I took the chance on the wrg5 over the michelin cc2 and couldn't find any allseason contact 2 anywhere. Hybrid fwd car in ny. Can't wait for an actual comparison now lol
This is my second winter running Outpost AT's. I hunt, fish and camp in the Canadian Rockies where good AT's come into their own. These tires have been outstanding, great mud and snow traction while ice performance is ok (but 4 wheel drive helps that). Tire wear has been minimal and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend these tires for use similar to mine. Thanks for the great reviews, I watch them all. Cheers.
@@TyMYLINE I have them on my E350 and they are significantly quieter than the Hankook Dynapro AT/M that got replaced. The Dynapro was known for being a quiet, but aggressive tire. But more modern tires like the Outpost and Falken Wildpeak are far superior in every way.
@@rogalmarketingagency I have the LT Outpost nAT on an F-150 and so far so good on washed out logging roads with tire eating rocks. I don't offroad per say but I do drive pretty rough logging roads in Maine and so far they have performed well. It's unclear if the LT rated tires are actually 10-ply but they do carry a replacement warranty and have the aramid sidewall which is why I purchased them over 10-ply Wildpeaks. Logging roads here are graded with shale so the biggest hazard here is sidewall slices and so far so good. I do think the LTs are a little more slippery feeling accelerating quickly on dry pavement and rain vs my old Duratracs but overall I've been happy. One slight downside is the aggressive tread (maybe only on the LTs, not sure) picks up and holds pretty big rocks/gravel and will spew them out when you get up to speed back on the black top. I run studded Hakkas on my truck in the winter and was so impressed by them that I took a chance on the nATs when it was time to replace my 3-season tires.
VINDICATION! I love this channel, and really wanted to base my tire purchase off one of these review videos. BUT, they did not review the Nokian AT last year, when I needed to make my purchase. So I took the risk and purchased them before the Tyre Reviews review. SO HAPPY the AT tested so well! - FYI, I have just clicked over 10,000 miles on these tires. I am running them on a 2022 Honda Ridgeline. They are AS QUIET as the stock tires. They don't look like they've worn at all. They do not seem to have had any impact on my gas mileage. They look good in real life (bold/rugged, but not overly so). I would weigh in on the snow performance, but I got them at the end of winter and only ran them in 'real snow' (6"+) maybe 7-10 days. The worked great, but I can't say 'they are great' until I get a full winter on them. Absolutely recommend them. - Thank you Tyre Reviews for reviewing these tires!!!
When winter arrives, I use winter tires... or tyres. This is just a dumb comment for the algorithm of this channel and to support the hard work that goes into putting together these reviews/tests.
@Tyrereviews could you do a head to head comparison of the winter ( mountain peak/snowflake) rated AT tires? I really liked the inclusion of the Nokian AT in this test. I live in a fairly remote area that has a lot of gravel and muddy roads as well as asphalt. To add to this we see -40 temps. It would be great if it included the high end BFG, Goodyear, Cooper, and for fun a Moto master or big box budget equivalent. I’ve run the Goodyear Dura track that seems to stay pretty pliable in the cold, so fair on the snow, and decent in the mud. I’ve also tried the General Grabber which preformed quite well on ice and snow at temps below -20c but turned into a sway motion gum-ball at warmer temps and felt unsafe on a fully loaded large suv in the warmer weather. Yes we also run dedicated friction winters on the smaller vehicles and cars. But they’re not always an option for the largest SUV’s and Full-size trucks that must also tackle the mud and ruff of the dirt paths
What a great review. I have been considering the Nokian nAT vs the cooper discover, and Falken wild peaks for my sprinter van. Thanks again! Nokians are at the top of my list.
I ran Nokian Rotiiva year round for 3 years on my Honda Element upstate NY working in utility scale solar- rocks, mud, snow. Love them so I will be getting NAT's this Spring to replace them. Thanks! Great video.
I love your tire tests and look forward to further testing of the Outpost nAT. I'd like to see a winter and off-road comparison between the nAT's, MT Baja Boss AT, Falken Wildpeak AT3W, MileStar Patagonia AT Pro, Cooper Discoverer Road+Trail (the updated/replacement of the AT3 4S) and a BFG KO3 , in a non OEM size.
I got just over 50,000 MILES out of my Nokian ONE. They've worn evenly and held up well in 4 seasons, with no issues, even held their air in between tire rotations - never had to add any air. Well short of the tread warranty, but I think I will get them again. They have not been amazing in the snow, but they did perform better than the Pirelli Scorpion Winter tires they replaced in the middle of winter in 2022. And the Nokian ONE have been outstanding in wet weather.
I am getting a set of Nokian Outpost nAT 275/60/R20 tires fitted in a weeks time. I plan to run them from March until the end of November and switch to my Nokian Hakka 10 Thank you - from Canada!
As a previous owner of the WRG3’s for many years and have since moved onto the WRG4’s I can not stress how versatile this tire is. I run them on my 4.2 V8 Touareg and they definitely get out through the snow and slush for Snowboarding in Tahoe during the winter. But also they outperform in the Wet weather as well. Hands down the best All weather tire on the Market. Did I mention they are rated for 160MPH as well 😏
Nokian nAt LT 275 70 r18 on 2020 f150 Right around 3,000 miles so far. These are the real deal. Currently-20 to -40F temps. Deep snow, packed roads snow, slush, ice. I can even get around in 2wd where I had to go 4wd before 4wd even better of course. I drive Steep drive way 200’ and streets all the time. They are tested daily in the snow. Great on highway. LOW noise. Running 38-44psi. Little bumpy with no weight in bed on back roads at 44. Bump up to 55-60 with full bed payload. Haven’t quite figured the best psi. Need to chalk test. Down side for trucks if you want a real big tire nothing over 33.5” yet. But I wanted something I can drive cross country highway and be good in snow and off-road when needed. I drive dirt roads and highway. They do kick gravel but I have no wheel poke. This is the best overall so far without going true winter/studded (which I have on another vehicle).
I can’t wait till you can finally test the new Hankook iON EVO tires. I have the all season iON EVO tires on my Tesla Model 3 Performance mostly for efficiency and the 50k mileage warranty. However, I drag race my car at the track once a month so I was curious to see how much slower I would be there. To my surprise I ran right at the same times I normally do. I did 0-60 mph in 3.06 seconds and 11.24 @ 129.42 mph for the 1/4 mile. Only about .05 seconds off my best times with Pirelli PZ4 summer tires that weighed about two lbs less per tire. It was amazing to see these all season tires offer similar straight line grip to a max performance summer tire. Efficiency is really where the Hankook tires shine. These tires were 18% more efficient than the original 20” UberHeavy wheels and PZ4 tires the Model 3 came with. It would be great if you could test the Hankook iON EVO AS against the summer version of that same tire and the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tire along with the some of the other top summer and all season tires.
If you want to see just how good the Hakkapeliitta R5 really is, here's a full test against some of its rivals - ua-cam.com/video/YNjVsdbD998/v-deo.html . Also go review your tires over at www.tire-reviews.com
I've had a set of Nokian Outpost ATs on my LX570 for ~16,000 miles. Now going into their second winter here in the CO rockies. While yes they do not compete with a true snow tire, these are without a doubt the best AT l've had in snow. I've used KO2, wildpeak at3w (non LT), cooper discoverer, ridge grappler, defender ltx m/s, wrangler authority, kenda klever at2, and yokohama x-at. The only time I'm wishing for more is when it's pure ice out. But in general these have kept me comfortable to the point of letting me drive arguably a bit too fast during snowy weather. They are extremely quiet and comfortable. Good on sand and gravel as well. Being a softer compound I do notice a little chunking out at the edge of the sidewall already, but nothing I'm worried about. I ski 30+ days a season so I will probably graduate myself to a true winter tire next season, but if I was mostly only staying around the metro area this tire would be more than plenty to deal with a Denver winter. We've only had one big storm so far and I do feel like the winter performance is slightly less than when completely new. Just slightly. They've also been a little difficult to balance out.
Nice video. I've definitely been wondering about the Outpost, as I've had great experience with Nokians in general, and thought it might be an excellent choice for a mostly off-road oriented vehicle that might still see winter conditions in summer. The Canadian Rockies are a crazy place after all. But it bugs me that Nokians are exclusive to a single chain up here. Very keen on seeing a comparison between major all-weather ATs. There's definitely a myth going around that they're as good as winters, and if you suggest otherwise often you'll end up hearing that one particular brand is vastly superior to the others... usually by someone who bought a set of them and hasn't tried much else. I used to believe some of that but the more ATs I've driven on the more it's become obvious they're all pretty shit in winter road conditions. My experience is ATs typically do reasonably well in deep snow, with deep tread grooves, but don't really come close to winters on compact snow and especially not on ice, and not always wet slushy conditions either. And considering you're unlikely to see particularly deep snow that hasn't been driven down on a public road, it seems foolish to choose a tire based solely on deep snow performance. But there's definitely still people looking for that magic multitool tire and it would be good to have some idea of which ATs do well in which conditions. Anecdotally, last March I had the opportunity to drive on KO2's up in Nunavut, and while my understanding of the road conditions in summer suggest that would be an excellent choice, it was definitely incorrect for March. Even on a 3/4 ton truck it seemed barely manageable in 4x4. I think the best descriptor of the streets around town is that the kids playing street hockey were wearing ice skates.
I has a set of the original Outpost ATs on a 2018 Silverado. I live in Kansas so i will say i have never owned a set of dedicated winter tires. However, they were phenomenal in all the conditions we get around here. Easily my favorite of all the ATs i have had over the years. Also, amazingly quiet on the highway for as aggressive as they are. I had about 45k miles on them when i got rid of the truck and they were all still over 60% tread. I recommend them to everyone and will definitely be buying them again for my new ride.
@@tyrereviews the original BFG AT, hankook AT and AT2, Master Craft Courser, Toyo Open Country AT3, some older good years. Trying to remember if there are more. Have not been on the Falkens, Geolanders, Kendas, or the new Mickey Thompson.
Would definitely like a AT 3pms shootout. General ATx, Falken wildpeak AT3W, Cooper AT4s, MT Baja Boss would be my choices to see. Ive heard enough about KO2s and Duratracs are old and long since surpassed by a dozen other tires, although I guess an update is near for those.
@@OneLeggedStormChaser I had them months ago and wasn’t impressed coming off of KO2’s. I found them to be louder, rougher, and cost me mileage in comparison. I sold them locally on Facebook Marketplace and took a bath.
@@tyrereviews Yes, I bought LT275/65R20’s within days of them being offered on Simple Tire’s website. I couldn’t get them to return my emails and BF Goodrich would only reply with canned responses, so I sold ‘em and bought a different brand.
I think that's one of the OE sizes, so if it was an oe modified tyre it might be quite different from how the aftermarket version is when that's eventually out @@Icutmetal
Owning both a set of Falken AT3Ws and a set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta r5s this test lines up with my anecdotal experience. The AT3Ws are surprisingly good but the proper winter tire is really in a class of its own. I could comfortably just run the AT3Ws year round but I also like spending money on tires so I opt to run a winter set as well.
Excellent point here. I run the Falken Wildpeak AT3W LT tires, and they are quite bad in the snow and ice. I got caught in an early season storm yesterday here in the mountains in Utah, USA before I switched to my Blizzaks for the winter, and the difference is night-and-day. The AT3Ws lack the braking or handling performance of a true winter tire by a mile. @@OneLeggedStormChaser
Great vid thank you. The confirmation of the snow tire’s performance over all others good to see. A 5 meter braking distance advantage is very significant.
I went with the R5 SUV because of your testing. Car is brand new so no real experience yet. We only had a few icy days so far this season. We haven’t had deep snow yet. The economy and noise penalties were less than expected compared to the high efficiency OEM for the hybrid. Basically what your test showed me. Kudos. When temps were about the same, I still hit about the same MPG but I am running a smaller wheel with larger sidewall so that helps the winter tire get better mileage and helps absorb those terrible winter potholes. I estimate I lose about 1mpg if all variables were the same with the winters. Noise is basically the same in city and a bit more on the interstate. I’m really happy. I’d love to see a segment on tires that can still go on logging roads and rocky dirt roads but not be super noisy and maintain fuel economy. As more hybrid SUVs and electric SUVs are released, this is a good category.
As always this is great stuff. I am in Eastern Canada so winter is a thing, but having said that the highways are always bare (albeit often cold) within 24 hours of a snowfall. Being retired about the only snow and ice I really encounter is a little bit around town, but all my highway driving is on bare pave (wet or dry). Also I often travel to warmer climates in the winter, so for those reasons I do not use a full winter tire on my truck (I used to in the past when working and not having the luxury of just not travelling on crappy weather days ). Currently I have Toyo AT3 and it does the job, however for my next set I am at a toss up between Nokian Outpost nAT, or something like the Michelin Agilis Cross Climate, or perhaps even the Michelin Defender LTX M/S2. I really do not do any off road, and I do a lot of towing my travel trailer (fully half the kms on my truck have the trailer attached). I know the Defender LTX does not have 3PMSF but it seems it is just as capable as many tires that do. Would love to see a test that incorporated these three very different tires in some way. This test was close. Keep up the great work.
Dear Tyre Reviews, please also consider the Nokian Outpost APT which is a winter-biased all-weather all-terrain tire aimed at light off-roading and cross-over SUV segment. I have a set on my Hyundai Kona and does really well in the winter and in the summer for light-off road. They're not very good handling tires but I don't expect them to be.
I've been eyeing the APTs to replace the OEMs on my Subaru but reviews of these tires seem to be almost non-existent. Your comment and one other blog post are about all I've seen so far. How are they in the wet? And what pluses and minuses do you experience going from what was on your vehicle before to these?
In Canada, an all weather tire is significantly better than an all season in my opinion. We have Nokian WRG4 on our SUV. We ski and live on the mountain but in the Vancouver area, snow on the mountain is rain on the Hwy.
We got the Nokian Outpost nAT tires for our RAM 4x4 5.7 eTorque hemi and are very pleased. We live in Colorado with a good bit of snow at higher elevation. The nAT tires are nearly as quiet as the Eagle Tourings we replaced, handling is great, and the fuel mileage is nearly the same (maybe lost 1mpg). But the most impressive thing is the surefootedness of these tires in the snow. We are very please with the snow traction as t is much better than the AT tires we've had in the past.
Bring out the Falken Wildpeak AT3Ws probably the best snow and wet weather aggressive all terrain , bring the BFG KO3 when they come to market and compare them to KO2s, bring the Goodyear Duratracks, bring the Toyo Open Country A/T III, bring the Kenda Klever A/T2, bring the General Grabber A/TX. Bring the aggressive all terrain tires people actually buy a lot of and want to see compared that never get any time on this channel. Pit the Nokian Outpost against those. After that, move on to the hybrid tires and compare the best aggressive all terrain tire to the hybrid tires on snow. We drive a lot of trucks especially here in Minnesota and these are the tires that people run and they are never on this channel.
@@thedangerzone9399 Then you probably don't drive pickup trucks or only pay attention to street tires or live in a country where these aren't easily available. I can't walk down the street without seeing these tires but I live in Minnesota and its basically a necessity around here. These tires are all all over many UA-cam channels in the off road/overlanding world.
I love the WRG4s! I use it as a winter set where I live as it snows but not as heavy as other parts of the US. It's got amazing dry grip for being a all weather tire and won't wear as quick as a winter tire. Always impressed with them every day I drive in the wet, can't wait to see how they perform this winter as it didn't snow much last winter.
WRG4s are also perfect in the San Francisco Bay Area or central valley for people that go back and forth to the Sierras during the winter. It's temperate below the mountains and snow tires wear out very quickly. However, the WRG4s work well enough in the snow and ice (much better than all/3-season tires) but also don't wear out quickly in temperate climates. I wish all-weather tires were a more popular tire category, which would result in more R&D and ultimately more options for the market.
I Vancouver BC, I will be switching my winter tires for an "all weather" tire when they need replacing. We do get dumps of snow, with reality being tons of rain 85% of the winter season. An all weather + AWD should be absolutely fine. Better in the dry, rain, quieter, and last longer
Over a year ago I bought the previous Nokian Outpost AT's in LT for my '07 Land Cruiser that I take from San Diego to ski at Mammoth or Salt Lake City around 30 days per year. I'm satisfied as they're better in deep snow and much better for road noise compared to other AT's out there. That said, having had and been thoroughly pleased with Hakkas as my winter set for Audis in the past when I lived in colder temps, the Outpost AT's are definitely not as optimal (but what is - studs!) on icy roads as the Hakkas. And I do notice a bit of a tendency to hydroplane in deep rain situations, which makes complete sense when looking at the tread patterns that you showed in your vid. Great review! I'd love to see you do a review too of the new nAT's vs. the prior AT's, if possible.
I'm still sporting my old Hakka R2s and although they didn't last as long as I wish for the price, I'll likely buy another set for next year. It's probably overkill for Ontario, Canada but it's that good on snow... Especially on my AWD WRX. I sometimes forget how others are spinning at lights when I'm taking off like nothing. :D
@@tyrereviewsI think the Michelin X ice snow is better for southern Ontario as it often rains or there is a lot of slush. R5 would be best in a colder and dryer climate
@firstandlastname2390 I live in West coast of Norway where its mostly Rain. R5 is much bettrr than thr older R3 etc. Feel of tire is more direct, in the R3 in quick cars it felt like you drove away from the tires. Like a rubber band. Noise is also well improved. R5 , CVC7 or xice ate good tires I would say
@@firstandlastname2390Arent those tires just the equivalent to each other? I live in Sweden and have the Michelin X ice and they are for Northern (extreme) winter conditions.
I live in Ottawa, Eastern Ontario and visit Quebec side where winter tires are mandatory during the winter. Many also stud their tires in Quebec, especially in rural area. I work in small shop and most of our costumers usually choose typical Nordic style winter tire, although since the introduction of CrossClimate some are happy with the new All-weather tire from Michelin, especially if they don't venture out of the city during snow storms. Tyres we install are usually Toyo GSi - 6 (possibly no.1 seller here) G3, Yokohama Iceguard, Blizzak WS80(90), Nokia Hakkapelita. Some Pirelli, Continental, Goodyear, Hankook and then the cheaper Chinese made brands. With the warmer climate I noticed more days when we have ice from sudden temp drops and freezing rain storm (last winter 2days were quite terrifying). For me myself having decent ice and excellent snow traction is crucial, even though the roads are salted (yeah, the rust eats the cars alive) and we'll plowed - you never know what the mother nature throws on given day during the winter.
I put some outpost at tires on my lexus rx300 last year before winter and they are awesome up here in alaska,, so awesome i just put some lt outpost nat tires on my f150 yesterday to replace a set of bfg ko2 tires that had 70k miles on them. Winter is long in alaska and these work excellent
Awesome video! I am running Nokian One HT on my GX470 and I really enjoy them on the road, even very good in hydroplaning situation. For winter I have Hakkapeliitta R2, this will probably be its last winter season not because of mileage but age. I will be replacing the R2 and looking for some AT's.
I live in Washington state, and when it snows it turns to slushy wet snow with ice underneath you should do reviews for tires that are run in those conditions not just hard packed snow.
I really like being able to see multiple tires from the same manufacturer go head to head like this. You do a great job of showing how each segment is expected to perform/ how they really perform. Finding tires that can do it all like the outpost nat is what get's me interested in these performance tests. Living in new york state the snow performance is my biggest concern. I don't put a lot of miles on my vehicle so the the original tires dried out and became cracked before I wore them out. I was swapping between all seasons and winter tires but now with my driving habits at least, I just want one really good set of tires to do it all. Looking forward to an all terrain winter shoot out.
I'm into the all weather tires as well. I tried to find the cross climate 2's for my vehicle after you first reviewed them but my 2015 honda fit has small tires that can make it hard to shop for anything good. I'm using vredestein quatrack tires as a substitute right now and they have been good so far. I like to keep up with the performance tests for when I get a better vehicle to slap these tires on.@@tyrereviews
Still need to see deep snow testing, this is usually why we choose AT’s in the states as they have deeper tread depths that clean out in the steep and deep snow
@@tyrereviews there a retreading manufacturer over in Spain. I live in the Scottish Borders so it can get really snowy. The insa turbo’s I had were hellish on the tarmac but when it came to ice and snow, they were unstoppable.
Going on my 3rd winter with the Nokian Outpost AT. Tires are at 60% with about 25k on them. They are awesome in just about every condition for me in central Colorado. Surprisingly quiet for how aggressive the tread is. Didn’t see any mileage penalty from my previous tires. Previous tires were Michelin LTX OE (surprisingly decent) and Pirelli Scorpion all terrain plus (great for the first 20k and then turned to noisy trash that were terrible in the snow). Probably gonna stick with the Outpost AT, very happy with the tire. Only short-coming is on icy roads, definitely not a snow tire but still very happy with them overall.
I’m using Wildpeak AT3W for my “3 season” duties, and just got the X-Ice Snow SUV for winter in Iowa. Most of our winters are just cold dry roads (excess salt is usually the biggest risk!) but we do get snow and ice, and I usually travel for the holidays so it’s always nice to have the extra safety margin in winter weather.
I was really impressed with a brand new set of BFG KO2 A/T tires in the snow. My 2WD Dakota became surprisingly capable in winter. HOWEVER. The following year, with not that many miles and a ton of tread left, they were seriously seriously degraded. Going up a ski resort road when they were new was a breeze. I was drifting, messing around, my buddy's Xterra needed 4x4 to keep up. After one year, on that very same road in nearly identical conditions, the Dakota failed to proceed, and I had to turn back. The whole incident really taught me that, while some non-winter tires can be quite impressive when fresh, a lot of that is a "new tire smell" party trick. To have half a chance of working decently on a 2nd season, a true winter tire is really where it's at.
@tyrereviews I couldn't tell you a number for wear, but they're still well, well over 50% tread depth today as we roll into the 4th winter. 1st winter, went straight from the tire shop to the mountain. They were great. 2nd winter, 1yr old, failed to reach the Lodge. Last winter, primarily used my Miata on sticker-fresh Conti DWS06. I did not trust the Dakota. This year, the Miata just got Blizzak WS90s because I burned those DWS like pencil erasers last summer, lol In defense of the BFGs, they're epic on gravel. I decided to do some rally-inspired driving a few weeks ago, and it took full throttle in 2nd gear with a 5.9L V8 to break them loose on gravel. Better traction on wet gravel than on wet asphalt!
Nokians FTW. I've got two sets of the no longer made Nordman 7 SUV on both our spare car, a 2004 Lincoln Town Car (with open diff too!) and my mom's 2009 Mercury Mariner (front wheel drive) and they are almost unstoppable with them on. And we've gotten going on 5 or 6 years of winter only use on them as well. Prior to the Lincoln, we had the Hakkapellitta 8 (older model) on a 2003 Chevy Impala that had no ABS or traction control (which were optional equipment in 2003) and that thing went everywhere. You had to legit try hard to get the tires to lock up too.
I've been using an all terrain, all weather tire for 2 years and it's good. It's a Maxxis AT-771, size 235 60 r16 mounted on a 4x4 VW T5 van with diff lock. Very good in snow, decent on ice. Pulled out on some snow and icy forrest roads where only real 4x4 vehicles and forrest tractors were moving. Not brilliant on mud, but it works.
Nokia is a great european brand for their klimaat, they are king. I love to have some all terrain on my Subaru Crosstrek in Dutch mud. Best from both worlds👍
I just got the DWS06+ mounted on my car for winter. Central NC doesn't see much snow, mostly cold and wet with occasional ice storms and some flurries. I think I'll definitely have to fit a set of UHP summer tires once it warms up though - my Golf R shines with a grippy, sticky tire.
Now this is where all snow traction tests should begin, with comparison amongst the same brand. I've used the Hakkapeliitta winter tires before and honestly they didnt seem better than my blizzak ws80 or even dmv2
Oooo, nice review of these Nokian’s. Looking forward to a long term review of the Outpost nAT. I just put a 2nd set of General Grabber ATX’s on my Sierra. Love the Grabber! I hear nothing but good thing about Nokian and the Outpost nAT looks to be similar to the Grabbers (and others). Just wish the nAT had a rim protector. Thats a big selling point for me.
Got really excited to see this one! I really do wish the BF Goodrich TA/K02s were part of this comparison. @Tyre Reviews - Looking forward to your future comparison of the nATs compared to other AT tires. I run the BFs on my truck and the WRG4s on my AWD wagon and have chosen those tires based on snow/ice performance. Wonder if my next set of truck tires will be the Outpost nATs. @Tyre Reviews - When will Nokian come out with an updated all-weather tire? The WRG4 are getting a bit long in the tooth....
I always ask for BF Goodrich TA/K02 snow performance review has not happened. I always asked for KO2 vs Falken WP AT3W vs Goodyear WR Duratrac, Toyo OC AT3 because they are the top choice for 4WD owners. I see others also requesting in the past. At this point I'm thinking it never gonna happen. :(
Last time I commented "Can’t wait for an episode of “The Best SUV 3 Peak Mountain Snow Flake A/T Tire in winter” Comparing tires like BFG KO2 (or newer KO3), Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac (without studs), Falken Wildpeak AT3W, Toyo Open Country AT3. Maybe even add Michelin LTX A/T 2 to the mix as many 4Runner owners swear about its winter performance even without 3PMSF rating."
I have the ATs on my SUV but I switch them with Pirelli WeatherActives as the ATs are heavier & louder. You could run them all the time - I often drive 700 miles on them to get trailheads and they are fine. Unless you are doing actual off-roading, I suggest the APT instead. A friend has those on his Outback and he swears by them, even off-road.
@@ckm-mkcI’m not sure why so many people believe they need off road tires. I’ve been in stock 1/2 ton trucks going up fairly steep and gnarly dirt ski hill access “roads” in trucks that have standard tires like Michelin LTX’s and the trucks don’t seem to struggle very much. It’s a shame because probably 90% of the truck owners here in Canada won’t ever use the full ability of a AT tire but almost all of them could utilize the full ability of a well built all weather tire in the winter.
@tyrereviews One fact about the difference in stress and anxiety between winter vs all-season I give often is that if I'm on a motorway in cold/ice/snow conditions, and I've got my winter tyres fitted, I can use traffic in front of me as a predictor. If I see someone in front of me start to struggle, it gives me time to compensate in speed. If I'm on all-season, I don't know that *I* won't be the guinea pig that loses traction first, and therefore I can't really use the other traffic as much as a predictor. Certainly, if I see someone in front of me having a problem, I can do my best to slow down with the lead time, BUT... it's also possible that traffic in front of me WON'T struggle depending on the quality of their tires, and then suddenly and without warning or notice to slow down, I can lose control. Makes a huge mental difference.
Another great video. When will you do summer texting(wet/dry) of the Nokian One and the new Nokian WRG5(which just came on their website). And of course compare them to the Conts and Michelins. Thanks.
Nice. I have the Nokian Tyres One on my Camry but I live in coastal SC, minimal snow area. I got my niece who lives in Colorado a set of Nokian WR G4 tires though for her Honda Accord.
This is my first season having an AT tire on my vehicle. I have BFGoodrich AT KO3's I also have a set of blizzaks, Im going to go through the first big storm to decide if Im going to switch because even just a dusting, I was reasonably impressed with the KO3s snow performance.
Looking forward to more nAT test results. They are strong contenders for my next set of tires on my truck. I'm in the NY snowbelt, and want a single set of tires to run all year.
I have the normal Outpost on my 07 Silverado 4x4 1500, plus we have them on a 06 Yukon Denali AWD and a 97 Chevy suburban 4x4 at work. I've owned all kinds of tires from Toyo AT, Cooper, Firestone, etc and the Outposts are the best. Very, very quiet and very, very good in the rain. I live in the Pacific NW so we know rain. And like I tell people Nokian invented the winter tire.
Recently purchased a set of WRG4’s for my 16 manual corolla S 😬 Live in lake effect area… 100+ inches of snow yearly average.. thanks for my purchase confirmation bias 😅 nice vid!
Spent alot of time thinking about what I should put on my 2012 golf R. I live in Whistler BC, Canada. And if you've seen anything on the sea to sky highway, thats what I drive weekly. Today 8 C and dry, other day 4C and pooling water, Winter will be a mix of wet days and icy days. Typically we run the x ice, but the more I watch and think about it, we might be better off on something slightly different. I went with the alpine ps4 getting them on tomorrow. I was on the fence of running all season for the wet performance. And since I have the R I shouldn't be getting stuck. BUT on a ski trip across bc, those few times a season it happens, I think it would be scary on an all season. So feel like I went with the perfect compromise, we shall see.
Great video, as ever. Are there compound differences between the earlier Outpost AT and current nAT versions? I fitted a set of Outpost AT on my adventure rig even before reviews were widely available as have always been impressed by Nokian's winter prowess; to combine that into an all-terrain tire capable of tackling long highways in quiet comfort while handling the trails and snow is terrific, and more balanced than the other AT choices on the market. In my usage one noticeable trade off however is in the area of wet braking performance, which is decidedly lower than the Michelin Defender LTX all-seasons that was on the SUV prior to the Outpost AT's.
Swapped my F-150 tires from all season to Outpost nAT’s last week. Tires look stunning, road noise is very quiet and only 0.5 mpg drop after 1000 miles in mostly dry PNW conditions. Comment later this season and I’ll provide a snow performance update.
I've run all weather AT tires for the last few years and I find that in Calgary AB Canada which gets lots of chinooks they work fine. Not as good as dedicated winter with studs by any means, but I can drive confidently when it dumps snow.
I'm still searching for a review of the Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V3. It should be a nordic winter tire, maybe you can get one and compare it to the Hakkapeliitta? Especially the noise rating would be interesting, everyone is saying the new Bridgestone winter tires are louder than the competitors.
I would be grateful if you included the Nokian Outpost APT tire in the following tests. This tire is very mysterious, there is practically no information about it. Is it really not worthy of any attention? The appearance and price are beautiful. I would like to know how it actually behaves during tests.
Love your channel. I also live in salt lake. I ran the Falken AT3W for 4 years. Never worried about running that tire everywhere. Currently I have the Cooper Discover Rugged Trek. Way behind the Falken in every way but mud performance. Bought the cooper when I believed I was moving to a damper muddier place. Miss my Falken’s but would love to fit the nAT
@@tyrereviews it is difficult finding Nokian or many other brands at the tire shops in and around Herriman. Any advice you have on that front would be greatly appreciated
My experience of all terrain tyres in snow is with BFG AT KO and Cooper Discoverer ST Maxx. The BFG AT was definitely better in snow than the Coopers but the Coopers are much better in mud.
Can we see a review with the Nokian Hakkapalitta LT3 non studded? Looking at all nokian winter tyres are they also the best Winter tyres for big trucks?
@@tyrereviewsit's niche, but there's close to zero head to head reviews out there that properly compare LT snows, let alone LT snows vs 3PMSF-rated LT AT tires. I'd love to see someone do a proper comparison; I just replaced my LT2s with a set of LT3s, but I also wondered if I'd have been okay with the Outpost or another AT tire. Based on how the Outpost did against the R5, I'm guessing the LT3 was the right choice, but I'd also love to see a snow, ice and dry comparison between the studded and studless LT3. I went with studs (to optimize traction when there isn't much available), but I really wonder how much I'm giving up on dry roads and what I'm actually gaining on ice.
I live in a very hilly area that gets a lot of polished hard ice. I have been running studs for the last 15 years, but have a new car. I think I am going to go with some H10's if I can find them where I live. It is a PITA getting them changed, but the relief I get when driving on them is worth it.
interesting findings, i currently have a set of goodyear wrangler duratracs on my truck and the snowfall last week had me worried despite the 3-peak rating and i was pleasantly surprised when it took quite a bit of effort to break grip on the drive home. it would be a great study to see how other brands would compare as you mentioned
It's the official off-road tire of the Colorado detachment of the US Forest Service for a reason. I run them on my Jeep just due to the snow performance
I use all weather tire in Moscow. We call this tire European tire. And winter tire we call Scandinavian. But on Moscow a lot of chemicals reagents on the road. Temperature are always jumping above and under 0.
I'm very limited in tyre choice because not many manufacturers make a 7.50R16 all terrain. I used to run Michelin but last tyre change moved to Bridgestone with the AT001 and I've been blown away with how much better it is than the Michelin. That's in wet, dry, noise, mud... and it has the 3 peak mountain snowflake which the Michelin didn't. Add in the fact that it's cheap and has lasted three times longer I'm happy - but it would be nice to know how it compares to other brands that I can't fit.
You ever get one of those videos that really excites you? This is one of those videos that I've been waiting for for a while. Thank you Sir
I hope it was worth the excitement
Autist, we are they.
Now you have to repeat the test again with WRG5
I took the chance on the wrg5 over the michelin cc2 and couldn't find any allseason contact 2 anywhere. Hybrid fwd car in ny. Can't wait for an actual comparison now lol
You are one of the most underrated channels in UA-cam. Thanks again for hard work and all the info.
This is my second winter running Outpost AT's. I hunt, fish and camp in the Canadian Rockies where good AT's come into their own.
These tires have been outstanding, great mud and snow traction while ice performance is ok (but 4 wheel drive helps that). Tire wear has been minimal and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend these tires for use similar to mine.
Thanks for the great reviews, I watch them all. Cheers.
Glad you like them, please get a review on www.tyrereviews.com sometime!
How is the tire noise on paved roads? Thanks.
@@TyMYLINE I have them on my E350 and they are significantly quieter than the Hankook Dynapro AT/M that got replaced. The Dynapro was known for being a quiet, but aggressive tire. But more modern tires like the Outpost and Falken Wildpeak are far superior in every way.
I hunt a lot in BC, Canada. How are the Outpost AT's for rocks and punctures?
@@rogalmarketingagency I have the LT Outpost nAT on an F-150 and so far so good on washed out logging roads with tire eating rocks. I don't offroad per say but I do drive pretty rough logging roads in Maine and so far they have performed well. It's unclear if the LT rated tires are actually 10-ply but they do carry a replacement warranty and have the aramid sidewall which is why I purchased them over 10-ply Wildpeaks. Logging roads here are graded with shale so the biggest hazard here is sidewall slices and so far so good.
I do think the LTs are a little more slippery feeling accelerating quickly on dry pavement and rain vs my old Duratracs but overall I've been happy. One slight downside is the aggressive tread (maybe only on the LTs, not sure) picks up and holds pretty big rocks/gravel and will spew them out when you get up to speed back on the black top. I run studded Hakkas on my truck in the winter and was so impressed by them that I took a chance on the nATs when it was time to replace my 3-season tires.
VINDICATION! I love this channel, and really wanted to base my tire purchase off one of these review videos. BUT, they did not review the Nokian AT last year, when I needed to make my purchase. So I took the risk and purchased them before the Tyre Reviews review. SO HAPPY the AT tested so well!
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FYI, I have just clicked over 10,000 miles on these tires. I am running them on a 2022 Honda Ridgeline. They are AS QUIET as the stock tires. They don't look like they've worn at all. They do not seem to have had any impact on my gas mileage. They look good in real life (bold/rugged, but not overly so). I would weigh in on the snow performance, but I got them at the end of winter and only ran them in 'real snow' (6"+) maybe 7-10 days. The worked great, but I can't say 'they are great' until I get a full winter on them. Absolutely recommend them.
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Thank you Tyre Reviews for reviewing these tires!!!
Glad you're enjoying them :)
So you have the Outpost AT or nAT? I was going to ask how they sounded on road. Also, wondering what size you have? P metric or LT? Thanks!
@@couvi74 I have the AT. They sound 'different' than my stock ridgeline tires, but NOT any louder..
When winter arrives, I use winter tires... or tyres. This is just a dumb comment for the algorithm of this channel and to support the hard work that goes into putting together these reviews/tests.
Howdy fellow winter tire user
@@tyrereviews 👍👍🥶🥶
@Tyrereviews could you do a head to head comparison of the winter ( mountain peak/snowflake) rated AT tires? I really liked the inclusion of the Nokian AT in this test. I live in a fairly remote area that has a lot of gravel and muddy roads as well as asphalt. To add to this we see -40 temps.
It would be great if it included the high end BFG, Goodyear, Cooper, and for fun a Moto master or big box budget equivalent.
I’ve run the Goodyear Dura track that seems to stay pretty pliable in the cold, so fair on the snow, and decent in the mud. I’ve also tried the General Grabber which preformed quite well on ice and snow at temps below -20c but turned into a sway motion gum-ball at warmer temps and felt unsafe on a fully loaded large suv in the warmer weather. Yes we also run dedicated friction winters on the smaller vehicles and cars. But they’re not always an option for the largest SUV’s and Full-size trucks that must also tackle the mud and ruff of the dirt paths
That’s a great comment and I agree wholeheartedly with you.
This was a very useful comparison. I've been curious about these Nokias Outpost ATs so glad you ran them
What a great review. I have been considering the Nokian nAT vs the cooper discover, and Falken wild peaks for my sprinter van. Thanks again! Nokians are at the top of my list.
Let me know how you like whatever you get!
I ran Nokian Rotiiva year round for 3 years on my Honda Element upstate NY working in utility scale solar- rocks, mud, snow. Love them so I will be getting NAT's this Spring to replace them. Thanks! Great video.
When it comes to tyres, this is the only guy you need to listen to. Full of practical information!
Great review! This will be the video I show my non-tire nerd friends to convince them to get a separate set of winter tires for winter.
Awesome! That is a question that we have needed the answer to for years, thank you for your excellent work!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love your tire tests and look forward to further testing of the Outpost nAT. I'd like to see a winter and off-road comparison between the nAT's, MT Baja Boss AT, Falken Wildpeak AT3W, MileStar Patagonia AT Pro, Cooper Discoverer Road+Trail (the updated/replacement of the AT3 4S) and a BFG KO3 , in a non OEM size.
Would absolutely love to see the Outpost nAT vs BFG Trail Terrain!
oh heck ya!!! been waiting for this
I got just over 50,000 MILES out of my Nokian ONE. They've worn evenly and held up well in 4 seasons, with no issues, even held their air in between tire rotations - never had to add any air. Well short of the tread warranty, but I think I will get them again. They have not been amazing in the snow, but they did perform better than the Pirelli Scorpion Winter tires they replaced in the middle of winter in 2022. And the Nokian ONE have been outstanding in wet weather.
I am getting a set of Nokian Outpost nAT 275/60/R20 tires fitted in a weeks time. I plan to run them from March until the end of November and switch to my Nokian Hakka 10
Thank you - from Canada!
As a previous owner of the WRG3’s for many years and have since moved onto the WRG4’s I can not stress how versatile this tire is. I run them on my 4.2 V8 Touareg and they definitely get out through the snow and slush for Snowboarding in Tahoe during the winter. But also they outperform in the Wet weather as well. Hands down the best All weather tire on the Market.
Did I mention they are rated for 160MPH as well 😏
Nokian nAt LT 275 70 r18 on 2020 f150
Right around 3,000 miles so far.
These are the real deal. Currently-20 to -40F temps. Deep snow, packed roads snow, slush, ice. I can even get around in 2wd where I had to go 4wd before 4wd even better of course. I drive Steep drive way 200’ and streets all the time. They are tested daily in the snow. Great on highway. LOW noise. Running 38-44psi. Little bumpy with no weight in bed on back roads at 44. Bump up to 55-60 with full bed payload. Haven’t quite figured the best psi. Need to chalk test.
Down side for trucks if you want a real big tire nothing over 33.5” yet. But I wanted something I can drive cross country highway and be good in snow and off-road when needed. I drive dirt roads and highway. They do kick gravel but I have no wheel poke. This is the best overall so far without going true winter/studded (which I have on another vehicle).
I can’t wait till you can finally test the new Hankook iON EVO tires. I have the all season iON EVO tires on my Tesla Model 3 Performance mostly for efficiency and the 50k mileage warranty. However, I drag race my car at the track once a month so I was curious to see how much slower I would be there. To my surprise I ran right at the same times I normally do. I did 0-60 mph in 3.06 seconds and 11.24 @ 129.42 mph for the 1/4 mile. Only about .05 seconds off my best times with Pirelli PZ4 summer tires that weighed about two lbs less per tire. It was amazing to see these all season tires offer similar straight line grip to a max performance summer tire. Efficiency is really where the Hankook tires shine. These tires were 18% more efficient than the original 20” UberHeavy wheels and PZ4 tires the Model 3 came with. It would be great if you could test the Hankook iON EVO AS against the summer version of that same tire and the Michelin Cross Climate 2 tire along with the some of the other top summer and all season tires.
If you want to see just how good the Hakkapeliitta R5 really is, here's a full test against some of its rivals - ua-cam.com/video/YNjVsdbD998/v-deo.html . Also go review your tires over at www.tire-reviews.com
I've had a set of Nokian Outpost ATs on my LX570 for ~16,000 miles. Now going into their second winter here in the CO rockies. While yes they do not compete with a true snow tire, these are without a doubt the best AT l've had in snow. I've used KO2, wildpeak at3w (non LT), cooper discoverer, ridge grappler, defender ltx m/s, wrangler authority, kenda klever at2, and yokohama x-at. The only time I'm wishing for more is when it's pure ice out. But in general these have kept me comfortable to the point of letting me drive arguably a bit too fast during snowy weather. They are extremely quiet and comfortable. Good on sand and gravel as well. Being a softer compound I do notice a little chunking out at the edge of the sidewall already, but nothing I'm worried about. I ski 30+ days a season so I will probably graduate myself to a true winter tire next season, but if I was mostly only staying around the metro area this tire would be more than plenty to deal with a Denver winter. We've only had one big storm so far and I do feel like the winter performance is slightly less than when completely new. Just slightly. They've also been a little difficult to balance out.
Please get that info on the site :D www.tire-reviews.com/submit.htm?match=Nokian-Outpost-nAT---Tire-Reviews-and-Tests
just swapped out my ko2 for nAT today on my GX470. looking forward to the next snowfall🤠
Nice video. I've definitely been wondering about the Outpost, as I've had great experience with Nokians in general, and thought it might be an excellent choice for a mostly off-road oriented vehicle that might still see winter conditions in summer. The Canadian Rockies are a crazy place after all. But it bugs me that Nokians are exclusive to a single chain up here.
Very keen on seeing a comparison between major all-weather ATs. There's definitely a myth going around that they're as good as winters, and if you suggest otherwise often you'll end up hearing that one particular brand is vastly superior to the others... usually by someone who bought a set of them and hasn't tried much else. I used to believe some of that but the more ATs I've driven on the more it's become obvious they're all pretty shit in winter road conditions.
My experience is ATs typically do reasonably well in deep snow, with deep tread grooves, but don't really come close to winters on compact snow and especially not on ice, and not always wet slushy conditions either. And considering you're unlikely to see particularly deep snow that hasn't been driven down on a public road, it seems foolish to choose a tire based solely on deep snow performance. But there's definitely still people looking for that magic multitool tire and it would be good to have some idea of which ATs do well in which conditions.
Anecdotally, last March I had the opportunity to drive on KO2's up in Nunavut, and while my understanding of the road conditions in summer suggest that would be an excellent choice, it was definitely incorrect for March. Even on a 3/4 ton truck it seemed barely manageable in 4x4. I think the best descriptor of the streets around town is that the kids playing street hockey were wearing ice skates.
Would love to see the Wrangler Duratrac in the next winter rated AT test. Outpost, Duratrac, K02s, etc.
I'll def get a goodyear involved
I has a set of the original Outpost ATs on a 2018 Silverado. I live in Kansas so i will say i have never owned a set of dedicated winter tires. However, they were phenomenal in all the conditions we get around here. Easily my favorite of all the ATs i have had over the years. Also, amazingly quiet on the highway for as aggressive as they are. I had about 45k miles on them when i got rid of the truck and they were all still over 60% tread. I recommend them to everyone and will definitely be buying them again for my new ride.
What other ATs have you tried?
@@tyrereviews the original BFG AT, hankook AT and AT2, Master Craft Courser, Toyo Open Country AT3, some older good years. Trying to remember if there are more. Have not been on the Falkens, Geolanders, Kendas, or the new Mickey Thompson.
Would definitely like a AT 3pms shootout. General ATx, Falken wildpeak AT3W, Cooper AT4s, MT Baja Boss would be my choices to see. Ive heard enough about KO2s and Duratracs are old and long since surpassed by a dozen other tires, although I guess an update is near for those.
KO3s are coming out now
@@OneLeggedStormChaser I had them months ago and wasn’t impressed coming off of KO2’s. I found them to be louder, rougher, and cost me mileage in comparison. I sold them locally on Facebook Marketplace and took a bath.
the KO3 is only OE sixes so far right?
@@tyrereviews Yes, I bought LT275/65R20’s within days of them being offered on Simple Tire’s website. I couldn’t get them to return my emails and BF Goodrich would only reply with canned responses, so I sold ‘em and bought a different brand.
I think that's one of the OE sizes, so if it was an oe modified tyre it might be quite different from how the aftermarket version is when that's eventually out @@Icutmetal
Owning both a set of Falken AT3Ws and a set of Nokian Hakkapeliitta r5s this test lines up with my anecdotal experience. The AT3Ws are surprisingly good but the proper winter tire is really in a class of its own. I could comfortably just run the AT3Ws year round but I also like spending money on tires so I opt to run a winter set as well.
LT Falkens or the softer compound non-LT? Txs
@@OneLeggedStormChaser Non-LT
Excellent point here. I run the Falken Wildpeak AT3W LT tires, and they are quite bad in the snow and ice. I got caught in an early season storm yesterday here in the mountains in Utah, USA before I switched to my Blizzaks for the winter, and the difference is night-and-day. The AT3Ws lack the braking or handling performance of a true winter tire by a mile. @@OneLeggedStormChaser
" I also like spending money on tires" a man of class I see
Great vid thank you. The confirmation of the snow tire’s performance over all others good to see. A 5 meter braking distance advantage is very significant.
I went with the R5 SUV because of your testing. Car is brand new so no real experience yet. We only had a few icy days so far this season. We haven’t had deep snow yet. The economy and noise penalties were less than expected compared to the high efficiency OEM for the hybrid. Basically what your test showed me. Kudos. When temps were about the same, I still hit about the same MPG but I am running a smaller wheel with larger sidewall so that helps the winter tire get better mileage and helps absorb those terrible winter potholes. I estimate I lose about 1mpg if all variables were the same with the winters. Noise is basically the same in city and a bit more on the interstate. I’m really happy.
I’d love to see a segment on tires that can still go on logging roads and rocky dirt roads but not be super noisy and maintain fuel economy. As more hybrid SUVs and electric SUVs are released, this is a good category.
As always this is great stuff. I am in Eastern Canada so winter is a thing, but having said that the highways are always bare (albeit often cold) within 24 hours of a snowfall. Being retired about the only snow and ice I really encounter is a little bit around town, but all my highway driving is on bare pave (wet or dry). Also I often travel to warmer climates in the winter, so for those reasons I do not use a full winter tire on my truck (I used to in the past when working and not having the luxury of just not travelling on crappy weather days ). Currently I have Toyo AT3 and it does the job, however for my next set I am at a toss up between Nokian Outpost nAT, or something like the Michelin Agilis Cross Climate, or perhaps even the Michelin Defender LTX M/S2. I really do not do any off road, and I do a lot of towing my travel trailer (fully half the kms on my truck have the trailer attached). I know the Defender LTX does not have 3PMSF but it seems it is just as capable as many tires that do. Would love to see a test that incorporated these three very different tires in some way. This test was close. Keep up the great work.
Dear Tyre Reviews, please also consider the Nokian Outpost APT which is a winter-biased all-weather all-terrain tire aimed at light off-roading and cross-over SUV segment. I have a set on my Hyundai Kona and does really well in the winter and in the summer for light-off road. They're not very good handling tires but I don't expect them to be.
I've been eyeing the APTs to replace the OEMs on my Subaru but reviews of these tires seem to be almost non-existent. Your comment and one other blog post are about all I've seen so far. How are they in the wet? And what pluses and minuses do you experience going from what was on your vehicle before to these?
In Canada, an all weather tire is significantly better than an all season in my opinion.
We have Nokian WRG4 on our SUV. We ski and live on the mountain but in the Vancouver area, snow on the mountain is rain on the Hwy.
Yay! New review!
Exactly 🎉🎉🎉
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I got the Nokian on my Tesla and made a video about them last year. Now one year later I still think they are a great tire.
Glad you like them :)
@@tyrereviews I do and I am in Utah btw
this channel should have 1 million subscribers
We got the Nokian Outpost nAT tires for our RAM 4x4 5.7 eTorque hemi and are very pleased. We live in Colorado with a good bit of snow at higher elevation. The nAT tires are nearly as quiet as the Eagle Tourings we replaced, handling is great, and the fuel mileage is nearly the same (maybe lost 1mpg). But the most impressive thing is the surefootedness of these tires in the snow. We are very please with the snow traction as t is much better than the AT tires we've had in the past.
Bring out the Falken Wildpeak AT3Ws probably the best snow and wet weather aggressive all terrain , bring the BFG KO3 when they come to market and compare them to KO2s, bring the Goodyear Duratracks, bring the Toyo Open Country A/T III, bring the Kenda Klever A/T2, bring the General Grabber A/TX. Bring the aggressive all terrain tires people actually buy a lot of and want to see compared that never get any time on this channel. Pit the Nokian Outpost against those. After that, move on to the hybrid tires and compare the best aggressive all terrain tire to the hybrid tires on snow. We drive a lot of trucks especially here in Minnesota and these are the tires that people run and they are never on this channel.
Never heard of these products, propably never made it in top 20 in tests.
@@thedangerzone9399 Then you probably don't drive pickup trucks or only pay attention to street tires or live in a country where these aren't easily available. I can't walk down the street without seeing these tires but I live in Minnesota and its basically a necessity around here. These tires are all all over many UA-cam channels in the off road/overlanding world.
Another exciting video to answer the burning questions
I don't even have an SUV and I watched this because all your tests are so amazing. Best on the web 🍻
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Love to see the NAT agains falken wildpeak at3w, Goodyear duratracs, Toyo open country at3
Me too, that's next on my list!
A good way to start a Wednesday! Love the snow videos, the driving through snow track shots are 🤤🤤🤤
I love the WRG4s! I use it as a winter set where I live as it snows but not as heavy as other parts of the US. It's got amazing dry grip for being a all weather tire and won't wear as quick as a winter tire. Always impressed with them every day I drive in the wet, can't wait to see how they perform this winter as it didn't snow much last winter.
I also use an all weather as a winter tire, works well in SLC
WRG4s are also perfect in the San Francisco Bay Area or central valley for people that go back and forth to the Sierras during the winter. It's temperate below the mountains and snow tires wear out very quickly. However, the WRG4s work well enough in the snow and ice (much better than all/3-season tires) but also don't wear out quickly in temperate climates. I wish all-weather tires were a more popular tire category, which would result in more R&D and ultimately more options for the market.
I Vancouver BC, I will be switching my winter tires for an "all weather" tire when they need replacing. We do get dumps of snow, with reality being tons of rain 85% of the winter season. An all weather + AWD should be absolutely fine. Better in the dry, rain, quieter, and last longer
@@JCubed123 Seriously! It’s scary how ppl think AS are safe to get them through the winter. Some slight dusting and that’s it
@@wusthof641 Good Idea!
Dude this is awesome thanks for doing the hard work,
Glad you enjoy it!
Thank you for this. Great comparison tests.
Awesome, I was looking at changing from my Ko2 to a Hakka. But hated the aquaplaning I had with the R5. Now the Outpost is on my list as well..
nearly all the soft compound winters sacrifice a lot of aqua for snow and ice grip - ua-cam.com/video/YNjVsdbD998/v-deo.html
Great video as always!!!! This sounds like a good overall tyre!!!
Over a year ago I bought the previous Nokian Outpost AT's in LT for my '07 Land Cruiser that I take from San Diego to ski at Mammoth or Salt Lake City around 30 days per year. I'm satisfied as they're better in deep snow and much better for road noise compared to other AT's out there. That said, having had and been thoroughly pleased with Hakkas as my winter set for Audis in the past when I lived in colder temps, the Outpost AT's are definitely not as optimal (but what is - studs!) on icy roads as the Hakkas. And I do notice a bit of a tendency to hydroplane in deep rain situations, which makes complete sense when looking at the tread patterns that you showed in your vid.
Great review! I'd love to see you do a review too of the new nAT's vs. the prior AT's, if possible.
I'm still sporting my old Hakka R2s and although they didn't last as long as I wish for the price, I'll likely buy another set for next year. It's probably overkill for Ontario, Canada but it's that good on snow... Especially on my AWD WRX. I sometimes forget how others are spinning at lights when I'm taking off like nothing. :D
:D the new R5 should be a good step up too
@@tyrereviewsI think the Michelin X ice snow is better for southern Ontario as it often rains or there is a lot of slush. R5 would be best in a colder and dryer climate
@firstandlastname2390 I live in West coast of Norway where its mostly Rain. R5 is much bettrr than thr older R3 etc. Feel of tire is more direct, in the R3 in quick cars it felt like you drove away from the tires. Like a rubber band. Noise is also well improved. R5 , CVC7 or xice ate good tires I would say
@@firstandlastname2390Arent those tires just the equivalent to each other? I live in Sweden and have the Michelin X ice and they are for Northern (extreme) winter conditions.
I live in Ottawa, Eastern Ontario and visit Quebec side where winter tires are mandatory during the winter. Many also stud their tires in Quebec, especially in rural area. I work in small shop and most of our costumers usually choose typical Nordic style winter tire, although since the introduction of CrossClimate some are happy with the new All-weather tire from Michelin, especially if they don't venture out of the city during snow storms. Tyres we install are usually Toyo GSi - 6 (possibly no.1 seller here) G3, Yokohama Iceguard, Blizzak WS80(90), Nokia Hakkapelita. Some Pirelli, Continental, Goodyear, Hankook and then the cheaper Chinese made brands. With the warmer climate I noticed more days when we have ice from sudden temp drops and freezing rain storm (last winter 2days were quite terrifying). For me myself having decent ice and excellent snow traction is crucial, even though the roads are salted (yeah, the rust eats the cars alive) and we'll plowed - you never know what the mother nature throws on given day during the winter.
Yes please compare the Nat to the other brands. I would be very interested in viewing that comparison. Thank you
I put some outpost at tires on my lexus rx300 last year before winter and they are awesome up here in alaska,, so awesome i just put some lt outpost nat tires on my f150 yesterday to replace a set of bfg ko2 tires that had 70k miles on them. Winter is long in alaska and these work excellent
Awesome video! I am running Nokian One HT on my GX470 and I really enjoy them on the road, even very good in hydroplaning situation. For winter I have Hakkapeliitta R2, this will probably be its last winter season not because of mileage but age. I will be replacing the R2 and looking for some AT's.
i just put the nAT on my GX470 today. swapped out the KO2s. was not getting a safe and secure feeling on packed snow with the ko2s
I live in Washington state, and when it snows it turns to slushy wet snow with ice underneath you should do reviews for tires that are run in those conditions not just hard packed snow.
Would like to see comparison of Nokian at vs BFG Ko2 at and ko3 through all the test variations especially off road.
I'd love to see some videos of your off road adventures. I'm sure you could squeeze some tire info into them.
There's a relatively good one on @joeachilles channel worth checking out from MOAB
I really like being able to see multiple tires from the same manufacturer go head to head like this. You do a great job of showing how each segment is expected to perform/ how they really perform. Finding tires that can do it all like the outpost nat is what get's me interested in these performance tests. Living in new york state the snow performance is my biggest concern. I don't put a lot of miles on my vehicle so the the original tires dried out and became cracked before I wore them out. I was swapping between all seasons and winter tires but now with my driving habits at least, I just want one really good set of tires to do it all. Looking forward to an all terrain winter shoot out.
Why not an all weather tyre like the CC2 or WRG4?
I'm into the all weather tires as well. I tried to find the cross climate 2's for my vehicle after you first reviewed them but my 2015 honda fit has small tires that can make it hard to shop for anything good. I'm using vredestein quatrack tires as a substitute right now and they have been good so far. I like to keep up with the performance tests for when I get a better vehicle to slap these tires on.@@tyrereviews
Still need to see deep snow testing, this is usually why we choose AT’s in the states as they have deeper tread depths that clean out in the steep and deep snow
If you can think of a way of doing it repeatably i definitely would, it's just so tricky to do
Great video.
The best winter tyres I ever had were some insa turbo t-2. Very soft rubber so just amazing in deep snow.
I've seen some mixed reviews about this brand, I'm not sure who manufacturers them!
@@tyrereviews there a retreading manufacturer over in Spain. I live in the Scottish Borders so it can get really snowy. The insa turbo’s I had were hellish on the tarmac but when it came to ice and snow, they were unstoppable.
Going on my 3rd winter with the Nokian Outpost AT. Tires are at 60% with about 25k on them. They are awesome in just about every condition for me in central Colorado. Surprisingly quiet for how aggressive the tread is. Didn’t see any mileage penalty from my previous tires. Previous tires were Michelin LTX OE (surprisingly decent) and Pirelli Scorpion all terrain plus (great for the first 20k and then turned to noisy trash that were terrible in the snow).
Probably gonna stick with the Outpost AT, very happy with the tire. Only short-coming is on icy roads, definitely not a snow tire but still very happy with them overall.
I’m using Wildpeak AT3W for my “3 season” duties, and just got the X-Ice Snow SUV for winter in Iowa. Most of our winters are just cold dry roads (excess salt is usually the biggest risk!) but we do get snow and ice, and I usually travel for the holidays so it’s always nice to have the extra safety margin in winter weather.
Nice combination of tires
I was really impressed with a brand new set of BFG KO2 A/T tires in the snow. My 2WD Dakota became surprisingly capable in winter. HOWEVER. The following year, with not that many miles and a ton of tread left, they were seriously seriously degraded. Going up a ski resort road when they were new was a breeze. I was drifting, messing around, my buddy's Xterra needed 4x4 to keep up. After one year, on that very same road in nearly identical conditions, the Dakota failed to proceed, and I had to turn back. The whole incident really taught me that, while some non-winter tires can be quite impressive when fresh, a lot of that is a "new tire smell" party trick. To have half a chance of working decently on a 2nd season, a true winter tire is really where it's at.
How much wear was there at each of the three years?
@tyrereviews I couldn't tell you a number for wear, but they're still well, well over 50% tread depth today as we roll into the 4th winter.
1st winter, went straight from the tire shop to the mountain. They were great.
2nd winter, 1yr old, failed to reach the Lodge.
Last winter, primarily used my Miata on sticker-fresh Conti DWS06. I did not trust the Dakota.
This year, the Miata just got Blizzak WS90s because I burned those DWS like pencil erasers last summer, lol
In defense of the BFGs, they're epic on gravel. I decided to do some rally-inspired driving a few weeks ago, and it took full throttle in 2nd gear with a 5.9L V8 to break them loose on gravel. Better traction on wet gravel than on wet asphalt!
Nokians FTW. I've got two sets of the no longer made Nordman 7 SUV on both our spare car, a 2004 Lincoln Town Car (with open diff too!) and my mom's 2009 Mercury Mariner (front wheel drive) and they are almost unstoppable with them on. And we've gotten going on 5 or 6 years of winter only use on them as well. Prior to the Lincoln, we had the Hakkapellitta 8 (older model) on a 2003 Chevy Impala that had no ABS or traction control (which were optional equipment in 2003) and that thing went everywhere. You had to legit try hard to get the tires to lock up too.
It would be nice to visually combine the tire name and type. It's a bit confusing to know which tire is what. Thank you!
I managed to get a set of wrg5s so here’s to hoping they are even better than the g4.
I've been using an all terrain, all weather tire for 2 years and it's good. It's a Maxxis AT-771, size 235 60 r16 mounted on a 4x4 VW T5 van with diff lock. Very good in snow, decent on ice. Pulled out on some snow and icy forrest roads where only real 4x4 vehicles and forrest tractors were moving.
Not brilliant on mud, but it works.
Nokia is a great european brand for their klimaat, they are king. I love to have some
all terrain on my Subaru Crosstrek in Dutch mud. Best from both worlds👍
The closing tune is a 100% match to the topic of the video. Good work
Not sure if sarcasm
@@tyrereviews not at all sarcasam my friend. Great video.
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I just got the DWS06+ mounted on my car for winter. Central NC doesn't see much snow, mostly cold and wet with occasional ice storms and some flurries.
I think I'll definitely have to fit a set of UHP summer tires once it warms up though - my Golf R shines with a grippy, sticky tire.
Now this is where all snow traction tests should begin, with comparison amongst the same brand. I've used the Hakkapeliitta winter tires before and honestly they didnt seem better than my blizzak ws80 or even dmv2
Oooo, nice review of these Nokian’s. Looking forward to a long term review of the Outpost nAT. I just put a 2nd set of General Grabber ATX’s on my Sierra. Love the Grabber! I hear nothing but good thing about Nokian and the Outpost nAT looks to be similar to the Grabbers (and others). Just wish the nAT had a rim protector. Thats a big selling point for me.
Got really excited to see this one! I really do wish the BF Goodrich TA/K02s were part of this comparison. @Tyre Reviews - Looking forward to your future comparison of the nATs compared to other AT tires. I run the BFs on my truck and the WRG4s on my AWD wagon and have chosen those tires based on snow/ice performance. Wonder if my next set of truck tires will be the Outpost nATs. @Tyre Reviews - When will Nokian come out with an updated all-weather tire? The WRG4 are getting a bit long in the tooth....
I always ask for BF Goodrich TA/K02 snow performance review has not happened. I always asked for KO2 vs Falken WP AT3W vs Goodyear WR Duratrac, Toyo OC AT3 because they are the top choice for 4WD owners. I see others also requesting in the past. At this point I'm thinking it never gonna happen. :(
Last time I commented "Can’t wait for an episode of “The Best SUV 3 Peak Mountain Snow Flake A/T Tire in winter” Comparing tires like BFG KO2 (or newer KO3), Goodyear Wrangler Duratrac (without studs), Falken Wildpeak AT3W, Toyo Open Country AT3. Maybe even add Michelin LTX A/T 2 to the mix as many 4Runner owners swear about its winter performance even without 3PMSF rating."
I have the ATs on my SUV but I switch them with Pirelli WeatherActives as the ATs are heavier & louder. You could run them all the time - I often drive 700 miles on them to get trailheads and they are fine. Unless you are doing actual off-roading, I suggest the APT instead. A friend has those on his Outback and he swears by them, even off-road.
@@ckm-mkcI’m not sure why so many people believe they need off road tires. I’ve been in stock 1/2 ton trucks going up fairly steep and gnarly dirt ski hill access “roads” in trucks that have standard tires like Michelin LTX’s and the trucks don’t seem to struggle very much. It’s a shame because probably 90% of the truck owners here in Canada won’t ever use the full ability of a AT tire but almost all of them could utilize the full ability of a well built all weather tire in the winter.
@@LionRunner - this might get your part of the way there…
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Audi A4 quattro with Nokian Snowproof,the best choice for snow and ice,also in wet and dry they are very good
@tyrereviews One fact about the difference in stress and anxiety between winter vs all-season I give often is that if I'm on a motorway in cold/ice/snow conditions, and I've got my winter tyres fitted, I can use traffic in front of me as a predictor. If I see someone in front of me start to struggle, it gives me time to compensate in speed. If I'm on all-season, I don't know that *I* won't be the guinea pig that loses traction first, and therefore I can't really use the other traffic as much as a predictor. Certainly, if I see someone in front of me having a problem, I can do my best to slow down with the lead time, BUT... it's also possible that traffic in front of me WON'T struggle depending on the quality of their tires, and then suddenly and without warning or notice to slow down, I can lose control. Makes a huge mental difference.
Another great video. When will you do summer texting(wet/dry) of the Nokian One and the new Nokian WRG5(which just came on their website). And of course compare them to the Conts and Michelins. Thanks.
Nice. I have the Nokian Tyres One on my Camry but I live in coastal SC, minimal snow area. I got my niece who lives in Colorado a set of Nokian WR G4 tires though for her Honda Accord.
I have the Nokian R3’s and there fabulous in snow on my 2020 Honda Pilot AWD
This is my first season having an AT tire on my vehicle. I have BFGoodrich AT KO3's I also have a set of blizzaks, Im going to go through the first big storm to decide if Im going to switch because even just a dusting, I was reasonably impressed with the KO3s snow performance.
Looking forward to more nAT test results. They are strong contenders for my next set of tires on my truck. I'm in the NY snowbelt, and want a single set of tires to run all year.
I have the normal Outpost on my 07 Silverado 4x4 1500, plus we have them on a 06 Yukon Denali AWD and a 97 Chevy suburban 4x4 at work. I've owned all kinds of tires from Toyo AT, Cooper, Firestone, etc and the Outposts are the best. Very, very quiet and very, very good in the rain. I live in the Pacific NW so we know rain. And like I tell people Nokian invented the winter tire.
Recently purchased a set of WRG4’s for my 16 manual corolla S 😬
Live in lake effect area… 100+ inches of snow yearly average.. thanks for my purchase confirmation bias 😅 nice vid!
Spent alot of time thinking about what I should put on my 2012 golf R. I live in Whistler BC, Canada. And if you've seen anything on the sea to sky highway, thats what I drive weekly. Today 8 C and dry, other day 4C and pooling water, Winter will be a mix of wet days and icy days. Typically we run the x ice, but the more I watch and think about it, we might be better off on something slightly different. I went with the alpine ps4 getting them on tomorrow. I was on the fence of running all season for the wet performance. And since I have the R I shouldn't be getting stuck. BUT on a ski trip across bc, those few times a season it happens, I think it would be scary on an all season. So feel like I went with the perfect compromise, we shall see.
Another great video❤
It's good you're testing it with a real work truck like a Hilux, those American trucks rarely get any real use anyways.
Great video, as ever. Are there compound differences between the earlier Outpost AT and current nAT versions? I fitted a set of Outpost AT on my adventure rig even before reviews were widely available as have always been impressed by Nokian's winter prowess; to combine that into an all-terrain tire capable of tackling long highways in quiet comfort while handling the trails and snow is terrific, and more balanced than the other AT choices on the market. In my usage one noticeable trade off however is in the area of wet braking performance, which is decidedly lower than the Michelin Defender LTX all-seasons that was on the SUV prior to the Outpost AT's.
Gonna definitely get some outpost At tires when my all weathers need replacing.
Swapped my F-150 tires from all season to Outpost nAT’s last week. Tires look stunning, road noise is very quiet and only 0.5 mpg drop after 1000 miles in mostly dry PNW conditions.
Comment later this season and I’ll provide a snow performance update.
Yay, please update me / the site once you have some more miles
Are the Outposts the same size as your old tires? Surprised mpgs lowered considering how lightweight they are.
Same tire size. More aggressive tread pattern on the Outposts nAT.@@tyeetamer
I've run all weather AT tires for the last few years and I find that in Calgary AB Canada which gets lots of chinooks they work fine. Not as good as dedicated winter with studs by any means, but I can drive confidently when it dumps snow.
I'm still searching for a review of the Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V3. It should be a nordic winter tire, maybe you can get one and compare it to the Hakkapeliitta? Especially the noise rating would be interesting, everyone is saying the new Bridgestone winter tires are louder than the competitors.
That's another US only model so I'd check out tirerack.com for testing
I would be grateful if you included the Nokian Outpost APT tire in the following tests. This tire is very mysterious, there is practically no information about it. Is it really not worthy of any attention? The appearance and price are beautiful. I would like to know how it actually behaves during tests.
Love your channel. I also live in salt lake. I ran the Falken AT3W for 4 years. Never worried about running that tire everywhere. Currently I have the Cooper Discover Rugged Trek. Way behind the Falken in every way but mud performance. Bought the cooper when I believed I was moving to a damper muddier place. Miss my Falken’s but would love to fit the nAT
You should try the Nokan AT - way better than either of those, with the security of a full Kevlar shell.
I'd like to test the Falken, I hear very good things about it. I think it would be close with the Nokian.
@@tyrereviews it is difficult finding Nokian or many other brands at the tire shops in and around Herriman. Any advice you have on that front would be greatly appreciated
Sorry, I don't, I guess I'd just find them online and have a local shop fit them @@TKsw191145
would be great if you could test the new Yokohama Geolandar CV 4S G061
My experience of all terrain tyres in snow is with BFG AT KO and Cooper Discoverer ST Maxx. The BFG AT was definitely better in snow than the Coopers but the Coopers are much better in mud.
Can we see a review with the Nokian Hakkapalitta LT3 non studded? Looking at all nokian winter tyres are they also the best Winter tyres for big trucks?
That's quite a niche segement, not sure I'll get time to do it but if I do I certainly will
@@tyrereviewsit's niche, but there's close to zero head to head reviews out there that properly compare LT snows, let alone LT snows vs 3PMSF-rated LT AT tires. I'd love to see someone do a proper comparison; I just replaced my LT2s with a set of LT3s, but I also wondered if I'd have been okay with the Outpost or another AT tire. Based on how the Outpost did against the R5, I'm guessing the LT3 was the right choice, but I'd also love to see a snow, ice and dry comparison between the studded and studless LT3. I went with studs (to optimize traction when there isn't much available), but I really wonder how much I'm giving up on dry roads and what I'm actually gaining on ice.
I live in a very hilly area that gets a lot of polished hard ice. I have been running studs for the last 15 years, but have a new car. I think I am going to go with some H10's if I can find them where I live. It is a PITA getting them changed, but the relief I get when driving on them is worth it.
interesting findings, i currently have a set of goodyear wrangler duratracs on my truck and the snowfall last week had me worried despite the 3-peak rating and i was pleasantly surprised when it took quite a bit of effort to break grip on the drive home. it would be a great study to see how other brands would compare as you mentioned
It's the official off-road tire of the Colorado detachment of the US Forest Service for a reason. I run them on my Jeep just due to the snow performance
Definitely would be interested to see how the Copper AT3 XLT performs against the NAT
This is the channel. Bfg k03 pending release in non oem sizes. Looking forward to how that stacks vs. The nat.
I'm excited for that release next year too!
How does the Nokian Outpost nAT compare to the General Grabber ATX in general and particularly in snow/winter conditions? Thank you!
I use all weather tire in Moscow. We call this tire European tire. And winter tire we call Scandinavian. But on Moscow a lot of chemicals reagents on the road. Temperature are always jumping above and under 0.
Would love a video where you look at tyre performance in various conditions at various levels of tread wear!
That's in the planning
I'm very limited in tyre choice because not many manufacturers make a 7.50R16 all terrain.
I used to run Michelin but last tyre change moved to Bridgestone with the AT001 and I've been blown away with how much better it is than the Michelin. That's in wet, dry, noise, mud... and it has the 3 peak mountain snowflake which the Michelin didn't. Add in the fact that it's cheap and has lasted three times longer I'm happy - but it would be nice to know how it compares to other brands that I can't fit.