extended compression. I was looking for confirmation on this.
This is the best kind of informational video on UA-cam- straightforward, clear, well-reasoned, and to-the-point. Thanks for the information!!!!
he's right the springs are weakened when they are used loading and firing, worked. Just loaded isn't putting stress on them... steel is weakened when worked. Bend a piece of metal back and forth and it breaks eventually. Keeping tension on them doesn't weakened them. The molecules in the steel are tempered, strengthened. Heat treated... Steel can be brittle before that.
I found a loaded AK mag in my garage that sat there lost for more than TEN years, a buddy left it there when he went shooting with me, the old wolf ammo was even starting to rust, loaded it and it shot perfectly.
Tactical Mustache trash
@Tactical Mustache If you don't care too much about hitting your target at 100 yards (and are fine with just scaring him before he puts a round through your head), and if you are the sort of person who tends to treat their firearms like trash, then yes, AKs FTW.
Minute of Man accuracy at 100 yards may seem acceptable until you consider that if you are fighting anyone with a modicum of training or self-preservation who knows you are there, you probably won't see more than his head and part of his shoulder at 100 yards... and most people's heads aren't that big. This would have been fine for Ivan back in the day, since he had an entire squad and a BMP-2 backing him up. You probably don't have more than one other shooter and you definitely don't have a BMP-2 with a 14.5mm machine gun on it.
@@Schwarzvogel1 if you cant hit your target at 100 yds with an ak then either you're worthless at shooting or you have a very shitty example of an ak. Even IO trash can hit the target at that distance
That s a good point about springs wearing more from use than being loaded.
Anyone who has been around guns knows you get what you pay for.
I love how PO Ackley put it when asked about competitors underpricing him. He said it didn t bother a bit , they more than anyone knew the value of their work.
Straight and to the point, thank you and please keep these kinds of informative videos coming. Don’t need a 30 minute lecture to tell me what I need to know if it can be done in 90 seconds. Brevity is a trait lost on many in You Tube land, thank you! 👍
Gotta sell those ads
I'm digging the 50's hair-do. Now all you need is a leather jacket and some boots.
And a cigarette on top an ear.
@9mm Weiner this escalated quickly!
LuvBorderCollies with the rest of the pack stored rolled up in a T-shirt sleeve.
And a catch line like, “Aaayyyyyyy!”
@@Swiat34 That was my thought lol
I have 'sort of' kept mine loaded for years. I always load them until they are nearly full but leave off the last one or two rounds so the spring isn't fully compressed. I have no real data on it but it makes me feel good and if I can't hit the target with 28 rounds, then I'll stick in another 28. Thanks for the video!
SEA is where I started doing it. Now I am wondering if someone actually suggested it to us. In any case, it seems reasonable to not cram the last millimeter out of the spring compression.
Bingo!
Yes, a fellow from the Navy said he was trained to store magazine from a 1911 partially loaded, so you're correct.
DL44 Blaster Pistol - best reference I've heard in a while!
I have some AR mags that have been loaded while in college! 1984! Pulled two out and checked the ammo and took one mag down and used what I have always used a mixture of Graphite and 3 in 1 oil! Never fails and will alway be there!
Glad I spotted this video! I questioned the effect of long-term storage (ready to use) of loaded magazines. Great no bull presentation.
Excellent Star Wars reference (DL-44) my friend. Very well done.
A little Easter egg for you.
I was wondering if anyone else caught that lol.
Some people with feed issues may have used ammo with steel casing in a double stack magazine, and thought it was the mag spring. Good video.
God bless y’all.
Asked YT a question and seen this. NEVER have I got such a direct vid answer. 🙏🏻👊🏻
Seriously. I double down on @Lithus17’s comment. Finally a straightforward explanation without all the “fillers”.
Hold on....AND a tech line??
SUBSCRIBED!! 👍
Thank you, that was helpful. I always keep one mag loaded for each gun (even the ones in the safe), but mark the loaded ones with blue painter's tape so next time they get used, that mag gets a "rest" and another mag takes the loaded spot.
My concern was never on springs as much as prolonged pressure on polymer feed lips, however those dust covers Magpul pmags come with, press down and releave pressure prom the feed lips, I love them for long term storage
My dad kept an old Colt G.I. mag from when he was in the Army loaded for more than 30 years and it still works perfectly
Thanks for sharing. I have been storing my Glock 23's magazines loaded for around 25 years and I RARELY go shooting. But when I did some shooting recently they, worked flawlessly.
Hair and DL-44 reference.
Kudos.
And I thank you.
better to replace your springs every 20 years than throw empty mags at an intruder
My FEG HKK-45 has had full load since the 80's, still work great.
Nice. FEG is a Hungarian company, they have lot better quality than China.
In the Navy during the 90s our 45 mags was always loaded. The 45 and mags we had was 25 years or older. As a range couch I seen only one mag that broke during live fire. The bottom broke open and the spring and rounds fill out on the ground.
If anything, just download two rounds and you don't have to worry about anything. It's the last two rounds that put the most amount of stress on the spring.
And my fingers. I wanna thank whoever made mag speed loaders
@@Bestgameplayer10 Don't load rifle mags the same way you do pistol mags.
@@afluffypinecone3577 why are you telling me this
Han Solo's blaster, nice. Thanks for the tip, I've always wondered about this.
My Taurus mags were left loaded for 20 years. Only damage is that the spring compressed enough to allow easier loading to full capacity. Those springs were so tight that you could only load 12 into the 15 rnd mag. Mags still function just fine. Aluminum AR mags can begin to double feed if loaded too long.
I was given a partial box of ec43 marked box of .45 auto and a fully loaded 1911 mag a widow of a WW2 vet had left loaded all those years (she didn't know what became of the gun) the ammo in the mag matched the box, and was pretty dusty. Some friends and I shot that mag full thru an original WW2 Remington rand 1911. It was cold out, about 20° and there was real doubt if either ammo or mag would work, but it all worked without a hitch. We we're pretty impressed, she said the mag had been loaded since he came home from the war. At that time, about 2005 it had been loaded at least 65 years. There has to be truth in this.
Wow, one guy from the Navy said he was trained to store 1911 magazines partly loaded, something like 5 instead of 7 or 8.
I've always kept my mags fully loaded, never had any issues with any of them.
0:38 been storing my DL-44 Blaster magazines loaded for ages, no problems at all.
A long time ago at a gun range far far away.
Thanks for the quick tips, love short videos like this unlike other videos where it gets long winded.
DL-44 Blaster Pistol, now that’s funny right there. May the Force be with you!
Nice to know mags can still be interchangeable even in a galaxy far far away...
This is the way.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that caught that reference. Now if someone could tell me where I could procure a DL-44, I'll be all set.
This man? He gets me.
Richard Hebson ua-cam.com/video/s6EQQnkUGIk/v-deo.html
I love how non-fluff and straight forward this channel is.
I'm giving this vid a thumbs up just for dropping the DL-44 reference. Love It!!!
DL 44?
A hint that Brownells is going to make a modern broomhandle in 10mm?
WOOOOOO!
(DL 44 was Han Solo's sidearm.)
Allen Cameron That’s why he mentioned the broomhandle.
Every time I return from the range, I always load up a total of 75 rounds until my next range trip, I never saw a problem with it, and even if it does malfunction it will be @ the range anyway, so I feel comfortable leaving mines loaded. Great video and thanks for the confirmation, stay strapped, stay safe, stay dangerous
A GOOD tip I got from a Ranger Sgt was to load AR mags with 28 rounds and the spring never got a problem even left loaded more than one year !
That's not why he was taught to do that. Joes often misunderstand the reasons for things and develop myths when rumors get passed around. The reason some people load mags one or two rounds short is to make it easier to insert on a closed bolt or slide.
@@chopinbloc Yes that as well. Thank you
Go clean your compass
@@garypiont6114 ?????????????????????????????
@@chopinbloc nailed it! I used to be a Joe, I was taught wrong initially but when I was training Joes I like to think I put a dent in the madness by teaching some correctly!
Thanks. You just confirmed my long held opinion on this subject. Well made video.
Wow this video format is like a blast from the past. Love it.
That hair is old school as hell!
Props my man, props!
Good advice! Thanks!
In the immortal words of John Wayne, "Well, a gun that's unloaded and cocked ain't good for nothin'."
Thanks for the vid!
makes for an ok club though lol
Gotta love Rooster Cogburn.
I'm really digging these Quick Tips. Thank you!
Some years ago I was given my late grandfather's pistol, a Beretta PB100, he had purchased back in the 1950's. It had the sales slip in the box which showed he had purchased the pistol and a box of ammo. The box of ammo was there, missing 9 rounds, and there were 9 rounds in the mag. He had never fired it. I lubed it and took it to the range, and every round fed and fired. This was in the mid '90's, so it had been loaded more than 40 years before.
I appreciate the Han Solo reference that went over everyone’s head. Thank you for that.
Thank you for the confirmation! I’ve had a chest rig full of 6 mags for about 6 months and plan on leaving it. But it’s in good gen 2 p mags
The springs won't wear, but the feed lips on any polymer mag can spread apart. Keep the dust covers on.
The Chopping Block Thank you!
@@dmoney6005 my pleasure.
*Fair warning to the community:* If you are using a placard (such as the HSP D3CRM in my case) that uses plastic inserts for magazine retention, and you leave it [the chest rig] set up with loaded mags then you will _absolutely_ lose all magazine retention. All of your mags will simply fall out with ease.
HSP replaced my original inserts for free the first time but said I would be charged from here on out if I don't follow their instructions. Which, by the way, the rig does not come with any instructions nor should it because it's a chest rig. It's pretty straight forward or so I thought.
So I attempted to return the product but they refused to refund my money. Claiming that I "misused" their product. Such asinine garbage. How does one "misuse" a chest rig?
When I called them out for shady marketing and manufacturing an inferior product. Meaning they knowingly produced a part or product that was designed to break which in turn, forces the customer to continually buy/replace those failing parts.
I was then told by Travis and his team and I quote, "Don't leave your chest rig loaded with loaded magazines." WTF is the point of having a chest rig set to go and mounted on your plate carrier if you're not supposed to keep it ready with loaded mags?!
Again this is just fair warning to the 2A community. I'd hate for someone to get hurt because of some company's greed or lack of credibility.
Stay safe my friends.
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@@BertShackleford Thanks for the heads up. Now the question is, when is HSP going to release tempered steel mag retention inserts or some equivalent that will endure the test of time for us modern minutemen.
DL-44 blaster pistol, nice reference! Appreciate the tips.
I love that DL44s were referenced (and also he got to the point). Good video
Love Brownells as I can always find what I need there & the folks working there are extremely helpful.
I'm glad he brought up cheap mags, cuz ya those will take a huge set and weaken faster.. I agree tho, a good magazine can stay loaded.
Even inexpensive magazines can be down loaded 20%.
Curious if anyone has any examples of "cheap" magazines to avoid keeping loaded?
Working for a police dept. back in the '80s I did a magazine spring test on Remington M870s, both the standard length 4 round and the 7 round extended magazine. We left 10 of each loaded for 2 years. We measured the spring length at the beginning and again after we function fired them. All the springs took a little bit of a set, but the shotguns functioned flawlessly.
In another case, I took my Pop's M1911 and 3 loaded magazines to work to function fire, clean and inspect them, and reload with fresh ammo. Those magazines I'm sure had been loaded for 20+ years. The pistol, magazines and ammo functioned flawlessly. Though I don't recommend it, stored properly this stuff will last almost forever. Guns & ammo, like people should get out and exercise once in a while :)
I'm not worried about storing magazines fully loaded.
Thanks for being expeditiously in your review, the folks who beat around the bush usually lose me before the end, thanks sir..
Wow, great video. Short, and to the point. Looks like mags stay loaded!
actually covered exactly what the video referenced quickly! refreshing
"Your DL-44 blaster pistols..." Solid Han Solo reference, mate. 🤣
Thanks for the clarification!
Looks like I’m gonna load up all my spares... I’ve usually been worried about the resulting spring tension..
Makes more room for AMMO, loading your mags
Leaves at least TWO large Ammo boxes available
No worries, and weaponized math makes alot of sense.
Paul Harrel talked about in a video how when he was still in the military his unit was issued low quality 3rd party magazines for their issued handguns and they never lasted more than a year without a problem, often far less. Fortunately the fix was easy. Remove the base plate, remove the spring, stretch it out a little, put it back together. Good mags can go a long time but even bad mags you can make work again if it's just a matter of spring compression. One idea is to put numbers or letters on your mags and if one gives you trouble write that down somewhere you won't lose it. If that same mag gives you recurring trouble despite quick fixes like a spring stretch than it's worth getting rid of and buying something better.
I'd advise against some AR mags being kept loaded. That's only because I've had issues with the tops of the mags getting warped just enough to cause feeding issues. Granted, I'm about 90% sure it's because their lower end mags but something to keep in mind with plastic mags.
Yes the top feed lips also damage under pressure. Try Lancer magazines for better quality.