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My Grandfather's brother was in World War II and he got a medical discharge due to what they said was "Shell Shock". I remember as a kid being around him and he was so so nice. Had a Heart of Gold. Day by day he would start out ok and then all of a sudden he wasn't hisself. Everyday was like that. It was so heartbreaking. He always had a smile though, always. He went to be with the Lord about 15 years ago. I miss him.
My grandfather's brother got it pretty badly and asked for 5 years straight to be discharged. Unlike older brother they refused compassionate reasons then tried sending him to Korea. Died 22 years ago
Before the term PTSD became the norm after real and thorough scientific research went in to it, they would refer to this condition as "Shell shock" or sometimes 'combat fatigue'.
This is really hard to watch. I only lasted the first two minutes and just stopped the video. Thank You for your service gentlemen. I really hope they made it all the way to old age. Hopefully.
This is why I love being a therapist. Human beings are SO unbelievably strong. 🥺 I watch these men now with tears in my eyes at one of the most difficult times in their life where I imagine they feel their weakest. Yet this is in fact one of their bravest and strongest moments. Facing these fears and continuing to live each day despite it. I truly hope they found some relief and that the treatment centers they were at were okay. I was surprised and very relieved to see how the one psychologist encouraged showing emotion 😭💕
Imagine every day seeing friends and people you talked to minutes ago be dilacerated and on pieces by bullets and artillery shells. And 24hours day by day listening shoots and firefights
@@Rocksteady246 I don’t think social sciences should be taken with a grain of salt because of the “type” of science it is. I think psychology is taken with a grain of salt because it is ever growing. We (researchers in the field) are always learning more and challenging each other’s findings; just like any science.
@@Rocksteady246 I agree with this. I've seen dozens of psychologists and therapists growing up and even a few as an adult. I never got any real help until I visited a neurologist. Every psychologist I see has always been extremely arrogant, lacks understanding of how complex the human brain really is, tend to not have any experience with mental struggles on a personal level. They also tend to know nothing about the human brain or current neurological therapies that have been showing true promise in aiding individuals. Not to mention, iirc, psychologists and psychiatrists (who aren't up to date with modern treatments) tend to make matters worse for many individuals. Many of these "psychological" issues are actually neurological issues. Physical defects with the brain that require actually rebuilding / repairing the human brain. Sucks when I have to spend $90 of my money to educate a professional for an entire hour on what exactly TMS Therapy is... All while being told; "I've never heard of that" "You know, treatments like that can be harmful" And so on. They start by saying they know nothing of it. Then as you go on they tell me how it can be harmful and even lie about having a couple patients that did it after saying they never heard of it. They think they can fix everyone. Psychologists are basically over priced Google searches + talking to a random stranger about what's on your mind. Which don't get me wrong. It helps some people. Especially when all they need to do is talk or for some reason can't think of coping mechanisms on their own like finding the humor in things when things get bad.
@@Rocksteady246 not really as you can apply that sentence to any other major and jobs. We could say that retail jobs arent important compare to better pay jobs or better majors to study for a career in. It is a important part of a bigger system as other more important parts of science. For freud though, his findings are something taken as a grain of salt as it is based on the interpretation and context the info would be implemented.
Post traumatic stress disorder = Your body and mind are stuck in the traumatic experiences and you relive them over and over again until the end of your life without therapy. A small trigger is enough and your body plays this state again and again...
Fuck man, I really couldn’t relate to anybody for a long time about PTSD, but seeing the guy at 4:00 minutes who couldn’t walk, I used to think how could that actually happen to someone? Until things got bad enough and had it happen to me, and I had to grab onto things to walk around the house, at times I couldn’t even leave my bed. Took a long time to improve. Things are still hard. The fucking shaking and spasms, inability to walk or speak, man I can relate. I was impressed by how modern the psychiatrist was in how he looked at PTSD treatment.
My son is fighting in the Donbass defending our Motherland Ukraine from the Russian invaders. I pray for him and ask you all to mention my son and all the defenders of Ukraine in your prayers if you want to help us
@@La_Vita_Bella Just said a prayer for your son, your family, and strength and peace to Ukraine 💕 May God give you strength and peace to your beautiful county soon 😔
It's so sad when he says I do not cry deliberately.I hope the psychologist is rest in peace,he's a very good man. These stigmas over men is so terrible, he experienced such a horrible thing but still can't express himself without guilty. I hate these sorts of stigmas. We are all human we are not robots,of course men can cry too. I wish it did change after many years, but I think it's not changing, humanbeing still try to make the world a jail with expectations and stigmas. And when he talks about his sweetheart, who just gave him importance in his life for the first time, I couldn't holded my tears. All of us are important because there is no reason. I hope we can give ourselves more importance without anybody's confirmation. I think, because of stigma and tragic experiences, fathers were so strict and didn't show any emotion towards their family a d the cycle is going on. I always remember what I heard from my father about his grandfather, who lost his family when he was a teenager,and he survived because he was hiding behind his brother's corpse,hecan't move from here for days before he can be brave enough to do.He was so shocked and scared.I think because of that he was so strict to my grandfather and his siblings, they were so scared even to talk.But before this event, the pregnant wife of the commander said please don't kill them, and because of that, many people survived, like the mother and sister of my father's grandfather. We still remember this woman. Even in such a cruel time, there were good people. Thank you to this kind-hearted woman, maybe I wouldn't have been born if she hadn't done that. I hope she had lived a good life and rest in peace.
Not surprising this film was banned for so long, given that is the invariable response to any facts contradicting the desired, official narrative. Meanwhile a generation grew up with distant fathers, lots of little "quick pop" bars even in rural areas, and a prevading sense during the '50s - when I grew up - that nothing is as it seems, and nobody is telling you the whole story about anything. Those little secret bars are gone now, along with the people who needed them. And the suicide rate among today's veterans is horrifyingly high.
You unlock memories I forgot I had. Surely I'm much younger, but I have faint memories of various veteran outposts in the 90s and throughout the 2000s that my father would bring me to. WWII, Korean, Vietnam vets as we were still fighting in the Middle East at that time. My father never wanted to go home, and never went to bed when he was around those guys. 99% of them were strangers too. Sorry for getting off topic, I agree with your point.
I experienced a good deal of mortar fire in Kandahar, Afghanistan in 2013 and 14. I thought I wasn't very bothered by it when I was there. These days, any unexpected loud noise startles the hell out of me. And that was just the result of the occasional indirect fire. Hard to imagine what these men were going through after having experienced true hell on earth
1:46 This man fought for our freedoms that we enjoy today. Such a sweet and sincere man. God bless him wherever he is now, whether still alive or having earned his eternal reward.
Just remember that none of the political leaders and their families will ever be in this situation. They will make the common man fight for them and their selfish greed of power and money.
Actually, their families can and sometimes will be. In WWI, Theodore Roosevelt’s son was killed in France, in WWII, another one of his sons also died at the front in France. Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s son, James, served as an XO of a US Raider outfit in the beginning of the war. I get your point, but even in war, the rich and the poor suffer.
The rough and angry sounding army dudes interrogating these young men should have been replaced by gentle psychologists, the dude on the left at 4:55 as an example, I felt bad for that young man he was being so intense with
Exactly! I feel bad for these men who didn’t really have well-trained therapists helping them. Instead, there where these army guys treating them like they were just acting up and could just ‘snap out of it.’ Like rubbing salt on a wound.
So many people have no concept at all of the stark horror these men went through. Over 500,000 dead. In just 4 years. I served in Afghanistan and Iraq and I will never forget.
My dad , who was a WWII POW moved to our area because all his friends who experienced the same situation moved here. They talked a lot to each other when they were struggling with PTSD. My dad thought about seeing a professional, shortly before he passed away when I was 9. Seeing the one soldier cry, made me remember a when I woke up, because my b dad was crying loudly and moaning in his sleep. Those poor soldiers, who went through so much, because they love their country. I am thankful, for the sacrifices they made.
Thank you so much for posting this. This gives much needed insight into the grim reality for a lot of WWII veterans. It's talked about extensively when it comes to Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq vets, but the PTSD issue seems to be almost unheard of from WWII vets. All that's talked about is the endless parades, the heroism, the sacrifices, the holocaust, but sadly there just isn't much about what they faced afterwards.
This is really incredible to watch at such a high frame rate. The movement is so smooth that these men feel so much more real as does their pain. I'm having to turn my head and hide my watering eyes. Wow
Respect to the men who not only got serious injuries like shell shock, mustard gas, "Trench foot", shrapnel bomb but they also helped millions of people live.
My uncle was survived the entire North African as well as the Italian campaign without a single wound save his mind. Came home and immediately turned to Alcohol. Couldn’t keep a job or a relationship. Finally came back to the farm in 1960 to work for my dad, his younger brother. They called it shell shock back then and it continued to get worse. Then one day he got a hold of my Dads rifle and tried taking us all prisoner threatening to kill us all if we dared lower our hands. I was 4 at the time. Thank God my Dad who had a very calm demeanor was able to talk him back to reality and defuse the very tense and terrifying situation. After this he would spend the remainder of his life in different institutions. I remember going to see him on Sundays with my Mom and Aunt, his sister. He only continued to get worse however with thunder storms being the worst for him. He was only 54 when his tortured mind took him back to Monte Cassino for one last time. During this flashback episode his heart saved him any further pain. RIP Unc. 😢🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I wrote part of my MA thesis on this documentary. If you get a chance to see the entire thing--it is out there, but in B&W, you have to see it. Produced in 1946, it was not shown to the general public until 1984--deemed too controversial by the Army, who were the ones who asked John Huston to make it in the first place. Like it or not, it is IMO the most fascinating documentary ever made. And the colorization of this, which I thought I would hate, actually makes the movie even more powerful. I would love to see the entire movie upscaled. Great work on a rare film and one of my favorites.
As a French born, this is very important for me to watch this. My father had a different side of the war. He was a child and grew up seeing the German soldiers marching the streets of our occupied town. He was also, later, a Vietnam War Veteran and would never speak about what he saw. I guess he probably did have PTSD. Having said that, he looked up to all the American soldiers, all these brave young men. He would be happy for me, today, knowing that I married an American. He died in 2009 but his entire life he looked up to the American soldiers who fought in WW2. He taught me to never forget. It is therefore with a lot of emotions that I dedicate this comment to all the sons, fathers, and brothers who never returned.
@@berserkeroflove Has it ever crossed your mind that I may be married and that my maiden name may be, indeed, French? I am allowed to be married to an American too? Your world is small, not mine.
@@valeriehartman3705 Dont feel attacked. Your surname is German. Your husband probably has some German heritage. I didnt wanted to say that you are lying or arent allowed to marry an American. Not all people on the internet want to attack you
@@berserkeroflove My husband does not have a German heritage and quite frankly the origin of my husband's name has nothing to do with you or with the context of this video. I am French born with a French maiden name and I didn't come to comment here nor justify on why I am French with a German sound-like name which is really, really not.
This for the record could be taken from any war, any time period…reactions like this still happen today. Many of the guys here are like only in their 20’s and had seen things no person should ever see. War is hell. Pure and simple.
I was lucky enough to serve in Canada’s military in war time. Lucky because I saw men who were the greatest of my generation. The greatest. Not many people get to appreciate what men like this are really like. To appreciate what war does to a person. I never experienced what they did but I knew them. So proud to say they are my friends.
Continual or constant stress in any situation, especially combat, can certainly cause psychological turmoil. I hope these guys were able to recover sufficiently to have a normal life.
I had to stop watching. My dad was in charge of a small LCT during WWII. A Kamikaze crashed right next to the boat and his men below were so shell-shocked he had to send half his crew home. War is hell.
Amazing. Send soldiers home immediately after concussion. In the USSR, they would not have been sent anywhere, but left at the front and they would have continued to fight with this concussion. I am amazed that we have so few documented cases of PTSD in Russia (USSR). While in the USA there are many films about PTSD after Vietnam, for example. We do not have such cases, that is, it was all the same for shell-shocked people. And the propaganda said that everything was fine with the soldiers. This is what the victory of individualism in the USA means.
During the First World War it was actually called Shell Shock. Then it was actually called Combat Fatigue or Battle Fatigue in the Second World War and also the Korean War. Then it was actually changed to Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). There's something going to War and see the battles he fought does something to the human mind. Young men are actually the ones who have to experience it not the one who send them there in the first place. In ancient days even the king would actually go to battlefield with his troops. He might be captured by the enemy troops or maybe killed by his enemy, he was actually there for his troops.
It’s unbelievable how I see videos of young people today wanting themselves to go to war as if it’s cool, manly, or “honorable.” But no, seeing this video, why would you want this?
@@TomorrowWeLive People would certainly fight for their country when needed. But why would you *want* another war? You’ve already seen veterans suffering from PTSD, while economies collapse during and after a war.
@@TomorrowWeLive And how come the politicians that send these boys to war give up their individual comforts? Why should the average human have to have a brainwashed cretin like you guilt trip them?
Because a lot of people think they are something they aren’t. A lot of people, particularly young people, think they are the exception and that they will be the hero, or the survivor, or the winner. A lot of people believe there is glory or honor in it. War is where naive idealism clashes with the savagery of existence when that existence is taken to the absolute extremes. There is no way for anyone to appreciate this unless they have seen it, felt it, or smelled it themselves. There is no way to explain the sensory overload and the fact that absolutely nothing makes sense while you are simultaneously in danger of being arbitrarily killed by thousands of different things in the most grotesque of ways imaginable. Experience that feeling and those conditions for an extended period of time and it breaks down even the strongest wills of combatants. Those who have never seen war and claim they want to go to battle have no idea what they’re asking. Unfortunately for those that end up there, when they figure out how stupid they were…it is too late and now the only way out is to become severely wounded, finish your tour, or victory.
Men were called loonies/crazy and locked up in asylums after they acted out. Society just wanted everything to go back to normal and PTSD was not on that list. Great dramatised example is Teddy Duchamp's father, who took his son's ear to a stove, after self medicating on alcohol binges and was locked up in "the nut house".
My grandfather took 30 years to get used to the football siren/horn because he would continually hear the air raid siren instead even though he was NCO.
I’ve seen ww1 footage of patients with shell shock, how a lot of them are visibly shaking, one poor soul even got triggered by a cap and the doctor was waving it at him as he was trembling, I’m glad they were getting proper treatment during the Second World War though.
These psychiatrists showed incredible compassion and empathy towards these traumatised soldiers. God bless them and thank you for your service during this difficult time. War is hell.
I couldn't imagine going from a small town, and the only thing close to violence you would have seen was a bar fight or a theater movie. Then go from that to a war where huge explosions and sounds of machine guns all pounding all around you. Seeing dead bodies piled up and the wounded people coming back to bases of operation.
Well said. People had exposure to gore/violence in the form of hunting/farming, but nowhere near the levels of overall exposure/desensitization we are at nowadays from a lifetime of growing up witnessing horrific events on the internet/media.
Greetings from Germany. Ich hoffe, diese amerikanischen Soldaten wurden wieder gesund und hatten ein erfülltes Leben. I hope these American soldiers got well and lived full lives.
@@mori6154 everything does change but there's still history, Germany went to war against many of US, Americans (and me) aren't very fond of Germans but I wouldn't say we hate you guys
The Germans who started this war and fought in it are dead or dying out. Us younger generations hope for peace and forgiveness, but don't really understand any resentment since we we're never involved. We we're just born here and grew up in shame of our nationality as well as family. "We are responsible for the world wars" has been hammered into our heads since we were kids. I'm tired of being blamed for the war myself. Greetings from Germany! Greetings from a generation that hoped this would never have happened and who generally care for the wellbeing and outcome of shown soldiers cause we don't give a shit about our grandparent's racist and nationalist ideology.
I don't think you would fully realize the horror, until you were near a an explosion that wiped out your comrades who a minute ago were sitting next to you
The pain and suffering of an awful lot of military personell ended on the battlefield, in the skies and on the ocean. These poor blokes continue to suffer from the pain of war long after the war has ended. The men and women who go to war should be given the royal treatment when they return. And the doctors and nurses who treat their horrible injuries.
So sad and personally speaking, the poor soul's bring home somewhat the reality of it. A god dam nightmare we don't see tucked away from it except via films or real time footage and desensitised. Poor them and thanks for your service ❤
War is a place where the young kill one another without knowing or hating each other, because of the decision of old people who know and hate each other, without killing each other. -- Erich Hartmann, Wehrmacht fighter pilot.
The last guy describing seeing “flying fishes” (which were gunshots) is sad. Can you imagine seeing bullets fly and bodies drop? So scary! Goodness, humans aren’t meant to see things like that.
Grampa was dropped behind enemy lines he said they’d sleep marching, with one box of raisins for days. He was the first officer at Belsen. He still had shrapnel in his hands. He was a proud man, he joked about his binoculars belonging to a dead German. But he’d always break in two when he talked about the concentration camp, sob like a baby. Even in his 80s. A traumatised man that damaged my Mum and her sister because of it.
My grandpa got drafted and never spoke of the war. He was an engineer in New Gunia and Luzon. I remember he gave my court reporter mother an oral history of his service and 75% of it was getting wasted in Hawaii before shipping over lol.
I remember my grandfather who had this randomly falling on the floor in his room screaming every time he heard a sport siren. Seems the AFL siren reminded him of something.
A lot of the American and British soldiers got their PTSD from liberation of the concentration camps, not only fighting. The horrors these men seen is unthinkable, may they all rest in peace 🙏
@@Rocksteady246 This comment is laughable. You’ve ousted yourself as someone with clearly no experience or expertise in even the most basic medical profession. I urge anyone reading this comment to disregard it with a hearty laugh. Science: It’s Not for Everyone...
So sad to see all this young man hurtet without real hit from guns ore bombs. Wracks for her lifetime for a Nation's pride. That's unfair and unbelivable. Then and now, war is not the reason. Fuck war!!!
I've sort of wondered why some crack and some dont, well not as badly as others. Im curious if neuro divergents are more likley to crack due to us being more sensitive to noise, lights, over stimulation in general, Im ADHD myself and wonder how I would survive in a battlefield situation.
This kind of trauma is still happening but nobody tells you about it They don't want you to know about it. Our children, sons and daughters that enlist in the military, this is the kind of things that happen to them. War is evil. And it's never for any good. Nothing good comes of killing innocent people.
The African American fellow--he fought for a country in which he didn't have basic human rights. I hope they all went on to have good lives, but especially him. I hope he married his sweetheart.
Grandpa was a medic in WW 2. He had to help with shell shock troops aftershock treatment. The stories he told were far out. One guy was chocking on false teeth so he had to flick them out. Said the guy came up to hit him but was stopped by another medic that happened to walk in. Said one guy rode an imaginary motorcycle, making noises with his mouth. It was funny to hear but at the same time really messed up.
My dad never talked about WWIII he was in the British Navy in the Subs, when he heard someone on tv about being excited to go to war he'd be like nothing good comes from war. We'd ask what happened he'd say I don't want to talk about it.
My uncles went into combat in Europe in the Second World War. My high school teachers were among the Veterans and Refugees.. I left the STATES on account of that almighty image of the Patriot..being faithful to Uncle Sam
Reminder that a lot of these guys after this video would go on to become homeless, abusers, victimized, locked up in insane asylums. Mental health these days is pretty much ignored by powers that be, back then things were far worse.
So many "purely psychological" cases were in fact suffering from blast induced traumatic brain injury. Sir Frederick Mott, the great doctor, had figured this out in World War I., but as usual, medicine made the stupid and wrong decision that "shell shock" was always entirely emotional.
This is sad. I’ve received a small amount of trauma from a natural disaster, and death, and it’s not something that I can get over. Thinking of it causes emotional distress, and I’m not soft. I wonder how paramedics deal.
God bless them. I wonder what became of them. How far we've come in understanding this...and yet....war rages on ravaging the lives and minds of so many. 😢
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Nem parece ser um vídeo de setenta e sete anos e realmente muito triste ver o que essas pessoas passaram 😢
There are times when I wish that there is a hell for all those rich, comfortable politicians who send other people's children to fight wars, so they can profit. I shouldn't watch these docos, it breaks my heart every time.
Not all are gone, but not enough of them are left. I'm 42; and I find that many everyday people of all ages sound alright, but that the styles of speech in the modern news, entertainment, and commercial media are obnoxious-I usually shut them up as fast as I can. Things were mostly O.K. until about 2010, though there were things to complain about before then.
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My Grandfather's brother was in World War II and he got a medical discharge due to what they said was "Shell Shock". I remember as a kid being around him and he was so so nice. Had a Heart of Gold. Day by day he would start out ok
and then all of a sudden he wasn't hisself. Everyday was like that. It was so heartbreaking. He always had a smile though, always. He went to be with the Lord about 15 years ago. I miss him.
The brain doesn't know how to process war. It's not natural
Thank you for your testimony... I can understand how it was hard for you and your family
There's a great documentary here on UA-cam called Shell Shock in WW1
My grandfather's brother got it pretty badly and asked for 5 years straight to be discharged. Unlike older brother they refused compassionate reasons then tried sending him to Korea. Died 22 years ago
Before the term PTSD became the norm after real and thorough scientific research went in to it, they would refer to this condition as "Shell shock" or sometimes 'combat fatigue'.
The gentleman talking about his sweetheart in the beginning crying his eyes out that really got to me
He seems like such a nice guy.
@@ofallmyintention9496 he was a nice guy
Him apologising for crying🙁🙁
It's so weird to see this colorized, looks totally like a movie
Yeah it's amazing what technology can do
This is really hard to watch. I only lasted the first two minutes and just stopped the video. Thank You for your service gentlemen. I really hope they made it all the way to old age. Hopefully.
I could watch anymore either
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I couldn’t watch it all, there is no place for war in a civilised world and this proves it, poor boys.
Most likely they are not around any more.
This country has always been the main culprit of creating wars then throwing veterans off and away as if they don’t matter. All for greed and money.
This is why I love being a therapist. Human beings are SO unbelievably strong. 🥺 I watch these men now with tears in my eyes at one of the most difficult times in their life where I imagine they feel their weakest. Yet this is in fact one of their bravest and strongest moments. Facing these fears and continuing to live each day despite it. I truly hope they found some relief and that the treatment centers they were at were okay. I was surprised and very relieved to see how the one psychologist encouraged showing emotion 😭💕
Imagine every day seeing friends and people you talked to minutes ago be dilacerated and on pieces by bullets and artillery shells. And 24hours day by day listening shoots and firefights
@@Rocksteady246 I don’t think social sciences should be taken with a grain of salt because of the “type” of science it is. I think psychology is taken with a grain of salt because it is ever growing. We (researchers in the field) are always learning more and challenging each other’s findings; just like any science.
@@Rocksteady246 I agree with this. I've seen dozens of psychologists and therapists growing up and even a few as an adult. I never got any real help until I visited a neurologist. Every psychologist I see has always been extremely arrogant, lacks understanding of how complex the human brain really is, tend to not have any experience with mental struggles on a personal level. They also tend to know nothing about the human brain or current neurological therapies that have been showing true promise in aiding individuals. Not to mention, iirc, psychologists and psychiatrists (who aren't up to date with modern treatments) tend to make matters worse for many individuals. Many of these "psychological" issues are actually neurological issues. Physical defects with the brain that require actually rebuilding / repairing the human brain. Sucks when I have to spend $90 of my money to educate a professional for an entire hour on what exactly TMS Therapy is... All while being told;
"I've never heard of that"
"You know, treatments like that can be harmful"
And so on. They start by saying they know nothing of it. Then as you go on they tell me how it can be harmful and even lie about having a couple patients that did it after saying they never heard of it. They think they can fix everyone.
Psychologists are basically over priced Google searches + talking to a random stranger about what's on your mind. Which don't get me wrong. It helps some people. Especially when all they need to do is talk or for some reason can't think of coping mechanisms on their own like finding the humor in things when things get bad.
@@Rocksteady246 not really as you can apply that sentence to any other major and jobs. We could say that retail jobs arent important compare to better pay jobs or better majors to study for a career in. It is a important part of a bigger system as other more important parts of science. For freud though, his findings are something taken as a grain of salt as it is based on the interpretation and context the info would be implemented.
@@Rocksteady246 says the mental case getting mad at some random ladies comment on a UA-cam video. You could probably use a little therapy yourself.
Post traumatic stress disorder = Your body and mind are stuck in the traumatic experiences and you relive them over and over again until the end of your life without therapy. A small trigger is enough and your body plays this state again and again...
@@Rocksteady246 not international for all experts.
I have more than my fair share of traumatic experiences I relive day after day
@@SamuelBlack84 trauma is never fair my friend. But it is very curable, trust me. get help. 🙏
@@Rocksteady246 have a nice life Sir. Good bye.
@@Rocksteady246 no it isn't
Fuck man, I really couldn’t relate to anybody for a long time about PTSD, but seeing the guy at 4:00 minutes who couldn’t walk, I used to think how could that actually happen to someone? Until things got bad enough and had it happen to me, and I had to grab onto things to walk around the house, at times I couldn’t even leave my bed. Took a long time to improve. Things are still hard.
The fucking shaking and spasms, inability to walk or speak, man I can relate. I was impressed by how modern the psychiatrist was in how he looked at PTSD treatment.
I have never seen anything like this. It’s good that you made it available to show how war is literally hell.
My son is fighting in the Donbass defending our Motherland Ukraine from the Russian invaders. I pray for him and ask you all to mention my son and all the defenders of Ukraine in your prayers if you want to help us
@@La_Vita_Bella I surely will. May God protect him.
God doesn't exist
@@La_Vita_Bella Just said a prayer for your son, your family, and strength and peace to Ukraine 💕 May God give you strength and peace to your beautiful county soon 😔
not literally
It's so sad when he says I do not cry deliberately.I hope the psychologist is rest in peace,he's a very good man.
These stigmas over men is so terrible, he experienced such a horrible thing but still can't express himself without guilty. I hate these sorts of stigmas. We are all human we are not robots,of course men can cry too. I wish it did change after many years, but I think it's not changing, humanbeing still try to make the world a jail with expectations and stigmas.
And when he talks about his sweetheart, who just gave him importance in his life for the first time, I couldn't holded my tears. All of us are important because there is no reason. I hope we can give ourselves more importance without anybody's confirmation.
I think, because of stigma and tragic experiences, fathers were so strict and didn't show any emotion towards their family a d the cycle is going on.
I always remember what I heard from my father about his grandfather, who lost his family when he was a teenager,and he survived because he was hiding behind his brother's corpse,hecan't move from here for days before he can be brave enough to do.He was so shocked and scared.I think because of that he was so strict to my grandfather and his siblings, they were so scared even to talk.But before this event, the pregnant wife of the commander said please don't kill them, and because of that, many people survived, like the mother and sister of my father's grandfather. We still remember this woman. Even in such a cruel time, there were good people.
Thank you to this kind-hearted woman, maybe I wouldn't have been born if she hadn't done that. I hope she had lived a good life and rest in peace.
well said!!
Yes but this weak mentality wont give you men as harsh as him
They never came home trully.
😢 that is so sad and true
Not surprising this film was banned for so long, given that is the invariable response to any facts contradicting the desired, official narrative. Meanwhile a generation grew up with distant fathers, lots of little "quick pop" bars even in rural areas, and a prevading sense during the '50s - when I grew up - that nothing is as it seems, and nobody is telling you the whole story about anything. Those little secret bars are gone now, along with the people who needed them. And the suicide rate among today's veterans is horrifyingly high.
You unlock memories I forgot I had. Surely I'm much younger, but I have faint memories of various veteran outposts in the 90s and throughout the 2000s that my father would bring me to. WWII, Korean, Vietnam vets as we were still fighting in the Middle East at that time. My father never wanted to go home, and never went to bed when he was around those guys. 99% of them were strangers too. Sorry for getting off topic, I agree with your point.
War is evil
I experienced a good deal of mortar fire in Kandahar, Afghanistan in 2013 and 14. I thought I wasn't very bothered by it when I was there. These days, any unexpected loud noise startles the hell out of me. And that was just the result of the occasional indirect fire. Hard to imagine what these men were going through after having experienced true hell on earth
@@Rocksteady246 yes
@@Rocksteady246 There were worse places to be
@@Rocksteady246 Yeah I remember the boardwalk, Idk about volleyball but I remember there was a nice gym I went to about every day
@@Rocksteady246 yeah I remember a little coffee shop was in there too
My grandfather was in WW1. Slept in his clothes when he got home to Germany. Never got over it.
1:46 This man fought for our freedoms that we enjoy today. Such a sweet and sincere man. God bless him wherever he is now, whether still alive or having earned his eternal reward.
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I agree... he loved his girl so much too.
@@vegassincity702did you mean thr cry emoji?.
no they didn't. they were pawns of bankers.
A freedom you are all busy squandering to a more vile ideology now.
I hope The man at 1:40 was able to live a great life after this with his sweetheart. What a kind soul put through hell
Just remember that none of the political leaders and their families will ever be in this situation. They will make the common man fight for them and their selfish greed of power and money.
An it still goes on, never ending x
THANK YOU!
Pues de hecho sí
And pro-nouns. Todays modern soldier will be fighting so people back home can use the pro-noun of their choice
Actually, their families can and sometimes will be. In WWI, Theodore Roosevelt’s son was killed in France, in WWII, another one of his sons also died at the front in France. Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s son, James, served as an XO of a US Raider outfit in the beginning of the war. I get your point, but even in war, the rich and the poor suffer.
The rough and angry sounding army dudes interrogating these young men should have been replaced by gentle psychologists, the dude on the left at 4:55 as an example, I felt bad for that young man he was being so intense with
Exactly! I feel bad for these men who didn’t really have well-trained therapists helping them. Instead, there where these army guys treating them like they were just acting up and could just ‘snap out of it.’ Like rubbing salt on a wound.
He had him in hypnosis, he was being direct.
So many people have no concept at all of the stark horror these men went through. Over 500,000 dead. In just 4 years. I served in Afghanistan and Iraq and I will never forget.
My grandfather was there. He was never able to speak about his experiences, all in his life, he was scarred for life.
My dad , who was a WWII POW moved to our area because all his friends who experienced the same situation moved here. They talked a lot to each other when they were struggling with PTSD. My dad thought about seeing a professional, shortly before he passed away when I was 9. Seeing the one soldier cry, made me remember a when I woke up, because my b dad was crying loudly and moaning in his sleep. Those poor soldiers, who went through so much, because they love their country. I am thankful, for the sacrifices they made.
Thank you so much for posting this. This gives much needed insight into the grim reality for a lot of WWII veterans. It's talked about extensively when it comes to Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq vets, but the PTSD issue seems to be almost unheard of from WWII vets. All that's talked about is the endless parades, the heroism, the sacrifices, the holocaust, but sadly there just isn't much about what they faced afterwards.
This is really incredible to watch at such a high frame rate. The movement is so smooth that these men feel so much more real as does their pain. I'm having to turn my head and hide my watering eyes. Wow
Respect to the men who not only got serious injuries like shell shock, mustard gas, "Trench foot", shrapnel bomb but they also helped millions of people live.
We don’t know what suffering is until you’ve seen what these poor bastards have been reduced to. How horrible. Just horrible.
My uncle was survived the entire North African as well as the Italian campaign without a single wound save his mind.
Came home and immediately turned to Alcohol. Couldn’t keep a job or a relationship. Finally came back to the farm in 1960 to work for my dad, his younger brother.
They called it shell shock back then and it continued to get worse.
Then one day he got a hold of my Dads rifle and tried taking us all prisoner threatening to kill us all if we dared lower our hands.
I was 4 at the time. Thank God my Dad who had a very calm demeanor was able to talk him back to reality and defuse the very tense and terrifying situation.
After this he would spend the remainder of his life in different institutions. I remember going to see him on Sundays with my Mom and Aunt, his sister.
He only continued to get worse however with thunder storms being the worst for him.
He was only 54 when his tortured mind took him back to
Monte Cassino for one last time.
During this flashback episode his heart saved him any further pain.
RIP Unc. 😢🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
The veterans from my country (Brazil) were there, in Monte Cassino. Greetings 🤝
I wrote part of my MA thesis on this documentary. If you get a chance to see the entire thing--it is out there, but in B&W, you have to see it. Produced in 1946, it was not shown to the general public until 1984--deemed too controversial by the Army, who were the ones who asked John Huston to make it in the first place. Like it or not, it is IMO the most fascinating documentary ever made. And the colorization of this, which I thought I would hate, actually makes the movie even more powerful. I would love to see the entire movie upscaled. Great work on a rare film and one of my favorites.
As a French born, this is very important for me to watch this. My father had a different side of the war. He was a child and grew up seeing the German soldiers marching the streets of our occupied town. He was also, later, a Vietnam War Veteran and would never speak about what he saw. I guess he probably did have PTSD. Having said that, he looked up to all the American soldiers, all these brave young men. He would be happy for me, today, knowing that I married an American. He died in 2009 but his entire life he looked up to the American soldiers who fought in WW2. He taught me to never forget. It is therefore with a lot of emotions that I dedicate this comment to all the sons, fathers, and brothers who never returned.
Interesting that your last name is German. The world is truly small
@@berserkeroflove Has it ever crossed your mind that I may be married and that my maiden name may be, indeed, French? I am allowed to be married to an American too? Your world is small, not mine.
@@berserkeroflove And my married name is not German anyway because if it was, there would be two n at the end.
@@valeriehartman3705 Dont feel attacked. Your surname is German. Your husband probably has some German heritage. I didnt wanted to say that you are lying or arent allowed to marry an American. Not all people on the internet want to attack you
@@berserkeroflove My husband does not have a German heritage and quite frankly the origin of my husband's name has nothing to do with you or with the context of this video. I am French born with a French maiden name and I didn't come to comment here nor justify on why I am French with a German sound-like name which is really, really not.
This for the record could be taken from any war, any time period…reactions like this still happen today.
Many of the guys here are like only in their 20’s and had seen things no person should ever see.
War is hell. Pure and simple.
I was lucky enough to serve in Canada’s military in war time. Lucky because I saw men who were the greatest of my generation. The greatest. Not many people get to appreciate what men like this are really like. To appreciate what war does to a person. I never experienced what they did but I knew them. So proud to say they are my friends.
Hello. To serve in war time? WW2? How old are you? Greetings from Germany
@@Rocksteady246 Oh yes. That can be
Continual or constant stress in any situation, especially combat, can certainly cause psychological turmoil. I hope these guys were able to recover sufficiently to have a normal life.
Breaks my heart seeing how young these men were.
I had to stop watching. My dad was in charge of a small LCT during WWII. A Kamikaze crashed right next to the boat and his men below were so shell-shocked he had to send half his crew home. War is hell.
Amazing. Send soldiers home immediately after concussion. In the USSR, they would not have been sent anywhere, but left at the front and they would have continued to fight with this concussion. I am amazed that we have so few documented cases of PTSD in Russia (USSR). While in the USA there are many films about PTSD after Vietnam, for example. We do not have such cases, that is, it was all the same for shell-shocked people. And the propaganda said that everything was fine with the soldiers. This is what the victory of individualism in the USA means.
During the First World War it was actually called Shell Shock. Then it was actually called Combat Fatigue or Battle Fatigue in the Second World War and also the Korean War. Then it was actually changed to Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD). There's something going to War and see the battles he fought does something to the human mind. Young men are actually the ones who have to experience it not the one who send them there in the first place. In ancient days even the king would actually go to battlefield with his troops. He might be captured by the enemy troops or maybe killed by his enemy, he was actually there for his troops.
It’s unbelievable how I see videos of young people today wanting themselves to go to war as if it’s cool, manly, or “honorable.” But no, seeing this video, why would you want this?
Because they're not selfish, soulless, cowardly cretins and they care about more than their own individual comfort?
@@TomorrowWeLive People would certainly fight for their country when needed. But why would you *want* another war? You’ve already seen veterans suffering from PTSD, while economies collapse during and after a war.
@@TomorrowWeLive And how come the politicians that send these boys to war give up their individual comforts? Why should the average human have to have a brainwashed cretin like you guilt trip them?
@@TomorrowWeLive have you been there? Did you sign up? Are you interested in putting your life on the line for no good reason?
Because a lot of people think they are something they aren’t. A lot of people, particularly young people, think they are the exception and that they will be the hero, or the survivor, or the winner. A lot of people believe there is glory or honor in it. War is where naive idealism clashes with the savagery of existence when that existence is taken to the absolute extremes. There is no way for anyone to appreciate this unless they have seen it, felt it, or smelled it themselves. There is no way to explain the sensory overload and the fact that absolutely nothing makes sense while you are simultaneously in danger of being arbitrarily killed by thousands of different things in the most grotesque of ways imaginable. Experience that feeling and those conditions for an extended period of time and it breaks down even the strongest wills of combatants.
Those who have never seen war and claim they want to go to battle have no idea what they’re asking. Unfortunately for those that end up there, when they figure out how stupid they were…it is too late and now the only way out is to become severely wounded, finish your tour, or victory.
Men were called loonies/crazy and locked up in asylums after they acted out. Society just wanted everything to go back to normal and PTSD was not on that list.
Great dramatised example is Teddy Duchamp's father, who took his son's ear to a stove, after self medicating on alcohol binges and was locked up in "the nut house".
My grandfather took 30 years to get used to the football siren/horn because he would continually hear the air raid siren instead even though he was NCO.
I was thinking about that too.
My heart breaks. Vetrans never get enough respect . So many are homeless and the damn government dont give a shit.
Thanks so much to the people who made possible this video available on UA-cam!! So interesting!
I’ve seen ww1 footage of patients with shell shock, how a lot of them are visibly shaking, one poor soul even got triggered by a cap and the doctor was waving it at him as he was trembling, I’m glad they were getting proper treatment during the Second World War though.
These psychiatrists showed incredible compassion and empathy towards these traumatised soldiers. God bless them and thank you for your service during this difficult time. War is hell.
I couldn't imagine going from a small town, and the only thing close to violence you would have seen was a bar fight or a theater movie. Then go from that to a war where huge explosions and sounds of machine guns all pounding all around you. Seeing dead bodies piled up and the wounded people coming back to bases of operation.
Well said. People had exposure to gore/violence in the form of hunting/farming, but nowhere near the levels of overall exposure/desensitization we are at nowadays from a lifetime of growing up witnessing horrific events on the internet/media.
Greetings from Germany. Ich hoffe, diese amerikanischen Soldaten wurden wieder gesund und hatten ein erfülltes Leben. I hope these American soldiers got well and lived full lives.
@Funtime Florian Ich bin ein deutscher Patriot. Und das was die Nazis taten war falsch.
"Greetings from germany" under that type of video doesn't sound good. Greetings from Poland. German will never be my friend
@@xdudix Germany lost many territories to Poland in 1945. But that is past. We have to look forward. I like poland.
@@mori6154 everything does change but there's still history, Germany went to war against many of US, Americans (and me) aren't very fond of Germans but I wouldn't say we hate you guys
The Germans who started this war and fought in it are dead or dying out. Us younger generations hope for peace and forgiveness, but don't really understand any resentment since we we're never involved. We we're just born here and grew up in shame of our nationality as well as family. "We are responsible for the world wars" has been hammered into our heads since we were kids. I'm tired of being blamed for the war myself. Greetings from Germany! Greetings from a generation that hoped this would never have happened and who generally care for the wellbeing and outcome of shown soldiers cause we don't give a shit about our grandparent's racist and nationalist ideology.
I was born in 03. Damn man, back then was crazy..
I don't think you would fully realize the horror, until you were near a an explosion that wiped out your comrades who a minute ago were sitting next to you
The pain and suffering of an awful lot of military personell ended on the battlefield, in the skies and on the ocean. These poor blokes continue to suffer from the pain of war long after the war has ended. The men and women who go to war should be given the royal treatment when they return. And the doctors and nurses who treat their horrible injuries.
So sad and personally speaking, the poor soul's bring home somewhat the reality of it. A god dam nightmare we don't see tucked away from it except via films or real time footage and desensitised. Poor them and thanks for your service ❤
War is a place where the young kill one another without knowing or hating each other, because of the decision of old people who know and hate each other, without killing each other.
-- Erich Hartmann, Wehrmacht fighter pilot.
저 울고계신 흑인분.. 너무 인상좋으고 잘생기셨는데...맘아프네..
Wow war is hell I can only imagine my pops was in ww2 briefly talked to me about it before he passed he cried as he told me a few stories Rip pops
The last guy describing seeing “flying fishes” (which were gunshots) is sad. Can you imagine seeing bullets fly and bodies drop? So scary! Goodness, humans aren’t meant to see things like that.
Grampa was dropped behind enemy lines he said they’d sleep marching, with one box of raisins for days. He was the first officer at Belsen. He still had shrapnel in his hands. He was a proud man, he joked about his binoculars belonging to a dead German. But he’d always break in two when he talked about the concentration camp, sob like a baby. Even in his 80s. A traumatised man that damaged my Mum and her sister because of it.
20%???? So on average 1 casualty was hit by a bullet, 3 by artillery fragments, and 1 by--the unlivable horror of war. So saddening.
Meanwhile today kids on TikTok fake disorders because of their “trauma”.
My grandpa got drafted and never spoke of the war. He was an engineer in New Gunia and Luzon. I remember he gave my court reporter mother an oral history of his service and 75% of it was getting wasted in Hawaii before shipping over lol.
My Korean war grandpa was shell shocked very bad alcoholic in and out of mental hospitals one of the many reasons I'm anti war.
“War is where the old,cruel and wicked trick the young and stupid into killing eachother for money greed and power”
I remember my grandfather who had this randomly falling on the floor in his room screaming every time he heard a sport siren. Seems the AFL siren reminded him of something.
Its so sad...what they went through
A lot of the American and British soldiers got their PTSD from liberation of the concentration camps, not only fighting.
The horrors these men seen is unthinkable, may they all rest in peace 🙏
What about the horrors those "liberators" inflicted on German and European citizens?
@@TomorrowWeLive no surprise after seeing what the fuckin Nazis did!
@@Rocksteady246 This comment is laughable. You’ve ousted yourself as someone with clearly no experience or expertise in even the most basic medical profession. I urge anyone reading this comment to disregard it with a hearty laugh. Science: It’s Not for Everyone...
So sad to see all this young man hurtet without real hit from guns ore bombs. Wracks for her lifetime for a Nation's pride. That's unfair and unbelivable. Then and now, war is not the reason. Fuck war!!!
The biggest fault in this automatic colorization is that all the green U.S. Army uniforms turned blue.
Just children man .. I mean I know they are adults but I can see the child they once were if that makes sense .. poor men .
Imagine what the Ukrainian defenders are now experiencing in their own country, getting attacked by Russian Orcs. It’s hell on earth there!
Cringe
I've sort of wondered why some crack and some dont, well not as badly as others. Im curious if neuro divergents are more likley to crack due to us being more sensitive to noise, lights, over stimulation in general, Im ADHD myself and wonder how I would survive in a battlefield situation.
Shell Shock evolved to Battle Fatigue, and that evolved to PTSD over time. Fascinating.
and now gen z has PTSD over hate speech and wants to call it shell shocked
Yup. Pronouns are the landmines of today sir.
Shell Shock isn't a psychological condition. It's caused by brain injuries.
PTSD and Battle Fatigue are related but also aren't the same thing.
@@TheForeverAddicted PTSD is like a spectrum. These men are in the severe end.
Heartbreaking really. And to think not 20 years prior to this they looked upon these conditions as cowardice, and executed them.
This kind of trauma is still happening but nobody tells you about it They don't want you to know about it. Our children, sons and daughters that enlist in the military, this is the kind of things that happen to them. War is evil. And it's never for any good. Nothing good comes of killing innocent people.
My brothers-in-arms. 🙏🙏🙏
The African American fellow--he fought for a country in which he didn't have basic human rights. I hope they all went on to have good lives, but especially him. I hope he married his sweetheart.
Have no words for it. War is just absolutely insane. Have no words for what is happening now in Europe. I‘m very sad.
Grandpa was a medic in WW 2. He had to help with shell shock troops aftershock treatment. The stories he told were far out. One guy was chocking on false teeth so he had to flick them out. Said the guy came up to hit him but was stopped by another medic that happened to walk in. Said one guy rode an imaginary motorcycle, making noises with his mouth. It was funny to hear but at the same time really messed up.
This is amazing
may god bless all those that died and lived though they are barely living so sad
This is awful I feel for them so much ..while all they were used for was puppets and eventually forgotten about all together . So sad!
So sad, these young men deserved better for their courage.
It's never gonna be easy.
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Harrowing and fascinating at the same time.
To not react in some way to such horrific attrocities would be abnormal. Reacting is the bodys way of coping and dealing.
Não importam os motivos da Guerra a Paz é mais Importante!
My dad never talked about WWIII he was in the British Navy in the Subs, when he heard someone on tv about being excited to go to war he'd be like nothing good comes from war. We'd ask what happened he'd say I don't want to talk about it.
World war 3? Shit your dad from the future?
Por qué Tercera Guerra Mundial, de qué estás hablando?
great. I'm your fan.
My uncles went into combat in Europe in the Second World War. My high school teachers were among the Veterans and Refugees..
I left the STATES on account of that almighty image of the Patriot..being faithful to Uncle Sam
Men in 2022: emotions are terrible and you should feel bad
Men in 1945:
Reminder that a lot of these guys after this video would go on to become homeless, abusers, victimized, locked up in insane asylums. Mental health these days is pretty much ignored by powers that be, back then things were far worse.
So many "purely psychological" cases were in fact suffering from blast induced traumatic brain injury. Sir Frederick Mott, the great doctor, had figured this out in World War I., but as usual, medicine made the stupid and wrong decision that "shell shock" was always entirely emotional.
Man this is heavy 😔
Remember to always thank everyone for their service
This is sad. I’ve received a small amount of trauma from a natural disaster, and death, and it’s not something that I can get over. Thinking of it causes emotional distress, and I’m not soft. I wonder how paramedics deal.
The man at 3:00 is also in a ww1 documentary shell shock
God bless them. I wonder what became of them. How far we've come in understanding this...and yet....war rages on ravaging the lives and minds of so many. 😢
Nem parece ser um vídeo de setenta e sete anos e realmente muito triste ver o que essas pessoas passaram 😢
God bless the souls of these men,...and *ALL* of the souls of the *GREATEST GENERATION* there ever *WAS* and,... *EVER WILL BE* !!
I am thinking about how many would be ruined at the war now... I hope Ucraina and Russia find a solution together soon!
There are times when I wish that there is a hell for all those rich, comfortable politicians who send other people's children to fight wars, so they can profit. I shouldn't watch these docos, it breaks my heart every time.
What an extraordinary period of freedom they had to make this documentary. And these were by some of Hollywood's high profile talent. Nowadays....
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Amazing how these accents have gone extinct.
Not all are gone, but not enough of them are left. I'm 42; and I find that many everyday people of all ages sound alright, but that the styles of speech in the modern news, entertainment, and commercial media are obnoxious-I usually shut them up as fast as I can. Things were mostly O.K. until about 2010, though there were things to complain about before then.
Our poor boys went through hell. God bless them all
“You’re gonna carry that weight.”
What tool do you use to upscale to 40k60fps?
Search for the same kind of video but showing WWI veterans.. it's away far more dramatic. No one should pass through this kind of horror.
Does anyone know of a general with shell shock or is it only suffered by the brave who fight on the front lines?
God bless our heroes 🙏