I’m 0.49 seconds into this video and just had to hit pause to comment…by far, hands down, the best video already for this topic. As a Florida boy I’m excited to learn about driving in the snow vs what I’m used to down here at sea level. Thank you for putting in the time to make such great content!
@@OverlandPNW - Thanks! Love your videos…even though I drive an F150 down here - lol. I almost purchased the Tundra TRD Pro though…great trucks! Taking my F150 up into some east coast mountains this winter and am trying to get prepared now. My 35” Toyo Open Country RTs are not 3PMSF rated, but I do have 4-wheel drive and sufficient ground clearance with a 6” lift…just trying to decide on whether or not I need chains. I’m thinking I’d rather have them and not need them vs needing them and not having them. It’s my understanding you should put chains on before you ‘need them’ - so I’m assuming that’s only if I plan to take the truck off road into the snow, correct? I wouldn’t need chains for normal asphalt driving, would I? If you have a video on when to put chains on, I’d love to watch that! Thanks! Excited to have a better rig than my three brothers that will be on the trip with me. Lol
@@Financial_Awareness I'm a fan of Ford trucks. I had a F350 that I used to haul a travel trailer and loved it. I completely agree that having chains on hand is smart. It would be a bad situation to need them and not have them especially if you are traveling with family. In snow country, lots of people use chains during a heavy dump on asphalt roads. There are also a lot of highway mountain passes that require "traction devices" during certain times in the winter. What qualifies as a traction devices varies by state law but it is typically an all season tire, mountain snow flake rated tire, chains or studded tires (if allowed). Sounds like a fun trip with your brothers!
@@OverlandPNW - Thank you for taking the time to respond…really appreciate it! Happy Thanksgiving to you and your loved ones! Appreciate you sharing your knowledge in your videos…love’em! Keep it up!
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I am new to off roading - having just purchased a 4Runner. Your videos are an excellent education on how to use the vehicle in off road conditions. Thanks very much for taking the time an effort to create this content! Liked and subscribed.
A few things he didn't mention... 1. don't even try a road like that without another equally capable vehicle and operator and a good reason to go. If conditions worsen you are putting other people and your wallet in harms way to rescue you. 2. New fallen snow such as we see here can allow some progress but even with good clearance, deep snow being compressed under the vehicle will take the weight off your tires. Then you are hooped. Scoop shovel time. 3. A little warm weather changes the consistency of the snow dramatically and it becomes much harder to penetrate and gain traction. 4. Its the wrong tool for the task. Too many people want to pass through "nature" without experiencing it. A snowcat, mountain sled, or backcountry skis are more the ticket.
You made a great choice of vehicle for off roading! 4 runners are tough to beat. My dad has been buying tacomas and 4 runners since the 80s and they still continue to impress me
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Great video! A lot of good information I can use on my travels. I’ve also learned since this is the first time I’ve had a truck, that you can get into four-wheel-drive and low gear to help you get around in a lot of bad weather like snow.
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Great work out there! That was major snow you guys were in! I was up today trying to get to my campsite, but 3 feet of snow was too much for our stock 2020 Cherokee. Pushing snow up hill and was loosing traction, with chains on and aired down to 12. The 30" stock tires on 17" stock wheels just weren't enough to get me there. I need to build a dedicated snow buggy!
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Yes! My Christmas present from Aired-Down Overland has a damascus steel blade with the Overland Pacific Northwest logo on it. It is in my pocket now and a thing of beauty! He just got soft shackles from me. Win for me ha ha!
@@nicholassanzari9603 With the right wheels, 10 psi is not an issue. We’re running Method wheels with their beed grip technology and have never lost a beed. We also have onboard air compressors.
Cool vid, got to use all your truck toys however a helpful tip when it comes to the fire steel. You put the fire steel rod right up to your tinder and then pull back with the fire steel rod hand keeping the striker hand stationary. NOT push forward with the striker like you did in the video. Reasons: 1. you have a good chance of hitting your tinder bundle knocking stuff around and having it bounce away. 2. You push to much air into the tinder bundle and it could dose your spark. 3. More sparks hit the target. Yes you can still accomplish a fire the way you did it but those who know will know rookie move lol.
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For someone who loves the snow, I really enjoyed this video. I actually learned a few tips here. Thank you Oh and I couldn’t help but notice the high clearance bumpers; those wouldn’t be coastal off roads bumper DIY weld kits?
Big thanks from one snow wheeling fan to another ! The silver 4Runner has a Southern Style Off-Road front bumper. The whit 4Runner has a CBI front bumper. Cheers!
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Excellent video. I don't know if I'll be trying that slide and drive maneuver to turn in tight spots anytime soon, but maybe one day. Thank you for the snow driving lesson, sir.
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Everyone that lives in snowy states should watch this. We live in Massachusetts so we were familiar with most of the tips, but I still learned things. My wife has a 4runner and I just got a Tacoma so now I want to go play. We just need straps and a winch. Snow would probably help too. Awesome video, thanks for making it.
Wow a 4Runner and a Tacoma! That the dream team of vehicles! The drone video of the 4Runner on your channel is an awesome video! Beautiful 4Runner! I left a comment. Many thanks and Cheers for the New Year!
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THAT was some deep snow. Looks like you could get stuck out easily! The road actually looks very similar to those on Prince of Wales Island in Alaska were we lived for two decades. So beautiful. - The Chatty One
@@OverlandPNW We DO but we have to go to the mountains to find it here in Wyoming. In Alaska, we had to dig out just to go to work. Fun show! - The Chatty One
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I've driven in snow ❄️ my whole life and love it , but didn't think I was going to make it home last winter when I broke my front axle , 40's are not good in deep snow with only 2 wheel drive , but I made it
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I literally got stuck in the snow last week….dam snow divots!…..I got out a different way…..I had a hammer and broke the back 50% out of the divot out, the ice behind the tire and backed out of the divot….try it, it works well!
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Thanks! It was so peaceful and picturesque out there. I loved your Olympic Nat'l Park hike video for the same reason. It doesn't get more poetic than listening to the leaves, needles and limbs touch, rub and chime. The way the wind blows through the leaves and they dance upon each other, the weighted branches of snows falls down and blows across the forest floor and if you're lucky enough to see a four-legged critter out there too.... Pure elegance. Cheers!
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I will use these tips for driving while working this winter. 😋 The low tire pressure is not an issue, since me tires always seem to have a slow leak. haha Watching you follow your brother was pretty funny. You are swerving all over that trail like a drunk. Those kinetic ropes are just like rubber bands. Too short it will sling shot the towed vehicle into your butt? Great tips! Happy new year!
Thanks! Your video on September Dinks was good. It has been unusually slow fishing for me and a lot of guys I know this fall. What's going on with the fishery??
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GREAT TIPS!!! I got sum new Toyo AT3s installed & waiting for some snow nearby upstate SC 😂 Im sure I’ll have to travel outside my state but BRING IT ON OL MAN WINTER!
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Great video and merry Christmas to both of you and Steve. We don't have any snow locally and have to drive 200km to get some snow. All the best for 2022 and I look forward to the video. Best regards.
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Big congrats on your new caravan! It is a beauty! Yes, the channel is growing...thanks for noticing! I wish I knew the secret! I just do my thing and cross my fingers ha ha!
I have a 3rd gen tacoma trd off road. Just got falken wildpeak at3w tires. No lift or anyrhing. Im in south west WA. Took it up larch no issues. May go up tomorrow. Have a rifle i need to sight in
Looks like a awesome trail. I definitely would have either driven through the branches on the downed tree or wiped out he chainsaw to continue the adventure. I have a 92 4runer so im so too afraid of any additional scars from trees.
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Don't think I will start using the term but this is the first time I ever heard it called a divet. Following vehicle the driver was not able to stay in the tracks. Was this done for the video? Nothing worse than having a person not able to follow the tracks and literally screwing up the road. Every snow condition requires different techniques. Being use to powder I favour a narrow taller studded tire. Overall we have found with the local conditions they generally work best. But there is an exception to every rule. Definitely an interesting video and have subscribed. Thanks
That Nissan is actually a Nissan Patrol...also known as the most capable off road vehicle in history with most off road prizes won in competitions. The Patrol's off road ability is as legendary ar Toyota's reliability. If you want the most off road capable vehicle you take the patrol....if you need the most reliable overland vehicle you take a land cruiser...each have their own specialty.
The owner said it was a Nissan Safari. I actually did not know the difference between a Nissan Safari and a Nissan Patrol. It turns out that they are the same thing. The different names (and some different specifications) were used for marketing purposes in different parts of the world. The name "Nissan Safari" was used in the Japanese domestic market. At least that was what I was told by the owner. I did a little internet research and that seemed to check out as correct. Regardless, it was an amazing vehicle. And, I agree that they are known as one of the most capable off-road vehicles in history. I once owned a Nissan Patrol. In fact, I learned to off-road in a 1967 Nissan Patrol. It had manual locking hubs, a hand crank start (no kidding), a manual transmission, and a clutch so hard to depress, I'd swear it came from an old tractor. Not a single modern "traction control" device of any kind. I really miss that rig!
Maybe it isn't great for the rope to make long pulls, but it is real nice for the vehicles. I wouldn't do a 30 mile tow, but a mile or so down the beach is far better with the cushion.
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We plan to do some crawl control tests in the snow. We have done a couple in prior videos. For example, in the Video Snow Wheeling Nonsense, there is a snow crawl control test around 2:48. Cheers!
We don't have a video about our tires/lift planned but I can tell you what I have on my rig. On the front, I have an Icon Stage 2, 3” Lift. On the back, I have Old Man Emu rear springs. My tires are currently BF Goodrich T/A K02 315/70R17 on Method 703 Wheels. However, I think I like the 285/75R17s better. They are easier to fit.
Very nice video, but I don’t understand why don’t you use The off road Control, and the rear locker or A track ? You keep using ropes to pull out your brother I just wonder why? He he has a 4 runner with all the off road Features
You can still get stuck even with the traction control features. Sometimes the snow is too deep or too slippery and the tires just spin even with the traction control on. So, then you need to get pulled out. Good question!
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Awesome video, guys. I am jealous of that snow! I love what you did putting your logo next to the TRD badge. The tire pressure is my go to trick. I lower the tire pressure even with my fwd car when we were in upstate New York all depends on the tire of course. Your brother got a UA-cam channel right? He looks familiar. Have a happy new year guys, stay warm!
Thanks! Yes, my brother has a UA-cam channel. It is Aired-Down Overland. The link is in the video description. Happy New Year to you as well! I'm hoping for a great 2022!
@@OverlandPNW Same to you man! Yes, I have come across his channel before for his installation of a suspension kit from iron man I think. My other account is subscribed to his, I don't think he uploaded anything in a while though.
@@maxdexpeditions He has a video almost done. I keep hassling him to finish it. You should drop a comment on his channel saying more videos please ha ha!
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Chains are one of those topics that off-roaders can debate for hours around the campfire. For off-road backcountry driving, there are videos on why chains work and others on why they don't work. For me, there is no doubt that they really shine when you can get down to some hard pack. I like the idea of carrying a set with me as a safety measure but don't like the hassle of using them unless I really really need to. I am usually with other people and it is easy (and fun ha ha) to get pulled out if I get stuck.
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I live in Utah where some of the heaviest snow in the country is. 90% of this video is correct but I have never had to use snow tires I believe the whole snow tire thing is kind of a scam like wearing underwear. Anyway good video …
I lived in Utah for several years and know what you mean. I talked a little bit about snow tires in the comment section. Tires rated with the 3PMSF symbol only means that that the tires’ traction is supposed to be at least 10% superior on medium-packed snow compared to a generic all-season tire. And, that traction is only tested for straight-line acceleration, not breaking or anything else. So, driver experience is always the most important thing when it comes to winter driving.
@@OverlandPNW Thank you. My new ones are yokohama geolandar MT G003. They are working surprisingly well in deep snow, and I have been curious how well other tread patterns work. Yours seem to get you right through as well.
Thanks! I just watched your videos and subbed. Hope you post some more. You are off-roading in some awesome areas. Yes, this was filmed off that hwy. Some roads, like Bennet Pass Rd., close Dec 1st and are only open to snowmobiles. But, a lot of the major roads remain open and have great snow wheeling.
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@@nickford400 I have not tried Falken Wildpeaks but I have heard good things about the A/T3Ws. One of the things I like about them is that they are not super heavy like some All-Terrain tires. I pay attention to tire weight because the 4Runner does not have a monster of a motor ha ha!
Contrary to popular belief, airing a tire down does NOT make it wider!!! Yes, it increases the length of the tread patch on the ground but a 10" wide tread pattern does not magically grow to 11.5" wide by letting air out. It would be like your rig going from 84" wide to 90" wide by taking everything out of the bed......
There are definitely some loose semantics at play in the articles about airing down. You are certainly correct that the width of the tread patch does not change. Maybe a better way to say it is that since airing down allows the tire to flex over uneven surfaces, it provides a wider "contact patch." In other words, it allows more of the full "tread patch" to stay in contact with the ground.
Been snow wheeling in the Mt Hood National Forest since 1968. Always found that a small square point shovel was my best friend. Sometimes called a sand shovel. Makes those divots you speak of go away very quickly. And always carry chains with me as a back up safety device. The chains i use are called ice-breaker chains and can be purchased at Les Schwab. They have small steel bars on the cross sections and grip the snow like the claws on a cougar. Love your red plastic snow boards. Light weight and do not take up much space in your rig. Safe wheeling everyone.
Great tips! I've had a lot of good tips from viewers. I may have to do a follow-up video with all the viewer tips. I'll check out those chains. I don't like the hassle of putting them on but as you said, they are a great back up safety device. Thanks for the input and safe wheeling to you as well!
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You should do a video explaining common “snow ratings” and what they actually mean. There are actually several snow ratings floating around that mean different things and have varying requirements. Might be interesting. #1 on my personal list of snow driving tips would be to know the type of snow conditions you are dealing with because the best tool for the job in snow varies quite a bit depending on the snow you are in. For example, a narrow (fully inflated) tire is actually superior in situations when there is a solid surface below a layer of snow that can be reached before the axles and undercarriage of the car hang up on the snow or if there is enough snow that it just compresses into ice under the tire. Skinny tire, less surface area, so there is more pressure per square inch to push the tire down to the solid surface with better traction. In deep snow with no accessible high traction solid surface the goal is the opposite and you want wide tires or tracks to maximize the surface area supporting the car, decrease the pressure per square inch, and float on top of the powder. Great video, I was sad to miss the trip!
That's a great idea and it is actually a fairly complex subject. It also dovetails nicely with the "science" theme of the current video ha ha! It gets complicated because there are four types of snow crystals, a variety of different categories of snowfall, and several types of snow cover which may or may not be layered. That all distills into different road categories from black ice to powder.
@@OverlandPNW I agree, there are many different conditions. With different layers, different snowflakes, and the fact that the existing layers change with age, there are a huge number of possibilities. In fact, as a long time snow-wheeler, and engineer, I calculated out the number of different possibilities. It comes out to roughly infinity. :) There are two things I would add to your list for driving in deep snow (I'm sure you have done both of these, but I think they are counter-intuitive to many people new to snow wheeling): 1) In most (but not all) snow conditions, if you are plowing along nicely and your vehicle suddenly starts to bog down, BACK OFF on the gas, don't give it more gas. More gas is likely to make it dig in and get stuck, less gas will let it get back on top of the snow. 2) If the your vehicle comes to a stop, DON"T SPIN YOUR WHEELS. Spinning your wheels will create the divots mentioned. On my manual transmission, I actually hover my left foot over the clutch so I can push it in quickly to stops any wheel spin as fast as possible. If your rig stops moving forward, always try backing up first before spinning the wheels. 2b) The advanced version of not spinning your wheels is to always cut power JUST BEFORE your vehicle stops moving forward. It takes practice to know just when to cut power, but when done correctly it makes the odds of you being able to back up (instead of being stuck) much greater. Again, nearly every snow pack is different, so what works at one time will not work another time. Keep experimenting. Here's a video I found interesting on snow flakes. This expert suggests there are 35 different types of snow flakes: ua-cam.com/video/ao2Jfm35XeE/v-deo.html
@@andrewsnow7386 I agree about the infinity types of snow conditions ha ha! Those really are great points and it underscores just how much there is to snow driving. There is a real snow-driving skill set that develops with experience. There have been some great comments like yours from people that have developed that skill set. I could probably do a video called "Another 5 Snow Driving Tips."
Hey all from Canada, narrow tires are best in deep snow, the reason is simple, in snow unlike sand, your not trying to redistribute the weight, the snow cannot support your truck, your trying to cut trough the snow, that why large tires are not very efficient in snow they give more resistance and if you deflate it even worst. Over here winter tires are mandatory, so we have a lot of experience in dealing with it.
Just to correct you about the 3 peaks snow pictogram. For a tire to receive it, it just need to be 10% more effective on tamped surface than a 4 season tire. Also, Chinese companies can apply it on non-winter tire on demand, so yeah... don't rely on it to know if a tire is good in winter condition and do researches about your tires.
That is correct! I have a detailed section in the video description that states the same but it can't be repeated enough. So, thanks for the comment! Cheers and best wishes for 2022!
Great info! Just drove out of Breck through the massive snow storm on 01/06/2022 with my JK Unlimited (2.5 and 35's-Duratrac). This would have been very helpful. We didn't get stuck but I certainly was swimming through the snow. Appreciate you taking time to educate those of us less familiar with driving in these conditions.
@@OverlandPNW Hey man, I'm from the PNW as well and I love advice. I take my rig out a lot and this info will come in handy. what lake were you trying to get too?
@@David-rj1ru For snow wheeling, we go into (or try to go into) several different lakes. The roads are unremarkable forest service roads without snow but in the winter they are great for snow wheeling. What we do is choose any high mountain lake in the Central Cascades that has a relatively long forest service road leading to it (or to a trail head that goes to it). These roads generally go up hill toward the lake and the snow gets progressively more challenging. We always seem to find some fun doing that. By the way, your rafting videos were very cool. I Know the river but have never fished it. Hope the fishing was good! You guys navigated the rapids well!
Depends on the type of snow and the temperature. the last cold spell we had the snow was like gravel. There have been other times when we just barely got home with new studded tires on ugly snow just around the freezing point. Mind you this is on 17% grades. The other thing is to get into 4wd long before you have to. Don't wait till you are stuck on a hill to remember. Turn off traction control. It is not your friend in snow. It just slows you down and you do have to maintain momentum especially when going up hill. Carry chains. I have had to chain up all four wheels when a wet road changed to glare ice. When you have to pull yourself around your vehicle tires with a snowflake are not enought. Studded tires but they have their own problems.
Totally agree. I believe I hit most of these points in my written remarks in the video description but I appreciate the comment because it cannot be repeated enough. Cheers!
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@@OverlandPNW 100% fun! Unfortunately, winter wheeling is VERY limited where we live due to snowmobile/ATV laws BUT we still have logging roads to kick back in!
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Love snow. Tested out my rig I built in the summer for snow. Love it. Excursion is great. No matter the ice or snow. Pulled a half ton up a super steep icy hill with little effort. Got 33s on 16s with Dynapro ATMs in the front and dynpro AT2 on the rear. I have 4 snow plow rated ice breaker chains for traction boards and and for emergencies.
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Loved the video. I am about 100 miles north of you and love wheeling and snow wheeling near Mt Rainier. I normally wheel as a lone vehicle. I have a few tips. I always, snow wheeling, carry 2 sets of chains. Never used them but peace of mind is great. Trick is not to use them until you need to. This way you do not go further in than you should. Another trick is to always travel up hill on the way in, if you can. Gravity will help you get out. I love my army shovel. I can "rake" the snow out instead of depending on gravity to keep the snow on the shovel. Square shovels and or pointed shovels the snow can slide off as you try to shovel out. Yes it is a short handled shovel which means you maybe on your knees. This means you should carry some sort of barrier, plastic or otherwise. Something you should carry anyway. Great thing is it does not take up much room. Final thing. Tire pressure. My YJ weighs in about 3500 with 2 people and a trailer, TC-3. I came up with this weight going to the dump and they scale you going in and out. I am guessing that the trailer weighs at least 500 lbs. So I weigh about 3000 lbs with 2 people. Matt's Jeep, the yellow banana from Matt's towing. weighs in over 4000 lbs. He ran 8 psi in his tires. So given the tire rating of my tires and weight I run 17 front and 25 rear normally. I could run lower but this I believe this is safe for me and have the best control on the highway. Off road, I believe that 8 psi is more than a safe pressure and believe I could go down to 6 psi and still be somewhat safe. This is me and me knowing my vehicle. As Overland said, you need to figure out what is best for you and your vehicle. Get your vehicle weight, that way you know what is safe for you.
One of the best comments ever! Thanks for all the good tips. All well thought out and good practices. Totally agree about carrying chains for the peace of mind. Cheers!
@@OverlandPNW Thank you for the reply. I have to ask, what type of tire are you running? Looks like BFG All Terrain. Before yesterday I had never heard of a 3 Peak tire rating. I am running the BFG M+S 2 tires and love them. Yes, I know, not best for rock climbing or ice. All in all a good tire even though they are a bit noisy but not bad. Not like the old bias ply tires. Yes, I am old, LOL. Should check out my exploits on Rumble as Jeep60. I had more on UA-cam but they are not good to me so I dumped them.
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Awesome video I learned a lot from it! Im notorious at getting stuck in the smallest amount of snow, every year I get stuck in something. The other day I almost got stuck in a divot I wish I watched this video before going out haha. I have always wondered how to turn around on a narrow road with large snow banks. I have always avoided roads like that, that was very helpful thank you! It is very pretty there great camera work! Have a great day!
@@OverlandPNW Thanks so much we really appreciate it! It has been a very abnormally cold December, it should be interesting to see what January/February brings as they are usually the coldest months here!
Sweet video. We recovered a couple people yesterday who slid off of icy side roads here in Southern Oregon using our kinetic rope. I appreciate the tips on their use.
Rob, great to hear others are out there helping. Jon and I love that part of off-roading, the opportunity to help others…and in some cases be humble enough to accept help. Happy wheeling!
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Great video!!! I encountered some moderately heavy snow today while on a 4 lane highway. The temp was in the low 20s. The roads became snow covered quickly and covered by 2 to 3 inches of snow (my guess). I drove in 2WD for a while but eventually switched to 4WDH. Later I added the MTS (sand, dirt, mud lowest setting) and drove the rest of the way in 4WDH and MTS lowest setting. Made it home with no problems. My question is, even though the lowest MTS is for sand, dirt, mud, do you think it was appropriate for snow as well? Also, I don't think there is a speed limit recommendation for 4WDH is there? For some reason 55 mph comes to mind...thanks for the great videos!!!
Well done! Yes, I think the MTS Mud & Sand setting is generally the best for snow. To my knowledge, the word "snow" is only used once in the MTS section of the 4Runner Manual. On page 258 of the 2018 4Runner Manual, there is an MTS Terrain Type chart. It has a line for "Deep Snow." That chart shows the Mud & Sand setting as the preferred MTS setting for "Deep Snow." I have never found a speed limit recommendation in the Toyota Manual for 4WDH but I think 55 mph is a good one. Hope that helps. Cheers!
@@OverlandPNW Thanks. I think I remember reading that 55 mph or below was the speed requirement to shift from 2WH to 4WH and vice versa. Also I read (in some on-line 4WD article) to never drive above 55 while in 4WH (I think it had something to do with wear and binding on the 4WD systems). Thanks for the reply! Have a great 2022!!!
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The tire and PSI really depend on the situation. Higher PSI is actually better if there's hard pack and ice. You don't want floatation in that scenario. Also 3 peak tires which are usually an AT tire differ from full winter tires, which are not very aggressive for deep snow. I know every one craps on the duratracs but in the correct width and PSI for your rig they're great year round.
All good points! So true that the tire and PSI really depend on the situation. I've had a lot of good input from viewers. I could make a second video of just great viewer tips. Cheers!
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Actually, most of these tips are valid as long as you don't have snow chains. Chains are the game-changer in the snow, improve the traction around 10 times better so the track like you are showing in the video wouldn't be a problem at all and you would avoid bumping from one side of the road to another while driving. Nice video though, cheers!
I always carry chains , but, I would rather not put them on ... hardly any challenge with them on 😉 I love driving in the snow and making my own tracks , even have a tread that works well in the snow (like the old Good Year Wrangler) in spite of my living in So Cal so it's not like I get to drive in it often .. I got the impression that the bumping was deliberate
@@daviddowty7743 while I don't have any experience in deep snow chain use, I do know what you mean about traction without them on, far better to make your own tracks rather than drive on the packed down hard pack where several others have driven , I have also been surprised at how well you can do breaking trail
Awesome video and very interesting for us Kiwis as we get very little snow in North Island of New Zealand.Many thanks for a great video, thumbs up and greetings from Kiwiland,, Tony.
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Wish I could tell you but there are just too many variables. If the snow is wet concrete, it is harder to get through and you won't be able to drive in very deep snow. If it is light powdery stuff, then you can breeze through some deeper snow. I'm looking forward to this snow wheel'n season!
I love snow wheeling and have been doing it for over 40 years. I am also a tire junky and I have been selling them for over 35 years. I am always looking for the best snow tire for deep snow. Snow varies from location to location. I live in Wyoming and we have some very dry snow at times and it is horrible for any type of traction! I normally start with my Jeep at 10 psi and go down from there. My tire of choice is Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ in a 35x12.50x15. I am old school and I love my 15 inch wheels because I can get a very long tread contact patch and still have sidewall left. Several weeks ago I was elk hunting and we had about 8 inches of fresh snow, the snow was dry and what I like to call sugar snow, won't pack, can't make a snow ball and the only effective way to conquer it is with tires chains. I use ice bar chains that effectively turn my 35 inch tires into 38 inches. I spent several hours trying to recover some elk in high winds and close to two foot deep drifts that the wind would fill in my tracks every 15 minutes, horrible pain in the ***. It was nowhere near as fun as wheeling in heavy wet snow that packs good under the tires. I usually find that 10 psi is just a starting point and my Jeep does really well between 4 and 5 psi with a good wrinkle. I also have an atv with tracks that is a lot of fun but in the super cold months, normally January, the snow will be of the sugar variety and there are days when you can't even make progress with tracks or even snow shoes. Go home and wait for some warmer weather. My other must have for snow wheeling is traction adding devices in both axles. Right now I run air lockers, but for years I ran detroits front and rear. A tire that isn't pulling is a liability!
I've heard great things about the Mickey Thompsons. The long tread contact patch vs wide contact patch is something that a lot of people do not consider when making a tire choice. It makes a difference. Great input. Thanks for the comment!
7:16 the impromptu "Rotor Error" song is performed to the tune of Sister Christian from the band Night Ranger. Great throwback to the eighties! Did I guess it right?
I’m 0.49 seconds into this video and just had to hit pause to comment…by far, hands down, the best video already for this topic. As a Florida boy I’m excited to learn about driving in the snow vs what I’m used to down here at sea level. Thank you for putting in the time to make such great content!
Thanks and wow, great channel you have!
@@OverlandPNW - Thanks! Love your videos…even though I drive an F150 down here - lol. I almost purchased the Tundra TRD Pro though…great trucks!
Taking my F150 up into some east coast mountains this winter and am trying to get prepared now. My 35” Toyo Open Country RTs are not 3PMSF rated, but I do have 4-wheel drive and sufficient ground clearance with a 6” lift…just trying to decide on whether or not I need chains. I’m thinking I’d rather have them and not need them vs needing them and not having them. It’s my understanding you should put chains on before you ‘need them’ - so I’m assuming that’s only if I plan to take the truck off road into the snow, correct? I wouldn’t need chains for normal asphalt driving, would I? If you have a video on when to put chains on, I’d love to watch that! Thanks! Excited to have a better rig than my three brothers that will be on the trip with me. Lol
@@Financial_Awareness I'm a fan of Ford trucks. I had a F350 that I used to haul a travel trailer and loved it. I completely agree that having chains on hand is smart. It would be a bad situation to need them and not have them especially if you are traveling with family. In snow country, lots of people use chains during a heavy dump on asphalt roads. There are also a lot of highway mountain passes that require "traction devices" during certain times in the winter. What qualifies as a traction devices varies by state law but it is typically an all season tire, mountain snow flake rated tire, chains or studded tires (if allowed). Sounds like a fun trip with your brothers!
@@OverlandPNW - Thank you for taking the time to respond…really appreciate it! Happy Thanksgiving to you and your loved ones! Appreciate you sharing your knowledge in your videos…love’em! Keep it up!
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I am new to off roading - having just purchased a 4Runner. Your videos are an excellent education on how to use the vehicle in off road conditions. Thanks very much for taking the time an effort to create this content! Liked and subscribed.
Congrats on the new 4Runner! Thanks for watching and for the sub. We very much appreciate it!
A few things he didn't mention...
1. don't even try a road like that without another equally capable vehicle and operator and a good reason to go. If conditions worsen you are putting other people and your wallet in harms way to rescue you.
2. New fallen snow such as we see here can allow some progress but even with good clearance, deep snow being compressed under the vehicle will take the weight off your tires. Then you are hooped. Scoop shovel time.
3. A little warm weather changes the consistency of the snow dramatically and it becomes much harder to penetrate and gain traction.
4. Its the wrong tool for the task. Too many people want to pass through "nature" without experiencing it. A snowcat, mountain sled, or backcountry skis are more the ticket.
You made a great choice of vehicle for off roading! 4 runners are tough to beat. My dad has been buying tacomas and 4 runners since the 80s and they still continue to impress me
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Great video! A lot of good information I can use on my travels. I’ve also learned since this is the first time I’ve had a truck, that you can get into four-wheel-drive and low gear to help you get around in a lot of bad weather like snow.
Thanks! Nothing better than a truck with 4 wheel drive! Cheers and best wishes for 2022!
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Thanks guys for fun video. It was good to meet you on the trail. till next time
I was hoping you would comment! So Great to meet you on the trail and thanks for all your help!
@@OverlandPNW Pleasure was mine!
Great work out there! That was major snow you guys were in! I was up today trying to get to my campsite, but 3 feet of snow was too much for our stock 2020 Cherokee. Pushing snow up hill and was loosing traction, with chains on and aired down to 12. The 30" stock tires on 17" stock wheels just weren't enough to get me there. I need to build a dedicated snow buggy!
Thanks! Pushing snow uphill is definitely a tough one! I like the snow buggy idea! Cheers!
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Love seeing fellow 4Runner guys that are also knife nuts!
Can a guy own too many knives? Of course not 😏🙌
Yes! My Christmas present from Aired-Down Overland has a damascus steel blade with the Overland Pacific Northwest logo on it. It is in my pocket now and a thing of beauty! He just got soft shackles from me. Win for me ha ha!
You’re kind of the Mr Rogers of back country exploring! I love your low key voice overs and great footage. Always informative. Thanks!
Thanks for the comment! We are trying to keep it real but I could probably do with a voice over coach ha ha!
Brown Needles, my brother’s head is big enough, no compliments please 😄🙌
@@aired-downoverland9239 brothers… :)
Keep up the good work 👊
10 psi, that seems very low.Is this safe.Moreover you need to have a tire inflator ready to go
@@nicholassanzari9603 With the right wheels, 10 psi is not an issue. We’re running Method wheels with their beed grip technology and have never lost a beed. We also have onboard air compressors.
Cool vid, got to use all your truck toys however a helpful tip when it comes to the fire steel. You put the fire steel rod right up to your tinder and then pull back with the fire steel rod hand keeping the striker hand stationary. NOT push forward with the striker like you did in the video.
Reasons: 1. you have a good chance of hitting your tinder bundle knocking stuff around and having it bounce away.
2. You push to much air into the tinder bundle and it could dose your spark.
3. More sparks hit the target.
Yes you can still accomplish a fire the way you did it but those who know will know rookie move lol.
Yes, I have seen it done as you describe. Cheers and best wishes for 2022!
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For someone who loves the snow, I really enjoyed this video. I actually learned a few tips here. Thank you
Oh and I couldn’t help but notice the high clearance bumpers; those wouldn’t be coastal off roads bumper DIY weld kits?
Big thanks from one snow wheeling fan to another ! The silver 4Runner has a Southern Style Off-Road front bumper. The whit 4Runner has a CBI front bumper. Cheers!
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Excellent video. I don't know if I'll be trying that slide and drive maneuver to turn in tight spots anytime soon, but maybe one day. Thank you for the snow driving lesson, sir.
a good tip is to always "bring a 2nd vehicle". great video. I learned a lot :)
Hey, great content on your channel. I subbed and left some comments. Bringing a second vehicle is a pro tip for sure! Cheers and best wishes for 2022!
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Everyone that lives in snowy states should watch this. We live in Massachusetts so we were familiar with most of the tips, but I still learned things. My wife has a 4runner and I just got a Tacoma so now I want to go play. We just need straps and a winch. Snow would probably help too. Awesome video, thanks for making it.
Wow a 4Runner and a Tacoma! That the dream team of vehicles! The drone video of the 4Runner on your channel is an awesome video! Beautiful 4Runner! I left a comment. Many thanks and Cheers for the New Year!
@@OverlandPNW Thanks! The 4runner is her dream vehicle and the Tacoma is mine. Have a great new year!
Good advice! - i will forward it to my daughter, she got stuck in a ditch last WE out in NW-No-where.... lesson learned
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Just discovered your channel, I love the snow footage and the commentary is hilarious!
I drive my 2011 Passat in this kind of condition - East Europe (joke, almost). Great video. Thanks for contebt
Beautiful country. Thanks for taking us there!!
Thanks! Cheers and all the best for 2022!
It's cool to run in a heavy snowfall area～♪
Thanks! The old Mitsubishi Jeep in your videos is amazing! I love old jeeps. My first 4x4 was a 1967 Nissan Patrol.
THAT was some deep snow. Looks like you could get stuck out easily! The road actually looks very similar to those on Prince of Wales Island in Alaska were we lived for two decades. So beautiful. - The Chatty One
Thanks! I think you guys are in real snow country. So, I bet you've had a lot of fun snow runs!
@@OverlandPNW We DO but we have to go to the mountains to find it here in Wyoming. In Alaska, we had to dig out just to go to work. Fun show! - The Chatty One
It is so much fun watching you guys. Your content and knowledge is by far the best on this subject. Be safe and Merry Xmas.
Thanks! We try not to take ourselves too seriously and time on the trail with the right people seems to always lead to laughs!
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I’ve got chains for on road driving when it’s icy. Just an extra layer of safety. Off road in the fresh stuff they won’t help as much as low psi tires
Your Coburg Hills snow wheeling videos are cool! Having a set of chains is a good idea! Cheers!
@@OverlandPNW thanks haha. Was my first time driving in snow, have learned a lot since then
Wow that kinetic rope extraction looks very effective
Yes, the kinetic ropes work great! Cheers and thanks for the comment!
Man that’s some deep snow! It sucks getting stuck! Great video! love the backcountry trips! That’s some real backcountry 4x4 ing!
Thanks! It was a very fun day in the snow!
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I've driven in snow ❄️ my whole life and love it , but didn't think I was going to make it home last winter when I broke my front axle , 40's are not good in deep snow with only 2 wheel drive , but I made it
Wow broken axle...that must have been a long day!
And part of the night lol , I can laugh now
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I literally got stuck in the snow last week….dam snow divots!…..I got out a different way…..I had a hammer and broke the back 50% out of the divot out, the ice behind the tire and backed out of the divot….try it, it works well!
I like that strategy! I'll give it a try!
Man the Nissan is a beast! Looks really cool!
Totally agree! The Nissan is incredible.
Now I am ready to get out in the snow! I learned a lot. Great video!
Awesome! Thank you!
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I've 4-wheeled a lot, but not snow wheeling. Watching your "slide turn", I imagine my twin stick, engaging only the front axle might come in handy.
The CJ3 on you channel is the real deal! Yes, that twin stick would come in handy ha ha!
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Arb also makes a stretchable snatch strap
Yes, the ARB stretchable recovery straps are great!
Thank you so much! I’m new to back road driving and your videos are so helpful and fun!! Keep them coming!
Thanks! It's great to get feedback like that! Cheers!
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Loved seeing your wife behind the wheel! :)
Yes, she is awesome! Thanks!
Thanks! It was so peaceful and picturesque out there. I loved your Olympic Nat'l Park hike video for the same reason. It doesn't get more poetic than listening to the leaves, needles and limbs touch, rub and chime. The way the wind blows through the leaves and they dance upon each other, the weighted branches of snows falls down and blows across the forest floor and if you're lucky enough to see a four-legged critter out there too.... Pure elegance. Cheers!
You have wife that loves 4 wd.. awesome. Like the video.
Thanks! Yes, she is awesome! Cheers and best wishes for 2022!
@@OverlandPNWback atcha sir. Gotta find me a woman like that, throw in motor cycles and Elk hunting just for fun. 😆. Lol. Happy 2022 to you and yours.
Good stuff guys
That snow was deep but you were just cruising along easily, nicely done!
Cheers 🍻
Thanks! I just watched and comment on your videos. Cool rock slabs and rock stair cases! You should post more.
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Great video! All that snow you guys have looks so fun! Also good info on the kinetic ropes! I didn’t know you needed to let them rest!
Thanks! I'm enjoying your snow videos as well.
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Nice video, tips that I will keep in mind when I move north. 🥶☺️
Big thanks for watching and for the comment!
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This video is great. So we'll put together. Lots of good info. Love it.
Thanks! Coming from you that means a lot. I've been catching up on your videos today!
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I will use these tips for driving while working this winter. 😋 The low tire pressure is not an issue, since me tires always seem to have a slow leak. haha Watching you follow your brother was pretty funny. You are swerving all over that trail like a drunk. Those kinetic ropes are just like rubber bands. Too short it will sling shot the towed vehicle into your butt? Great tips! Happy new year!
Thanks! Your video on September Dinks was good. It has been unusually slow fishing for me and a lot of guys I know this fall. What's going on with the fishery??
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GREAT TIPS!!! I got sum new Toyo AT3s installed & waiting for some snow nearby upstate SC 😂 Im sure I’ll have to travel outside my state but BRING IT ON OL MAN WINTER!
Those Toyo AT3's are great tires! Yes, now you need some snow!
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Great video and merry Christmas to both of you and Steve. We don't have any snow locally and have to drive 200km to get some snow.
All the best for 2022 and I look forward to the video. Best regards.
Thanks and all the best to your for 2022 as well! By the way, your Underwater Metal Detection video at Waiake Beach was awesome!
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Mate your channel has exploded... how'd ya do it... Love these snow videos... Some of that snow is so deep!
Big congrats on your new caravan! It is a beauty! Yes, the channel is growing...thanks for noticing! I wish I knew the secret! I just do my thing and cross my fingers ha ha!
I have a 3rd gen tacoma trd off road. Just got falken wildpeak at3w tires. No lift or anyrhing. Im in south west WA. Took it up larch no issues. May go up tomorrow. Have a rifle i need to sight in
Very nice set of tires! One of the best. I think Larch is supposed to get fresh snow tomorrow.
Looks like a awesome trail. I definitely would have either driven through the branches on the downed tree or wiped out he chainsaw to continue the adventure. I have a 92 4runer so im so too afraid of any additional scars from trees.
Yeah, we definitely should have chainsawed that tree! We were getting close to a lake and it would have been nice to make it there.
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what a great video! Love you explanations! there is lost ore snow now!
We definitely love a good snow run! Cheers and thanks for the comment!
@@OverlandPNW you're welcome! I'll watch any wheelin and camping videos you make!
Thanks for the snow driving lessons!
Thanks man!
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Been enjoying your content...Subscribed!! Thanks for all the information.
Big thanks for the sub! The support is truly appreciated! Cheers!
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BFG K02's are a good choice.
I agree about KO2s. Thanks!
A whole lot of folks think that because they have 4X4 and AWD that they are good to go.
Tires tires tires!!!
Tire, tires, tires! Truer words were never spoken!
Don't think I will start using the term but this is the first time I ever heard it called a divet.
Following vehicle the driver was not able to stay in the tracks. Was this done for the video? Nothing worse than having a person not able to follow the tracks and literally screwing up the road.
Every snow condition requires different techniques. Being use to powder I favour a narrow taller studded tire. Overall we have found with the local conditions they generally work best. But there is an exception to every rule.
Definitely an interesting video and have subscribed. Thanks
Thanks! Great comment. The narrow, taller studded tire would definitely be a good choice and have had the same input from other viewers. Cheers!
That Nissan is actually a Nissan Patrol...also known as the most capable off road vehicle in history with most off road prizes won in competitions. The Patrol's off road ability is as legendary ar Toyota's reliability. If you want the most off road capable vehicle you take the patrol....if you need the most reliable overland vehicle you take a land cruiser...each have their own specialty.
The owner said it was a Nissan Safari. I actually did not know the difference between a Nissan Safari and a Nissan Patrol. It turns out that they are the same thing. The different names (and some different specifications) were used for marketing purposes in different parts of the world. The name "Nissan Safari" was used in the Japanese domestic market. At least that was what I was told by the owner. I did a little internet research and that seemed to check out as correct. Regardless, it was an amazing vehicle. And, I agree that they are known as one of the most capable off-road vehicles in history. I once owned a Nissan Patrol. In fact, I learned to off-road in a 1967 Nissan Patrol. It had manual locking hubs, a hand crank start (no kidding), a manual transmission, and a clutch so hard to depress, I'd swear it came from an old tractor. Not a single modern "traction control" device of any kind. I really miss that rig!
@@OverlandPNW very nice! I would love one of those. Maybe in a few years.
Great Video! That poor Nissan Patrol!! He was a bit rough 😅
Thanks! It was a very nice Nissan Patrol!
@@OverlandPNW they are great vehicles! I’ve just posted a video on the little Lada Niva.. if you have time please check it out 🙏
Cool video!!
Thanks and very cool DIY platform you built for your 5th Gen!
Love the content ❤
they are very nice snow mobiles
There were times I thought we might need a snowmobile ha ha!
Maybe it isn't great for the rope to make long pulls, but it is real nice for the vehicles. I wouldn't do a 30 mile tow, but a mile or so down the beach is far better with the cushion.
I've certainly seen that done and you are right, it is a smoother pull.
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at the 13 min mark i would have liked to see an effort with crawl control to get out of that mild divet.
We plan to do some crawl control tests in the snow. We have done a couple in prior videos. For example, in the Video Snow Wheeling Nonsense, there is a snow crawl control test around 2:48. Cheers!
Would you want to do a video on your current set up tires/lift etc
We don't have a video about our tires/lift planned but I can tell you what I have on my rig. On the front, I have an Icon Stage 2, 3” Lift. On the back, I have Old Man Emu rear springs. My tires are currently BF Goodrich T/A K02 315/70R17 on Method 703 Wheels. However, I think I like the 285/75R17s better. They are easier to fit.
I'd call that a Snow Waffle!👍🏼
Yes, Snow Waffle is a way better term! I wish I'd thought of that!
Love you videos and filming style. Also didn’t realize we were already friends on Instagram 😂
Awesome! I just subbed to your UA-cam and left some comments. Cheers!
Very nice video, but I don’t understand why don’t you use The off road Control, and the rear locker or A track ? You keep using ropes to pull out your brother I just wonder why? He he has a 4 runner with all the off road Features
You can still get stuck even with the traction control features. Sometimes the snow is too deep or too slippery and the tires just spin even with the traction control on. So, then you need to get pulled out. Good question!
Awesome video! great tips!!!
Thanks! I just watched your video where the Hummer was doing donuts in the snow....so cool !
@@OverlandPNW it was a lot of fun!!!!!
very cool, and helpful
Thanks! Cheers and best wishes for 2022!
Thanks for the great info 👍👍
Thanks so much for the comment!
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It was an interesting video☘️👌
Thanks!
I like u guys! New sub.
Thanks for subbing!
Awesome video, guys. I am jealous of that snow! I love what you did putting your logo next to the TRD badge. The tire pressure is my go to trick. I lower the tire pressure even with my fwd car when we were in upstate New York all depends on the tire of course. Your brother got a UA-cam channel right? He looks familiar. Have a happy new year guys, stay warm!
Thanks! Yes, my brother has a UA-cam channel. It is Aired-Down Overland. The link is in the video description. Happy New Year to you as well! I'm hoping for a great 2022!
@@OverlandPNW Same to you man! Yes, I have come across his channel before for his installation of a suspension kit from iron man I think. My other account is subscribed to his, I don't think he uploaded anything in a while though.
@@maxdexpeditions He has a video almost done. I keep hassling him to finish it. You should drop a comment on his channel saying more videos please ha ha!
@@OverlandPNW oh nice I sure will 😆 🤙🏼
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Have you seen lolo overland in Troutdale? Great video!
I have not but I will check it out. Thanks!
Just checked out their channel. Awesome content!
@@OverlandPNW they have a lot of good stuff in their shop too. Though your rig looks NICE! Already.
Great tips 👍👍
Big thanks! Cheers!
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Is there ever a time that you use or recommend using tire chains? Really love your videos.
Chains are one of those topics that off-roaders can debate for hours around the campfire. For off-road backcountry driving, there are videos on why chains work and others on why they don't work. For me, there is no doubt that they really shine when you can get down to some hard pack. I like the idea of carrying a set with me as a safety measure but don't like the hassle of using them unless I really really need to. I am usually with other people and it is easy (and fun ha ha) to get pulled out if I get stuck.
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I live in Utah where some of the heaviest snow in the country is. 90% of this video is correct but I have never had to use snow tires I believe the whole snow tire thing is kind of a scam like wearing underwear. Anyway good video …
I lived in Utah for several years and know what you mean. I talked a little bit about snow tires in the comment section. Tires rated with the 3PMSF symbol only means that that the tires’ traction is supposed to be at least 10% superior on medium-packed snow compared to a generic all-season tire. And, that traction is only tested for straight-line acceleration, not breaking or anything else. So, driver experience is always the most important thing when it comes to winter driving.
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Thanks!
9:10 Apparently another tip is to bring a shovel lol!
A shovel is a great idea! The funny thing is I had two in my 4Runner but was to lazy to walk over and get one ha ha!
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I would have liked to have seen the actual tread on your tires.
Sorry about that. They are BF Goodrich T/A K02 315/70R17.
@@OverlandPNW Thank you. My new ones are yokohama geolandar MT G003. They are working surprisingly well in deep snow, and I have been curious how well other tread patterns work. Yours seem to get you right through as well.
Is this off of Hwy 35? Great video 🙌🏽
Thanks! I just watched your videos and subbed. Hope you post some more. You are off-roading in some awesome areas. Yes, this was filmed off that hwy. Some roads, like Bennet Pass Rd., close Dec 1st and are only open to snowmobiles. But, a lot of the major roads remain open and have great snow wheeling.
Actually, looking at map it was off 26 going south from gov camp.
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What kind of tires are you guys running in this video?
I am running BF Goodrich T/A K02 315/70R17. My brother Steve also has K02s. His are: 285/75R17
Nice! Have you ever tried the Falken Wildpeaks or know much about their traction?
@@nickford400 I have not tried Falken Wildpeaks but I have heard good things about the A/T3Ws. One of the things I like about them is that they are not super heavy like some All-Terrain tires. I pay attention to tire weight because the 4Runner does not have a monster of a motor ha ha!
Contrary to popular belief, airing a tire down does NOT make it wider!!! Yes, it increases the length of the tread patch on the ground but a 10" wide tread pattern does not magically grow to 11.5" wide by letting air out. It would be like your rig going from 84" wide to 90" wide by taking everything out of the bed......
There are definitely some loose semantics at play in the articles about airing down. You are certainly correct that the width of the tread patch does not change. Maybe a better way to say it is that since airing down allows the tire to flex over uneven surfaces, it provides a wider "contact patch." In other words, it allows more of the full "tread patch" to stay in contact with the ground.
@@OverlandPNW
Yes, but the width never changes.
Send some of that white stuff to northeastern Pennsylvania lol
Wish I could ha ha! Everyone should get some snow at least for a week or two!
@@OverlandPNW haaahaa lol ikr take care dude 👍
Where is this which road?
Love your mtn bike videos! The post canyon on was awesome! This video was filmed close to Gov Camp. There are several open roads off 26 and 35.
Been snow wheeling in the Mt Hood National Forest since 1968. Always found that a small square point shovel was my best friend. Sometimes called a sand shovel. Makes those divots you speak of go away very quickly. And always carry chains with me as a back up safety device. The chains i use are called ice-breaker chains and can be purchased at Les Schwab. They have small steel bars on the cross sections and grip the snow like the claws on a cougar. Love your red plastic snow boards. Light weight and do not take up much space in your rig. Safe wheeling everyone.
Great tips! I've had a lot of good tips from viewers. I may have to do a follow-up video with all the viewer tips. I'll check out those chains. I don't like the hassle of putting them on but as you said, they are a great back up safety device. Thanks for the input and safe wheeling to you as well!
Yes V-Bar chains are a great backup.
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You should do a video explaining common “snow ratings” and what they actually mean. There are actually several snow ratings floating around that mean different things and have varying requirements. Might be interesting.
#1 on my personal list of snow driving tips would be to know the type of snow conditions you are dealing with because the best tool for the job in snow varies quite a bit depending on the snow you are in. For example, a narrow (fully inflated) tire is actually superior in situations when there is a solid surface below a layer of snow that can be reached before the axles and undercarriage of the car hang up on the snow or if there is enough snow that it just compresses into ice under the tire. Skinny tire, less surface area, so there is more pressure per square inch to push the tire down to the solid surface with better traction. In deep snow with no accessible high traction solid surface the goal is the opposite and you want wide tires or tracks to maximize the surface area supporting the car, decrease the pressure per square inch, and float on top of the powder.
Great video, I was sad to miss the trip!
That's a great idea and it is actually a fairly complex subject. It also dovetails nicely with the "science" theme of the current video ha ha! It gets complicated because there are four types of snow crystals, a variety of different categories of snowfall, and several types of snow cover which may or may not be layered. That all distills into different road categories from black ice to powder.
@@OverlandPNW I agree, there are many different conditions. With different layers, different snowflakes, and the fact that the existing layers change with age, there are a huge number of possibilities. In fact, as a long time snow-wheeler, and engineer, I calculated out the number of different possibilities. It comes out to roughly infinity. :)
There are two things I would add to your list for driving in deep snow (I'm sure you have done both of these, but I think they are counter-intuitive to many people new to snow wheeling):
1) In most (but not all) snow conditions, if you are plowing along nicely and your vehicle suddenly starts to bog down, BACK OFF on the gas, don't give it more gas. More gas is likely to make it dig in and get stuck, less gas will let it get back on top of the snow.
2) If the your vehicle comes to a stop, DON"T SPIN YOUR WHEELS. Spinning your wheels will create the divots mentioned. On my manual transmission, I actually hover my left foot over the clutch so I can push it in quickly to stops any wheel spin as fast as possible. If your rig stops moving forward, always try backing up first before spinning the wheels.
2b) The advanced version of not spinning your wheels is to always cut power JUST BEFORE your vehicle stops moving forward. It takes practice to know just when to cut power, but when done correctly it makes the odds of you being able to back up (instead of being stuck) much greater.
Again, nearly every snow pack is different, so what works at one time will not work another time. Keep experimenting.
Here's a video I found interesting on snow flakes. This expert suggests there are 35 different types of snow flakes:
ua-cam.com/video/ao2Jfm35XeE/v-deo.html
@@andrewsnow7386 I agree about the infinity types of snow conditions ha ha! Those really are great points and it underscores just how much there is to snow driving. There is a real snow-driving skill set that develops with experience. There have been some great comments like yours from people that have developed that skill set. I could probably do a video called "Another 5 Snow Driving Tips."
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Hey all from Canada, narrow tires are best in deep snow, the reason is simple, in snow unlike sand, your not trying to redistribute the weight, the snow cannot support your truck, your trying to cut trough the snow, that why large tires are not very efficient in snow they give more resistance and if you deflate it even worst. Over here winter tires are mandatory, so we have a lot of experience in dealing with it.
Just to correct you about the 3 peaks snow pictogram. For a tire to receive it, it just need to be 10% more effective on tamped surface than a 4 season tire. Also, Chinese companies can apply it on non-winter tire on demand, so yeah... don't rely on it to know if a tire is good in winter condition and do researches about your tires.
That is correct! I have a detailed section in the video description that states the same but it can't be repeated enough. So, thanks for the comment! Cheers and best wishes for 2022!
Although it may be true 3pms ratings are required for Canadians in the winter.
@@Zanderthelab Yes they are required, but I mean it doesnt guaranteed that the tire is good enough for our winter.
@@Wildhorn666 I suppose. I wouldn’t buy non American made tires. Cuz 3pms is an American rating isn’t it?
Don't buy Chinese manufactured tires
Great info! Just drove out of Breck through the massive snow storm on 01/06/2022 with my JK Unlimited (2.5 and 35's-Duratrac). This would have been very helpful. We didn't get stuck but I certainly was swimming through the snow. Appreciate you taking time to educate those of us less familiar with driving in these conditions.
Thanks man! Comments like these are truly appreciated! Loved your Moab dirt bike video. We used to do an annual dirt bike trip near Moab. Cheers!
@@OverlandPNW Hey man, I'm from the PNW as well and I love advice. I take my rig out a lot and this info will come in handy. what lake were you trying to get too?
@@David-rj1ru For snow wheeling, we go into (or try to go into) several different lakes. The roads are unremarkable forest service roads without snow but in the winter they are great for snow wheeling. What we do is choose any high mountain lake in the Central Cascades that has a relatively long forest service road leading to it (or to a trail head that goes to it). These roads generally go up hill toward the lake and the snow gets progressively more challenging. We always seem to find some fun doing that. By the way, your rafting videos were very cool. I Know the river but have never fished it. Hope the fishing was good! You guys navigated the rapids well!
@@OverlandPNW Thank you friend. that was my first time ever in a pontoon.
Great videos. Thanks for not adding any stupid music, getting straight to the point and being informative!
Depends on the type of snow and the temperature. the last cold spell we had the snow was like gravel. There have been other times when we just barely got home with new studded tires on ugly snow just around the freezing point. Mind you this is on 17% grades. The other thing is to get into 4wd long before you have to. Don't wait till you are stuck on a hill to remember. Turn off traction control. It is not your friend in snow. It just slows you down and you do have to maintain momentum especially when going up hill. Carry chains. I have had to chain up all four wheels when a wet road changed to glare ice. When you have to pull yourself around your vehicle tires with a snowflake are not enought. Studded tires but they have their own problems.
Totally agree. I believe I hit most of these points in my written remarks in the video description but I appreciate the comment because it cannot be repeated enough. Cheers!
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Another killer video! Love the tips! Man that is some seriously deep snow you guys are plowing through. Keep up the good work!
Thanks! It was a ton of fun. We want to get an earlier start and push through to the lake and camp next time.
@@OverlandPNW
One word. Dynamite.
Helps clear trees. 🤣
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What a great video for those who are JUST getting into wheeling, especially in the winter. Love it!! 🤘
Big thanks! There is just something fun about winter wheeling!
@@OverlandPNW
100% fun! Unfortunately, winter wheeling is VERY limited where we live due to snowmobile/ATV laws BUT we still have logging roads to kick back in!
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Love snow. Tested out my rig I built in the summer for snow. Love it. Excursion is great. No matter the ice or snow. Pulled a half ton up a super steep icy hill with little effort. Got 33s on 16s with Dynapro ATMs in the front and dynpro AT2 on the rear. I have 4 snow plow rated ice breaker chains for traction boards and and for emergencies.
I checked out your channel and subbed. Your Excursion is legit! Also, nice job on our video about what to bring overlanding! Cheers for 2022!
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Loved the video. I am about 100 miles north of you and love wheeling and snow wheeling near Mt Rainier. I normally wheel as a lone vehicle. I have a few tips. I always, snow wheeling, carry 2 sets of chains. Never used them but peace of mind is great. Trick is not to use them until you need to. This way you do not go further in than you should. Another trick is to always travel up hill on the way in, if you can. Gravity will help you get out.
I love my army shovel. I can "rake" the snow out instead of depending on gravity to keep the snow on the shovel. Square shovels and or pointed shovels the snow can slide off as you try to shovel out. Yes it is a short handled shovel which means you maybe on your knees. This means you should carry some sort of barrier, plastic or otherwise. Something you should carry anyway. Great thing is it does not take up much room.
Final thing. Tire pressure. My YJ weighs in about 3500 with 2 people and a trailer, TC-3. I came up with this weight going to the dump and they scale you going in and out. I am guessing that the trailer weighs at least 500 lbs. So I weigh about 3000 lbs with 2 people. Matt's Jeep, the yellow banana from Matt's towing. weighs in over 4000 lbs. He ran 8 psi in his tires. So given the tire rating of my tires and weight I run 17 front and 25 rear normally. I could run lower but this I believe this is safe for me and have the best control on the highway. Off road, I believe that 8 psi is more than a safe pressure and believe I could go down to 6 psi and still be somewhat safe. This is me and me knowing my vehicle. As Overland said, you need to figure out what is best for you and your vehicle. Get your vehicle weight, that way you know what is safe for you.
One of the best comments ever! Thanks for all the good tips. All well thought out and good practices. Totally agree about carrying chains for the peace of mind. Cheers!
@@OverlandPNW
Thank you for the reply. I have to ask, what type of tire are you running? Looks like BFG All Terrain. Before yesterday I had never heard of a 3 Peak tire rating. I am running the BFG M+S 2 tires and love them. Yes, I know, not best for rock climbing or ice. All in all a good tire even though they are a bit noisy but not bad. Not like the old bias ply tires. Yes, I am old, LOL.
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Awesome video I learned a lot from it! Im notorious at getting stuck in the smallest amount of snow, every year I get stuck in something. The other day I almost got stuck in a divot I wish I watched this video before going out haha. I have always wondered how to turn around on a narrow road with large snow banks. I have always avoided roads like that, that was very helpful thank you! It is very pretty there great camera work! Have a great day!
Thanks! Hey I'm really enjoying your channel. You guys are great. That's some serious cold weather you have been out in!
@@OverlandPNW Thanks so much we really appreciate it! It has been a very abnormally cold December, it should be interesting to see what January/February brings as they are usually the coldest months here!
When you want to turn around on a narrow road pull your e brake and slide your rig around in a 180
@@xafbxmoto269 Like a tactical "J" turn!
@@OverlandPNW Exactly 👍
Sweet video. We recovered a couple people yesterday who slid off of icy side roads here in Southern Oregon using our kinetic rope. I appreciate the tips on their use.
Thanks! And .... awesome of you to help those people! We need more people doing stuff like that! Cheers!
Rob, great to hear others are out there helping. Jon and I love that part of off-roading, the opportunity to help others…and in some cases be humble enough to accept help. Happy wheeling!
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Loved it mate, the scenery is amazing and we have some pretty good stuff in Australia. If you ever get over here be sure to catch up with us.
I can safely say that doing some off-roading in Australia is a dream location for both Jon and I.
Thanks and I agree with Aired-Down Overland...Australia would be a dream location for off-roading!
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Great video!!! I encountered some moderately heavy snow today while on a 4 lane highway. The temp was in the low 20s. The roads became snow covered quickly and covered by 2 to 3 inches of snow (my guess). I drove in 2WD for a while but eventually switched to 4WDH. Later I added the MTS (sand, dirt, mud lowest setting) and drove the rest of the way in 4WDH and MTS lowest setting. Made it home with no problems. My question is, even though the lowest MTS is for sand, dirt, mud, do you think it was appropriate for snow as well?
Also, I don't think there is a speed limit recommendation for 4WDH is there? For some reason 55 mph comes to mind...thanks for the great videos!!!
Well done! Yes, I think the MTS Mud & Sand setting is generally the best for snow. To my knowledge, the word "snow" is only used once in the MTS section of the 4Runner Manual. On page 258 of the 2018 4Runner Manual, there is an MTS Terrain Type chart. It has a line for "Deep Snow." That chart shows the Mud & Sand setting as the preferred MTS setting for "Deep Snow." I have never found a speed limit recommendation in the Toyota Manual for 4WDH but I think 55 mph is a good one. Hope that helps. Cheers!
@@OverlandPNW Thanks. I think I remember reading that 55 mph or below was the speed requirement to shift from 2WH to 4WH and vice versa. Also I read (in some on-line 4WD article) to never drive above 55 while in 4WH (I think it had something to do with wear and binding on the 4WD systems). Thanks for the reply! Have a great 2022!!!
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@@ottouring Thanks. You have a great rig OTT. Enjoy your journeys! 👍
The tire and PSI really depend on the situation.
Higher PSI is actually better if there's hard pack and ice. You don't want floatation in that scenario.
Also 3 peak tires which are usually an AT tire differ from full winter tires, which are not very aggressive for deep snow.
I know every one craps on the duratracs but in the correct width and PSI for your rig they're great year round.
All good points! So true that the tire and PSI really depend on the situation. I've had a lot of good input from viewers. I could make a second video of just great viewer tips. Cheers!
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Actually, most of these tips are valid as long as you don't have snow chains. Chains are the game-changer in the snow, improve the traction around 10 times better so the track like you are showing in the video wouldn't be a problem at all and you would avoid bumping from one side of the road to another while driving. Nice video though, cheers!
True about chains! In one of our other snow videos, one of our drivers put chains on his Jeep Wrangler. It was like a Jeep snowcat with those chains.
I always carry chains , but, I would rather not put them on ... hardly any challenge with them on 😉 I love driving in the snow and making my own tracks , even have a tread that works well in the snow (like the old Good Year Wrangler) in spite of my living in So Cal so it's not like I get to drive in it often .. I got the impression that the bumping was deliberate
Chains don't do anything in deep snow especially when actually breaking trail
@@daviddowty7743 while I don't have any experience in deep snow chain use, I do know what you mean about traction without them on, far better to make your own tracks rather than drive on the packed down hard pack where several others have driven , I have also been surprised at how well you can do breaking trail
How about the new snow socks?
Awesome video and very interesting for us Kiwis as we get very little snow in North Island of New Zealand.Many thanks for a great video, thumbs up and greetings from Kiwiland,, Tony.
Thanks! Love your channel. We are a big hunt/fish family. Very nice fish you caught in your last video! I subbed to your channel.
@@OverlandPNW Thanks and we love your videos too and subbed too, regards,, Tony.
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If the lowest point on my vehicle is 11 inches. How deep of fresh snow can wheel in? I have k02s w/ chains as well
Wish I could tell you but there are just too many variables. If the snow is wet concrete, it is harder to get through and you won't be able to drive in very deep snow. If it is light powdery stuff, then you can breeze through some deeper snow. I'm looking forward to this snow wheel'n season!
I love snow wheeling and have been doing it for over 40 years. I am also a tire junky and I have been selling them for over 35 years. I am always looking for the best snow tire for deep snow. Snow varies from location to location. I live in Wyoming and we have some very dry snow at times and it is horrible for any type of traction! I normally start with my Jeep at 10 psi and go down from there. My tire of choice is Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ in a 35x12.50x15. I am old school and I love my 15 inch wheels because I can get a very long tread contact patch and still have sidewall left. Several weeks ago I was elk hunting and we had about 8 inches of fresh snow, the snow was dry and what I like to call sugar snow, won't pack, can't make a snow ball and the only effective way to conquer it is with tires chains. I use ice bar chains that effectively turn my 35 inch tires into 38 inches. I spent several hours trying to recover some elk in high winds and close to two foot deep drifts that the wind would fill in my tracks every 15 minutes, horrible pain in the ***. It was nowhere near as fun as wheeling in heavy wet snow that packs good under the tires. I usually find that 10 psi is just a starting point and my Jeep does really well between 4 and 5 psi with a good wrinkle. I also have an atv with tracks that is a lot of fun but in the super cold months, normally January, the snow will be of the sugar variety and there are days when you can't even make progress with tracks or even snow shoes. Go home and wait for some warmer weather. My other must have for snow wheeling is traction adding devices in both axles. Right now I run air lockers, but for years I ran detroits front and rear. A tire that isn't pulling is a liability!
I've heard great things about the Mickey Thompsons. The long tread contact patch vs wide contact patch is something that a lot of people do not consider when making a tire choice. It makes a difference. Great input. Thanks for the comment!
7:16 the impromptu "Rotor Error" song is performed to the tune of Sister Christian from the band Night Ranger. Great throwback to the eighties! Did I guess it right?
You got it! Throw back to 1983. Classic!
I like this! We will have to do more song contests ha ha!
Nice photography and thanks for the useful tips. Happy New Year to you and your family. Toyo 12
Thank you for the kind words!
Hi! The winter forest is very beautiful. Is the wife not afraid to drive a car on an extreme route? Cool.
Thanks! Yes, my wife likes to drive even on an extreme route!