Paradox's eternal curse: Making a bunch of interesting-sounding niche gimmicks, only to realize too late that they're all utterly pointless compared to playing the game normally.
Honestly the problem half the time is that they're just balanced in such a way that they're either impossible or not worth doing. The exile path should just get a special operation that guarantees the Warsaw Uprising after a bit of time, a bit like the French communist missions that guarantee a Welsh and Scottish uprising. Most of these "gimmick" paths could be saved with some reimagining of how they work, but Paradox won't ever go back and change them.
And some choices are pointless or actually broken. Nobody doing a monarchist Portugal run wastes PP boosting monarchist sentiment in Brazil because it does nothing visible, and triggering the BR civil war is simply much more straightforward.
@@zacharysilver911 Correct me if I'm wrong, but Surprise Strike doesn't give wargoal warning, isn't affected by wargoal justification time maluses, allows to executes free strategic bombing in a region until it runs so you just concentrate it on airfields, radars and AAA so when it runs out you can start nuking with uncontested air superiority, no?
Warsaw Uprising is OP as hell once you fire it, unless it was just bugged or they've changed it since last time I did it (years ago). It gave me back all my land (including that which got annexed by the Soviets), parts of Italy for some reason and hundreds of decent veteran units everywhere.
i did the commie usa path before it got patched and annex the whole of the USSR, and then the Warsaw upring started in me and not germany so, that was fun
after capitulation Polish soldiers didn't stopped fighting, there was many polish units scattered through every front fom skyies over Britan through Monte Casinto to Middle east so it is historically plausible that most of them if uprising was successful would return also for Italy land polish soldiers participated in fight there
Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz. Born in Chrząszczyżewoszyce, Łękołody district, died in Mszczonowieścice, Grzmiszczosławice commune, Trzcinogrzechotnikowo district. During his life he was friends with Szczepan Brzęczyszczewski with whom he lived together in Mszczonowieścice. He was uncle of Jakub Błaszczykowski. xD Sorry, just couldn't resist throwing this here after you mentioned "guy with too long name", mixed with pre-WW2 period... Had my thoughts go straight to "How I started world war 2" movie. :D
To be fair, the Warsaw wasn't even actually supposed to participate in the whole operation, which mostly targeted the cities in the East as Red Army re-entered the old Polish borders on their march to Berlin. AK/Home Army actually managed to successfully retake a couple of cities with help of Soviets (or Soviets retook them with help of AK, whichever way you want to see it), but once all was done they were packed into trains and carted away to camps by NKVD. Warsaw Uprising was a last, desperate step to re-establish Polish government rather than succumb to puppet one brought in with the Soviets.
The ai does cheat quite a lot when it comes to garrisons. For the Warsaw uprising achievement you pretty much have to give it to Tannu Tuva, who despite being tannu Tuva somehow still puts up a ridiculous fight
I think PDX broke a ton of resistance related foci and events by making the AI capable of switching occupation laws. I know at least as Ethiopia that trying to do their whole Africa rebellions is a nightmare since the AI just switches to military governor as soon as you generate some resistance.
ISP I Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz is quite offended about your statement on my name. I would like an apology (I speak polish and I still had to look up how to spell it)
Lol, I love how every time ISP plays Poland, it turns into pure chaos. 😂 It’s like the game just knows how to mess with him on purpose! Plus, those Poland memes are just too real! Can't wait for the next one! 🇵🇱🔥
7:53 This reminds me of when in Catch-22 Milo was selling eggs for less than he buys them for but somehow making a profit hahaha (also set in WW2 Italy LUL)
The hapsburg Poland path actually has a nice buff if you're in exile, not that you would usually need it you have the Czech industry Germany should be so weak you roll over them. Also if you pull off the Warsaw uprising I think you can get back some of your territory the Soviets took if you time it right
I just got the game this week. I started as Poland because I'm Polish ancestry. . . "I'm just going to build my units for anti-tank duh. How hard can it be?" "Surely the Allies will help." "Why are there troops on the Russian boarder I thought I improved relations." It wasn't a good time. That was the first time i felt so helpless in a game and it hit harder because i can't imagine what my family went through in that situation. Warszawo, walcz!
You can actually get a bonus spirit to your leader after capitulation if you go with a soldier king monarchy. Quite helpful and better than the historical route.
technically you could pull back to a point where you can do the focus then push back out which would be kinda cool, because the stuff in that tree is crazy strong.
4:28 wrong they had garrisons, but in poland... witch the allies usually never do since they dont have enough time when poland only joins the alliance immediately after the germans attack. U really should have turned off allied supplies to prevent them from loosing so much divisions in a pointless battle.
The reason you can't get resistance high enough is because paradox changed the default garrison law, it used to be civilian oversight now it's military governor I think.
197,000 people away from being possibly the most subscribed hoi gamer on youtube, its been a long time coming, it would be amazing if you get it before the relesase of hoi5
Yeah, there is a old event that lets Germany annex Austria if they are in the same faction. I thought it only worked if you go for democratic Kaiser, but it seems to fire anyway
As "paths that need you to cap" Free France has been bugged for years, often times Degaulle is not put in power and it cancels most of the focus tree, also you get a capital in New Caledonia wich ends up fucking up supplies, not to mention the lack of manpower and about everything else
i have tried it twice and... well i think you need to time it perfectly, you get decent ammout of units and whole country back, however they aren't rly good units so i just capitulated again both times
Timing is key and generally when to do it is around when the soviets near Poland after the allies retook France. Biggest factor which plays is how the Soviets do as if they do to good your games over and if they do really bad you will capitulate or be stuck in a war for a long long time.
Poland having cores on the east and Soviet Union not is really, really dumb, and i say it as a Pole. There was like 10% Polish people there, with exception of Vilnus and Lviv, and the locals didnt exactly love being part of Poland.
"prepare for the inevitable" is basically when paradox announces HoI5 in 4 years and ISP has to do all of this all over agin for another 10 years
Job security
Hoi5 A-Z
@@donpollo3154 sejozwak moment
@@drip7797 sejozwak finding out Hoi5 has somehow more bugs than hoi4 ever did
Its an all-ending cycle
Ah yes, the capital of the exiled government of Poland: Eastern Syria
11:55 Hmm, we got NATO, the Comintern, and the Axis hanging out on the east Adriatic
NAFO expansion is non-negotiable!
You can only change yourself for the better to prevent nato expansion!
Sounds like a the start of a bad joke
@@cyrielland then the dog enter
Paradox's eternal curse: Making a bunch of interesting-sounding niche gimmicks, only to realize too late that they're all utterly pointless compared to playing the game normally.
Just like the surprise strike operation that is supposed to mimic pearl harbor
Honestly the problem half the time is that they're just balanced in such a way that they're either impossible or not worth doing. The exile path should just get a special operation that guarantees the Warsaw Uprising after a bit of time, a bit like the French communist missions that guarantee a Welsh and Scottish uprising.
Most of these "gimmick" paths could be saved with some reimagining of how they work, but Paradox won't ever go back and change them.
And some choices are pointless or actually broken. Nobody doing a monarchist Portugal run wastes PP boosting monarchist sentiment in Brazil because it does nothing visible, and triggering the BR civil war is simply much more straightforward.
@@zacharysilver911
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Surprise Strike doesn't give wargoal warning, isn't affected by wargoal justification time maluses, allows to executes free strategic bombing in a region until it runs so you just concentrate it on airfields, radars and AAA so when it runs out you can start nuking with uncontested air superiority, no?
@@TheArklyteyou need a wargoal before you do coordinated strike
Warsaw Uprising is OP as hell once you fire it, unless it was just bugged or they've changed it since last time I did it (years ago). It gave me back all my land (including that which got annexed by the Soviets), parts of Italy for some reason and hundreds of decent veteran units everywhere.
Yeah once a country revolts they get all of their core territory which I think is very ridiculous in some cases tbh
i did the commie usa path before it got patched and annex the whole of the USSR, and then the Warsaw upring started in me and not germany so, that was fun
after capitulation Polish soldiers didn't stopped fighting, there was many polish units scattered through every front fom skyies over Britan through Monte Casinto to Middle east
so it is historically plausible that most of them if uprising was successful would return
also for Italy land polish soldiers participated in fight there
@@einkar4219Aye.
Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz.
Born in Chrząszczyżewoszyce, Łękołody district, died in Mszczonowieścice, Grzmiszczosławice commune, Trzcinogrzechotnikowo district. During his life he was friends with Szczepan Brzęczyszczewski with whom he lived together in Mszczonowieścice. He was uncle of Jakub Błaszczykowski. xD
Sorry, just couldn't resist throwing this here after you mentioned "guy with too long name", mixed with pre-WW2 period... Had my thoughts go straight to "How I started world war 2" movie. :D
I love that movie
you polish too?
Warsaw uprising: only some part of Warsaw rebeled
paradox: most of Poland rebeled
To be fair, the Warsaw wasn't even actually supposed to participate in the whole operation, which mostly targeted the cities in the East as Red Army re-entered the old Polish borders on their march to Berlin. AK/Home Army actually managed to successfully retake a couple of cities with help of Soviets (or Soviets retook them with help of AK, whichever way you want to see it), but once all was done they were packed into trains and carted away to camps by NKVD. Warsaw Uprising was a last, desperate step to re-establish Polish government rather than succumb to puppet one brought in with the Soviets.
13:33 China now owns Oslo
Bruh
Your right 😳😳😳😳😵💫🫨🫨😫🤫🤔🫢🫢🫢😛
"your name is timy, its time to wake up from the comma" - trully one of, if not the best quote ive ever heard
its so good youtube autofilled it
RAAHHHHH POLAND MENTIONED 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
How long is your name
POLSKA GUROM
I'm sertan his first name is probs. Jeшчемnikilyuht @@tonylee1667
JESZCE POLSKA NIE ZGINEŁA KIEDY MY ŻYJEMY!
@@tonylee1667
Our Polish names are not long!
My name is Grzegorczyk Bręczyszczykowianecznikowski.
I'm clicking 'Expand Polish Intelligence' repeatedly, with tears in my eyes, but I don't feel any smarter.
The ai does cheat quite a lot when it comes to garrisons. For the Warsaw uprising achievement you pretty much have to give it to Tannu Tuva, who despite being tannu Tuva somehow still puts up a ridiculous fight
Tannu what?
We need the RAT, immediately, you are gonna give it to us funny man that plays strategy games
the rat returned in his second channel!!
@@aidenbooksmith2351errm actually its a 3rd channel 🤓🤓
@@aidenbooksmith2351 I know and that's why I want it in this one too
Actually you get unique leader trait "King of the exiles" when you go monarchist path. It's cool as heck
2:47 Polish Walter White
Alternatively, bald Jeremy Corbyn.
They both killed themselves, but Heisenberg accidentally
Waldemar Biały
@MrJedroi258 Walter did try to shoot himself in Season 1 at the start.
Mr. Slawek did the same but was more successful
"Jesse, we need cook uprising!"
This is the first time literally anybody has used the government in exile feature
Every Tymoteusz will be very happy about this upload, I can tell
Who else up hearting they iron rn?
Hearting my iron until i four😊
@supt1x93 newing my order until I [STRENG GEHEIM]
Hearting my iron to the 4 years of age🥰🥰
Iron my hearts 4 times
who else up marching their eagles?
Petition for ISP to play Syndicalist Italy/Roman Empire in Kaiserredux Day 85
Hammer of God No. 3
1936 Vichy France is actually OP. You remove all bad buffs and by 1938 you either get everything back or create Latin Entente and kick Germany.
13:55 thats literally how half of Polish public discourse looks like during 1'th of August
I think PDX broke a ton of resistance related foci and events by making the AI capable of switching occupation laws. I know at least as Ethiopia that trying to do their whole Africa rebellions is a nightmare since the AI just switches to military governor as soon as you generate some resistance.
ISP I Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz is quite offended about your statement on my name. I would like an apology (I speak polish and I still had to look up how to spell it)
Lol, I love how every time ISP plays Poland, it turns into pure chaos. 😂 It’s like the game just knows how to mess with him on purpose! Plus, those Poland memes are just too real! Can't wait for the next one! 🇵🇱🔥
Ah yes when the ultimate strategy is surrendering (sounds really French)
0:10 did you realy play it on Recruit difficulty?
Because he's playing poland
Cuz he played old saves on the second channel and forgot to turn back regular difficulty
from what I remember hearing, you can't do the warsaw uprising espionage thing if you are strengthening resistance
7:53 This reminds me of when in Catch-22 Milo was selling eggs for less than he buys them for but somehow making a profit hahaha (also set in WW2 Italy LUL)
ah yes the historical route, where poland conquers italy then invades poland through germany.
Operation Unthinkable could have saved us alot of headaches today.
Episode 40 of asking to play as poland, get wojtek, conquer jan mayen and play as jan mayen
The hapsburg Poland path actually has a nice buff if you're in exile, not that you would usually need it you have the Czech industry Germany should be so weak you roll over them. Also if you pull off the Warsaw uprising I think you can get back some of your territory the Soviets took if you time it right
I just got the game this week. I started as Poland because I'm Polish ancestry. . .
"I'm just going to build my units for anti-tank duh. How hard can it be?"
"Surely the Allies will help."
"Why are there troops on the Russian boarder I thought I improved relations."
It wasn't a good time. That was the first time i felt so helpless in a game and it hit harder because i can't imagine what my family went through in that situation.
Warszawo, walcz!
4:35 funfact about Irena Anders, She was the second wife of Władysław Anders, also known as Generic White Bald Dude
You can actually get a bonus spirit to your leader after capitulation if you go with a soldier king monarchy. Quite helpful and better than the historical route.
technically you could pull back to a point where you can do the focus then push back out which would be kinda cool, because the stuff in that tree is crazy strong.
@8:51 **A snake casually sits in a Barcelona cafe smoking a pipe.**
Excellent reference
The Allies actually went to Poland in your game?! This ain't fair!
Yep. Not lore acurrate.
5:28 - Very disappointed Mr. iSorrow - that was a perfect opportunity to say "a bit of a _toehold"._
1:18 screw You!
With regards, Błażej Szwoleżerowicz
3:13 I've heard of pentagon, hexagon but never of chexagon.
4:28 wrong they had garrisons, but in poland... witch the allies usually never do since they dont have enough time when poland only joins the alliance immediately after the germans attack. U really should have turned off allied supplies to prevent them from loosing so much divisions in a pointless battle.
Lore of I Played Poland As The Developers Intended & Lost My MIND momentum 100
Golden era of HoI is over. It's in a bad state if you see several bugs in one video plus traditionaly bad AI.
11:36 - "Befriend Japan"
Getting the band back together are we?
The reason you can't get resistance high enough is because paradox changed the default garrison law, it used to be civilian oversight now it's military governor I think.
Paradox should just lower the requirement to 40% for the polish uprising
197,000 people away from being possibly the most subscribed hoi gamer on youtube, its been a long time coming, it would be amazing if you get it before the relesase of hoi5
western germany anschlussed austria at the end Lol
Nice
Yeah, there is a old event that lets Germany annex Austria if they are in the same faction. I thought it only worked if you go for democratic Kaiser, but it seems to fire anyway
12:27 wet dream of Maria Skłodowska Curie
6:06 That gives a whole new meaning to thep olish anthem.
Hello my little Tymoteusze
You go really historical - Tobruk and then the Italian Campaign (especially Monte Cassino) was the main frontline of the Polish Army in Exile...
When I do this I like doing the colonial Poland focuses after doing the peasant tree
As "paths that need you to cap" Free France has been bugged for years, often times Degaulle is not put in power and it cancels most of the focus tree, also you get a capital in New Caledonia wich ends up fucking up supplies, not to mention the lack of manpower and about everything else
2:47 Bald Corbyn
The Italy convoy scam sounds like something Milo Minderbinder would come up with
We really are being spoilt with back to back ISP videos!
"And lost my mind" As if you had any remaining by now
12:05 Metro 2033 lore!
POLAND MENTIONED
I'm pretty much convinced the warsaw uprising is pretty much impossible in the current and recent patches
I want more SLOP
playing historical poland in september, hmm i see
i will stay in the coma thank you very much. can't imagine the real world being better than this fever dream of a down hill ride
Ah yes the resurgence of Polish resistance into space 🇵🇱 🚀 🗿👌😎👍 be like:
i never knew isp was a polish youtuber
So fun. (Poland will always be pain)
this is how i played poland on my first run as them after they got a focus tree
Cooking with this one 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥💥💨
It’s crazy because I I actually play Poland and love it
Time to enjoy my daily sloppies, thanks ISP 👀
8:49 "My units aren't the best" meanwhile takes over ALL OF ITALY
isorrowproductions jinxed scotland
1:13 danzig will remain Gdańsk!
I miss being your gravy baby
I WON'T WAKE UP I CAN'T WAKE UP I CAN'T WAKE UP I CAN'T WAKE UP
*breathes in* ahhhh.. a isp vid! yay!!!
This is also the most fun way to do 30 Minutes of Hel lol
Clicked because Polska mentioned, stayed cause the "polishboy fantasy of mowing Germans" was poked at
poland hanging out in libya is a normal hoi4 game
Hahaha he believes that we can ever wake up from the map game coma
I literally did this yesterday, how did he know?
Timothy in Polish is Tymoteusz, fun fact for ya
Today we're not Timmy, today we're Tymek.
i have tried it twice and... well i think you need to time it perfectly, you get decent ammout of units and whole country back, however they aren't rly good units so i just capitulated again both times
Timing is key and generally when to do it is around when the soviets near Poland after the allies retook France.
Biggest factor which plays is how the Soviets do as if they do to good your games over and if they do really bad you will capitulate or be stuck in a war for a long long time.
Poland having cores on the east and Soviet Union not is really, really dumb, and i say it as a Pole. There was like 10% Polish people there, with exception of Vilnus and Lviv, and the locals didnt exactly love being part of Poland.
Polska Gurom
Alright, that's it, time to get iSorrow to a secure mental health facility. This is too far.
Dont judge us too heavily, timothies. We all make mixtapes
Have you ever seen Isorrow and the entire Paradox dev team in one room...
Joke's on you, iSorrow! I prefer to live in the delusion!
8:02 STONKS
It's best to take agrarian reform at the last possible moment and do other focuses quicker.
I cant wait for democratic preserve greater romania playtrough
You should try playing Poland in Realpolitik.
A foothold in Italy? Surely you mean a toehold.
Do a armored car only World conquest
"Polish boy with a long and unpronounceable name" I feel called out lol
Now do armored car only!