Sicilians overview Aoe2
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Analysis of the bonuses, units, and techs of the Sicilians from AoE2.
0:12 Intro and win rate stats
1:20 Team bonus: Transport ships are stronger
2:25 Castles and Town centers built 100% faster
3:15 Land military units (except siege) take half bonus damage
5:10 Farm upgrades provide +100% food
6:18 Can construct the Donjon
UNIQUE UNIT AND TECHS
7:20 Serjeant
8:40 First Crusade
9:40 Scutage
TECH TREE
10:30 Archers C+
10:50 Infantry A-
11:22 Cavalry B
11:50 Siege B+
12:15 Navy B
12:38 Monks C
12:55 Defenses A-
13:40 Trash Units A-
14:00 Closing thoughts & strategy talk
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Full intro song: • Spirit of the Law Chan...
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Game: Age of Empires II Definitive Edition with the Lords of the West expansion.
![The Donjon (Sicilian unique building) [AoE2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/tlYwk80HOUs/mqdefault.jpg)
Japanese and Sicilians? Confirmed, Spirit of the Law likes the mafia.
So are all these cartel murders in Mexico merely sacrifices to the gods ?
Majima voice: SOTL-CHAAAN!
@@Duke_of_Lorraine Relax man, it is just a joke. Besides i am as far from Mexico as Mexico is from Italy or Japan.
Then he should also like the Chinese and Vietnamese, who've had long standing organised crime families traditions.
@@ANTSEMUT1 Plus Russians, specifically Chechnya.
13:58 I did not know that Sicilians could create Scout cavalry from the blacksmiths, this gives them a strong early game for sure!
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bruh
Also, Hand Cannoneers are trash apparently 11
Cursed tech tree
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SoTL: It might surprise you that the Sicilians are one of my favorite civs to play
Sicilians: An infantry civ with powerfull unique towers
Japanese: you don't say...
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You just opened my eyes to the truth omg
You could say, they're the Japanese's Euro cousin.
This video actually makes Sicilians seem like a load of fun... I may have to rethink my Donjons into more Donjons strategy...
How’d u reply 4 hours ago
@@rougeone2124 Patrons get early access
@@adventuresofavalon2477 nah bro he's a time traveler.
@@skellyslav 11
@@adventuresofavalon2477 29
Those sicilian transport ships are not what I was looking for when I googled "sicilian defense" but here we are
This guy chesses
11:45
Spirit: "I'd say it's a B for cavalry"
Me, an intellectual: "Bavalry"
Based Bavalry
cabalry
@@eRic-hr3yl Cabbage really
@@kilercola My cabbages!!
🅱️alvary
It feels so good to hear that intro again.
It's a shame he doesn't give economy a grade anymore. I really liked it :(
Great to see the intro coming back after many videos!
Me: Ah, Sicilians can be interesting to watch.
Also Me: Vibing and replaying the intro 4 times
I remember SOTL started a series about historical aspects of the units... but it was a lot of work.
It would be nice to see a collab between SOTL and some military history focused channel like Metatron (who recently played Sicilians in AoE II in a video, and he seemed to enjoy them very much :) )
I've shared this before but it might be interesting to you. A few posts to fit it all!
Castles and Town Centers are constructed 100% faster. Faster building Castles/Town Centers reflects the Norman penchant for castle building. While famous for building castles in England, the Normans also constructed many throughout Southern Italy and Sicily, such as the Castello Normanno ("Norman Castle") in Aci Castello, Sicily (built impressively on a rocky outcrop facing the sea) or the Castle of Melfi in Melfi, Italy. There are several castles and towers in the region referred to as "Norman Castle" or "Norman Tower" in Italian, reflecting the ubiquity of these constructions during the relatively brief period of Norman rule.
In fact, this period of Norman Italy/Sicily (11th and 12th centuries) was known for incastellamento (encastellation), as castles sprung up so rapidly. Castles gave the Norman elite -- always relatively few in numbers -- the ability to control territory and manage very large and diverse subject populations, especially in Sicily. Castles and simple keeps or donjons also provided effective defense against feuds with Norman families (such as the conflicts between the Hautevilles and Drengots) and other invading powers. Castles also served an almost-offensive component, as represented by Count Roger's conquest of Sicily which was made possible by his gradual expansion out from his power bases of castles and towers.
In fact, the geography of Southern Italy and Sicily, with its mountain ranges and narrow coastal plains, encouraged the construction of castles as a means to control and defend key terrain such as valleys and coastal cities.
Land military units absorb 50% of all incoming bonus damage.
During their height, the Normans (and especially their cavalry) were militarily unstoppable on the battlefields of Southern Italy, the Balkans, and the Near East, such as at the Battle of Dyrrhachium (1081) when the Normans broke the center of the Byzantine lines with a direct charge. The Normans would have similar successes in direct melee with Arabs, Berbers, and Turks despite often being outnumbered. For example, at the Battle of Cerami (1063), a little more than 100 Norman knights decisively defeated a much larger Arab/Berber force, estimated in the thousands, through direct cavalry charge. Simply put, the Normans did not have a lot of tactical tricks up their sleeves to make up for their small numbers, but could still win with sheer ferocity.
In addition, this bonus reflects the Italo-Norman success against their enemies. Similar to how the Lithuanian Leitis -- with an attack that ignores armor -- is especially effective against Teutonic Knights and Boyars, the unique units of two civilizations the historical Lithuanians fought and had successes against, the Sicilians being able to mitigate bonus damage reflects the Sicilian/Norman successes against their historical opponents: the Byzantines (with their anti-infantry Cataphracts and their other counter units -- spearmen/skirmishers) and Saracens (camels).
Farm upgrades provide +100% additional food to Farms before they need to be reseeded.
Dating back to Roman times, Southern Italy and Sicily has always been an agricultural center, owing to its warm climate and the fertile volcanic soil in the region. The Roman latifundia, or large farming estates, were long a feature of Sicily into the Middle Ages. While some historians suggest that the persistence of latifundia had long-term negative effects on the development of the Sicilian economy, the bonus makes sense when one considers that these large estates would have contained significant agricultural area -- hence the increased amount of food for a given farm.
Can build Donjons, which replace the regular Watch Tower line.
The design of the Donjon itself is based on the Castello di Adrano in Adrano, Sicily (built in 1072 by Count Roger I of Sicily) -- which features a square tower above a recognizable larger base, possibly built up over an older Arab structure. Count Roger is believed to have erected this tower as a fortified outpost to assist in his conquest of the nearby city of Catania. The Normans often used such structures as bases of operation for offensive actions throughout a region. This history of offensive building is also reflected in the fact that the Donjon can train Serjeants and Serjeants themselves can build Donjons. In the game, the high armor value of the Serjeants allows them to hold their own in hostile territory a bit longer than regular infantry can until players can send in their Knights from their main bases.
Transport Ships +5 carry capacity and +10 armor versus anti-ship bonus damage.
The Italo-Normans were not particularly effective at naval combat -- as evidenced by a number of naval defeats against the Byzantine/Venetians -- notably, the Battle of Corfu in 1084. They were, however, extremely innovative at transporting armies and horses, as well as undertaking amphibious operations, most notably in their initial conquests in Sicily as well as later in the Balkans. For example, in May 1061, Roger crossed the Strait of Messina separating Italy and Sicily with a surprise night-time crossing while the city of Palermo was taken 11 years later by an amphibious invasion. Transports having additional carry capacity and armor reflects this Norman/Sicilian ability to strike out via sea.
Spirit of the Law, you are an absolute legend
Spirit of the legend
Law of the spirit
"Hello, you absolute legend(s)"
spirit 2021: one of my favorite cives, the sicilians
spirit 2020: hold my katana
In naval battles you can overcome player micro ignoring your transports by loading just one cheap unit into them to make them a more tempting target.
Thats kind of briliant
I love the “I like toes at night” patreon
Isnt it "lick"?
Flamish rev + Scutage = meme profit 😄😄
*Castles and TCs built 100% faster*
DauT : *"My time has come!"*
No more DauT castles, now. DauT will become OP xD
Oh no
Everyone needs to snipe Daut’s Sicilians pick in Red Bull Wololo IV for sure
Just because of your comment I just checked if DauT played any sicilian gams in RedBull Wolololo III
He hasn't...probably was banned
actually today i literally managed to make a daut castle with sicilians, stopped at %97 percent. i bought stone on market and started to build another near it, but it also went daut, but thankfully it disracted my opponent enough to finish first one 11
Now doubt can waste 649 stone in half the time! 😯
Dude I literally googled “AOE Sicilians guide” earlier and I was thinking, “wonder why SOTL hasn’t made a video on it”. 3 hours later this comes out, wtf.
they're watching
damn targeted advertising
Imagine using the gold tech with a Burgundian ally who just converted his villagers to Flemish militia.
Or a malay player spamming karambit warriors
Karambitcoin value spiking
I'm sure I'm not alone here, but anyone else notice how in several campaign scenarios the Sicilians are called the Normans? As in, when you select a unit or building, instead of "Unit/Building Name (Sicilians)" it's "Unit/Building Name (Normans)". I feel like the civ was going to be called the Normans for most of the expansion's development but it got changed near the end and the devs didn't change all the "Normans" references
that's because they are normans
Sicily was ruled by the Normans for several centuries.
@@Harvest133 I know, I'm pointing out that the civ name should be "Sicilians" in those campaign scenarios but it's "Normans" instead in some instances.
I think it was a purposeful civ name change so they would fit in with the scenario. For example, in the Edward I campaign, it would be weird for you to be fighting the Sicilians in England, but there were plenty of Anglo-Normans running around
@@Draevan13 There is also a few times in the scenario were they aren't in Sicily and are just being Norman Knights and not connected to the Norman Sicilian Kingdom. And really only the final scenario is it really the Sicilian Norman Kingdom. So it makes sense for it to be all Normans, but the end scenario reflects the "Sicilians" as they are normally.
I recently watched again the Persian civ overview. You have really really improved a lot. This civ review was very very good. Thanks a lot. Very nice work.
Things must have changed pretty recently, because I see they no longer have scutage, but hauberks instead which really buffs cavaliers but surprisingly not their serjeant
WHERE IS THE OLD GOOD INTRO?!?! FINALLY ITS BACK!
Why am I not surprised that he likes Sicilians when he's a Japanese fan? Versatile civs are indeed the best! I don't have the DLC yet but Japanese are my fav civ and this video made me interested in Sicilians.
I haven't played this game since AOC like 15 years ago, and I still watch all of these videos...
I love it!
For a vid with the Sicilians in it this has far less maths than I’m used to
I've got this strategy when I play a 2v2 as Sicilians with a friend on arena. We both go for 30 pop dark ages, standard fc feudal, and then as quickly as possible get up 4 new tcs and a castle, a siege workshop and a barracks. We build siege towers at the workshop, get arson and squires in the barracks and of course get the first crusade tech. Then, we hop the walls and destroy their base at like 23-27 minutes before they have any substantial army.
This worked so well before first crusade was nerfed. 100 serjents at 25 minutes in their base was unstoppable
I felt like it used to be 10 serjeants per TC at one point in an old video.
@@obesechicken13 Yeah it was so broken when you played it like how we did
Something to consider about the donjon, it’s larger, so more units can attack it at once, making it harder to defend than a tower.
I watch all your videos and I have never played AOE2, but your videos are very entertaining to watch. Keep up the good work, friend.
You should play tho ; (
I had tears after hearing the intro song after so long :') Love the vids, love the intro, keep up the good work
I disagree that Economy is a useless discussion category. It might be woth civs like the Sicilians who barely have an eco bonus, but plenty of civs have bonuses that specifically affect booming.
I like playing Sicilians on island maps. The stronger transports and ability to drop donjons as a forward base from Feudal make them very good at amphibious attacks
[Dog drags butt across carpet]
Scutage Research Complete!
This got me thinking about the old video SotL did about making custom civs, but doing one to seriously boost Farm output. Here it is:-
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Civ Bonuses:-
Farms are 40% cheaper (Teutons)
Farms do not require a Mill and Farmers do not require drop sites (Khmer)
Economic upgrades cost no Wood (Vietnamese)
Resources last 15% longer (Mayans)
Forging, Iron Casting, and Blast Furnace are free (Magyars)
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Technology Tree: Bulgarians
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Unique Unit: Teutonic Knight (Teutons)
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Unique Technologies:-
Steppe Husbandry (Cumans)
Perfusion (Goths)
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Team Bonus:
Farms are built 100% faster (Incas)
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So these are obviously very strong farms, but you can't actually win a game with farming alone - therefore, the very strong farm-based economy lends itself well to making a good trash unit Civ as well. Steppe Husbandry and Perfusion are there to make sure you can keep the Halberdier/Hussar train rolling, and you do get decent cavalry archers too if that's a thing you like. The Khmer farmer bonus is there to save you resources and to make your farms immediately useful, and the combination of them being much cheaper and a lot faster to build and reseed means you're getting a lot of bang for your buck. I know there are more farm-specific things out there - Burgundian Vineyards for the massive gold injection, the Franks getting farm techs for free, the Chinese team bonus giving more food - but the more generalist bonuses allow you to use your farms to win, rather than get massive amounts of food before losing. Hope this was fun to read! =]
9:34
"Work done, I'm going home"
lol
Easily one of my new civs. I feel like they are flying under the radar right now. 1000-1300 elo players get smoked by their feudal scouts or castle age knights. If you can hit your enemies eco in early castle, its so easy to boom with the faster tc's and then go full serjant in imp, with trash scouts.
All this info never sinks in. I must of watched all his civ videos 100's of time in the hope that something sticks in my mind
Sicilian bonuses counter their primary medieval foes in history, Byzantines which focus on counter units, and Saracens which focus on camels.
I like that Sicilian cavalry don't die easily to pointy bois.
One thing I wish they would introduce is civ weaknesses. That civs can have unique features that are a negative to them or maybe that are neutral.
Like maybe they could have double bonus damage but it goes both ways. That halberdiers do 56 bonus damage to cavalry but take 6 from skirmishers.
Talking about jack of all trades civs for teamgames, Magyars are severely underrated. They are the only civ to have both FU paladin and FU arbs, even tho I would prefer them as pocket, as their scout rush is really strong. You can also go for maa into archers, which is even better than Burmese maa play thanks to the scout also getting +1 attack, but the eco behind it won't be as strong.
Another thing with transports is that nigh invulnerable transports synergizes quite well with tanky infantry that can build towers that make more or those infantry. Sicilian naval invasions can be particularly hard to punish and they can be very easily secure a beachhead even without water control.
I'm from Sicily. I always find fun seeing people talking about my people bc usualy when one thinks about italy
"...Because usually when one thinks about Italy" what?
@@francisluglio6611 Because Sicily is currently a part of Italy, they often get overlooked as a separate entity I assume.
@@mrgaudy1954 ohhh. Ok. I was wondering if it was grammar or they were trying to say something nuanced. 3/8 of my ancestors were Sicilian. I thought that way always thought of as Italy. Learn something new every day
Nice one again! But please, keep the economy analysis, it actually helps rounding up and considering non military bits.
So much effort in these videos and he really keeping the game alive
I was about to start my next AOE2 Theme cover and now I want to play a match with the Sicilians. Happy this was revisited!
Spirit is the absolute best. I wish he had a twin doing AoE3 to be honest. No, quadruplets to cover AoE1, 2, 3 and AoM!
get the cloning vat going bois
I played AoM a lot more than AoE growing up, so while I love all his stuff about AoE, a part of me wishes he would do stuff for AoM.
@@stevenmathews9355 I fully agree. But since there is no AOM:DE, I doubt AoM will ever get any attention aside from Viper's playthrough.
Quintuplets, because of AoE4 coming soon.
Dropping the eco section is a terrible choice.
Eco bonuses make the civ and knowing how it develops by age is very important. Most of the top civs have a strong eco bonus early or one they grow into quickly, combined with the availability or lack of techs. Its a good section, keep it.
Finally a Sicilians overview expecting a bugundians overview soon.
happy to see the return of the spirit of the law intro!
It's great to hear your thoughts on civs even if I would never be able to use it.
HE BEOUGHT BACK THE INTRO!
Best thing about First Crusade is that you can use it past your popcap. So if you're max on population you can use it to overflow your army without having to sacrifice Villiers for more troops. I always love it when I see my pop 235/200 lmao.
Now I'm curious: Bulgarians vs Sicilians... Krepost vs Donjon, Konniks vs Sarjents.
Please make videos like this for every civilization. You are awesome
Finally, another civ overview. :)
I think the most important use of scutage is to help start trade easily in a team game when you don't plan ahead like me and realize the entire team is fighting with just trash units. That gold income can help start the trade with at least 10-15 carts
the imperial age tech is great for me because l might go a good trash unit civ or just a mass a large army of them in any civ and due to the fact l like to play with 500 population it will take a while but it`s insanely op on these kinds of games
I play them a lot on DM games as you can get a castle up before the enemy scout arrives and then be on 5tcs super fast for first crusade and have tonnes of vills making production buildings.
Or you can just castle drop a line of castles into the enemy base
Whenever Daut plays with Sicilians their bonus change to
Castles build %100 slower
Scrutage + karambit warriors sounds like the secret to insane profit
Scrutage + First Crusade + Karambit + Flamish Revolution = your team is showered in gold
@@chingamfong that would be ridiculous, good thing those techs aren’t in the same civ
Inflation anyone?
@@samstark568 Oh f**k
This needs an updated video, they have changed a lot since this came out
Sicilians+Portuguese+Vikings in team Islands. Victory every time
These guys have gotta be my main, its a tough road ahead but it must be done
The intro always make me feel a little happy.
i would rather have Sicilian light cav than optional hussars, less damage from halbs is essential
I’ve been playing them recently on the new map (crater? The one will wood in the middle
And water/stone on edges) I favour the archers and it’s been a lot of fun.
I used to always go straight into Serjants, but honestly I've started opening with archers. Then I tech into infantry and get a massive surprise force with first crusade.
For my money Sicilians are the perfect ally for an archer civ. They have a tough meat shield infantry unit that can hold the line while the archer civ piles on damage from behind, and their unique tech helps offset the gold cost of archers or hand cannoneers. Hell of a tag team. Combine with Vietnamese Paper Money for a late game gold-heavy push.
"Never go up against a Sicilian when death is on the line!"
Hahahaha hahahahah hahahah (Falls Over)
You should look in to the pattern units are placed in when disembarking. :D
Spirit: I play sicilians
Japanese: naniiii
I think that people look at sicilians' tech tree and they don't realize just how strong they would be if they got more stuff. Imagine paladins who take half damage from halberdiers... they'd be absolute monsters vs basically anyone who doesn't have their own, fully upgraded, paladins. Think about arbalests with full upgrades who can 1v1 enemy skirmishers... it actually makes a good amount of sense that Sicilians have a narrow tech tree.
Spirit said 'start a new tradition' meaning more civ overviews? yes please! redo all the old ones in DE :D
Great video. Very, very well done. thnkyou tom
planning to ever revisit the civ overview with all the changes they had like the hauberk tech, +100 stone and so on?
Depending on who you're fighting, full upgrades Serjeants can in some situations tank more arrows than full upgrades *Huskarls*
Omg thank you so much i've been waiting for this for so long
I just noticed, you haven’t done a Burgandian overview yet. I was looking for how much gold does Burgandian farms generate after Vineyard tech
Sicilian Siege Onagers are more resistant to conversions which can be useful on Arena
When new SotL video showed up in my feed I cheered out loud
Before watching this video:
“ I don’t think Sicilians would be a civ I would play, ever. 😌”
After watching this video:
“ Wait ... I think they are actually fairly good 😆 Especially the counter bonus resistance and castle drop ability (Even better than Spanish builders) “
That’s why SOTL videos are so important to watch 👍
The intro is back 😍
My first ranked game with the sicilian was an Italian opponent. It felt so wrong but so right :)
I feel like no one is talking about how this civ is the best landing civ on islands
Probably because most players dislike water maps
@@SilverKnightPCs team islands with a buddy is a blast though
These guys are like Sensei in Advance Wars with all the free unit drops.
His soundtrack haunts my nightmares, helicopter specialist my arse.
"NEVER GO IN AGAINST A SICILIAN WHEN DEATH IS ON THE LINE AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!"
Falls over dead.
Great vid!
But we need more civ overviews!
How does it normally take to make a video SOTL. Love your puns
@Spirit Of The Law: What about the persian kts team bonus against Xbows? Is it halfed as well?
Is it bonus damage? Then yes.
Not sure how people ask you questions but I have one. Foundation health? How does that work? what kind of armor does it have? Is it killed faster then the actual building?
I love Sicilians if only for the fact that building Donjons makes it easy to serjeant rush.
Upvote for starting music. Love it man
I think that the sicilians needs a bonus of his unique unit, like if: 5 serjeants are in a donjorn they do a plus 1 bonus atack in the arrows
How is there not an 'inconceivable' joke here? That is inconceivable!
Aren't the sicilians overpowered on king of the hill maps since their units resist bonus damage and can build a bunch of donjons in the area where the monument is located and keep a large army easily while the opponent struggles to keep up from attacks and take on the monument area?
I think you should still analize the economy, sometimes a civilization with bad military bonuses compensate their weaknesees with a good economic tech tree and economic bonuses. to me Sicilians are a solid A in their economy
So, it's a civ for a really technical player, in average hands will be weak but in the right ones will bright for adaptability and capacity to surprise enemies.
How did you get the short version of the theme music? I thought they were all gone since the definitive edition.
SPIRIT OF THE LAW UPLOAD YEAH BABY