History of the Drumset - Part 8, 1929 - Classic Big Band Drumming
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- Опубліковано 26 січ 2014
- One of the most memorable years in history due to the stock market crash and the Great Depression, 1929 was a terrible time for many around the world. Fortunately, jazz music and the big band helped many get through these tough times.
In this 15-part series, Vic Firth and Daniel Glass will be looking at 100 years of drumming evolution. Learn about the key events and advancements that shaped the drumset we know and love today!
www.vicfirth.com/drumset-history
Visit the Vic Firth website today for an interactive timeline and hundreds of great photos cataloging the history of our instrument the drumset!
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This history of the drumset is such a great idea. Thank you Vic Firth and Daniel Glass.
Oh Yeah Daniel-Really good information for people like me-a horn player- trying to learn the entire history of all the instruments
in Jazz. The more i know about what came first, the easier it is to advance and appreciate the freedoms this gives to be able to
develop an informed persona. Thank you.
Around the 4:35 mark on this video, the hand held cymbals the drummer in the photo is holding are called "bock-a-da-bock" cymbals which were slightly larger than finger cymbals and around the same thickness giving them a ringing or popping sound when played. The best recorded examples of this are from the Louis Armstrong hot seven records such as "Fireworks", "West End Blues", "A Monday Date" with Zutty Singleton playing drums and traps. The hand held hi hat (sock cymbal) that Daniel refers to commonly were two 10" brass cymbal (relatively thin) mounted on a handle rather tongs, and operated in a similar motion to the low boy and high hat. A couple of the best recorded examples of this instrument are from Chick Webb's "Dog Bottom" from 1929 and "I Got Rhythm" recorded by Chick Webb in the mid '30s. Both can be found here on youtube.
I'm really digging this series!
The hi hat actually makes its first appearance in the late '20s. It was available in catalogues as early as 1928. You can see Duke Ellington's drummer Sonny Greer using the hi hat right here on youtube in the 1929 RKO short subject "Black & Tan Fantasy" as well as Freddie Crump using it in a 1928 Vitaphone Short with the Norman Thomas Quintette titled "Harlemania". Both can be viewed here on youtube. It is true that the hi hat did not really become an essential component of the drum set until the mid 1930s and of course by the late 1930s "Papa" Jo Jones was teaching us all how to use it.
I read somewhere that "high hat" cymbals were named because of their resemblance to a collapsed top hat - also known as a "high hat".
It took me 8 episodes to realize he was a lefty. lol
Chill out
@@calebamoore ?
Thanks , very informative, also good to see another lefty drum set up drummer. Im one of those rare ones too.
still love your work!!
Thank you Daniel that has answered the quetion
Magical for me
This is so cool! Really imformative and interesting
i love the ending :c
I keep forgetting the title of that song in the intro and outro... Hell I feel ashames right now
I need to remember it as well!!
I dig it.
What is the song in 6:03? The same song was used in the Chicago-style part of timeline. Is it an original of your Band, Daniel, or some old classic? I'd really like to hear the whole song.
IT-kone Thanks! It was an original created for the Century Project DVD. You can see the entire performance there. More info: danielglass.com/merchandise/
Does anyone happen to have transcription of the fast exert he plays near the end? I would really appreciate it thank you so much :D
VERY INFORMATIVE!! Thanks! I guess you cover the wood-block and cowbell in another Part! :-)
Yes, genuineuni the previous segment (#7) takes a closer look at traps and noisemakers in general.
Interesting.
Not many guys now can play that swing stuff.
Are those Aquarian vintage style heads on the kit ?..they sound so warm and punchy..I think i just might try them out..
You should - especially the Modern Vintage heads. They are the best calfskin replicants out there. Perfect for rock too.
Can you tell me what kind of China is that?
Anybody knows the band on 1:07 ?
Paul Whiteman and his orchestra.
Thanks a lot!
This Cat can Swing.....
Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a cymbal?
anybody knows the band on 1:30 ? thanks
Darude - Sandstorm
Guillermo Castaño it's bob crosby and his bob cats
Wow first comment in 2 years
“a real underground thing associated with mobsters and speakeasies, and was you know African American in origin” 😂😂 I know he didn’t mean it like that but this sounded hilarious 😂
Why does he refer to a drum set as opposed to it being a drum kit, I always thought it was a kit and have called it that for years
It's all the same, I've heard people say kits all the time, nowadays I might say either or, but I grew up saying "drum set" personally, and have noticed "drum kit" to be said more often by either non-drummers, wannabe drummers or newer drummers. But either way it means the same thing. Drum set, drum kit, drums, tubs, cans, skins, traps, shells, bongos, coconuts.... lol
In the earliest years of drum set playing, drummers cobbled together their gear from whatever was available - mainly marching bass drums, random snare drums, etc. In other words, drum SETS were not sold as complete units, because the concept itself was so new. As a result, the first commercially marketed drum sets were referred to as "kits" because - like other kits - they contained various items that you essentially assembled into one functional unit. Over time, the term "drum set" has become more common, but both terms are viable. Thanks for the question.
I'm British - and we tend to call it a 'kit' a lot more over here. It doesn't matter - people use drum set, too. I've heard some Americans (on youtube!) complain about the word 'kit' as if it is something you buy to do some 'Do It Yourself' job around the home. Maybe the word is used a bit differently in the US? Over here, a soldier's equipment is their 'kit' - football players wear their 'kit', whatever you need to do your job is your 'kit'... drums included.
SAHBfan Ive always called it a kit, same as the people in my area of the U.S. Dialects and word pronunciations differ depending on area of America. For example Soda Pop is called Soda everywhere else, but in the Northwest, North, and Northeast its called just, Pop.
50 year player here. Always a drum set to me and Bass drum. Hate kick drum.
poor guitarrist, even the doble bass is louther
I love this guy, but that jacket and shirt are just a terrible choice.
Like everyone, you are entitled to your opinion.
I think it looks great!
Is there a Website or pdf or book for this? I want to use this for a school work, but UA-cam Videos are not a reliable source for this... 🥲