Yun Overview - Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike [4K]
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2023
- Yun shares the title of "strongest" along with Chun-Li. Genei-Jin is an insane super that briefly turns Yun into an unstoppable combo machine, and can be used multiple times per round. The only thing that keeps him in check is how hard he is to optimise.
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It's interesting how Chun is defined by her great normals while Yun is more defined by great specials, but both have great supers which are useful in very different ways
Yun is rushdown with safety
Chun is SHUT DOWN
Chun’s super isn’t as good as people say imo, I think it’s more about who it’s attached to than the super itself
@@joyuz6583more specifically the leg it’s attached to, her c.mk is the problem
Not just CMK my guy@@galtar862
@@joyuz6583the super is three frames, goes half screen, does 40%, and is a very good chip option. Don’t get it twisted C.mk is good but what makes it so scary is the fear of half your heath bar going poof if you get hit by it because of SA2.
Yun's a prime example of how giving a character less health doesn't really do much to balance them if they have several other amazing things about them. I think Yun ties for the lowest health in the game but it doesn't matter much if he confirms into a Genei Jin combo, does nearly 50%, and is halfway to another Genei Jin barely three seconds later.
Gouki is the lowest. Also getting 50% or depends on how the combo is started. Confirming in SA3 with a special move heavily scales the damage and leads most Yun's to opt for a reset to build meter. If the Yun doesn't get the optimal post SA3 meter build, a solid player can easily take advantage of Yun's footsies and low health until next activation.
Health goes a long way to balancing him. It's a saving grace that high damage characters can kill him in 2 openings. Akuma is a similar story, he would easily be top tier if he didn't have such low health.
UMVC3 Phoenix would like a word
@@mildsome9713 Phoenix might be the worst offender ever. You stare at her too hard, she dies, but level 3 X-Factor Dark Phoenix can sweep a whole team before X-Factor runs out.
Another issue is his fast falling speed and small hurtboxes. While akuma also has very low health he also has slow fall speed and hurtboxes that make it very easy to land high damage combos on him. On top of that, yun has the quickest wakeup timings along with yang and dudley so it limits the other characters' oki.
It's amazing that people are still putting up content of this quality for decades old games. Some things just never die. This series is fantastic.
Ken is in the next 1? I think we all know what obligatory clip will be included there.
Man, idk why but the number 37 is all in my mind right now
every game deserves content as good as this, amazing stuff
It's kinda neat how a lot of the strongest characters play almost completely different
Yun on paper should be the best... but Chun's defensive options, health, damage, and tournament results say other wise. Great video and awesome noting that the skill ceiling is limitless. 24 years later new tech is still being discovered!
Yun is still cooler and he's not eye candy for japanese dudes that wanna crank it to anime girls.
I'm glad you are doing this series. I looked for Character overviews for this game not even a month ago and I couldn't find anything.
I do enjoy the use of the Online edition remixed BGMs. Nice series sir. Stay sharp until sf6 and tekken 8. We need you.
Yun is my preference out of him and Yang, mainly because of the skateboard lol
He's got a spinning cap taunt that deals damage lol 😂
I’m loving this 3rd Strike Series! Can’t wait to see the Ken video
Thank you for not calling him "Yan" 😅🤣 love these videos. I'm slowly trying to get into SFIII since last year and I'm loving these series so far!
Cool video man.damn i hope we see these 2 brothers in sf6,with a more mature redesign.
Thanks for showing love to 3s making the content you are currently. As a yun main I appreciate the video and hope it makes some people want to play the character however there are some things that should be addressed. You are absolutely right that the skill ceiling is limitless however the skill floor is also quite high compared to nearly every other character in the game. Yun is a rabbit hole of a character.
Yun isn't on the same tier as chun, while hes top 3 some would even argue that ken surpasses yun. Hes unfortunately relatively under represented especially compared to the rest of the "top 5" characters and even some below that. He takes too much damage and you can hardly make mistakes with him especially in some of the more snowbally matchups.
1. Yun being considered harder is not because he requires optimization (maybe just a miscommunication/wording) but rather because he lacks safety in many scenarios compared to his high tier counterparts. Yun defensively is quite poor compared to many other characters (especially on okizeme) and can require relatively large risks to make the most of things at times.
Yun requires immense situational knowledge in regards to nearly everything in his toolkit to be used properly (from simple divekick followup interactions to varying combo routes based on many factors in addition to character specific routes). Theres a reason you see very few yuns, mostly because the effort required to get the same results are skewed against yun compared to other characters and the knowledge requirements to even play him at a mid/competent level is much higher. Geneijin is extremely strong but to use it well takes a lot of time investment and understanding of a lot of the finer details of the character and geneijin's functionality itself. Yun is less and less oppressive the more knowledge you have of the game and the character, hes very much a knowledge check character up until a certain point/skill level.
2. Divekicks are not safe more often that not and put the opponent in an advantageous position RPS wise in many cases, however that requires the opponent understands how to deal with them properly (knowledge check). If an opponent has no idea how to properly defend against them other than trying to parry every single one they're going to have a bad time though. While its possible divekicks are going to be able to be done to be +5-10 on block using divekicks in a way that gets you the results you want is its own skill that can take a long time to properly master compared to other iterations of the twins like in the SF4 series or compared to other types of divekicks for other characters/games. Aiming for "perfect" divekicks all the time is a good way to lose as they are some of the most consistently parried and punished.
3. Shoulder is only psuedo safe as there are a few situations where it can be hard punished and your turn is at least over afterwards if they are blocked. The way they gets used more often than not is to try to give safe activation which is in truth a very risky thing to do the higher in "skill" you get at the game as strings/situations that lead into it are easily parryable as all shoulders are blue parries outside of EX. Many shoulders are simply able to be reacted to from players doing them from "greedy" positions that are too far away (like perfect max distance) and not being used as a means to stop specific movement decisions from the opponent pre-emptively. Shoulder has a lot of risk vs reward behind it even if its "safe" on block in most situations.
4. Yun's specials are defining however not something that he necessarily "shines" for. Zesshou (dash punch) is EXTREMELY hard to make safe and requires a 13 frame hit confirm from his crouching MK to reliably get this from a low attack (outside of c lk x 2 confirm which is actually quite difficult compared to other characters due to the c lk chain/cancel functionality compared to someone like ken) otherwise to use this it must be done from a link combo or LP-LK-MP Target Combo though it does get good followups for much of the cast if you hit with it. Shoulder was already covered above. Upkicks are poor as they are not invuln and are not a good anti-air choice, these are mostly used in combos or during geneijin enders. Zenpotenshin is his most defining move just as it is yang's as opening your opponents up is easier since this command grab cannot be teched and you get a combo into okizeme/setplay off of it (You do cover this).
5. Yun's normals in geneijin do not win every trade situation. While its a general rule of thumb that its "yun's turn" after a trade for most of the cast theres still plenty of instances where thats not true. Any trade that occurs and the opponent has a 3 frame or faster option that is not a throw will be able to combo off of the trade. An example of this is ken, if you trade geneijin normal into his super or EX dp ken can do either a LP or EX dp off of the trade as a combo. There are also some trades where characters like hugo can just SPD/Super yun as well, chun can c lp > super... you get the idea.
6. Yun is best played as a control character. While his mixups and rushdown can be strong his defining characteristic is how his tool set plays into controlling pace and position until he can best take advantage either with geneijin or with setplay from specific types of knockdowns (character specific). Playing him safely and in most cases optimally isn't just rotating through RPS scenarios like some might believe, while he can snowball games off of a few mixups most of the cast can do so as well (dudley, yang, ken etc) and many of his mixups require a lot of risk and commitment. For a mixup/rushdown character games can more often than not be a lot slower paced than it may seem (at least at the higher level of play, especially in specific matchups).
If you plan to do more than overviews for characters and you'd like some extra help for yun you're welcome to reach out on twitter or discord.
You need to start doing CVS2 content after this, this is so good!
Would love to someday. Lot of characters though!
Pov: your fighting Yun and he pops his 3rd install of the round 🫠
Yun was my favorite character in this game, I would love to see him come back in street fighter 6.
I hope Yun uses his skate board to fight . To make each brother more unique
Can't wait for Ken my favourite fighter 😍
Had been trying 3rd strike a couple of years ago. Dropped it as soon as I figured out Chun Li and this guy.
Great content
Great overview as always! My one disagreement is the claim yun sa3 is the best super, I would argue urien sa3 as the best super arts but that’s something I know you’ll discuss when we arrive to him
As a Urien player, I 100% agree that Genei Jin is the best 😂
Aegis is wonderful, versatile and it's def a top 3 super for me, but every aegis activation doesn't mean "I win the round now", as which happens (sadly) too often with Yun activating GJ.
Im a crappy Akuma player so I know fucking nothing but for what I have seen a handy player with Genei Jin can make total destroy in a bigger manner than a Aegis Reflector situation
I'm so happy 4 these
Nice video
Arya can you also do a dudley overview such an interesting character to look at and amazing visuals ❤❤❤❤❤
Awesome editing at 1:12
>Yun: "GENEI JIN"
>Me, a Alex Main
Aw shit, here we go again
Yun is one of the most fun characters to use. I think he should be a mainstay in the series at this stage.
Advanced tip: GJ stands for “Great job!”
Yun players are the dudes you either respect or utterly despise. And I am of the latter…
If you use him in fightcade, be prepared for your opponent to quit after you win 1 time
Didn't remember his theme sounding like the Bond theme.
Third Strike needs to be re-released, but not the Online Edition. We need a "Perfect Edition" that includes the gameplay balancing of Third Strike, with the ability to choose character specific storylines in Arcade mode and have ALL the stages from Second Impact and New Generation (some of those stages were creative and beautiful and im a sucker for them). Music too from the previous games included would be ace.
The only thing that sucks about FightCade is how you are locked to your opponent's character's stage all the time. Which is especially boring when the same characters pop up, so you're stuck with the same stages and music.
If there was this mythical "Perfect Edition" ever released, Capcom I would pay the full price day one.
Rollback too no duh.
3S should really have it's own franchise separate from SF
As a crap yun player I just wanted to highlight that the people making genie jin so good are the top players. To do these horrendously nasty combos (and getting meter back) takes extreme skill and knowledge per character like mentioned in the video. Also genie jin allows you cancel things that shouldn't really be cancelled, you can double kara moves and maybe even triple kara moves to do crazy shit. Example is the kara command throw (must be done super quick while in genie); Med punch~lk~zenpou+mk/hk grants you exceptional grab range. True kara palms needs a double cancel too. Mk launch into genie jin is cancelling mk into superjump into genie jin (pretty safe activation even if the mk is blocked) and I can't do this still. This method and the classic 1,2,3 punches into genie dont activate damage reduction properly so the damage output is crazy high, I dont think any other leading combos permit this low level damage reduction.
really wish we had an updated version of the game with a playable gill and an overall balance patch.
As a Makoto main, he's my worst fear. The dive kick pressure is very hard to deal with. Miss a parry and pay for it dearly : /
I'm waiting for Dudley 😎😎😎
123 GINEIIIII JIN!!!!
AAY AY AY AAY AYYYYYYE
Thank you for coming to my tutorial. 🙇♂️
Do you have a tutorial handy for adding the changed color schemes to stages in Fightcade?
shoutouts to Shodokan123
Can we get Yun and Yang in 6 tho?
1:11. What just happened here? The stage changed color? How can I do that? Never saw that before. Yun is a beast! And very fun to play too. Thanks!
palette mod, then run the same inputs through the game twice with different palettes and add a blend inbetween
hey @That Blasted Salami
yun know nuthin bout dat 😁
What did you mean at 1:51 by the combos “change from character to character”?
I think he meant that some combo's work on some characters, but on some characters the combo is escapable
Dudley for SF6
Curious what you will say about sean🤔
Yun is that guy you just don't mess with Yun players they a different breed of humans I tell ya.
Both twins are pretty strong🎮🕹😀👍🏾
An important note is genei jin is often used as a neutral tool. Meaning he’s actually more effectively used as a defensive character at top level than a rush down character because no one has the tools to approach him in genei jin and he out meter economy’s every character in the game having the shortest super in the game.
Super geeked for this project!
Already know it's going to be S Tier 3S content
v\/\/\/\_: GGs to Arya & Team B/S 🤜🤛🤝/\/\___
droppin another banger as per usual 🔥
Yun the GOAT 🐐 simple
Wondering why the Killer Instinct videos stopped.
Cuz 3s is the goat… imo
evo 2020 got canceled
LMAO, You're probably the first FGC content creator who pronounced Yun and Chun li's name correctly.
Wait a minute. You know something we don't know?
Bring jaime, please
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しっぽがある。かかって来いよ！
しっぽしっぽ
キュアユンプレシャス
ユンプレシャストライアングル
So, 3rd Strike boomers, how long I have to wait for Q and/or Alex in this series?
they should be out before April at this rate
SNAPTHECONDOMON
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Muh gay-engine
Ah it's the famous thief Yun and his partner in crime Genei Jin 😁
Yun definitely does not share the title of best character with Chun in 3rd Strike lol. Video is off to a great start.
Yup, they're not even really that close these days...
Thank u for speaking the truth
Also, he's very safe.
He always slaps the condom on.
The issue I have is opening people up after I activate Genie Jinn.
I wish they'd bring him back in 6 ffs. He was so fun in 4, thankfully missed out on shitty 5, but now it looks like he won't even be in 6 because Jamie is a mixture of him and Yang.