You compared the 65mm on the Sony E-Mount system to 50 f/1.8 and 50 f/1.4 ZA, but what about the very popular 55 f/1.8 ZA that is much closer in terms of the focal range and price?
Great review. There is also the exceptionally great Voigtländer 65 mm manual focus lens for e-mount, the Zeiss 55 f/1.8, the Zeiss Loxia 50 f/2.0, and the Samyang 50 and 75 mm, and I probably forgot one or two or more 😉
The 65mm sounds like a very nice focal length - longer than 50mm, but not too tight. Good for taking pictures of people. And with high mpx cameras, I was expecting all brands to move a bit to wider focal lengths for versatility - you can always crop.
Def didn't expect the review to be on the L-mount. Good work, team. I am used to the Sigma stuff being reviewed by the "pro's" on a Sony body, and never on the L, so people are always like, "It shoots so fast," but then you buy it on L and you're all like, "Uh, no. Uh, nope, sir." I bought the 35mm 1.2 from Sigma twice to use on L, thinking I might've had a bad copy the first time. Nope. I just couldn't use it for what I normally shot, which was sports and entertainment at the time. Beautiful renders, but impossible focus in CAF.
Very nice short overview, but I've definitely noticed the missing comparison with Sony 55mm 1.8 which is closer to 65mm than 85mm is. As well as some other options in 50/85 group (as well as 70-180/200, which are almost 65).
Great review, as usual! I shoot Nikon Z, but I adore these lenses. Sigma is killing it with lenses (and always have! My favorite and first was the 30mm 1.4/f APS C lens from back in the day and now the 35mm 1.4 Art for FF). Magnetic filters are great and they look great size and bokeh-wise.
Some reviewers have noted that these Sigma lenses have a lot of distortion. Can you input their lens profile in the camera to compensate for that distortion same as you can do on a Sony camera? If not, how do you deal with that distortion?
Funny - as a Nikon shooter I don't plan on buying either lens, but I enjoy watching Chris and Jordan so much that I will watch the video anyway!! Hands down the best gear review videos online.
Thank you. The focus breathing test (35mm f2) was the deal-breaker for me. The Sony 35mm 1.8 is the better option for video in terms of focus breathing (with very little).
I know this is an older video but wanted watch it because I have both the 35mm and 65mm Sigma lenses and also enjoy watching videos where Chris is scared of his own shadow cast by a lens with 35mm focal length. Take care.
You're both wrong (and right, I guess) - 35mm and 65mm both rock! Admittedly, I'd rather go 35/85, but 65 is also really cool and there are enough 85mms, so I'm still happy they went for the 65. Those sharpness tests definitely looked like stopping down, while not increasing sharpness, adds contrast.
really hope they’ll make an 85 2.8 and 18 2.8 those would be perfect for the a7c and it’s kit lens: ultra compact and aperture ring (this camera only has 2 gears) 🙏🙏🙏please sigma
I’m with Jordan, why a 65mm focal length for full frame unless it’s a macro lens? I do like the DG DN series though. I have the 30/1.4 for my A6000 and it’s wonderfully built and operates beautifully. You can find real bargains on the used market.
This episode was shot with the FX6, not the FX9. But I do agree, it makes a big difference. Hoping to get my preordered one in early:-D I plan to do a review comparing it to the Canon C70, of which I have already made a few videos about on my channel. If you have any ideas for the comparison be sure to comment.
Wait... Did you just call the Sony Zeiss 50/1.4 "kind of lackluster"..? ua-cam.com/video/MYl6-PCrd5c/v-deo.html That's literally the first negative comment I've ever heard from anyone about that lens. Hope you can test it again one day. My experience, it's the finest fifty I've owned in forty years of working professionally. The ZA got me to sell my Otus 55. The only lens I've found that comes close is the Sigma 40/1.4.
This is sharper than the 35 FE and 35 Samyang f/1.8, confirmed by many sites, it's actually just as sharp as the 35 f/1.2 Sigma. Check out the LensTip, Cameralabs, TheDigitalPicture analysis and comparisons of this lens. Best Sony FE 35mm lens until the GM comes out. DustinAbbott also compared it with the Sony and Samyang.
@@niccollsvideo because you have to purchase an mc-11 adapter to use it on my Sony A7ii. Is the 24-70 the better choice because you dont have to use an adapter?
Are these lenses weather sealed (as in, seal at every moving point), or do they only have 1 seal at the mount? I thought it was the latter but would be happy to be wrong.
What kind of metal is it ? Is it really weather sealed ? I heard it's only at the gasket level, so how would the lens reacts to some light rain or just ambient humidity ?
Waw I can't believe you said that, I don't like 35mm! I have the Zuiko 35mm F2 and it's the only reason I would consider getting 35mm milc. I find it and the 50mm F1.4, 28mm F2 about all the lens I need...Can I ask why it so big compared to Zuiko 35mm F2, I thought Milc was meant to make it smaller...
Are they really weather sealed?? On their website says only mount is weather sealed, doesnt say anything about rest of the structure?? Does anyone know? Thanks!
65 remind me of old film Zenith camera with helios 58 f2 prime. It was "standard" shoot-everything lens at that time and it was enough :-) But Sony has got excellent 55 f1,8 Zeiss so I dont think this lens will be very popular.
Loving it. I have one on preorder that I will be comparing to the C70 in an upcoming video on my channel. I’m surprised you haven’t done a C70 video yet? In any case I’m mighty interested to hear your take on this camera. I recently got back into Sony, so it’s going to be this or stick with Canon. I keep up the good work!
I bought every L lens (except tilt and anything over 200) before I bought a 35mm 1.4. If I had to do it all over again, I'd buy a 35mm 1.4 first and just the 135.
Thanks for the checking out the lenses, fellas! And don't worry Chris, the 35mm we sent you was confirmed 100% evil-free before leaving the factory.
I know I probably won't get an answer, but are there any plans to release a 500/600mm 5.6/6.3 prime for birding?
@@jillianangell2570 No plans that we know of, Jillian. Any new products would be announced publicly by SIGMA Global.
great lenses, the I line up is great for those looking small quality primes, they are like Sony-crons :)
55 1.8 Zeiss.. AM I dead to you Chris?!
Yeah it's actually quite good👌👌
The Sigma 70mm Macro might also be an alternative.
That was exactly my thought. I would have loved to hear how this one compares to the Sigma
That's the (nice) problem..there are so many in e mount around 50mm... We got manual voigtlanders too...
My favourite lens!
You get an honourable mention in my review Chris...
yes, heard it
You got em beat Gordon !
I appreciate it Gordon. It's an accurate statement too!
4:55 Jordan remembered the Summicron-SL, but forgot the F/1.2 ;)
Who gets first place?
You compared the 65mm on the Sony E-Mount system to 50 f/1.8 and 50 f/1.4 ZA, but what about the very popular 55 f/1.8 ZA that is much closer in terms of the focal range and price?
It’s a great lens - but breathes like a dragon. Still: terrific.
I love you guys...here I am a non Sony shooter watching a video about E-Mount lenses...why...because I love you guys!
Great review. There is also the exceptionally great Voigtländer 65 mm manual focus lens for e-mount, the Zeiss 55 f/1.8, the Zeiss Loxia 50 f/2.0, and the Samyang 50 and 75 mm, and I probably forgot one or two or more 😉
Actually ... 6 * 5 * 65 / 5 + 65 + 65 + 65 + 65 + 6 + 5 + 5 = 666 ... 😂
Noooooooo!!!!!!
Now, that's a conspiracy theory I can get behind.
The 65mm sounds like a very nice focal length - longer than 50mm, but not too tight. Good for taking pictures of people. And with high mpx cameras, I was expecting all brands to move a bit to wider focal lengths for versatility - you can always crop.
Def didn't expect the review to be on the L-mount. Good work, team. I am used to the Sigma stuff being reviewed by the "pro's" on a Sony body, and never on the L, so people are always like, "It shoots so fast," but then you buy it on L and you're all like, "Uh, no. Uh, nope, sir."
I bought the 35mm 1.2 from Sigma twice to use on L, thinking I might've had a bad copy the first time. Nope. I just couldn't use it for what I normally shot, which was sports and entertainment at the time. Beautiful renders, but impossible focus in CAF.
You forgot Sony Zeiss 55mm/1.8. How does that compare to 65mm/2?
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS MY STRUGGLE WITH THE 35!!!
I've learned to like it but dang is it awkward
@@TheSpaceBrosShow yeee
@@TheSpaceBrosShow Haha I also find 35mm is an awkward range. Wide but not wide enough.
I'm glad they came out with these lenses cause I hate...and I mean I really hate...less expensive, wider aperture, sharp lenses.
That 665 - I was thinking the EXACT same thing!! 😜 Love and miss you guys!
I have follow this channel for 2 years, not just because of the content, but i like how Chris talk. Haha
you forgot about the voigtlander 65mm f/2, and the sony 55mm f/1.8, on the e-mount, they are the real competitors :)
love to see a comparison between the very good Samyang 75mm F1.8 V the Sigma 65mm
Just see Christopher Frost's review. He got a pretty good objective test for both
Very nice short overview, but I've definitely noticed the missing comparison with Sony 55mm 1.8 which is closer to 65mm than 85mm is. As well as some other options in 50/85 group (as well as 70-180/200, which are almost 65).
Great review, as usual! I shoot Nikon Z, but I adore these lenses. Sigma is killing it with lenses (and always have! My favorite and first was the 30mm 1.4/f APS C lens from back in the day and now the 35mm 1.4 Art for FF). Magnetic filters are great and they look great size and bokeh-wise.
Chris's E mount list left off the close-to-65mm 55mm Zeiss, which is pretty darn good.
Gawd, i love you guys. Don't ever leave dp review.
Dpreview left them
@@DimplePoji no $#!+. i wrote that comment 3 years ago ahhaha.
Some reviewers have noted that these Sigma lenses have a lot of distortion. Can you input their lens profile in the camera to compensate for that distortion same as you can do on a Sony camera? If not, how do you deal with that distortion?
Funny - as a Nikon shooter I don't plan on buying either lens, but I enjoy watching Chris and Jordan so much that I will watch the video anyway!! Hands down the best gear review videos online.
Perfect commentary on the Denver Broncos’ season - discarded.
Love that Sigma is making these smaller yet very sharp lenses. Bokeh on the 65 seemes pretty smooth too.
Thank you. The focus breathing test (35mm f2) was the deal-breaker for me. The Sony 35mm 1.8 is the better option for video in terms of focus breathing (with very little).
Jordan wearing a flat brim cap:
- photography skills improved +80%
I know this is an older video but wanted watch it because I have both the 35mm and 65mm Sigma lenses and also enjoy watching videos where Chris is scared of his own shadow cast by a lens with 35mm focal length. Take care.
You're both wrong (and right, I guess) - 35mm and 65mm both rock! Admittedly, I'd rather go 35/85, but 65 is also really cool and there are enough 85mms, so I'm still happy they went for the 65. Those sharpness tests definitely looked like stopping down, while not increasing sharpness, adds contrast.
65 mm is similar with crop medium format with 80 mm standard lens. Actually 65 mm very nice to use focal lenght once you get used to.
Chris had to do a lot of math right there lol
You guys have the best job on earth
Nice lenses.
One thing to remember for L-mount is the 85mm f1.8, and a few more f1.8's coming - 24mm, 35mm, 50mm, which will all be the same size!
And the price?
@@yoginwidhi6676 599-699
There are no only to options for 35mm on L-mount. There is also Sigma 35mm 1.2
The most interesting option too, wayyy better than the 1.4
Could you pit them up against the Samyang 35/1.8 and 75/1.8 please?
Ask Christopher Frost to do that
According to LensTip review that 65mm is one of the sharpest lenses for Sony E.
How about a short video about the new RAW video firmware from Olympus?
Did Chris just send us off with an "oki doki"?
really hope they’ll make an 85 2.8 and 18 2.8
those would be perfect for the a7c and it’s kit lens: ultra compact and aperture ring (this camera only has 2 gears)
🙏🙏🙏please sigma
Z6 ii review please
I’m with Jordan, why a 65mm focal length for full frame unless it’s a macro lens? I do like the DG DN series though. I have the 30/1.4 for my A6000 and it’s wonderfully built and operates beautifully. You can find real bargains on the used market.
Thank you for focus breathing test. 👍
Wow, Fx9 makes a lot of difference
This episode was shot with the FX6, not the FX9. But I do agree, it makes a big difference. Hoping to get my preordered one in early:-D
I plan to do a review comparing it to the Canon C70, of which I have already made a few videos about on my channel. If you have any ideas for the comparison be sure to comment.
I was thinking it looked better before he mentioned he was shooting of the fx6. I wonder if they'll do a full review
Compact, nice build, a real aperture ring! and nice IQ...
Waiting for the review of the 24mm…
color grading is top notch as always !!!
Like your review. Talking about the Sony FE options you forgot probably the best available lens close to the 65. The Sony Zeiss 55 1.8.
Sony has a 55mm 1.8 that you didn't mention
It's pretty much Sony's best prime for that range. I use it 90% of the time and I own some nice GM lenses.
Wait... Did you just call the Sony Zeiss 50/1.4 "kind of lackluster"..?
ua-cam.com/video/MYl6-PCrd5c/v-deo.html
That's literally the first negative comment I've ever heard from anyone about that lens. Hope you can test it again one day. My experience, it's the finest fifty I've owned in forty years of working professionally. The ZA got me to sell my Otus 55. The only lens I've found that comes close is the Sigma 40/1.4.
It seems Jordan is becoming more of a hybrid shooter, good on ya :)
This is sharper than the 35 FE and 35 Samyang f/1.8, confirmed by many sites, it's actually just as sharp as the 35 f/1.2 Sigma. Check out the LensTip, Cameralabs, TheDigitalPicture analysis and comparisons of this lens. Best Sony FE 35mm lens until the GM comes out. DustinAbbott also compared it with the Sony and Samyang.
The aperture ring is handy for the A7C.
Now that Canon has some IBIS on the R5/6 I'm interested to see a 70-200 shootout between their various f2.8 and f4 lenses with/without lens IS.
And the 55 f1.8 sony/zeiss??
Jordan won the photography contest‼️🙃
Very nice Sigma. Neat lenses.
What about Samyang/Rikenon 35mm f1.8 half price of this Sigma and Sony
You forgot to mention the excellent Samyang lenses! I really hope some portable primes come to the z system. Really lacking in that area.
Not so excellent. I had two copies of the samyang 35mm 1.8 and both were pretty awful on the right frame - poor QC
I want to see Jordan running again in slow mo......EPIC.
I'm here to watch the beautiful city
How about sony's 55mm
Will you make a video on the new Sigma 105mm Macro? If so, I would really love an in-depth LoCA comparison!
Great Video!!
Uh.. what about Zony 55 1.8?
i think its a bit more expensive? so they didnt put it into the video
I have just ordered the 24mm version for Sony
Judging by the mental state of Chris, he isn't far from saying ""neekong" for a year now.
finally a good 35mm option in e-mount.. oh wait... :D
nice review - which is your favourite lens? :D
what camera bag are you using Chris? Nice video!
I hate 35 too! Get this I just bought the Sigma 1.2 35mm lol hope I don’t regret it!
My GAW that FX6 footage looks amazing. Did you shoot this in S-Cinetone, or Log3 and then grade?
Thanks... great mix of informative & humour :)
Can the 65mm be an everyday lens and not just portrait shooting. Trying to decide now between the sigma Art 24-70 & Art 24-105 and now this 65 mm
It's an awesome everyday lens. I'd use it as a walk around normal lens anyday.
Maybe we should think of it as an "everyday lens with social distancing built in"...
@@niccollsvideo but if you had to choose between this lens and the 24-70 Art lens. Would the 24-70 be a better everday lens? Or the new 65mm
@@maxxr07 Oh I'd almost always choose a zoom if I only had one lens. It's hard to beat the versatility of a 24-105 or 24-70 when your out and about
@@niccollsvideo because you have to purchase an mc-11 adapter to use it on my Sony A7ii. Is the 24-70 the better choice because you dont have to use an adapter?
... this sounds good. I mean the 1.4 and 1.8 are quite expensive. Good but expensive.
But I do like the idea of going down to f2.0 ... mmm !
I like the humour in the intro. LoL
How are the Sigma 65mm compaired to Voigtländer 65mm 2.0 APO Lanthar ?
check fredmiranda forums, there is a comparison there (spoiler it's almost identical)
65mm IS a little odd for full-frame, but on a Sony APSC body it's a 100mm equivalent.
The perfect, classic portrait length.
What is the approximate focal length when doing close environmental portraits with the 35mm?
Are these lenses weather sealed (as in, seal at every moving point), or do they only have 1 seal at the mount? I thought it was the latter but would be happy to be wrong.
What kind of metal is it ? Is it really weather sealed ? I heard it's only at the gasket level, so how would the lens reacts to some light rain or just ambient humidity ?
Can’t wait till they come out with a 66mm
Waw I can't believe you said that, I don't like 35mm! I have the Zuiko 35mm F2 and it's the only reason I would consider getting 35mm milc. I find it and the 50mm F1.4, 28mm F2 about all the lens I need...Can I ask why it so big compared to Zuiko 35mm F2, I thought Milc was meant to make it smaller...
Can't find Voigtlander (such as 58 1.4, 40 1.2 etc) reviews on your channel here, sadly
Chris forgot about the 55mm 1.8 Zeiss, didnt he
Chris thinks the 50mm f1.4 Sony Zeiss is lackluster???
Fun review. I'm sad about the discarded Broncos hat. Was that Evelyn from the Camera Store? Clearly, I watch too much UA-cam. 🤠
Rumors have it that she is married to Jordan. 😉
E mount, I would go for the Zeiss 55mm f/1.8 over the Sigma 65mm.
Dang, I have the devil 665 35mm with my apsc
Nice jacket, Jordan 😜
How do these lens perform for video ? Would you recommend for video
Are they really weather sealed?? On their website says only mount is weather sealed, doesnt say anything about rest of the structure??
Does anyone know? Thanks!
A few questions, are they it focus by wire? Do they have hard stops?
65 remind me of old film Zenith camera with helios 58 f2 prime. It was "standard" shoot-everything lens at that time and it was enough :-) But Sony has got excellent 55 f1,8 Zeiss so I dont think this lens will be very popular.
Would the Sony FE 55mm f/.8 the most direct alternative to the 65mm?
I am curious on what lens did you guys used for 0:30 ? looks awesome. Thanks great video.
Sony 24-105mm F4 G. Great standard zoom!
This episode looks absolutely stunning. FX6 in S-Log 3?
Testing out the Cinematone. I enjoyed it!
Loving it. I have one on preorder that I will be comparing to the C70 in an upcoming video on my channel. I’m surprised you haven’t done a C70 video yet? In any case I’m mighty interested to hear your take on this camera. I recently got back into Sony, so it’s going to be this or stick with Canon. I keep up the good work!
Does the magnetic filter adapters (Xume) work?
Nice and quick. Like it.
And I agree with Chris conspiracy theory. Just like with his Metric to Imperial conversions. They're absolute.
So what about micro four thirds? A 35mm lens there is a nice short telephoto lens.
How the manual focus feel of this lenses? Is it linear focus or not?
I bought every L lens (except tilt and anything over 200) before I bought a 35mm 1.4. If I had to do it all over again, I'd buy a 35mm 1.4 first and just the 135.
N'oubliez pas le Sigma 1.4/35mm DGN Art !