History of the Drumset - Part 5, 1917 - New Orleans Style Drumming
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- Опубліковано 18 гру 2024
- The New Orleans-based Original Dixieland Jass Band (with drummer Tony Sbarbaro) makes the first official "jazz" recordings in New York City. Around the same time, other Crescent City musicians - including drummers Baby Dodds and Zutty Singleton - relocate to Chicago, where the New Orleans jazz style becomes very influential.
In this 15-part series, Vic Firth and Daniel Glass will be looking at 100 years of drumming evolution. Learn about the key events and advancements that shaped the drumset we know and love today!
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Understand the history to play better. What a drummer. Congrats mr Daniel Glass!
Amazing drummer
Thanks!
+Daniel Glass Poop.
Cheers to Vic Firth and Daniel Glass for sharing these awesome little snippets into the history of our drums! Lots of fun! :D
Thank you so much, Crazy 8s Drums. Please spread the word, so we may preserve the incredible history of our instrument.
Daniel Glass I'm a bassist, however as a musician interested in the history of music as whole I am VERY appreciative that you have devoted so much time and effort to cover the evolution of the drum set and the playing styles that came about as a result. Thank you Daniel!!
Very cool look at where the trap set came from!
@@romancastillo9437 Yes this is fascinating; I particularly love the use of the terms "drum set" and "bass drum", rather than "drum kit" and "kick drum" (what does that even mean?).
Though I am a rock drummer (born 1956), I love these other styles. Back in the 70s, my band mates would tease me, "Why do you have your parents records in your collection? That's old peoples' music!" (I had greats like Glenn Miller, Pete Fountain, Harry James, Louis Armstrong, etc., as well as the rock greats. I even owned classical, blues, country, and a lot of other forms.)
My response to these naysayers was, "It's great music, and it is not old peoples' music, it's young peoples' music made in the forties!!!"
Today, all but one thanks me for broadening their horizons. This "odd man out" swears that he would have invented rock music himself, if he had lived in the 40s, just to escape big band, jazz and "all that other crap my parents listened to". (Yes, can anyone say "moron"? hahaha.)
I did take lessons from Les DeMerle (1988 Roselle Music), but would like to learn more about playing jazz, before hospice comes for me.
I heard somewhere they were called 'traps' as a derivative of 'contraption'. Considering the rudimentary mechanics of the foot pedals for the bass drum and low- boy cymbals it kind of made sense.
Thank you Daniel
Great Drummer and Educator. Thanks and Blessings Daniel!!!
Louie Bellson with James Brown (1976) on Soul On Top changed my life. Wow.
Hi Daniel...I discovered you on Drumeo. You keep classic alive! Fantastic drumming!
Jeff Hoback - thanks. For much more, follow Daniel’s “Dummer, Author, Educator” page on FB.
You're an education! Thank you!
very good teaching.
Wow, that was so cool! I am just learning how to play the drums, and playing Trad Jazz is my goal! Thanks for these great vids!
Awesome demo again Daniel! So educational!!!
fantastic informations about the history of the drumset !!!
Hi, I love this. Please make sure that you change the video to show what a cowbell is. The one you show is for a particular kind of ewe drumming. Sorry not sure I spelled that correctly. A cowbell is not a mambo bell or a double bell (Ago-go). Its a particular pitch and size so, if your doing a technical video on this drumming subject, lets be technical. Also , The reason we play drums with our feet is because of tap dancing. This was happening for 150 years before we started to tap dance directly on drums in new orleans. Thats why so many of the first generation drummers were in fact tap dancers. There was no drum language outside of march concepts before tap came into the conversation.
4:03 stank face hits hard
I've watched a couple of these vids, ragtime one was first I saw. .These are great videos and well done research. Thank you.
I’ve always referred to that new Orleans drumming sound as the ‘New Orleans bounce’. I guess because of the bouncing bass drum and rolling snare. I really like this sound.
That was a pleasure. Making music with drums! Thanks
I coupd listen to him play for hours
Thank you Mr Daniel Glass ! Ilike it ! Frienships !
+didier d'agostino Thank you for the kind words, my friend!
Thanks for the great comments, everyone. If you want to see this entire video series in one playlist, you can do so here: tinyurl.com/n35xsxh
You can find more information about "The Century Project" and "TRAPS" DVDs here: danielglass.com/Merchandise.html
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These are too short! You need to get Ken Burns on this shit. lol
this may be too short but the Ken Burns documental is too long unless you are sooo extremely interesed.
***** I don't care that much about this topic sorry.
Geoff Bosco Thanks! These videos are just the tip of the iceberg. If you're
interested in a 3-hr DVD that gets into drum set evolution in a much, much deeper way, check out the DVD"The Century Project." You can view the trailer and order here: danielglass.com/merchandise/
Drumaier J nah, the Ken Burns jazz documentary is still too short
I guess that's why we have ginormous history books available though 😂
Great series of videos. Thanks.
Jazz come from blacks in New Orleans. The first record was cultural appropriation, unless the white musicians not only gave credit to the blacks, but also shared some of the $ and fame with the originals back in New Orleans.
I agree with you to an extent. Most historians and scholars agree that the ODJB were not improvising and falsely claimed to be the "inventors" of jazz. My point in this video is that they were the first to popularize the term "jazz" on a mass scale through their recordings. Unfortunately, because of the abbreviated nature of these videos, I could only get so deep into the full extent of the history - my focus was more on the evolution of the instrument. But obviously, a picture and mention of King Oliver at the very least would have been appropriate.
King Oliver's band came before the "Original" Dixieland Jazz Band. The only reason they got signed to a record deal and got publicity was because they where white. Although King Oliver's band swung so much more, they were black. The stuff those other guys played sounded like carnival music.
Thanks for the comment, Ricardo Guerra. I would agree that King Oliver's band had a more sophisticated presentation of jazz, but the ODJB were excellent musicians, and their style is more reflective of an older ragtime sound than what would come to be known as "jazz." Also, it's important to acknowledge the important role that they played in bringing the sound of New Orleans music to a broader (aka "white") audience, making it possible for black acts to be accepted altogether. The same thing happened with big band swing, rhythm and blues, and rock'n'roll, and to a big extent in the contemporary world of hip hop as well.
+Daniel Glass Poop.
Thx
What was that song in the background called? Sounded like sing sing sing almost.
Tyler Steege Thanks! The song is called East Side Rumble and is from Daniel's "Century Project" DVD. You can view the trailer and
get more info here: danielglass.com/merchandise/
Thanks!
2:04 I have a wood block made out of wood!
New Orleans Style Drumming
I like it :)
Does he really use traditional w/ his right hand or is the vid, erm, inside out?
He's left handed, and playing a left handed kit.
Lefty man
the cowbell for the first drum sets (! - not talking about the ancient history of bells itself or their usage for leading animals) did not come from china but europe. learn e.g. more about the usage of cowbells in the mountain region of germany/switzerland/austria (alps/alm bells) etc. - and the usage as instruments already in classical music (e.g. richard strauss) long time before ragtime/jazz etc. existed. it might be in general a good idea for every serious musician (or as general education) to learn the history of classical music and their variations over the centuries to get a good basic knowledge not just about the evolution of modern music/singing in general - and also how this music evolution differs from the time before (stone age to this medivial time). it also helps to look at the people or companys (e.g. 'ludwig & ludwig' /german migrants) who invented/produced actually the different bells, brushes for the drum sets of old times etc.
I find that idea that early jazz drummers used china cymbals difficult to believe. Is there any evidence of this, eg. pictures of early drummers with them in their kit?
Bass drum
"Developed into their own little thing"....Oh come on now who ever you are!!!!
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why doesn't new orleans name their NBA team, new orleans jazz? lol
They did, but the team moved to Utah : (
Isn't that Utah that uses that name ?
1917.
Buddy Rich was born.
This cat is good and all but he's no Peter Criss.
Great teacher and better drummer. Don't fall into the trap of doctrine though. By this I mean do not reduce individual human performances as some kind of collective doctrine of style. The drummers of history were always plain folk but somehow maintained passion for their interest despite social norms. Be that yourself just like them. Your family want you to have a real job. Be you always no matter. But don't let real job standards manipulate what you expect from yourself as a musician. You see , music has now been industrialised and so changed from invented to fabricated. If you respect your past peers you'll do as they had. Pursuing from passion and not expectations. Remove standard and convention when speaking about individuals successes, especially of past eras
are the faces necessary?? xD (no offence)
They are :) New orleans style!
Don't you make faces when you play?
It's like, it comes with the package.
The Origi
al Dixieland Jass band was not New Orleans based but formed in Chicago late in 1916. There was no other band playing jazz style - False information given in this Part 5. Chris Pirie - musicologist
There were bands playing that style. They were in New Orleans, starting with Buddy Bolden's band.The reason the Dixieland Jass Band was approached to record was because Freddie Keppard turned down the offer. He refused to record because he was afraid other trumpeters would then have widespread access to his style of playing and copy it. He didn't stop to consider it would immortalize him in a significant way. But there were bands in New Orleans, playing that style.
You miss the unofficial history that precedes this Euro-centric report.
Thanks Adruma victoria! The idea behind this series (and "The Century Project" DVD) was to tell the story of the drum set, which begins in the US around 1865. For a history of the world's percussion that goes back much further, check out "Percussion Instruments and Their History" by James Blades.
Your information is very limited .