Quick Tip: What's the Right Muzzle Device for Your Gun?
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2020
- Muzzle brake? Flash hider? Compensator? Firearm muzzle devices come in a bewildering array of shapes and sizes designed to perform specific functions. Brownells Gun Techs Steve Ostrem and Caleb Savant are here to help you figure out which muzzle device is right for you and your gun. FLASH HIDERS (aka "flash suppressors") do exactly what their name suggests: they mitigate the fireball emitting from the muzzle when you fire a shot. Originally developed for the military, they help reduce the risk of your muzzle flash telling the enemy where you are. COMPENSATORS direct combustion gas upward to counteract the natural tendency of the muzzle to rise when a shot is fired. Due to its closed bottom, a compensator also kicks up less dust when you're on the ground shooting prone.
MUZZLE BRAKES reduce felt recoil by redirecting the gas outward, to the sides. The faster the bullet velocity, the better a muzzle brake works. For AR-15 shooters, Caleb answers this old question: Does it make sense to put a muzzle brake on a rifle chambered in .223 / 5.56? Because it reduces or at least slows the amount of gas coming out of the muzzle, a SOUND SUPPRESSOR also serves as an effective muzzle brake. Finally, some muzzle devices are designed to perform two - or even all three of these functions - but the results tend to illustrate the old saw, "Jack of all trades, master of none."
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This has an "alright son, show me what you learned" feel to it.
I'm pretty convinced the guy in the right is actually centuries older than the guy on the left. Just can't go out in the sun for some reason.
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I choose D All of the above
@@brownells haircut gave you away. Lucky you mirrors aren't made with silver anymore
@@brownells you can deliver in India?
This is like sitting down with your dad and you think you're explaining all of these new things to him and he's asking questions like he has no idea what's going on. In reality, he knows everything.
Often knowledgeable people ask questions that newbs wouldn't even think to ask
HAHAHAHAHA
Thanks! Your comment actually made me laugh out loud 😂👍
And those old timers right there are just admirable!!!!
Johnny Cash teaching me about muzzle breaks is the highlight of my night.
Hahaha well played.
Ha! Thanks!
brakes
Of course, he's the expert on rings of fire
@prelude to a funeral ll
Flash hiders also help keep the shooter from being blinded by his own muzzle flash in low light conditions, and to help keep the shooter's natural night vision that the eyes adjust to.
You would think Brownells would know this but many so called experts leave this out.
No wonder they banned in California featureless rifle 😂
@John Beige Three prong flash hiders are best for flash mitigation. Find one that doesn't have a ringing tone when fired.
@@Izzy235634 The LMT three prong is a good one. The tines are each different. It removes that ping.
@@Izzy235634 what about the Surefire War comp ?
Welcome to "Son explain to me what Muzzle devices are" lol
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Fucking love doom!! Also this hobby!
@Josh Jones I wish, one day California becomes a red state, down here in orange county, we are all conservatives.👍
Exactly... Exactly....
Exactly.
@@thelonepainter4760 it’s such a beautiful state, with so much to offer. Definitely a bummer that it’s run by idiots. If it were a pro gun conservative state I could see moving there in a heartbeat
Don't forget that with a muzzle brake, if you're shooting in lanes or at an organized range, the guys next to you won't like you. The brake redirects the sound and gas pressure to the shooter's rear and left and right sides, so the guys in the lanes next to you get the full Monty from that.
I enjoy it. It's like firecrackers, but someone else is buying!
I didn't realize they were attachments that did that. I remember being at an indoor range and feeling this huge thump from several lanes down. I also went to an outdoor range and the person next to me had one and the pop I felt in the face was unreal.
i got the same feeling when I went to an outdoor shooting competition with my brother. some guy was shooting a pistol with a red dot and break on it, but it was only .22, and I was like "why is that so loud and concussive". my brother explained that it seemed louder because the break redirected the sound and energy toward us, instead of down range where it would normally go.
Elvis and Clint Eastwood talk about attachments
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I designed the Anti-blast Muzzle Brake from 1987 till 1992 .It was tested at Liverpool University in 1994 and gave 60% momentum reduction and 84% energy reduction in recoil on a Parker Hale rifle in 30 06 caliber. They stretched the test load up to 3150 fps with a 150 grain bullet and it still worked ie did not burst the rifle or damage the brake. Target Gun Magazine did the review in the May Issue. I sold 30 units but did not have the funding to go into full production. Guns Review, an english magazine also did a test. Colin Greenwood fitted it to his .308 rifle. Nice overview guys and you are so right, there is so much depth to this subject from engineering and physics to practical application.
Could you send a few to these kinds of review youtubers?
@@marcus8710 My understanding of "flash hiders" is that they protect the shooter from the flash created by the bloom at the muzzle when the unburnt powder particles hit the air. These produce light energy instead of pressure ie a very bright flash. The old FN used by the UK directed the flash as spikes through the elongated ports. The ports were not quite set North South East and West, but turned through 45 degrees so that the shooter could see clearly through to the target between the top two flashes using open sights.Ball powder is particularly bad for bloom or excessive flash but it is very clean burning for continuous fire required in combat. The diagonally set lower ports only balanced the "recoil impulse" of the top exit ports. These are closed as you noted to compensate muzzle lift shown in your second example. A large US company looked at my brake and tuning device . said no then promptly manufactured it. I have not trusted big manufactures since.
Rod Mac you should've sued if you had the patent
@@whatstheproblem6606 I couldn't afford to do that. They sold out to another company and it would have been a nightmare to pursue because of that alone. I am pursuing better things now anyway and in a less trusting way. Their loss really as I had many more designs they could have used to our mutual benefit.
@@Primer595 Sadly, this happens more often than many folks may realize. …& as you also stated, usually, it’s to their loss as the inventor of a great product more than likely has multiple great ideas, not just the one, yet the others may never be discovered due to the initial violation of trust. Everyone loses, nobody wins.
The one with “jet propulsion” sounds neat.
Lol.
HennessyVirus VSOP precision armament m4-72 severe duty. Amazing performance. The truth about guns youtube Chanel did vids comparing 100 different devices. Pretty cool
Called Rocket effect
According to UA-cam ads...an "oil filter."
Oil filter suppressor?
Those are tracked
@@christophercordasco1739 Oil filters are tracked? Wow.
@@coolbreeze2.0-mortemadfasc13 it’s an ATF honeypot
Oh no😂😂
We're just going to ignore the catgirl mug huh
Dhm mother of God, and it's the old man's!
Nice attention to details
God damnit lmao
I see he's a man of culture
Not everyone is man enough to drink out a a cat mug and not give a crap what any one else thinks.
these Brownells videos are my favourite. These two get to the point asap , videos are usually around 4 - 5 min. long and they share the talking almost 50 / 50. Thanks guys !
Gentlemen - Quite possibly, for me this was your most valuable technically-oriented UA-cam. It made great sense (and I spent a 40+ year career in tactical aviation program management, so the gas and acoustic concepts are somewhat familiar) and the presentation was flawless. THANK YOU. I’m doubtful that this technique is something Brownells’ uses, but a conceptual fluid (gases are fluids) dynamics analysis of gas dispersion (by velocity and temperature) with various muzzle divides would be really interesting.
@mr sir you are a loser.
Roy Kiefer there are plenty of videos out there that show and explain exactly what you are wanting. 👍
Interesting to think of gases as super light fluid, idk why but that makes it a lot easier to comprehend for me. Thanks
I really enjoy your videos. You’re both very knowledgeable and give us some great scoop. I’m an old Marine and my first T/O weapon was an M14. I loved that rifle so much I bought an M1A years later for the nostalgia of it.
Just wanted to thank you for all the concise tutorials that you put out. Your knowledge and dedication is paramount and a pleasure to absorb.
Thank you Gentlemen. I always enjoy your videos and learning things new to me through them.
I love the standard AK-74 muzzle device, it's a really well-engineered piece, doing everything you want quite effectively, reducing overall recoil with side ports as a muzzle brake, compensating with the few methodically-placed holes and also serving as a flash hider of course. The side ports are also asymmetrical horizontally, venting sideways and slightly up. Probably pretty advanced for the time, at least for such a mass-produced rifle, it was later used in 7.62 AKs of the AK-100 series too.
ah yes the un-circumcised muzzle brake
You both did a terrific job explaining the purposes of various openings in the muzzle. Thanks - much appreciated!
Very cool and informative overview. Always happy to come back to your videos to learn something!
Great video! Great discussion. Thank you
With a 7.5" barrel, I immediately replaced the A2 hider with a flash can.
Huge fireball, but I wanted the blast and sound projecting away as best as possible.
Not sure if those classify as something else, but it works.
Excellent explanation of muzzle devices, thank you!
Thanks for watching!
I was searching for a muzzle brake for my ancient FN Herstal Mauser, which I have placed into an Archangel stock.
I watched your muzzle brake recoil test where the recoil was reduced from 30", down to 12". That sold me along with your company's stand on backing up your products. Thank you for your integrity in a market that reeks of pretenders.
Thank you... I have waiting for this video, as per the I.D. on a brake for a long time... I keep seeing the (0.2780" to 0.2870") pending the brand of brake.... but to hear you guys mention: (typical to see 0.0200" clearance over the diameter of the projectile).... this points me in the right direction... Thank you.
Using a muzzle device to mitigate muzzle flip on a .204 would be extremely helpful because of the velocity thanks appreciate your video
I personally have the one on the far far left as your watching this video... it makes a hell of a fireball and makes the gun SUPER SUPER loud lol... I love it!!!
I put a generic muzzle brake on my AR and took the bird cage flash hider off the AR and put it on my 10/22.
They both "look" bad ass ... !
Thank you guys! You helped me a lot, very well made content.
These videos r supppper good and informative as someone who doesnt know a ton on firearms truly thank you for these
Very interesting as I'm unable to have a suppressor this is the next best thing
I have an AR-15 Colt Match heavy barrel sporter (H-BAR) and, in order to test the effectiveness of an AK-74 muzzle brake, I used a scope set on 9x. I fired with and without the muzzle brake and there was a tremendous difference in the time it took to get back on the target. The Jerry Miculek muzzle is even better than the AK-74 muzzle brake.
Hey thanks guys that was some good info and did not realize the specific functionality of each one. Appreciated
I love the conversational style of your videos. I always learn something when I watch you guys. You have new subscriber!
Thanks for watching!
Steven has a great story telling voice, like I’d love to hear some old western gunslinger stories, or old hunting stories told by him
We keep asking him...
@@CalebSavant Get him to read one of Jack O’Connor’s hunting books
Have several on my carbines. From A2’s, to linear comps and brakes. Its definitely noticeable how each works. Great video.
I only use full on comps for rifles with higher powered scopes intended for longer ranges. They help to keep the subject within your viewing window during recoil for much faster follow up shots. On already light recoiling calibers for longer ranges say 250 - 500 they can keep the rifle so steady, that with small quick adjustments you can hammer away at a pretty fast pace with very good accuracy. For rifles used under 200 yards the flash hider is a must.
Thanks guys , entertainment and educational at the same time
Coolest part of the video. Suppressor pulled out of thin air lol
you mean that "solvent trap"?
They should do a video on the arcane arts of doing just that but the ATF would want to regulate and tax it for sure.
I put a muzzle brake on a 5.56 bull barrel prs build and there is absolutely no felt recoil. While recoil in a .223/5.56 AR style rifle is light to begin with, it is still there. The beauty of this build is since there is no noticeable recoil, the following shot on the same target is stacked, if not in the same spot.
everyone else on the firing line feels your gun
@@ergosum5260 It was especially brutal at the indoor range for test firing!
I really enjoy these videos. I think the subject matter depth is perfect for quick and digestible learning. Thanks guys!
Thank you!
Great info!!!! Thank you!
Lots of advantages to muzzle devices my skinny 9 year old needs a small very light rifle he can carry but a round powerful enough to take large game at distance without excessive recoil. I set up my ruger gunsight scout for him. it’s got a at one stock that’s very light and adjustable to his small stature, i added a precision armament break that removes 64% felt recoil and a forward mounted “scout scope” because it’s faster to pick up for him and he prefers it to standard eye relief. It total it’s a very small light .308 he can comfortably shoot and accurately hit at 200 yards with. Without the break he would have to shoot something either to heavy for him to carry or to underpowered to take larger game with.
The Smith vortex is by far my favorite. A true flash eliminate! Second from the right. 👍
I have the same, can confirm it is a great flash hider. Pretty happy with it.
I have one also Works great
I have saw them tested on TV in total darkness and just by that I’d have to agree that it’s probably the best on the market when it comes to hiding the flash.
Not a 100% though, only a suppressor can hide it that well in the pitch black of night. especially the sbrs
Yup
I got an upper that had a break on it. Loved how it shot very smooth infact I put one on my other ARs. They make 5.56 such a smooth shooting rifle. I love them
Great job on educating us! 👍
I swear by the VG6 Epsilon on my AR. Loud boom and mitigates the already minimal recoil.
“A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one.”
Compensator ftw, also there is a moderator they forgot to cover.
This was a good informative video , it would be nice if you did one on shotgun chokes. As many people don’t fully understand their concept . Why they are used, what they are designed to do? Which to use ? in which situation ? What are the best ? Just some examples to cover
Great information thank you
That old guy sounds like the old ghost rider 😂
Omg😂😂😂😂
I have a VG6 on an AR15. Thing is great.
Yes, Epsilon VG6 on my AR
@@MrKlein83 good to hear its the one i bought for mine as well
I have a vg6 on a Vepr 7.62x39, very sweet but very concussive
I have the VG6 on a Grendel AR. Love it!
Surefire WarComp on my ADM mod2
Well done gentlemen
Thanks guys!!!
Very useful information. I'm having/assisting with my first AR 15 build and this video answered questions I did not even have. Thanks.
If you're doind a 223/223 Wylde/556 build you might consider a Kaw Vallet linear compensator
EXCELLENT construction and relatively inexpensive ($59).
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All of our Colt M16-A2 rifles when I was in the Marine Corps had compensators on them. Even my Pre-Ban 1986 Colt AR-A2 rifle has a compensator on it. I prefer the A2 style of compensator. It would be interesting to know if there are A2 compensators made for a AR9, AR45, AR10, 6.5mm, & other calibers that a person can build an AR-15 style rifle to.
I have the VG6 EPSILON on 3 of my rifles and they are very nice. He stopped short of saying it, but it is best of all three traits. Compensation, flash reduction, and a muzzle break.
Thanks for the solid video guys!
Thanks for watching!
Can you do a video on suppressor options?
Was thinking, "which ones do I use as King and Queen on my chess board"?
That coffee mug on the right is badass.
I was recently shooting a carbine indoors and the muzzle flash was really distracting. At the same range, shooting a carbine with the A2 flash hider I barely noticed the flash. That bugger does its job very well!
Strongly recommend the design of 4:20. Most vent out the side with a little vent on the top to prevent muzzle climb, Really helps prevent jumping up off the bipod.
Where can I get it. I can’t find it
Mine is on a 7mm Rem Mag. Custom made via machine shop equipped gunsmith. Good time for trigger work if you're thinking about it.
Vg6 epsilon
answer: whichever one pisses off everyone else at the indoor range the most
Great video!
Great vido… I like the gun room!
Depending on who I want to piss off or not, I'll switch between a comp and a MB.
I do have an upper I like to put on with a very short barrel and large brake. It’ll clear out a range real fast. However all the young guys come over and ask questions and often want to shoot it so it’s a double edge sword. (It’s just a cheap 7.62x39 but it gets way more attention then either of my purpose built competition guns but hey, sometimes $400 worth of fun can be worth more then $4,000 spent.
@@john-paulsilke893 My favorite flavor is shorty 556 ahhaha
1:32 he mentions best of both worlds. That would be the Surefire Closed Tine Warcomp hands down. I've bought a looooot of muzzle devices and that's the winner
I always thought about the warcomp, though I hadn’t considered much of a difference between open and closed. Definitely considering the closed, now!
@@Eastwood007x they are both suppressor mounts, which is cool, but the open tine ones (I have some in .308 and .223) kind of make this harmonic, had to notice tuning fork sound, but once you notice it its 1. annoying and 2. in a combat situation without a silencer a pretty bad thing. I personally like the closed tine, the design kicks ass
@@christophergrillo410 I don't buy it. The harmonic ringing on an open tine flash hider/comp has nowhere near the intensity of a gunshot. If you're worried about your muzzle device ringing in combat, you have seriously and fatally misplaced your priorities. This argument is akin to the M1 Garand ping myth. If the enemy is close enough to hear the ringing they already know where you are, and if you are in a situation where being annoyed at the ringing even matters, you're most likely firing fast enough that you never notice the ring anyway. Plus, modern military equipment includes hearing protection that would entirely deaden that sound to you because it is so faint to begin with.
I know they switched from a 3-prong to the birdcage flash hider with the M16A1, but they did it entirely because the 3-prong flash hiders were prone to snagging and breaking in the Vietnamese jungle, not any silly made up problem people come up with like "it rings too loud and is distracting".
@@brettarmour7254 I'm not "worried" about anything with my muzzle devices keyboard commando sir.
@@christophergrillo410 Trust me, when you are shooting your WarComp Open Tine equipped rifle at someone, they are NOT going to hear that little "TING!" noise that the muzzle device produces. You can hear it because your earplugs/muffs are reducing the sound of the muzzle blast, but the deer or whatever won't hear anything but the muzzle blast from firing. The target also won't see much in the way of flash, even in total darkness. Nothing works better for reducing flash than the open-tine WarComp muzzle device (7.62 or 5.56).
I added a Fortis RED muzzle brake on my AR 15 recently. I am amazed how much it has improved accuracy for me. I am shooting buttonholes consistently now.
Really informative, thank you!
Not gonna lie, didn’t even realize there were muzzle devices in this video until about 4 minutes in. Caleb’s hair was too amazing to turn away from. 👍🏻
@Finn McCool 😂
You can tell this was Steve's first cup of coffee
The coffee cups were empty, just props.
I'm sure the cups are full of vodka,the old guy always looked smashed
What is the art on the cup he's holding?
@@dash7828 Catgirls
I didn't even know y'all had a youtube channel. I freaking LOVE this!
We do and youve got a lot to catch up on!
@@brownells oh yes sir! Let the binging begin
Really good information, and all in one place too!
There’s a couple items on the table you didn’t touch on. Specifically the ones that have a lot of small holes. What are the purpose of those?
Those are the ones that do everything but dont do any of the 3 functions particularly well.
I suspect they'll touch on them in the future. One of them looks like a quick coupler for a Q suppressor. I'm sure some of the others are also quick adapters
@@lasoga2125 😁
They are tunable. The come with set screws that you install to tune it to your liking. They suck.
They make a whistling noise.
The kind that makes it whisper in the dark.
Thanks Caleb!
Smith Ent. 4 Prong 15 degree RH twist; are the best ones I've used, the US Army adopted them in 2005-2009 M4's, M14's, M240's, and even M2 50Cal MG
always keep in mind what are you using you gun for.. so if you're going CQB .. u don't wanna ave a muzzle break directing the gas to your buddy next to you
if it's for your home protection, don't go for a suppressor .. ig someone breaks in .and you shoot . u want all the neighbors to know and call the police .. perhaps you will get wounded and you won't have time to call'them yourself
very useful video..
Bill Myers unfortunately not
For me I got lucky, and by that I bought the geissele urgi upper. Came with surefire 4 prong warcomp. Try buying that any where else, and it has no flash...
Great video, now does Brownells carry the sick gel my dude is rocking
i purchased a cheap flash hider on my first upper build. there is a huge difference between a cheap one and the surefire warcomp. huge
I have wanted to see that coffee cup closer up.
VG6 Epsilon is BY FAR the best one on the table....and the market! I have one and LOVE IT....although a bit loud. There’s tons of research and comparisons done and it DOES offer the best balance of doing all three (brake, comp, flash) exceptionally well....just have to make sure to get it “clocked” correctly. Worth every penny!!!
They just need to add Suppressor QD functionality.
The Midgardener Amen!!!!!
@@desertdwellintom The full sized VG6 Epsilons/Gammas are compatible with Griffin Armament GATE-LOK suppressors fyi as they share the same standard A2 rear collar.
ultradyne Apollo s hands down the best. I've used them all. Trust me.
That sip of coffee at the end🔥
Thanks for sharing. 👍👍
Flash suppression is ,more, for the shooter. It lessens the flash signature to aid in target acquisition.
Especially with night vision
As for 'position disclosure' ...they make the gun louder. That's...kinda, a giveaway.
Schrodinger's GAT 👍
@@foxsquirrel3038 oddly enough; a half mile from me is a Fox Squirell Ridge rd.
What's the easiest way to find someone shooting at you or shooting anywhere near your general direction... Sound which can bounce off virtually everything? Or a flash of light from muzzle blast?
I wouldn't disagree with it being more for the user, but for different reasons like not having a fireball telling the enemy exactly where you are. And yes it's a military thing.
I use the Lantic Dragon muzzle brake and boy it's loud .
Have one on one of my 15s, loud for sure. Great stability but heats you up fast :)
The VG6 Gamma and Epsilon will work with the Griffin Armament M4SD2, M4SDK and the Gemtech Halo.
Great info!!
I want a set of each so I can make a chess set with breaks
Patent it, you could have a million dollar idea
This gave me a good laugh
The best thing to do with anything gun is to make chess sets, save lives, play chess!
That was informative despite my being pretty dang knowledgeable on the subject. Thank you!
I change the A2 flash hider out on everything but truth is it's a highly effective flash hider with some muzzle rise compensation as well.
Good explaination
I could listen to Steve’s voice all day. He needs his own radio show
Great video! However I would add one type you guys did not talk about: Linear Compensators. Yes I know it has the word _compensator_ in the name but it directs gases, and subsequently noise, downrange. It does nothing to keep the barrel in any particular position as a standard compensator would. Instead it makes for a more pleasant experience by reducing concussion/sound for the shooter.
Having tried some serious muzzle brakes I can honestly say they are not for me. The extra concussion is just not worth it, but then again some folks love them. As always thats one of the great things about the sport!
For those looking into muzzle devices I will say learn from my mistake and try an inexpensive one first before springing for something that is top of the line. You will get +80% of the experience. Then when you decide what form you like best, you can go for something pricier (and hopefully better).
Most if the name brands are overrated and you are correct. I've used a few inexpensive ones say less than $40 range to a few that were much more expensive. They all work, but the question is what are you looking for.
@@ratagris21 Totally agree! Nowadays the only expensive muzzle devices I can see me buying are those made for quick detach suppressors...even then it feels like such a ripoff...90 bucks for a flash hider sucks.
@@pgeorg01 thank you for your agreement.
I enjoy your videos but I must say the delivery and enthusiasm of the Lucky Gunner videos are much better.
EXCELLENT INFO.
Coffee and my favorite channel. Just dropped $400 on you guys today! Love this hobby, but my girlfriend hates it.👍🇺🇸
Thank you!
Hey I love your stuff. But the flash hider is for the shooter (night vision), not for the “engaged party” as they get a pretty star. As for the rest of the video is very informative. Had a Russian compensator that removed alot of the recoil and rise, but the flash looked like a Howitzer and destroyed night vision on a AR-15...
Brownells tech support is awesome. I don't do much business with you but I've been doing it since 1955. I was buying through McHugh Sporting Goods then. I needed the frame screw that retained the yoke on S&W 649-2 and the lady that answered to take my order at Brownells immediately said they were out of stock with no expectation of resupply but she gave me a phone number of a gunsmith that had some in stock and he had one. There are many businesses that have great service but, none have ever delivered that kind of service that fast.
Thinking about it now I expect the gunsmith's information was tied to the part number on Brownells' computer system. Tying all their years of knowledge to parts, guns, and items on a computer would be a daunting task but, boy, would it pay off.
At 2:00 that is the one I have on my 16” barrel AR except I added 3 holes on the top half. Works perfect for this short barrel.