I'm considering getting two of these. I'm a hammock camper so I am thinking about putting straps on one for the under quilt and leaving the other as is for the top. I appreciate that you brought this gear to the channel. That last video you posted has been added to my saved favorite list on youtube. I didn't even have a list till that video! Thank Darwin!
LOVE my Enlightened Equipment Revelation 20 deg quilt. It absolutely rocks. Good thing about the quilt in warmer weather is it can be opened up and vents well. But this would be a great alternative for my scout sons who camp often and don't need to take their bulkier cold weather mummy bags on every adventure. Thanks for the great vid as usual.
Dear Darwin, I just discovered your videos this week, really like them! One thing I would like to see, being European, is additional (text) metric sizes. Currently I'm just googling the relevant ones, but for your European audience, it might be neat! Thank you for your videos! Cheers
MrSuperbasch You mean, for at least a couple of billion people since it is used all over the world. Plus, the metric system is the official system of measure of science,
Great review! I recently switched from the SnugPak Hammock Quilt to the Aegismax and got a compression sack for my WarBonnet Blackbird XLC. I always bring the bug net and winter top cover for the hammock (just in case) so there is no real weight savings there. The Aegismax, however, saves me more than a pound of weight and with everything in compression sacks I've got a complete shelter system (hammock, tree straps, whoopies, biners, bug net, winter top cover, tarp, sleeping bag and liner) in a package just a little bit bigger than two twenty ounce water bottles. It may not seem like much, but considering that just a few years ago a decent sleep system would take up half your pack, that's super impressive. I'm a bigger guy, which means all my clothing is bigger and heavier and every cubic inch saved is super valuable. Thanks again for the great review!
I just ordered a western Mountaineering Megalite. It's a 30° It's roomy and I plan to use it as a quilt & I could get the Agismax as a liner for when it's colder to combine the two for lower temps.
I have this bag. Wash it in Nikwash and it changes the bag immensely but I think it is really a 50 degree bag. I have the M2 as well. That is a great 3 season bag.
Hi Darwin, usually for these brands those temperatures rates are limit temperatures. Therefore you are right about 40 - 45º. The model M2 (400 grs filling) has a 35º rate.
Having looked round a whole load of reviews, the consensus seems to be that this one is more or less a 40°F / 5°C bag, and the M2 is more or less a 30°F / 0°C bag. Obviously everyone sleeps differently and wearing more clothes or using a bivvy bag would improve those ratings. Also many people say washing both these bags in down wash as soon as you get them helps a lot.
And for $85 they also offer an envelope style sleeping bag that fully unzips to make a quilt. I ordered one last night to replace my woobie blanket for summer camping. I'm 6'3", so I sure hope that it fits. For the price I don't mind taking a chance because my EE quilt set me back $358.
I don't like the confinement of mummy bags either. Since I switched to a quilt I'll never go back. Here's the link: www.amazon.com/AEGISMAX-Urltra-Light-Sleeping-Urltra-compactable-200CM-80CM/dp/B01M0L3IA0/ref=pd_sbs_468_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01M0L3IA0&pd_rd_r=8N81P7HEGKJ82D4AJ16P&pd_rd_w=KEGFa&pd_rd_wg=EZoRU&refRID=8N81P7HEGKJ82D4AJ16P
Yeah, I've seen that. Might have to pick that 1 up too for a review. I'm also not a huge fan of mummy stay bags anymore, but for the price & weight it was hard to beat this one. Thanks for Watching! Hike On, Darwin
It fits great and is better quality than I expected. It is tapered, meaning that it is about 8" wider at the shoulders than at the feet which is what I was hoping for. It weighs in at 20.5oz. The compression sack that it comes in is too small in my opinion because it compresses the down to such an extreme that it takes the quit a few hours to fully fluff back up, so I use a larger sil-nylon stuff sack that I had. It also comes with a nice storage bag. I have used this quilt for about a week and it is true to it's rating (45 F). The only problem that I have is that after a few nights the down seems to travel down towards the foot and so I have to shake it out upside down every few nights to even out the down. Overall, this was an excellent buy at just $85 and I recommend it. It is not as nice as my Enlightened equipment quilt, but it is comparable and a lot less expensive.
45F with just base layer? do you think with a really thin 100 microfleece or similar would it be ok in 32F/0°C? and about the down rolling off.. didnt it have sewn baggles? i mean, it rolls on its baffle or ALL the way down? (pun not intended) how easy it was to fluf it back up after it? thank you! if this bag works it would be really great.. [Background] - I live in Argentina, where the usual salary is not much higher than 500dls - and that basic salary isnt enough to live but thats totally aside - things here, the few that actually reaches the country are WAY too overpriced. If you try to buy things from outside the country..well, before (it was a dark age for that..) you couldnt even buy internationally.. now, you are limited to 2kg/200dls and USPS, with a 50% tax on the product pricetag, or UPS but only 5 shippings anually per person, and yest they charge taxes too (the company)...that, avoiding the "uh, im sorry we dont ship to argentina..yes to literally every other country around you, but not you!" policy everyone including amazon has. So, yeah, for me is, this (on aliexpress, USPS) or a kelty cosmic down 20 which it may be confortable to a bit lower temperature but is almostdouble the price (with taxes), WAY heavier and bulkier and i owould need to wait someone that goes to USA to buy it..
The larger version of this bag is good for a large 6"0, 220lb ASM. Wash it with Nikwash first. The M2 is a better 3 season bag, but for warm nights it works great.
Thanks Darwin. I have ordered an Aegismax M2 in a long. Planing on some fall hiking in the US and hoping the M2 is good enough. I'll test it in the Australian winter.
I own one of these, if you hold it up to the light you will see that the fill is very spotty...you will have a lot of gaps in the fill... Cold spots....now if you use this in very warm summer months ...you might get by with it for a week, but I would not recommend using it for your full-time bag, the construction is at best medium quality...
I’ve used the Agismax UL on a number of trips this last year. Great bag for the price. Having broad shoulders, I use mine like a quilt. I would rate this bag in the 40F range. Anything less than that and you will get chilled if you don’t wear warm clothes to bed.
Mine arrived today. I'll be wearing some extra clothes as the temperatures are supposed to dip just below 40. I wanted to take a couple more pounds out of my pack as I'm going on a steep and long hike. I'll report back when I return.
@@tomcosgrove8005 not my idea of a good time. I'd recommend this bag only for summer trips where you know it's going to be warm at night and you have a good pad. The first night I slept in the ground and had a 1.5R pad with a fly over the top. It worked ok. The next night I didn't have a good spot so I pitched my hammock. A storm system moved in and I tossed all night. If I hadnt packed a puffy I would have been in big trouble. Since then I've picked up a 20 degree bag that's about 3.5 pounds and infinitely more worth it and a one man tent. My sleep and shelter system is about 3 pounds more now but I can be out in sub freezing conditions with more safety margin This bag is good for the weight but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
A pound is real light. Maybe you could get two and use one as a bag liner. What temperature could you get down to with nesting two of them together to use as one?
Hi Darwin. Which size bag did you review - the regular (170cm/5'7) or large (190cm/6'3)? The reason I ask is because I'm 5'3" and I do pull my quilt over my head at times. So, I'm wondering -- if yours is a regular and it comes up to your neck, do you think a regular will for me? And thanks for sharing this video. Loved it.
Hey Darwin, your videos are very helpful and informative, and have helped a lot in my decision making, when purchasing gear! Thanks so much for your videos! Keep up the excellent work!!
I wondered if the AegisMax stuff was any good or just junk. Thanks for the review. I need something even lighter for summer camping and they have lots of options for 55 or higher bags too.
Darwin - I've been doing sections of the NCT from MI to MN since mid June. I've spent many nights with this bag. End of August, temps at night dropped to 30 in MN with daytime rain adding to the fun. For my old bones, thus bag works just fine. With more and more nights dropping between 30 and 40 coming up, I'm considering adding a layer when I head back out for my next 212 mile section. For anyone considering this bag I'll mention I am about five-ten & also a side sleeper who likes to curl his legs up. I am just comfortable with the size. Would I like it a little bigger? Heck ya. Am I thrilled with it as is for the price? Heck Ya. Side Note - I'm thinking you reviewed the gear top tent I have been using too. Also a great budget item.
I'd say 40° is about right. For $107 there's another Aegismax on Amazon has about 6 more ounces of down (420grams) that should be good down to 25-30°. Also on Amazon there is a related bag called "Wind Hard" (used to be Aegismax wind hard) that is an EE revelation clone except Its sewn through and can be worn as a poncho rated 32 ° 850fp and exactly a lb. for $105. Hard to beat those options for a full 3 season down bag for a hundred bucks.
Did you get the Large or Regular size? I'm 6'3 so I'm looking at the Large....I don't need it to come over my head but I want it to be up to my neck and sinch up tight while not being ridiculously cramped up in the feet. Thanks!
Hey Darwin! Absolutely, love your channel! Your gear reviews (especially budget gear options) are amazing! Which size bag did you review for this video? Was it the 180cm × 78 or the slightly longer/wider one at 200cm x 86cm? Thanks!
What if you turn it into a quilt. Make a cut out, then use the extra down to make this make go down to a colder temp, if you know someone who sews this could be a good option.
Need! 👍. I'll be soon in Iceland and your tips and advices are a great help to prepare my trek. Would be fun to see you one day on a trail in Iceland or north Europe. A lot to embrace there.
Would you still recommend this today or do you have something else you’d recommend? I need something for when it’s not cold, I got something for when it’s cold
Hey Darwin, What size aegismax is that? it looks like the mini (180cm) is 15 ounces. Do you fit in the mini? Im 6"1' and have a difficult time deciding which size to get
What about the logic of spending about $25 more and getting AegisMax with a 0 degree rating and leaving it slightly open if it is too hot? I have read reviews of this particular one you reviewed maybe not being enough in the 30-40 degree range. Those temps seem normal enough even in the spring or fall if it is a lower temp night. I guess I'm saying, it happens often enough to warrant the lower rated temp bag. Help me if I am missing something. Thanks! Great videos btw. Honest assessments. Much appreciated.
Not sure which bag you're referring to but the M3 (Comfort:+0°C / 32°F Lower Limit:-5°C / 23°F Extreme: -22°C / -8°F) I think is a bit warmer than the one I think you're talking about but judging from my experience with the bag Darwin reviewed (Ultralight: Comfort:+11° C/52° F/ Lower Limit:+6° C/43° F/ Extreme:-9° C/15° F), without a tent I'd say that the M3 was only good to around 28F. You can probably drop another 8F or so with a tent and an insulated pad. I'm thinking of getting the M3 but YMMV. Note: I got my temp ranges from the Amazon listings but AegisMax (on their website) lists just -5C (23F) for the M3, which if you add a few degrees for my fudge factor seems about right.
Darwin, Your videos have really inspired me to start hiking, and I was wondering where you get your propane for the litemax stove/ BRS stove, keep up the awesome videos, Matt
Tempting but a waterproof shell seems odd. Curious about breathability and whether this would convert well to a hammock top quilt by removing the zipper?
hate to say it, but he's fos with it being silnylon. The EE bags aren't made of silnylon either. those would be a gross sweat box if that were the case.. on the amazon listing it says it's waterproof, but I highly doubt that.. maybe water resistant?
Hey Darwin I was thinking about picking up this quilt until I saw the Aegismax Wind Hard which is 15 ounces as well but seems to be warmer. Any thought on the two that could help me make a decision ? Keep up the great videos !
Hey Darwin! Love the videos brother. You've truly inspired me to just get out there and hike! Keep up the awesome work and I look forward to see what else you have in store! See you on the trail brother. Hike on, Shadowswhite
@@DarwinOnthetrail Hey Darwin, thanks for such inspirational and informative videos! Q: Do you know anything about the HG Economy Burrow UL Quilt as an alternative to this or have thoughts on HG products?
:) looks good; I have however absolutely frozen at night in the desert - after burning up in the day .....certainly worth checking out. Thanks for the heads up
Hello Darwin the sleeping bag in the link that you have in the description below has different weight specifications than what you stated in the video. Can you verify that the bag in the link is the same one that you are talking about in the video? I definitely think I want to buy this, what do you think about the quality so far?
Hey Darwin - you should review the AegisMax UL Lento Sleeping bag its about 350g full Goose Down (warmer than this one) and about 550g in total...Im planning to do the Milford Track, Abel Tasman and Mt Ruapehu in New Zealand this summer and would LOVE to see it the bag really works? Or an alternative quilt :) Love ur videos !!!!
Hey Darwin, how is the breathability of the Aegismax bag? I see the inside is the same 20d nylon as the outside, and I have heard their previous stuff needs you to wear a base layer to not be damp inside the bag. They also make a quilt (aliexpress is cheapest), it's 850fp and packs down near as small.
hey Darwin! You mentioned this bag is more of a quilt, but when you lie in it it looks like a typical mummy sleeping bag. Would it be possible to unzip the bag, place the sleeping mat inside it to use as a top quilt? Thanks very much :)
I used a Big Agnes Grouse Mountain 15. Liked it alot, but it was definitely overkill. Thanks for Watching & showing some Romania Love!! Hike On, Darwin
I got the black version of this bag after your review. It's superlight, warn and awesome. Only issue I have with it is the amount of static charge it builds up, when I take it out of the big stuff sack (the white non compression one) that it came with I can hear cracklings of static shocks. Does this happen to you as well?
Wish it was synthetic and not down- really not a fan of down. I’ve always used snugpak bags- take a hit of weight penalty but quality and warmth is excellent
Hey Darwin, have you used it often in the last two years? Do you have anything to add after a long-term use of the aegismax?? It's still on the market, and thinking of buying it, so I'd like to hear reviews from long-term use.
Hello MarinosCh, you can find reviews on several website which selling this, like amazon and aliexpress, instead lots of chinese customs bought this on Taobao, though the review is all in Chinese, may use the translater haha. Besides, from what I heard this headless sleeping bag completely worth the price, it use Tory iFlex 20D nolyon as a shell, and the 800fp goose down inside it is not DWR down or RDS down, but the loftness worth the price. For me I will not choose this,because my goal is to be lighter and lighter, also I may sometimes go through some cold areas, and I need something to be warm enough as I am a cold sleeper. To be honest I haven't meet anyone who is colder than me in the Winter, Shanghai. I use a customized backless headless ultralight quilt which made in Hebei, China, 700g 900fp white goose down(not DWR down), 10D nlyon(21gsm) and these raw materials are all made in China , it cost 230USD, its a little expensive for normal hikers but may a bit cheap for ultralight hikers. Cheaper thinks may not bad then expensive one: the Tory iFlex20D nolyn is heavier than the 10D nolyn but must be more durable. Hope this helps.
Any ideas to add 10-15 degrees to this bag- I mean aside from wearing your puffy/fleece/long johns? I sleep on the cold side and probably would always wear long johns and warm socks. Thanks.
Hey darwin i was wondering, when you said on the 40s and not the 30s..you mean just the base layers? im curious if it would work fine down to 0°C (freezing, 32°F) with just a lighweight merino base layer and a lighweight (100) fleece or something similar
I am very skeptical of the advertised temperature ratings. Sorry I don't know how it's called in English, but the sewings traverse the whole thickness of the bag. In other words, at the stitchings, the thickness of down is zero. In my experience, it really cannot be any good at low temps.
You have a longer version indeed. It comes in 180 m and 2,0 m long I'm 1.80 high and have the 1,80 m version and fits just fine, but for you i will recomend the 2,0 m long. $ 75 on amazon. I'm from Spain, sorry for my English
From what I understand there are in-fact 2 different versions of the bag. One being a little longer than the other. Thanks for Watching! Hike On, Darwin
Hey Darwin, at 6'5", will I be able to fit comfortably in the bag like you, or will I be unable to get the bag comfortable over the shoulders? Ei do you have 3-4" of room or is it tight on the shoulders for you?
Never mind, reading about it, it says it is 200cm, or 2M or just over 6'6" and that is for just above the shoulders, so anyone under 6'8" should be find, it I buy this I will add my review to this page. Drawin's link is to the 200cm bag, there is talk of a 180cm bag, but it is not from Drawin's link.
Been tossing around a purchase of this bag for quite awhile and am nearly there. Just saw a review about a chemical smell, does it have a chemical smell?
Hi Darwin! I've been watching your videos for ages and you are one of my favorites. I have a request/question. It's not something I see often. But could you and snuggles do your favorite Summer/hot weather gear? I can find tons of cold weather but no hot weather. I live in South Alabama and anywhere around here is hot and humid a majority of the year. I would greatly appreciate yalls recommendations and keep up the amazing videos! Lots of love from Alabama! Jessica
Hey Darwin, Love your videos. I am looking at getting a pair of camp shoes for backpacking. I have looked at crocs and other options. what are your opinions and what do you use? Pros and cons?
I used to use Camp Shoes (Vivo Barefoot), but I have since ditched them. Because I use Trail Runners, I just change my socks at camp & wear those. Thanks for Watching! Hike On, Darwin
Great review. Thanks. Do you have plans to review the geertop tent you recommended in your last video. I'm very interested in it but can only find one review of it. Would like your opinion on it.
Hi, backpacking newbie here trying to buy all my gear to get started. I'm on a low budget and would like to save cost. I've been doing ALOT of research. I'm getting a used REI Half Dome 2+, Klymit V Static pad, and a Teton Sports 4000 65L pack. I am stuck between Hyke and Byke 550 fill 35 degree bag and this bag you reviewed, which is 800 fill. Any suggestion on which one I should get? I'm planning on 30-40 degree nights at the lowest. My budget for the sleeping bag is $100. You mentioned this bag should be good to 40-45 and maybe I can get a liner for colder situations? Or maybe I should just invest in a warmer bag... Please help and thank you.
Hi Darwin -- hey just a friendly comment, and I'm by no means an expert on this, but I think a concern is "responsible down" vs "irresponsible down". I probably got the terminology wrong but maybe the idea is that a review of down products might want to make that part of the discussion. If I get an inexpensive product (aegis ultralight sleeping bag?) only because of the suffering required of (China?) geese then I might want to pass on it and instead pay a bit more on something less heavy handed on the animals. As we all know "animals are people too". Hey keep up the good work. I'm jealous of your lifestyle!
Not sure if you have done a video on colder sleeping bags, but is there a budget light weight cold weather sleeping bag? That one would work good in the summer, but up north here in Idaho, I have seen -25F where I'm at. Would like to find a budget bag that can at least go to 0-5F that's light weight. I can always add a liner if needed, but something closer to 0F would be nice.
Hello D.A., Not sure what you mean by budget but AegisMax seems to have "budget" (low cost for the value, but really long ship times) bags. Their page for under -25C (under -13F) lists some bags in the $200+ dollar range and their most expensive model, the G5, lists -22F which with my fudge factor puts it at -17F. I hope that helps. Here's the link: www.aegismax.com/index.php/product-tag/l20/
I wish there would be something similar cheap and small with a comfortable temp zone down to -5°C / 23°F. Came across that particular sleeping bag already a couple of times doing my research.
Keek Aegismax does a version of this sleeping bag but in a spring and fall version which gives it a warmer value. Aegismax spring/fall: 28cm*15cm versus 21cm*12cm 600g versus 560g Temperature zone is -3c to +2c vs +2c to +8c You'll be only paying a little more but that with a liner can easily get you to the -5c you're looking for
Darwin, how cold do you think I could take two of these out? I am thinking of getting two and for summer months taking one and for winter months taking two. Any suggestions?
I have done this, using the Aegis inside of another bag to increase the warmth. Works well and since it only weighs a pound, it is not a lot of extra weight to carry.
Dear Darwin, Is there an UL bivy cover or sleeping bag liner you could recommend to extend your season and possibly help with waterproofing in the case of the bivy cover? Or maybe you would suggest an affordable winter bag and just switch it up as needed? I was thinking it might be nice to have just a liner or just a bivy for very warm weather as well. A penny for your thoughts? Thanks, ~Survival_Mama~
Is this a sewn through bag? No baffles?It appears nice but I am leaning towards those companies that claim to harvest down in a slightly ethical manner. Such as only the down from slaughtered geese and ducks...rather than plucked three times. But now that I eread this comment...maybe I wont buy any more down items...better make mine last awhile! Thanks for the video about this bag tho...
You know, plucking live geese was once common practice here in Europe and it wasn't even unpleasant for the birds. Even now you can see geese plucked in heritage parks and they look like they're having a spa day.
Indeed the sourcing of the down is what keeps me from purchasing this sleeping bag. I hope other consumers will also do their research on how their products are made. Personally i will not buy such a product if dozens of birds had a pretty miserable life for it. Im looking into making a DIY quilt from RDS or reused down
That's packs up pretty small. Anyone have any experience of using two (one inside another) at zero degrees? A good sleep mat and double bag I reckon will do all year round.
I bought one and I love it; it makes a great compact, light weight Spring, Summer, Fall quilt. Use a fleece liner if you need more warmth.
I am so glad you are reviewing the aegis. I had my eye on this bag on Amazon but then got spooked by the reviews.
I'm considering getting two of these. I'm a hammock camper so I am thinking about putting straps on one for the under quilt and leaving the other as is for the top. I appreciate that you brought this gear to the channel. That last video you posted has been added to my saved favorite list on youtube. I didn't even have a list till that video! Thank Darwin!
LOVE my Enlightened Equipment Revelation 20 deg quilt. It absolutely rocks. Good thing about the quilt in warmer weather is it can be opened up and vents well. But this would be a great alternative for my scout sons who camp often and don't need to take their bulkier cold weather mummy bags on every adventure. Thanks for the great vid as usual.
AegisMax combined with the sea to summit reactor extreme liner will be my combo and I just hope it works. Shakedown time!
How'd this work for you?
Dear Darwin, I just discovered your videos this week, really like them! One thing I would like to see, being European, is additional (text) metric sizes. Currently I'm just googling the relevant ones, but for your European audience, it might be neat!
Thank you for your videos!
Cheers
oh yes, would love that too. Have to google every time again when he uses imperial sizes :D
Totally agree. It would be nice and useful for us:)
Agree!
MrSuperbasch You mean, for at least a couple of billion people since it is used all over the world. Plus, the metric system is the official system of measure of science,
Great Idea guys! I will definitely keep it in mind next time I'm editing. Always Love to have Feedback from you guys!
Hike On,
Darwin
I have 2 of these and used the piss out of these for 6 years now! Amazing!
Great review! I recently switched from the SnugPak Hammock Quilt to the Aegismax and got a compression sack for my WarBonnet Blackbird XLC. I always bring the bug net and winter top cover for the hammock (just in case) so there is no real weight savings there. The Aegismax, however, saves me more than a pound of weight and with everything in compression sacks I've got a complete shelter system (hammock, tree straps, whoopies, biners, bug net, winter top cover, tarp, sleeping bag and liner) in a package just a little bit bigger than two twenty ounce water bottles. It may not seem like much, but considering that just a few years ago a decent sleep system would take up half your pack, that's super impressive. I'm a bigger guy, which means all my clothing is bigger and heavier and every cubic inch saved is super valuable. Thanks again for the great review!
I just ordered a western Mountaineering Megalite. It's a 30°
It's roomy and I plan to use it as a quilt &
I could get the Agismax as a liner for when it's colder to combine the two for lower temps.
I have used the lightweight Aegis as a liner inside my primary bag when camped at high elevation or colder temps. It works well like that.
I have this bag. Wash it in Nikwash and it changes the bag immensely but I think it is really a 50 degree bag. I have the M2 as well. That is a great 3 season bag.
I trust your reviews and I was on the fence as to whether I would use this as a quilt, I will definitely now!
I bought this on your recommendation along with your recommendation on the cheaper UL sleeping pad and I cant wait to test them out on the AT in may!
Hi Darwin, usually for these brands those temperatures rates are limit temperatures. Therefore you are right about 40 - 45º. The model M2 (400 grs filling) has a 35º rate.
with just a base layer? im curious
Having looked round a whole load of reviews, the consensus seems to be that this one is more or less a 40°F / 5°C bag, and the M2 is more or less a 30°F / 0°C bag. Obviously everyone sleeps differently and wearing more clothes or using a bivvy bag would improve those ratings. Also many people say washing both these bags in down wash as soon as you get them helps a lot.
Has anyone looked into their Revelation clone the "wind hard"?
I just bought this bag and am looking forward to using it come spring!
Love my aegismax Nano and Nano 2 which are the upgrade of these (box baffles 👍) Hard to beat for value!
And for $85 they also offer an envelope style sleeping bag that fully unzips to make a quilt. I ordered one last night to replace my woobie blanket for summer camping. I'm 6'3", so I sure hope that it fits. For the price I don't mind taking a chance because my EE quilt set me back $358.
Pilgrim777 I cant use mummy style bags. I have to check this out.
I don't like the confinement of mummy bags either. Since I switched to a quilt I'll never go back. Here's the link:
www.amazon.com/AEGISMAX-Urltra-Light-Sleeping-Urltra-compactable-200CM-80CM/dp/B01M0L3IA0/ref=pd_sbs_468_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01M0L3IA0&pd_rd_r=8N81P7HEGKJ82D4AJ16P&pd_rd_w=KEGFa&pd_rd_wg=EZoRU&refRID=8N81P7HEGKJ82D4AJ16P
Yeah, I've seen that. Might have to pick that 1 up too for a review. I'm also not a huge fan of mummy stay bags anymore, but for the price & weight it was hard to beat this one. Thanks for Watching!
Hike On,
Darwin
It fits great and is better quality than I expected. It is tapered, meaning that it is about 8" wider at the shoulders than at the feet which is what I was hoping for. It weighs in at 20.5oz. The compression sack that it comes in is too small in my opinion because it compresses the down to such an extreme that it takes the quit a few hours to fully fluff back up, so I use a larger sil-nylon stuff sack that I had. It also comes with a nice storage bag. I have used this quilt for about a week and it is true to it's rating (45 F). The only problem that I have is that after a few nights the down seems to travel down towards the foot and so I have to shake it out upside down every few nights to even out the down. Overall, this was an excellent buy at just $85 and I recommend it. It is not as nice as my Enlightened equipment quilt, but it is comparable and a lot less expensive.
45F with just base layer? do you think with a really thin 100 microfleece or similar would it be ok in 32F/0°C? and about the down rolling off.. didnt it have sewn baggles? i mean, it rolls on its baffle or ALL the way down? (pun not intended) how easy it was to fluf it back up after it? thank you! if this bag works it would be really great..
[Background] - I live in Argentina, where the usual salary is not much higher than 500dls - and that basic salary isnt enough to live but thats totally aside - things here, the few that actually reaches the country are WAY too overpriced. If you try to buy things from outside the country..well, before (it was a dark age for that..) you couldnt even buy internationally.. now, you are limited to 2kg/200dls and USPS, with a 50% tax on the product pricetag, or UPS but only 5 shippings anually per person, and yest they charge taxes too (the company)...that, avoiding the "uh, im sorry we dont ship to argentina..yes to literally every other country around you, but not you!" policy everyone including amazon has.
So, yeah, for me is, this (on aliexpress, USPS) or a kelty cosmic down 20 which it may be confortable to a bit lower temperature but is almostdouble the price (with taxes), WAY heavier and bulkier and i owould need to wait someone that goes to USA to buy it..
I got one ordered and waiting for it to arrive. I just need a super compacted sleeping bag. I'm optimistic about this bag now, thanks Darwin!
Thanks for the tip, was getting really frustrated with bulky bags taking up way too much of my pack space. Mine is on the way!
I have the envelope version and I love it. I'm 6'1" and I can pull it over my head. Amazing deal for the weight. A must buy. Thanks Darwin
I'll have to check that one out for sure! Thanks for Watching Jeff!
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Hi! Do you have the size M or L? I'm getting the envelope version too but am trying to figure out if the M version would be big enough for me...
I want the envelope version. I need to be able to move around in my sleeping bag. A mummy never works for me.
The larger version of this bag is good for a large 6"0, 220lb ASM. Wash it with Nikwash first. The M2 is a better 3 season bag, but for warm nights it works great.
Thanks Darwin. I have ordered an Aegismax M2 in a long. Planing on some fall hiking in the US and hoping the M2 is good enough. I'll test it in the Australian winter.
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I own one of these, if you hold it up to the light you will see that the fill is very spotty...you will have a lot of gaps in the fill... Cold spots....now if you use this in very warm summer months ...you might get by with it for a week, but I would not recommend using it for your full-time bag, the construction is at best medium quality...
I am loving your light weight budget gear reviews! This sleeping bag looks awesome. Keep up the great work.
Really like your gear and alternative budget gear reviews
I’ve used the Agismax UL on a number of trips this last year. Great bag for the price. Having broad shoulders, I use mine like a quilt. I would rate this bag in the 40F range. Anything less than that and you will get chilled if you don’t wear warm clothes to bed.
Mine arrived today. I'll be wearing some extra clothes as the temperatures are supposed to dip just below 40. I wanted to take a couple more pounds out of my pack as I'm going on a steep and long hike. I'll report back when I return.
How'd it work out?
@@tomcosgrove8005 not my idea of a good time. I'd recommend this bag only for summer trips where you know it's going to be warm at night and you have a good pad. The first night I slept in the ground and had a 1.5R pad with a fly over the top. It worked ok. The next night I didn't have a good spot so I pitched my hammock. A storm system moved in and I tossed all night. If I hadnt packed a puffy I would have been in big trouble. Since then I've picked up a 20 degree bag that's about 3.5 pounds and infinitely more worth it and a one man tent. My sleep and shelter system is about 3 pounds more now but I can be out in sub freezing conditions with more safety margin
This bag is good for the weight but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
A pound is real light. Maybe you could get two and use one as a bag liner. What temperature could you get down to with nesting two of them together to use as one?
This is actually the bag I just bought for my PCT thru hike next year. For the colder nights I'll just put on smart wool long underwear and top.
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Hey Jacob, I'd love to hear how this worked for you on your PCT thru-hike! Did you use a liner? Any cold nights?
Hi Darwin. Which size bag did you review - the regular (170cm/5'7) or large (190cm/6'3)? The reason I ask is because I'm 5'3" and I do pull my quilt over my head at times. So, I'm wondering -- if yours is a regular and it comes up to your neck, do you think a regular will for me? And thanks for sharing this video. Loved it.
Hey Darwin, your videos are very helpful and informative, and have helped a lot in my decision making, when purchasing gear! Thanks so much for your videos! Keep up the excellent work!!
Thanks for the Kind Words Turtle Tails! You keep watching them & I'll keep making them!
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I wondered if the AegisMax stuff was any good or just junk. Thanks for the review. I need something even lighter for summer camping and they have lots of options for 55 or higher bags too.
Darwin - I've been doing sections of the NCT from MI to MN since mid June. I've spent many nights with this bag. End of August, temps at night dropped to 30 in MN with daytime rain adding to the fun. For my old bones, thus bag works just fine. With more and more nights dropping between 30 and 40 coming up, I'm considering adding a layer when I head back out for my next 212 mile section. For anyone considering this bag I'll mention I am about five-ten & also a side sleeper who likes to curl his legs up. I am just comfortable with the size. Would I like it a little bigger? Heck ya. Am I thrilled with it as is for the price? Heck Ya. Side Note - I'm thinking you reviewed the gear top tent I have been using too. Also a great budget item.
I'd say 40° is about right. For $107 there's another Aegismax on Amazon has about 6 more ounces of down (420grams) that should be good down to 25-30°. Also on Amazon there is a related bag called "Wind Hard" (used to be Aegismax wind hard) that is an EE revelation clone except Its sewn through and can be worn as a poncho rated 32 ° 850fp and exactly a lb. for $105. Hard to beat those options for a full 3 season down bag for a hundred bucks.
Did you get the Large or Regular size? I'm 6'3 so I'm looking at the Large....I don't need it to come over my head but I want it to be up to my neck and sinch up tight while not being ridiculously cramped up in the feet. Thanks!
Hey Darwin! Absolutely, love your channel! Your gear reviews (especially budget gear options) are amazing!
Which size bag did you review for this video? Was it the 180cm × 78 or the slightly longer/wider one at 200cm x 86cm?
Thanks!
What if you turn it into a quilt. Make a cut out, then use the extra down to make this make go down to a colder temp, if you know someone who sews this could be a good option.
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I'll be soon in Iceland and your tips and advices are a great help to prepare my trek.
Would be fun to see you one day on a trail in Iceland or north Europe. A lot to embrace there.
Would you still recommend this today or do you have something else you’d recommend? I need something for when it’s not cold, I got something for when it’s cold
Hey Darwin, What size aegismax is that? it looks like the mini (180cm) is 15 ounces. Do you fit in the mini? Im 6"1' and have a difficult time deciding which size to get
What size did you buy? i´m the same problem.
What about the logic of spending about $25 more and getting AegisMax with a 0 degree rating and leaving it slightly open if it is too hot? I have read reviews of this particular one you reviewed maybe not being enough in the 30-40 degree range. Those temps seem normal enough even in the spring or fall if it is a lower temp night. I guess I'm saying, it happens often enough to warrant the lower rated temp bag. Help me if I am missing something. Thanks! Great videos btw. Honest assessments. Much appreciated.
Not sure which bag you're referring to but the M3 (Comfort:+0°C / 32°F Lower Limit:-5°C / 23°F Extreme: -22°C / -8°F) I think is a bit warmer than the one I think you're talking about but judging from my experience with the bag Darwin reviewed (Ultralight: Comfort:+11° C/52° F/ Lower Limit:+6° C/43° F/ Extreme:-9° C/15° F), without a tent I'd say that the M3 was only good to around 28F. You can probably drop another 8F or so with a tent and an insulated pad. I'm thinking of getting the M3 but YMMV.
Note: I got my temp ranges from the Amazon listings but AegisMax (on their website) lists just -5C (23F) for the M3, which if you add a few degrees for my fudge factor seems about right.
Best review I've seen yet on this bag. Glorious beard by the way!
I'm liking the idea of a zipped quilt, like a hoodless sleeping bag
Yep Yep!
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Here in Poland it's a standard.
Darwin if you had to do it all over again would you choose the Revelation? Do you like the cinch footbox or would you rather have an enclosed footbox?
Really like your gear reviews. Thanks. Any new plans for bike packing? Gear review of bike packing would be great as well.
Darwin,
Your videos have really inspired me to start hiking, and I was wondering where you get your propane for the litemax stove/ BRS stove, keep up the awesome videos,
Matt
Tempting but a waterproof shell seems odd. Curious about breathability and whether this would convert well to a hammock top quilt by removing the zipper?
hate to say it, but he's fos with it being silnylon. The EE bags aren't made of silnylon either. those would be a gross sweat box if that were the case.. on the amazon listing it says it's waterproof, but I highly doubt that.. maybe water resistant?
Check out their Hard wind quilt it's the company and is almost exactly the same as my EE revelation quilt only sewn through. Very very good.
Hey Darwin I was thinking about picking up this quilt until I saw the Aegismax Wind Hard which is 15 ounces as well but seems to be warmer. Any thought on the two that could help me make a decision ? Keep up the great videos !
darwin looks great, however im 6'4" 250 lbs, that looks like it would be too small for me.......ty for the info.
Hey Darwin!
Love the videos brother. You've truly inspired me to just get out there and hike! Keep up the awesome work and I look forward to see what else you have in store! See you on the trail brother.
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Glad I can make a difference Shadowswhite! Thanks for Watching!
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@@DarwinOnthetrail Hey Darwin, thanks for such inspirational and informative videos! Q: Do you know anything about the HG Economy Burrow UL Quilt as an alternative to this or have thoughts on HG products?
:) looks good; I have however absolutely frozen at night in the desert - after burning up in the day .....certainly worth checking out. Thanks for the heads up
Thanks for Watching Deb!
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Thanks for review I am going to check it out further. I am 5' 11 " 230 so I am interested in the girth measurement.
Hello Darwin the sleeping bag in the link that you have in the description below has different weight specifications than what you stated in the video. Can you verify that the bag in the link is the same one that you are talking about in the video? I definitely think I want to buy this, what do you think about the quality so far?
Hey Darwin - you should review the AegisMax UL Lento Sleeping bag its about 350g full Goose Down (warmer than this one) and about 550g in total...Im planning to do the Milford Track, Abel Tasman and Mt Ruapehu in New Zealand this summer and would LOVE to see it the bag really works? Or an alternative quilt :) Love ur videos !!!!
Hey Darwin, how is the breathability of the Aegismax bag? I see the inside is the same 20d nylon as the outside, and I have heard their previous stuff needs you to wear a base layer to not be damp inside the bag. They also make a quilt (aliexpress is cheapest), it's 850fp and packs down near as small.
hey Darwin! You mentioned this bag is more of a quilt, but when you lie in it it looks like a typical mummy sleeping bag. Would it be possible to unzip the bag, place the sleeping mat inside it to use as a top quilt? Thanks very much :)
Hey Darwin!
Awesome video, man! Watching it all the way in Romania. Can you tell me what sleeping bag you used before the enlightened quilt?
I used a Big Agnes Grouse Mountain 15. Liked it alot, but it was definitely overkill. Thanks for Watching & showing some Romania Love!!
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Thank you!
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I got the black version of this bag after your review. It's superlight, warn and awesome. Only issue I have with it is the amount of static charge it builds up, when I take it out of the big stuff sack (the white non compression one) that it came with I can hear cracklings of static shocks. Does this happen to you as well?
Wish it was synthetic and not down- really not a fan of down. I’ve always used snugpak bags- take a hit of weight penalty but quality and warmth is excellent
Hi Darwin, Do you think that a liner would be a good match with this bag to sleep in colder conditions? thanks for the videos you do!
Hey Darwin, have you used it often in the last two years? Do you have anything to add after a long-term use of the aegismax?? It's still on the market, and thinking of buying it, so I'd like to hear reviews from long-term use.
Hello MarinosCh, you can find reviews on several website which selling this, like amazon and aliexpress, instead lots of chinese customs bought this on Taobao, though the review is all in Chinese, may use the translater haha. Besides, from what I heard this headless sleeping bag completely worth the price, it use Tory iFlex 20D nolyon as a shell, and the 800fp goose down inside it is not DWR down or RDS down, but the loftness worth the price. For me I will not choose this,because my goal is to be lighter and lighter, also I may sometimes go through some cold areas, and I need something to be warm enough as I am a cold sleeper. To be honest I haven't meet anyone who is colder than me in the Winter, Shanghai. I use a customized backless headless ultralight quilt which made in Hebei, China, 700g 900fp white goose down(not DWR down), 10D nlyon(21gsm) and these raw materials are all made in China , it cost 230USD, its a little expensive for normal hikers but may a bit cheap for ultralight hikers. Cheaper thinks may not bad then expensive one: the Tory iFlex20D nolyn is heavier than the 10D nolyn but must be more durable. Hope this helps.
Any ideas to add 10-15 degrees to this bag- I mean aside from wearing your puffy/fleece/long johns? I sleep on the cold side and probably would always wear long johns and warm socks. Thanks.
For warm weather camping, why not just use a poncho liner or "woobie"?
Hey darwin i was wondering, when you said on the 40s and not the 30s..you mean just the base layers? im curious if it would work fine down to 0°C (freezing, 32°F) with just a lighweight merino base layer and a lighweight (100) fleece or something similar
I've got an EE bag. Do you think this would make a good extra layer, inside the quilt for cold nights?
Darwin, does this bag unzip all the way to be used as a quilt also? The Amazon link is showing it with the zipper stopping half way down.
I am very skeptical of the advertised temperature ratings. Sorry I don't know how it's called in English, but the sewings traverse the whole thickness of the bag. In other words, at the stitchings, the thickness of down is zero. In my experience, it really cannot be any good at low temps.
You say the fabric is silnylon on this bag as well as the revelation? Are you sure about that?
Was it the regular or large size?
Is the only difference between the M2 and M3 versions of the Aegismax the color? I really don't see a difference in the specs at all on Amazon.
I'm 6'5" I don't think this would for me I wish came in a longer version.
You have a longer version indeed. It comes in 180 m and 2,0 m long
I'm 1.80 high and have the 1,80 m version and fits just fine, but for you i will recomend the 2,0 m long. $ 75 on amazon.
I'm from Spain, sorry for my English
From what I understand there are in-fact 2 different versions of the bag. One being a little longer than the other. Thanks for Watching!
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It does.
Next time mention the temperature units whether Celsius or Fahrenheit
Darwin,Since you have been talking about budget UL gear, what would be your choice.....Hammock Gear Econ or the AegisMax?
hmmm.... Don't know? I have never tried the Econ.
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Hello darwin! Can i use this quilt 4/7celsius? Can this keep me warm?
Hey Darwin, at 6'5", will I be able to fit comfortably in the bag like you, or will I be unable to get the bag comfortable over the shoulders? Ei do you have 3-4" of room or is it tight on the shoulders for you?
Never mind, reading about it, it says it is 200cm, or 2M or just over 6'6" and that is for just above the shoulders, so anyone under 6'8" should be find, it I buy this I will add my review to this page. Drawin's link is to the 200cm bag, there is talk of a 180cm bag, but it is not from Drawin's link.
Been tossing around a purchase of this bag for quite awhile and am nearly there. Just saw a review about a chemical smell, does it have a chemical smell?
I got one. Did not notice a smell.
I don't want to have to get a new bag for early and late hikes will some kind of liner greatly increase warmth?
One more question, what is the size of the compressed sleeping bag? I don’t see the size in the product description
Careful of those temperature swings in the desert Darwin. It can get pretty damn cold at night!
Oh yeah! I have def experienced some Desert Mood Swings! The South West can be a mysterious place sometimes!
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With that in mind (I live in southwestern NM), do you feel this would OK for November in this area?
Hi Darwin! I've been watching your videos for ages and you are one of my favorites. I have a request/question. It's not something I see often. But could you and snuggles do your favorite Summer/hot weather gear? I can find tons of cold weather but no hot weather. I live in South Alabama and anywhere around here is hot and humid a majority of the year. I would greatly appreciate yalls recommendations and keep up the amazing videos! Lots of love from Alabama!
Jessica
Hey Jessica! That's a great Idea for a video! I'll have to put that one in the Bank. Thanks for Watching!
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Thank you for the reply! Have an awesome day! =D I look forward to your future videos as always.
Do you know anything about the source of the down. The bag comes from China and they have some really bag down practices.
Hey Darwin, Love your videos. I am looking at getting a pair of camp shoes for backpacking. I have looked at crocs and other options. what are your opinions and what do you use? Pros and cons?
I used to use Camp Shoes (Vivo Barefoot), but I have since ditched them. Because I use Trail Runners, I just change my socks at camp & wear those. Thanks for Watching!
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I am 6'25 in height pretty big in size and don't have a ton of money to spend. What sleeping bag could i get? Anybody got any idea witch to get.
Great review. Thanks. Do you have plans to review the geertop tent you recommended in your last video. I'm very interested in it but can only find one review of it. Would like your opinion on it.
The Geertop Review is in the works! Thanks for Watching!
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Darwin onthetrail thanks
I am taking the geertop tent to philmont scout ranch in New Mexico this July. 12 days on trail. I have used it a few nights in southeast mo.
Hi, backpacking newbie here trying to buy all my gear to get started. I'm on a low budget and would like to save cost. I've been doing ALOT of research. I'm getting a used REI Half Dome 2+, Klymit V Static pad, and a Teton Sports 4000 65L pack. I am stuck between Hyke and Byke 550 fill 35 degree bag and this bag you reviewed, which is 800 fill. Any suggestion on which one I should get? I'm planning on 30-40 degree nights at the lowest. My budget for the sleeping bag is $100. You mentioned this bag should be good to 40-45 and maybe I can get a liner for colder situations? Or maybe I should just invest in a warmer bag... Please help and thank you.
Hi Darwin -- hey just a friendly comment, and I'm by no means an expert on this, but I think a concern is "responsible down" vs "irresponsible down". I probably got the terminology wrong but maybe the idea is that a review of down products might want to make that part of the discussion. If I get an inexpensive product (aegis ultralight sleeping bag?) only because of the suffering required of (China?) geese then I might want to pass on it and instead pay a bit more on something less heavy handed on the animals. As we all know "animals are people too". Hey keep up the good work. I'm jealous of your lifestyle!
Not sure if you have done a video on colder sleeping bags, but is there a budget light weight cold weather sleeping bag? That one would work good in the summer, but up north here in Idaho, I have seen -25F where I'm at. Would like to find a budget bag that can at least go to 0-5F that's light weight. I can always add a liner if needed, but something closer to 0F would be nice.
Hello D.A., Not sure what you mean by budget but AegisMax seems to have "budget" (low cost for the value, but really long ship times) bags. Their page for under -25C (under -13F) lists some bags in the $200+ dollar range and their most expensive model, the G5, lists -22F which with my fudge factor puts it at -17F. I hope that helps. Here's the link: www.aegismax.com/index.php/product-tag/l20/
In NYC. it’s possible to find the Aegismax in a store? I don’t have time to order on line! 🙏🏼 thanks
I wish there would be something similar cheap and small with a comfortable temp zone down to -5°C / 23°F. Came across that particular sleeping bag already a couple of times doing my research.
Keek Aegismax does a version of this sleeping bag but in a spring and fall version which gives it a warmer value.
Aegismax spring/fall:
28cm*15cm versus 21cm*12cm
600g versus 560g
Temperature zone is -3c to +2c vs +2c to +8c
You'll be only paying a little more but that with a liner can easily get you to the -5c you're looking for
gonna check that out. thanks. cheers!
Darwin, how cold do you think I could take two of these out? I am thinking of getting two and for summer months taking one and for winter months taking two. Any suggestions?
I have done this, using the Aegis inside of another bag to increase the warmth. Works well and since it only weighs a pound, it is not a lot of extra weight to carry.
Hello Darwin,do you have a suggestion for 4 season/winter sleeping bag that is budget friendly?
Im assuming he bought the regular size version. Any one know what height the large goes to??
They also make a larger version with a hood as well for larger guys.
I am 6'-8", how would it work for me?
Dear Darwin,
Is there an UL bivy cover or sleeping bag liner you could recommend to extend your season and possibly help with waterproofing in the case of the bivy cover? Or maybe you would suggest an affordable winter bag and just switch it up as needed? I was thinking it might be nice to have just a liner or just a bivy for very warm weather as well. A penny for your thoughts?
Thanks,
~Survival_Mama~
Sea to Summit makes several different bag liners that can increase the warmth of your bag by quite a bit. Check REI.
Hey Darwin, just wondering do they have a bigger size option for someone slightly taller? Thanks
They have two sizes. Regular is 180cm long and large is 210cm. I am 5'9 and the 180cm is ok but if I were 5'10 it would be too short.
hi! would it be good to bring for a 6month hike through New Zealand in the summer?
Is this a sewn through bag? No baffles?It appears nice but I am leaning towards those companies that claim to harvest down in a slightly ethical manner. Such as only the down from slaughtered geese and ducks...rather than plucked three times. But now that I eread this comment...maybe I wont buy any more down items...better make mine last awhile! Thanks for the video about this bag tho...
G Henrickson yes Aegis’ run for less than 100$. This isnt ethical down.
You know, plucking live geese was once common practice here in Europe and it wasn't even unpleasant for the birds. Even now you can see geese plucked in heritage parks and they look like they're having a spa day.
Indeed the sourcing of the down is what keeps me from purchasing this sleeping bag. I hope other consumers will also do their research on how their products are made. Personally i will not buy such a product if dozens of birds had a pretty miserable life for it. Im looking into making a DIY quilt from RDS or reused down
That's packs up pretty small. Anyone have any experience of using two (one inside another) at zero degrees? A good sleep mat and double bag I reckon will do all year round.