We give the new Suzuki Jimny 5 Door (Jimny XL) a 4x4 workout and compare it to the 3 Door : Part 1
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- We have some fun in the sun with a Suzuki Jimny 5 door and 3 Door. In this video we take them off road to test the 4x4 ability and compare it to the 3 door legend. We also find (to our surprise!!) how much better the automatic gearbox is on the JB74 than we thought. Tough 4x4 tracks with steep incline and declines at Hobby Park 4x4 in the West Rand was our testing ground and the Jimny's both delivered in terms of their 4x4 ability. The 3 door jimny was fitted with 215 section A/T Grabbers and the 5 door was on the standard 195 section rubber as supplied when bought new, apart from that, the vehicles are completely stock. As I own the 3 door in this vid (bought new and now has 30 000km on) I was really curious to see how much different these two vehicles would be, and they were!! Please contact us on hein.kock@gmail.com for Jimny specific 4x4 training in the Gauteng area.
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Check out Part 2, where we take the 2 Jimnys on a family day trip with a Gen 3 Jimny along scenic gravel roads:
• 5 Door Jimny XL vs 3 D...
Check out Part 2 of our Jimny adventure, where we take the 2 Jimnys on a family outing with a Gen 3 Jimny on a scenic gravel road day trip.
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I got my new 5 door Xl Jimny today in a white manual car, home in Australia. I got excited just watching you guys have fun. Such capable little beasts.
Congratulations!!!! Wishing You many happy miles!! They sure are capable!! As a first hop up I can suggest a set of 215/75 A/T tires. It improves off-road ability and street cred at a low cost point.
A Nice , clear and simple comparison . Just got mine a few days ago in manual . I owned an earlier iteration of the Jimny in the 1990s called the gypsy here in India , loved it .
Thank You!! You are going to love your new Jimny!!
Thank you so very much for making this video, especially with a stock five door. I am from India, and we bought two of those five door versions. I had been looking for the kind of input you provided here, by people who use this car as a daily commute in such road conditions.
It's our pleasure!! Look out for part two in the coming weeks, it has a lot more info on the Jimny.
You cant go wrong with a 3 Door Auto for city driving and off-roading..
Greetings from Iceland. Hope we get the 4 door here, I might get tempted to upgrade.
If You drive the 5 door version You are going to be VERY tempted!! Welcome to the channel.
Wow, getting a lot of G-Wagen vibe from the 5 door! Looks great.
It does look even closer now!! I'm sure someone is going to kit one out soon enough...............
It does look like a mini G
Man you guys live in an awesome part of the world!!
Thank You!! It is EPICLY beautiful here, the South African sky was putting up a really good show on the day!!!!!
Thanks so much for this video comparison. A must watch video for those thinking of choosing between auto or manual jimny. Would be awesome if do a video like this but only with a manual five door and auto five door
Thanx for the feedback! We might re visit the 5 door in the future and keep that in mind.
It’s a very good little car. Totally underestimated in India.
They are extremely popular here in SA. It's interesting as our local market vehicles are manufactured in India.
@@TheMotoringShow-ly5yi yeah i know. i have the jimny’s grandpa, the long wheelbase Samurai, called the Gypsy here in India. I also have the THAR from Mahindra and that’s almost the same as a Wrangler Willys. But the Gypsy and the Jimny’s greatest strength is their “lightness”. The Jimny has a wonderful ride quality with those 195/80/15 tyres and while diminutive in size it is a tough as nails. Really very good vehicles. The only irritant, if at all, is that it is not the perfect highway cruiser, because it has a small naturally aspirated engine and a 4 speed AT gearbox.
Awesome 4x4!
We had a great time in them on that track!!
Great terrain you have there! good video but I have to strongly disagree with the auto vs manual opinion. In the UK 80% of people drive manuals and it used to be almost everyone. A manual is always better off road. That manual can go as slow if not slower than the auto in low range 1st with good clutch control than the auto can. It's down to driver skill and preference. The last thing I want when off road is a car telling me when to change gear. I want to be fully in control of that! However, for the someone who is used to an auto in general than the last thing you want to do when heading off road for the first time is add the clutch in to the equation. Also on road, which is where the car will spend more of its time even for the keen off roader. You need that 5th gear. In 5th gear at 100kpm or 62mph the engine is revving at almost 4000rpm. That is going to be a nightmare in a 4 seeped auto. The 3 door is underpowered. It's disappointing imho that they have not given the 5 door more power. When you do your on road test I would be interested to see the 5 door fully loaded with passengers and luggage on a 100kpm road for a long drive compered to the 3 door. Which is already not good by the way even with a 5 speed and less weight. I think Suzuki had a great opportunity to make the 5 door a fantastic opinion and they have failed. I know it's personal to everyone and their driving ability, where they live there use case etc.. but for me the 5 door and the auto is just not an option.
That's why you get the manual and auto option, so you can choose what works for you.
I wondered why anyone would want an auto box off road until I got my first 4x4 with an auto box. After that I was sold. Yes, I can do the same things off road in a manual, but the slippage from a torque converter gives fine control at very slow speeds that you can't get in a manual unless you slip the clutch, which won't end well.
Also, you don't need paddle shifters to override an auto box, just select the gear you want on the shifter and the auto box does as it's told! It might shift down in need, but it won't shift up.
Most 5-door Jimnys in South Africa will work as Mom's taxis, in which case, why not choose an auto?
If I were to buy one, having driven both manual and auto, off and on road, I'd lean more towards the auto.
@@ChristianFigenschou Its a fair point. The auto I have driven off road was not a Jimny and a much older box which I personally did not like. However, I'm sure the new Defender for example would be a dream to drive off road and they don't give you a manual option. Each to there own.. I mostly deal with mud here and an auto can do strange things when slipping about trying to keep momentum!
In Australia the disco1 came with an automatic in 94, once they were in the population and people experienced for themselves and saw how good they were off road, all the brands soon followed. Auto diesel 4x4 leaves a manual one for dead.
3 Doors the real story since Samurai 😍
Just got my five door GLX manual - 215/75R15 AT5 on the way.
Congratulations!! That tire mod is GREAT!!! Wishing You many happy miles!!!!
Thanks guys. Great video
Thank You!!! Welcome to The Motoring Show!
Loved 5 door Jimny. Cool. Also check 5 door Force Gurkha from India. A budget Mercedes G wagon.
I’ve had two Gen3 autos and now a Gen4 manual. I agree that the auto is better off-road but the manual is very close as good. Engage LR 1st gear and let it idle/walk across the obstacles, regulate the 5-10 km/h speed with by braking.
Nice video fellas, one question? Is there any possible way to get the rear seat back flat when folded? Can the seat bottom cushion be removed too allow the seatback go flat, or is the seatback hinged to the seat cushion frame?
The 3 door folds to a flat deck but the 5 door is hinged in position. I am assuming that the aftermarket boffins will soon have some sort of solution for this.
THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO
Pleasure!! Welcome to the channel, Part 2 will be up shortly!
waiting for the pickup and 5 door in brazil!!!!
Nice video! Wich tire size does the 3 door has?! Compared to the stock in 5 door!!!??
215/75 Grabbers!
215/75 Grabbers yes. That is the biggest lire you can fit without spacers or a lift kit. A great addition for stability and off road performance.
Both are amazing vehicles in heir own right. Just bought the 3 door as to me I feel it has more charm.
Great video, thanks. Do you have protection for the bottom of the vehicle?
Both vehicles had no modifications, so no protection underneath, neither of the vehicles suffered any damage on these trails. (including the rotator cuffs)
Awesome 4x4 jimmy
They are great cars!!
How many kilometers are you giving them in daily use? Way? How much gasoline does it consume versus the 3-door one?
On our test we did this 4x4 track, around 250km highway and additional 80km of gravel road. Both 3 and 5 door traveled the same roads with different drivers and the 3 door manual returned its usual 7.6L/100km and the 5 door Auto was only marginally heavier at 7.8L/100km. We do go into more detail in the next vid about those figures.
Considering the Jimney down in La Paz, Baja California Sur. Everyone here has really agressive all terrain tires in this sandy beach terrain, while I noticed that your vehicles had something more like normal road tires. I am new to 4 wheeling and wanted to know if the tires are that important and why don't you need more beefy tires? Dave
The five door has the stock "Grand Track" tires on but my 3 door has some General Grabbers on. There are more aggressive and sizes out but to be honest, the little Jimny does not need it. Any 215 section All Terrain tire will do nicely!!
I own both current version jb74 manual and previous version jb23 auto. When I know that the current generation auto is still using same 4 speed gearbox set-up as last gene, I made up my mind buying a manual one. yes, auto is good offroading, you do not have to worry about too much when offroad, but how often do you go off road really. for me, once or twice a year maybe. having a 4 speed gear box is not so good when you are doing normal city driving. fuel consuption will surprise you for such little car, plus my last gene jb23 jimny suffering oil leakage from the gear box all the time. so, I recommand manual over auto
Although the newer version is still only a 4 speed it seems to be perfectly capable of handling the everyday street usage we put it through. As we said in the video, we were both really impressed by it. I think the additional torque, clever electronics and additional of manual H/L gearlever (over the vacuum-based push button type on the Gen 3) is a really nice touch!!!
5 Door Great driving experience india
We definitely agree!!! Welcome to the channel!!
Superb comparo, guys ! IS the 5 door Jimny Made in India ? I bet, it is ! check the OEM plate on the frame at the bottom of the A pillar. I own a 5 door auto here and the highway rides are just smoooootthh...
Thanx!!! It sure is made in India!!
What is the 3 door's tyres? Brand and model?
General Grabbers (local South African Brand) size is 215/75, it works great! Adds significant on road stability as well as off road traction. The tires also have a much higher weight rating, so they are resilient to punctures.
@@TheMotoringShow-ly5yi thank you!
I live in the US, so I will never have a Jimny that isn't 30 years old at this point.
But, isn't there a price difference between auto and manual?
Seems like it would be just as expensive to buy lower transfer box gearing for the manual, if you like to change gears yourself.
Autos are almost always better than manuals nowadays, but manuals are more fun.
Greetings!! Yes, the Auto is marginally more expensive, but after driving them back-to-back both of us agreed that the Auto is just better. Remember that I personally own the grey manual 3 door in the video, so I really wanted the manual to be better. I've also priced a set of aftermarket reduction gears for the manual, and it costs nearly as much as the entire car to import. My next one will be an auto for sure! Welcome to the channel and look out for part 2, it's in edit right now and should be out soon. It delves a bit deeper into both of these cars driving impressions on longer drives.
How do u keep the spare😮 fom getting stolen
Lock nuts are a MUST!!! And pretty much don't park it where You can't see it.......
Does the Jimny in your country have the same engine as in the UK , 1.5 petrol? The Jimny has never had the best durable engine , Suzuki don’t do diesel but I feel it would be better with one , ove r the past 20 years it’s gone from a cheap car to in line with many other vehicles , to expensive for its boots so to speak .
In India its 1.5 r cylinder naturally aspirated… I ve the auto…Really good off-road but a little underwhelming on road… but I take it for 200km drives along highways now and then… u don't get the feel of a turbocharged car…thats all
In SA we get the 1.5L motor, but I must say that none of our test drivers (next vid) found it to be underpowered. The Suzuki brand in SA has a long history of being very reliable and well-priced cars.
Suzuki in Australia has a great reliability history as well. I think the European markets have issues with vehicles because of the colder climates. Lucky to see a frost on windows couple times a year in Southern Australia.
They have proven really reliable here in SA as well! Took mine on a 500km drive through Leshoto (3800m above sea level) and it snowed for 3 days straight. It was EPIC!!
very reliable cars
Nice video guys
But the music is hella weird
LOL, Jip, on our journey with this channel we have found that you very quickly burn through all the nice free UA-cam music......... we are in the process of finding some better royalty free options. Thanx for the feedback!!
3 Door better off road
Misfit nobody is going to be
Lift u the 5 door a little bit and it can take on any obstacle. I will throw in a manual MLD as well.
I want one.
You should!! They are great cars!!! Go test drive one and find out just how cool they really are!!!
@@TheMotoringShow-ly5yi I had a 1988 Samurai, TDI swapped, Toyota axles and transmission. It was amazing. I need 4 doors and sold it. This 4 door Jimney would be perfect.
That 5 door needs lift kit for extreme 4x4
Although the 5 and 3 door models are very capable, I do agree, a lift kit would make either of the two an even better 4x4 when it gets nasty.
The Jimny's low range transfer gear is too high, in the manual, low 1st just doesn't give a slow enough descent on engine breaking and on a slippery surface you can't touch the brakes or you risk losing control, hill descent control doesn't seem to make much difference, a small turbo diesel should have been fitted, it would transform the Jimny offroad. Luckily there are transfer gear options available including one that only alters low range (approx 75% lower) which would make a big difference to the Jimny.
Some good commenting there! Fig and I both discussed this and although the Gen 4 is much better than the Gen 3 it still suffers a bit from speeding in low range.
Tengo una pregunta el Motor es japonés? Gracias
The Suzuki Jimny is Japanese, but some production has moved to India. Here in South Africa, we get the unit assembled in India with early models originating from Japan.
More like jimny auto vs jimny manual.
We did request a manual, but the Auto was such a surprise package I'm glad we to drive it!
If only they had equipped a more powerful engine on that 5 door
Fully loaded it might struggle a bit but with light loads and everyday use the little 1.5L is more than enough for us.
3 Door= Made In Japan
5 Door= Made In India
Our local supply (3 and 5 door) all comes from the India factory.
Doesn't really matter where they build it. As long as it's built to Suzuki's quality control standards.
даже в африке есть пятидверный джимни, а у нас теперь вообще никакого нет
could do without the annoying music
The auto might be better off road but on road its pedestrian compared the the 5 speed and the auto robs the car of any fun or flexibility and kills the speed and these car are not fast also the fuel consumption is poor on the auto .
We did a couple of stand still full-bore acceleration runs from 0-120kph and I was seriously surprised to see that there is zero performance difference between the auto and manual............The fuel consumption on the two vehicles (same roads, same loads) was less than 0.3L/100km different after our test runs so Yes, fuel consumption is better on the Auto but not so much that I would not buy it.
5 doors sucks and looks damn ugly while 3 doors looks awesome and performs better
An rxpensive little vehicle thays not worth it
Buy sonething with more power and space at the same price
This little car is too expensive for its size nd power
What proper 4x4 can you buy for the price? This is not a hatchback, it has a dual ratio transfer case and solid axles front and rear. And it's half the price of the next similarly configured 4x4.
What do you want?
The Jimny has adequate power for off road and freeway driving. If you want a pocket rocket this is not the car for you.
@@TheMotoringShow-ly5yi Well said. People who think it's overpriced simply don't understand the specifications of this vehicle.
😂😂😂😂😂jealous
Hi just to let you know the auto 5 door has a oil cooler for the gearbox integrated with the radiator just go look underneath the car at the auto gearbox 2 pipes come out of the radiator as well I think people should know that as the so called expensive stuff don't have that last you the first journalist's that doesn't speak rubbish about the power of the auto I've had mine for 2 months and it's complete rubbish that the auto can't over take maybe all those idiots should go renew their driver's remember the 2gen golf GTI 82 kw and nobody complained 5 door Jimny 75 kw and you can feel the 7 kw difference nonsense they don't know what they talking about smart phones and dumb people thank you . 13:02
Shot for the info on the cooler! We have the power discussion daily ;) and agree that the performance is more than adequate. Thank You for the compliment!