Armored core lore: X Sombrero/Fragile
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2021
- A look into the special craft from Aspina. Its pros, cons and how this craft was never meant to be a fighter. But in the end became a machine feared thanks to its non human pilot.
Found in Armored Core for Answer - Ігри
We all bow to my thin boi
One of my favorite NEXTs to pilot. So fast and I believe you can mitigate the energy concerns with a stronger generator because the MGs are so light.
You can! Though I did not modify fragile for this showcase. Its is possible to fit fragile with a number of generators to handle this issue.
Pair your "you can't hit what you can't see" with a "you can't dodge what you can't see" and that's my experience with AC4/FA in a nutshell...
That's fair i still to this day struggle with some of the speedy crafts.
Quick correction: Fragile is encountered as an enemy in "Defend Line Ark" alongside Otsdarva, which means it's impossible to face him outside of the arena on a first playthrough. Oddly, there's nothing even _suggesting_ that CUBE is a cyborg in the Japanese version, which makes me wonder if that's the result of a translation error, much like the gender of Anatolia's Mercenary in For Answer's arena.
Personally, I never cared much for using the X-SOBRERO model. It staggers too easily and only really hits consistently if you can keep your target in the dead-center of the screen, in my opinion. This makes the optimal weapon for this NEXT not machine guns, but missiles. While the model is easy to make a "perma-flight" build, I feel doing so hinders its offensive abilities in a massive way.
Fair correction of the mission name and from my time with AC now it is very much possible with translations.
Fragile is exceptionally effective at destroying the cradles. I remember wondering if it was purpose built for this when I first tried this.
Sadly you are right. In the test runs I did fragile took the cradles down very effectively. Old King was very happy.
@@armoredcorelore you too are now cursed with the knowledge.
@@armoredcorelore Have you noticed the parallels with 4th gen AC and the French Revolution?
@@osakanone oh you mean a very few nobles having all the wealth and food. While the people they say they protect suffer from poor health, hunger and having a terrible time in general watch as these nobles waste resourses and trade them among one another as if there is no a limit on them. Leading to a revolution with the death of many nobles and common people while others simple flee to save their hide.
@@armoredcorelore Yes, but also look into character names and the events themselves. Maximilien Robespierre during the Thermidorian reaction? Johann Nepomuk Malzel and his mechanical turk? March du supplice? Hector Berlioz? This is not coincidental at all.
One of the strangest ACs ever built, especially since it’s one of only 2 ACs not built by a corporation, the other being White Glint.
Another interesting point that is sort of unrelated to the video. Fragile is said to be a cyborg in the American version, but it is not said in the Japanese version. Importantly, human plus users in previous games grant abilities that NEXTs have by default, making us speculate if all Lynx are Cyborgs.
Aspina is quite an interesting colony all things considered.
This is true as I have a Japanese version of the game myself to confirm. Hmm speculating that myself too as if this was the case could it be that AMS of a pilot can be measured because they are cyborgs? Or this becoming one a way to enhance it?
@@armoredcorelore First, is there a way you can translate Fragile’s Japanese text to English? I need to be sure if he’s a cyborg or not.
I do wonder if every Lynx is a cyborg in this case? Including our player character in 4 and 4A.
@@andrewrogers3067 Hmm I'd have to dig it out first. Maybe i could rip the text from the disk or take a photo and find a translator. I'll look into it.
@@armoredcorelore Well, I'd always assumed AMS is a system involves some kind of neural interface. When Fragile goes down, Cube (the pilot) mentions something about "energy flow reversing from the AMS." Seeing as that clearly causes him a lot of pain, we can assume its wired into him somehow, and I'd imagine that's the case for other Lynx as well. I think compatibility is just an innate trait of LYNX, and measures how efficiently the brain interfaces with the AMS (hence why pilots with lower compatibility like Roadie tend towards heavily armored craft that are less reliant on razor sharp reflexes to pilot). Also, Lynx kinda sounds like "links," which means nothing but is still kinda an odd coincidence :P
Cube may have some extra augmentations we don't know about, but I think a certain amount of implants may be required to pilot a NEXT in the first place.
@@oh-no-its-clara7574 I admit reading through this my mind instantly went to Gundans iron blood orphans and how they operate their mobile suit. I do like the idea of enhancements as i like to think it would explain a lot of things. Like during the mission vs wonderful body where he starts to move odd. This could of been a malfunction of the enhancements or the lynx inside pushing the next to hard making it stutter and move oddly as it tries to process the information .
I bolted machine gun arms onto an Eklakh frame with Scylla, the light grenade launcher and the fast radar booster. Fragile hated that. I did greatly enjoy jockeying it, however
Neat and as someone who got wreaked by fragile many times i approve.
i played through all of AC4A's missions as Fragile as a challenge. it was a real learning experience. One of the things I found was slightly retuning to increase my vertical thrust: by maxing my VT, I'd either briefly thrust upward or cut my boosters in the middle of quickboosts and it made 3d evasive maneuvers extremely fluid and fun.
Oh it is an experience and thank you for sharing yours. It is good to hear people are giving these Nexts a go.
@@armoredcorelore i really appreciate this whole channel. I've had a love for gen4 AC for a very, very long time, and AC has a large problem with how poorly archived it is.
@@DarkSoulsSauron Well I hope to change that. Thanks again for your comment.
the accuracy of fragile's arm weapons arent brought down by the machinegun itself, but rather the horrible overall stats of the actual arms. ive tried using the aspina machineguns on other arms, and they fare pretty well
Since I've been playing through AC4A again I remembered an old therory I've had. That CUBE is Joshua O'Brien, or more likely what's left of him after AC4. Maybe someone pulled him out of that craft after the battle and modified his body to save his life. Or just trying to preserve his talent. That trauma could have shaped his personality into CUBE's.
Him being the only cyborg in the game just seems a bit weird. Also the part about the inhumane battle capabilities, I'd expect you'd still need someone with good AMS aptitude and skill as a basis to get to this level.
Also the devs put in effort to make the parts used coherent to the craft's or pilot's story, not just suited for the fighting style. So looking at how this is an Aspina craft with some Omer parts... fits Joshua and what happened to him pretty well.
And that logo.. the hand letting go of the white dust? Could be nothing, could be another hint.
In addition to that, it's weird how CUBE was put into the mission where you fight alongside White Glint. Though that could also have been because of other reasons, like countering WG's speed or Aspina helping in this due to the past ties with WG. If CUBE was Joshua it would be a bit poetic for him to find an end in that battle.
I know the cyborg thing is only mentioned in the english version. Though I don't know if that's pulled out of thin air or just the english version spelling something out the japanese one only hinted at.
im playing verdict day, after that i will play for answer,cant wait,verdict day mechs are alright but damn they still look smaller and weaker compare to acfa designs
Oh my.... you're actually on to something. That's a genuinely credible theory
The hand letting go of the dust is Joshua O'Brien holding the ashes of his burnt down colony
Great work on the videos! It’s nice to see Armored Core series talked about.
I relish fighting him in defend White Glint on Hard Mode.
ive found that lightweight, fragile and high speed frames excel at combat with blades.
i actually just dropped ranged weapons altogether unless absolutely necessary to get the most mobility out of parts from sombrero and lahire, and then went out and S ranked every normal and hard mission pretty easily.
all you need is spacial awareness and suddenly youve got an instant death machine that will kill everything with 1 or 2 clean hits as long as you can line up a shot
should be noted this isnt without tuning. everything went into making it do 1 job, and do it the best.
so if you were to try and play it any other way itd quickly fall apart
Thanks for sharing, i might have to try out a blade only fragile later.
@@armoredcorelore it works best with quadroped legs cuz the double blade attack turns into a charging stab
I've been on a gothic x machines and mechs grind lately and this frame is hitting that aesthetic in a way. I never got to play any of the original Armored Core games. So I'm looking forward to the 6th one. Hopefully we get multiple variants of this. I saw a different version of it on Amazon that sold out
It is quite the design for a next and having parts like this in AC6 certainly would give the AC's character.
Thought I could fight it in free battle with scatter missiles to deal with the fact that it zoomed around all over the place. It's gun barrage blew my missiles up as they left my barrel and took the last 70% of my health in an instant.
Ah the yes joys of machine guns VS missiles. I did the same with my GA sunshine build, had to go for a pair of rifles in the end.
I tore through the arena fights with a soluh frame with the MG arms and rhat chain gun. The utter DPS it puts out is NUTS
It is truly terrifying with how much fire it can lay down.
i love watching the content
everytime
Placing the chainguns on a light quad-legged blade NEXT can be highly effective at ending fights quickly.
I love this design! Thanks for the videos!
Thank you for your kind words.
I'm wondering if the existence of Fragile is a link to AC1 where the player can become a cyborg for failing too many times. Perhaps CUBE is very old and was dug out by a struggling Aspina. The other possible link is that in the last level of Armored Core the area is inhabited by floating three dimensionally moving cube machines. It could be CUBE is the last of the Human Plus program that kept humanity hiding underground.
It looks so funky. But that makes it cool.
Cool and fun to zip about in.
I know im late and idk if i still have my save but funny enough you CAN build this thing have infinite energy. it just require a lot work and tuning. One i have on save was basicly a work with other people see if we can make fastest with a lot energy recover. Sadly the cost of low hp require you play this VERY carefully as you put it and you need cant play energy with this build as well,
Neat, i think this just shows how creative the ac community can be.
@@armoredcorelore this honestly one build remember being weeks worth of trial and error really does show how community can come together and find funny or best way to create and learn. after learn do infinite energy we try see if we could apply other builds to many trials and error it was really fun tuning and building AC based on other AC already build or Newly combination ones.
For some reason this reminds me of the Firmeza build. It would be nice if they add something like this in AC6
Ah from does like to touch base with old ac designs in new games.
@@armoredcorelore if only they made all the ac games available for pc but that’s just me wishful thinking though
I think it would be neat.
I'm loving every video you have uploaded!!! If I may ask, are you planning on branching out to the other games (like 3, 2, Last Raven, V, etc?)
Can't wait till next video comes out!!!
That will be the plan. Just having some technical issues on my end at the moment, so videos will resume soon.
The overboosters also boast the most powerful assault armor in the game.
Arquebus would melt down in jealousy if they saw this
I know a lady who would love to mess with Fragile.
I remember when i first fight Fragile in rank match
I'll be honest, it's really frustrating to me who build heavy type AC like GA
My first weapon are Gatling and Rifle with back weapon are missile and cannon
I miss all my shot with fragile literally dodge side way non-stop but i manage to win against him because he use up all his machine gun and chain gun ammo and all he does is side way boost entire time while i just continue firing my Gatling and rifle
Took more than 5 minute to finish the fight against fragile
Ah i know the feeling. My GA sunshine in for answer had a similar loadout and it was an up hill battle sometimes with speedy foes like fragile and anyone with an energy weapons who made the armour points tumble. Still thanks for sharing, it stories like this that show the different experiences people have with the game.
Honestly fragile was just annoying to fight, i dont know if my game was bugging out both times i fought them but they would fly to the other side of the map and randomly boost side to side refusing to get close, took six minuets of firing my back mounted snipers before they went down.
I ran out of ammo fighting him in the arena and had to resort to a sword. He also ran out of ammo. It was horrible. Lol.
Ha ha I am sure it was quite the experience. The question is did you win?
@@armoredcorelore I did. With that horrible backup blade that you can store instead of a pistol. I prefer the SOLO plasma rifle because it makes a good weapon normally on a lightweight craft but I figured that if things are bad enough to resort to a backup weapon, unlimited ammo is better. Plus I'm no master, but I'm not too bad with the swords.
Well points to you for that. It nice to hear about these experiences and what it leads too. My skill with nexts is pretty lacking but i do enjoy watching the pvp matches that are around.
@@kikiblair5132bruh i tried for 15 minutes to hit him with a blade after both ran out of ammo and i simply COULDNT hit the dude. after the 15 minutes i LANDED a single hit but the game didnt register it or he just dashed before it connected. needles to say i rage quit. if you have any tips beating the dude im lostening😂
@@junkiealex4187 It's not just hard to blade him, it's also scary to do so if you're unaware that he has Assault Armor capabilities.
Fragile is the only Lynx that has a NEXT so fast that it wouldn't be wrong to play Bang Bang by K'NANN, Adam Levine because personally this is the Armored Core equivalent of Gauss Prime.
Fragile GMV? ha ha
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@@hilbert7179 a very long time ago on youtube and even now I imagine people used to make videos called amv, anime music videos where they would take clips from the anime and a popular song and try to make a music video from it. For video games version if this idea where called gmv. Game music videos. A lot of darker songs used to used like the animal I have become and such.
I know. But, now that you mentioned the idea of a Fragile GMV.
@@hilbert7179 well if it's made I will comment and watch it.
Please do my Aaliyah next. Speed frames are life.
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having used similar ACs in a competitive environment, the real value of the back mounted chaingun is pressure. being *constantly* pelted with bullets is stressful and distracting. mixing the arm mounted and back mounted weapons can create a more dynamic threat, where enemies will spend resources staying out of the back cannon's hail of bullets while actually taking damage from the more poweful but less conspicuous hand weapon.
its odd energy use reflects a different style of combat than most ACs. called "lockbox evasion" in previous generations. this thing doesn't want to evade projectiles, it wants to avoid the enemy's firing arc altogether. if you want to dodge bullets with quickboosts, you only want to spend enough energy to get out of the way. what fragile is trying to do is avoid any bullet you *could* throw at him by flinging his entire AC behind you.
Never been in the competitive side of ac, but always nice to hear about the thoughts and ideas from there.
CUBE: Your review of my NEXT is 101% accurate. You did well in making it a boring informative, but at the same time, you are warning about the usage of this Armored Core. No one, except me, should pilot this thing without writing a last will or testament. If you like, you can forgo your humanity and be one with machine if desired.
N O I C E
Thank you.
When they say cyborg is it a transition error? Did they mean Android
Like the how the androids in DBZ are really cyborgs
Because when they say stuff like non human capability, cyborgs are still human. Maybe I’m just thinking about it the wrong way
It's a good question and to be on the nose about it, No in fact its a question of if Cube is even a cyborg? As the USA version states the LYNX Cube is a cyborg while the Japanese version of the game does not make this claim about Cube.
So either error in translation on this fact or someone adding their own idea into the pot?
From my own perspective, I believe Cube and some other Lynxs are humans that have been enhanced with machine parts to give them these non human capabilities making them more cyborg then android.
@@armoredcorelore yes I remember this but of trivia
My head cannon has always been that Cube is an AI because, while I don’t remember has big Nexts are compared to people. Stasis never looked spacious enough to house a pilot.
Good work though, Keep it up!
@@greatgamersguild Thank you and It is a neat head cannon you have there. After all we have ai controlled crafts in the series so it works nicely.
Nine Ball Prototype?
Ah umm this is a real point for me with the lore. Because in AC4 Nine-Ball was mean to be either number the 23 or 29 original Lynx if I recall the number correctly. But turned out to be some GameStop exclusive or in my countries case never happened. I'm stilling looking for a picture or any evidence of this just to put it to bed really.
how do i unlock this frame ?
Now your testing the memory banks. I know you get fragile from beating him in his order match and as for the sombrero i believe its after you work with white glint. But give me some time and i will have an solid answer for you
@@armoredcorelore thanks for replying 🤗 I just finished all 3 endings and finally unlocked it in my garage
@@haloRew Well I m glad to hear this. I've been trying to speed run the game along with keeping up with today's video release. I'll make a note of this as well as there is no information on how these unlock for players.
@@armoredcorelore awesome 😁😁😁 can't wait for your next video
wow
Gross and one of my least favorite NEXTs. The model is very strange and most of its stats are terrible (looking at you arms). I experimented with it some to make a few odd builds and tried out the Fragile loadout myself, but this kind of glass cannon that depends on wearing down opponents instead of a 1:1 armor/damage trade just isn't for me.
Also, beating Fragile in the arena was not very hard. I fought him with a medium-heavy squad build using sniper rifles, missiles, and Assault Armor. Although I ran out of ammo for my weapons quickly, I was able to plink down his AP very quickly, and when he ran out of ammo from being unable to deal any significant damage, I killed him with AA in only two bursts after a lengthy chase.
Reminds me of a Manta Ray.
I can see it.
The least fun Collard Rank battle in the game
That's fair. I know i found it tough, but then i know others who found the fight very easy.