I'm 5'10" 190lbs with a very low and long stride. I went with Quad Zero (minor forward pitch) 5/8 hollow on my Bladetech Diamond DLC blades. It's the perfect marriage of bite and glide. Also the DLC steel is such high quality I'm only sharpening blades every 6-8 skates where I was sharpening my old steel every 2-3.
I vary between 1" and 7/8" depending on ice harness where I'm playing. I'm on a 13' radius with a forward pitch. 6 foot and 220 lbs. True SVH custom. I have tried many different profiles, hollows, skates and steel types. I sharpen my own skates in the shop I work at. Our house cut is 5/8" but I tell people to choose what they want and explain what to feel for. It takes seconds to dress the wheel. Thanks for doing these videos. It helps me find better ways to explain these things to customers. I work in a shop because I love the game. I'm always asking players what they're trying to do on the ice, their style and what they want to do. Then I give them info to help them fit into the right products, hollows and such. You guys have made that much easier and better for us.
Why don't you read the blade? The most people can't choose! It's your job to read the blade, where is it round used... I was 11 when I sharped the Pro Team Blades firstly.
What would be helpful is a video which goes more in depth on matching profile to style. We hear a lot of "this one works for my style of play" but nothing on what that style actually is, or what other styles the other profiles work better for.
@@Tyork42 @Dman 666 I am not so certain that's true. Each profile gives/enhances something about the skating stride. For example, one will give you more power in your stride (due to more contact) while another will give you more agility. Someone looking for more power in their stride would be more interested in the first one. Whether they then liked it or not would be down to their preference. But, it would be nice to have something better than "Profile X suits my style more than Profile Y" ... when we don't even know what "style" that person even has. It's not very helpful.
6'2" 230lbs. About 8 months ago switched to a StepSteel Quad profile with 3/4 hollow. Came from 5/8 and no profile. I love the switch. I have the same grip when turning but can feel less bite when going north/south. Bauer Supreme skates.
When I was a teenager I played with something like. 3/8” 5/16”. I always loved “sharp” skates. Never liked glide in my skates. As I got older, heavier and out of shape I changed things. I’m 190 lbs I use a 1/2” now for awhile now. I profiled my skates this year to a 9/10. Definitely felt the difference, and it gave some tighter turning.
5’6”, 64kg/140lb started out playing/learning a couple years ago with a 1/2” hollow but couldn’t figure out how to feel my edges, changed to a 7/16” hollow and loved it, just felt a little slower, just got my spare runners sharpened to 1/2” so we’ll see how they feel since finding my edges.
@@Shortfuse39 i use 7/16 and i couldn’t handle 3/8 at all when i was stopping i was jumping up and down thats how sharp it was since then i always stayed with 7/16 im still wondering how the difference is so big since on paper its not that big of a difference
Oh my god, I always felt like my blade was like a rocking chair and thanks to you I found out the contact surface is only 2”. I just started playing again and was hesitant to get them sharpened because I thought for the beginning it’s better to have “dull” blades because they are more forgiving. I’m definitely getting a new profile and sharpening before the next practice!
Ive been telling people to do this for years! I'm 6'2 and weigh about 13st. Used a zetterburg profile on a 18mm hollow for years. Switched to a 14ft profile on a 5/8 hollow. Now use the Bauer Quad profile with a 1 inch hollow. Contemplating a Detroit profile next, possibly going shallower in hollow again until I start losing edges in turns.
I use a 9ft profile with a forward tilt and a 7/16 sharpen I'm 6" 200lb and I shattered both feet and have 26 pins and 3 plates in each foot the Dr. Actually said I'd never walk again I was back on the ice after a year
I've come to the conclusion after testing many profiles and hollow depths, is to use what feels best for you and your game. I've settled on the 1/2 sharpening with a 9 foot profile. Feel like it gives me the best of all worlds. Good acceleration, good bite. But find what works best for you. The climate and quality of ice you are skating on becomes a factor as well. Warm/soft ice I might bump down to a 5/8. But usually stick with the 1/2.
Playing up in Montréal, Québec, Canada with really low temperatures (up to -35°C) that make real hard ice outside as well as inside and being a young Big guy (6'4" 250lbs) i've always went with the 3/8". I really like the bit and it glides more than enough.
I am 195lbs, 5’8” and 51 years old. I play defence and use a Cag One 30/55 with a 3/4” ROH. Suggested by the Tydan Blades assessment tool when I last bought new DLC steel from them. Took about three skates to get used to the new ROH and then felt great. I was switching from 5/8.
114lbs, 5'6" using the Zuperior S With a 0.5 forward pitch with a 5/8 hollow as I play heel heavy, so doing this I am far to confident, that I'm doing single foot stops, a week after learning how to stop... So confidence is insane for me
Thanks for the breakdown @HockeyTutorial! As a Figure Skating Professional that now teaches Power and Edge Classes to Hockey players this makes a lot of sense to me as this is how figure skating blades are built. A tighter radius at the nose of the blade will help you turn (or in our case spin) faster. Normally our blades only have 2-3 radius numbers, so having more is intriguing...
Anyone new to profiles or new skates after many years this may help you out..........I'm just over a month into new supreme skates after about 22 years with my old Vapor XX. Its been quite an experience as well as very frustrating. I had no idea about profiles since I was on such old skates, always just had them sharpened. They let me walk out of the store with NO profiling done (which is recommended as the factory blades can be way off, which once i went back in guy said up to 30%....WTF). I skated on that and it was a horrible experience could not skate. Then I went 10ft bauer stock, better but couldn't turn or do anything explosive. then I went 9ft, better could turn but still didnt not feel stable and things just felt off (my old vapor XX would of been 9ft stock, but they probably have 3-4 different flat spots it will sit on now so I've been skating on Frankenstein profile for years lol). Then I decided to try one for the new prosharp profiles, was gong to do quad but i decided just to try ellipse since it was to be an enhanced quad with kinda combo agility and power with more seamless transition. WHAT A DIFFERENCE. I am just amazed how all these different profiles feel its crazy coming from just always getting a sharpen. However while ellipse zero is night and day better and i can actually do things i want to do, my problems was it was all good in warm up or rec skate. the minute it was go time and i had to be explosive or had to put 100% in , i just couldn't do what I wanted and also just felt off. So, i decided to do what Bauer recommends and I re-profiled and stayed with Ellipse, but I went one level DOWN from ellipse zero to ellipse XS. I played on them last night and I couldn't believe the difference just from going one size down, SAME profile. Other then feeling way better and being able to play in a game situation, I know it way better because I was doing things WITHOUT THINKING about it. When things feel off my brain is noticing all the differences and I am thinking about this movement or that movement and this feels weird or I can't move this way or that and in the moment its very frustrating to deal with. I have probably went from feeling 65-70% to 80--85% just with the sizing change. The other thing i am surprised about is how my legs feel. I am going to have to go to hollows i have never tried, i notice after going end to end a few times i feel like im on an exercise bike cranked up with high resistance. i've probably always been 1/2 but i have never felt such a quick burn even on my old skates. I will be trying 5/8 next as i can tell i am biting hard and digging in. Now that I can kinda do most of what I used to, now I am REALLY noticing the difference in the skates with the STIFFNESS. its a whole new world coming from old skates. Figuring out how to get them really snug without foot pain has been hard so im either too tight or too loose. I think I may need to get them stretched or punched in a couple spots, but i also need to wear 2 pairs of socks for the first time (i went down another half size on these skates, 2 sizes down from shoe size total) so I am worried if I do there will be more play of my foot which is no good.
I am using a Zuperior M profile with a 11/16" hollow. I am 6' and weigh 250lb (113 kg). I have Bladetech steel. I like the shallow hollow because at my weight, I press into the ice more than lighter players, so this gives me speed without drag and still presents enough of an edge for tight turns. I find the Zuperior M profile gives me more acceleration and agility than I had with a standard profile (which I used a 5/8" hollow on the standard profile). I was dubious when Bladetech suggested I get the Zuperior M with one step less hollow than I normally have (moving from 5/8" to 11/16") ... but I have more grip with 11/16 on the Zups than I did with the standard profile at 5/8.
My son and I both use a 9 foot rocker with 3/8 inch radius. I’m 42 and he is 14. Mine is centered while his is +3mm forward of center to introduce more knee bend to counter balance the center of gravity. The “forward pitch” of his forces him to bend his knees to maintain balance. We both have them done professionally by a skating instructor who owns his own school and has a rink at his home. The 9 foot rocker allows more maneuverability while the 3/8” radius balances out the lack of blade contact and allows the bite needed to transition and gives the “bite” we love.
I dont know if I could talk so confidently and knowledge-ably about any topic. Plus its very clear to follow, even for someone like me who got this video recommended out of nowhere
I’ll vouch for bladetech. Jeff was awesome and helped me select the right blade profile.I had a quad one. I’m still novice in my game playing so my feedback will be different than someone that has played for years and who’s skill is much better. I’ve since picked up new skates and my blade size changed. 280 to 272. I’m running a standard 10 radius. As for hollows I’ve watched yours and others videos and read enough up on it. I use 5/8 mainly in the summer months. The ice is softer due to the heat. Come fall winter I’ll bounce back and forth between 9/16-1/2. Depending on the ice we are skating on but 9/16 is my go to cut. I’ve seen most stores and pro shops do a 1/2 inch as the standard if you don’t ask for a different size here in the States. Good work and keep it up 👍🏻
I use stock bauer radius with a neutral rocker and a 5/8" hollow. I'm 6'3 about 205 lb. Sometimes I use 9/16 instead depending on the season. I live in Maryland, so sometimes the ice is a little soft in the summer.
I did the BladeTech assessment and had the Quad Zero's recommended to me (two-way center, agility oriented, smaller/lighter body). I liked that BladeTech not only had the profile assessment, but could ship them right to my door, and I even upgraded to the DLC coating. Wow. It took me a couple games to get used to them, but it was clearly a night and day difference over my previous runners that were never profiled and had been sharpened down to the minimum. I was already the best skater on the team, and guys were noticing that I was even zippier and was starting to really use my skating ability. Cross-overs felt sluggish on my old runners, but with the profiled runners they feel like I'm 20 years younger again. I had also been unable to use a shallower hollow on the old steel, stuck at 1/2", but with the profile on the fresh runners, I tried 9/16" right out of the gate and it felt like I had MORE grip on the ice. Oh, and I haven't had them sharpened yet after six games, still no bad edges with the DLC. Thanks @HockeyTutorialOfficial for all the content covering profiling and BladeTech, it's really helped me have more fun the past couple months. I sent this video along to a couple team mates that asked for advice on their own edges after our last game!
Excellent & informative video. Thanks. Finally profiling is becoming a consistently good product. Old school, one needed a wizard doing it all by candle light…. Now a machine can do it pretty much perfect. Im going to finally go for it -thx! Regarding edges, You are spot on-Far too many skate rinks just give you what they know. Ive even had to notify a prep school because they told my son he wouldn’t notice the difference (cushing prep academy in Massachusetts).!! I had to explain (although I shouldn’t have too) just what you spoke of. We live in Phoenix Arizona & the ice in summer gets incredibly soft. Horrible actually in the older barns..Im about 190lbs & use a 1” because its so soft. My son needed to make his choice based on how HIS edges felt. Not what the lazy skate person puts on it…Its crazy to discuss edges & they are way to deep and the players too heavy on such soft ice. Far too many never bother to check and remember many of the fundamental things you’ve mentioned. Their skating could be so much easier if they paid attention to what you state. Major kudos!
I'm in Toronto, which is hockey crazy central of the entire world, and it's remarkable the difference of opinion I get from "experts" at various shops. Just when you think you've got it figured out somebody throws you a winger.
Our daughter has been playing hockey for more than eight years now (having started at the age of six). She changed to 7/8" on advice of her coach about three season ago and is absolutely happy with it. It matches her edge control ability perfectly and gives her a good glide. While I'm sharpening the skates myself with a Sparx machine unfortunately our local hockey shop doesn't offer profiling but we keep looking for that.
6’2” 230 lbs, and mine has always been 5/8”. Had to get my new Bauer Mach skates profiled more forward. They even told me it would feel more back leaning, but try it for a couple skates and come back and change it if I needed. Definitely needed it.
I’m 55. 240 lbs. played 30 years on D. Was recently asked to play Center For years I used a 3/8” hollow but have since switched up to 3/4” hollow to have better glide. I switch throughout the summer decreasing the hollow as my skate guy told me if I went straight to the 3/4 that I would find it too much of a change. I also a few years ago switched my blades out and got a set of Tydan blades here in Dundas,on. They do a lot of pro blades. Check them out. I also went with a 11 foot radius. It has really helped my overall skating and fatigue level being a big guy 6’4”. Love your reviews
6’ 225 lbs. When I first started skating, I skated 3/8. As time when on I switched to larger hollow. I skate 3/4 now and a quad profile. Quad zero usually but whatever quad profile I can get done. Almost all pros skate 3/4. The better skater you become the larger hollow you should be skating. The only downside to the larger hollow is sometimes it takes a bit to get into your edges. The better skater you become, the less of a problem it is. I have zero problem getting in my edges at 3/4. The opposite is true with tendies, as tendies get better they usually transition to sharper hollows.
1/2 to 3/8. Depending on if we were going to get ice cleaned between periods. If not, 3/8 to help cut through the ice when it’s all beat up. I played D and needed my edges for pivots and stops and starts.
I just learned about this yesterday, when i took my 5yo’s skates into a different shop bc i knew something was wrong. He went from amazing control and speed to slipping all over the place …. Would you be willing to give advice for younger skaters? I can only explain what i see as a mum, as my little guy is too young to express exactly what is going on. We got a fire-sharpen … thank you.
I assume fire-sharpen is the Sparx Fire sharpen which is a way of getting around the copyright of the FBV (Flat Bottom Vee). This type of sharpening gets damaged or wears out quickly. He probably just needed a new sharpening. According to local experts here in Toronto the FBV or Fire has gone out of style. They'd just recommend a larger diameter hollow if you want that effect. I'm told NHL players use 1" hollow. It makes them much faster but they have to have stronger ankles and skating skills. Run your fingers over the sharp edge cross ways when they've just been sharpened so you can check them out at any time later to see how badly they need to be sharpened.
80 kg (177 lbs), 18mm (approx. 3/4") ROH. One radius profile (9 feet) -- moved from a standard 10 feet for maneuverability. LS3 steel. First generation CCM JetSpeed with Tuuk holder (272mm).
6ft 210, im a fast skater , use cross overs to increase speed, quick starts and stops and sharp turns, i juggle between 3/8 and less grips, but im not sure what i need 3/8 feels really sharp , but if i use any less i start slipping and falling on sharp turns or trying to increase speed wirh cross overs
Man I wish I realized long ago there were different grinds and profiles. I was always a light weak skater and started with probably a 13/⅝ radius, it served me well. Then got a random radius and smaller profile and never skated right again.
Im convinced most people especially inexperienced people get skates much too sharp for their needs and far too often. The only thing that you really need a sharpening for are nicks and flat spots. The steel these days is so good it can stay sharp enough a really really long time. Skate guards are very important in preventing damage off the ice in my opinion. I ref and play and probably average on the ice at least 3 hrs a week and Im a very fast skater. 5’8 175. I havent had my skates sharpened in like a year. I typically ask for like a 5/8 as I like some glide because I play defense and ref and Im on the ice a lot and fatigues my legs less. They definitely could use a sharpening but I have the rocket runners and its a pain at my local shop. Im probably going to start using the scalloped runners i got with a different pair soon, but I do love the rocket runners.
I’m a smaller guy at 5’8 140lbs. I’m in Georgia where it’s over 90 degrees everyday so the ice is definitely softer. I’ve been skating on a 1/2’ hollow for a while, but I just ordered the Black Diamond DLC runners from BladeTech with a 5/8 sharpen. Trying something new. Haven’t ventured out and gotten profiled yet.
How did the 5/8 hollow turn out for you? I am a similar height/weight and was stuck at 1/2 on my old steel. I went with a Quad Zero profile with the DLC and 9/16 and it was actually GRIPPIER for me. I'm curious if I should go further to 9/16 next. I'm on some reasonably hard ice in Colorado.
@@WillKlein I love it. I was nervous at first and didn’t know if I’d still have the same amount of control on my edges. I was pretty surprised because I didn’t really notice the loss of bite/grip with my edges, but I was definitely gliding a lot more effortlessly. It was extremely noticeable right away. I’m actually thinking about going more dull now after 4 months. I might go 3/4 soon just to experiment. I haven’t gotten into profiling just yet though.
My son is 12yo and 110lbs (50kg). He has Quad profile or Detroit 1. I sharpen his skates to 7/8”. But next season we will try 1”. In Sweden its very common to use between 3/4” and 1-1/18” My daughter is 7yo 65lbs, has ”foppa” profile and sharpened to 3/4”
I’m 5’9 190 lbs.. I’ve been using a 1/2 for as long as I can remember. I have tired 3/8 & 5/8 but just didn’t like them as much as a 1/2.. which gives you the best of both worlds- grip + speed. I play on average 2 hours per week. I’m just confused as to what Profiling I should get for my steel… I’ve never had them profiled before in my 23+ years of playing hockey. I am one of the quicker guys in the ice and I have a great 1st/2nd powerful stride that helps me beat others in tight spots. I feel as if I’m a more athletic forward leaning skater than most. .. soo maybe a forward tilt profile ??? I’m unsure , I don’t want it to be too drastic to where it messes up my stride but also am curious to see if this would help make me a better more complete skater.? FYI- I grew up playing street/roller hockey my entire life. 2-3x as much as ice just because of the accessibility and cost growing up. So not sure if me being a roller guy changes my stride and I should get a certain profile based on that.
Im 6' 2" 150lbs. I played in the military and in college D3, I play Defense with a neutral pitch and a 7 or 9 ft profile with a 7/16th hollow depending on the quality of the ice. On my goalie skates i have an 11ft profile, neutral pitch, and a 5/8ths hollow. Ive been experimenting with the flat bottom V sharpenings but i havent settled on one i love yet.
I wish Bladetech would allow you the option to rent blades in the profiles they offer. Then you could try them all out on the ice and purchase the right profile for you. It would be too expensive to go through 4 sets of steel guessing what works best for you!
I'm a 5'10, 175 lbs offensive defensman and use a 9/16 ROH with a 10' profile with a very mild forward pitch. Gives me the perfect balance of bite and acceleration without sacrificing agility
Love all your videos. I skate both hockey and long track speed skates. Speed skates have no hollow. I am used to that, so my hockey skates have a 3/4" hollow for indoor rinks. If I know I'll be going out on a lake or pond where the ice is hard, I'll have the skates sharpened to a 1/2" hollow. The hockey skates have an 11" rocker. I am 175lb.
As a 11 year old kid who plays in one of the best leagues in North America for youth hockey the HPL. I’ve been told by many NHL players I should use a 3/8 because as I’m under 150lbs it doesn’t matter because I’m not heavy enough to get lots of dig in the ice. Also I personally use hollow v profile it makes the blade flatter making it feel like a 1/2 but I have more bite
After reading the comments I must share...I was 8, got a a used pair of skates. My dad decided to put a nice grind on my blades and used an angle grinder and turned them into a hatchet bevel. In short I had a hard time standing up
6'0" 150 lbs, 5/8 flat bottom V, standard step blacksteel profile, absolutely love it but am seriously considering getting the bladetechs and getting them profiled
Been in BladeTech for a couple years. It’s superior to step steel BlackSteel if you get the DLC version. The metal quality is better and the edge lasts longer. The steel costs the same too. Just a thought.
@@mongillohockey thank you, thats been one of my concerns is the steel quality compared to step black, I think you've just convinced me to make the switch
@@yeetuspeetus6598 Glad to help. I had to be convinced too! Lol. I happen to be into knives and am pretty familiar with steel types. Most runners are made with 400 series steel. BladeTech is a harder version of that. That’s why the sharpening lasts a bit longer. The DLC on the step and BladeTech seems to be the same high quality.
Great video, comprehensive explanations! Only comment is that the number of each section (pizza slice) refers to the circles RADIUS not the diameter or circumference. Well that and then that European players need to convert into meters instead of feet for the profile radia and millimeter for the depth of their hollow! Again really great video. And if your kid is starting to play 4-7 years old, I highly recommend that you are kind to them, go with the maximum radius profile (17” ft aka 5.18 m rather than the shorter out of the box 11-13” ft aka 3.35 - 3.96m single radius profile) and as sharp as possible to give them maximum grip and make those initial weeks enjoyable. I sharpened my kids and their team mates in Year one of Hockey School (4-5 years old) to 10 or 12 mm sharpness on our Prosharp AS2001. Once the kids are stable and glide properly, I decrease the hollow (essentially making them blunter but faster forward glide) up to 20 mm even if they only weight 20kgs. Then I start to profile shorter. Often directly to “Foppa” yes the 13” / 3.96m that Peter Forsberg played on which is then most common for the 7-10 years old kids, experimenting instead with less sharpness to help them with maximum speed forward or backwards, to the point that they nearly loose grip. For example my now 10 year old is 155 cm / 5.08 ft and weight 52 kg / 115 lb / 8.2 stone has testet up to 25 mm for his hollow, but is most confident at 22 mm on indoor rinks but needs 20 mm when we are on “winter ice” which is outdoor rinks and rinks in tents where the below zero C outdoor temperature leads to much harder ice. But at that point we started to try out Prosharp profiles and he has settled on they Zuperior S Profile for his 255 mm long blades in his CCM Ribcors. This is the first “new” skate he has because he now needs the stiffness and protection these skates offer as they have progressed and their wrist shots and clappers have become painful. Thank you for this super video and good luck finding your profile and sharpness. If you have zero idea where to start as an adult, go with single radius 13” / 3.96 meters and calculate a sharpness based on body weight / pi aka 89kg / 3.14 = ca 28 mm. Have fun
Hey Chris, you should do a piece on a system developed in Toronto,CA. It profiles and sharpens at the same time. It’s called Skatescribe. Uses CNC technology, fully computerized. Allows total flexibility for any profile you can think of.
I've always thought 5/8" is way too sharp for skaters? as a goalie i use 1/2" (or 12mm) as a skater i use a prosharp quad with 24-26mm hollow (a bit more than 1") i am 180cm 75kg. never had a slip out. had my skates sharpened by the guy at my sons team and he made them 20mm (because he didn't change from sharpening kids skates) and that was way too much bite. Felt like skating in mud
176cm (5"9) 90kg . Quad 0 profile. I use 9/16 in winter for harder ice and 5/8 in summer for softer ice on bauer 2s pros and bauer pulse ti blades. Love prosharp. Play defenseman.
Currently using a Quad II, since I wear a 10.5 skate, for the added stability and power with a 7/16" hollow (I'm 6'0.5" and 215 lbs). I mostly went with the deeper hollow since I've been learning to use my outside edge must more effectively and wanted a sharper skate to accent the edges. Once I get more comfortable with the outside edge, I will probably go back to a 5/8" to increase the glide and speed.
5'11" 165 lbs. can't skate with anything other than 3/8 and get them sharpened every 5 or 6 times on the ice. I love the bite and the ability to stop and start on a dime.
Profile has been around for a long time, but not a lot of shops acknowledge it when sharpening…. Maybe Sparx could do an update to accommodate profiles. Maybe you could do a calculator tool? Especially for ice conditions and player body type
my son is 11 he weighs 80 pounds give or take. because he is in youth sizing he cant take advantage of the new bauer sizing so he had to move up from vapour to supreme. on vapours he was on 7/16 or half inch and an 11 foot radius. the suopremes had a 13 foot radius. in the supremes with the flatter radius he could not hold an edge in tight turns. we tried different hollows but nothing helped. then we tried the zuperior profile . his skating and edge work instantly improved. he is now on 5/8 with the profiled blades
8-year hockey dad, 2-year adult beginner (40+ YO, 5' 6", 160 lb) I started out ignorant about hockey gear but love learning and improving. From the beginning, I presumed me and my skater (now bantam) would need to progress from Standard (commonly 1/2 hollow) upward towards the sharper 5/16 like a "pro" as we develop hockey experience. Boy was I wrong. I am now settling in at 9/16 for 14-YO and 5/8 for myself. Our Bauer Supreme and Vapor skates are the single profile (9 or 11 foot) from the factory. Profiling might be my next adventure.
I’m 6’6” 245lbs. I use the t blade system. I use the 288 M15. I prefer the consistency of the t blade system. Just order new blades, same cut, same sharpen every time.
6’1, 245 with my old reebok white k I used a 5/8 hollow for the longest time and loved it, got new Bauer supreme 3s skates and it didn’t quite feel right on this so I switched to 9/16, have never done profiling but did take some getting used to the profile that came on the new skates
I use a 35-50 cag one with sparx 3/4 flat bottom, I'm 5'10 and about 210lbs, works well for me. My CCMs as a kid always had a forward pitch and made me skate over my toes.
I'm 275 lbs and I use 1/2" on 3mm player skates and 9/16 on 4mm goalie skates. I have tried 5/8 on my player skates and it felt like I had no grip and hated it. Standard 10' Bauer profile though.
really good and interesting video, but I would also really like to see more stick reviews of different manufactures e.g. the new Sher-Wood or the Warrior Stick line. But also reviews to the new sticks from our big brands like CCM and Bauer.l
Peace brother I need help 😅🫡 hope you can give some advice. I am 6’6 and 290 lbs forward who likes to have quick edges and moving more agile with quick maneuvers. I know my weight is heavy 😂 I am trained and have big legs. My skates when borrowed from the rink often gets stucked in the ice and I feel the gliding isnt optimal or skates dont feel smooth when making hard transitions or changing directions and its frustrated. What would you recommend for profile? And blade sharpening for my size? Best regards 🫡🙏
@@jordanmullenhopkins I’m just getting into hockey and I’m 6’ 300lbs just trying to find a good set of skates for bigger guys with wider feet I wear size 13 in shoes
@@Jacob.91 I think your best bet would be an size 11 True skate either a TF9 or catalyst definately going to need a stiffer boot. Go to a store and try out different skates and see what you like. Best of luck man.
I run two different pro shops and I love helping people find their sharpen. No matter how experienced or new you are don't feel awkward asking your pro shop what cut they recommend. We sharpen hundreds if not thousands of skates, work with different players of different skills and builds and maybe even across multiple rinks or sheets of ice. We get good at knowing what ice our rink has, and what will probably work best for you.
@@HolyMountain1915 I see that a lot. Neither shop is big by any means, but we do very well because everyone is knowledgeable and good at what we do. We are located 5-10 minutes from a Pure Hockey and get tons of customers coming from there to us to get skates sharpened. It honestly blows my mind.
Standard 10' profile. 200 lbs: 7/8". 180lbs: 3/4" Fire. I tried 5/8" Fire and my knees wanted to cry. Tried Quad profile and I hated it. The extra blade contact makes the zone of centered edges feel way too small and I don't like the loss in agility. Really want to try 9' with a forward pitch. I'm guessing it'll feel like I need to flex my stiff ass Tacks less to accomplish similar results?
184cm, 157kg skating on 1/2” non profiled SS black steel. I have had a quad 2 profile before and found it made me lazier. I stopped cross over turns and glided more.
I am 5’3, 210 lbs, I’m a forward, and I just get mine sharpened because I have poor social skills so I just ask “Can I get these sharpened?” And nothing more plus don’t know which hollow I should be using. I have never tried profiling. I like my blades as is but my rink doesn’t maintain their floor well and I keep blowing my edges on exposed cement.
I'm 5'10" 190lbs with a very low and long stride. I went with Quad Zero (minor forward pitch) 5/8 hollow on my Bladetech Diamond DLC blades. It's the perfect marriage of bite and glide. Also the DLC steel is such high quality I'm only sharpening blades every 6-8 skates where I was sharpening my old steel every 2-3.
I vary between 1" and 7/8" depending on ice harness where I'm playing. I'm on a 13' radius with a forward pitch. 6 foot and 220 lbs. True SVH custom. I have tried many different profiles, hollows, skates and steel types. I sharpen my own skates in the shop I work at. Our house cut is 5/8" but I tell people to choose what they want and explain what to feel for. It takes seconds to dress the wheel.
Thanks for doing these videos. It helps me find better ways to explain these things to customers. I work in a shop because I love the game. I'm always asking players what they're trying to do on the ice, their style and what they want to do. Then I give them info to help them fit into the right products, hollows and such. You guys have made that much easier and better for us.
Why don't you read the blade? The most people can't choose! It's your job to read the blade, where is it round used... I was 11 when I sharped the Pro Team Blades firstly.
What would be helpful is a video which goes more in depth on matching profile to style. We hear a lot of "this one works for my style of play" but nothing on what that style actually is, or what other styles the other profiles work better for.
In my experience it is completely down to the player, you just have to try different profiles
That's a hard one because you could get s profile and not like only way to see if it suits you is to try it unfortunately
@@Tyork42 @Dman 666 I am not so certain that's true.
Each profile gives/enhances something about the skating stride. For example, one will give you more power in your stride (due to more contact) while another will give you more agility. Someone looking for more power in their stride would be more interested in the first one.
Whether they then liked it or not would be down to their preference. But, it would be nice to have something better than "Profile X suits my style more than Profile Y" ... when we don't even know what "style" that person even has. It's not very helpful.
6'2" 230lbs. About 8 months ago switched to a StepSteel Quad profile with 3/4 hollow. Came from 5/8 and no profile. I love the switch. I have the same grip when turning but can feel less bite when going north/south. Bauer Supreme skates.
I’m 6’1” and 145lbs
Which Quad profile? There are 4.
@@bunsw2070 I just followed the recommended quad profile based on skate size. In my case, Quad 2.
When I was a teenager I played with something like. 3/8” 5/16”. I always loved “sharp” skates. Never liked glide in my skates. As I got older, heavier and out of shape I changed things. I’m 190 lbs I use a 1/2” now for awhile now. I profiled my skates this year to a 9/10. Definitely felt the difference, and it gave some tighter turning.
5’6”, 64kg/140lb started out playing/learning a couple years ago with a 1/2” hollow but couldn’t figure out how to feel my edges, changed to a 7/16” hollow and loved it, just felt a little slower, just got my spare runners sharpened to 1/2” so we’ll see how they feel since finding my edges.
When I played, I was also 5'6" and 140, I used a 3/8" hollow in winter and a 1/2" in summer since the ice was "softer."
@@Shortfuse39 i use 7/16 and i couldn’t handle 3/8 at all when i was stopping i was jumping up and down thats how sharp it was since then i always stayed with 7/16 im still wondering how the difference is so big since on paper its not that big of a difference
Same height/weight here. Use from 20mm to 28 mm depending on the mood
Oh my god, I always felt like my blade was like a rocking chair and thanks to you I found out the contact surface is only 2”. I just started playing again and was hesitant to get them sharpened because I thought for the beginning it’s better to have “dull” blades because they are more forgiving. I’m definitely getting a new profile and sharpening before the next practice!
Ive been telling people to do this for years!
I'm 6'2 and weigh about 13st.
Used a zetterburg profile on a 18mm hollow for years. Switched to a 14ft profile on a 5/8 hollow.
Now use the Bauer Quad profile with a 1 inch hollow.
Contemplating a Detroit profile next, possibly going shallower in hollow again until I start losing edges in turns.
Profiling is a big deal. Glad you feel the same way :D
I use a 9ft profile with a forward tilt and a 7/16 sharpen I'm 6" 200lb and I shattered both feet and have 26 pins and 3 plates in each foot the Dr. Actually said I'd never walk again I was back on the ice after a year
🙄 that's insane. Glad to hear you're skating again !
Seems pretty stupid
Nah bro took I’ll do it myself to a whole new level
Thats the most hockey thing ive ever heard
I've come to the conclusion after testing many profiles and hollow depths, is to use what feels best for you and your game. I've settled on the 1/2 sharpening with a 9 foot profile. Feel like it gives me the best of all worlds. Good acceleration, good bite. But find what works best for you. The climate and quality of ice you are skating on becomes a factor as well. Warm/soft ice I might bump down to a 5/8. But usually stick with the 1/2.
Well said! couldn't agree more. Ice temp is a big deal that isn't always made clear. Thanks for watching.
Playing up in Montréal, Québec, Canada with really low temperatures (up to -35°C) that make real hard ice outside as well as inside and being a young Big guy (6'4" 250lbs) i've always went with the 3/8". I really like the bit and it glides more than enough.
I am 195lbs, 5’8” and 51 years old. I play defence and use a Cag One 30/55 with a 3/4” ROH. Suggested by the Tydan Blades assessment tool when I last bought new DLC steel from them. Took about three skates to get used to the new ROH and then felt great. I was switching from 5/8.
114lbs, 5'6" using the Zuperior S With a 0.5 forward pitch with a 5/8 hollow as I play heel heavy, so doing this I am far to confident, that I'm doing single foot stops, a week after learning how to stop... So confidence is insane for me
Thanks for the breakdown @HockeyTutorial! As a Figure Skating Professional that now teaches Power and Edge Classes to Hockey players this makes a lot of sense to me as this is how figure skating blades are built. A tighter radius at the nose of the blade will help you turn (or in our case spin) faster. Normally our blades only have 2-3 radius numbers, so having more is intriguing...
Anyone new to profiles or new skates after many years this may help you out..........I'm just over a month into new supreme skates after about 22 years with my old Vapor XX. Its been quite an experience as well as very frustrating. I had no idea about profiles since I was on such old skates, always just had them sharpened. They let me walk out of the store with NO profiling done (which is recommended as the factory blades can be way off, which once i went back in guy said up to 30%....WTF). I skated on that and it was a horrible experience could not skate. Then I went 10ft bauer stock, better but couldn't turn or do anything explosive. then I went 9ft, better could turn but still didnt not feel stable and things just felt off (my old vapor XX would of been 9ft stock, but they probably have 3-4 different flat spots it will sit on now so I've been skating on Frankenstein profile for years lol). Then I decided to try one for the new prosharp profiles, was gong to do quad but i decided just to try ellipse since it was to be an enhanced quad with kinda combo agility and power with more seamless transition. WHAT A DIFFERENCE. I am just amazed how all these different profiles feel its crazy coming from just always getting a sharpen. However while ellipse zero is night and day better and i can actually do things i want to do, my problems was it was all good in warm up or rec skate. the minute it was go time and i had to be explosive or had to put 100% in , i just couldn't do what I wanted and also just felt off. So, i decided to do what Bauer recommends and I re-profiled and stayed with Ellipse, but I went one level DOWN from ellipse zero to ellipse XS. I played on them last night and I couldn't believe the difference just from going one size down, SAME profile. Other then feeling way better and being able to play in a game situation, I know it way better because I was doing things WITHOUT THINKING about it. When things feel off my brain is noticing all the differences and I am thinking about this movement or that movement and this feels weird or I can't move this way or that and in the moment its very frustrating to deal with. I have probably went from feeling 65-70% to 80--85% just with the sizing change. The other thing i am surprised about is how my legs feel. I am going to have to go to hollows i have never tried, i notice after going end to end a few times i feel like im on an exercise bike cranked up with high resistance. i've probably always been 1/2 but i have never felt such a quick burn even on my old skates. I will be trying 5/8 next as i can tell i am biting hard and digging in. Now that I can kinda do most of what I used to, now I am REALLY noticing the difference in the skates with the STIFFNESS. its a whole new world coming from old skates. Figuring out how to get them really snug without foot pain has been hard so im either too tight or too loose. I think I may need to get them stretched or punched in a couple spots, but i also need to wear 2 pairs of socks for the first time (i went down another half size on these skates, 2 sizes down from shoe size total) so I am worried if I do there will be more play of my foot which is no good.
I am using a Zuperior M profile with a 11/16" hollow. I am 6' and weigh 250lb (113 kg). I have Bladetech steel. I like the shallow hollow because at my weight, I press into the ice more than lighter players, so this gives me speed without drag and still presents enough of an edge for tight turns. I find the Zuperior M profile gives me more acceleration and agility than I had with a standard profile (which I used a 5/8" hollow on the standard profile).
I was dubious when Bladetech suggested I get the Zuperior M with one step less hollow than I normally have (moving from 5/8" to 11/16") ... but I have more grip with 11/16 on the Zups than I did with the standard profile at 5/8.
My son and I both use a 9 foot rocker with 3/8 inch radius. I’m 42 and he is 14. Mine is centered while his is +3mm forward of center to introduce more knee bend to counter balance the center of gravity. The “forward pitch” of his forces him to bend his knees to maintain balance. We both have them done professionally by a skating instructor who owns his own school and has a rink at his home. The 9 foot rocker allows more maneuverability while the 3/8” radius balances out the lack of blade contact and allows the bite needed to transition and gives the “bite” we love.
I'm a goalie 6ft 240lb. I tried a goalie Sam profile with bladetechs with a 9/16 hollow. Found I like a 3/8 without profile better.
I dont know if I could talk so confidently and knowledge-ably about any topic. Plus its very clear to follow, even for someone like me who got this video recommended out of nowhere
Thank you. I really appreciate that.
I use 5/8 its allowed me to learn how to stop on my outside edge. Haven't gotten them profiled but I want to.
I’ll vouch for bladetech. Jeff was awesome and helped me select the right blade profile.I had a quad one. I’m still novice in my game playing so my feedback will be different than someone that has played for years and who’s skill is much better. I’ve since picked up new skates and my blade size changed. 280 to 272. I’m running a standard 10 radius. As for hollows I’ve watched yours and others videos and read enough up on it. I use 5/8 mainly in the summer months. The ice is softer due to the heat. Come fall winter I’ll bounce back and forth between 9/16-1/2. Depending on the ice we are skating on but 9/16 is my go to cut.
I’ve seen most stores and pro shops do a 1/2 inch as the standard if you don’t ask for a different size here in the States.
Good work and keep it up 👍🏻
I use stock bauer radius with a neutral rocker and a 5/8" hollow. I'm 6'3 about 205 lb. Sometimes I use 9/16 instead depending on the season. I live in Maryland, so sometimes the ice is a little soft in the summer.
I did the BladeTech assessment and had the Quad Zero's recommended to me (two-way center, agility oriented, smaller/lighter body). I liked that BladeTech not only had the profile assessment, but could ship them right to my door, and I even upgraded to the DLC coating. Wow. It took me a couple games to get used to them, but it was clearly a night and day difference over my previous runners that were never profiled and had been sharpened down to the minimum. I was already the best skater on the team, and guys were noticing that I was even zippier and was starting to really use my skating ability. Cross-overs felt sluggish on my old runners, but with the profiled runners they feel like I'm 20 years younger again. I had also been unable to use a shallower hollow on the old steel, stuck at 1/2", but with the profile on the fresh runners, I tried 9/16" right out of the gate and it felt like I had MORE grip on the ice. Oh, and I haven't had them sharpened yet after six games, still no bad edges with the DLC. Thanks @HockeyTutorialOfficial for all the content covering profiling and BladeTech, it's really helped me have more fun the past couple months. I sent this video along to a couple team mates that asked for advice on their own edges after our last game!
5'9",160lbs, Quad 0.5 Prosharp, neutral pitch, 5/8" hollow. Will probably be switching to a 10mm forward pitch next time and 3/4" hollow as well.
Excellent & informative video. Thanks. Finally profiling is becoming a consistently good product. Old school, one needed a wizard doing it all by candle light…. Now a machine can do it pretty much perfect. Im going to finally go for it -thx!
Regarding edges, You are spot on-Far too many skate rinks just give you what they know. Ive even had to notify a prep school because they told my son he wouldn’t notice the difference (cushing prep academy in Massachusetts).!!
I had to explain (although I shouldn’t have too) just what you spoke of. We live in Phoenix Arizona & the ice in summer gets incredibly soft. Horrible actually in the older barns..Im about 190lbs & use a 1” because its so soft. My son needed to make his choice based on how HIS edges felt. Not what the lazy skate person puts on it…Its crazy to discuss edges & they are way to deep and the players too heavy on such soft ice. Far too many never bother to check and remember many of the fundamental things you’ve mentioned. Their skating could be so much easier if they paid attention to what you state. Major kudos!
Big thanks Jon, its a hard subject to breakdown. I hope everything was clear :D
I'm in Toronto, which is hockey crazy central of the entire world, and it's remarkable the difference of opinion I get from "experts" at various shops. Just when you think you've got it figured out somebody throws you a winger.
No specific profile I know of. Nobody does it near me. I'm 70kg and use 1/2". Looking forward to watching the video !
I'm 5'9, 165 lbs and I'm on a PHL Quad 2 (7'-10'-15'-18') and a 7/8" sharpen, 1" in the summer with the softer ice
Wow! That's like what an NHL player would use.
Our daughter has been playing hockey for more than eight years now (having started at the age of six). She changed to 7/8" on advice of her coach about three season ago and is absolutely happy with it. It matches her edge control ability perfectly and gives her a good glide.
While I'm sharpening the skates myself with a Sparx machine unfortunately our local hockey shop doesn't offer profiling but we keep looking for that.
6’2” 230 lbs, and mine has always been 5/8”. Had to get my new Bauer Mach skates profiled more forward. They even told me it would feel more back leaning, but try it for a couple skates and come back and change it if I needed. Definitely needed it.
I’m 55. 240 lbs. played 30 years on D. Was recently asked to play Center For years I used a 3/8” hollow but have since switched up to 3/4” hollow to have better glide. I switch throughout the summer decreasing the hollow as my skate guy told me if I went straight to the 3/4 that I would find it too much of a change. I also a few years ago switched my blades out and got a set of Tydan blades here in Dundas,on. They do a lot of pro blades. Check them out. I also went with a 11 foot radius. It has really helped my overall skating and fatigue level being a big guy 6’4”. Love your reviews
6’ 225 lbs. When I first started skating, I skated 3/8. As time when on I switched to larger hollow. I skate 3/4 now and a quad profile. Quad zero usually but whatever quad profile I can get done. Almost all pros skate 3/4. The better skater you become the larger hollow you should be skating. The only downside to the larger hollow is sometimes it takes a bit to get into your edges. The better skater you become, the less of a problem it is. I have zero problem getting in my edges at 3/4. The opposite is true with tendies, as tendies get better they usually transition to sharper hollows.
1/2 to 3/8. Depending on if we were going to get ice cleaned between periods. If not, 3/8 to help cut through the ice when it’s all beat up. I played D and needed my edges for pivots and stops and starts.
I just learned about this yesterday, when i took my 5yo’s skates into a different shop bc i knew something was wrong. He went from amazing control and speed to slipping all over the place …. Would you be willing to give advice for younger skaters? I can only explain what i see as a mum, as my little guy is too young to express exactly what is going on. We got a fire-sharpen … thank you.
I assume fire-sharpen is the Sparx Fire sharpen which is a way of getting around the copyright of the FBV (Flat Bottom Vee). This type of sharpening gets damaged or wears out quickly. He probably just needed a new sharpening. According to local experts here in Toronto the FBV or Fire has gone out of style. They'd just recommend a larger diameter hollow if you want that effect. I'm told NHL players use 1" hollow. It makes them much faster but they have to have stronger ankles and skating skills. Run your fingers over the sharp edge cross ways when they've just been sharpened so you can check them out at any time later to see how badly they need to be sharpened.
80 kg (177 lbs), 18mm (approx. 3/4") ROH. One radius profile (9 feet) -- moved from a standard 10 feet for maneuverability.
LS3 steel. First generation CCM JetSpeed with Tuuk holder (272mm).
LOVE the detail you went into! Even with kg and lb. Legend !
You need revisit this topic every year. That I how important this topic is.
I hand sharpen, and profile, my runners. Standard CCM rocker and 3/4" hollow. About 200 lbs, 5'-11', 61 years old.
went through a few profiles after seeing ur vid last year, big help. im 150lbs, landed on 5/8 with a 9-10 split and feels very nimble for me
6ft 210, im a fast skater , use cross overs to increase speed, quick starts and stops and sharp turns, i juggle between 3/8 and less grips, but im not sure what i need 3/8 feels really sharp , but if i use any less i start slipping and falling on sharp turns or trying to increase speed wirh cross overs
Man I wish I realized long ago there were different grinds and profiles. I was always a light weak skater and started with probably a 13/⅝ radius, it served me well. Then got a random radius and smaller profile and never skated right again.
Im convinced most people especially inexperienced people get skates much too sharp for their needs and far too often. The only thing that you really need a sharpening for are nicks and flat spots. The steel these days is so good it can stay sharp enough a really really long time.
Skate guards are very important in preventing damage off the ice in my opinion.
I ref and play and probably average on the ice at least 3 hrs a week and Im a very fast skater. 5’8 175. I havent had my skates sharpened in like a year. I typically ask for like a 5/8 as I like some glide because I play defense and ref and Im on the ice a lot and fatigues my legs less. They definitely could use a sharpening but I have the rocket runners and its a pain at my local shop. Im probably going to start using the scalloped runners i got with a different pair soon, but I do love the rocket runners.
I’m a smaller guy at 5’8 140lbs. I’m in Georgia where it’s over 90 degrees everyday so the ice is definitely softer. I’ve been skating on a 1/2’ hollow for a while, but I just ordered the Black Diamond DLC runners from BladeTech with a 5/8 sharpen. Trying something new. Haven’t ventured out and gotten profiled yet.
How did the 5/8 hollow turn out for you? I am a similar height/weight and was stuck at 1/2 on my old steel. I went with a Quad Zero profile with the DLC and 9/16 and it was actually GRIPPIER for me. I'm curious if I should go further to 9/16 next. I'm on some reasonably hard ice in Colorado.
@@WillKlein I love it. I was nervous at first and didn’t know if I’d still have the same amount of control on my edges. I was pretty surprised because I didn’t really notice the loss of bite/grip with my edges, but I was definitely gliding a lot more effortlessly. It was extremely noticeable right away. I’m actually thinking about going more dull now after 4 months. I might go 3/4 soon just to experiment. I haven’t gotten into profiling just yet though.
My son is 12yo and 110lbs (50kg). He has Quad profile or Detroit 1. I sharpen his skates to 7/8”. But next season we will try 1”. In Sweden its very common to use between 3/4” and 1-1/18”
My daughter is 7yo 65lbs, has ”foppa” profile and sharpened to 3/4”
That weight+radius let us sharpen may be once in 30 or 40 sessions. Not good for sharpeners and runners sales thought
6'1" 260lbs - Quad 0 and used to be 90/75 on winter ice or 90/50 on summer ice. Recently tried out a 3/4 which isn't bad as well.
I’m 5’9 190 lbs.. I’ve been using a 1/2 for as long as I can remember. I have tired 3/8 & 5/8 but just didn’t like them as much as a 1/2.. which gives you the best of both worlds- grip + speed. I play on average 2 hours per week. I’m just confused as to what Profiling I should get for my steel… I’ve never had them profiled before in my 23+ years of playing hockey. I am one of the quicker guys in the ice and I have a great 1st/2nd powerful stride that helps me beat others in tight spots. I feel as if I’m a more athletic forward leaning skater than most. .. soo maybe a forward tilt profile ??? I’m unsure , I don’t want it to be too drastic to where it messes up my stride but also am curious to see if this would help make me a better more complete skater.?
FYI- I grew up playing street/roller hockey my entire life. 2-3x as much as ice just because of the accessibility and cost growing up. So not sure if me being a roller guy changes my stride and I should get a certain profile based on that.
Im 6' 2" 150lbs. I played in the military and in college D3, I play Defense with a neutral pitch and a 7 or 9 ft profile with a 7/16th hollow depending on the quality of the ice.
On my goalie skates i have an 11ft profile, neutral pitch, and a 5/8ths hollow.
Ive been experimenting with the flat bottom V sharpenings but i havent settled on one i love yet.
I wish Bladetech would allow you the option to rent blades in the profiles they offer. Then you could try them all out on the ice and purchase the right profile for you. It would be too expensive to go through 4 sets of steel guessing what works best for you!
Same here I actually was just thinking the same thing I don't wanna order and then hate them and have to reorder that's too much money and hassle
I'm a 5'10, 175 lbs offensive defensman and use a 9/16 ROH with a 10' profile with a very mild forward pitch. Gives me the perfect balance of bite and acceleration without sacrificing agility
Love all your videos. I skate both hockey and long track speed skates. Speed skates have no hollow. I am used to that, so my hockey skates have a 3/4" hollow for indoor rinks. If I know I'll be going out on a lake or pond where the ice is hard, I'll have the skates sharpened to a 1/2" hollow. The hockey skates have an 11" rocker. I am 175lb.
11' rocker. 11 feet.
As a 11 year old kid who plays in one of the best leagues in North America for youth hockey the HPL. I’ve been told by many NHL players I should use a 3/8 because as I’m under 150lbs it doesn’t matter because I’m not heavy enough to get lots of dig in the ice. Also I personally use hollow v profile it makes the blade flatter making it feel like a 1/2 but I have more bite
After reading the comments I must share...I was 8, got a a used pair of skates. My dad decided to put a nice grind on my blades and used an angle grinder and turned them into a hatchet bevel. In short I had a hard time standing up
6'0" 150 lbs, 5/8 flat bottom V, standard step blacksteel profile, absolutely love it but am seriously considering getting the bladetechs and getting them profiled
Been in BladeTech for a couple years. It’s superior to step steel BlackSteel if you get the DLC version. The metal quality is better and the edge lasts longer. The steel costs the same too. Just a thought.
@@mongillohockey thank you, thats been one of my concerns is the steel quality compared to step black, I think you've just convinced me to make the switch
@@yeetuspeetus6598 Glad to help. I had to be convinced too! Lol. I happen to be into knives and am pretty familiar with steel types. Most runners are made with 400 series steel. BladeTech is a harder version of that. That’s why the sharpening lasts a bit longer. The DLC on the step and BladeTech seems to be the same high quality.
180lbs and i have owned a skate sharpener for 20 years and tried most profiles and radius' . I have settled on 9/16ths and standard blade profile
Great video, comprehensive explanations! Only comment is that the number of each section (pizza slice) refers to the circles RADIUS not the diameter or circumference. Well that and then that European players need to convert into meters instead of feet for the profile radia and millimeter for the depth of their hollow! Again really great video. And if your kid is starting to play 4-7 years old, I highly recommend that you are kind to them, go with the maximum radius profile (17” ft aka 5.18 m rather than the shorter out of the box 11-13” ft aka 3.35 - 3.96m single radius profile) and as sharp as possible to give them maximum grip and make those initial weeks enjoyable. I sharpened my kids and their team mates in Year one of Hockey School (4-5 years old) to 10 or 12 mm sharpness on our Prosharp AS2001. Once the kids are stable and glide properly, I decrease the hollow (essentially making them blunter but faster forward glide) up to 20 mm even if they only weight 20kgs. Then I start to profile shorter. Often directly to “Foppa” yes the 13” / 3.96m that Peter Forsberg played on which is then most common for the 7-10 years old kids, experimenting instead with less sharpness to help them with maximum speed forward or backwards, to the point that they nearly loose grip. For example my now 10 year old is 155 cm / 5.08 ft and weight 52 kg / 115 lb / 8.2 stone has testet up to 25 mm for his hollow, but is most confident at 22 mm on indoor rinks but needs 20 mm when we are on “winter ice” which is outdoor rinks and rinks in tents where the below zero C outdoor temperature leads to much harder ice. But at that point we started to try out Prosharp profiles and he has settled on they Zuperior S Profile for his 255 mm long blades in his CCM Ribcors. This is the first “new” skate he has because he now needs the stiffness and protection these skates offer as they have progressed and their wrist shots and clappers have become painful. Thank you for this super video and good luck finding your profile and sharpness. If you have zero idea where to start as an adult, go with single radius 13” / 3.96 meters and calculate a sharpness based on body weight / pi aka 89kg / 3.14 = ca 28 mm. Have fun
200 pounds - usually do 3/4ths with my black steel. Looking for the best glide, bite, and forward pitch combination.
185lbs , 5’10 - 1/2 hollow and I was using a 9 ft profile but recently changed to a quad zero .
5'10", 170 lbs defenseman. 14 years old, Bantam AA/AAA. 1 inch hollow. Don't know why, but it feels right.
5'4" 220; cut at 3/4. Thinking about doing 9ft profiling done. Not sure about forward pitch yet. I'm using black step steel.
My son is 5’6” 130lbs 14 years old defenseman. Wondering what is the best profile and skate sharpening radius for him?
Hey Chris, you should do a piece on a system developed in Toronto,CA. It profiles and sharpens at the same time. It’s called Skatescribe. Uses CNC technology, fully computerized. Allows total flexibility for any profile you can think of.
That sounds very interesting! I’ll have to try reach out to them. Thank you for the suggestion !
Winter I use 5/8 and summer I use 3/4 and I believe my profile is 9 towards the front and 10 in the back.
It's amazing how much effort is put into sliding around on ice
Wow this is truly fantastic science 🧬 and mathematics 🧮 teaching for understanding the physics of this! Bravo!
I've always thought 5/8" is way too sharp for skaters? as a goalie i use 1/2" (or 12mm) as a skater i use a prosharp quad with 24-26mm hollow (a bit more than 1") i am 180cm 75kg. never had a slip out. had my skates sharpened by the guy at my sons team and he made them 20mm (because he didn't change from sharpening kids skates) and that was way too much bite. Felt like skating in mud
I’m 6’ and sit about 210lbs. I use a 3/4 fire wheel from Sparx. I’ve never done profiling but have been wanting to try it.
176cm (5"9) 90kg . Quad 0 profile. I use 9/16 in winter for harder ice and 5/8 in summer for softer ice on bauer 2s pros and bauer pulse ti blades. Love prosharp. Play defenseman.
Currently using a Quad II, since I wear a 10.5 skate, for the added stability and power with a 7/16" hollow (I'm 6'0.5" and 215 lbs). I mostly went with the deeper hollow since I've been learning to use my outside edge must more effectively and wanted a sharper skate to accent the edges. Once I get more comfortable with the outside edge, I will probably go back to a 5/8" to increase the glide and speed.
Next, however, I want to try the new elliptical profile.
Thanks for sharing! Nice detail too !
5'6" 150 lbs - Quad 0 profile and 1" hollow. This may only work because I play in California and most of the ice is pretty soft
You're damn right about getting a random grind by random places.
5'11" 165 lbs. can't skate with anything other than 3/8 and get them sharpened every 5 or 6 times on the ice. I love the bite and the ability to stop and start on a dime.
Profile has been around for a long time, but not a lot of shops acknowledge it when sharpening…. Maybe Sparx could do an update to accommodate profiles. Maybe you could do a calculator tool? Especially for ice conditions and player body type
5’9” 170 lbs. 5/8 and getting a quad I profile arriving in a couple days. First time getting a profile so hopefully it goes good
my son is 11 he weighs 80 pounds give or take. because he is in youth sizing he cant take advantage of the new bauer sizing so he had to move up from vapour to supreme. on vapours he was on 7/16 or half inch and an 11 foot radius. the suopremes had a 13 foot radius. in the supremes with the flatter radius he could not hold an edge in tight turns. we tried different hollows but nothing helped. then we tried the zuperior profile . his skating and edge work instantly improved. he is now on 5/8 with the profiled blades
Makes such a different right ? Thank you for sharing
I'm 5'11" 200 pounds using a 1/2" hollow with 8'/13' combination radius with a medium forward pitch. Seems to work pretty well for me.
Why does the static image which is shown for this video depict the "hollow" of the blade, not the profile/rockering?
ME - 5’ 7” / 1.7M @ 158 lbs / 71.7 Kg. PROFILE - Dual profile with 9’ front and 10’ rear. StepSteel. EDGE - Flat bottom V. 50/100.
I'm 5'6 about 160-170 lbs and currently skating on a 5/8 hollow working on being a winger
My son is 13 yrs old, 5'4, 115lbs. He plays center and left wing. He uses a quad profile and 90/1 edge.
5’11”, 220lbs.. im on 1 1/2 (38mm, prosharp Quad zero profile)
Iv’e had the same hollow since i was 20 (41 now). Skated/played hockey since i was 6..
8-year hockey dad, 2-year adult beginner (40+ YO, 5' 6", 160 lb)
I started out ignorant about hockey gear but love learning and improving.
From the beginning, I presumed me and my skater (now bantam) would need to progress from Standard (commonly 1/2 hollow) upward towards the sharper 5/16 like a "pro" as we develop hockey experience. Boy was I wrong. I am now settling in at 9/16 for 14-YO and 5/8 for myself.
Our Bauer Supreme and Vapor skates are the single profile (9 or 11 foot) from the factory. Profiling might be my next adventure.
I’m 6’6” 245lbs. I use the t blade system. I use the 288 M15. I prefer the consistency of the t blade system. Just order new blades, same cut, same sharpen every time.
6’1, 245 with my old reebok white k I used a 5/8 hollow for the longest time and loved it, got new Bauer supreme 3s skates and it didn’t quite feel right on this so I switched to 9/16, have never done profiling but did take some getting used to the profile that came on the new skates
Dude, phenomenal video- well done
Great job, very well explained in great detail
I use a 35-50 cag one with sparx 3/4 flat bottom, I'm 5'10 and about 210lbs, works well for me. My CCMs as a kid always had a forward pitch and made me skate over my toes.
Would love try cag one! Haven't been able to find a shop with proper machine.
I'm 275 lbs and I use 1/2" on 3mm player skates and 9/16 on 4mm goalie skates. I have tried 5/8 on my player skates and it felt like I had no grip and hated it. Standard 10' Bauer profile though.
really good and interesting video, but I would also really like to see more stick reviews of different manufactures e.g. the new Sher-Wood or the Warrior Stick line. But also reviews to the new sticks from our big brands like CCM and Bauer.l
Thank you! We'll see what is possible if True agrees. Warrior no doubt !
I contacted CCM rep who stated that their blades on their skates are a 10 ft radius. Can’t say for sure on Baur
5'11" 165lbs I use 1" hollow. use regular bauer profile, but thinking of trying quad 0
6'5 230 lbs I do a 5/8 fat guy cut . got them profiled but honestly not sure how much I like it ( will take advice !)
Soft ice?
@@lukedewitt8385 Yes, Pennsylvania , hot as hell up here
@@ChristopherWaddell I’m in Texas brother idk if I agree with you haha
6'1", 275 LBS. Im using True customs with STEP blacksteel with 5/8 cut, unprofiled.
Peace brother I need help 😅🫡 hope you can give some advice. I am 6’6 and 290 lbs forward who likes to have quick edges and moving more agile with quick maneuvers. I know my weight is heavy 😂 I am trained and have big legs. My skates when borrowed from the rink often gets stucked in the ice and I feel the gliding isnt optimal or skates dont feel smooth when making hard transitions or changing directions and its frustrated. What would you recommend for profile? And blade sharpening for my size?
Best regards 🫡🙏
P.s the page recommended Quad 2 (Prosharp) 🤔
5'8" 300lbs play occasionally but I use a 3/4 for rink ice and 7/8 for pond ice
What skates are you using?
@@Jacob.91 I was in bauer nexus but I just switched to true tf7s mainly sticking to 3/4 and 5/8 now though.
@@jordanmullenhopkins I’m just getting into hockey and I’m 6’ 300lbs just trying to find a good set of skates for bigger guys with wider feet I wear size 13 in shoes
@@Jacob.91 I think your best bet would be an size 11 True skate either a TF9 or catalyst definately going to need a stiffer boot. Go to a store and try out different skates and see what you like. Best of luck man.
I run two different pro shops and I love helping people find their sharpen. No matter how experienced or new you are don't feel awkward asking your pro shop what cut they recommend. We sharpen hundreds if not thousands of skates, work with different players of different skills and builds and maybe even across multiple rinks or sheets of ice. We get good at knowing what ice our rink has, and what will probably work best for you.
I wish you ran the one by me. They aren't very helpful and basically want you in and out.
@@HolyMountain1915 I see that a lot. Neither shop is big by any means, but we do very well because everyone is knowledgeable and good at what we do. We are located 5-10 minutes from a Pure Hockey and get tons of customers coming from there to us to get skates sharpened. It honestly blows my mind.
Standard 10' profile. 200 lbs: 7/8". 180lbs: 3/4" Fire.
I tried 5/8" Fire and my knees wanted to cry.
Tried Quad profile and I hated it. The extra blade contact makes the zone of centered edges feel way too small and I don't like the loss in agility.
Really want to try 9' with a forward pitch. I'm guessing it'll feel like I need to flex my stiff ass Tacks less to accomplish similar results?
Great videos, great information, keep up the good work.
9:50 i tested my fly ti quad profile blade with 2 pieces of paper and it was only like 4cm left in the middle on the table
184cm, 157kg skating on 1/2” non profiled SS black steel. I have had a quad 2 profile before and found it made me lazier. I stopped cross over turns and glided more.
I use a quad radius zero from bladetech canada. 175lbs 1/2 flat bottom V or fire ring with sparks
I am 5’3, 210 lbs, I’m a forward, and I just get mine sharpened because I have poor social skills so I just ask “Can I get these sharpened?” And nothing more plus don’t know which hollow I should be using. I have never tried profiling. I like my blades as is but my rink doesn’t maintain their floor well and I keep blowing my edges on exposed cement.
5’10” 170lbs. Been using a 1/2in but have been thinking about trying less of a hollow