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As an Irishman living in Ireland it's a disgrace how these men were treated they didn't get recognition till over 50 years later absolute disgrace had this been USA or British army it would be held as a huge historical battle yet the UN disgraced them who faces 4000 men and lose non of the 155 or so men joke that the men were mostly dead by the time they were reconized
As an Englishmen I to think its a disgrace to, as you say any other Nation would have lauded them as Heros (which they are) and what the UN did to them is disgusting. But as long as the Irish people speak of them as Heros public opinion will change so they will be known as the Heros these Irshmen are
@@Uzzgub problem is alot of Irish people don't no cause it was covered up for over 50 years it's not in history books or anything
@@anto-mac true I'm 30&this is the first I've ever heard of this......but history thought me of english battles from centuried ago shit even had to write essays on it.....I'd loved to have seen our own true history! Poor men should have been given their recognition as soon as they stepped foot back on this land!!!💚
seems jadotville was you r vietnam from the soldiers point of view ??
@@wizard3z868 Nah! It was more like an equivalent to "Rourke's Drift" if anything.
MsG
The Irish collected their bullet casings throughout the fight, using them as shrapnel for making IEDs, there’s a joke about the incident saying “they used every bullet twice”
kind of gives a new meaning to an irish car bomb
@@wizard3z868 if you look at a lot of manuals about IED, and Guerilla tactics they tend to be written by irishmen, usually captured by the good old USA and given a special deal ;)
@@genomckenna1824 that's cos we basically invented modern guerilla warfare. George Washington had the first brand in the American War of Independence, and the Irish perfected the tactic, beating the English without ever having a proper army
@@wizard3z868 The shaped charged IED technology that cut through American troops in Iraq and one of the main reasons behind the assassination of the Iranian General Qasem Soleimani was originally developed by the IRA.
@@genomckenna1824 nicely just completely made up 👍
My uncle was one of the soldiers, he is still alive only one of a few and has wrote a book on it.
Would love to read it
My Grandfather was part of the Irish army's investigation. He was there the following week, I'm sure they both met at the time.
@Orion Not surprising the action itself was traumatic but the treatment afterwards was a disgrace. My grandfather didn't talk much about that part of his deployed. He told me stories about the gurkha who were part of the UN force out there and the assination of the president.
They even had to hunt and kill a rouge hippo that was old and lost it's teeth so it started killing people.
@@davidoshea73 a real Irish legend and I hope you remind him of this everytime you meet the man 🇮🇪💪🇮🇪
@@waynecarroll8490 Thank you for your kind words, unfortunately he died about 12 years ago. The greatest nan I ever knew he was a full Col when her retired
fun fact: Ireland provides more peace keeping troops per capita than any other UN nation.
Another fact relating to the military and the Irish is of the 3,500 Medal of Honors the United States have rewarded to their soldiers 2,000 of them have been rewarded to Irish-Americans.
That’s a high statistic lol
@@BiggestRedditor cheers dude, that was interesting
@Danny C Illumini i sympathize mate, I've known garda and dated HSE that all back up your claims of underfunding or miss managing of areas of the government. its a waste of talented people
Yeah but we get paid well for it. The Ethiopians have provided by far the most in total. Big respect to Ethiopia.
@@jamesoneill3922 good to know
The Irish army with a battalion of just 155 men withstood a siege by over 3,000 Congolese troops led by French and Belgian mercenaries. They lasted 5 days with no support, killing over 300 enemies, all while not losing a single Irish life. Eventually surrendering when they ran out of food, water and ammo...Jesus that’s pretty good going
I had always thought a surrender was a defeat, until I knew this story and saw the movie.
this is a victory
@@DavidL1150 there are no other options. Either surrender or being unnecessarily killed
Fighting to the last round all while knowing you wont be getting any support thats a class act
And on top of all that,their own government treated them like absolute shieet, when they returned home because they didn't want to jeoperdize their good diplomatic relationship with Belgium.
That's not a battalion, that's just over a company of soldiers, bloody hell what else could they have done ?
They make me proud to be Irish ,shame these brave men had to wait that long to get the recognition they deserved
And so you should! At least now the world finally knows...
Ye same and many have died since I say
Isn't it weird how we never give people the credit they deserve until at least a generation after an event
They were always respected within the Irish army at least, I was told the story as a kid by my dad who served 12 years starting in '83. Really stuck in my mind that the Foreign Legion's involvement hasn't been forgotten. My dad told me that on the rare occasion they had joint operations or training with French forces, they all felt an obligation to outperform - not just for the fact that NCOs were extra strict over even the smallest mistakes. To say there's not much love for the Foreign Legion would be an understatement. Almost the same feeling of rivalry as there is with the Brits, though my dad's squad never had a boxing match with the French.
Jadotville is definitely a point of pride for him and his old pals, and they're glad to see the film bring greater recognition. Even though it took our government 55 years to award these lads, it's better late than never.
Irish government treated these soldiers so badly for years.
They still do. Most people in the military in Ireland live in poverty, and leave for private security jobs as soon as they can get one.
@@jackhurley1428 Hol up no, most soldiers dont live in poverty what are u talking about?
@@Alan-me8bs they get really low pay. Idk abt poverty but defo dont get payed enough.
They tend to be continuously useless even to this day with Fianna fail.
@@JetfireWithy Yup but sinn fein might save or improve us..
Watch the Irish ranger wing and the Liberian operation it's where Irish rangers rescued dozens of hostages and captured multiple insurgents without firing a single shot and having no casualties.
We might not be the biggest or the best but by God we'll put up one hell of a fight and we won't go down easy.. Éire Abú 🇮🇪 ☘️
I bet you're one of those people who think that Northern Ireland is apart of the Republic of Ireland.
Even though we don't even want that
Beau Caspar nothing wrong with ambitions for a united Ireland. Having a foreign entity present in the country is very irrational and unnatural. We can even see this at the moment were there is different regulations and rules for Covid -19 in the Republic compared to Northern Ireland which makes no sense. Northern Ireland was following the protocol of a country overseas while over the border in Republic there was different rules which made no sense to me. As a result this border was used as a loophole by tourists to avoid 14 day quarantine and pose a health risk to citizens in the ROI. If Irish unity was to come I think power sharing should remain in Belfast till things settle down and let the Orange men have there wee marches and traditions to keep themselves happy because I can’t see the two communities integrating very soon 😂 But going forward a United Ireland is only matter of time.
@@beaucaspar3990 shut up
@@hughoneill6555 I can talk about the politics of my own nation. I am from Northern Ireland and we are Northern Irish/British NOT Irish
@@beaucaspar3990 if ur a prod then British but if ur catholic then ur Irish these no irish/British
My uncle was a peacekeeper in Jadotville. My mum told me when she and her siblings were pulled out of class and told them their brother may not come back from service. He was posthumously awarded a medal for his service from the Irish government in 2017. 3 years after he died. His son collected it. It's sad though he never got the recognition in life and rarely spoke of that time. After doing my own research I found out that when they returned from Jadotville they were seen as cowards and traitors for surrendering it was seen as an embarrassment of the Irish forces on the world stage.
My Uncle one of the UN troops beseiged at Jadotville also man. I have a video on my channel about it.
It was an injustice.
@@gaelicthinktank2294 nice will look into it.
Were they perceived as cowards within the army ?
@@okee9 yes as it was the first official surrender of the Irish defense force broke the ideology somewhat of the fighting Irish. My uncle was only 20 at the time and left the army and ireland after that experience he never came back.
Shout out to the Irish and the men who served in A Company ☘❤
Pat Qinlan and his wife passed away before their achievments were recognised. Theur children accepted it on their behalf.
I'm from Dublin IRELAND and I never heard of this battle till 2020 I'm so Proud of all the Irish soldier's
thats because it will never be thought unless you go looking or a army nut
Same but from wicklow..
Watched this film a few years ago on Netflix. Good film good story.
Is much more than a film
Colin Fairclough my old bus driver fought in it
He isint because all solders are retired or deceased
Whats the name of the movie
my grandad fought in jadotville and he said they were treated like shit when they returned home and a couple of his fellow soldiers ended their lives because of it
My heart fell when I read that some of these brave heroes ended their own lives. So brutally crushing to be treated as worthless in your own homeland...says more about the people in power who failed them! I am , however, so overjoyed that a movie was made to honour them. The group photo at the end was so LEGEND! So much Respect to your Grandad and his fellow brave Comrades.
So Sorry, they were hero's, fighten Irish, imagine if we were Ukraine, they wouldn't have a chance either....
Old phuckign de Valera and his heroes of the legion of the rearguard bullshite didn't want young Irishmen to be seen as heroes to compete with his leftovers from the 1916 rising. Especially with the 50th anniversary coming up in 1966. A backwards looking man in a backwards looking time. Delighted they finally got the recognition they deserved although too late for many.
Fair play to you for educating yourself. Nothing is more important than history. My grandad was there & never talked about it. My father only talked about it after the film came out.
As an Irish man I feel immense pride for my countrymen when I hear stories like the siege of Jadotville truly hero's who deserved a much greater honour then what they received
My Granddad was actually one of those men at Jadotville, he unfortunately died in 2004 but I remember my dad crying with pride when he showed me the movie. He still has my granddads old diary from the battle and other ops he was in in the Congo 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Much Respect to your Granddad 🇨🇮 🍷.
Rip
Was he a Doody as well?
It's amazing that for many of the Irish soldiers it was their first time out of Ireland let alone their first time in combat. In the book "Siege at Jadotville" by Declan Power describes some as "experienced professional soldiers" but I don't think any of them had served in the British army during WW2 so even the senior members of the company, including Commandant Quinlan had probably never heard a shot fired in anger. The Irish army hadn't been in combat since the end of the Civil War in 1922. Declan Power describes the Irish army in the late 1950s as " being in a state of terminal stagnation". All of this makes the actions of the soldiers at Jadotville even more remarkable and a testament to the training they received.
brigadier Desmond hayde was an Irish men who served as an officer in Indian Army after its independence. In 1965 war against Pakistan he attacked an entire brigade of pak army which have fortified themselves in town called boyera supported by tanks. Brigadier Desmond hayde said to our indian soldiers no steps backward if u retreat I will not and will fight alone dead or alive we will meet in boyera. His men followed his order no men step backwards and attacked the enemy position and defeated the enemy which was double in manpower and equipment and captured the town . Brigadier Desmond Hyde was awarded 2nd highest military honor of India Maha vir chakra en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desmond_Hayde
My grandad was involved in this battle as a young infantry man, never talked about it, lost a lot of good men, only said they were out numbered but held on. Later retired as a captain for the Irish UN peacekeepers and later became chairmen for the veterans association looking after vets coming out of the army. RIP peace Liam Murphy. Hats off top all peacekeepers
Respect and Honor to your grandfather, and his regiment sir.
AFAIK no men were lost at Jadotville only injured. However, nine men were KIA at Niemba by natives a few months before Jadotville.
My Dad was in the Irish army and in the Congo. Said it was a rough time. Will have to ask him if he wants to say as I didn't know about this. Thanks.
He probably has some rough menories. One patrol 11 Irish troops were ambushed by tribesmen and only 2 survived. A bunch of italian UN soldiers were captured and sold as slaves. 2 Swedish soldiers were eaten by cannibals.
It was a terrifying conflict with all sides commiting atrocities. The UN even sanctioned attacks on civilians
My dad was in the Congo too, he said that he once spent a night up a tree trying to avoid capture, and that one of his friends (the chef) was shot and died in his arms when going from billet to billet with food. It was suggested that it was "friendly fire".
I have read up a bit on Irish UN Peacekeepers and they are considered about the best of all armies.
Ask and write or record his stories
Quinlan actually commanded and fought in another engagement in the Congo before returning home. He also distinguished himself there.
Yeah why wouldnt it?!
"Man I hate these ads" and then I get one of those Ads straight as you said it!
you should look up how Belguim ruled the Congo and the atrocities they committed and were allowed to commit to see why the people of the Congo reacted the way they did.
sorry for our cruel deeds
Makes sense. The HQ of the EU is in Belgium. We are stupid enough to let them rule us
They didn't. Belgium took over the Congo in *response* to reports of atrocities in the Congo Free State, to put a stop to it.
I served under the UN in Bosnia in 95, rules of engagement and having to get permission to react military wise was so frustrating and cost a lot of innocent lives
The UN is a complete sham. Too many incidents to list, but for those who read critically, to come to any other conclusion is certifiable.
So the Major died without ever knowing he and his men got the recognition they deserved. Same thing with RAF Bomber Command after ww2.
Simple History got Pat Quinlans rank wrong he was a Commandant not a Major.
Oops. Accidentally pressed a thumbs down.
remember meeting the guy when he was in his 70s still looked as hard a nails even then
@@JamesHussey404 Commandant is equivalent to Major in the Irish Army.
@@JamesHussey404 Ya we have commandant instead of major, France and Spain do too. I think simple history were just making it simple for countries who do not.
The word “baluba” entered Irish vernacular at this time. “To “go balubas” was to lose your head and act out of control.
Ha ha yeah that's right - and mingie shops as well
My father was in the Irish army served in the Congo, my son was also in the army he spent time in Chad peace keeping, I'm really proud of them, 💯🇮🇪😷
A lot of Hollywood licence in the movie, the real actions of those men is beyond belief, the way they got shafted was even more unbelievable, the book goes into it in a lot more detail.
I admit, my knowledge of the 'action' is entirely based on the movie (this happened before I was born).
Is the book titled 'The Siege of Jadotville'?, who was the author? Def on my reading-list.
Pax dude.
Whats the name of the movie
What about. The four Irish volunteers. Who. Killed. Or wounded. 210. Sherwood forestsrs from a house. Overlooking. Mount Street bridge in 1916
@@The-better-joe the. Siege. Of jadotville
Absolutely disgusting how these brave men were treated by their own government for so many decades. How many of the politicians and Generals would have fought on and died under a barrage of lead and machetes once they had run out of ammo, food and water. The people who basically called these men cowards should have been sent to prison for gross mental torture, for many of these men would have gone to their graves knowing their country had turned its back on them, but knowing the real truth, that they had fought as true warriors alongside their brothers in arms untill the point when they had nothing left to throw at the numerically superior enemy.
Battle of Gloster Hill during the Korean War, another awesome battle.
A relative of mine talked about the Frozen Chosin
Isn’t it Gloucester hill ?
@@pauliemc2010 nope..
Colin Fairclough thanks
My father knew an Irishman who fought in the Korean war and he didn't think he'd survive it was so bad
Well done. Great video and great commentary from yourself. I am Irish and only learned about this when the movie came out. Thanks for this. Very educational and nice to remember these brave men.
The UN peacekeepers got only recently the status of a veteran here in Finland. It's taken them what 30+ years, as the status was reserved to those who fought in our own wars. With the status comes benefits. I guess by US standards I too would be a veteran, but here I am just a reservist.
The Irish didn't surrender, talk to the men that were there...they weren't treated well with mock executions beatings act. As in words of one of the serving soldiers "would've been better killed in battle " the Irish went by the book but the kantangan didn't..
The Irish were sent in to protect the local population.. the baluba weren't part of the kantangan force cause of the hatred of the former ruling Belgium..
They didn’t surrender! There was a truce and the enemy didn’t honour it
Well said
yeah they did
My friends uncle was in the siege of jadotville, i've heard a few stories from him, A company had literally zero combat experience. How they were treated when they arrived home was a disgrace, Pat Quinnlan was a tactical genius and an Irish hero. Btw this video keeps calling him Major, he was a commandant, and later colonel.
They were on the wrong side. Theywere oppressing people trying to be free. They were and are a disgrace. Not because they surrendered, but because they fought.
@@Aikibiker1 On behalf of Irish people everywhere, you can stick your comment right up your hole.
@@conmcgrath7502 I'm part Irish to,o so don't speak for me. I can recognize when someone is on the wrong side in a fight. The UN is worthless at best and evil at their worst. I have seen that first hand while traveling and working in both developing and war torn countries. Thieves, grifters, rapists, petty tyrants, and murderers. That is what the Irish troops at Jadotville were fighting for. They should have thrown down their guns at the start or better yet, joined the Katangese.
@@Aikibiker1 I am honestly too tired to engage with you right now.
If somebody has a witty reply or just 'straight out' makes sense, I will listen and then make my own points.
Maybe you have a few that def DO make sense, but in your own words 'They were and are a disgrace.' is an insult to the men. the mission and the people that are trying to make things better.
You need to apologize or just simply 'fuck off'....yes ...away you fuck, yep, keep going....you can join Pastor Bushiri at the end of the stairs?
@@Aikibiker1 cowardice scumbag is what I'd call you!
As it stands I think, winters attack on the artillery on dday and quinlans defence at jadotville are taught at westpoint as examples of offensive and defensive actions concerning fixed positions.
Also there were two Swedish soldiers (crew from the downed helicopter) and one Norwegian (I think it was) soldier who was an interpreter that followed the Irish into captivity.
I was going to let you know about this one! An amazing story of bravery, blighted by politics and only rectified years later. They couldn't get bullets so asked for some whiskey. Great job by the Irish 👍
My parents actually met Leo Quinlan, the son of Pat Quinlan, several weeks ago in Kerry. He was on the radio recently saying that the Irish soldiers at Jadotville should get full recognition (rewarded medals) by the Irish government for their bravery, something which his father tried to do before he died.
Only a few of those soldiers are left alive but time isn’t on their side, which is another reason Leo said they should be honoured.
I would love to know more about what happened both to the Irish peacekeepers and the political environment in the Congo and the global fallout between the time of the surrender of Quinlan and the peacekeepers and when they all eventually were released and made it back to Ireland
Niall O as far as I’m aware until the 21st century the soldiers of A company were treated as cowards and branded the demeaning name “Jadotville Jacks” and for years the incident was covered up by the Irish government and the UN.
@@stephenmurphy2212 Yes, indeed. I meant the treatment of the soldiers while they were imprisoned and then the rest of their time in the Congo. I would also like to understand the political environment and how that changed during and following their tour. It seemed at times like the UN had different rules of engagement under Operation Morthor and tried to force through change, it wasn't the UN we would recognise today. I am very much interested in politics generally but also human elements. Its terrible that the suffering of these soldiers was compounded on their return to Ireland, they were denied their army pensions and shunned by society, despite bravery and overcoming situations that would wither most people.
It's actually a really good film on Netflix.
He was talking about it at the start of this video 😂😂.
The commander of the Katangan Forces was a man named Roger Faulques, a French Legionnaire.
French Legionnaire Vs. UN Peacekeepers. Crazy to think about that.
The UN asked Swedish pilots to attack civilian targets... That is crazy
I seem to remember that he was France's most decorated soldier at the time. He had also been fighting since WW2 with the Maquis, then FFL in Indochina as well as Africa.
I'd love to know more about the story, seen the movie, absolutely disgusted at how these genuine Irish forces were treated by the government that sent them there, without logistics or any creditable back-up.
It is a shame on our forces, not that they surrendered but that they were left in a position where they had no alternative, then treated as an embarrassment.
This happened before I was born, I still feel bad about it.
On a more positive note, I am 'reliably informed' that the ARW do not allow such situations to occur, and if you bring a bad situation to them he he heh, they will bring a very bad situation right back, whenever it suit's them.
@Devyx When I read your comment my 1st thought was surely he means EX foreign Legion, but no , your right, he was given "leave". The Irish were there at the request of the Belgian government who also seem to be the ones employing Faulques. I gave up reading more once I realised that as I guess everyone was being played. Makes NI look simple.
@@conmcgrath7502 they didn't surrender they were captured during a cease fire...
Those men were treated terribly when they came home. My father was friends with a couple of the lads. Our country owes those men one hell of an apology. As for Connor Cruise O Brien he should have been hung for treason for the way he treated his fellow country men.
I hope someone will read all of this as my dad has told me these stories accompanied with news paper clippings for years and has never changed a single detail. Read till the end, it's a positive one I promise!
My dad was an Irish UN peace keeper and served in Lebanon in 84-88-95 we both watched this together. He knows the reality of the job they had/have to do over there and there's no easy way to move around a country that's not yours carrying arms and this is why Ireland are an extremely effective group of peace keepers, we've seen what happens when a military moves in and takes over.
He was in the transport unit so using his head had to have bartering and trade incentives for the variety of check points he would come across in order to get water, fuel from a to b to c, he was confronted many times to give up his cargo at many made-up check points but charmed and wangled his way through them.
He was pinned down under his UN transporter and fired upon repeatedly from an Israeli outpost and could not return fire until he radio'd back to his base, his base then had to radio the UN HQ then the UN HQ had radio I think it was NATO in New York then they had to radio back all of the above to make the decision to either tell the Israeli outpost to stop firing on the UN truck (My Dad) or give him permission to fire back.
Another time he was chauffeuring one of his CO's (commanding Officers) to an official event and he dropped off his CO and waited outside for him in his UN transport unit.
He felt a rumble and noticed in his rear view mirror a massive tank bouncing and plowing its way towards him, as his eyes fixated on the fast approaching massive tank his hands started to try release the safety belt and was jiggling it to release because as the tank was getting closer he realized there was not much room between his car and the power line poles on the other side of the street that the tank was obviously leaving upright and avoiding. He eventually worked himself free got out and the tank rolled over and pealed the car up like a can opener would do shredding it in half..
He then went and, pursued the massive tank on foot and actually ended up on top of the thing.
If you've read this far I'm sure you would want to know what happened next as I have printed news articles to prove it. just like or comment or whatever.
This is the positive bit, my father STILL goes over to Lebanon every year since 2006 after setting up his Irish based charity to help the disadvantaged children and refugees of Lebanon and surrounding areas, please take a look at www.lebanontrust.org to find out more about that and trust me the rest of the tank story is well worth a message of support on the website.
Sorry, forgot to mention, My dad made history after chasing the Tank down, like was the first in history to do this!
"I didn't know the Belgians had a hand in Africa"
The Belgians where infamous for cutting off the hands of slaves, along with other extremely horrible punishments, in the Congo and were some of the most brutal colonisers.
@Pnoch Eowell If you're saying what I said is a lie I'd recommend looking up Belgian Congo Atrocities and reading even the Wikipedia page, you will see.
@Pnoch Eowell The severing of workers' hands achieved particular international notoriety. These were sometimes cut off by Force Publique soldiers who were made to account for every shot they fired by bringing back the hands of their victims.
@Pnoch Eowell The Belgium Congo was the playground of King Leopold II and he was the law there not the Belgium government and before the Belgium government forced him to cede the Congo over to the government at a cost of 215.5 million francs of which 50 million Francs went to him the population of Congo was reduced by 10 million people via slave labour especially in the rubber industry, included forced labour of the native population, beatings, widespread killings, and frequent mutilation when production quotas were not met. That is just a generally agreed number as most people think it really can be as high as 15 million died.
Neither the Belgian government or royal family have apologised for King Leopolds genocide which continued as recently as 1908.
@@TheMattlockyer To be fair, I don't think they did it, mate.
The film and this video failed to mention that the Irish had a section of two Irish manufactured Ford armoured cars. They were armed with highly effective Vickers machineguns of WW1 design which were vital in inflicting casualties on the attackers, and even in fighting off the Fouga jet.
My grandfather built those armoured cars
I definately heard the narrator mention vickers when he was listing their armament.
True, but the "armour plating" of the cars' bodies was just mild steel as there was no Irish firm able to produce hardened armour plating.
The Officer commanding the two armoured cars, Kevin Knightly, compensated by partly digging them into hand-dug scrapes. In the film, the Vickers is shown as mounted on a jeep: this is "artistic licence", but a reasonable portrayal of how vulnerable the crews were.
The WWI Vickers Guns (British-made Maxim guns) cars were invaluable in beating off Katangese ground attacks, but also made the air attacks less effective. The Irish position was long and narrow, so the air attacks came along its axis. Noting this, Knightly had one Vickers cover the direction the plane attacked from, and the other its flight path as it pulled out after each strafing pass. From then on the plane only attacked from a higher, less effective altitude.
Sorry correction, the public did not shun them the establishment did. And still try to ignore what they did. The Irish ministry of defence still ignores the the commendations for bravery that were submitted for all that survived that 5 days of hell
I had the honour of meeting John Gorman who took part in the Siege of Jadotville as a 17 year old recruit. He said he would have followed Major Pat Quinlan through the gates of hell; a superb leader of men.
Even older siege, Rorkes Drift. Well worth checking out.
Now that's a classic, lets forget about the battle before that where we got our back sides kicked :(
I had a relative at that battle
You should check out Zulu too
The movie Zulu is one of my favorite old movies
It wasn't a siege, it only lasted a few hours.
I like this guy..... tuned in/smart..... and honest!!! Great video!! I’ll be subscribing!!!
This was amazing to see, it's a shame that I am a month late. Thank you for highlighting our Irish military history.
There is still a campaign to this day to give the soldiers of Jadotville the respect and medals they deserve. 🇮🇪🤝🇺🇸
We also had 2 armoured cars in that battle that helped us most people forget about it
We're hard bastards to take down. God Bless Ireland and our peacekeepers. 60 years unbroken service in the cause of peace. Sadly it took years to recognise their bravery and commend them for it 💚🤍🧡🇮🇪
The Irish tried to make peace where ever they went better than other nations that just glorify war I'm proud of our army. But just like the rest of us ordinary working people they never get the recognition they deserve and the men in jokiville were treated horribley. The last heroic thing they did was to save the Filipino army from ISIS in northern Syria. Our army is probably one of the most under rated armies in the world
@@Minime163 Irish across the world have a impeccable reputation for bravery under fire the US has given thousands of MOH to Irish American soldiers during our civil war the irish brigades where considered some of the finest fighting soldiers. Especially when they where allowed to fight under the green flag of their home. And across the world its the same the boys that fought in spain not for gold ir glory but freedom same in Argentina mexico all over. My grandparents came to the states and i have been back to Ireland many times growing up iam proud of the stock i was borne and i love Ireland as much as the USA would love to see more of the south though as i spent most my trips in the north
@@michaelc225 welcome any time mick
@@Minime163 thanks mo chara hoping to take the family next year
I love when people find out we're far from leprechauns 🙄
If you can get your hands on a book called “Are you alright Christy” written by Christy Flemming it gives personal accounts of his time spent in the Congo and the attack on the Katanga airport. Proud to have my Dad mentioned in this memoir as he served in the Congo with Christy.
"Didn't know Belgium had any HAND , in Africa" How was that not a pun?!?
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They almost didn't . All the hands were in Belgium.
I was taught about this battle in school. I can remember my teacher telling us that our forefathers fought against the most powerful empire in history for nearly 800 years, so fighting difficult battles has always been in our blood. Even in tough work departments the Irish work hard and never let stress get to them. One of the cultural quirks we have that makes me proud to be Irish
Ever wonder who built america? Irish workers.. They were the most productive and hardworking men..
The 60s are some of the most violent, corrupt and gut wrenching tomes of Ireland's history both abroad and at home. Its nice that we have a story like this so we can at least say somthing good happened at this time.
Just subbed total respect you for giving total respect too these honourable irish soldier's
when quinlan was reporting back to command during the middle of the siege he said "We will hold out until our last bullet is spent. Could do with some whiskey". christ, what a man.
I was in a Reserve Unit in the Irish Army and we had a full time Soldier attached to us who had been there. No matter how hard we tried to get him to tell us about it, he’d always change the subject. The way they were treated by the Govt and the Irish Public was outrageous, the People gradually came around to the right way of looking at it but the official recognition took far too long.
As a by the way, the author of the book which led to the Netflix movie, Declan Power, was also a member of the same unit (before he joined the full time service).
Great film. Kit is pretty accurate too at least for the Irish troops
"State of the art. For WWII anyway"
Irish counter battery fire from their mortars took out those mortars and field guns.
They were very well trained, they did not fuck about.
React to the first British army VC in World War One awarded posthumously to Lieutenant Maurice Dease at Mons 1914. And maybe another for the 'All American' 82nd Infantry Regiment in WW1 as I just found out my great uncle fought with them at the battles of St. Mihiel and Meuse-Argonne.
Whats the name of the movie or is it called the Siege of Jadotville too? Very well done operation, RESPECT from Finland🇫🇮🙂🤙!!!
Great video as always sir.. I have a good video reaction for you it's the S.A.S the battle of mirbat in Oman Jordan in the 70s heavily outnumbered brave brave men as all troops are all over the world respect..
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This guy according to his description has more decoration's than idi Amin Dada....I think he gave himself a medal just for watching Jadotville.....what a RICHARD HEAD this dude is
It's not the only time Irish troops deployed for UN operations have been left high and dry in terms of supplies.. the same happened in Lebanon where the UN wouldn't send supply convoys to a outpost but they did send a priest to read last rights to the troops.
Nah, I think, there were just more than just one instance of decision makers involved, the blessing instance apparently the only one not too crowded by superiors to confuse everything, though still "functioning" as one would expect.
my father and two uncles were there Bernard Sweeney what a great man........
My father was in the 34th Battalion. Saw a lot. My dad's unit were ambushed at a train station. The driver ran off and my father's unit had to fight off the Luba tribesmen and Tshombes army. My Dad was a Bren Gunner. They left about a 100 dead after them. They had only 20 men.
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I watched your video then watched the film on netflix ,now im back to watch this again to see how accurate the movie was im Irish and never herd of this and i know people who were in the army at that time. I taught they were very Brave Irish Men. They could be in Africa one month and the next month on Portlaoise prison roof watching over IRA POW. its one of the most protected prisons in Europe.
My grandmothers brother was there. Because the Irish government regarded the mission as a failure, and therefore something to be ashamed of it was never spoken about. Especially many of the men who were actually there.
The Irish government awarded medals to the surviving members. Many had died before their efforts were fully recognised.
Posthumus awards again . . Too little, too late
I knew some of those soldiers. My dad owned a Barbershop in Dublin and most of the soldiers still lived in around Dublin citycentre, would come in to have a haircut and a chat. They would tell stories of how badly they were equipped. Some of them would talk about their tour to the congo. Some would politely change the conversation. You could see they didn't want to go there. Barbershops are like that. People will open up and talk, some won't because that pain is still very real.
Now I've had my rant over the injustice with which he was treated, Quinlan's tactics during the battle make me wonder if he was a student of his country's history. At the Siege of Clonmel in 1650, Hugh Dubh O'Neill defended the garrison with 1500 men against the siege by Oliver Cromwell with 8000 men and heavy cannon. They were running low on supplies under heavy bombardment, and his request for urgent reinforcements could not be granted. Like Quinlan, he also built inner defences behind a breach in the outer walls where they had been battered by cannon, in the form of a V-shaped-shaped stockade lined with muskets and pikemen, narrowing to a point where he positioned two cannon loaded with chainshot. When Cromwell's troops stormed through the breach they found themselves in a killing zone from which they could not escape due to the push of further troops from behind. Cromwell lost 2000 of his best troops, O'Neill then negotiated a surrender that guaranteed the safety of the town' citizens, and that night he and his forces slipped away intact under cover of darkness. The similarities are uncanny.
Forgot to mention and you don't see it in the film and would account for the low loss of life, the Irish had two armoured cars on station at the time.
My grandad served in the Congo twice. He saw some horrific things there and photographed a lot of what he saw. He was pretty messed up afterwards from what my mum and uncles have said.
That was quinlins first ever operation to command
if you want to comment on a awesome engagement look at the Battle of Rorke's Drift now that's a good one :)
Absolutely, although Zulu isn't 100% historically accurate it's still a dam fine film. Apart from being vastly outnumbered the British did have rifles and were mostly able to move their formations to meet the incoming waves of Zulu warriors, essentially massing and meeting them in strength, shooting from behind barriers. The biggest enemy was fatigue and not knowing if or when reinforcements would arrive. It is very similar to the Irish position in Jadotville, the number of combatants on both sides is extremely similar also. The Katangans though had more firepower and air support. 2 incredibly difficult battles, where leadership made all the difference.
Shay checking in from dublin Ireland thank you all these guys were out for first engagement just kids
I went to a Michael Collins Memorial day in Cathal Bruagh Barracks in Dublin a few years back. There were many who experienced those 5 days in Jadotville present. All retired, of course. But none of whom, spoke with any fondness for those 5 days of terror.
THE PHRASE " AHHHH LADS, GIVE US A BREAK ffs" entered the Irish vernacular around this time.....along with " YOU'LL NEEEEVER BEAT THE IRISH" ; )... LOL
My grandad was in basic training during that battle(he was 17)but his CO was there, the soldiers in Jadotville are from my hometown, Athlone. He later went to Lebanon twice, Israel and Cyprus with the UN. Retired in 1991.
Great film, its upthere with the best of them,
It shows how strong they are, my uncle Mike Moore was one of the first Irish soldiers into the Congo,
He said it was the hardest tour he ever done
Much Respect to your Uncle
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You should react to Operation Buckthorn, it’s an top secret SAS mission that no one really knows about where they raided a hijack vessel of the coast of England
How is he supposed to react to something no one really knows about? Bravo 2-0 or the Iranian Embassy Siege would be better in terms of how many details can be explored
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It was the SBS.
Whats ironic about this situation is although the Irish trrops came under attack from a fouga Mgister jet from the Katanga air force the Irish Air Corps would themselves go on to buy 6 reburshied Fouga Magisters in the mid 70s ,TWO of which were originally intended for delivery to katanga but were held in embargo by the french govt...and apart from the different roundels on the aircraft the Irish Fougas were painted in excatly the same colour scheme as the katanga Fougas.
One probably should mention, that year 1961 was very tense.
Berlin Wall was errected, Kennedy had his Cuba Crisis, Cruschtshev banked his shoe on the table at the UN-HQ in NY.
When I served in the 80,s men from the western brigade were known as jadotville jacks. A lot of A coy were from the west. Many a fight in the mess was about jadotville.
That must have been a sad sight, everyone thinking you're a coward despite gallantly fighting against overwhelming odds.
Were you in the Lebanon lad?
Thank you! Great coverage of that event.
I am an Irishman born in 1964, and I only learnt about this within the last few weeks. We were never told about this is school, and I wonder why.
I know two people who were there. They were out of all resources (Ammo, Food, Water) and had no choice but to stop the fight. They literally used every round twice as they used the spent casings as bomb shrapnel for a trap to stop the advance near the end. The opposition did not believe that the Irish had no deaths, only a few flesh wounds. They even dug around the base, looking for bodies
The Gurkhas where fought off?!?! is that even legal??!!
Who cares what you think about Irish soldiers. The fact that you don't realise or acknowledge the blood sacrifice Ireland has made to your country is shocking. No other nation on earth has more Medals Of Honour than Ireland. Irish Americans make up 2/3rds of all recipients. From the War Of Independence right up to Iraq the Irish has served and fight valiantly for America. Despite their hated of British rule they have 274 Victoria Crosses. Not bad for a neutral country or a small little Island. That's more than the Scots & Welsh. And this is an award given to the most valiant by an institute that descriminated against the Irish. Imagine how many should have got that medal & didn't.
We don't need your blessing.
Well said.
My father-in-law's dad was one of the "Jadotville Tigers". He's a great character, who doesn't speak much about it. According to him, they were their to do the job, and did so as best they could. They are well respected, and will always be remembered as a fine part of Irish military tradition.
I know a guy who has just retired from the Irish army and whilst in Syria him and 5 other men rescued 30 I think Belgian troops from ISIS captivity without ISIS even knowing the 6 Irish troops were there and not a shot was fired
Fact about this multiple soliders in this batalion comited suicide before recinition they were also called the jack squad for surendring
The Irish government put a security gag on it
The Irish Government should have given these soldiers a medal for bravery. they should today give the medals to the families. Respect!!
Yes they did
It wasnt and isnt the mine with the largest Uraniam deposits in the world, that title goes to an Australian mine, while the title of the mine that (now) produces the most in one year belongs to Canada and the title of the mine with the greatest above ground deposits goes to Khazikstan. Most production and international sales of uranium goes to Australia again.
Interesting fact is the trenches weren’t dug into the ground (the ground was too hard). They were actually built up.
One example being a trench was dug into an ant hill