Why Joost Klein and the NETHERLANDS will WIN EUROVISION 2024 - and why they might not

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  • Опубліковано 27 тра 2024
  • In Pro/Contra I play devil's advocate and try to find all the reasons for and against a song winning Eurovision. Today we have a look at one of the favorites to win: Joost Klein and Europapa for the Netherlands!
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  • @eurovisionhistories
    @eurovisionhistories  21 день тому +37

    Do you think Joost can do it?

    • @PennieJ
      @PennieJ 21 день тому +14

      If he doesn't win its okay. He is awesome anyway. But hope he wins!

    • @BlackScorpio
      @BlackScorpio 21 день тому +1

      Eurovision learn with Iolanda:
      ua-cam.com/users/shorts1ObjyFWTDZw

    • @sanderbrangers8473
      @sanderbrangers8473 21 день тому +3

      Yesssss🎉

    • @BlackScorpio
      @BlackScorpio 21 день тому

      @@sanderbrangers8473 a really masterpiece chorus🤣 pa-pa-pa.. what is the other country? With the chorus ding-ding-dang.
      Commercial, commercial, commercial.
      Eurovision learn with Iolanda:
      ua-cam.com/users/shorts1ObjyFWTDZw

    • @muffimonkey5065
      @muffimonkey5065 21 день тому +4

      i yesterday randomly asked in a game comunity if someone is going to watch esc this year. and the only answers i got were if that is where joost klein is performing, and that they might because of him, but they also didnt knew which country he was representing x) so his efforts in meme making and going wild on advertising himself on various social media seems to work out, so this might get interesting and draw in a new audience ^-^

  • @lilianhonkanen9356
    @lilianhonkanen9356 20 днів тому +19

    I am a Dutch-born American teacher and today I shared the background and the video clip with my middle school students, and they loved it!

  • @lindavh3626
    @lindavh3626 21 день тому +52

    12 points to The Netherlands

  • @lindavh3626
    @lindavh3626 21 день тому +25

    I Hope so❤

  • @kiekendiefje
    @kiekendiefje 21 день тому +20

    Read somewhere that the AR and the visuals on screen combined tell Joost his story. Together with the sound of Joost and his energetic and charismatic self on stage + the emotional ending could get him some love from the viewers.

  • @parantatatam8526
    @parantatatam8526 17 днів тому +3

    This just popped up in my recommendations and yeah...this timing is quit wild...

  • @andrijahreljanovic2078
    @andrijahreljanovic2078 21 день тому +25

    People in Balkans know about happy hardcore if they remember or know electronic music in the 90s. But happy hardcore was always club scene oriented genre and not a mainstream genre, even in the 90s with few exceptions of course.

    • @rotsuuu
      @rotsuuu 19 днів тому

      Fr? I mean I am from 1995 but temember very well how my older siblings loved it! And we're from Poland. Always had an impression it's an all European thing :)

  • @Lildutchams
    @Lildutchams 21 день тому +7

    Whatever happens, Joost will be the true winner ❤ No one has more worldwide streams / views / likes

  • @nathaliehek1274
    @nathaliehek1274 21 день тому +10

    So curious what the act is gonna be on Thursday. Ite a long wait because he is ending the show. Go Joost 🎉👏💪

  • @annalyon2729
    @annalyon2729 21 день тому +20

    Depends on his staging. He has a real chance to win a televote if the staging is a success.

    • @joeydaniel3852
      @joeydaniel3852 21 день тому +1

      His staging is the problem. We would have a change if we had a great staging, like Ireland suddenly appears to have. That's why Ireland has more change of winning than Joost. The Dutch staging really ruined our chances. 😮‍💨

    • @Secret-et5lk
      @Secret-et5lk 17 днів тому

      @@joeydaniel3852its not honestly

  • @yvonnevandenbrink9828
    @yvonnevandenbrink9828 21 день тому +16

    12 points for Europapa

  • @lenya889
    @lenya889 16 днів тому +3

    my heart is broken

  • @Natey1
    @Natey1 21 день тому +10

    I think that he can possible win if he beat Croatia in the televote and get like 5th place or highter in the jury. I mean I think that the televote jackpot will go to either the Netherlands or Croatia. Unlike last year there isn't a jury favourite so if everyone stays together with a marge of 7 points each and the jury winner get like 240 points the televote is the possible downfall of the jury winner and if The Netherlands or Croatia stay in the top 5 and hit the televote jackpot one of them will possible win.

  • @unown_
    @unown_ 21 день тому +7

    Joost! ❤

  • @jambek5303
    @jambek5303 21 день тому +10

    Hakkuuuhh!!

  • @annemarievandijk1296
    @annemarievandijk1296 20 днів тому +3

    Hell YES!

  • @Stonebrook83
    @Stonebrook83 21 день тому +2

    I have never been this curious for the Dutch staging. Usually we never have anything too outragious (not counting the organ or the native headdress, for which I am embarrased, that was so not ok). So as a Dutch person it is kind of cool we are talking about our staging as a possible tipping point in our favour for the televote. I'd be honoured to lose against some of the other heavy hitters but not gonna lie...this would be an amazing year to win ❤

  • @stingarea2844
    @stingarea2844 7 днів тому

    Aged like fine wine

  • @josschakenraad6415
    @josschakenraad6415 20 днів тому +1

    Great analysis. Most of your pro and con arguments make sense. We will see.

  • @e.dewildt8608
    @e.dewildt8608 21 день тому +14

    It's also a vacation week in the Netherlands so a lot of people are in other country's☎️

    • @joeydaniel3852
      @joeydaniel3852 21 день тому +1

      lol and they are all buying new phones? If you have a dutch phone number, you can't vote for The Netherlands. Doesn't matter where you are.

  • @amberjanssens3826
    @amberjanssens3826 20 днів тому +5

    He will 100% get a 12 televote from Belgium

  • @RobRotterdam121
    @RobRotterdam121 21 день тому +12

    The Big Winner, The Netherlands 🇳🇱
    Why? A Star is Born
    Most streamed Spotify, most successful at ESC Tracker, most vieuws at You Tube( 23 million at this moment!)
    So ………Eurovision is Coming home in Rotterdam 2025.
    A big party in 2025 , without COVID rules.

  • @user-pp6we8od6t
    @user-pp6we8od6t 20 днів тому +3

    Joost Klein is definitely a winner 🏆 ❤

  • @starkoo
    @starkoo 20 днів тому +1

    I think it will be more exciting than the bookies predict. It's going to be a battle between Croatia, which I think has already shown the maximum. The Netherlands still has to play in the semi-finals, but the odds are still expected to grow a lot. I expect that the one from Croatia or the Netherlands that has the highest ranking among the jury will win the festival. In my opinion, there are too many songs that could all win the jury, so the gap to the televoting stars, Croatia and the Netherlands would not be very large. Rest assured that it will be very exciting!

  • @kasparstevens8754
    @kasparstevens8754 21 день тому +4

    120%

  • @catesc9367
    @catesc9367 21 день тому +12

    I know croatia would be a deserved winner. But its still fun to hope four an underdog to take it

    • @benl3990
      @benl3990 21 день тому +2

      but this year the winner is probably really close
      so you dont know this is an underdog

  • @Aranimda
    @Aranimda 16 днів тому

    I think he can do it. NL should send him in 2025 or boycot forever.

  • @MarionPauli
    @MarionPauli 21 день тому +18

    Croatia deserves its first victory at the Eurovision Song Contest this year 🏆

  • @TheAnimeGirl0401
    @TheAnimeGirl0401 15 днів тому

    They prefered to make him dirty then give him the option to compete

  • @rosemulet
    @rosemulet 17 днів тому +1

    You’ll never believe this…

  • @motherofslavs8761
    @motherofslavs8761 21 день тому +1

    Never underestimate the influence of German MTV on Balkan children in the '00.
    10 points for the Netherlands.
    And I think people are more tired of jurry favorites overriding televote. It gives sort of a Aristocracy overriding the pesnts. And if somebody does not like that its the European public.

  • @Secret-et5lk
    @Secret-et5lk 17 днів тому

    Shame on the eurovision will never forget what you did eurovision 🇳🇱

  • @heximaal
    @heximaal 20 днів тому

    joost best!!!!!

  • @russell10
    @russell10 21 день тому +7

    This unfortunately doesn’t have realistic chances due to the sub 100 jury score incoming. It will be interesting to see if they can compete with Croatia in the televote; it’s also possible they don’t win the semi final if Switzerland wows

  • @angimangi5324
    @angimangi5324 16 днів тому +1

    This didn't aged well😅

  • @swedishmetalbear
    @swedishmetalbear 21 день тому +1

    I don't think it will win.. it will be Switzerland

  • @alanicyculipus615
    @alanicyculipus615 15 днів тому

    He hasn't 😢

  • @AshleyManning85
    @AshleyManning85 17 днів тому +1

    Well guess he isn't going to win a God damn thing now!

  • @ainsbrittain8954
    @ainsbrittain8954 18 днів тому +1

    HE WONT.😂😂😂
    AND NOW HE IS UNDER INVESTIGATION and BANNED from Rehearsals 😂

  • @dazza7321
    @dazza7321 17 днів тому

    😂

  • @belli4933
    @belli4933 21 день тому

    I think the song is catchy in a bad way. Like the add jingles, you do remember it but you hate it

  • @jtb357
    @jtb357 21 день тому +37

    No, I think he will not.

    • @TheArijel
      @TheArijel 21 день тому +22

      I will vote for him, from Serbia🎉

    • @TheArijel
      @TheArijel 21 день тому +25

      For me, he is the most interesting, most fun , most charismatic, most cachiest , he seems so nice person, so with nou doubth, I hope he will win, he is eurovision🎉

    • @jtb357
      @jtb357 21 день тому +9

      That makes me happy, I am Dutch. He is very interesting, I like the song but was a bit disappointed by the staging​@@TheArijel

    • @aijamberisabel
      @aijamberisabel 21 день тому

      One word will make him not win: [the] juries

    • @Norf666
      @Norf666 15 днів тому +2

      For once a comment that aged well... In an unfortunate way.

  • @ollehfutureov4261
    @ollehfutureov4261 17 днів тому

    nope, he will not 💀

    • @eurovisionhistories
      @eurovisionhistories  17 днів тому +1

      Guess you are right...

    • @allikin75
      @allikin75 15 днів тому

      @@eurovisionhistories "being disqualified" missed on your list of reasons. What a sad, sad ending to his adventure. :(

  • @jefson875
    @jefson875 21 день тому

    Joost Clouwn

  • @ANGELIC_DIVA_
    @ANGELIC_DIVA_ 20 днів тому

    No!

  • @ulfvesterlund2160
    @ulfvesterlund2160 17 днів тому

    Netherlands just got disqualified, he beat up some camera woman behind stage

    • @user-ec3hf1mv5x
      @user-ec3hf1mv5x 17 днів тому +1

      He never beated up a camera woman behind stage who told you that ? That never happened😂😂

    • @DoodleDan
      @DoodleDan 16 днів тому

      He didn't even touch her...

    • @dolanbright
      @dolanbright 16 днів тому

      Source: EBU

  • @alipanroosendaal9503
    @alipanroosendaal9503 19 днів тому

    Okay, I never liked the song to begin with, but just looking objectively, the NL performance look amateur and cheap.

  • @santilic4836
    @santilic4836 18 днів тому

    He is sooooooo cringe. HORRIBLEEEE

  • @Kinta8888
    @Kinta8888 15 днів тому

    he wouldnt have won either way.. they wont let straight man win.

  • @lejafeja8444
    @lejafeja8444 21 день тому +4

    100 % not winning

  • @CristinaCannizzaro
    @CristinaCannizzaro 21 день тому +3

    OMG…. I am sorry but I genuinely hope not! I could even be fine with Croatia or Ukraine winning, but not this! This is dreadful!

  • @MarcoHeijligers
    @MarcoHeijligers 21 день тому +13

    Win or not? It already got the most attention of the public for the Eurovision event! 🤔🫣🥳