An old Army field manual I have talks about air washing your clothes. I carry a sleep set of clothes to air out my day clothes. It has not failed me in 25 years of outdoors adventures.
I just do that with just my socks. On long trips I carry three pairs and rotate them. I've found I can prevent most blisters just by changing my socks at lunchtime, and then the morning pair goes on the outside of my pack to air dry. Carrying three gives me the insurance that I've always got a dry pair to put on, especially if one pair gets particularly soaked and needs longer to air dry. Maybe it's a luxury, but I had very little blister trouble on the PCT and the couple of blisters I did get were because I didn't change my socks mid-day.
@barefootpastor I've heard of that from my friend that's a runner and has run from east to west coast and Mexico to Canada he says the UV rays will sanitize
I like staying clean. There's nothing like bathing in a cold mountain stream to keep you feeling fresh. I wash my clothes at the same time so there's not much "stink time". Great system you have Darwin! I did the Pyrenees last year; hoping to do Italy next year
YES, guilty of taking too much stuff and not fully recognizing how pieces can work together. Have 3 outfits, primary hiking, minimal sleep, and backup in case I fall into water/muck (most hiking in PNW rain forest). Came for your video to cut down on amount of outer layer stuff I bring.
I found this very helpful personally. My background is not an ultralight person. Bushcraft, survival instructor, we generally don't mind weight as we often carry tools, and the goal is a camp not thru hiking. It's only been the last 3 yrs for me into this world of ultralight and minimalist approach for me. I still struggle from time to time with the mindset part of packing.
I hike in Scotland so it is usually cool, windy and wet and in the winter cold, windy and wet. I use a string vest as my base layer with a merino T-shirt or long sleeve vest on top. For chill I use a thin fleece and a buff and for wind or rain either a thin Goretex Paclite jacket in summer or, from Sept-April, a Paramo(*) jacket. I always wear long trousers but in summer will use zip-off bottoms for shorts if the opportunity arises. And always a pair of Goretex paclite overtrousers for wind/rain. Cold weather adds a down puffy jacket (Or vest in summer). For sleep a merino T-shirt and long tights and my buff if it's really cold. Not too different from your rig for cooler climates... The alpha direct stuff gets rave reviews but I haven't found a local UK stockist yet. (*)If you aren't familiar with Paramo they are a non-shell based, highly breathable, rain system that uses textile technology to wick water away from the body rather than a shell to keep it out. Sounds weird but works well in typical UK conditions. Very popular here but I've never seen it featured in any of the US videos.
When you first started the list I thought "Wow, I'd freeze." Then I kept watching and realized you actually carry more clothes than I do! My sleeping clothes also serve to fill the same niche as your chilly layer, which I rarely use because of a few adjustments. I hike in long pants if the days are below 60 degrees so I don't need the separate tights and I make sure my warm layer (fleece or wool sweater) has a full front opening so it works for a wider range of temps than even a half zip. And my jammies are there if I need more layers. But I do wear undies. There are limits to minimalism.
I noticed the only "undies" Darwin mentioned were built in the shorts. The remainder of the time there was no mention of extra "Undies" in his sleep system or under the long pants when he wears them.
@@lindaeminger9740 not wearing undies is a mention for serious mental health issues 😂 i mean the shorts hes wearing are so short, my peepee would fall out!!! 😂😂😂😂
Great video! I only deviate a little, mostly because of location, heat, humidity… 115+ down here in the summer. Quick dry, performance underwear and undershirt (sleeveless) Sun hoodie Puffy jacket/vest (not needed until deep winter here) Rain jacket/poncho (frog togs) Shorts/quick dry pants (depending) Darn Tough socks Merino Buff for the absolute win!
This is a great approach to layering - it WORKS ! I haven't opted for the ultralight rain jacket - yet. I still want to be sure that I have good wind protection. Also one point about rain is that it can substantially reduce the temperature - particularly if prolonged. I have started to carry an active layer from FarPoint (like Melanzana's). It is surprisingly warm and hydrophobic. It is good for starting out on a chilly morning and it can also be easily worn under rain gear for additional warmth even when rain gear wets out. The hardest part now is to determine the temperature cutoff between going light or to go with thicker options.
I have a similar base layer as you , only the pants I bring zip off into shorts. Virginia has some unpredictable weather in March...lol. I do add in the winter a pair of synthetic puffy pants and puffy down booties to sleep in or just hang out in at camp on those freezing nights. I tend to get really cold if I am not moving. Thanks for the helpful tips.
👍👍👍 .. great advice 😊. At 74, I Nordic Walk to stay in shape .. year round in Switzerland .. so wearing / carrying light but still comfortable (and safe) in all weather conditions is important. 'Layering' is the name of the game .. and thin multi-layering preferable to less and thicker. At close to and in sub-freezing temperatures, I can have up to six layers on me (mainly during my early-morning commutes to one of my weekly group walks in a neighbouring village .. waiting for public transport at exposed bus and train stops .. and then the return when damp / wet). The excess comes off before we start walking and goes into a lightweight day pack .. 'be bold, start cold'. During the walk, layers can come off / go on depending .. I 'run hot' and tend to warm up / overheat quite early. Gloves. A synthetic 'liner' does the job most of the time. I use a pair of old Outdoor Research fingerless SPF 50 gloves as 'overgloves' to reduce wear on the synthetic liners from the Walking Poles .. specifically in the junction between the thumb and forefinger where most of the action takes place. Once again, great advice. Thanks for sharing .. take care .. NB: I'm also a 'Shorts Fan' .. much to the bemusement, over the past 12 years, of my Swiss Walking Colleagues. Temps over 10°C are walked in shorts .. actually synthetic long pants with the zip on/off bottoms. The zip on/off gives one additional functionality as and when required.
Similar to the clothing i wear/pack, because of helpful youtube videos like this. Wear: Light or mid weight sun hoody, depending on temp Jogging/ basketball shorts Merino wool boxer briefs Darn tough socks Pack: Pair of socks Sleep shirt Beanie Clean boxer briefs (sleep) Fleece (spring/fall) Frog toggs jacket Puffy vest (below 40 nights) Light thermal leggins (below 40) Frog toggs pants if windy/rainy and cold
I have discovered lightweight merino leg warmers made by a company called Rapha. It is a cycling company but they work great for hiking and allow me to put them on / take off while wearing my hiking shorts. To me they are much more comfortable than tights and amazingly they stay put on my rather skinny legs.
Outside of the fact that I use different branded items and I include my sunglasses and regular glasses in my clothing lists, I have pretty much this exact set up. I feel like anyone who does long distance backpacking eventually settles on this system or something very near to it. Just because it's the most efficient way to dress without needing to pack unnecessary clothes. For the PCT I took three pairs of socks, one of which was exclusive for sleeping and camp, but usually I only bring two pairs. Also, are we going to get any more podcast episodes? I really enjoyed those.
I’ve watched like 5 of your videos and didn’t realize I owned YOUR titanium pot! Since you make/design gear may I recommend Lamilite insulation for a jacket? If you can track down ducksback nylon in place of 20 or 30d nylon that would also be great. Ducksback is 3 layers of tightly woven nylon. It’s super thin, super durable and pretty water resistant. Combined with Lamilite it doesn’t matter if it gets wet.
I'm thinking about adding an UL umbrella...maybe have less battles with wet out and sun to begin with...I like being comfortable more than covering huge miles though...
We have very similar systems, except i don't need the extreme cold layers because i have no interest in being out there when it's that cold anyway, and i'm a barefooter, so i only need one pair of socks for sleeping. I felt so validated when you pulled your tights over your shorts! Great video.
I'm fairly close to what Darwin use but no buff and I rarely carry a puffy except when cross country skiing. I can always wrap my sleeping bag around me when in camp if it's cold or go to bed if necessary. I do carry a full set of sleeping clothes though - top, bottom and socks but they also double as emergency layers.
I go luxury with an extra pair of underwear to wash out daily. I do not embrace the stink and find a way (on most trails) for a daily shampoo and sponge bath and will think about down booties for sleeping at high altitude or shoulder seasons, mostly in the Sierra. I really enjoy your work. Thank you!
I’ve learned that I have pretty bad circulation to my hands and feet so I expanded my system for cold temps a little. On the hands I have a pair of convertable merino gloves from smartwool that have a little sleeve to go over the fingers like a mitten, then I have a gortex liner mitten from REI (lighter options definitely exist but they were cheap and not too heavy for me.) On the feet, I wear similar darn tough hike socks in trail runners but I added some sealskins waterproof socks as an outer layer for the cold temps. Not because I expect to keep my feet dry but definitely as an added warmth layer. It’s rare that I need those but I’m always glad to have them when I do!
Yeah, same here. I've always had cold fingers and toes, this last spring my doctor said it was Raynauds syndrome. So now I know I wasn't just being a wimp and actually had an issue😂.
Same issue for me. Gortex socks are good for in-camp but not as good for hiking longer distances IMHO. I also carry disposable hot packs - slip one inside a glove or mitt & hands stay warm for hours.
@@douglasdoucette7352 it’s usually a camp or even a sleep option for me but in certain situations if I’m walking through rain or snow in shoulder seasons or high altitude it helps a lot
🧐...This is probably one of the best videos you've ever made...✔️. It's next to the army soldier or bushcrafter onion layer system of clothes to wear to survive... only that now with this video it's tha hiker's version of it and so, new category. Should be in a list in your channel as "101 BASICS" or some of like that. Cheers Martin from Argentina by the way...🇦🇷
Im gratified that my system is very similar. Instead of a rain jacket which is a collassal pain when the weather is unsettled, i have an old fashioned taffeta nylon wind breaker. Then i use a poncho. You can put it on or off pr partially on or off even while walking. Fabulous ventilation, obviously. My newest one actually zips up the sides. (Warmlite Stephenson). Sometimes im tempted to carry a down vest, but with my fleece and down hoodie it would really be a bit much. If its generally cooler i wear a fishnet shirt, an incredible puece of gear.(Wiggys). I like the sun hoodie idea.
Great video, excellent resources to share. I have essentially landed on the same system, altho with rain pants rather than wind pants. I also ise puffy pants & socks, but you allow me to use a lighter rated sleep system, and you can stay super toasty at camp or braking camp in the mornings, making an early start that bit easier. Layer up my gloves too rather then going for a thinker pair.
Cold layer,(base layer ). Hiking layer, rain layer, puffy ( enlightened equipment synthetic) Socks, underwear, buff. Gloves ( I have Reynauds syndrome) I guess I could loose the rain pants but I tend to be cold natured so like you said, we pack our fears. Base weight currently at 15 lbs.
Excellent video Darwin. I am not a thru hiker and weight has never been my number one priority. However, for 3-5 day backpacking in NH, our system is very similar, mine is only a little more robust. Maybe I am just a wimp, but I hate being cold. I don’t hike anywhere without 2 pairs of Darn Tough socks, a wool beanie and a bombproof shell. As always, looking forward to your next video.
Hi Other than the brands of clothes, I use the same system. I hike anywhere sun hooding , mid layer, rain shell. Wind, rain or snow. They are it. Puffy and gloves for camp, merino beanie,
I have a small request that I think you could just put out as a short but.... could you demo packing for the worst case scenario - you expect it to get quite cold - in your quite small pack with the gear you would expect to bring with you? I have a 55 liter pack and I frequently pack a 15 degree sleeping bag, my 3f ul lanshan 2 tent my super small cook system, and with your suggested clothing, it feels like my pack is full to bursting, yet your tiny frameless pack seems to roll up tiny. What am I doing wrong?
For cold weather I like fingerless (flip-over) mittens over big winter gloves. Smart wool i/z zip Merino Wool tops are great for a "chilly layer" also.
Personally I've always kept a rain poncho instead of rain jacket and pants. You don't sweat out, and it covers your whole pack. And doubles as an emergency shelter! Albeit slightly heavier.
Us 2. We have a kilt also for really rough weather to wear over wet weather pants. The double layer keep us nice and dry. The poncho also works likewise over a light rain jacket. Double layer, great. Only hands and face get wet, sometimes feet if H20 goes in over the top of the boots.
No need for a fleece midlayer. I combine 2 long sleeve merino t-shirts. The benefits are: use one for hiking and another for sleep. Next day, hike in the sleep shirt and wash the hiking shirt (if it's sunny), and repeat. This way, you always have fresh clothes. And combine both to a thicker sweater if cold. And with a hooded wind shirt (more comfortable and spare dwr coating on expensive rain jacket), a puffy jacket, rain jacket and pants, beanie (for sleep), wide brim sun hat, and a pair of thin durable synthetic working gloves - I'm able to comfortably hike just above arctic circle from July-August at temperatures between 66-32 f (19-0 c).
I have all the same layers except I don't use a buff and I don't miss that. I do have some merino/tencel undies to wear with the pants. The last trip I took, temperatures ranged from 32F at night to 75F in the day (warmest day). I wore shorts during hiking, then pants at night and in the morning if it was cold, adding layers on cold nights. Switch back to shorts in the morning after warming up from hiking. The layers really do give you great options for a huge range of temperatures.
@@DarwinOnthetrailAs an European, I fail to differentiate, whether you mean it or it's irony… I mean - AFAIK American turists are allways at the edge of hearth attack, whenever they find out, that in most of Europe, nakedness is normal. I even heard about U.S. turists trying to enter sauna in some sort of clothing…🤯 On the other side, trail community may be different…🤷🏽♂️
Helpful video - question on the clothing. You talk about doing laundry. Curious what you wear while you’re washing? So you have extras in you resupply stash?
It depends where you are in the world. In Norway you usually see people have really big backpacks. There are reasons for this. The weather can change rapidly, and it can be very cold, and then very windy, and so on. Some people have backpacks over 100 liters. You can even buy 150 liter backpacks.
Yep. Same in some high country areas of Australia and NZ. The weather can turn on a dime, and we need to be able to adjust quickly, accordingly. Sleep interrupted by cold can make for a lousy following day, if you survive it. Ice rain is the worst. For a 3 week trip into the back country, carrying the necessary food and water etc., a small pack just won't cut it. We are 70 years old now, and base weight is still 13kg without food and water.
If I hike to feel good but I feel miserable when I'm cold or wet, how can I not make sure I won't freeze or drown? It's not about surviving, it's about living, relaxing, winding down and recharging. And missing out on those values because I have to struggle with weather conditions is useless.
Such a good system. People who get the benefit of hearing/learning this from the beginning will have saved hundreds of dollars and escaped a lot of suffering! It's interesting that there is no windshirt, but obviously the rain jacket can work for that. And nice addition of a sleep shirt, you're so right that is a well-justified comfort item. Really nice minimal system. Long center zips really are magical :) Thanks for the insights!
Have never found that necessary. But I take a basic rain pant and can layer that with my merino long johns. If I'm still cold that's what my sleeping bag is for.
Damn, I just use: 1. Buff 2. OR Echo Hoodie 3. Shorts (usually Kuhl or Arc'teryx) 4. Socks (2 pairs) 5. EE pullover Torrid 6. Timmermade Pullover Rain Jacket (2.5oz) 7. Dutchware Rain Pants ($55 and 3oz). 8. Gloves That's it! I keep clean on trail though and wash vital areas once a day with soap and water. I also try to wash clothes using biodegradable soap every 2-3 days. Keeping my body and clothes clean has been the real game changer. Less clothes to bring and it's just a much better backcountry experience.
I use a very similar system. I did how ever opt for some alpha direct legging that have been awesome! They look a little goofy when wearing them under shorts but are great and light!
I have to have “toe socks”. I either use a wool liner toe socks with darn tough over top or use the midweight injinji toe socks by themselves. Both crew length.
I run a similar system: OR Echo Sun Hoodie Patagonia Terrebone Joggers Darn Tough Lightweight Socks Darn Tough Midweight Socks Injinji Toe Liner Socks Merino Wool Buff Alpha 120 Beanie Brynje wool Thermo Top and Bottoms Alpha 90 Quarter Zip Alpha 90 Pants Black Diamond Highline Stretch Shell and Pants Decathlon Forclaz MT Down Jacket Zpacks Possum Gloves Enlightened Equipment Mitts Etowah Outdoors Rain Mitts
what I’m wearing (pants & sun hoodie, buff & brimmed hat) plus: rain jacket, insulating hoodie or puffy depending on weather, one extra pair of socks, one extra pair of underwear, an ultralight windbreaker, and my sleep clothes (shorts, t-shirt & sleep socks). That’s it…
My system is very similar in three seasons. Exceptions are 1. My sleep top is another light weight hoody. I do not use a beanie. 2. My outer shell also has a hood so no need for a hat. I also carry super light weight polyester tights to sleep in. Other than that, our systems are pretty similar.
I like the sun hoodie or long sleeve poly under a down jacket if it really cold but if it just chilly or windy I like a big fleece pull over the loose fitting is better if the warm season tight fitting for cold season
Same aproch - you have to be able to handle cold, wet, wind, but also hot - so for "normal" hiking clothes - i prefer a non liner shorts - so i can change whats underneath depending on the situation - so i use either an OMM pacelite shorts (50 grams) or houdini pace lite shorts (80g but with pockets) underneath i often wear knee long merino mix boxers (like super.natural long boxers, or ortovox 120 long boxers) warmer, i wear a brief underneath - colder, a knee length or full length thin merino thight - upper, sunhoody - prefer a more mixed version - right now an icebreaker cool lite hoody - which is better at getting rid of moisture than pure merino - then i often use a wind shirt - something like the OMM breeze i really like as its a stand alone also - but great for layers - much more breatable than a rain jacket. then i have an open fleece layer - right now go to is zpacks octa hoody as octa is more comfortable and bit more wind resistant than alpha - and often i also bring my yamatomichi alpha vest which is superb for an active layer as it has insulation where you need it (front torso) - then i have a thing long armed sleep layer (smartwool sport 120 hoody) - no warm jacket (i have a poncho quilt for camp use) and then i have windpants (gramxpert 30 grams) and rain jacket and pants (yamatomichi long jacket 140g - which is superb for most summer conditions on its own - so often i leave the rain pants at home ) and pants; 80g - for colder camps i bring some alpha pants as well (85g) an OMM tent socks (38g) - merino gloves and rain mitts and a thin buff
@bena3341 I'm usually the same but I actually use a heavyweight Merino shirt in place of his fleece in below freezing temps and it also doubles as my sleep shirt.
I would Love to go Lighter, Like a Top Quilt. But I am a Disabled Vet, So Cant Afford the ultra Light Quilt, and Tent... But thanks to your Videos I have made My pack Weight to 40 Pounds. The tent is Still like 6 Pounds(OneTigris Tangram just like the Tent you used design wise but cheaper and heavier), and sleep System is 2 Wool Blankets and a Military Bivy, So Too Heavy. But Buying Cheaper Used Down Jacket Ghost Whisperer, and Titanium Cup like you Use. Really helped me Save Ounce. My Buff you suggested I have used daily for Years, So much it has holes in it. But it still works, and I Appreciate your Videos and Knowledge. I think It really has Helped me With pack Weight... Thanks for the Great work you do. Glad to see you doing videos again.
I have the One Tigris Tentagram as well. Love that tent. Still rocking after a few years. Made it though some pretty intense rain and wind. Impressed. My guy is a disabled Marine too, he got the Bungalo style same brand, he loves it. We hike for pleasure and not so much to clock miles so it works for us. Camping is more of the bigger deal. We each got the Snugpack Special Forces Bivvy and I have to say pretty impressed. For a quilt he has the One Wind hammock top quilt poncho with footbox extra large and literally uses this at home to sleep in. Legit. For extra warmth we got the Snuckpack Theromlon 'sock' liner and this is great because it's super stretchy, great warm material not like those cheap silk liners and he being a more robust guy then skinny through hikers (usually), he can move around and not feel restricted. It all works well and we have got our gear for preparedness as well in mind. So this system pretty much fits in his travel pack as part of an overall pack out he keeps in the car 'incase'. Thank you for your service.
I think it was you? that turned me onto Naturehike down booties... It's amazing how well they work for such a tiny package and feather weight omg. I don't leave home without them, lol.
Darn tuff socks are really worth their weight. I go by the rule of threes one wear, one wash and dry if I can and hang off my pack, lol, and one to change into at night. Plus I can use clean socks as mittens if it really gets cold over my liner gloves, especially to sleep in. I bring Naturehike down booties too. I hate cold hands and feet. I bring a hood instead of a hat. So replaces a buff and really keeps my head and ears warm, again especially at night.
Turns out i am not hiking with way too many clothes I have a 1 or 2 less layer and extra socks ... I'm almost always using Running shorts, merino socks, toe socks liners and a sun hoodie. Then for warmer stuff merino leggings wind pants as well as an apex hoodie and rain coat For sleeping glove liners merino beanie and buff rain kilt for most trips if I'm expecting to be in a rain for days on end rain pants and gloves come with
Clothing is one of the things that I've been looking from my pack recently. I'm going to be sticking with a button down shirt, it seems like a sun hoody is what everybody wears now rather than moving on from button downs. Button down shirts still seem more versatile to me. I also use a 'dana around my neck with the flat side to the back of your neck combined with a hat that has a flexible lid to keep the sun off of that area as well. I hike with pants on all the time, I had some thin ones that I recently replaced with ones that are little bit thicker. They are great and cover any sort of condition you can put them though. I've not fond of hiking with shorts and exposing my legs to the elements all day. My next piece of item is probably going to be wind shirt / rain jacket upgrade. I've always shyed away from wind jackets because they seem like they have a very narrow range of effectiveness but I have found myself getting into windy situations more often so maybe I'll might finally get one. Plus it would open up other avenues for me like using it in combination with an alpha direct material if I do go that route from my gridded fleece since the Alpha Direct is awful in any sort of wind. I've never found myself in conditions where I'd need a puffy where my fleece can't handle so I never even got one. The other item that I'm looking towards is gloves, ideally I want to get a pair of gloves that can handle scrambling as well so that I don't have to constantly replace them.
@@DarwinOnthetrail"a lot of times..." - okay, what about the other times? No sleep bottom at all? Or you wear your hiking shorts for sleeping? That doesn't seem very good.
I have never limited my self to one form of self propelled travel. the past 50 plus years I have my clothing and camp gear serve for Kayak tours and canoeing, bike tours and backpacking. My one rule is never allow a fungus amount us. Never embrace the smell. Bath every day, using a bucket bath, Your body will love you, your sleeping bag will love you and you will feel mentally refreshed. If there is snow on the ground take a snow bath. Just a fact. Most deaths from hypothermia happen in the spring and summer. Year round I carry my 12-16 oz blizzard bag in a watery proof bag. It contains fleece alpaca socks, poly long Jon’s, one size larger merino long sleeve Tee, light weight Balaclava. In an emergency I’m covered from the tip of my toes to the top of my head. In dry warmth. It can also be a part of my MSS Modular Sleep System. Much like the modular clothing system consisting of layers for the trunk. When moving My base layer: A fishnet undershirt from Brynje. Cool in the summer warm in the winter. My mid layer: On a long trip of weeks I Carry a one size larger long sleeve linen shirt, a light weight wool garment (pick one; merino long sleeve Tee, open weave wool summer weight button shirt, poly long sleeve ventilation shirt). My hat is a short brimmed wool fedora and a flat cotton flat cap and a Buff for multi functions. Leg options for me: knee length shorts or knickers. Cover the legs with options: footless knicker socks, poly long john bottoms, bike leggings, zip on w/ elastic around the thighs.
Yep, totally with you on not embracing the stink. If we don't wash ourselves at night (even a rub down with a damp cloth), we end up with chafing and in hot weather, skin issues due to heat. A good rub down with a wet cloth before putting on the jammies makes for a damn good night's sleep as well as keeps the sleeping bag clean. Hair wash once a week, or twice if there is a good stream available. Puffy vest is good also as an extra layer for snow and ice rain weather. Great for sleeping in also.
With your clothing you mentioned, would you maintain the tights and shorts for the Sierras of the PCT? What would be the cold layer additional items other than what you mentioned if any? Wind Pants ✅ Puffy ✅ Alpha Fleece ✅ Bennie ✅ Gloves ✅ Rain Jacket ✅ ….?
What I carried in the Sierra in 2018n during my Thru-Hike is this exact set-up. Shorts, Tights, Wind Pants, Puffy, Rain Jacket. I'm actually not sure I even used my wind pants up there. I wore my tights in the early morning sometimes, but most days I just wore shorts
@@DarwinOnthetrail Awesome, thanks for the response. By the way I’m really enjoying your Merino Sun Hoodie, great fit and light weight, great piece of kit to have.
Hiking layer is an REI sun hoodie (similar to the capilien), lightweight hiking pants, merino socks, and trail runners. sometimes low cut, sometimes mids depending on terrain. I carry an Outdoor Vitals dragonwool hoodie for chilly and have 250 merino wool bottoms I use mostly to sleep in or under my hiking pants of it's cold enough. Extra pair of socks for sleeping, beanie, and Synthetic balaclava if it is going to be super cold to sleep. ( I only use quilts). Puffy for camp in the mornings. I also usually carry a rain/wind jacket and pants as well. Great video, I guess I need to do one on my system now 😆
For those looking at budget those Patagonia shorts are pretty much equal to any running shorts that you can find from Nike, Asics, etc, etc.. but those can be found for 1/4 of the price of the Patys...
If it really damp cloudy foggy I like a synthetic/ denim automotive jacket I got big xl worn comfy with a wool vest pulls it tight and kinda corse doesn't absorb water
First I want to credit you for being a great asset to the outdoors community. Second, with respect to sun hoodies ... I'm sure the one you own serves you well. But you don't mention wind protection, in which I am as interested as I am sun protection. ChatGPT surfaced a bunch of candidates; the Black Diamond Alpine Start may be the best hoody (and most expensive) there is; what do you think when the requirement for wind protection is thrown in?
I wear zip offs as I don’t like scratches, sunscreen/bug repellent on my legs. Incompletely zippering aids venting yet still protects. Once tent is up I can at least spit bathe, change into night clothes, wash day wear and let it air dry overnight. Usually in the Rockies I have aired out, dry clothes by morning. I use a few drops of Kookaburra wash that doesn’t need to be rinsed out and leaves a faint tea tree scent.
I just wear pants when I'm out. I have zip offs, but I have never unzipped them mid hike. To be honest, I find it more of a hassle than changing pants.
Have never really understood why people backpack in shorts unless it is really hot. Most hiking pants are lightweight thin nylon with some slight stretch. It keeps bugs off my legs, keeps me from needing sunscreen on my legs and are not hot to wear because they breath super well.
You put your sleep clothes in the footbox of your quilt. But what about your socks? You said you swap them out with the ones you were wearing the day before. So those things, if you're like me, smell pretty bad. Do you put them somewhere to dry and air out? Curious. Thanks.
I like that wool sun hoodie imma have to buy one lol if it's hot I wear a poly short sleeve button up with under armor upf sleeves and when it cools off short sleeve poly shirt feel like silk add that sun hoodie and some poly pants that my cold weather pajama around the house airplane clothes
Im on a journey to lighten my gear. I typically carry around 48lb (and i dont have a chair or extra clothes) 😂. I even carried full size frying pan to cook some steaks and potatoes over the fire😂😂 . We did 34km on difficult terrain. If i could get my starting weight under 40lbs i would be thrilled. Im not gonna go UL, i need my saw, hatchet, paracord etc for my style hiking. Last hike we even built a raft to crosse the deep n wide river. And i like having real food with friends in the evening around campfire. Just need to shed some weight somewhere.
Really interesting system you use! I am in the midst of cutting weight on my system so this gave me some ideas! What kind of shoes do you use though! I used Altra this summer, but it was really rocky, so my feet got really warn in the afternoon. I am thinking if a little stiffer sole could be better..?
There is a spray on product you can get from the optometrists that stop the fogging up and cleaning issue. It is all done in one go. Never leave home without it, but it is extra weight as it is a fluid in a small spray bottle.
As a mail carrier, I watch hiking and backpacking videos to help with the weather. Thanks for all the great info!
“They pack their fears”
So true, water is major for me and I need bottles, filters, purifiers and so on.
I stuff my packable puffy down jacket into my merino wool buff to make a makeshift pillow. It works really well.
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An old Army field manual I have talks about air washing your clothes. I carry a sleep set of clothes to air out my day clothes. It has not failed me in 25 years of outdoors adventures.
I just do that with just my socks. On long trips I carry three pairs and rotate them. I've found I can prevent most blisters just by changing my socks at lunchtime, and then the morning pair goes on the outside of my pack to air dry. Carrying three gives me the insurance that I've always got a dry pair to put on, especially if one pair gets particularly soaked and needs longer to air dry. Maybe it's a luxury, but I had very little blister trouble on the PCT and the couple of blisters I did get were because I didn't change my socks mid-day.
@barefootpastor I've heard of that from my friend that's a runner and has run from east to west coast and Mexico to Canada he says the UV rays will sanitize
I like staying clean. There's nothing like bathing in a cold mountain stream to keep you feeling fresh. I wash my clothes at the same time so there's not much "stink time". Great system you have Darwin! I did the Pyrenees last year; hoping to do Italy next year
YES, guilty of taking too much stuff and not fully recognizing how pieces can work together. Have 3 outfits, primary hiking, minimal sleep, and backup in case I fall into water/muck (most hiking in PNW rain forest). Came for your video to cut down on amount of outer layer stuff I bring.
I found this very helpful personally. My background is not an ultralight person. Bushcraft, survival instructor, we generally don't mind weight as we often carry tools, and the goal is a camp not thru hiking. It's only been the last 3 yrs for me into this world of ultralight and minimalist approach for me. I still struggle from time to time with the mindset part of packing.
I hike in Scotland so it is usually cool, windy and wet and in the winter cold, windy and wet. I use a string vest as my base layer with a merino T-shirt or long sleeve vest on top. For chill I use a thin fleece and a buff and for wind or rain either a thin Goretex Paclite jacket in summer or, from Sept-April, a Paramo(*) jacket. I always wear long trousers but in summer will use zip-off bottoms for shorts if the opportunity arises. And always a pair of Goretex paclite overtrousers for wind/rain. Cold weather adds a down puffy jacket (Or vest in summer). For sleep a merino T-shirt and long tights and my buff if it's really cold. Not too different from your rig for cooler climates... The alpha direct stuff gets rave reviews but I haven't found a local UK stockist yet.
(*)If you aren't familiar with Paramo they are a non-shell based, highly breathable, rain system that uses textile technology to wick water away from the body rather than a shell to keep it out. Sounds weird but works well in typical UK conditions. Very popular here but I've never seen it featured in any of the US videos.
Great video, Darwin! When I got back into the hobby four years ago your tips were super helpful, and this is a good reminder on the key layers!
The chilly layer is essential for a good backpacking experience
The chili layer is essential for a good hot dog experience
When you first started the list I thought "Wow, I'd freeze." Then I kept watching and realized you actually carry more clothes than I do! My sleeping clothes also serve to fill the same niche as your chilly layer, which I rarely use because of a few adjustments. I hike in long pants if the days are below 60 degrees so I don't need the separate tights and I make sure my warm layer (fleece or wool sweater) has a full front opening so it works for a wider range of temps than even a half zip. And my jammies are there if I need more layers.
But I do wear undies. There are limits to minimalism.
Yea. I was expecting a more minimal setup as well.
I carry a fleece or a puffy. Never both.
Apart from that my setup is pretty similar to his.
I noticed the only "undies" Darwin mentioned were built in the shorts. The remainder of the time there was no mention of extra "Undies" in his sleep system or under the long pants when he wears them.
@@lindaeminger9740 not wearing undies is a mention for serious mental health issues 😂 i mean the shorts hes wearing are so short, my peepee would fall out!!! 😂😂😂😂
As always, Darwin - you nailed it. Simple and accurate method of staying comfortable and yet, fighting the urge to overpack! TY.
Great video! I only deviate a little, mostly because of location, heat, humidity… 115+ down here in the summer.
Quick dry, performance underwear and undershirt (sleeveless)
Sun hoodie
Puffy jacket/vest (not needed until deep winter here)
Rain jacket/poncho (frog togs)
Shorts/quick dry pants (depending)
Darn Tough socks
Merino Buff for the absolute win!
This is a great approach to layering - it WORKS ! I haven't opted for the ultralight rain jacket - yet. I still want to be sure that I have good wind protection. Also one point about rain is that it can substantially reduce the temperature - particularly if prolonged. I have started to carry an active layer from FarPoint (like Melanzana's). It is surprisingly warm and hydrophobic. It is good for starting out on a chilly morning and it can also be easily worn under rain gear for additional warmth even when rain gear wets out. The hardest part now is to determine the temperature cutoff between going light or to go with thicker options.
There a more durable ultralight raincoats available
So concise, this is my kind of video!
I have a similar base layer as you , only the pants I bring zip off into shorts. Virginia has some unpredictable weather in March...lol. I do add in the winter a pair of synthetic puffy pants and puffy down booties to sleep in or just hang out in at camp on those freezing nights. I tend to get really cold if I am not moving. Thanks for the helpful tips.
👍👍👍 .. great advice 😊.
At 74, I Nordic Walk to stay in shape .. year round in Switzerland .. so wearing / carrying light but still comfortable (and safe) in all weather conditions is important.
'Layering' is the name of the game .. and thin multi-layering preferable to less and thicker. At close to and in sub-freezing temperatures, I can have up to six layers on me (mainly during my early-morning commutes to one of my weekly group walks in a neighbouring village .. waiting for public transport at exposed bus and train stops .. and then the return when damp / wet). The excess comes off before we start walking and goes into a lightweight day pack .. 'be bold, start cold'. During the walk, layers can come off / go on depending .. I 'run hot' and tend to warm up / overheat quite early.
Gloves. A synthetic 'liner' does the job most of the time. I use a pair of old Outdoor Research fingerless SPF 50 gloves as 'overgloves' to reduce wear on the synthetic liners from the Walking Poles .. specifically in the junction between the thumb and forefinger where most of the action takes place.
Once again, great advice. Thanks for sharing .. take care ..
NB: I'm also a 'Shorts Fan' .. much to the bemusement, over the past 12 years, of my Swiss Walking Colleagues. Temps over 10°C are walked in shorts .. actually synthetic long pants with the zip on/off bottoms. The zip on/off gives one additional functionality as and when required.
Similar to the clothing i wear/pack, because of helpful youtube videos like this.
Wear:
Light or mid weight sun hoody, depending on temp
Jogging/ basketball shorts
Merino wool boxer briefs
Darn tough socks
Pack:
Pair of socks
Sleep shirt
Beanie
Clean boxer briefs (sleep)
Fleece (spring/fall)
Frog toggs jacket
Puffy vest (below 40 nights)
Light thermal leggins (below 40)
Frog toggs pants if windy/rainy and cold
I have discovered lightweight merino leg warmers made by a company called Rapha. It is a cycling company but they work great for hiking and allow me to put them on / take off while wearing my hiking shorts. To me they are much more comfortable than tights and amazingly they stay put on my rather skinny legs.
Outside of the fact that I use different branded items and I include my sunglasses and regular glasses in my clothing lists, I have pretty much this exact set up. I feel like anyone who does long distance backpacking eventually settles on this system or something very near to it. Just because it's the most efficient way to dress without needing to pack unnecessary clothes. For the PCT I took three pairs of socks, one of which was exclusive for sleeping and camp, but usually I only bring two pairs. Also, are we going to get any more podcast episodes? I really enjoyed those.
I’ve watched like 5 of your videos and didn’t realize I owned YOUR titanium pot!
Since you make/design gear may I recommend Lamilite insulation for a jacket? If you can track down ducksback nylon in place of 20 or 30d nylon that would also be great. Ducksback is 3 layers of tightly woven nylon. It’s super thin, super durable and pretty water resistant. Combined with Lamilite it doesn’t matter if it gets wet.
Love how you linked everything 👍
Gives me a chance to see what I need and don’t need
Diff going to watch how to navigate on the new app
Great system
Chris Townsend has lightweight synthetic for warm walking layer its less bulky than fleece
I'm thinking about adding an UL umbrella...maybe have less battles with wet out and sun to begin with...I like being comfortable more than covering huge miles though...
We have very similar systems, except i don't need the extreme cold layers because i have no interest in being out there when it's that cold anyway, and i'm a barefooter, so i only need one pair of socks for sleeping. I felt so validated when you pulled your tights over your shorts! Great video.
I'm fairly close to what Darwin use but no buff and I rarely carry a puffy except when cross country skiing. I can always wrap my sleeping bag around me when in camp if it's cold or go to bed if necessary. I do carry a full set of sleeping clothes though - top, bottom and socks but they also double as emergency layers.
I go luxury with an extra pair of underwear to wash out daily. I do not embrace the stink and find a way (on most trails) for a daily shampoo and sponge bath and will think about down booties for sleeping at high altitude or shoulder seasons, mostly in the Sierra. I really enjoy your work. Thank you!
I’ve learned that I have pretty bad circulation to my hands and feet so I expanded my system for cold temps a little. On the hands I have a pair of convertable merino gloves from smartwool that have a little sleeve to go over the fingers like a mitten, then I have a gortex liner mitten from REI (lighter options definitely exist but they were cheap and not too heavy for me.) On the feet, I wear similar darn tough hike socks in trail runners but I added some sealskins waterproof socks as an outer layer for the cold temps. Not because I expect to keep my feet dry but definitely as an added warmth layer. It’s rare that I need those but I’m always glad to have them when I do!
Yeah, same here. I've always had cold fingers and toes, this last spring my doctor said it was Raynauds syndrome. So now I know I wasn't just being a wimp and actually had an issue😂.
Same issue for me. Gortex socks are good for in-camp but not as good for hiking longer distances IMHO. I also carry disposable hot packs - slip one inside a glove or mitt & hands stay warm for hours.
@@douglasdoucette7352 it’s usually a camp or even a sleep option for me but in certain situations if I’m walking through rain or snow in shoulder seasons or high altitude it helps a lot
🧐...This is probably one of the best videos you've ever made...✔️.
It's next to the army soldier or bushcrafter onion layer system of clothes to wear to survive... only that now with this video it's tha hiker's version of it and so, new category. Should be in a list in your channel as "101 BASICS" or some of like that.
Cheers Martin from Argentina by the way...🇦🇷
Im gratified that my system is very similar. Instead of a rain jacket which is a collassal pain when the weather is unsettled, i have an old fashioned taffeta nylon wind breaker. Then i use a poncho. You can put it on or off pr partially on or off even while walking. Fabulous ventilation, obviously. My newest one actually zips up the sides. (Warmlite Stephenson).
Sometimes im tempted to carry a down vest, but with my fleece and down hoodie it would really be a bit much. If its generally cooler i wear a fishnet shirt, an incredible puece of gear.(Wiggys). I like the sun hoodie idea.
Man, this is one of the most amazing iceaxe walkthrough videos out there!
Great video, excellent resources to share. I have essentially landed on the same system, altho with rain pants rather than wind pants. I also ise puffy pants & socks, but you allow me to use a lighter rated sleep system, and you can stay super toasty at camp or braking camp in the mornings, making an early start that bit easier.
Layer up my gloves too rather then going for a thinker pair.
Cold layer,(base layer ). Hiking layer, rain layer, puffy ( enlightened equipment synthetic) Socks, underwear, buff. Gloves ( I have Reynauds syndrome) I guess I could loose the rain pants but I tend to be cold natured so like you said, we pack our fears. Base weight currently at 15 lbs.
Excellent video Darwin. I am not a thru hiker and weight has never been my number one priority. However, for 3-5 day backpacking in NH, our system is very similar, mine is only a little more robust. Maybe I am just a wimp, but I hate being cold. I don’t hike anywhere without 2 pairs of Darn Tough socks, a wool beanie and a bombproof shell. As always, looking forward to your next video.
Hi
Other than the brands of clothes, I use the same system. I hike anywhere sun hooding , mid layer, rain shell. Wind, rain or snow. They are it. Puffy and gloves for camp, merino beanie,
I have a small request that I think you could just put out as a short but.... could you demo packing for the worst case scenario - you expect it to get quite cold - in your quite small pack with the gear you would expect to bring with you? I have a 55 liter pack and I frequently pack a 15 degree sleeping bag, my 3f ul lanshan 2 tent my super small cook system, and with your suggested clothing, it feels like my pack is full to bursting, yet your tiny frameless pack seems to roll up tiny. What am I doing wrong?
For cold weather I like fingerless (flip-over) mittens over big winter gloves. Smart wool i/z zip Merino Wool tops are great for a "chilly layer" also.
Those Darn Tough socks are amazing! I love the blue ones
Personally I've always kept a rain poncho instead of rain jacket and pants. You don't sweat out, and it covers your whole pack. And doubles as an emergency shelter! Albeit slightly heavier.
I do some rain pants or even dance pants over the leggings.. personal preference but I’d add leggings in cold weather so 🤷♀️
Us 2. We have a kilt also for really rough weather to wear over wet weather pants. The double layer keep us nice and dry. The poncho also works likewise over a light rain jacket. Double layer, great. Only hands and face get wet, sometimes feet if H20 goes in over the top of the boots.
No need for a fleece midlayer. I combine 2 long sleeve merino t-shirts. The benefits are: use one for hiking and another for sleep. Next day, hike in the sleep shirt and wash the hiking shirt (if it's sunny), and repeat. This way, you always have fresh clothes. And combine both to a thicker sweater if cold. And with a hooded wind shirt (more comfortable and spare dwr coating on expensive rain jacket), a puffy jacket, rain jacket and pants, beanie (for sleep), wide brim sun hat, and a pair of thin durable synthetic working gloves - I'm able to comfortably hike just above arctic circle from July-August at temperatures between 66-32 f (19-0 c).
I have all the same layers except I don't use a buff and I don't miss that. I do have some merino/tencel undies to wear with the pants. The last trip I took, temperatures ranged from 32F at night to 75F in the day (warmest day). I wore shorts during hiking, then pants at night and in the morning if it was cold, adding layers on cold nights. Switch back to shorts in the morning after warming up from hiking. The layers really do give you great options for a huge range of temperatures.
So... if you only carry the clothing that you are wearing, what do you wear when you stop in a town and wash your clothes?
I just walk around town naked...
@@DarwinOnthetrail not even gonna wear 1 tube sock? LOL
Rain gear
@@DarwinOnthetrailAs an European, I fail to differentiate, whether you mean it or it's irony…
I mean - AFAIK American turists are allways at the edge of hearth attack, whenever they find out, that in most of Europe, nakedness is normal.
I even heard about U.S. turists trying to enter sauna in some sort of clothing…🤯
On the other side, trail community may be different…🤷🏽♂️
@@FalkonNightsdaleIn a town doing laundry? Which European country is this?
Helpful video - question on the clothing. You talk about doing laundry. Curious what you wear while you’re washing? So you have extras in you resupply stash?
Nope... I'm wearing my Wind Pants & Rain Jacket. 2 Things that I don't wash 😉
It depends where you are in the world. In Norway you usually see people have really big backpacks. There are reasons for this. The weather can change rapidly, and it can be very cold, and then very windy, and so on. Some people have backpacks over 100 liters. You can even buy 150 liter backpacks.
Yep. Same in some high country areas of Australia and NZ. The weather can turn on a dime, and we need to be able to adjust quickly, accordingly. Sleep interrupted by cold can make for a lousy following day, if you survive it. Ice rain is the worst. For a 3 week trip into the back country, carrying the necessary food and water etc., a small pack just won't cut it. We are 70 years old now, and base weight is still 13kg without food and water.
If I hike to feel good but I feel miserable when I'm cold or wet, how can I not make sure I won't freeze or drown? It's not about surviving, it's about living, relaxing, winding down and recharging.
And missing out on those values because I have to struggle with weather conditions is useless.
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Such a good system. People who get the benefit of hearing/learning this from the beginning will have saved hundreds of dollars and escaped a lot of suffering! It's interesting that there is no windshirt, but obviously the rain jacket can work for that. And nice addition of a sleep shirt, you're so right that is a well-justified comfort item. Really nice minimal system. Long center zips really are magical :) Thanks for the insights!
Mine is functionaly very similar, but I add puffy pants for camp, once the days get much below freezing.
Have never found that necessary. But I take a basic rain pant and can layer that with my merino long johns. If I'm still cold that's what my sleeping bag is for.
Damn, I just use:
1. Buff
2. OR Echo Hoodie
3. Shorts (usually Kuhl or Arc'teryx)
4. Socks (2 pairs)
5. EE pullover Torrid
6. Timmermade Pullover Rain Jacket (2.5oz)
7. Dutchware Rain Pants ($55 and 3oz).
8. Gloves
That's it!
I keep clean on trail though and wash vital areas once a day with soap and water. I also try to wash clothes using biodegradable soap every 2-3 days.
Keeping my body and clothes clean has been the real game changer. Less clothes to bring and it's just a much better backcountry experience.
As with clothing, paint or wood finish ..cake, life is all about layers
😂 Well said...
And onions.
Intrigue as well.
I use a very similar system. I did how ever opt for some alpha direct legging that have been awesome! They look a little goofy when wearing them under shorts but are great and light!
I have to have “toe socks”. I either use a wool liner toe socks with darn tough over top or use the midweight injinji toe socks by themselves. Both crew length.
I run a similar system:
OR Echo Sun Hoodie
Patagonia Terrebone Joggers
Darn Tough Lightweight Socks
Darn Tough Midweight Socks
Injinji Toe Liner Socks
Merino Wool Buff
Alpha 120 Beanie
Brynje wool Thermo Top and Bottoms
Alpha 90 Quarter Zip
Alpha 90 Pants
Black Diamond Highline Stretch Shell and Pants
Decathlon Forclaz MT Down Jacket
Zpacks Possum Gloves
Enlightened Equipment Mitts
Etowah Outdoors Rain Mitts
Thank you for this video. Great gear insights and advice.
Great video….. I always research for shorter hike the weather and terrain I’ll be in to help narrow my clothing….. Everyone Hike Safe 🍸🍸
Thanks! Hope you can take something from it!
what I’m wearing (pants & sun hoodie, buff & brimmed hat) plus: rain jacket, insulating hoodie or puffy depending on weather, one extra pair of socks, one extra pair of underwear, an ultralight windbreaker, and my sleep clothes (shorts, t-shirt & sleep socks). That’s it…
That’s pretty much my setup too
My system is very similar in three seasons. Exceptions are 1. My sleep top is another light weight hoody. I do not use a beanie. 2. My outer shell also has a hood so no need for a hat. I also carry super light weight polyester tights to sleep in. Other than that, our systems are pretty similar.
6:21 what are you wearing while your clothes are in the laundry?
Rain Jacket & Wind Pants
@@DarwinOnthetrailfree ball'n in rain pants?
I have definitely learned to cut back on clothing. A beanie to sleep in will be packed next time.
I like the sun hoodie or long sleeve poly under a down jacket if it really cold but if it just chilly or windy I like a big fleece pull over the loose fitting is better if the warm season tight fitting for cold season
Hey Nic, your videos are truly timeless gems. Thanks
Same aproch - you have to be able to handle cold, wet, wind, but also hot - so for "normal" hiking clothes - i prefer a non liner shorts - so i can change whats underneath depending on the situation - so i use either an OMM pacelite shorts (50 grams) or houdini pace lite shorts (80g but with pockets) underneath i often wear knee long merino mix boxers (like super.natural long boxers, or ortovox 120 long boxers) warmer, i wear a brief underneath - colder, a knee length or full length thin merino thight - upper, sunhoody - prefer a more mixed version - right now an icebreaker cool lite hoody - which is better at getting rid of moisture than pure merino - then i often use a wind shirt - something like the OMM breeze i really like as its a stand alone also - but great for layers - much more breatable than a rain jacket. then i have an open fleece layer - right now go to is zpacks octa hoody as octa is more comfortable and bit more wind resistant than alpha - and often i also bring my yamatomichi alpha vest which is superb for an active layer as it has insulation where you need it (front torso) - then i have a thing long armed sleep layer (smartwool sport 120 hoody) - no warm jacket (i have a poncho quilt for camp use) and then i have windpants (gramxpert 30 grams) and rain jacket and pants (yamatomichi long jacket 140g - which is superb for most summer conditions on its own - so often i leave the rain pants at home ) and pants; 80g - for colder camps i bring some alpha pants as well (85g) an OMM tent socks (38g) - merino gloves and rain mitts and a thin buff
Sleep clothes: t-shirt, beanie, socks. Did you forget something?
Depending on where the sock(s) go(es)… 😂
Seems ok, got to ventilate
😁 .. sleep Commando ..
Sleeps in the rude..
Thanks for that essential real talk :)
Is it weird that I hear people say you don't have enough clothes, but then during this video I'm thinking, he has so much clothes! 😂
Yea. I wasn't expecting a fleece and a puffy. I tend to take one or the other.
@bena3341 I'm usually the same but I actually use a heavyweight Merino shirt in place of his fleece in below freezing temps and it also doubles as my sleep shirt.
I like the id😮ea of a fleece and a light 7:06 down jacket. If it's wet, I use the fleece. Dry, the jacket. Or combine the.
I would Love to go Lighter, Like a Top Quilt. But I am a Disabled Vet, So Cant Afford the ultra Light Quilt, and Tent... But thanks to your Videos I have made My pack Weight to 40 Pounds. The tent is Still like 6 Pounds(OneTigris Tangram just like the Tent you used design wise but cheaper and heavier), and sleep System is 2 Wool Blankets and a Military Bivy, So Too Heavy. But Buying Cheaper Used Down Jacket Ghost Whisperer, and Titanium Cup like you Use. Really helped me Save Ounce. My Buff you suggested I have used daily for Years, So much it has holes in it. But it still works, and I Appreciate your Videos and Knowledge. I think It really has Helped me With pack Weight... Thanks for the Great work you do. Glad to see you doing videos again.
Thank you for your service 🇺🇸
@@jc10907Sealy Thank you I appreciate it.
I have the One Tigris Tentagram as well. Love that tent. Still rocking after a few years. Made it though some pretty intense rain and wind. Impressed. My guy is a disabled Marine too, he got the Bungalo style same brand, he loves it. We hike for pleasure and not so much to clock miles so it works for us. Camping is more of the bigger deal.
We each got the Snugpack Special Forces Bivvy and I have to say pretty impressed. For a quilt he has the One Wind hammock top quilt poncho with footbox extra large and literally uses this at home to sleep in. Legit. For extra warmth we got the Snuckpack Theromlon 'sock' liner and this is great because it's super stretchy, great warm material not like those cheap silk liners and he being a more robust guy then skinny through hikers (usually), he can move around and not feel restricted.
It all works well and we have got our gear for preparedness as well in mind. So this system pretty much fits in his travel pack as part of an overall pack out he keeps in the car 'incase'.
Thank you for your service.
I think it was you? that turned me onto Naturehike down booties... It's amazing how well they work for such a tiny package and feather weight omg. I don't leave home without them, lol.
Darn tuff socks are really worth their weight. I go by the rule of threes one wear, one wash and dry if I can and hang off my pack, lol, and one to change into at night. Plus I can use clean socks as mittens if it really gets cold over my liner gloves, especially to sleep in. I bring Naturehike down booties too. I hate cold hands and feet. I bring a hood instead of a hat. So replaces a buff and really keeps my head and ears warm, again especially at night.
Turns out i am not hiking with way too many clothes I have a 1 or 2 less layer and extra socks ...
I'm almost always using
Running shorts, merino socks, toe socks liners and a sun hoodie. Then for warmer stuff merino leggings wind pants as well as an apex hoodie and rain coat
For sleeping glove liners merino beanie and buff
rain kilt for most trips if I'm expecting to be in a rain for days on end rain pants and gloves come with
Clothing is one of the things that I've been looking from my pack recently.
I'm going to be sticking with a button down shirt, it seems like a sun hoody is what everybody wears now rather than moving on from button downs. Button down shirts still seem more versatile to me. I also use a 'dana around my neck with the flat side to the back of your neck combined with a hat that has a flexible lid to keep the sun off of that area as well.
I hike with pants on all the time, I had some thin ones that I recently replaced with ones that are little bit thicker. They are great and cover any sort of condition you can put them though. I've not fond of hiking with shorts and exposing my legs to the elements all day.
My next piece of item is probably going to be wind shirt / rain jacket upgrade. I've always shyed away from wind jackets because they seem like they have a very narrow range of effectiveness but I have found myself getting into windy situations more often so maybe I'll might finally get one. Plus it would open up other avenues for me like using it in combination with an alpha direct material if I do go that route from my gridded fleece since the Alpha Direct is awful in any sort of wind.
I've never found myself in conditions where I'd need a puffy where my fleece can't handle so I never even got one. The other item that I'm looking towards is gloves, ideally I want to get a pair of gloves that can handle scrambling as well so that I don't have to constantly replace them.
Do you sleep in your tights, or shorts, even if that is dirty and would make your quilt dirty in the long run?
A lot of times I do actually sleep in my tights, since I barely use them, they tend to be pretty "clean"... at least cleaner than my shorts
@@DarwinOnthetrail"a lot of times..." - okay, what about the other times? No sleep bottom at all? Or you wear your hiking shorts for sleeping? That doesn't seem very good.
I have never limited my self to one form of self propelled travel. the past 50 plus years I have my clothing and camp gear serve for Kayak tours and canoeing, bike tours and backpacking. My one rule is never allow a fungus amount us. Never embrace the smell. Bath every day, using a bucket bath, Your body will love you, your sleeping bag will love you and you will feel mentally refreshed. If there is snow on the ground take a snow bath. Just a fact. Most deaths from hypothermia happen in the spring and summer. Year round I carry my 12-16 oz blizzard bag in a watery proof bag. It contains fleece alpaca socks, poly long Jon’s, one size larger merino long sleeve Tee, light weight Balaclava. In an emergency I’m covered from the tip of my toes to the top of my head. In dry warmth. It can also be a part of my MSS Modular Sleep System. Much like the modular clothing system consisting of layers for the trunk. When moving My base layer: A fishnet undershirt from Brynje. Cool in the summer warm in the winter. My mid layer: On a long trip of weeks I Carry a one size larger long sleeve linen shirt, a light weight wool garment (pick one; merino long sleeve Tee, open weave wool summer weight button shirt, poly long sleeve ventilation shirt). My hat is a short brimmed wool fedora and a flat cotton flat cap and a Buff for multi functions. Leg options for me: knee length shorts or knickers. Cover the legs with options: footless knicker socks, poly long john bottoms, bike leggings, zip on w/ elastic around the thighs.
Yep, totally with you on not embracing the stink. If we don't wash ourselves at night (even a rub down with a damp cloth), we end up with chafing and in hot weather, skin issues due to heat. A good rub down with a wet cloth before putting on the jammies makes for a damn good night's sleep as well as keeps the sleeping bag clean. Hair wash once a week, or twice if there is a good stream available. Puffy vest is good also as an extra layer for snow and ice rain weather. Great for sleeping in also.
With your clothing you mentioned, would you maintain the tights and shorts for the Sierras of the PCT? What would be the cold layer additional items other than what you mentioned if any? Wind Pants ✅ Puffy ✅ Alpha Fleece ✅ Bennie ✅ Gloves ✅ Rain Jacket ✅ ….?
What I carried in the Sierra in 2018n during my Thru-Hike is this exact set-up. Shorts, Tights, Wind Pants, Puffy, Rain Jacket. I'm actually not sure I even used my wind pants up there. I wore my tights in the early morning sometimes, but most days I just wore shorts
@@DarwinOnthetrail Awesome, thanks for the response. By the way I’m really enjoying your Merino Sun Hoodie, great fit and light weight, great piece of kit to have.
Any chance of a military discount for your Evolved supply??
Hiking layer is an REI sun hoodie (similar to the capilien), lightweight hiking pants, merino socks, and trail runners. sometimes low cut, sometimes mids depending on terrain. I carry an Outdoor Vitals dragonwool hoodie for chilly and have 250 merino wool bottoms I use mostly to sleep in or under my hiking pants of it's cold enough. Extra pair of socks for sleeping, beanie, and Synthetic balaclava if it is going to be super cold to sleep. ( I only use quilts). Puffy for camp in the mornings. I also usually carry a rain/wind jacket and pants as well. Great video, I guess I need to do one on my system now 😆
For those looking at budget those Patagonia shorts are pretty much equal to any running shorts that you can find from Nike, Asics, etc, etc.. but those can be found for 1/4 of the price of the Patys...
Good info 😊 thanks it makes sense 😮
If it really damp cloudy foggy I like a synthetic/ denim automotive jacket I got big xl worn comfy with a wool vest pulls it tight and kinda corse doesn't absorb water
First I want to credit you for being a great asset to the outdoors community.
Second, with respect to sun hoodies ... I'm sure the one you own serves you well. But you don't mention wind protection, in which I am as interested as I am sun protection. ChatGPT surfaced a bunch of candidates; the Black Diamond Alpine Start may be the best hoody (and most expensive) there is; what do you think when the requirement for wind protection is thrown in?
I wear zip offs as I don’t like scratches, sunscreen/bug repellent on my legs. Incompletely zippering aids venting yet still protects.
Once tent is up I can at least spit bathe, change into night clothes, wash day wear and let it air dry overnight. Usually in the Rockies I have aired out, dry clothes by morning. I use a few drops of Kookaburra wash that doesn’t need to be rinsed out and leaves a faint tea tree scent.
I just wear pants when I'm out. I have zip offs, but I have never unzipped them mid hike. To be honest, I find it more of a hassle than changing pants.
great explanation.
I found that having a wind shirt under a puffy was warmer than having it on top of it
When does Merino "dry quick" (relatively speaking)?
Have never really understood why people backpack in shorts unless it is really hot. Most hiking pants are lightweight thin nylon with some slight stretch. It keeps bugs off my legs, keeps me from needing sunscreen on my legs and are not hot to wear because they breath super well.
You don't want tan legs?
Not to mention getting your legs shredded by branches.
Can you give any examples of the rare conditions where your layering system was "missing" something?
Ever tried Wiggys thermal fishnet underwear? It’s worked for me for decades
So what do you wear when you wash your clothes if you dont bring extra? or do you was your shorts and
briefs separately
What do you wear to sleep on bottom?
You put your sleep clothes in the footbox of your quilt. But what about your socks? You said you swap them out with the ones you were wearing the day before. So those things, if you're like me, smell pretty bad. Do you put them somewhere to dry and air out? Curious. Thanks.
I like that wool sun hoodie imma have to buy one lol if it's hot I wear a poly short sleeve button up with under armor upf sleeves and when it cools off short sleeve poly shirt feel like silk add that sun hoodie and some poly pants that my cold weather pajama around the house airplane clothes
It took me years to have the confidence to just smell bad and prosper 😂 I rarely hike in my base layer though: that usually comes out at bedtime.
Are all your layers the same size? I get abit constricted when i have a few layers on
Im on a journey to lighten my gear. I typically carry around 48lb (and i dont have a chair or extra clothes) 😂. I even carried full size frying pan to cook some steaks and potatoes over the fire😂😂 . We did 34km on difficult terrain. If i could get my starting weight under 40lbs i would be thrilled.
Im not gonna go UL, i need my saw, hatchet, paracord etc for my style hiking. Last hike we even built a raft to crosse the deep n wide river. And i like having real food with friends in the evening around campfire. Just need to shed some weight somewhere.
Really interesting system you use! I am in the midst of cutting weight on my system so this gave me some ideas! What kind of shoes do you use though! I used Altra this summer, but it was really rocky, so my feet got really warn in the afternoon. I am thinking if a little stiffer sole could be better..?
Hi Darwin, love the great clothing advice! As someone who also hikes in glasses, how do you keep them from fogging or clear of condensation?
There is a spray on product you can get from the optometrists that stop the fogging up and cleaning issue. It is all done in one go. Never leave home without it, but it is extra weight as it is a fluid in a small spray bottle.
what gloves were those?
Wow, After all these years Iam First Comment, Love your Content
going commando to save base weight?
Have you tried the mesh base layers, like Byrnje?
Have you ever tried fishnet underwear or Octa fleece in place of Alpha?
Nope & Nope... Not Yet 😉
I love the black shirt hes wearing in this video. Anybody knows it ? Thanks.
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