That was a joke by TheGoldenBolt that people misunderstood, and he admits it in his Ratchet and Clank PSP video (admittedly I also thought it wasn't a joke)
To all the twitch and YT comments talking about the "early 2000s writing" of these games, specifically the misogyny and fat jokes, let me say this: The time period is an *explanation* for the shitty jokes, not an excuse. It being written then instead of now doesn't make it any less yucky and hard to watch, and Penny is completely allowed to react accordingly (I myself was very much cringing or out loud complaining cause some of it is ROUGH). There's plenty of games/media written around that time that don't do this and are still funny! And having nostalgia for these games doesn't remove how uncomfortable the jokes you didn't get as a kid are. All the same, you are 100% valid in enjoying these games. Just remember that people are entitled to their opinions and Penny is allowed to not play games on stream because she doesn't want to. I understand someone not fully enjoying something you love can be upsetting but you cant control how they feel, only how you react to it. I dont wanna sound too preachy tho so just anyone reading this take care of yourself and others, and if you love these games, fuck yeah, more power to ya
superb take.🤌 its good to remember that liking something doesnt mean ignoring flaws/hurtful shit. And def, we cant control how others feel, just how we react to it. Thats such great reminder. ty.
What I've come to realize is an important part of media consumption is recognizing the flaws in media you enjoy. It's fine to like these games as long as you don't claim that they're perfect in every way, because nothing is, and if we don't recognize that we can't improve as a society.
I 100% agree. I personally found some of the jokes funny because I always viewed Daxter as a purposely douchey character, but yeah. The writers definitely took things too far in some cases. There are good ways to write misogynist characters (Johnny Bravo is the shining example of a character who objectifies women because the audience is supposed to see him as the bad guy.)
1:16:57 Oh my gosh, thank you so much for rolling with what I said that "Thats Moo Now is the new Fus Ro Dah." You would swear it was planned with how fast you actually pulled up the Skyrim trailer and then PERFECTLY dubbed over Dovahkiin's shout on the first try. Your improv skills are INCREDIBLE! And, oh my god, the build up just made it even better. Would have it no other way. Thank you so much for making last night one of the best moments ever in my life, Penny.
Seeing someone in chat defend Jak II being called that instead of Jak and Daxter 2 because it would've been "too long" was so confusing, like Ratchet and Clank 2 is right there and it's fine ??? Penny is right why tf did they drop Daxter from the title if he's still there lmao But if that person in chat was joking nvm it just seemed like they were being serious and that's such a dumb reason to drop Daxter from the title
I believe in the UK the game’s title is “Jak II: Renegade” so maybe that’s it? Though being a fan of Kingdom Hearts I’m used to ridiculously long game titles.
@@chef_boysauce4399 makes sense but i kinda hate it lol. there's a R&C game about saving Clank so you only play as Ratchet but its still called Ratchet and Clank. so i get why they did it but it doesnt seem necessary, Daxter is hugely focused on in the game, its not like he's hardly there or anything so dropping the focus on the secondary main character even when he's just as important is odd to me
Was really interesting to hear your fresh takes on this series, sorry you didn't enjoy it so much. If you are interested in seeing what people love so much about this series, there's videos from Breadsword and The Gaming Brit Show that are super high quality and very well written. (Though I can't really excuse the misogyny, didn't click just how bad it could be until I heard you talk about it). Edit: also just wanted to say, I think these games did a lot right to warrant still being considered good outside of nostalgia. I think Jak 2's approach to combat and level design is really well designed, and as a trilogy, there's truly nothing else like it
My nostalgia is probably too strong at this point but I like how it felt like there remained SOME charm to the characters even as the tone shifted. Like....I guess I enjoy that there's a clear good/evil dichotomy? I like that Torn is an edgelord but very much a good guy? Again there's no escaping that it's so far removed from the first game so I wouldn't try to turn Penny on it. It's also a shame that the shitty vignette compilation that was the Jak 3 movie didn't show off the environments of the wastelands. Spargus is beachside and it brings back the sun and some colors and it's a neat looking city. The scale of the driving segments on the god damn PS2 also need to be witnessed to be appreciated.
The last 3D movie I saw was also the first ever 3D movie I saw. Shark boy and Lava girl, but of course wearing the pink Lava girl glasses that came included in the dvd case
i seriously did not realize how much comfort these streams/vods give me- i feel so much more relaxed listening to penny than i do other creators most of the other content creators i watch are straight men and they’re funny ofc ofc! but i feel so much more comfy, relaxed, and related to penny’s content. as a lesbian, i feel at home in these videos and i’ve never felt that before fhhffhhfh thank you penny!!
These really are some of my favorite games, but I'm glad that even though Penny hasn't enjoyed Jak and Daxter (after the Penny Snapcube 2022 Jak II incident) she's still doing the cutscenes on stream for Jak Wednesday closure.
Also I would say largely the nostalgia thing with the Jak games (past the first one) is true. It is definitely more nuanced than that, but I can say with certainty that it is a game series I would only maybe like instead of love if I hadn't been playing it since it came out when I was a kid
what's the incident exactly , if you dont mind explaining? i'm pretty new to her channel, im very familiar with J&D though. was there a particular moment, or just the misogyny/fat jokes/stereotypes in that game?
It's actually kind funny, because Seem actually tells Daxter "Thank you for letting me see the face of my creators" at some point (i'm so sorry i can't find the time stamps) which entirely would spoil the plot twist, except most likely it's not a line you pay attention to, and if you do you're only like "what the fuck" until the reveal happens She also says that Daxter "Bears the colours of the precursors" when Jak first meets her, so there's been hints through the gone, which just makes it all the better that Penny did not expect it
Honestly, it seems like a well set up plot twist. I'm a sucker for twists that have (at least) one extremely clear hint but you don't get it at the time, either because you're distracted or it's a throwaway line. It creates replayability in the sense that you'll watch it back and be like "how did I miss that??" And if you DO catch it, you can wait in anticipation to see if you're right and get the validation of being correct at the reveal. More media should risk the possibility of the audience guessing the twist because I think people will appreciate a set up twist over subverting expectations just for a cheap reveal any day.
@@c1nnamodoll Way earlier in the game Seem also says "you may bear the color of our creators, but.." so apparently he knew from the beginning and just never thought it was vital information or something lmao
Best entertainment when one is sick is to watch Penny's Jak-escapades, from the actual playthroughs to this movie commentary! ✌️ Thanks for making my day!
I did a double take when the Movie Theater asked 2D or 3D for Multiverse of Madness. I had completely forgotten about 3D, my last 3D movie was Spiderverse
2:16:20 I know this heavily pre-dates Penny doing the "you can be cum" jokes on RE4 and Spongebob, but I do lowkey wish some of this bit made it in to the edited version. What a wild watch party this was to watch in full.
Government shit, processing and other shit. Count verger popped out of nowhere and caught some power. Courting public opinion against Jak making her sparing Jak into political suicide. Verger is basically the pope. Edit: I didn't watch it
Growing up with the french version , its crazy how bad some of the casting choices are for jak 2/3 are so bad sometimes , mainly thinking about Thorn and Damas who have actual deep fiting voices in the french dub (and to some extent jak doesn't feel as try hard either but his english VA is also doing a good work) . Also like many said that jak 3 cutscene compilation makes everything confusing , a lot of the dialogue and context is given outside of cutscenes with voicelines but the plot does inded makes a lot of needless trip betwen haven city and Spargus . Also jak X has a killer soundtrack
Keira explicitly states in a cutscene that they warped to the far future, and you see what's left of Samos's hut. I don't get how everyone in the chat is confused about whether this is past or future for so long.
I think the only reason Daxter gets away with as much as he does and is still even remotely endearing is because he's so _ineffective_ overall. He's just a little orange squirt with a whiney voice, it's hard to take anything he says seriously
Honestly, on the one hand, Daxter being an increasingly sleazy gremlin never really bothered me as much as him just *not shutting up* during gameplay... ... but on the other hand, getting the vibrator joke as an adult legitimately made me flinch 0_o
One monk short of a choir? Wow that line flew over my head as a not-so-bilingual kid 🤣 I feel like the dialogue in this game is much better than in the second. Well, the ones in cutscenes at least; a lot of them take place during gameplay, which makes this harder to follow. But the game's plot was always very messy.
I think it's actually a fairly common sentiment that The Precursor Legacy was the best game in the series at least from a gameplay loop perspective. Personally the best Jak game they could make IMO would be with The Precursor Legacy's structure and Jak 3's mechanics.
I only watched my brother play these two games and I never saw that much of them so I used to always think Jak 2 and 3 were these super cool edgy games that I just never played, until this very moment I was under the assumption that Jak 2 was like one of the coolest games ever. I don't like anything about it, it turns out. I uh, tried it after this, I really, don't like it. There's cool story moments though. Spoilers, I guess, if literally anybody cares. Okay but it actually was kind of twist there in Jak 3 because I was assuming Damas was aware that Jak was really his son the whole time but no he just doesn't know it! I thought he was just doing a really really bad job at hiding it from him but no he just really thinks it's all a coincidence!
Jak 3 is much better played then in a compilation, there's not much downtime between missions since they like halved the world structure, and there's a lot of minigames or missions that make the cutscenes make sense, I really think you should try to play 3 on stream, easier, more fun, and more compact while also having more "open world" tasks or things to do. Idk probably bias but I think you're missing out on a lot. Just remember to jump spin and shoot
One thing I didn't get was why Penny was so hung up about Daxter flirting, specifically the part of him not having a human body and the women he was flirting with not caring and still being into him.
I'll be honest, you are partially right about Jak 2 and 3 love being nostalgia. For me personally, I have very little positive things to say about Jak 2 and I can definitely admit that my love for Jak 2 in particular is mostly nostalgia. In fact, I had actually a few months ago went and replayed these games and I made the conscious decision to outright skip Jak 2. Jak 3 however, I genuinely think that Jak 3 is a good game. It's not a flawless one by any means and I will absolutely play Jak 1 over it any day, but there is so much about Jak 2 that Jak 3 fixes. Even if the story is a little bit more disjointed or hard to follow, playing it is actually incredibly fun and honestly I could even make some comparisons to Ratchet and Clank with some of the weapons it gives you this time around. Plus, the presentation for 3 is definitely a step above 2. One thing to note in particular is that the soundtrack was a proper composition with streamed audio instead of using the PS2's midi system. Granted that does prevent them from making the soundtrack dynamic, but then again that was the last straw for you in Jak 2 so it evens out :)
I'm really surprised by two things: 1) All the misogyny in Jak II what the actual hell 2) Everything they ripped off wholesale from Dune. Like really there's so much in both Jak II and 3 that feels like it's ripped straight out of Dune. Granted there's no child who would have both played these games when they came out and have read Dune so of course they got away with it.
@@notoriousjester2593 Honestly, not much. Star Wars did directly take inspiration from Dune, but we know Jak 3 actually based the wasteland off of Smuggler's Run.
it saddens me greatly that your not going to play jak 3. it was the only one I played. but it was my favorite game as a kid. though to be honest I can remember literally zero of the plot. but I loved the gameplay a lot. the guns in this game always felt very special and exciting to me for some reason. and I really enjoyed the riding. both the kangaroo things and the cars.
Honestly I’m with ya with being uncomfortable with certain choices for Jak 2. What is that character design And I had an epiphany just now, Keira is a mechanic she should be fucking buff as all hell! She should be able to pick up Jak with her bare hands!
If your interested there's a really good Jak 3 fanfic called: Nothing More, Nothing Less, by SonicRingNoise on Archive of Our Own if you wanna check it out. I agree with a lot of stuff you said about the problems with Jan 2 and three even though I haven't played them
Still i don't think these two are bad, for me and many other people, but personal critics are still valid Better luck for the next franchises you Will play
Penny, you do realize that Daxter is supposed to be an unlikable asshole, right? There is a reason no one takes him seriously. I say this mostly because you and especially commenters treat Jak 2 as having some kind of "early 2000s misogyny" when really, that whole era of writing would not bother writing Daxter, it would treat these things as the norm rather than the ramblings of a guy the game beats on and makes fun of consistently. Wonder why anyone you are actually supposed to respect never acts like this? Simple, cause it's Daxter being a prick, the character Andy Gavin (iirc) said was the hero you don't wanna be. Not exactly a role model. Like, I don't wanna throw out "media illiteracy" here but you're making it a bit hard. I mean I'm not gonna pretend it's some progressive masterpiece, but I'd argue it's honestly more than what some other series did and still do. Hell, Seem's gender ambiguous in 2004, for a supposedly canonical female character. That's basically the exact opposite of what you'd expect from a game supposedly enabling misogyny.
I feel like every time they put a woman on the screen after the first dirty reference, penny is just waiting to complain about the jokes of the time in the game. We get it.... Its not your cup of tea, its annoying when you go off about it every. Single. Time.
i mean does it matter if i’m “waiting” to complain about weird objectifying humor or not if the fact of the matter is that they DO keep making weird jokes Every Single Time a woman is on screen lmao. like what’s worse: the fact that in this video game a woman can rarely be featured on screen without being objectified in some weird way, or the fact that i like… talk about that and generally find it egregious enough that it’s hard to ignore. i think it’s totally great and fine that the games are appealing and nostalgic and fun for people, but i’m not gonna just brush aside the issues i have with the way they handle the writing on my own stream. especially if, in Jak II’s case specifically, these issues are EXTREMELY prevalent to the point where it feels like there’s not even that much else of worth to talk about very often.
@@SnapCube2 bro there is no issue with that it's the liberal people who makes a problem out of that. back in the days the developer didn't think about "this might be offensive" they didn't give a fuck about feminism ,body positivity or similar crap they developed under free spirit. good times... if you feel so much offended by a videogame you might better touch some grass.
“I would assume that the majority of this weird disjointedness doesn’t have anything to do with the compilation itself but is just the structure of the game” how on EARTH can you say that with a straight face?
Dude I was not saying the game is inherently disjointed, I was saying that since the game’s structure tends to obviously delivers more information in between cutscenes that it doesn’t mean it’s necessarily the compilation’s fault you don’t get every single bit of context. It does what it says on the tin, it compiles cutscenes, it’s not at fault for doing so. It’s just the nature of the game. A lot of games have that problem, and that doesn’t make them bad games nor does it make compilations bad.
I think about how Jak II directly inspired the creation of Shadow the Hedgehog, and boy does it show.
Frfr??? That must be why I think this game feels somewhat familiar to me despite never seeing it before now.
And gta 3 inspired jak ll so shadow the hedgehog was kind of inspired by gta 3 too
Yeah but unlike Jak 2 Shadow is not a well made game at all
Got a source for that claim bro?
That was a joke by TheGoldenBolt that people misunderstood, and he admits it in his Ratchet and Clank PSP video (admittedly I also thought it wasn't a joke)
To all the twitch and YT comments talking about the "early 2000s writing" of these games, specifically the misogyny and fat jokes, let me say this:
The time period is an *explanation* for the shitty jokes, not an excuse. It being written then instead of now doesn't make it any less yucky and hard to watch, and Penny is completely allowed to react accordingly (I myself was very much cringing or out loud complaining cause some of it is ROUGH). There's plenty of games/media written around that time that don't do this and are still funny!
And having nostalgia for these games doesn't remove how uncomfortable the jokes you didn't get as a kid are. All the same, you are 100% valid in enjoying these games.
Just remember that people are entitled to their opinions and Penny is allowed to not play games on stream because she doesn't want to. I understand someone not fully enjoying something you love can be upsetting but you cant control how they feel, only how you react to it. I dont wanna sound too preachy tho so just anyone reading this take care of yourself and others, and if you love these games, fuck yeah, more power to ya
To be honest the jokes are hit or miss and I doubt its what many fans quote or remember fondly.
superb take.🤌 its good to remember that liking something doesnt mean ignoring flaws/hurtful shit.
And def, we cant control how others feel, just how we react to it. Thats such great reminder. ty.
What a based comment 🥰
What I've come to realize is an important part of media consumption is recognizing the flaws in media you enjoy. It's fine to like these games as long as you don't claim that they're perfect in every way, because nothing is, and if we don't recognize that we can't improve as a society.
I 100% agree. I personally found some of the jokes funny because I always viewed Daxter as a purposely douchey character, but yeah. The writers definitely took things too far in some cases. There are good ways to write misogynist characters (Johnny Bravo is the shining example of a character who objectifies women because the audience is supposed to see him as the bad guy.)
Jak when he transforms: *"IT'S MORBIN TIME!"*
1:16:57
Oh my gosh, thank you so much for rolling with what I said that "Thats Moo Now is the new Fus Ro Dah." You would swear it was planned with how fast you actually pulled up the Skyrim trailer and then PERFECTLY dubbed over Dovahkiin's shout on the first try. Your improv skills are INCREDIBLE! And, oh my god, the build up just made it even better. Would have it no other way. Thank you so much for making last night one of the best moments ever in my life, Penny.
I literally said out loud "PUNT HIM" at Daxter when he was being gross at the tattoo resistance lady
Her name is Ashelin
I would adore a jak n daxter dub!!!! Like imagine the bits to come from that, like on the same level of the sly dub, it'd be so good
Oh my God I'm very late but that would be awesome af lmfao
Jak II 'please oh god oh fuck, stop making me think about Daxter's red rocket for two seconds' challenge (impossible difficulty)
Seeing someone in chat defend Jak II being called that instead of Jak and Daxter 2 because it would've been "too long" was so confusing, like Ratchet and Clank 2 is right there and it's fine ??? Penny is right why tf did they drop Daxter from the title if he's still there lmao
But if that person in chat was joking nvm it just seemed like they were being serious and that's such a dumb reason to drop Daxter from the title
I believe in the UK the game’s title is “Jak II: Renegade” so maybe that’s it? Though being a fan of Kingdom Hearts I’m used to ridiculously long game titles.
They dropped Daxter from
the title to help drop the focus on the ‘animal mascot’ and help signify the huge tonal and overall game shift
@@chef_boysauce4399 makes sense but i kinda hate it lol. there's a R&C game about saving Clank so you only play as Ratchet but its still called Ratchet and Clank. so i get why they did it but it doesnt seem necessary, Daxter is hugely focused on in the game, its not like he's hardly there or anything so dropping the focus on the secondary main character even when he's just as important is odd to me
Was really interesting to hear your fresh takes on this series, sorry you didn't enjoy it so much. If you are interested in seeing what people love so much about this series, there's videos from Breadsword and The Gaming Brit Show that are super high quality and very well written. (Though I can't really excuse the misogyny, didn't click just how bad it could be until I heard you talk about it).
Edit: also just wanted to say, I think these games did a lot right to warrant still being considered good outside of nostalgia. I think Jak 2's approach to combat and level design is really well designed, and as a trilogy, there's truly nothing else like it
I can second the breadsword video. So great and really details what the games do so right.
My nostalgia is probably too strong at this point but I like how it felt like there remained SOME charm to the characters even as the tone shifted. Like....I guess I enjoy that there's a clear good/evil dichotomy? I like that Torn is an edgelord but very much a good guy? Again there's no escaping that it's so far removed from the first game so I wouldn't try to turn Penny on it.
It's also a shame that the shitty vignette compilation that was the Jak 3 movie didn't show off the environments of the wastelands. Spargus is beachside and it brings back the sun and some colors and it's a neat looking city. The scale of the driving segments on the god damn PS2 also need to be witnessed to be appreciated.
Your views on fictional morality terrify and upset me, but you technically have done no wrong
@@Lucifersfursona ?
I just realized, both games have 1 obvious twist right before an actual twist
The last 3D movie I saw was also the first ever 3D movie I saw. Shark boy and Lava girl, but of course wearing the pink Lava girl glasses that came included in the dvd case
i seriously did not realize how much comfort these streams/vods give me-
i feel so much more relaxed listening to penny than i do other creators
most of the other content creators i watch are straight men and they’re funny ofc ofc! but i feel so much more comfy, relaxed, and related to penny’s content. as a lesbian, i feel at home in these videos and i’ve never felt that before fhhffhhfh
thank you penny!!
Movie starts-ish @ 33:25
These really are some of my favorite games, but I'm glad that even though Penny hasn't enjoyed Jak and Daxter (after the Penny Snapcube 2022 Jak II incident) she's still doing the cutscenes on stream for Jak Wednesday closure.
Also I would say largely the nostalgia thing with the Jak games (past the first one) is true. It is definitely more nuanced than that, but I can say with certainty that it is a game series I would only maybe like instead of love if I hadn't been playing it since it came out when I was a kid
what's the incident exactly , if you dont mind explaining? i'm pretty new to her channel, im very familiar with J&D though. was there a particular moment, or just the misogyny/fat jokes/stereotypes in that game?
Penny Snapcude 2022 incident?
@@jaydenmcfarlane27 there was a point in her jak ii stream where she got so fed up with it that she decided to quit streaming it
It's actually kind funny, because Seem actually tells Daxter "Thank you for letting me see the face of my creators" at some point (i'm so sorry i can't find the time stamps) which entirely would spoil the plot twist, except most likely it's not a line you pay attention to, and if you do you're only like "what the fuck" until the reveal happens
She also says that Daxter "Bears the colours of the precursors" when Jak first meets her, so there's been hints through the gone, which just makes it all the better that Penny did not expect it
Honestly, it seems like a well set up plot twist. I'm a sucker for twists that have (at least) one extremely clear hint but you don't get it at the time, either because you're distracted or it's a throwaway line. It creates replayability in the sense that you'll watch it back and be like "how did I miss that??"
And if you DO catch it, you can wait in anticipation to see if you're right and get the validation of being correct at the reveal. More media should risk the possibility of the audience guessing the twist because I think people will appreciate a set up twist over subverting expectations just for a cheap reveal any day.
i believe "Thank you for letting me see the face of my creators" is at about 4:01:14
@@c1nnamodoll Way earlier in the game Seem also says "you may bear the color of our creators, but.." so apparently he knew from the beginning and just never thought it was vital information or something lmao
4:18:19 She wished for a pair of pants like those not to change species what do you mean be careful what you wish for
Try some punctuation my guy, this was a nightmare to read
AW HELL YEAH MOVIE NIGHT WITH PENBY
Best entertainment when one is sick is to watch Penny's Jak-escapades, from the actual playthroughs to this movie commentary! ✌️ Thanks for making my day!
1:01:25 Jak has a spine now and we need to remove it
I did a double take when the Movie Theater asked 2D or 3D for Multiverse of Madness. I had completely forgotten about 3D, my last 3D movie was Spiderverse
2:16:20 I know this heavily pre-dates Penny doing the "you can be cum" jokes on RE4 and Spongebob, but I do lowkey wish some of this bit made it in to the edited version.
What a wild watch party this was to watch in full.
1 min of this 4 hour stream was better than the entirety of morbius.
I love how in Jak 2 and 3, Penny was like "that can't be the twist, it's too obvious" and as it turns out no, it was just actually that obvious.
T h e v a l v e
1:49:18 "That's rough buddy"
4:08:48
"AAAGGHH! VEGER!!"
"LIQUID!!" "SNAAKE!!"
"KENNYYYYYYYYY!!"
Same energy.
3:54:07 Wait if she has the political power to do that why wasn't she able to stop them from banishing Jak in the first place
Propaganda i guess
Jak 3s story is messy af
Government shit, processing and other shit. Count verger popped out of nowhere and caught some power. Courting public opinion against Jak making her sparing Jak into political suicide. Verger is basically the pope.
Edit: I didn't watch it
Growing up with the french version , its crazy how bad some of the casting choices are for jak 2/3 are so bad sometimes , mainly thinking about Thorn and Damas who have actual deep fiting voices in the french dub (and to some extent jak doesn't feel as try hard either but his english VA is also doing a good work) . Also like many said that jak 3 cutscene compilation makes everything confusing , a lot of the dialogue and context is given outside of cutscenes with voicelines but the plot does inded makes a lot of needless trip betwen haven city and Spargus . Also jak X has a killer soundtrack
“You need a hug, Jak? Cause we've got plenty to go around!” That makes my skin crawl in several different directions
Keira explicitly states in a cutscene that they warped to the far future, and you see what's left of Samos's hut. I don't get how everyone in the chat is confused about whether this is past or future for so long.
this video deserves more likes and views
I think the only reason Daxter gets away with as much as he does and is still even remotely endearing is because he's so _ineffective_ overall. He's just a little orange squirt with a whiney voice, it's hard to take anything he says seriously
i know nothing about these games but you’re very cool and funny penny
1:47:18 Penny I unliked this video just so I could like it again for that bit 🥰
58:46 metal pipe sfx
2:57:59 back from break
For some (probably good) reason I completely forgot just how yikesy most of Jak 2's script is. Holy shit.
Honestly, on the one hand, Daxter being an increasingly sleazy gremlin never really bothered me as much as him just *not shutting up* during gameplay...
... but on the other hand, getting the vibrator joke as an adult legitimately made me flinch 0_o
One monk short of a choir? Wow that line flew over my head as a not-so-bilingual kid 🤣
I feel like the dialogue in this game is much better than in the second. Well, the ones in cutscenes at least; a lot of them take place during gameplay, which makes this harder to follow. But the game's plot was always very messy.
I still don't get the joke 💀😭
Penny, idk if you can see this but pressing the "," and "." buttons while on youtube walks backwards and forwards by one frame respectively.
3:21:30
Amazing
I think it's actually a fairly common sentiment that The Precursor Legacy was the best game in the series at least from a gameplay loop perspective. Personally the best Jak game they could make IMO would be with The Precursor Legacy's structure and Jak 3's mechanics.
jak x combat racing says hi
I only watched my brother play these two games and I never saw that much of them so I used to always think Jak 2 and 3 were these super cool edgy games that I just never played, until this very moment I was under the assumption that Jak 2 was like one of the coolest games ever. I don't like anything about it, it turns out. I uh, tried it after this, I really, don't like it. There's cool story moments though.
Spoilers, I guess, if literally anybody cares.
Okay but it actually was kind of twist there in Jak 3 because I was assuming Damas was aware that Jak was really his son the whole time but no he just doesn't know it! I thought he was just doing a really really bad job at hiding it from him but no he just really thinks it's all a coincidence!
Jak 3 is actually fun to play unlike 2, also I know you've already played them before, but I'd love to see some Aly cooper streams someday
Jak 3 is much better played then in a compilation, there's not much downtime between missions since they like halved the world structure, and there's a lot of minigames or missions that make the cutscenes make sense, I really think you should try to play 3 on stream, easier, more fun, and more compact while also having more "open world" tasks or things to do. Idk probably bias but I think you're missing out on a lot. Just remember to jump spin and shoot
Almost as good as Morbius
Re "timoncore" Max Casella was Timon in the original Broadway cast of The Lion King
1:05:40 for poop
Am I allowed to go to sleep to this stream also?
One thing I didn't get was why Penny was so hung up about Daxter flirting, specifically the part of him not having a human body and the women he was flirting with not caring and still being into him.
MAR??
you should do a vexx movie night :]
I'll be honest, you are partially right about Jak 2 and 3 love being nostalgia. For me personally, I have very little positive things to say about Jak 2 and I can definitely admit that my love for Jak 2 in particular is mostly nostalgia. In fact, I had actually a few months ago went and replayed these games and I made the conscious decision to outright skip Jak 2. Jak 3 however, I genuinely think that Jak 3 is a good game. It's not a flawless one by any means and I will absolutely play Jak 1 over it any day, but there is so much about Jak 2 that Jak 3 fixes. Even if the story is a little bit more disjointed or hard to follow, playing it is actually incredibly fun and honestly I could even make some comparisons to Ratchet and Clank with some of the weapons it gives you this time around. Plus, the presentation for 3 is definitely a step above 2. One thing to note in particular is that the soundtrack was a proper composition with streamed audio instead of using the PS2's midi system. Granted that does prevent them from making the soundtrack dynamic, but then again that was the last straw for you in Jak 2 so it evens out :)
I'm really surprised by two things:
1) All the misogyny in Jak II what the actual hell
2) Everything they ripped off wholesale from Dune. Like really there's so much in both Jak II and 3 that feels like it's ripped straight out of Dune. Granted there's no child who would have both played these games when they came out and have read Dune so of course they got away with it.
What exactly did they rip off from dune besides the desert setting?
@@notoriousjester2593 Honestly, not much. Star Wars did directly take inspiration from Dune, but we know Jak 3 actually based the wasteland off of Smuggler's Run.
Very nice 👌
it saddens me greatly that your not going to play jak 3. it was the only one I played. but it was my favorite game as a kid. though to be honest I can remember literally zero of the plot. but I loved the gameplay a lot. the guns in this game always felt very special and exciting to me for some reason. and I really enjoyed the riding. both the kangaroo things and the cars.
She said she was going to play it in her own time 👍
@@oivatank ok. well that's a bit better. sad were not going to get to see it though.
@@oivatank That’s good, Jak 3 may be top ten material for me
Doesn't she talk about Jak Poppin behind Jak
So no subtitles... could we get a dub of the whole trilogy? Would make it epic
Honestly I’m with ya with being uncomfortable with certain choices for Jak 2. What is that character design
And I had an epiphany just now, Keira is a mechanic she should be fucking buff as all hell! She should be able to pick up Jak with her bare hands!
If your interested there's a really good Jak 3 fanfic called: Nothing More, Nothing Less, by SonicRingNoise on Archive of Our Own if you wanna check it out. I agree with a lot of stuff you said about the problems with Jan 2 and three even though I haven't played them
Still i don't think these two are bad, for me and many other people, but personal critics are still valid
Better luck for the next franchises you Will play
Who else seen this music video of Jak&Daxter?
ua-cam.com/video/w6ajrFsOKTw/v-deo.html
I LOVE IT SO DAMN MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I clicked so fucking fast
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Nahhhh, Jak 3 is the best out of the franchise. You actually have to play the game to get the full experience
She said she’ll eventually play it in her own time. She just doesn’t like them as stream games
i feel like jak 3 largely plays like a compilation of racing minigames
wow you really didnt even give the 3rd game a shot?
She said she’d play it on her own time. Jak II really wore her down and she was not enjoying it as a stream game either
I heard Jak and Daxter are coming back with a movie
Jak 3’s story is just Kingdom Hearts bbs; Veger is literally Xehanort
I’m waiting for this person to go live on UA-cam at least once unless I already missed that
Penny, you do realize that Daxter is supposed to be an unlikable asshole, right? There is a reason no one takes him seriously. I say this mostly because you and especially commenters treat Jak 2 as having some kind of "early 2000s misogyny" when really, that whole era of writing would not bother writing Daxter, it would treat these things as the norm rather than the ramblings of a guy the game beats on and makes fun of consistently. Wonder why anyone you are actually supposed to respect never acts like this? Simple, cause it's Daxter being a prick, the character Andy Gavin (iirc) said was the hero you don't wanna be. Not exactly a role model.
Like, I don't wanna throw out "media illiteracy" here but you're making it a bit hard. I mean I'm not gonna pretend it's some progressive masterpiece, but I'd argue it's honestly more than what some other series did and still do. Hell, Seem's gender ambiguous in 2004, for a supposedly canonical female character. That's basically the exact opposite of what you'd expect from a game supposedly enabling misogyny.
The first and only movie I saw in 3D was toy story 3, it changed literally nothing
Why does he speaks like shadow the hedgehog?
Jak just has...0 charisma as a speaking protagonist. it was a mistake to let him talk lmao
Jak as a character is definitely bland and dry as hell compared to the other PS2 platformer series Ratchet and *especially* Sly.
I love Penny, but pointing out the obviously now-cringey 2000's-era dialogue every time it happened got very annoying very quickly.
It's not about it being "cringey", it's the repulsive misogyny that wasn't okay even at the time.
In a world where everyone and theyre mother praises this game. We need to acknowledge the cringe. Then we can embrace it
I agree, the dialogue is what it is and at the time, it was somewhat acceptable, but pointing it out EVERY time it happens is a little excessive.
i'd put the blame on the horrible objectifying writing and not on the reaction streamer doing reactions and having to react
The dialogue itself is a lot worse than her reactions
I feel like every time they put a woman on the screen after the first dirty reference, penny is just waiting to complain about the jokes of the time in the game. We get it.... Its not your cup of tea, its annoying when you go off about it every. Single. Time.
i mean does it matter if i’m “waiting” to complain about weird objectifying humor or not if the fact of the matter is that they DO keep making weird jokes Every Single Time a woman is on screen lmao. like what’s worse: the fact that in this video game a woman can rarely be featured on screen without being objectified in some weird way, or the fact that i like… talk about that and generally find it egregious enough that it’s hard to ignore. i think it’s totally great and fine that the games are appealing and nostalgic and fun for people, but i’m not gonna just brush aside the issues i have with the way they handle the writing on my own stream. especially if, in Jak II’s case specifically, these issues are EXTREMELY prevalent to the point where it feels like there’s not even that much else of worth to talk about very often.
@@SnapCube2 bro there is no issue with that it's the liberal people who makes a problem out of that. back in the days the developer didn't think about "this might be offensive" they didn't give a fuck about feminism ,body positivity or similar crap they developed under free spirit. good times... if you feel so much offended by a videogame you might better touch some grass.
Jak shows attraction.SnapCube :eww…lol
Wow some people do not have braincells in these comments im so sorry penny..you were real as fuck for everything you said about these games!
“I would assume that the majority of this weird disjointedness doesn’t have anything to do with the compilation itself but is just the structure of the game” how on EARTH can you say that with a straight face?
Dude I was not saying the game is inherently disjointed, I was saying that since the game’s structure tends to obviously delivers more information in between cutscenes that it doesn’t mean it’s necessarily the compilation’s fault you don’t get every single bit of context. It does what it says on the tin, it compiles cutscenes, it’s not at fault for doing so. It’s just the nature of the game. A lot of games have that problem, and that doesn’t make them bad games nor does it make compilations bad.
Mad Cuz Bad
She literally says the difficulty is fine lmao
@@PyeFive yeah sure lol