everything wrong with dolls kill
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- Опубліковано 14 чер 2020
- I've been planning on making this video (along with some other fashion companies) for a while, so when I saw how Dolls Kill responded to the George Floyd protests and Black Lives Matter movement, I knew it was the right time to compile everything and talk about it now.
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I'm so tired of literal giant corporate brands claiming that they're anarchist somehow. Like, you're *heavily* participating in capitalism with your expensive ass, branded clothes. You can't have it both ways. Anarchism is not an aesthetic lmao.
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Yeah everything about these brands contradicts the whole meaning of what anarchism is about, lol I love your profile pic btw
I also laughed because she tried to connect anarchy to a photo of the police... like whaaat?!
Yeah, I had to laugh with her apology.
@VALERIA LATORRE AHUMADA Anarcho-capitalism isn't actually anarchism though - "ancaps" use the term anarchy to mean "no government", whereas every other anarchist uses it to mean "no hierarchy". Capitalism is in itself a hierarchical system - and so being an "ancap" is an oxymoron. They can be right libertarians, but don't let them try to convince you they share any similarities with actual anarchists when they prop up a system built on class divide.
Oh my god that email made me want to retract into myself
the amount of cringe I felt reading it out loud...
it sounds like a fifteen year old on stan twitter lmao
i love you GC 🥺♥️
I froze up and stopped breathing for a sec it was nothing but cringe
@Mia Alexandria Huh?
The one thing I want to point out is that SugarPillsClth is NOT the same company as Sugarpill Cosmetics. The clothing is a completely different company that sells poor, cheap quality clothing on Dolls Kill while Sugarpill Cosmetics is an absolutely amazing brand/company.
They at one point even stole sugarpill cosmetics' old logo
Thank you! I was confused about that, because I thought the cosmetic company was pretty good.
Also Sugarpill cosmetics is spelled this way plz edit for further distinction
Isn’t the clothing called Sugar Thrillz? I feel like they are pretty affordable and the quality is decent for what you pay for...But to each their own.
Cosmetologeek two different brands
I hate the whole “for people who don’t dress like everyone else” thing. Like, we’re all different. Everyone has their own style. Dressing edgy doesn’t make you better than anyone else.
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lmao i get what your saying but not everyone that dressed edgy is like that lol
@@eviileee7945 where did they say that everyone dressing edgy acts like that lol. they're talking about the brand/shop
Orange Juice That’s definitely not what I meant! I love edgy fashion and know a lot of cool people who are into it, I just dislike how this particular brand just grouped everyone else’s style into one category.
Nemus Crawlingfoot Maybe that’s how they like to dress. And you don’t take into account the countless other styles people have. It’s not only edgy and then everyone else.
Also forgot to talk about how the “Dead Girls Cant Say No” t shirt promotes necrophilia......was this Ted Bundy’s idea to make this tshirt?
Edit: thank you for the likes! Never thought my most liked comment would ever involve necrophilia though 🙈
jesus christ, that's so fucking gross. they can't even defend that one because there isn't even a different meaning than the obvious, disgusting one.
Aaand rape in general
@@renee1072 Yeah I mean I'm sure some people bought that shirt and I just wanna know what kind of person sees a shirt that says "Dead Girls Can't Say No" and thinks oh yes that's the one I'm gonna spend my money on that lol.
5:27
She did mention it...
I love how dolls kill is where all the girls who bullied me in school for being "emo" / alternative wanna shop at now to be trendy and edgy lmaooo
Has A mmhmm but we all know what the E in e-girl stands for 🙄
Jenn for real dollskill is just brandy Melville for people who want to be alt
Annie English oop 👀
Exactly lmao
Honestly this is so true, although there’s nothing wrong with liking e-girl/ alt type of style as long as your a good person ya know
given her popularity it’s surprises me how nobody talks about when dollskill straight up stole from bella/internetgirl. they had a relationship for a long time and eventually even sold bella’s igirl pendants on their website. but only a couple months later the pendants were off the website and instead they were selling a rip-off of bella’s she devil pendant and earrings. she’s said she doesn’t have a relationship with them anymore and no longer puts their items in her depop bundles. when it happened i couldn’t even believe how they’d even steal from someone they had such a good relationship with. they have no limits.
The Bei Badgirl, Nikki Lipstick and Gitsie Wood situation was enough for me to be turn away from them. Even more considering how they were gaslighted and mocked for calling out Dollskill.
wow i didn't even know that! that's so frickin shameful, they're a million dollar fast fashion label and they stole from an independent seller. wtf
They stole from me I created a heart bra. And it was up on their site and I also had a relationship with them! I was promoting for 6 months then I found that out and ended our contract.
@@ItsBrejahnia Dude, I'm sorry. That is garbage.
bella steals a lot from others as well, which is why i think she deleted her tweets about dolls kill stealing her jewelry-because people were calling her out for it in the replies. they’re both at fault, and i am not trying to take away the attention from bella because what dolls kill did was wrong, but bella isn’t innocent. if you look up igirl or bella in reddit there are a lot of threads explaining how’s she stolen from others. not trying to make you feel bad, just want you to be in the know as well!
The other issue with the statement about the "goth is white" shirt is that they're basically saying "well we didn't intend it to be racist so if it had that impact it's not our problem." I'm going to paraphrase from Rachel Cargle, who is a lecturer who educates on anti-racism: If you accidentally step on someone's foot, don't you still apologize? Why? Because the impact is that they're in pain, even if the intent was not to hurt anyone.
Editing this to add that if you're arguing over whether the t-shirt was intended to be racist or not, you didn't read my comment. I was explaining how the "apology" and how the statement "I didn't intend to hurt anyone," was irrelevant. If people from the Black community are saying they were hurt by it, just say "I'm sorry, and I'll do better." Why does it matter what your intentions are? Centering your intentions is making it all about you instead of the apology. The end result is still hurt, and if you aren't part of the community being hurt, you have no right to say if they're allowed to be hurt or not.
Wonderful way to think :)
And to elaborate on that, the “goth is white” explanation makes no sense. They said in their response that they were trying covey that goth isn’t just black clothes, so why not say “goth is all colors” or “goth is a rainbow” or some other cheesy line?
People are also really touchy these days. If it said "Goth is Black" would people be upset? I dunno. It's just really weird to me how easily people get upset these days, enough to cancel tv shows and being upset at a cartoon character from Paw Patrol lol. In context, I don't see a huge issue but I kind of get why it might sound wrong (and since Dolls Kill is known for issues I wouldn't be surprised if it was a racist shirt).
@@BooksToAshes i get that you're annoyed by people being overly sensitive. But this shirt is a different story. The Goth Style is often associated with a very pale, white skin, which is the reason why people think of skin color when they see the phrase "goth is white". Which is quite racist if that was what they meant, as no style should be defined by your skin color. If it said "goth is black" people would associate it with the colour of the clothing. The phrases "goth is white" and "goth is black" are totally different in the way that it comes across.
@Winter Wonder The Goth Style is often associated with a very pale, white skin, which is the reason why people think of skin color when they see the phrase "goth is white". Because in the goth style, what could be white? Oh yeah, skin colour. Which is quite racist if that was what they meant, as no style should be defined by your skin color. If it said "goth is black" people would associate it with the colour of the clothing, as goth style is defined by the black clothing. The phrases "goth is white" and "goth is black" are totally different in the way that it comes across.
Not everyone thinks the same as you. Some of us did make the connection with skin colour, without being racist ourselves.
Theyre the people who get more offended by being CALLED Racist rather than BEING racist
audi leigh i dont know, I was once called a racist for being a white girl dating a black man, that was very confusing to me and a bit offensive to say that “mixing” like they put it is cultural appropriation. That was just weird
literally no one cares
honestly nowadays considering how sensitive the situation is people are going off and calling everybody racist, not all people, but some are just hopping on cancel culture based on nothing.
A exactly!
they weren't racist tho not even once
Dolls kill is the Brandy Melville of alt fashion
omg yesssss
its run by goth regina george
@@deadchannel3610 isn’t Janis Ian basically a goth Regina George except she’s unpopular 😂
the camera is DETERMINED to get that blanket in focus instead of her
ugh trust me it was so annoying editing this video 🙄
her voice sped up like this gives me “the VOLUME in This Bus is ASTRONOMICAL” vibes
LOL
literally thooo
The "portion of proceeds" part is shady because it shifts responsibility from Dolls Kill to the consumer. Basically what they're saying is "Ok we will support black owned brands, but only if YOU buy their products from our site." Yikes
Molly Scarborough they did also donate a shit ton of money and are matching all employee donations 100%, it just wasn’t covered in this video.
thrashing pumpkins send link to article about wut ur saying bc i doubt dolls kill is doing anything nice unless it benefits them
That's a good point. I didn't think of it that way
DollsKill is shoddy, which is oddly fitting considering the owner.
the whole "goth is white" thing just proves that they don't have a diverse enough team because only a white person could look at that phrase and say "there is no way anyone could misinterpret this to mean something else"
uhh no. anyone with more than two brain cells wouldn't go out of their way to make it about race when it's not:)
MR_BLITZ 1 then you, just like the people who approved and purchased this design, are both tone deaf and ignorant
@@1.800zZzZzZz It was already about race when being goth was equated with having pale skin and then companies like Dolls Kill and Killstar hire almost exclusively light-complected models to further perpetuate the narrative. It's extremely easy to see why so many people would have interpreted it this way.
@@stardusstie that's not what the shirt said. also the main demographic of the people who shop for clothes like that are white people, just like how the main demographic of people who shop for brands like Jordan are black.
this!! i love this.
Finally someone who talks about this and explains what’s going on. All I see on the internet is comments that don’t explain anything. Thank you so much. 🖤
I've had a few people ask me what's so wrong with them and I would give some info but also told them hey just look it up man, this stuff is everywhere but we still need more info spread
Imo Emily Boo has made some good videos. Also stitchess
many people made videos about this....
that explanation for the " goth is white" shirt .. ok 🙄
but wtf were they even going for with the "dead girls can't say no" shirt ??
I can only assume to be edgy.
hi i’m late but my guess is it’s a pseudo-woke statement saying “i can’t give consent if my life isn’t protected/i’m killed” but like. it still ABSOLUTELY reads like a threat.
They blamed their second company lol pathetic
Could've made a shirt called "goth is pink" which fits even better because pink is the opposite of Gothic aesthetics however they choose the problematic way
As a punk/low-key goth I’d like that 👍💖
Even “goth is bright” would’ve fit what they were trying to portray way better and been much harder to misconstrue smh
Nothing wrong with goth is white tho lol 😂
@@kimmyymmik are you joking
That would have been cute or “goth is rainbow” 🌈
Goth/grunge/alt girl here... And idek why anyone would make or buy the 'Goth is White' t-shirt... I mean who wouldn't think that's what it meant????
Also sometimes I looked like I walked straight out of Hot Topic and then other times I dress like an average Jane... Dude, if I want to be Ebony Darkness Dementia Way one day and a churchy looking girl the next, I know I can and don't need to assert this. I definitely don't need an overpriced t-shirt with racist undertones to advertise my autonomy lmao. 🤷🏻♀️
Exactly! Like yea a lot of my wardrobe Is black, but if I feel like wearing my flowery crop top I do that! I don't need a shirt with that message, esp. one with racist tones to it. Jeez.
Also on another note completely: do you have any recommendations of places to shop alt styles? Most I find are either sketchy looking or just kinda old looking/tacky in their style.
@@catilena Mostly I go for mainstream stuff: Hot Topic, Marshall's, TJ Maxx, Amazon, some thrift stores. My makeup is much more gothic looking than my outfit at any given time, - I generally don't dress too crazily. But you'd be surprised what gems you could find in places you don't expect!
@@catilena I usually buy somewhat basic clothes but style them goth like. Goth accessories make any outfit special, creepers, leather jacket with pins, you're good👌🏾
"I mean who wouldn't think that's what it meant????" - Someone who lived a fortunate enough life, to look at the words _black_ or _white_ and only think to associate them with clothing colours... and has never checked their privilege
Honestly, a shirt saying "Goth is Black", although still not good, would make WAY more sense. I have no idea what they thought they were doing.
i hate when people act like this is a "right now" issue as if people havent been trying to combat racism and police brutality forever
Right
The fact that the clip is sped up and it still feels painful to watch her get to the point 🙉
Feel sorry that Sarah had to sit through the real thing
fr liks not even trying to make it look like she cares abt the "issues" and isnt totally reading from some crap notes/script
The fact the pauses were long and painful in the sped up version makes me cringe at how long the pauses are in regular speed
I can’t imagine how slow she talked in the original, when she talked this slow in the sped up version.
owner of large fast fashion brand claims 'strong connection to anarchist beliefs" lmao ok sweaty
aligns perfectly because her anarchist beliefs centre around her and not wider society. she explicitly said she believes in civil disobedience meaning not caring about society as a whole and prioritising yourself and your desires.
lol yessss that's what i thought
Sweety *?
Haha yup in that self centred self serving if you stop me from doing whatever I want to do then you're fascist kinda way :)
@Duttkopf it’s supposed to be sweaty lmao
I’m Romani and I’m sick of “Gypsy” costumes at Halloween and all the non-Romani individuals who are claiming to be a “free spirited gypsy”. I’ve talked to many people who are ignorant of the fact that “Gypsy” was originally a racial slur against the Romani people, or that “Gypsy” people are a different race (indo-aryan). Gypsy is not just a cool way to describe your free spirited lifestyle.
i'm not personally romani, but i totally agree with your comment - it's always bothered me that just casually use that racial slur like it's some cutesy clothing style tf
Yes and when people use "gypped" to mean they got ripped off... gypped is a slang derived from gypsy. And not a nice one.
Yes! This is something that I feel more people need to be aware of!
I am not Romani but I always physically cringe when people call themselves a gypsy when they clearly don’t know what it means. I’m sorry you have to see that all the time. Also I’ve noticed in music the concept of “Gypsy” is used a lot as an aesthetic and it’s gross
What is Romani?
its disgusting how many companies rip off indigenous designs for jewelry, fabric, etc. with strong cultural meaning (not even giving credit).
How are the clips of the founder talking sped up :D It still feels sooooooo slow. Just say what you have to say, no need for all those super dramatic pauses. It seems like she's trying to make it sound extra meaningful.
I literally thought that when I was editing like do I speed it up MORE they’re still taking forever lol
i have the video on 2× and it's still slower than i talk
@@TokioLotus i've been looking for this comment, thank you so much!
she sounds like a child trying to apologize with the sped up voice
Current mood and Sugarthrillz are owned by Dollskill! So they are 100% the problem, they have absolutely no excuse. Love your videos 💕
This! It literally says "by dolls kill" on the inside materials tags.
thank goodness it was sugarthrillz, it sounded like homie was saying sugar pill- the makeup company. i was so scared :((
Sugarthrillz, Current Mood, poster girl, Club Exx, house of widow, Delias, and horrorscopez are all their brands! Brands that they sell but don’t own are things like the ragged priest, pleaser, fila, and kappa!
Is omighty completely separate? Always thought they were connected
@@dabbunnymikaela I know this comment is 4 months old lol but yes they have their own website
next up: brandy melville!! not a single poc model on their website. and then obviously, there's the whole thing about their disgusting beauty standards
*model of colour
"One size fits all" my ass 🙄
Morbidbunny3 they actually state “one size fits small” which imo is worse because it suggests that “small” is the only valid size
They don't want POC they want only skinny minor teenage white girls. Which makes them WAY more horrible.
They make shit for skinny white girls only, I wouldn't expect a cinch of sympathy from them
I can’t even imagine being Native American or a First Nation person and hearing that nasty ass response. I don’t cancel easily (just depends on what it is, the response, and if there is change), but that should have been an instant canceling moment.
Katie Marie 100% agree. Especially considering the fact that most natives don’t wear headdress like that period. Each feather must be earned and it is even considered disrespectful for us to wear them. Most are worn by chiefs and elders, the only people who could have earned all of those feathers.
they said 'it aint that serious, cutie'..... like headdress literally ARE serious parts of the culture and religion????
"Sorry if we offended you, we are just sassy" WHAT
@@tomylovestacos how does one earn feathers? Do you have any recommendations for further reading? I find it very fascinating and I'd like more decent information. ^^
cancelling doesn’t work anyway
Your cat screaming no is iconic 😂
Laura W also her loud neighbors. 😂
The fact their responses are so blatantly unprofessional, really shocked me
Ikr? It's like they hired a bunch of edgelord teenagers.
The e-Mail about the Native American headdress was just terrible
it was very unprofessional
She didn't even try and apologise? Like? It was just "sorry you were offended normie how could you even THINK we're racist that's ridiculous haha"
Plus in Native tribes that wear headresses (which not all tribes do) only men wore them
I should paint Goth Is Rainbow on one of my old black t-shirts
YES, great idea
I was literally thinking this! Why wouldn’t they just put this! Instead of white ..
Goth is pink would also be good.
@@Vampress09 literally- like why wouldn't you use any BRIGHT colour, which is stereotypically NOT goth, instead of white??? did nobody, not even ONE single person, bring up the possibility it would look terrible?
i would buy tf out of goth is rainbow and goth is pink shirts
Me, me, me, me. That’s all I hear in her “apology” video.
I have seen in another video on this topic by The Stitchess that current mood and sugarthrillz are both owned and operated by dolls kill
oh wow good to know thank you!
they definitely hold the trademark ownerships of Sugar Thrillz and a few other brands trademarks.justia.com/owners/dolls-kill-inc-3672538/
The way I always thought of it is that those "labels" are to help you shop for a specific look you are going for, like current mood is kind of 60's psychedelic? And sugar thrillz is like fairy unicorn pastel/rainbow fantasy. Widow is your "goth" vibe. But the website does list them as brands. So I have no idea.
Current Mood is definitely their brand.
The email they sent about the Native American head dress is so unprofessional and horrible
that apology made me so uncomfortable it just felt so forced, they're definitely just trying to cover their ass now that more and more people are realizing they are and will probably continue to be a problematic company
my fbi agent saw me looking on dollskill for some cute platforms this morning and decided to recommend me this aight i see you mr.
S goth youtuber and instagrammer named ItsBlackFriday had her likeness put on a shirt sold by Dollskill. Like a picture of her on a shirt
Without It's Black Friday's knowledge/permission? I subscribe to her YT & never knew this, so just curious if it was a collaboration or what. 🙂
I presmumes that was a collab 😱
@@amyfrancis8941 it wasn't a collab, they literally stole a photo of her and changed up a couple things and then put it on the shirt, it was clearly her face, so sketchy!
Amy Francis blackfriday spoke of it on her instagram and stated she was not involved and had no idea
She doesn't seem like the type that would enjoy people wearing her face either...
Really glad YOU in particular made this video, since I know you've been vocal about fast fashion and ethical fashion/clothing in general for so long, you're the first person that got me to seriously look into this and watch the "True cost"
omg amazing! and yes I could NOT stay silent.
I don’t even understand how companies can be this tasteless in the first place?
Capitalism is an ugly thing
They do have an "anti-establishment/counter-culture" vibe going on, which somehow translates to "we don't care about anything" (but like, with massive amount of capitalism).
As an anarchist, when she said she was connected to anarchist ideas, I just wanted to scream. Yeah, maybe anarcho-capitalist ideas...
i kept reading that as arsonist i was like damn dude
Omg yes, that’s the exact same thing I said !!
what about anarchism attracts you?
Beyond the Radio arsonist? Um...
“anarchist” ideas in the sense that she’s a rich white girl who shoplifts things from Walmart to be edgy
I always thought Dolls Kill was so cute and - after watching this - I'm glad that I never bought from them before. And I certainly don't plan on it.
Emily Boo did two videos on alternatives to dollskill which include slow fashion and even POC owned alt businesses
Yeah I like a lot of their stuff, but the quality of the clothes are not great not to mention the price of some pieces. I bought from them once and never again.
diana melchor thanks bb! im the same way that ive loved the stuff and never bought it and now nEVER will
Luckily they do a lot of using other places stuff (with and without permission) so you can get it anyway,😂
i’m so desperate for a store that sells alternative clothing (including pastel/kawaii things), is affordable, uk based or free international shopping, that has inclusive sizing and doesn’t just drop ship from aliexpress... honestly it seems impossible
killstar is uk based but not into kawaii
Look up Clammy Heart clothing for cute kawaii stuff. They don't do free shipping but smaller companies can't afford to send parcels for free, but it's all embroidered by the designer!
this is also what i want, but its kinda hard :((
You might find some good stuff on Etsy
I honestly suggest you to buy directly from AliExpress, there are lots of gems there
I just can't take her seriously. Do bad thing, oops sorry, do another bad thing, oops sorry. I get learning and growing but growth isn't really being seen long term so far. Just my thoughts.
apologizing and actually improving is what we want. she apologizes but doesn't improve. its disappointing and sad
I agree! Her quote of "I started dollskill to bring together people of all shapes, colors, size, opinions, identities, - WHATEVER!" does NOT seem sincere at all
“Her” as in who?
@@sbjade9812 the creator of dollskill
She literally looks like a kicked puppy in the last apology
Did they really say that disrespecting the small amount of culture that natives have left is “not that deep” ???
she literally said "sick" so we couldn't tell if she was saying "cool" or "disgusting".... oh.
Emily Boo made a great video breaking down all the areas where Dolls Kills fail, flop, and just are horrible in general.
Thanks for spreading awareness Sarah!
You could also do a video about good clothing brands to buy from. As someone who is only getting into fashion and clothes, I mostly hear about bad brands but ethical brands aren't really highlighted
I actually don’t shop for new clothes so I haven’t explored ethical clothing brands yet! especially because of the price point, I’ll just always prefer shopping secondhand. Everlane and Reformation have proven to be a bit problematic tho so those aren’t the best brands to shop from but really well known as “ethical” clothing companies.
You can find a lot of small businesses on Etsy, you can message them directly and read the reviews/do your own research if you want to be sure
A great place to start is using Good on You and you can filter by particular items or find articles they have on different styles that highlight different brands. They have tons of brands and give you a sustainability rating and an overview of the companies ethics, they also showcase a wide variety of price points. Just know that sustainable and ethical clothing will always be more expensive because that is how much it costs pay their workers a living wage etc.
This is a huge masterlist that you can also sort by catagory mygreencloset.com/directory/
My favourite brand, not just because they're sustainable, but because I would die for all their clothes is Lucy and Yak.
You can also just shop at thrift stores or buying secondhand from depop and places like that.
Thank you so much!!!
Depop! It’s an online used clothes store
i ordered $136 of clothes from dk and it got "lost" and i emailed them and got no response and its about 4 months now so needless to say I WILL NEVER EVER order or even look on dk for the rest of my live..
Odd. I’ve had nothing but spectacular customer service from them.
omg even with it sped up and the video at 2x speed she speaks so slowly in her apologies
tell me why she was looking at a script while saying her “apology video”... 😳
I do get the fact that the dollskill instagram page linked to their own site in their bio though. If they link to another site, it might get hacked/spread faulty information/..., whereas by linking on their own site, they have complete control over what information they spread. The pop-up I'm sure is just a default in their coding, I don't think that's something that should be judged too harshly.
On what you said about them being lazy for asking their followers about black owned businesses: don't you think that small businesses might have more chance to get found by them, rather then when their researching on their own without input? It might actually be a good thing.
I'm not pro dolls kill by any means, just staying critical :) Lovely video as always!
those are good points thank you for thinking critically! 👏
yeah! thanks for thinking more openly about this!
@@OxundHeiner Oh yeah that definitely makes sense as well haha
i’ll never understand why people still buy from them...
I honestly didn't know about any of this until earlier this year! We definitely need people to keep bringing it up and pointing it out, because I didn't even know DollsKill was a thing in 2014 or 2016. I'm thankful people started bringing it up again this year, so I know not to buy anything from them again.
i was an avid Dolls Kill purchaser until this surfaced. I think if people still continue to buy from the brand after this, it's because of two reasons: they either feel that Dolls Kill is genuinely turning a new leaf orrrr it's because the brand is one of the most well known alt stores with a varied catalog of aesthetics, which is why I bought from them in the first place. It'll definitely be more of an easier transition for people who might still lean on the brand if, in conjunction to bringing awareness to Dolls Kill's controversy, we also suggest alternative, more ethical alt brands that aren't as well known.
Lol the first time I heard about dolls kill was when niki demartino went on and on about them and I thought to myself okay let’s not buy from that company lol
fr like
1. they’re racist asf
2. they steal designs
3. they basically dropship
4. i’m broke as fuck
I brought 3 things from there and after watching this I feel bad
i'm not getting anything edgy from "dead girls can't say no" t-shirt. i'm getting necrophilia vibes, nothing else.
The “dead girls can’t say no” shirt caught me really off guard oh my god
I really wanted to like dolls kill for a long time but could never get past the bs they feed people and I'm super happy I never gave them my money. You'd think a company that thrives off of being an individual, they dont do a good job at portraying it. I'll stick to thrifting/ diying my own fashion cuz....gross
Edit: you brought up the employee thing! Enough people dont talk about this garbage. The person in the wheelchair breaks my heart...like damn that's dirty
Can we get a video about The Assassination of Gianni Versace? I've been binging a lot of true crime stuff lately and can't find any on the show. Thanks :)
Holy shit I'd love this too! I finished the series in like two days bc I liked it so much
I second this! Such an amazing show!!!
Go visit Stephanie Harlowe's channel, she has an amazing true crime channel, so in depth and well researched!
There's actually a movie/documentary about Gianni Versace. I think it's on Netflix or OnDemand.
It’s like an emo Hollister....
Despite the video being sped up the dolls kill's owner's voice still sounds slow 😂
Right? I was like, "this is fast? I don't even want to hear slow!"
Pretty funny that the company’s founder is literally called ‘Shoddy’ 🤔
*Shady
Wow! That cat was like nope bye. ♥️👍🏽🤷🏻♀️
First... but... that doesn’t matter! What matters is the time you took to make us this amazing video. Love you!
haha aw love you!
Sarah Hawkinson OH WOW! Thank you so much for responding. I am bipolar type 2 and your mental health videos were the first that I really connected to. ❤️
I couldn't watch thier statement on Instagram because she was talking so slow. Didn't even bother I just unfollowed them and moved on with my day
Why does the Dolls Kill founder sound like Lisa Simpson?
The clip is sped up
it literally says why before the video starts
dollskill sounds like a middle class white mom when she gets called out for being racist
Not serious, but me and my 2 other friends who have ordered from dollskill have all had instances where they sent the wrong item! Idk how that could happen so much. Was also not personally pleased with the customer service, just meh. I don't shop from them anymore either bc it's fast fashion and im a broke ass bitch.
why do i feel like i'm being told off by the dollskill lady in her "apology" video??
I don’t understand how they can’t even admit that “goth is white” could have been perceived as racist
Epic eye roll in the thumbnail, you should do that face more haha it’s great
what a fucking MOOD
I applaud you for coming forward and shedding light on this. Many of us who want our shopping to be morally and ethically sound wouldn't even know what's going on with them, or other brands.
please say models of color rather than “poc models”. poc isn’t an adjective, it’s an acronym, and you would be saying “people of color models”
So well researched, so well organized, amazing video! So much information I had no idea about, thank you for this!
sizing also runs really small!
I was just going to comment that when she said she created Dolls Kill to bring together people of all different sizes. As long as those sizes are small and extra small.
because they order clothes from china! and they just don't make large sizes.
More Hoodies right! I hate when brands do that shit like it’s fucked up
Andréy then don’t order the clothes from China???? if your motivation is, as she said, to “bring together people of all sizes” then make the fucking effort to have inclusive sizing
isabel necessary I agree! And as I know they did that and they have a new sizing chart for a few years now.
I was hoping you’d make a video about this as you gather all the info. I tried to research what had happened but I was coming up short! So as soon as I saw it was uploaded I had to watch.
Quite a while ago, I was considering buying from them. I took one look at the prices and quality of clothing and closed the tab.
Ok... but just bcuz they have a million dollars in their *purchasing budget* and can afford to spend it on goods that will then be resold for a profit doesn’t necessarily mean they can afford to _donate_ a million dollars tho....? 🤔
you are my favourite youtuber , you make great and real content love you Sarah stay safe ♡
thank you! 💕
Someone in the dollskill chain of production should have caught these before they were ever sold - how many eyes had to approve those items? And the portion of the proceeds? How is their solution to literally to market specific items to us? They ask us what brands to sell back to us, that then makes them more money. I always heard about their past f*ckups so never spent my money there. Also thanks for speeding up her videos. I literally couldn't get through them when they were posted because she sounded sooo disingenuous.
P.s. I've been watching for years! Keep it up Sarah 🧡🧡🧡🧡
I thought the exact same thing - who the heck was like "oh this is fine" and didn't say anything about the items?
I’m sorry, can we talk about the fact that the model that was wearing the “goth is white” shirt ISNT WHITE. She’s a mixed girl. Definitely a part black girl. I know she looks it, and I’ve been confused on that model too. But if you look into that model then you would know she’s a mixed girl.
Thank you for making this video! Personally, I was willfully ignorant for a while. This was many years ago back in high school, before I became an activist as well as anti-fast fashion, but I just didn’t care. It’s so embarrassing for me to admit that but I think it’s important to admit it. Nobody is perfect and everyone has their flaws- mine was my stubbornness. Since it wasn’t directly effecting me, I justified it. Now, I use my stubbornness for good causes and I am SO happy that I am not that person I was in HS anymore. I can’t believe I gave a disgusting company like this my money, I wish I could take it all back. Thank you, again, for making this video and for using your platform to speak up. ❤️❤️
That five minute apology started with her sounding like that Think Different commercial from Steve Jobs and Macintosh computers back in the 90s. Coincidence? Probably.
Maybe Ms. Dollskill would've been a sillicon valley mogul in a different life.
Your cat meowing after you said “stick it up your assy” is a whole mood and I burst out laughing since the timing was perfect. Just subscribed!
Dollskill isn’t even worth its expensive ass prices anyway 😭
Why does their companies statements and apologies sound like the Heathers made it?!
The high pitched voice has me HOLLERING
But I have a question, are the other shops on dolls fast fashion as well, because I know that obey and fila get sold in other stores so should I just stop buying from the other shops on the website or can I shop from those shops separately? Sorry this is hella confusing
I think this video is also similar to the Urban Outfitters one you did! Thanks for compiling all the info
i was already upset about dolls kill & what’s been happening, but seeing the “goth is white” made me so infuriated. & all of the responses from the companies & the owner made it even worse. glad they’re NOW gonna look at their clothes with a critical eye (because that definitely doesn’t show how ignorant they’ve always truly been)
I clicked super fast, keep up your great content! ❤️
I just wanna say I'm glad I'm still following you after many years, I love how authentic you are and how you keep your priorities straight. And your hair looks amazing. Gonna catch up on your last vids now. good night :)
I have a question. I blame my self entirely. I didn´t check out dollskill so I was unaware until recently. I will NEVER buy from them again, but I have a lot in my closet that I now feel bad for wearing. I recently started posting my outfits on instagram almost everyday ( @/joridthefurby) so now I feel bad for using dollskill. I have stoped tagging them but is that good enough? I dont want to stop wearing 1/4 of my closet...but then again I don´t want people to still think I support them. What do I do? Please help!
Id say 1- dont buy from them in future 2- add in your posts where you wear their stuff a note that you found out about some of the things theyve done and no longer endorse or reccomend the brand
Imagine being literally named Shawty
When Shawty is actually Shoddy 🤯
I nearly ordered a lazy oaf dress from dolls kill but I ended up finding it on depop. I’m glad I didn’t now.
I want to order a pair of sneaker boots from Emily strange collection but idk about sizing can you please help me
Sorry to ask but can someone explain what "fast fashion" is? I searched it up but dont quite understand because im a bit younger
The second apology of Shoddy's you showed just reeks of bullshit cuz at one point she straight up lied. I've been shopping at dolls kill for years and years and they only added plus sized clothes a few years ago. So when she said she started dolls kill to cater to people of all shapes and sizes I was like hmm idk about that lol. And as you said, for awhile they only had white or white passing super thin models on their website. I could be wrong, but even in around 2017/2016 they had very little diversity on their website. (And to be clear, I don't shop at dolls kill anymore).
omg because they order clothes from china! and they just don't make large sisez in china. that's why sizes are small (for asians).
@@Iamandrey I don't know how to break this to you but there are also fat people in China. And DollsKill producing clothes in China is a problem in itself because the workers are being paid badly.
@@TheSnowBallet you don't have to be rude, just google some original sources like aliexpress and taobao (where they order things) and you'll see the size charts.
@@Iamandrey I don't see how they were being rude. And also, there are plenty of places that order clothes from China that also have plus sized clothing. A brand can't claim they were founded to cater to people of all shapes and sizes when it took them years and years to provide a few plus sized options.
A I used to work in a “brand” like this and I kinda know how it works. I said “Brand” because it is not really a brand, it’s just a freaking reseller.. look at their jewelry for example.. you can find exactly the same things on TaoBao, the same problem with clothes.. they just buy the clothes from Chinese sellers and then they redesign their labels (if they even do that).
not to sound fake deep or anything but i’ve heard that when people shake their head no when speaking their “truth” like in her apology video, it means they are lying or do not believe what they are saying 🤷🏻♀️
I don’t think that’s “fake deep” at all! body language is a very real thing and can and should be interpreted because it can tell us a lot.
she looked uncomfortable, which is perfectly reasonable since her character is on the line. But she clearly doesn't care or think about these issues. And the little tear she wiped away made me cringe.
@@doktorzhigonzo9165 lol that tear was for herself.
I ordered from them yesterday... Won't be doing that again
It took me three tries to finish this video:)). We'll see if it takes more than this.
As always, love you🥰. The topics, the hair, the cats
The founder reminds me of those rich kids who would dress like the "working class" for aesthetics