The Birth of Tragedy by Friedrich Nietzsche - Full Audiobook

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  • The Birth of Tragedy: Hellenism and Pessimism
    by Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
    read by Keegan Kjeldsen, host of The Nietzsche Podcast
    Using the translation by Walter Kaufmann
    Check out the podcast on Spotify and Anchor, where you can find my breakdown of the entire text and readalong analysis in eight parts! Here's the first episode of that series, covering the preface: open.spotify.c...
    #nietzsche #audiobook #philosophy #ancientgreece #history #ancienthistory #religion #psychology #schopenhauer #socrates #homer #sophocles

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  • @bboschboi
    @bboschboi Рік тому +61

    You should be paid for this work, you have a better voice than most audiobook narrators I've heard.

  • @Orgotheonemancult
    @Orgotheonemancult 11 місяців тому +26

    Starts at 31:51

  • @zenden6564
    @zenden6564 Рік тому +16

    Thankyou Keegan, over 5 hours of beautifully read material, a labour of love. I was always intrigued by this early important work of Nietzsche. What an epic exploration your Nietzsche journey is!

  • @cheri238
    @cheri238 Рік тому +7

    Keenan, I have never heard Nietzche's book, "The Birth of Tragedy," read on an audio recording before.
    I must applaud you for the immense pleasure of listening to your voice which brings joy as I read along with you. What a flow of words Nietzche wrote of amazing words of old giants of writers and philosophers.
    I have acquired books from my papa of many novels, history, religion, science, and philosophy books that I have read for years since a child. Nietzche's writings are some of my favorites.
    With the deepest appreciation and respect for you doing this for all to hear.
    Also, I have listened to you for all these hours non-stop Nietzche's writing "The Birth of Tragedy."
    Nietzche's writings I Iaugh with throughout, for Nietzche could never be boring.
    A mind of great intelligence that never stopped growing and enquiring, until the tragic end due to his health and mental problems took him away at the end of his remarkable life of education.
    1858 begins his studies at Pforta, Germany's most famous school
    for education in the classics.
    1864 graduates fromPforta with a list in Latin on the Greek poet Theognis; enters the University of Bonn as a theology student.
    I can go down the list of where he attended, henceforth it would take too long.
    1872 his first book, The Birth of Tragedy; its dictatory preference to Richar Wagner for art the role of 'the highest task and truly metaphysical activity of this life'; devastating reviews follow.

  • @AGamer1177
    @AGamer1177 Рік тому +11

    '...I am convinced that art represents the highest task and the truly metaphysical activity of this life...'
    If there was a more sublime quotation to me in Nietzsche's writings, I haven't found it yet.

  • @dionysian222
    @dionysian222 Рік тому +4

    Thank you for the great narration that gives the text life. You deserve a huge audience!

  • @Rhimeson
    @Rhimeson Рік тому +5

    You have a very listenable reading voice, much appreciated Keegan👍

  • @sb5421
    @sb5421 2 місяці тому +1

    Very thankful for this, very well read.

  • @noahpatton4632
    @noahpatton4632 Рік тому +4

    Thank you, this is so much better read than the others on UA-cam.

  • @Jkayemusic
    @Jkayemusic 6 днів тому

    You the man! Love your break downs and voice acting might be a good side gig for ya... If I wasn't broke I'd pay you for this work!

  • @neilmyersart
    @neilmyersart Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much for this great recording ❤️

  • @rachelmosher3853
    @rachelmosher3853 10 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for recording and posting this! I’m taking a class on Nietzsche right now and I’ve really struggled understanding what he’s trying to say. But this really helps, thank you!

  • @ryanrohn4561
    @ryanrohn4561 Рік тому +3

    I have a fantastical thought: I wonder if Nietzsche and Jung have met in the afterlife and engage in philosophical, psychological based conversations.

  • @banquotheholstein
    @banquotheholstein Рік тому +4

    Wow! I appreciate your dedication and the ways you have added to the understanding of Nietzsche, thank you for all that you do.

  • @gingerbreadzak
    @gingerbreadzak 7 місяців тому +1

    00:32 📜 Friedrich Nietzsche wrote "The Birth of Tragedy" during the Franco-Prussian War of 1870-71, exploring the value of existence, pessimism, and the Greeks.
    02:20 🤔 Nietzsche questions whether pessimism signifies decline or strength and whether there's a fear-based desire for scientific analysis.
    05:10 📚 Nietzsche's book is marked by youthful energy, psychological innovations, and an artistic metaphysics, addressing science's role as a symptom of life.
    07:29 🎨 Nietzsche suggests that life's true meaning lies in aesthetics and art, challenging traditional morality and Christianity.
    14:46 ⚖ Nietzsche questions whether morality might actually be a will to negate life, expressing deep hostility towards conventional morality.
    25:52 🐉 Nietzsche envisions a future generation that rejects optimism, embracing a heroic pursuit of life's fullness and wholeness.
    26:17 🎭 Tragic individuals in a culture may desire a new art of metaphysical comfort to cope with seriousness and terror.
    27:11 😄 Before seeking metaphysical comfort, one should first learn the art of worldly comfort and laughter.
    28:07 💃 Zarathustra, a symbol of laughter and lightness, encourages people to raise their hearts and learn to laugh.
    31:57 🎨 Art represents the highest task and the truly metaphysical activity of life, according to Nietzsche.
    33:05 🎭 The Greek art world had contrasting apollonian (dreams) and dionysian (intoxication) artistic energies, both rooted in nature.
    43:02 🕺 In dionysian states, individuals experience a sense of unity with others and nature, becoming a work of art themselves.
    48:57 🕊 The reconciliation between Apollo and Dionysus marked an important moment in Greek culture, defining their respective boundaries and leading to periodic exchanges of gifts.
    50:37 🎶 Music transitioned from an Apollonian art to a Dionysian one, embracing emotional power, melody, harmony, and symbolism.
    55:19 🤯 King Midas' encounter with Silenus illustrates the futility of human existence, suggesting it's better not to be born.
    59:52 🌿 The Greeks longed for unity with nature and considered dying young a tragedy.
    01:00:04 🏞 Naïve art, characterized by a harmonious connection with nature, was a result of Apollonian culture.
    01:03:07 🌌 Dreams are seen as valuable illusions, providing redemption through appearance in the face of suffering.
    01:07:01 📜 Apollo represents measure and self-knowledge, contrasting with excess and pride as hostile forces.
    01:09:47 🎶 The Dionysian influence disrupted the Apollonian order, introducing ecstatic and truthful elements in art.
    01:11:10 🏛 The interplay of Apollonian and Dionysian forces shaped Greek culture, leading to various artistic periods.
    01:13:23 📜 Homer and Archilochus symbolize the contrasting Apollonian and Dionysian influences on Greek poetry.

  • @legendofachilles
    @legendofachilles Рік тому +1

    It's strange to behold this sight...something that's unrivaled on the planet when it comes to Nietzsche's thought, and as yet not known to the planet.

  • @gingerbreadzak
    @gingerbreadzak 7 місяців тому +1

    01:14:18 🎭 Aesthetics must solve the problem of how the lyricist is possible as an artist, bridging the gap between subjective experience and objective art.
    01:16:50 🎶 The lyricist, as a Dionysian artist, identifies with the Primal Unity and expresses it through music, revealing it as symbolic dream imagery.
    01:17:47 🎭 The lyricist's passionate expressions are not just personal, but they embody archetypal forces like Dionysus, making them symbolic and universal.
    01:20:55 🎼 Folk songs are seen as the musical mirror of the world, expressing both Apollonian and Dionysian elements, and reflecting the influence of dionysian currents in society.
    01:31:18 🎵 Lyric poetry imitates music and expresses the essence of music as the will, bridging the gap between aesthetic contemplation and active passion.
    01:34:05 🎶 Music's cosmic symbolism goes beyond language and cannot be fully captured by words, making it a profound and ineffable art form.
    01:35:12 🎭 Tragedy's origin is closely linked to the tragic chorus, with its religious roots, and not necessarily as a representation of political or democratic ideals.
    01:36:46 🎭 Friedrich Nietzsche challenges the idea of an ideal spectator in tragedy, arguing that it differs from the historical tradition.
    01:38:38 🎭 Nietzsche explains how Schlegel's concept of the ideal spectator in tragedy diverges from the traditional view of an aesthetic audience.
    01:39:07 🎭 Nietzsche questions whether an artistic genre can be extracted from the concept of the spectator alone, emphasizing the importance of spectacle in theater.
    01:40:05 🎭 Nietzsche discusses Schiller's idea of the chorus as a living wall in tragedy, preserving its ideal domain and freedom from reality.
    01:41:43 🎭 Nietzsche explores the significance of the satyr chorus in Greek tragedy and its role in comforting humanity in the face of suffering and reality.
    01:44:16 🎭 Nietzsche delves into how art provides comfort and a sense of unity with nature, contrasting this with a disillusioned view of existence.
    01:45:37 🎭 Nietzsche discusses how knowledge can lead to inaction and how art helps individuals cope with the horror and absurdity of existence.
    01:49:13 🎭 Nietzsche contrasts the truth of nature with the false reality of culture, similar to the contrast between the thing-in-itself and appearances.
    01:50:10 🎭 Nietzsche describes the transformation of the dionysian man into a satyr and how it relates to the origins of drama and dramatic art.
    01:52:56 🎭 Nietzsche explains that a poet's ability lies in seeing and interacting with vivid mental images, and dramatic art emerges from this magic transformation.
    01:57:07 🎭 Nietzsche defines Greek tragedy as the dionysian chorus generating a visionary world while the scene represents apollonian redemption and appearance.
    01:58:45 🎭 Nietzsche reveals that the tragic chorus in Greek theater is the primary reality, generating the vision of the drama and serving Dionysus.
    01:59:13 🎭 Tragedy originally revolved around the suffering and wisdom of Dionysus, the god of wine and ecstasy.
    02:00:20 🕺 Drama evolved from the dithyrambic chorus to represent the god Dionysus and his visionary figure on stage.
    02:01:30 🗣 Greek tragedy had two opposing styles: Dionysian lyrics of the chorus and Apollonian dialogues.
    02:03:37 🎭 Greek cheerfulness is not about comfort but the idea that suffering can lead to blessings and transformation.
    02:04:57 🤔 Sophocles portrayed Oedipus as a noble figure whose suffering brings about a higher magical circle of effects.
    02:09:13 🌟 Prometheus symbolizes the pride of the artist and the ability to defy the gods through wisdom and creativity.
    02:14:28 😢 The Aryan notion of evil is rooted in sacrilege, and suffering is the consequence of challenging divine laws.
    02:16:03 🌊 The Dionysian impulse defies boundaries and individuation, carrying individuals on a broad back, akin to Atlas carrying the Earth.
    02:18:41 🎭 Greek tragedy often featured Dionysus as the true tragic hero, with other famous figures as mere masks of the god.
    02:21:51 🌌 This view provides the elements of a profound and pessimistic worldview, emphasizing the Oneness of existence and the hope for the end of individuation.

    • @sb5421
      @sb5421 Місяць тому

      You are a madman. I love you.

  • @gingerbreadzak
    @gingerbreadzak 7 місяців тому +1

    04:09:42 🎭 Tragedy played a significant role in the cultural development of ancient Greece, serving as a bridge between the Dionysian and Apollonian aspects of their civilization.
    04:12:38 🎵 The Opera, as an art form, has a parasitic origin and draws from true art (music). It risks degenerating into a distracting diversion rather than preserving the profound truths of Dionysian and Apollonian aspects.
    04:19:11 🇩🇪 The German spirit has shown a unique capacity to embrace Dionysian elements in music, exemplified by composers like Bach, Beethoven, and Wagner. This spirit, distinct from Socratic culture, is both inexplicable and hostile to it.
    04:22:27 📚 German philosophy and music, influenced by Dionysian elements, have brought about a new form of existence marked by profound ethical and artistic considerations.
    04:25:59 🌟 The resurgence of tragedy and the Dionysian spirit in modern times offers hope for a renewal and purification of the German spirit through the power of music.
    04:28:46 🍷 Tragedy, as an art form, was a vital part of Greek culture, providing a balance between Dionysian ecstasy and political instincts, making it possible for Greeks to avoid extremes and achieve a noble harmony.
    04:31:06 🎭 Music and myth in tragedy: Nietzsche discusses how music and myth work together in tragedy to create a profound emotional experience.
    04:32:00 🎶 Music's role in perception: Nietzsche asks if one can perceive a symphonic movement like the third act of Tristan and Isolde purely through music without words or images.
    04:35:38 🌊 Dionysian and Apollonian elements: Nietzsche explores how the Dionysian and Apollonian elements interact in tragedy, creating a complex emotional experience for the audience.
    04:40:10 🤔 Music and drama: Nietzsche discusses the relationship between music and drama in tragedy, highlighting how music enhances the perception of the stage.
    04:44:56 🎭 Tragedy as aesthetic play: Nietzsche challenges the idea that tragedy primarily prompts moral and emotional responses, suggesting it can be appreciated purely as aesthetic play.
    04:51:50 🗣 Degeneration of art discourse: Nietzsche laments the decline of meaningful discourse about art and culture, highlighting the shallow and unoriginal nature of aesthetic criticism.
    04:52:58 🎭 Nietzsche discusses how people's acceptance of miracles in theater can reveal their connection to myth and culture.
    04:54:09 🏛 Myth is essential for culture, creativity, and even the state, providing unwritten laws and a connection to religion.
    04:55:34 🧐 The modern age's feverish culture and insatiable desire for knowledge point to the loss of myth and its mythical foundation.
    04:57:24 🌟 Nietzsche sees hope in the German character's intrinsic mythic power, awaiting a reawakening.
    05:03:27 🎶 Nietzsche explores the Apollonian illusion and dionysian music's role in tragedy, revealing the metaphysical aspect of art.
    05:05:02 🤔 Nietzsche delves into the aesthetic pleasure of the tragic myth, which lies beyond pity, fear, or moral sublime.
    05:09:23 🎵 Nietzsche connects the joy of the tragic myth to musical dissonance and the metaphysical nature of art.
    05:11:51 🌄 Despite the German spirit's degradation, Nietzsche hopes for its awakening and a return to its dionysian myth.
    05:13:19 🎶 Both music and tragic myth are expressions of a people's dionysian capacity, transfiguring and playing with displeasure.

  • @ZagreusoftheDesert
    @ZagreusoftheDesert 10 місяців тому +2

    Should really do all his books . You sound like what I imagine Zarathustra sounds like

    • @bal_masque
      @bal_masque Місяць тому

      I agree, though he should do them chronologically, so Thus Spoke Zarathustra might take a while to be read to.

  • @gingerbreadzak
    @gingerbreadzak 7 місяців тому +1

    03:26:44 🎶 Aesthetic concepts of beauty influenced by degenerate art demand similar effects from music, leading to the exploration of the essence of Greek tragedy.
    03:27:51 📚 Schopenhauer's idea that music is a universal language, expressing the inmost soul of phenomena, and its role as a commentary on events.
    03:29:00 🎶 Music's unique ability to represent metaphysical aspects, making it an immediate copy of the will itself.
    03:30:10 🎨 Music's power to imbue significance into paintings, scenes, and life events, even when they don't visually resemble each other.
    03:31:32 🎼 Music's capacity to relate to visual representations and create an analogy between the two, provided it's not a conscious imitation by means of concepts.
    03:34:34 🎭 Music's role in giving birth to tragic myths, expressing Dionysian knowledge and symbols, and the connection between music and tragedy.
    03:35:29 🌟 The annihilation of the hero in tragedy signifies the eternal aspect of Dionysian art, beyond individual existence.
    03:37:06 🌍 The message of Dionysian art: finding eternal joy behind the ceaseless flux of phenomena.
    03:38:30 🎭 Greek tragedy's birth rooted in the spirit of music, with a profound significance that may have been lost in translation.
    03:42:13 🧪 The conflict between the Dionysian myth and the spirit of science, which led to the decline of myth and poetry in ancient Greece.
    03:45:11 🎵 The degeneration of music in the new dithyramb, becoming a mere imitation of phenomena, resulting in the loss of its mythic power.
    03:46:18 🎭 The shift towards character representation and psychological refinement in Greek tragedy, driven by a preference for scientific knowledge over universal myth.
    03:47:55 🎶 The dwindling influence of music in Greek tragedy, leading to the quest for an earthly resolution of tragic dissonance through mundane rewards for the hero.
    03:48:09 🌟 The search for metaphysical comfort in tragedy, now challenged by the absence of the Dionysian spirit and music.
    03:48:24 🎭 Nietzsche describes the intrusion of undynician spirit, leading the tragic world to flee from art into a secret cult.
    03:49:06 🤔 Nietzsche contrasts the Greek cheerfulness with earlier Greek naivete, emphasizing the wisdom of suffering and the alexandrian culture's emphasis on knowledge and science.
    03:50:30 🔮 Nietzsche discusses how different illusions, like the love of knowledge, art, and metaphysical comfort, keep individuals chained to life despite its challenges.
    03:54:10 💥 Nietzsche warns about the potential consequences of the alexandrian culture's optimism, emphasizing the need for a slave class and the danger of societal agitations.
    03:56:59 🧠 Nietzsche mentions Kant and Schopenhauer's victories in challenging the optimistic view of science's universal validity and the illusory notion of fathoming the essence of things.
    03:57:41 🎭 Nietzsche introduces the idea of a "tragic culture" where wisdom takes precedence over science, focusing on embracing eternal suffering and seriousness.
    03:58:50 😟 Nietzsche describes the decline of the Socratic culture, its loss of confidence, and the reluctance of modern man to face the harsh realities of existence.
    04:05:02 🎭 Nietzsche connects the birth of Opera to the optimism of the theoretical man and the desire for words to dominate music, driven by non-aesthetic needs and a belief in the naturally good and artistic primitive man.

  • @austincaruso7596
    @austincaruso7596 Рік тому

    Thank you for providing great value. You're future success is well earned.

  • @AndresAnhthoUPEC
    @AndresAnhthoUPEC 7 місяців тому

    beautiful voice and profound thoughts, Thanks ❤

  • @lewisacaroll2429
    @lewisacaroll2429 Рік тому

    Thank you for making and uploading this. 🎉🎉🎉

  • @tangerinesarebetterthanora7060

    This puts librivox to shame.

  • @Abhinav-xs5jx
    @Abhinav-xs5jx Рік тому +1

    52:59 - 3
    1:45:30
    3:00:07

  • @freddy2780
    @freddy2780 Рік тому

    Excellent job.. really enjoyed it..

  • @Lysanderfication
    @Lysanderfication Рік тому +5

    31:55

  • @its_saam9459
    @its_saam9459 Рік тому +1

    Well, this is a surprise, and a very pleasant one at that.
    What translation are you reading?

  • @3lue_Lynx
    @3lue_Lynx 14 днів тому

    1:01:59

  • @johnstewart7025
    @johnstewart7025 Рік тому

    Experience of Dionysian music here at about 3:30:00 reminds me of the Taoist who said he who knows enlightenment in the morning, is ready to die in the afternoon. But, it seems it is the power and immortality of life being worshipped in Dionysus -- fertility.

  • @PoundianAesthete
    @PoundianAesthete Рік тому

    fantastic reading

  • @WackyConundrum
    @WackyConundrum Рік тому +2

    Can you please add the translation to the description?

  • @DaimianSalutis
    @DaimianSalutis 8 місяців тому

    23:10 frequency comtrol

  • @enzocypriani5055
    @enzocypriani5055 Рік тому

    Thank you!

  • @susannaemmerich1166
    @susannaemmerich1166 9 місяців тому

    Seems to me listening to this beautifully read book, that we have had the " rebirth of TRAGEDY", a month ago.🙃😭🙏

  • @zachweaver5878
    @zachweaver5878 Рік тому

    4:08:08

  • @Albeit_Jordan
    @Albeit_Jordan Рік тому +3

    I'd love to hear you narrate one of Cioran's works, but if I'm honest with myself I probably wouldn't listen to it

    • @untimelyreflections
      @untimelyreflections  Рік тому +9

      Wouldn’t listen? Can’t handle the heights of despair, friend?

    • @its_saam9459
      @its_saam9459 Рік тому +2

      @@untimelyreflections I would definitely listen to it 🤣

  • @fredericktarr8266
    @fredericktarr8266 7 місяців тому

    How now?

  • @andrewhill9707
    @andrewhill9707 Рік тому

    Par excellence.

  • @Lysanderfication
    @Lysanderfication Рік тому +2

    Imagine being able to skip the intro.

  • @svetlinsofiev1910
    @svetlinsofiev1910 7 місяців тому

    a good counter argument to Nietzsches slavery is nessesary is the byzantine empire

  • @6ixthhydro652
    @6ixthhydro652 Рік тому +2

    ❤🎉😊

  • @johnstewart7025
    @johnstewart7025 Рік тому

    Eshelles or Eskulis