List of drummers at 8:10 for copy/pasting: Warren "Baby" Dodds Arthur "Zutty" Singleton Joseph "Kaiser" Marshall Adolphe Paul Barbarin Earl Palmer Smokey Johnson Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste Jame N. Black Idris Muhammad Herlin Riley Shannon Powell Stanton Moore Arthur Latin II Brian Blade Jason Marsalis Geoff Clapp
Very helpful! I struggled to transcribe recordings of this era because of the recording quality, so I love it when anybody talks about legitimate techniques they used!
I remember the amazing Idris Muhammad came into our college here in London UK 20 years ago and showed us all this too! Told us of how it was played with a bass drum and a coat hanger back In his youth... boom cha boom cha boom cha’boo boooom.. cha boom cha boom cha boo’ shboom.... Happy times indeed! 1..3..1....& ..4 / ....3 ..1....& ..4 with back beat. Looking back I realise how in the short time we had, he wanted to give us a very musical and self sustaining rhythmical gift, rather than any particular display of complexity. It was his touch that made it move and once seen/heard was never forgotten. ( Idris Muhammad: Drum Solo-2000... on this video 30 seconds in he actually references it!)
When I think Nawlins drums, I think Johnny V. (John Vidacovich)... That cat is swingin, man. He plays with a melodic, rhythmic intensity and he just about dances as he plays. Compared to traditional drum set, it’s like listening to and watching a whole other instrument being played. Mentor to Stanton Moore, nuff said. Ziggy Modeliste baby... Can’t forget one of the funkiest men to pick up sticks. Love that New Orleans feel!
Nice rolls, nice feel, nice history lesson. did i say "nice"? I meant amazing. high tier quality playing here good sir. I also enjoy how you get to the point. Perfect lenghtnof explanation and incredibly impressive demonstration of the concept discussed therein. To sumarise my final review: excellent lesson and excellent drummer. I mean that, high quality shown here
If to slow down the "shimmy beat" even more, then it will be a march rhythm without accent on the "one". Thus, the "shimmy beat" is a lineal heir of the march.
Hey Quincy, great video! I watched your video on your PJJ solo transcription on Julia, and your kit sounded amazing! Can you do a video on drum tuning?
@@drumqtips I would love to get a set of Starclassic Maples or Starclassic Walnut/Birch in 12x16, 14 floor, 8x12--an "Elvin setup." I think it's cool that Tama is now offering the 12x16 bass drums.
You said that the up beat or backbeat came from early new orleans music But actually it was in military music for years before As far as I know, what ragtime and jazz drummers brought rhythmically “to the table” is the syncopation and swing feel (combining the straight European march with African feel and accents)
Thank you for your insight Uria. I definitely could have been clearer and gone more into depth with the history and the amalgamation of the different parts of New Orleans drumming. You are absolutely correct that New Orleans bands "ragged" or syncopated the straight military marches and added the BIG 4 to give a little more of a lilt. James Reese Europe is an important figure for doing this very thing with his bands. I know for that there was some element of an up beat already happening in some indigenous Brazilian music and African music. Also, I was trying to say is that all 4/4 American DRUMMING (with some exceptions, there's always exceptions!) mimics the WAY early New Orleans drummers created grooves and that element of upbeats with the splash cymbal (or hand claps) which morphed into what we now know as a backbeat on the snare drum is truly an American concept that can be heard in music anywhere in the world now. Pretty amazing. I definitely left a lot out of this lesson because I was speaking off the cuff but thank you for checking it out and raising your point.
It's from the mix of The early New Orleans military Bands and the influence if the Afro-Carribbean synchopated beats of Congo Square bro and Afro-Cuban Claves..So it still is an infusion of the cultures but New Orleans is where that infusions of the European marching and military bands, met the syncopated beats of Congo Square, the blues, ragtime, spirituals, French quadrilles ,biguine with collective polyrthmic improvesations..It's still is New Orleans Jazz at its root bro..😉👌🏽..
List of drummers at 8:10 for copy/pasting:
Warren "Baby" Dodds
Arthur "Zutty" Singleton
Joseph "Kaiser" Marshall
Adolphe Paul Barbarin
Earl Palmer
Smokey Johnson
Joseph "Zigaboo" Modeliste
Jame N. Black
Idris Muhammad
Herlin Riley
Shannon Powell
Stanton Moore
Arthur Latin II
Brian Blade
Jason Marsalis
Geoff Clapp
Awesome!
Add Johnny Vidacovich to this list... Great list, though. Brian Blade is a beautiful beast!
GREAT history. NOLA so vital to western music, and for everything we do on the drum set. Thank you, Quincy, and cheers.
Glad you enjoyed this one Chucky!
yes! Billy Hart nailed this idea into my head and i've never been the same :) subscribed !
Oh yeah! He's the part of the reason I know any of this. Love Billy!
Very helpful! I struggled to transcribe recordings of this era because of the recording quality, so I love it when anybody talks about legitimate techniques they used!
Great to hear Chris!
Big fan from México! putting all of these concepts to work
Great to hear Omar!!
Thank you for this!
Glad it was helpful!
This is great! Thanks for the closer look into 2nd line!
Lovely playing and well explained, thank you.
Great tutorial. Thanks much!
Thanks!...👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
That was great Quincy! Thanks!!
Thanks well done Q
I thought this would be about Zigaboo Modeliste. Still good info.
Love your channel thankyou for your teaching
So nice of you Bob. Thank you:)
Thank a lot from France !...That's bossa clave on snare drum...!
Exactly! I should have mentioned that. Great observation Joel.
I remember the amazing Idris Muhammad came into our college here in London UK 20 years ago and showed us all this too! Told us of how it was played with a bass drum and a coat hanger back In his youth... boom cha boom cha boom cha’boo boooom.. cha boom cha boom cha boo’ shboom.... Happy times indeed! 1..3..1....& ..4 / ....3 ..1....& ..4 with back beat. Looking back I realise how in the short time we had, he wanted to give us a very musical and self sustaining rhythmical gift, rather than any particular display of complexity. It was his touch that made it move and once seen/heard was never forgotten. ( Idris Muhammad: Drum Solo-2000... on this video 30 seconds in he actually references it!)
Beautiful! He was a true master!!
Idris is an inspiration. Was like a booster shot of N’orleans groove into pop, funk, disco and mostly Jazz. His playing feels amazing.
When I think Nawlins drums, I think Johnny V. (John Vidacovich)... That cat is swingin, man. He plays with a melodic, rhythmic intensity and he just about dances as he plays. Compared to traditional drum set, it’s like listening to and watching a whole other instrument being played. Mentor to Stanton Moore, nuff said. Ziggy Modeliste baby... Can’t forget one of the funkiest men to pick up sticks. Love that New Orleans feel!
Nice rolls, nice feel, nice history lesson. did i say "nice"? I meant amazing. high tier quality playing here good sir. I also enjoy how you get to the point. Perfect lenghtnof explanation and incredibly impressive demonstration of the concept discussed therein. To sumarise my final review: excellent lesson and excellent drummer. I mean that, high quality shown here
Thank you kindly Brian! Glad you enjoyed the lesson.
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my number one. No doubt.
If to slow down the "shimmy beat" even more, then it will be a march rhythm without accent on the "one". Thus, the "shimmy beat" is a lineal heir of the march.
What a great video. 👍
Thank you Alan.
Hey Quincy, great video! I watched your video on your PJJ solo transcription on Julia, and your kit sounded amazing! Can you do a video on drum tuning?
Great! Thanks!
3:50
Where are the Tama Starclassics? I'd love to hear your playing on that kit!
Still waiting for them to arrive!
@@drumqtips I would love to get a set of Starclassic Maples or Starclassic Walnut/Birch in 12x16, 14 floor, 8x12--an "Elvin setup." I think it's cool that Tama is now offering the 12x16 bass drums.
You said that the up beat or backbeat came from early new orleans music
But actually it was in military music for years before
As far as I know, what ragtime and jazz drummers brought rhythmically “to the table” is the syncopation and swing feel (combining the straight European march with African feel and accents)
Thank you for your insight Uria. I definitely could have been clearer and gone more into depth with the history and the amalgamation of the different parts of New Orleans drumming. You are absolutely correct that New Orleans bands "ragged" or syncopated the straight military marches and added the BIG 4 to give a little more of a lilt. James Reese Europe is an important figure for doing this very thing with his bands. I know for that there was some element of an up beat already happening in some indigenous Brazilian music and African music. Also, I was trying to say is that all 4/4 American DRUMMING (with some exceptions, there's always exceptions!) mimics the WAY early New Orleans drummers created grooves and that element of upbeats with the splash cymbal (or hand claps) which morphed into what we now know as a backbeat on the snare drum is truly an American concept that can be heard in music anywhere in the world now. Pretty amazing.
I definitely left a lot out of this lesson because I was speaking off the cuff but thank you for checking it out and raising your point.
Quincy Davis thank you for all the great videos!
It's from the mix of The early New Orleans military Bands and the influence if the Afro-Carribbean synchopated beats of Congo Square bro and Afro-Cuban Claves..So it still is an infusion of the cultures but New Orleans is where that infusions of the European marching and military bands, met the syncopated beats of Congo Square, the blues, ragtime, spirituals, French quadrilles ,biguine with collective polyrthmic improvesations..It's still is New Orleans Jazz at its root bro..😉👌🏽..
James Black;one of the most unheralded jazz drummers and composers of all time.
Absolutely Alan!
LOL...everybody's shimmy falls short compared to Baby Dodds's...
Vid of Baby Dodds: ua-cam.com/video/TnqKwfU9S1M/v-deo.htmlsi=JbwDsK885GAKsNp8
EVERYONE'S shimmy fell short of Mr. Baby Dodds' shimmy. lol
@@drumqtips😂 🙌🏻