Number 7: replacement of oil dipsticks with a readout on your fancy digital dashboard. Like, why not both if you must have it inside the car. Why remove the dipstick.
Nice one. This very well resonates with how I feel about automotive industry. Every time I get to know about a new gimmicky feature that new cars get, I ask, "What problem does it solve?", yet another time realizing it doesn't solve anything, in fact it creates problems. Automotive design has already peaked. Car manufacturers do this silly stuff pretending they're innovating. They don't. Too bad it's now very easy to convince people into buying stuff that actually hurts them.
I'm completely on 'your page', so to speak. I've been working with programmers and so called developers and they tend to 'develop' stuff just because they can, not really thinking everything through properly. That could be (is) dangerous. When Citroën tried a concept of putting proper knobs and buttons in places where they intuitively should be (where your hands/fingers are) the whole car journalists community had a mental breakdown. Now every carmaker finds their own different ways to confuse the drivers (since we are habitual creatures) and no one seems to mind.. very strange (and, yes, I'm biased...). I really appreciate your sane views and reasoning. Thanks! 👍
My cousin bought a VW with self parking, He tried the feature out of curiosity and told me that it turns the wheels very quickly standing still. Not the best for tyres and the steering mechanism.
I am driving a FIAT Grande Punto which has a voice assistant called Blue&Me from today's perspective compared to any modern voice assistant like Goolge assistant or Siri it doesn't make much impression any more but my gosh take away any touchscreen from me and give me only buttons on steering wheel and voice commands it is a lot more convinet than smashing everything into touch screen.
And for some reason I have a feeling that choosing a phone call by voice in my Punto is a bit faster than what you showed in your video. Maybe because I don't have to get to my phone to use the voice assistant and I just have to press the button on my steering wheel to wake up the voice assistant.
I prefer cars to be mechanical and engaging to drive, I don't want to feel like I'm sitting in a smart phone with wheels, I want the manual transmission, the dashboard to have real needle dials, for the controls to be tactile and easy to find without taking your eyes off the road. I will weep for the day when the final REAL automobiles stop rolling off the assembly line.
Oh, I‘m talking to my Citroën C1. I tell her that she is a good girl and that I love her. No knobs on the steering wheel, no touch screen, no A/C, no electric windows no nothing etc. But small, unsafe, not enough power… really? I own an old iPhone to play with and this car to drive with. I’m old fashioned… 😊
My C3 has Apple car play and that works amazingly. I would say it has over 95% accuracy and it lets me me make calls and dictate messages without taking my eyes off the road. I just press a button on my steering wheel
Hi, another great video. One plus though of the virtual cockpit or digital dash is that it can display the moving map with traffic congestion when you need it to. You then don't need to look across to the radio where the map would normally be. And when you don't need the moving map, just select the normal digital dials. These things are or should be hardened and made to withstand the harsh environments within a car, and so far, the ones I have owned have been very good. They ultimately offer more flexibility to taylor the right information a driver wants or needs for a given situation, and not every customers needs can be catered for on full analogue or hybrid type binicles. Agree though, when they go wrong, then its a world of pain.
Some of this depends on the car, I used to have a 2013 Mercedes SL. The voice control was very useful for the Sat nav, and the auto park was very useful.
@@HelioMusselwhite-Veitch they are the bane of clutch replacements. My old BX cost 250 euros to replace the clutch (it was 20 years ago, but still) and this car is going to cost 5 or 6 times that when it comes to replacing it. Because of that dual mass malarkey
@comcarclub yup, I've ranted on here before (probably wearing your fixed hub t shirt actually that I bought the day the DMF went would you believe, I'll blame that on you😂) and now I am finally around to getting done in an attempt to save my lovely but dodgy and ill fated first car. I'm at the point of dropping the box now but the right driveshaft bearing is rusted solid (UK and IE weather) has now derailed me. It's on breeze blocks and timbers outside and has taken me 5-9 Monday to Thursday to get to this point! The dealer quoted me 1500 when the DMF failed but looking at all the bolts I've had to drill out and the missing impacter (which has caused my flywheel to ROT inside of the bellhousing) it would probably have run me about 4k. Very upset. I hope the euro weather and less miles is treating yours better. No launching off the line and a few prayers and your dmf should be OK for a while! Fingers crossed!!
@@HelioMusselwhite-Veitch OMG, that sucks. Yes, here in Southern Europe, we're poor and on the tail-end of most European-wide statistics, but at least our cars don't rust that much
@comcarclub went to porto and faro on 2 work trips and always very very happy to see lots of 307s and C5s happy and well, it may seem stupid me saying that but these're cars that have nearly rotted out of existence here!
In the spirit of DMF's. I had one replaced on me old 03 Mondeo, and it died again after ~180k km. Now, on C5 X7, I just went for DMF to SMF kit from Valeo, over 200k km doing fine. Just a thought.
Capacitive controls suck really hard on my kitchen hob, I can only imagen how hard they can suck in a car. Also, also, you can make anything sporty, me and my C5 French """Corvette""" drive like there is no tomorrow... allegedly!
I really liked your video up until you started hating on Top Gear, you've got a enjoyable video format and narrative and all that but the thing about top gear really didn't sit right with me. Jeremy Clarkson defended Citroën's hydropneumatic suspension (for example the insert where he compared a Citroën C6 against a BMW 5-series E91), later in The Grand Tour he compared a similar BMW to a Citroën CX saying how there's no car in the world that gives a better ride than the CX James May was always in favor of a comfortable suspension and the other two picked on him about it. Stating for example that Aston Martin's were ruined when the company started chasing Nürgburgring lap times instead of comfort
Hi there. Guess what? We don't have to agree. If you like Top Gear and I don't it's no skin off my nose. You can like SUVs and touchscreens all you like and you're perfectly welcome here. We all like and dislike different things, and we can all still get on with each other. That's the best way to make this world work. Take care
The CX episode where they are able to disarm a bomb because of the smooth ride, and the e61 explodes because its very rough ride is a great compliment to the suspension of the first.
@@comcarclub I think lap times only mattered in sports cars/sleepers/hot hatchs. I don't remeber they testing lap times of a regular car, apart of a cheap car challenge with a beater. It's just consumer preference for optional sportier packs, like Audi's S-Line, BMW M-Pack or MB AMG-Line that drove the trend of suspensions getting harder, in my opinion. As the consumer loved the sportier handling, they delivered the cars like that. Same for SUVs with the taller driving position and sportier and more adventurous look than a MPV
@@miguelcardoso1903 I understand what you mean, and you have a point. James May once had an epic rant against the Nürburgring because of ride comfort. But the whole mindset around cars changed with the them, sensible and practical cars were ridiculed, all glory to hot cars and big engines. Certain people loved all of that and wanted to be a part of it, but most couldn't afford an expensive supercar. Motoring journalists were on the bandwagon too, wanting to exhibit their penchant for being able to spot the cars that are "fun to drive" and recommending them over soggier cars that were more comfortable. It ruined everything. But I appreciate the insight, Miguel, you are right that they weren't overt. I would argue it was more undercover
SUV's and comfort... get into a BMW X5 and see by yourself. Horrendous drive, bumpy, very uncomfortable. Shocking. Tried also any Volvo XC and VW's... really poor handling and comfort. And ugly looking. Yes, the good old Range Rover with air suspension is excellent. Not Citroën-excellent, but still vastly superior to German SUV's.
Number 7: replacement of oil dipsticks with a readout on your fancy digital dashboard. Like, why not both if you must have it inside the car. Why remove the dipstick.
Nice one. This very well resonates with how I feel about automotive industry. Every time I get to know about a new gimmicky feature that new cars get, I ask, "What problem does it solve?", yet another time realizing it doesn't solve anything, in fact it creates problems. Automotive design has already peaked. Car manufacturers do this silly stuff pretending they're innovating. They don't. Too bad it's now very easy to convince people into buying stuff that actually hurts them.
100% on the mark here. Every word. But car-buyers seem to have bought into all the fads and fashions. 😢
I'm completely on 'your page', so to speak. I've been working with programmers and so called developers and they tend to 'develop' stuff just because they can, not really thinking everything through properly. That could be (is) dangerous. When Citroën tried a concept of putting proper knobs and buttons in places where they intuitively should be (where your hands/fingers are) the whole car journalists community had a mental breakdown. Now every carmaker finds their own different ways to confuse the drivers (since we are habitual creatures) and no one seems to mind.. very strange (and, yes, I'm biased...). I really appreciate your sane views and reasoning. Thanks! 👍
My cousin bought a VW with self parking, He tried the feature out of curiosity and told me that it turns the wheels very quickly standing still. Not the best for tyres and the steering mechanism.
Tesla and other manufacturers also use double laminated glass, like for the windshield, on windows to reduce noises.
I am driving a FIAT Grande Punto which has a voice assistant called Blue&Me from today's perspective compared to any modern voice assistant like Goolge assistant or Siri it doesn't make much impression any more but my gosh take away any touchscreen from me and give me only buttons on steering wheel and voice commands it is a lot more convinet than smashing everything into touch screen.
And for some reason I have a feeling that choosing a phone call by voice in my Punto is a bit faster than what you showed in your video. Maybe because I don't have to get to my phone to use the voice assistant and I just have to press the button on my steering wheel to wake up the voice assistant.
I prefer cars to be mechanical and engaging to drive, I don't want to feel like I'm sitting in a smart phone with wheels, I want the manual transmission, the dashboard to have real needle dials, for the controls to be tactile and easy to find without taking your eyes off the road. I will weep for the day when the final REAL automobiles stop rolling off the assembly line.
Oh, I‘m talking to my Citroën C1. I tell her that she is a good girl and that I love her. No knobs on the steering wheel, no touch screen, no A/C, no electric windows no nothing etc. But small, unsafe, not enough power… really? I own an old iPhone to play with and this car to drive with. I’m old fashioned… 😊
What's wrong with talking to your car? I thank mine after long journeys
My C3 has Apple car play and that works amazingly. I would say it has over 95% accuracy and it lets me me make calls and dictate messages without taking my eyes off the road. I just press a button on my steering wheel
Hi, another great video. One plus though of the virtual cockpit or digital dash is that it can display the moving map with traffic congestion when you need it to. You then don't need to look across to the radio where the map would normally be. And when you don't need the moving map, just select the normal digital dials. These things are or should be hardened and made to withstand the harsh environments within a car, and so far, the ones I have owned have been very good. They ultimately offer more flexibility to taylor the right information a driver wants or needs for a given situation, and not every customers needs can be catered for on full analogue or hybrid type binicles.
Agree though, when they go wrong, then its a world of pain.
Kudos to the author, very interesting content.
yup. i agree with this
Some of this depends on the car, I used to have a 2013 Mercedes SL. The voice control was very useful for the Sat nav, and the auto park was very useful.
how about dual mass flwheels, I am in the middle of doing mine in my X7! Stupid awkward expensive!
@@HelioMusselwhite-Veitch they are the bane of clutch replacements. My old BX cost 250 euros to replace the clutch (it was 20 years ago, but still) and this car is going to cost 5 or 6 times that when it comes to replacing it. Because of that dual mass malarkey
@comcarclub yup, I've ranted on here before (probably wearing your fixed hub t shirt actually that I bought the day the DMF went would you believe, I'll blame that on you😂) and now I am finally around to getting done in an attempt to save my lovely but dodgy and ill fated first car. I'm at the point of dropping the box now but the right driveshaft bearing is rusted solid (UK and IE weather) has now derailed me. It's on breeze blocks and timbers outside and has taken me 5-9 Monday to Thursday to get to this point! The dealer quoted me 1500 when the DMF failed but looking at all the bolts I've had to drill out and the missing impacter (which has caused my flywheel to ROT inside of the bellhousing) it would probably have run me about 4k. Very upset. I hope the euro weather and less miles is treating yours better. No launching off the line and a few prayers and your dmf should be OK for a while! Fingers crossed!!
@@HelioMusselwhite-Veitch OMG, that sucks. Yes, here in Southern Europe, we're poor and on the tail-end of most European-wide statistics, but at least our cars don't rust that much
@comcarclub went to porto and faro on 2 work trips and always very very happy to see lots of 307s and C5s happy and well, it may seem stupid me saying that but these're cars that have nearly rotted out of existence here!
In the spirit of DMF's. I had one replaced on me old 03 Mondeo, and it died again after ~180k km. Now, on C5 X7, I just went for DMF to SMF kit from Valeo, over 200k km doing fine. Just a thought.
Capacitive controls suck really hard on my kitchen hob, I can only imagen how hard they can suck in a car.
Also, also, you can make anything sporty, me and my C5 French """Corvette""" drive like there is no tomorrow... allegedly!
I really liked your video up until you started hating on Top Gear, you've got a enjoyable video format and narrative and all that but the thing about top gear really didn't sit right with me.
Jeremy Clarkson defended Citroën's hydropneumatic suspension (for example the insert where he compared a Citroën C6 against a BMW 5-series E91), later in The Grand Tour he compared a similar BMW to a Citroën CX saying how there's no car in the world that gives a better ride than the CX
James May was always in favor of a comfortable suspension and the other two picked on him about it. Stating for example that Aston Martin's were ruined when the company started chasing Nürgburgring lap times instead of comfort
Hi there. Guess what? We don't have to agree. If you like Top Gear and I don't it's no skin off my nose. You can like SUVs and touchscreens all you like and you're perfectly welcome here. We all like and dislike different things, and we can all still get on with each other. That's the best way to make this world work. Take care
The CX episode where they are able to disarm a bomb because of the smooth ride, and the e61 explodes because its very rough ride is a great compliment to the suspension of the first.
@@comcarclub I think lap times only mattered in sports cars/sleepers/hot hatchs. I don't remeber they testing lap times of a regular car, apart of a cheap car challenge with a beater.
It's just consumer preference for optional sportier packs, like Audi's S-Line, BMW M-Pack or MB AMG-Line that drove the trend of suspensions getting harder, in my opinion. As the consumer loved the sportier handling, they delivered the cars like that. Same for SUVs with the taller driving position and sportier and more adventurous look than a MPV
@@miguelcardoso1903 I understand what you mean, and you have a point. James May once had an epic rant against the Nürburgring because of ride comfort. But the whole mindset around cars changed with the them, sensible and practical cars were ridiculed, all glory to hot cars and big engines. Certain people loved all of that and wanted to be a part of it, but most couldn't afford an expensive supercar. Motoring journalists were on the bandwagon too, wanting to exhibit their penchant for being able to spot the cars that are "fun to drive" and recommending them over soggier cars that were more comfortable. It ruined everything. But I appreciate the insight, Miguel, you are right that they weren't overt. I would argue it was more undercover
@@miguelcardoso1903 was that on the grand tour? I haven't watched much of it
SUV's and comfort... get into a BMW X5 and see by yourself. Horrendous drive, bumpy, very uncomfortable. Shocking. Tried also any Volvo XC and VW's... really poor handling and comfort. And ugly looking. Yes, the good old Range Rover with air suspension is excellent. Not Citroën-excellent, but still vastly superior to German SUV's.
@@olivier6151 excellent point, and I can definitely agree with that.
Hi are you still doing the T-shirts with the side profile of the c5 can’t remember where to get them? Many thanks in advance gav
I haven't, but other people are asking about t-shirts so I may make them available again
That’s great news such a simple but great design I’ll keep my eyes open for them many thanks gav