Perfect timing, i'm expecting my jf 20-21 in the next 3-4 days. Thank you for your review of the cue, it was the only one i found. I would love to see Thailand some day, if it ever happens i'll definitely look you up. Have a great day.
I ordered a cue from JFlowers based on your reviews, so watching this video made me feel like I made the right choice! Thanks for posting this. Looking forward to hitting some banks with my new cue.
Im glad you made another video! I checked your channel last night again to make sure I'm not missing notifications. Thought you up and disappeared on us. Love the videos man! You helped me choose my Jflowers cue :)
I’ve got a few cues that I’ve collected over the years but I have never actually bought one.After watching a few people making reviews on this cue seems to be pretty solid. thanks for your videos and good luck on your journey in Thailand wish you the best.
@@CueListings no problem glad to see you back and upcomming reviews. So how to get in contact for your resort? would love to come by and check it all out
I just ordered a JF10-11WF with carbon fiber shaft thanks to watching some of your vids. Have been playing for many many years with not much better than bar quality cues and finally decided to step up to a better cue. I had never heard of JFlowers before and seeing what the prices of carbon fiber shafts from other brands are this makes for a great transition to the better cue world. Thanks for the vids!
@@Mark-bb9qx Love it! I did have to spray the threads with dry lube to make it easier to screw and unscrew together which helped immensely. Without it I almost couldn't get them to seat together. Other than that I have been very happy with it.
Got the Jf 20-21 last year because the Jf 20-03rf or bf we’re always back ordered. Great cue and very happy with it. Mine is the inlay cue. Ended up getting their break cue as well. I’m a believer in their cues.
Love this! I remember your early J Flowers video is what made my friend buy one... then I tried it and had to get one for myself. Fast forward to today, the players in my local Chicago pool hall mostly have these brands: Cognoscenti (High end custom maker in Chicago), Predator, and J Flowers lol. I think I counted 4 J Flowers cues last time I was there. Recently I bought a Mezz CP21MD wi/ignite (thanks to your review and Billiard's corner video), but had a J flowers shaft tapped to fit the Mezz. I'm going to test that out later, but so far the balance is the same. If the performance is the same, I don't see any reason to ever get another CF shaft brand again lol.
Wellcome back! I'm allways pleased to see production of everything and seems that you captured allmost every little step of making a cue. Good job. Can they make longer butt and longer shaft?
I could say about 90% of good quality cues are either made or outsourced from China cause they have an abundance of very good quality wood like maple. You could even buy 3A-5A blanks there. Even if you're buying a cue that is overlay, you still get a very good maple core. For example, I have a Fury cue worth $150 and had a cuemaker stripped the overlay and put a re-finish on it cuz I want it to look natural knowing it is good maple underneath it. To my surprise, when I got my cue back the maple they used was a birds eye maple. My cuemaker was also surprised and told me that it was such a waste they put overlay on it..
Nice location to move to man, congrats! Aha, so that is the reason they are able to sell the lower-end priced cues that cheap, outlay...not that it makes any difference, i agree with yu completely. Its a pity though, the JF10 - 10F looks so nice, finding out that its just a sticker is a bit disappointing, but i stil want one...i hope to be able to take a trip to Th in the new year, would love to stay at your resort, the immages of it looked great, nice swimming pool. All the best from the flips!
About the Lizard Wrap - Did something change with the lizard wrap? I purchase a JFlowers cue and my lizard wrap doesn't look anything like the wrap that's shown in the video. Look more like a lizard stripe wrap.
I just bought my first carbon fiber cue from jflowers and I can say "I'm glad I did" thanks to you! Anyway is there a direct website for jflowers? (Not the US website) because I heard there are more cue options. I was wondering if you know about this.
I think that j flowers cues are gonna be in the finest cues in the world in the next 10 years from now....simply they can make cues that cost thousands of dollars in the same quality as a 400 dollars....or so..and i be true here why not?...i own the dante cue and it is one of the best best cuew i ever play with .. to honest ...and the reason is that all parts almosts in the cue are build in the cnc machinery so ..no mistakes in the maths..
Wait wtf go back.. you said you just moved to Thailand and opened up a resort? Thats insane how do you even do something like that? That seems insane and exciting at the sametime congratulations.. what did you do for a living to mass a wealth like that? Also i appreciate your videos even that much more because you dont have to be making these videos but its obviously something you enjoy so thank you for all your time and effort.. also your an amazing pool player maybe you can give lessons now..
Hi Nick! Thank for you for the kind words about the videos. You are absolutely right! I really enjoy making the videos. I started making them after staying away from pool 20+ years, and when I got back I found it really (!) difficult to find my way in the equipment jungle. When it comes to lessons, I'll leave that to @Sharivari and @LilChris :)
flowers goes by so many names ... when I recevied a carbon fiber cue stick that was warped out of the box.. the butt and ferrel do not match up.. I tried to work with their customer service and they refused to replace the stick immediately.. NEVER will I buy anything from that company again. NEVER!
Well then you are lucky they sent you a cue that exactly weight as ordered. I got one that was completely out of balance very butt heavy and not the weight I ordered. I ordered 19 ounce got 19.2 ounce. But with a butt heavy as 15.6 ounce which is way to much for a 19 ounce cue. So be warned when onderring at this company they will not solve the issue best you can get is get your money back, but then they do not want you anymore as customer. You have to accept the cue as is. If you are a serious player I advise stay away from this. They said to me their butts and shafts all have different weights and get combined to be roughly the weight you order. So If you are lucky the cue has good balance or very bad if you are not.
Wow! The craftsmanship looks exceptional. I’m impressed with their factory as well. My next cue will probably be a JFlowers.
Perfect timing, i'm expecting my jf 20-21 in the next 3-4 days. Thank you for your review of the cue, it was the only one i found. I would love to see Thailand some day, if it ever happens i'll definitely look you up. Have a great day.
Nice timing! :D And yes..please look me up if you make the trip!
I ordered a cue from JFlowers based on your reviews, so watching this video made me feel like I made the right choice! Thanks for posting this. Looking forward to hitting some banks with my new cue.
Im glad you made another video! I checked your channel last night again to make sure I'm not missing notifications. Thought you up and disappeared on us. Love the videos man! You helped me choose my Jflowers cue :)
Thanks, Edwin! Your feedback is much appreciated!
I’ve got a few cues that I’ve collected over the years but I have never actually bought one.After watching a few people making reviews on this cue seems to be pretty solid. thanks for your videos and good luck on your journey in Thailand wish you the best.
Thank you! Hit me up if you are ever going to Thailand!
This was insightful. Nice to see the behind the scenes of a cue build. Thanks👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it
FINALLY you back its been too long! gonna watch it now
Soooorrrrry :D
@@CueListings no problem glad to see you back and upcomming reviews. So how to get in contact for your resort? would love to come by and check it all out
@@djorodekort3395 Just hit me up at the Cue Listings FB profile :)
I just ordered a JF10-11WF with carbon fiber shaft thanks to watching some of your vids. Have been playing for many many years with not much better than bar quality cues and finally decided to step up to a better cue. I had never heard of JFlowers before and seeing what the prices of carbon fiber shafts from other brands are this makes for a great transition to the better cue world. Thanks for the vids!
I have one myself. How do you like it?
@@Mark-bb9qx Love it! I did have to spray the threads with dry lube to make it easier to screw and unscrew together which helped immensely. Without it I almost couldn't get them to seat together. Other than that I have been very happy with it.
Hoping to see something like this from Konlleen. Great stuff!
Look at 6:00. That is a KL-12F they are making. JFlowers also makes some Konllen cues.
Got the Jf 20-21 last year because the Jf 20-03rf or bf we’re always back ordered. Great cue and very happy with it. Mine is the inlay cue. Ended up getting their break cue as well. I’m a believer in their cues.
Did your butt and shaft text line up (you see the engraving of the words JFlowers and JFS)
Welcome back!
I would really appreciate if you could do a jflowers SABER 2 cue review😁
I'll check it out!
@@CueListings thank you for your fast answer!
Love this! I remember your early J Flowers video is what made my friend buy one... then I tried it and had to get one for myself. Fast forward to today, the players in my local Chicago pool hall mostly have these brands: Cognoscenti (High end custom maker in Chicago), Predator, and J Flowers lol. I think I counted 4 J Flowers cues last time I was there. Recently I bought a Mezz CP21MD wi/ignite (thanks to your review and Billiard's corner video), but had a J flowers shaft tapped to fit the Mezz. I'm going to test that out later, but so far the balance is the same. If the performance is the same, I don't see any reason to ever get another CF shaft brand again lol.
It's cool to keep hearing this over and over. I remember when I "discovered" JFlowers..I was SO pleasantly surprised!
Where is your resort? I live in Pattaya, I'll stop in for a look and maybe a game. Good video BTW 👍
Wellcome back! I'm allways pleased to see production of everything and seems that you captured allmost every little step of making a cue. Good job. Can they make longer butt and longer shaft?
Thank you, sir! Yes, they can make any length, but mainly they are focusing on "standard" lengths and tip sizes in this phase,
Thank you, nice video!
Thanks, Lester!
What's a good cue at the present time since the video is 2 years old
I could say about 90% of good quality cues are either made or outsourced from China cause they have an abundance of very good quality wood like maple. You could even buy 3A-5A blanks there. Even if you're buying a cue that is overlay, you still get a very good maple core. For example, I have a Fury cue worth $150 and had a cuemaker stripped the overlay and put a re-finish on it cuz I want it to look natural knowing it is good maple underneath it. To my surprise, when I got my cue back the maple they used was a birds eye maple. My cuemaker was also surprised and told me that it was such a waste they put overlay on it..
Nice location to move to man, congrats!
Aha, so that is the reason they are able to sell the lower-end priced cues that cheap, outlay...not that it makes any difference, i agree with yu completely. Its a pity though, the JF10 - 10F looks so nice, finding out that its just a sticker is a bit disappointing, but i stil want one...i hope to be able to take a trip to Th in the new year, would love to stay at your resort, the immages of it looked great, nice swimming pool.
All the best from the flips!
Do you know what is the code for cue on minute 6:00? It looks simple yet premium😮
it looks like the leather wrap that you can get on the jf10
Is this an advertisement for Pattaya Thailand?
Omg this cue case at the final😮😮😮
I'm still waiting for my order, that I place over a 6wks ago,. Does it really take 2 mo to get a cue
I'm guessing you ordered a cue on backorder then. Normally they deliver in days...
What is the name of your resort?
Can you make a pearl white cue stick
what is the difference why some j flowers cues have different logos at the bottom of the butt. Some have JFS, JF, and JFCUE. Are they all legit?
About the Lizard Wrap - Did something change with the lizard wrap? I purchase a JFlowers cue and my lizard wrap doesn't look anything like the wrap that's shown in the video. Look more like a lizard stripe wrap.
I know they changed to a higher-grade leather. Perhaps that altered the look slightly?
I just bought my first carbon fiber cue from jflowers and I can say "I'm glad I did" thanks to you! Anyway is there a direct website for jflowers? (Not the US website) because I heard there are more cue options. I was wondering if you know about this.
Congrats! Best to stick with www.jflowerscues.com
I notice that you talk so much about the "factory made", but, Cuetec and Predator are artisanal made?
Thx for sharing
My pleasure. Keep up your own great work!
Do you have a discount code for their cues?
Not currently, but prices might go up soon..
Dude!!! You’re going to do a review on the Pechauer Rogue and the Whyte Carbon?!?!?!? Please let us know!!!!!!
Coming up!
I liked your film clip
Really cool. I'd like to see them doing leather work
You and me both!
Where is jflowers made?
I think that j flowers cues are gonna be in the finest cues in the world in the next 10 years from now....simply they can make cues that cost thousands of dollars in the same quality as a 400 dollars....or so..and i be true here why not?...i own the dante cue and it is one of the best best cuew i ever play with .. to honest ...and the reason is that all parts almosts in the cue are build in the cnc machinery so ..no mistakes in the maths..
And where is this factory? China?
Yes, the factory is in China.
Wait wtf go back.. you said you just moved to Thailand and opened up a resort? Thats insane how do you even do something like that? That seems insane and exciting at the sametime congratulations.. what did you do for a living to mass a wealth like that? Also i appreciate your videos even that much more because you dont have to be making these videos but its obviously something you enjoy so thank you for all your time and effort.. also your an amazing pool player maybe you can give lessons now..
Hi Nick! Thank for you for the kind words about the videos. You are absolutely right! I really enjoy making the videos. I started making them after staying away from pool 20+ years, and when I got back I found it really (!) difficult to find my way in the equipment jungle. When it comes to lessons, I'll leave that to @Sharivari and @LilChris :)
JFlowers factory looks legit....Pattaya and pool why not 5555?!
Spot on!
It’s 110 thousand square feet not square meters. If it were meters they would have a bigger building than Amazon.
flowers goes by so many names ... when I recevied a carbon fiber cue stick that was warped out of the box.. the butt and ferrel do not match up.. I tried to work with their customer service and they refused to replace the stick immediately.. NEVER will I buy anything from that company again. NEVER!
Sounds to me you’ve bought a Konllen (copy cat)
Well then you are lucky they sent you a cue that exactly weight as ordered. I got one that was completely out of balance very butt heavy and not the weight I ordered. I ordered 19 ounce got 19.2 ounce. But with a butt heavy as 15.6 ounce which is way to much for a 19 ounce cue.
So be warned when onderring at this company they will not solve the issue best you can get is get your money back, but then they do not want you anymore as customer. You have to accept the cue as is. If you are a serious player I advise stay away from this. They said to me their butts and shafts all have different weights and get combined to be roughly the weight you order. So If you are lucky the cue has good balance or very bad if you are not.
these are machine made pool cues..no different than a copier machine pass!
Can anyone tell me what they use to make the stock if the cue is shiny and nice to grip? Thank you
I was waiting for you this hole time.
We will definitly Check you out. Super Video as always.
Can i contact you via E-Mail?
Thank you! You can reach me at the Cue Listings FB page.