finally someone that actually does it correctly. You just about can not find anyone these days to confirm the squareness and levels and actually do it correctly. I wish i lived close enough i would pay you to sharpen my skates any day. Thanks for the vid
I find a lot of people that buy their own sharpeners and even many stores out there don't know how to sharpen skates. I give you props you learned the right way 2 tips before the final pass wissota and black stone sell a wax that you can apply to the blade before the final pass. It cools the blade down so it doesn't heat up and burn the bottom of the blade because you are going so slow. It also keeps the blade harder because it doesn't heat up as much so the blade will keep the edge longer. Second thing is the measuring tool you use it descent but I would recommend an h.d.i. (Hollow depth indicator) or a butterfly clamp. The butter fly clamp tells you when you have even edges and the HDI tell you when you have even edges and gives you how deep your cut is to make sure your dressing is proper. All in all great video!!! Everyone should watch this many people even pros could take some notes.
One can just take a light final cut for a good finish, some folks use Ivory soap on the blade for the last pass too. We used Ivory soap back in the 1980's on a Wissota at a rink in California . With rental's they are always getting messed up thus having a perfect final pass is less important. A last pass touchup of the grinding wheel helps too. With my Wissota a very light final pass seems to may a very fine finish, with no soap or wax. I often do not use any wax or soap like I once did. A Stainless blade loads the wheel up more than a carbon steel blade. The Pink Wissota is about the softess to use when you sharpen stainless blades. Most of us leave the same wheel on the machine and do not swap out wheels until then are worn out. Trashed carbon blades left to badly rust can require many many passes to clean up. The same goes with massive dents by folks walking on concrete. It is a judgment call on how good is good. I have sharpened skates and used wax and a light final pass and the end user walked them on the concrete the next day and goofed them all up.
3beltwesty I see makes sense. I would put much effort in with if I knew that was going to happen or it was for someone who doesn't play competitively. I sharpen for high level players so that's why I take my time and make every skate the exact same. Still great video
Thank you very much for the tips, I really appreciate that. The wax makes a lot of sense. I'm a full time knife maker and I use wax when sharpening my blades and I guess because I've never seen it done on skates I didn't think about it. I'm going to have to give that a try. And I'll certainly have to look into that HDI you mentioned. I always learn from the comments of the videos I put up and I really appreciate you sharing this with me. Cheers!
Thanks for the reply! The Wax that I got with my Wissota a few years ago is "Lube Wax Stick" , 2.5 oz multi -purpose lubricating wax. Says "reduces binding friction when drilling, grinding, band sawing, tapping. made by Formax. www.amazon.com/Grizzly-G4413-Lube-Wax-Stick/dp/B0000DD2JY Also some knife makers use old hockey skate blades for knives. In the text "Safety in Ice Hockey, Volume 1 By Cosmo R. Castaldi" page 128 Table 1 from 1989 gives SLM carbon steel 59 to 60 HRc, CCM 58 stainess steel 58 HRc, TuuK stainless steel 47 to 52 Rockewell hardness
I agree with Graham regarding the use of wax prior to the final pass. The wax he suggested will work just fine. Another suggestion would be Blademaster Gusto Glide. You can get Gusto Glide for about $15 and it'll last for quite a while. Everything in the video is spot on though. The witness marks are perfect and I like how you didn't take the skate out of the holder to check the edges. You're spot on with the number of passes being equal on both skates. One thing to mention would be to start with a skate that has the most trauma since it may require a couple additional passes, which you would then match on the other skate. Otherwise, this is a great, simple video with tons of great tips.
Thanks buddy for a great video from Australia the old guy that use to sharpen my skate’s died so I thought I’d buy my own so thanks again for the explanation of how to sharpen skate’s and how to set the machine up too
Nice! I never thought about getting my own sharpener. We have always taken ours to a guy that has a special radius (well I am told). Something I have skated on for years. If my daughter decides to play down the road, I might need to pick one of these bad boys up.
+Life in Farmland yeah it works pretty good. (I also use it for putting that profile on the spine of some of my knives. Makes for a great hard edge for sparking fero rods and making shavings:)
On my wissota I run 5 passes pull skate from holder and check edges with edge checker tool. Adjust front or back knobs if needed then do 4 more passes and repeat checking edges. If everything is perfect I use the wissota wax and do a final slow pass. Pull skate from holder clean the wax off and run a stone to remove burrs. Do one last edge check to see if it square and I am done. This whole process at most takes 5 mins per pair of skates.
could you use a dressing "button" to grind a flat bottom V profile on this machine? My son prefers it to the regular convex grind. Great video! I love sharpening blades of all sorts and this machine looks great!
Hey I'm also a goalie and I noticed that on the toe of your goalie skate you have something rigged up to make attaching it to the pads very easy. I just use the traditional skate laces and it's a pain in the ass. If you wouldn't mind either making a quick video describing it or just tell me in the comments that would be great! Great Videos!
Hey Nolan, yeah for sure I'll do a quick video on that. They make a world of difference. Since my so. Was 8 he been using them and it allows him to do up his pads himself. He loves them and so do we!
+Simple Little Life great thanks I can't wait! Also I've been trying to start making knives and plan to follow along with the 3 part beginner knife maker series that you are making. However I was considering buying one of your knives because I see you make great quality handmade knives. Ive seen some of the little knives modeled somewhat after the CRKT Minimalist. About how much would that cost with a kydex sheath included?
+Nolan Walker Hey Nolan, right now I'm uploading the video showing the toehook in a little more detail. Hope you enjoy it. Also, those toehooks are awesome and I couldn't recommend them enough. As for the little knife, the price for those right now are $80 with a kydex neck carry sheath plus shipping. Shipping is typically between $10-$20 to the US and Canada. Cheers!
By the small chance you read my comment. What are your thoughts on the Wissota sharpener. I worked at a pro shop for five years and I am shopping for my own sharpener. Stumbled onto this video.
I really really liked it. My kids are out of hockey now so we ended up selling it (had people fighting for it) but for the several years we used it I am very pleased. I would buy it again for sure. Cheers👍
I also worked at a skate rink that had a blademaster sharpener and I have a wissota at home and it’s a nice sharpener. The only thing I wish you could adjust is the speed of the wheel for when it gets ground down like blademasters.
I reshape the wheel to a wider radius (5/8” or 3/4”) and the actually raise the skate holder so it doesn’t sharpen two even edges on either side of the blade but makes a higher edge on the inside of the blade so you have more bite to push off with while down on the pads. I hope that makes sense. It is a noticeable difference (I do play net most of the time). Cheers 👍
I find now with hybrid style of goaltending you are pivoting more than a player. Yes, you can learn to work with the standard 29" profile. Me? I'm transitioning from player so there isn't a hope in hell of me doing that. But, I went to custom profile on my Trues. 13" to 29" rocker. It helps. I rather it. Goalie skate profiling is a vood that nobody seems to know except for the few. Goalies should be on their balls of their feet just like a player with an aggressive knee bend. If it is flat you have to be more leaned backwards. More unstable I find and more blade contact doesn't allow pivoting like a player. Have to use C-cuts. Screw that crap I'm not learning to skate all over again 🤣. Skate Doctor of Calgary AB is one of them after I found what I was looking for. I seem to have to learn myself. Boss of my workplace I just joined ask me to learn skate sharping as we are a goalie school and equipment shop with our own rink. Wants to bring the service in. I have to learn on the fly with my skates, I am going to have to expend the time and screw up until my screw-up start looking like work on my own skates so people will pay me because I spent the time screwing it up, till the point I got it right 😉. I have tradesmen/gearhead background and an autistic. I have a attention to detail due to it. Whoever did your sons skates is an idiot. You want about 30-40% of your balde at 13-15' and then 60-70% at stock 29" for pushing and blade contact still. You will have that balance point as a player but you still have a crap ton of Steel to use down in butterfly if you apply a rocker for a goalie. Unlike the numbnut that did your sons. Even then he shouldn't have touched the damn profile if that wasn't requested. Each goalie is unique, they have their own style you need to cater to them 🤦♂️. You can only give recommendations what you think would help them. But, at the end of the day. You have to make the customer happy. Hell. To me they are a comrade so am not messing with them. I take pride in my work because I'm a car, firearms, and goalie gearhead and I know what it's like to be screwed around with by those in the trades. I learn to do it myself because I got fed up of others screw ups and them not learning from them to fix it.
Totally agree. Please use safety glasses, and also don't wear a jacket with hanging strings near any sort of rotary equipment. It may be a 1 in a thousand chance that something will happen, but the outcome isn't worth the risk. Thanks for the video.
I know a way to keep hockey skates from ever needing sharpened....don't use them, I tried once I and I found out I was meant to walk on ice not skate on it.
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finally someone that actually does it correctly. You just about can not find anyone these days to confirm the squareness and levels and actually do it correctly. I wish i lived close enough i would pay you to sharpen my skates any day.
Thanks for the vid
I find a lot of people that buy their own sharpeners and even many stores out there don't know how to sharpen skates. I give you props you learned the right way 2 tips before the final pass wissota and black stone sell a wax that you can apply to the blade before the final pass. It cools the blade down so it doesn't heat up and burn the bottom of the blade because you are going so slow. It also keeps the blade harder because it doesn't heat up as much so the blade will keep the edge longer. Second thing is the measuring tool you use it descent but I would recommend an h.d.i. (Hollow depth indicator) or a butterfly clamp. The butter fly clamp tells you when you have even edges and the HDI tell you when you have even edges and gives you how deep your cut is to make sure your dressing is proper. All in all great video!!! Everyone should watch this many people even pros could take some notes.
One can just take a light final cut for a good finish, some folks use Ivory soap on the blade for the last pass too. We used Ivory soap back in the 1980's on a Wissota at a rink in California . With rental's they are always getting messed up thus having a perfect final pass is less important.
A last pass touchup of the grinding wheel helps too. With my Wissota a very light final pass seems to may a very fine finish, with no soap or wax. I often do not use any wax or soap like I once did.
A Stainless blade loads the wheel up more than a carbon steel blade. The Pink Wissota is about the softess to use when you sharpen stainless blades. Most of us leave the same wheel on the machine and do not swap out wheels until then are worn out.
Trashed carbon blades left to badly rust can require many many passes to clean up. The same goes with massive dents by folks walking on concrete. It is a judgment call on how good is good.
I have sharpened skates and used wax and a light final pass and the end user walked them on the concrete the next day and goofed them all up.
3beltwesty I see makes sense. I would put much effort in with if I knew that was going to happen or it was for someone who doesn't play competitively. I sharpen for high level players so that's why I take my time and make every skate the exact same. Still great video
Thank you very much for the tips, I really appreciate that. The wax makes a lot of sense. I'm a full time knife maker and I use wax when sharpening my blades and I guess because I've never seen it done on skates I didn't think about it. I'm going to have to give that a try. And I'll certainly have to look into that HDI you mentioned. I always learn from the comments of the videos I put up and I really appreciate you sharing this with me. Cheers!
Thanks for the reply! The Wax that I got with my Wissota a few years ago is "Lube Wax Stick" , 2.5 oz multi -purpose lubricating wax. Says "reduces binding friction when drilling, grinding, band sawing, tapping.
made by Formax. www.amazon.com/Grizzly-G4413-Lube-Wax-Stick/dp/B0000DD2JY
Also some knife makers use old hockey skate blades for knives. In the text "Safety in Ice Hockey, Volume 1
By Cosmo R. Castaldi" page 128 Table 1 from 1989 gives SLM carbon steel 59 to 60 HRc, CCM 58 stainess steel 58 HRc, TuuK stainless steel 47 to 52 Rockewell hardness
I agree with Graham regarding the use of wax prior to the final pass. The wax he suggested will work just fine. Another suggestion would be Blademaster Gusto Glide. You can get Gusto Glide for about $15 and it'll last for quite a while. Everything in the video is spot on though. The witness marks are perfect and I like how you didn't take the skate out of the holder to check the edges. You're spot on with the number of passes being equal on both skates. One thing to mention would be to start with a skate that has the most trauma since it may require a couple additional passes, which you would then match on the other skate. Otherwise, this is a great, simple video with tons of great tips.
Thanks buddy for a great video from Australia the old guy that use to sharpen my skate’s died so I thought I’d buy my own so thanks again for the explanation of how to sharpen skate’s and how to set the machine up too
Awesome video, thinking about picking up a wissota and think this video pushed me over the edge.
Excellent idea. I just ordered this sharpener today. This will help a lot
Nice! I never thought about getting my own sharpener. We have always taken ours to a guy that has a special radius (well I am told). Something I have skated on for years. If my daughter decides to play down the road, I might need to pick one of these bad boys up.
+Life in Farmland yeah it works pretty good. (I also use it for putting that profile on the spine of some of my knives. Makes for a great hard edge for sparking fero rods and making shavings:)
I really appreciate this video! Thank you.
On my wissota I run 5 passes pull skate from holder and check edges with edge checker tool. Adjust front or back knobs if needed then do 4 more passes and repeat checking edges. If everything is perfect I use the wissota wax and do a final slow pass. Pull skate from holder clean the wax off and run a stone to remove burrs. Do one last edge check to see if it square and I am done. This whole process at most takes 5 mins per pair of skates.
could you use a dressing "button" to grind a flat bottom V profile on this machine? My son prefers it to the regular convex grind. Great video! I love sharpening blades of all sorts and this machine looks great!
Thank you so much for this!
Great video. I swear wissota recommends grinding against the wheel up until the last pass, where your finish technique is spot on. Any thoughts?
Oil and then a final slow grind/polish.
How do you know you do not need to raise or lower the skate instead of the tilt if it’s grinding to one side ?
Hey I'm also a goalie and I noticed that on the toe of your goalie skate you have something rigged up to make attaching it to the pads very easy. I just use the traditional skate laces and it's a pain in the ass. If you wouldn't mind either making a quick video describing it or just tell me in the comments that would be great! Great Videos!
Hey Nolan, yeah for sure I'll do a quick video on that. They make a world of difference. Since my so. Was 8 he been using them and it allows him to do up his pads himself. He loves them and so do we!
+Simple Little Life great thanks I can't wait! Also I've been trying to start making knives and plan to follow along with the 3 part beginner knife maker series that you are making. However I was considering buying one of your knives because I see you make great quality handmade knives. Ive seen some of the little knives modeled somewhat after the CRKT Minimalist. About how much would that cost with a kydex sheath included?
+Nolan Walker Hey Nolan, right now I'm uploading the video showing the toehook in a little more detail. Hope you enjoy it. Also, those toehooks are awesome and I couldn't recommend them enough. As for the little knife, the price for those right now are $80 with a kydex neck carry sheath plus shipping. Shipping is typically between $10-$20 to the US and Canada. Cheers!
By the small chance you read my comment. What are your thoughts on the Wissota sharpener. I worked at a pro shop for five years and I am shopping for my own sharpener. Stumbled onto this video.
I really really liked it. My kids are out of hockey now so we ended up selling it (had people fighting for it) but for the several years we used it I am very pleased. I would buy it again for sure. Cheers👍
@@Simplelittlelife Thanks so much for the reply.
I also worked at a skate rink that had a blademaster sharpener and I have a wissota at home and it’s a nice sharpener. The only thing I wish you could adjust is the speed of the wheel for when it gets ground down like blademasters.
Thank you, helpful
Glad it was helpful!
how long do the grinding wheels last? I live in a family of 11 and majority either play hockey or figure skate
How do you sharpen goalie skates with that sharpener?
I reshape the wheel to a wider radius (5/8” or 3/4”) and the actually raise the skate holder so it doesn’t sharpen two even edges on either side of the blade but makes a higher edge on the inside of the blade so you have more bite to push off with while down on the pads. I hope that makes sense. It is a noticeable difference (I do play net most of the time). Cheers 👍
I find now with hybrid style of goaltending you are pivoting more than a player. Yes, you can learn to work with the standard 29" profile. Me? I'm transitioning from player so there isn't a hope in hell of me doing that.
But, I went to custom profile on my Trues. 13" to 29" rocker. It helps. I rather it. Goalie skate profiling is a vood that nobody seems to know except for the few. Goalies should be on their balls of their feet just like a player with an aggressive knee bend. If it is flat you have to be more leaned backwards. More unstable I find and more blade contact doesn't allow pivoting like a player. Have to use C-cuts. Screw that crap I'm not learning to skate all over again 🤣.
Skate Doctor of Calgary AB is one of them after I found what I was looking for.
I seem to have to learn myself. Boss of my workplace I just joined ask me to learn skate sharping as we are a goalie school and equipment shop with our own rink. Wants to bring the service in. I have to learn on the fly with my skates, I am going to have to expend the time and screw up until my screw-up start looking like work on my own skates so people will pay me because I spent the time screwing it up, till the point I got it right 😉. I have tradesmen/gearhead background and an autistic. I have a attention to detail due to it. Whoever did your sons skates is an idiot.
You want about 30-40% of your balde at 13-15' and then 60-70% at stock 29" for pushing and blade contact still. You will have that balance point as a player but you still have a crap ton of Steel to use down in butterfly if you apply a rocker for a goalie. Unlike the numbnut that did your sons.
Even then he shouldn't have touched the damn profile if that wasn't requested. Each goalie is unique, they have their own style you need to cater to them 🤦♂️. You can only give recommendations what you think would help them. But, at the end of the day. You have to make the customer happy. Hell. To me they are a comrade so am not messing with them. I take pride in my work because I'm a car, firearms, and goalie gearhead and I know what it's like to be screwed around with by those in the trades. I learn to do it myself because I got fed up of others screw ups and them not learning from them to fix it.
I don't think you need to dress the wheel as much as what you are doing, once at the beginning should suffice?
I have found in using it that I actually do need to dress it that often to get good results.
radius and rockered?
Sure
I live in minnasota
Right on! I listen to MPR's The Current every day👍
Can you set it up for the grinding wheel to rotate the other so you can sharpen from right to left
I’m not sure, never tried it.
I don’t suppose anyone knows of a similar sharpener in Western Europe?
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Totally agree. Please use safety glasses, and also don't wear a jacket with hanging strings near any sort of rotary equipment. It may be a 1 in a thousand chance that something will happen, but the outcome isn't worth the risk. Thanks for the video.
I know a way to keep hockey skates from ever needing sharpened....don't use them, I tried once I and I found out I was meant to walk on ice not skate on it.
+Joseph Rector hahaha! Yeah, I guess that would keep you from ever needing to sharpen them. But, you'd miss out on the fun of hockey! Cheers.
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