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Kinda feel bad for the ex husband. He dropped out of school just to marry her because he loved her deeply but when she cheated on him he still was kind enough to give her a bit of money.
That's what Cluster-Bs do to you. They ruin your life. They also ruin the lives of others who share the distinct misfortune of being within the same hemisphere as the person with a Cluster-B personality disorder.
It's not just the people who harmed her, it's her own character as well. She killed a baby. People who were abused and bullied can also grow up to be good people. It depends on the character.
She likely has been sexually abused by her father or relatives as kid and formed the excuse of having a "magnetic personality" as a way to cope. Saw she never was reprehended for doing things and just didn't form the impulse control of typical adults. There were thousands way this could go better. From her sexual abuser getting caught, to state offering psychological therapy to these people.
@@ArakishiTokugawa No hate or offense to the people of Japan either but their way of thinking of "these are kids who were like this from the beginning, there's no helping them" needs to be stopped as well. If Moka never got help and Saori Okada was also one of those people who thought like that, then Moka would've most likely ended up in Kanna's situation as well
Biologically, people's brains are wired to be a certain way, but studies show that life experience, environment and other components have a bigger weight when it comes to a person's characteristics. Most people that get bullied go through it during their childhood, one of the most important development stages for humans psychologically so YES everything that happens during childhood will have an impact on you when you grow up. Even if some bully victims grow up to be good people, they still grow to develop other issues that limit them from actually living a good and plentyful life. Schools need to take bullying more seriously, and show better forms of support for their students.
There are plenty of people who have been through horrible things and not gone on to be murderers. Trauma is not an excuse. Everyone is responsible for their own actions.
Agreed. Ted Bundy was abused by most of his women figures as a child, and what possibly birthed his sinister nature and crimes, but his crimes was still unforgivable
Bad take. Everyone hasn't been in the same horrible shit. You cannot excuse murder of course, but there's still a root for this problem. People don't just born as murderers.
@@entezami777 I agree with you many people get bullied and sexually assaulted but they don't go on killing people having a bad past doesn't give you a pass to kill someone innocent not only she killed a kid she also never cared about the only person who actually cared about her her husband loved her enough to support her good thing her first daughter was with her husband and her parents who knows what would have happened her first daughter would have been one of the victims along with her new born baby sibling
People such as Kanna Asanuma ARE THE REASON why we DO NOT take mental health seriously. I've said this basic fact of life time and time again, for YEARS, nearly a full decade and a half of my young, 20-something-year-old life dealing with mentally ill people at my school, my college and in my own family. It's best to take the 36th Strategem and leave them to the dogs at this stage. They can not be allowed to leech compassion and empathy from the naive, the deluded and the gullible. If so, then it is the loss of the defrauded, fools and their money as they say.
Kanna has mental issues & deep insecurieties together with being taken advantage of, which caused her to be twisted. This is the type of stuff one whos been SA'd from childhood has.
Victim of SA aren't baby burning monsters. Mental illness, being bullied, being taken advantages of, none of those excuse her from the fact that she BURNED her baby.
Add to that a country that's 123rd in the gender equality ranking, where female birth control demands monthly doctors visits, the possibility of her ever getting help were slim to none.
@@Felladin Well how many women is this 123rd in the gender equality ranking country has : Cheated on her ex-husband multiple times, Stole from them multiple times, Scam multiple people using her daughter she didn't care for, Owes multiple host bars a boatload of money then running away. Lastly leaving her baby at a beach, BURNED. How many victim of inequality in Japan end up like Kanna?
@@Felladin I agree with your overall perspective, however I wanted to clarify this outdated information. Now you can get birth control that lasts you for months in a single trip. However you do need to have a consultation on healthy and proper use first before you can purchase them.
Yeah... No. I don't care how tragic your story is, I refuse to give a baby burner even an atom of sympathy. I've met some incredible people who've gone through exponentially worse.
Why people like you make competition of other's people's cases and dismiss the fact someone's mentality,circumstances state is different? Then can I say, there are people who has problem worse than you but they never make your story as misery competition?
@@angelsub9184 How funny. I don't know what you want from me, I'm just stating the facts. I get the world can be cruel, but that gives you no reason to take it out on innocent bystanders, especially in such horrific manners. Bad childhoods can only excuse so much before you cross the path of no return.
@@angelsub9184 why can't we dismiss it? Either grow up and stop being a lil bitch taking it out on others because you're too weak or you could just not. Your choice.
I don’t think Kanna cared about the child, to go from that to burning a baby alive is extremely cruel. If she really didnt want the baby anymore she would have left it somewhere where someone could take it. No, she had no intention of taking care of the child. Shes the type who likes putting up appearances, she liked the sympathy being pregnant gave her. It probably gave her some protection from some people or allowed her to scam more people. Shes a vile person through and through that only cares about herself. Probably also an extreme narcissist, or possibly even a sociopath in addition to being a kleptomaniac.
TikTok seems like a universal vector for the worst behaviour imaginable. Doesn’t matter what language, culture, religion etc. The amount of “TikTokkers” that do some dance after committing the worst crimes or planning a crime is insane. It *is* the modern dancing-plague.
There have always been terrible people. It just seems like there are “more” nowadays because you see so many people online that you’d never in a million year meet or get to know face to face. It’s not like TikTok is possessing these people lol
The largest social media app for multiple years in a row would have a larger amount of stuff happening. But also due to the sheer size of user base, it’s probably normal or below the average per capita.
@@rajanicn9269 Unfortunately body shaming is rampantly normal in Japan. Some female Japanese UA-camrs and J-Tik-Tokers mentioned they didn't realize how bad it was, until they visited the West and got a different perspective.
@@bishop51807 Unfortunately? They live significantly longer than the west. It's unfortunate that the west pushes fat acceptance. Obviously one of these two approaches are better for the general population. I'd rather push healthy lifestyles on people than avoid hurting feelings of people who are going to live miserable lives and die young.
People really Need to stop making excuses for Dysfunctional/ evil Women an Good looking Men. Yes how one grows up can have an affect on them later on but that’s still no excuse for murder an destroying everyone else’s life you contact
Fr, beautiful criminals have people excusing their actions and insisting on sympathy. If you're actually kind and harmless, but ugly, you'll get persecuted without doing anything.
I can't believe people are actually trying to protect her from what she did It was horrible I can't believe that an innocent child was killed and burned right after he/she was born if her first daughter wasn't taken care of by her parents when she was running place to place with her new boyfriend who knows what would have happened to her first daughter she could have been one of the victim of her horrible mother
It’s an insult to people who were SAed to say this is why she did this. My dad was SAed as a child, he was the best dad. I don’t even get it. Especially since these kinds of things are apparently common in Japan, yet it’s obviously not common to do what this psycho did…
This young lady is a sociopath. I mean there are young people who make dumb, near sighted decisions all the time, but this is on another level. The ex-husbands parents needed to kick her out when divorce proceedings were filed.
I was thinking the same thing. What was more chilling was that the son was under her control and like literally killed for her. He just so desperately wanted her love and attention no matter the consequences. But it begs to question; did he turn out to be a sociopath like his mother?
I have been exposed to way worst bullying than she faced (every single school day, no rest, constant harrassement) and it only stopped when I was 17yo. There is no excuses to do things like she did. Your backstory doesnt allow you for crimes.
As a girl who was bullied and sexually assaulted in middle school, I didn't go on to do the things she did. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't have made a horrible scar on her psyche, since she's not me or you. That said, that's no excuse for what she did. We can just see it as one part of a bigger whole. For me, my experience is one part of a bigger whole. I can't open myself to anyone irl. The thought terrifies me to this day, because when I sought for help, my parents called me a liar and laughed at me, saying I wanted attention. I haven't hurt anyone. I've never broken the law. I will always support others in bad situations, but I can't offer myself to anyone, making my experience back then as a part of a whole. And you still carry your situation with you, as one part of your whole, and it defines traits in you. It doesn't mean it's responsible for anything wrong that you do to others, but it's still there. It still is a part of the puzzle that is you.
is no one reacting to "compensated dating" with people in her age bracket being 12-15?? I have heard this being a huge issue in Japan but no one talks about it.
This is just an observation from a non-Japanese person: In regards of the "Tokyoko Kids" I think generalizing these kids and associating them with this Kanna individual is maybe not a good way to think of them. Probably, the majority of the toyoko kids can be helped. Kanna, more than likely has a personality disorder such as "antisocial personality disorder". She tics off a lot of the criteria for being a "Sociopath", the lying, stealing, identity theft, ect... I would wager to say that most of the toyoko kids are normal kids who come from abusive or unstable homes, and can be helped to become good members of society.
What they did is not being kind, that is being nice. You can be kind without being nice and in this case, they needed to show kindness without letting her off the hook. For her, well, we all know how weak minded she was or is
Teenagers and young adults don't end up this way simply because "they're just delinquents", that's just an easy way for people to not think too much on the issue. I believe that all of this is a result on Kanna's home life and daily social interactions. I'm going off assumption that she was abused or neglected in some way by her family when she was young due to her being associated with papakatsu's and she wouldn't have abandoned nor burn her own children. She has also been bullied by boy's playing with her feelings and being terrible to her which is all unexcusable, which led to her being this way. But that also doesn't excuse her own behavior, she has the choice to not steal, cheat, and run away fromm her problems regardless of that "urge". She knows what she's doing, if she didn't then it wouldn't have escalated so quickly. Her ex-husband and his family did continue to enable her behavior for allowing her to stay at their home despite her nearly financially ruining their lives by stealing and racking debt under their names. People around her abused her and enabled her bad behavior, and the "It can't be helped" phrase really came true to her being someone who literally cannot be helped unless something tragic happens to her (and even then for how many henious acts she's commited, who knows if that'd really impact her to the point of change?). Though i don't know too much about Mako mentioned at the end of the video, she ran away from her abusive father in search for something better in life. That could mean that Mako knew what was good and bad and she chose to try to save herself unlike Kanna who remained delusional. Mako had a terrible home life but maybe had decent social life (whether online or irl) to get herself out of the situation and Kanna didn't. To me the solution is to raise kids better by families being their childrens support system who actually care for them and don't condone/tolerate destructive behaviors. Even if their family is their biological one and is a found family (like a community or friend group), this is what should be done.
What I am about to say is not for her but for the whole "bad kids had traumatized childhood thing" that is 🐄💩that many in fact "therapist" take advantage of that and try to help them avoid accountability but at the same time to victimize them in the eyes of the world in order to look like they did a great job so they can attract more costumers (and i managed to fish several therapist into admitting that in private conversations). Obviously there are exceptions to the rule but the majority of bullies, abusive or degenerate people is the exact opposite reasons, they were raised spoiled and entitled but when the shit hits the fan or they get find out or someone fights back they then proceed to play the victims and give and even fabricate sob stories to get pity and get away with it. Not only you can search it in more depth if you are really interested (can't share links, every time I do YT takes my comment down) in fact cause over the years more and more of these kind of cases proved down the road that the so called "victims of rough childhood" had a hell of a lot of good childhood I also have seen it many times in my line of work (Private security services) with many people do all that and even going above and beyond to falsify evidence to avoid the consequences of their actions. So she might not have been abused at all, in fact quite the opposite, HOWEVER with that said I don't know her, I have no way of knowing her past for sure so since I am not sure and i don't want to make baseless accusations I'll rest my case in this one but that kind of thinking is enabling bad people not only to continued doing bad, but even grow even worse since they avoid the consequences of their actions.
I believe that a balance between your comment and the reply could either be the result. I had a cousin who was extremely spoiled but her home life was TOXIC…she had no balance so throughout her entire life she has made terrible life choices and odd behavior. The tragedy is the result of the baby ending up suffering from her twisted immoral behavior. I will now pray for this cousin…she once left her two toddlers with me for four days and not even compensating me. Thank GOD for her mother who practically raised her two children. 🤍🙏🏽
It's absolutely true that cause-and-effect creates delinquent children. Some teenagers also choose terrible decisions because humans make terrible decisions and it's that simple. How many well-loved and well-liked middle-class "regular" dudes start acting like hoodrats because they think it's cool? THOUSANDS. I saw many of those at college/uni. They had no reason except their freedom of choice and it feels good. Their fathers and mothers loved them, but getting laid, being a "badboy" and being intoxicated surrounded by woman giving them attention makes them feel good. Not every single bad person can say "it was my upbringing". What upbringing would cause you to give birth to a child and BURN IT ALIVE IN PUBLIC? For God's sake... there is a balance. Some people are made that way, some choose to be that way, and most are a mixture of the two.
I think that is often true but not always. My older brother for example. We had the same family, same parents. I am not aware of any abuse that he suffered (maybe something happened that I don't know about), and we had really good and nice parents. Me and my other siblings all turned out ok, but he has always had impulse issues and no regard for other people. We never knew why. My parents tried everything to help him including therapy, medication, rehab, etc. but he continues to make awful choices and hurt people. We have always said it almost seems like he has something wrong with his brain because he had a good, fairly healthy childhood but continues to act this way.
Dude, that is not kleptomania! When I was at a kid's clinic and my parents were talking to the physicians about my brother I often got to play on the playground with all the kids from the psych ward, among others. One of the girls there had kleptomania, but she never stole anything big or important. You could bet she'd take small toys, sparkly stones and pens if they were lying around without even consciously thinking about it, but if you asked her whether she had 'found' something you were missing she always returned it. Usually she couldn’t even tell why she put it in her pocket. She grabbed forks and candy bars and name tags. She never planned her little thefts or went for people's valuables like wallets on purpose, and if she did pick up something valuable it was more of a coincidence (I know she picked up a wedding ring off the window sill in the lady's toilet once, but later turned it in to the nurse, which is really just a case of lost and found). She couldn’t be left alone in a store though since she'd just start putting whatever she took a liking to into her pocket.
Someone can be a horrible person and you can still have sympathy for the person they SHOULD'VE been. No one turns out like she did for no reason. She likely has far more horrific trauma than we realize for her brain to be so warped
@@FransceneJK98That's why we have sympathy for who she SHOULD have been, not who she is. I have sympathy for the abused and misled child. I do not have sympathy for the criminal asshole that child chose to become.
Genetics exist yall. You know there are people millions of people who have gone through way worse that would never do this right? It’s an illogical explanation.
@@FransceneJK98psychology is complex thing. What people label as psycho acts, psychologist try to understand where the root of behavior come from to gain insight. Any shortcut of judgement made us prevent to see whole picture.
It is unfortunate that to see collectivist countries such as Japan under capitalism, leaving troubled young people on the road, due to the absence of proper government resources to help the people and prevent society from decaying.
This isn't an ideological issue, this is an individual example of a personality disorder. Josh Slocum has excellent interviews where he details how personality disorders function. Keep in mind that they are DISORDERS OF PERSONAILTY! They can NOT be fixed or saved. You can only leave them for the dogs.
@DR3ADER1 capitalism isn't an ideology, it's an economic system favoured by different ideologies. I was talking about the phenomenon, of young people living on the street and in otherwise unstable situations, not receiving the social services, such as housing, mental health, and other community services, they would need to get on the wrong path. This girl obviously was more disturbed than others, but she could have gotten more help too.
@DR3ADER1 that personality disorders can't be "fixed" to a degree that someone is able to positively participate in society, also is just false. Modern medicine offers various forms of therapy and medication that can help the majority of people with personality disorders, to not fall into distructive patterns of behavior.
@@mx338 Incorrect, Borderline Personality Disorder is part of the greater spectrum of Cluster-B Personality Disorders. In fact, most psychologists recommend that you AVOID people with Cluster-B Personalities on the spot. Not only are they unpredictable, but they also (and this is a consistent pattern with a lot of these individuals) do not view themselves as people with a problem, they think that they are normal people. They also love to control others to gain a significant level of narcissistic supply and fuel for their own cover/self-image. It doesn't help that they prey on the goodwill of others as a tool to satisfy themselves and only themselves. Furthermore, anyone who has to rely on deception and self-deception to function in the real world is by DEFINITION, the type of person who CAN NOT FUNCTION IN THE REAL WORLD. Modern Medicine does not help them, treatments of any kind and category do not help them. Nothing helps them, because they do not think that they need to be helped, rather, they often think that YOU need help. They are destructive people and destructive people who consistently test and frequently break the limits of even well-adjusted, well-meaning people who do not discriminate or stigmatise others for the sake of it. They may use victim narratives, however they are not victims, they are culprits. People who rarely act in good faith. And if you still think that operating in the same Hemisphere with BPD patients and other Cluster-B personalities is a good idea, don't come crying to anyone about the weird and chaotic mess you end up in inevitably by interacting with people with broken social circles. Let it be known that BPD is at the very top of mental illnesses that are patently unfixable, and untreatable and cause the most amount of damage to those who have to deal with them not only on a day-to-day basis but also after they cut ties with them. The damage never stops with these people and they'll continue to be like this well into their 60s, 70s and 80s/90s. Once again, it is a disorder of personality, not a standard learning disability or mental ailment that you can work with. They are unworkable people.
so her parents couldn't give a damn about her, never noticed their middle schooler daughter gets money out of nowhere from sleeping with old men, her classmates bullied her, teachers who surely saw and knew that chose to do nothing about it (they always do), and now we're acting surprised that she grew up traumatized and did awful things? "this couldn't be helped". yup, indeed. nobody could see it coming. just call her a "delinquent" and continue demonizing a victim and mental health issues, without seeing the reason. the predatory men who SA'd a child, the bullies in her school, the absent parents that praised her for early pregnancy are your ideal figures of society, probably.
No, they aren't, even the Japanese commenters mentioned in the video could see that, but it's not an excuse for burning a newborn baby alive. She may have had mental issues that went undiagnosed and were allowed to worsen. Normal people who are victimized grow up to be very sensitive to it as an adult. She continually demonstrated a pathological lack of sympathy despite help from people who tried to treat her well.
@@diemes5463 "normal people who are victimized" well, sorry to break it to you, but some people can't just be gigachads and overcome traumas on their own and be fluffy healthy sunshines, duh. trauma affects people differently, you can't speak for all of them. someone's personal experience isn't indicative of the norm. i can't understand what's your point exactly? and where did i say that trauma and mental health issues are an excuse to a crime? my guy not even once in the video said how f-d up all of these people who mistreated her were. CSA was mentioned like it's nothing out of the ordinary, ah, you know, perverts exist. sometimes they pay girls for... "compensated dating", yeah, it just happens, so moving on... kids "pranked" her in school for hihi haha purposes. this is fine, boys will be boys amirite. her parents were "living in a nightmare because of their daugher". so when she was underage she didn't need their help? sleeping for money since young age wasn't a nightmare? kids growing in loving families usually don't do that thinking it's normal and fun, fyi. it was her parents' responsibility to teach her that. but nvm they were good people, they "supported her even after pregnancy", such angels! he's focusing only on kanna's crime, shifts viewers' attention away from the others' and downplays the severity of her traumatic childhood experiences, using phrases like "she believed herself to be attractive", "she tricked herself into thinking..", for god's sake, we're talking about a neglected and abused kid. of freaking course, she's most likely to not be "normal". and then he concludes that this "couldn't be helped". idk if he's tone deaf in this case or he intentionally overlooks the whole context and neglects to acknowledge the issues that led to this. is CSA not a crime and traumatic life-changing experience? bullying isn't traumatic at all? neglecting kids is normal? the reasons why she's messed up are literally there. it's as if there's no other purpose of this video but to show yeah, there was such a heartless b--ch, let's just hate her. ofc there's no excuse for her crime, nobody says that. but would this happen if her parents gave a damn about their child? i doubt that. sorry, but her husband "treating her well" isn't gonna cure years of what she went through and what shaped her to become like this. also wouldn't hurt to teach stupid kids empathy and that bullying isn't good. some kids grow up strong despite it and some literally end their lives because of someone's "pranks". the channel is called 'analysis' but i missed the analysis part, only that he's surprised that people tried to understand why she grew up like that and that he can't understand how she could've done that. too bad, some people actually want to use their brains instead of blindly hating someone they don't even know.
@@blind_aggressionShe still could have cared for the baby (and with care, I mean not killing the child when it is already alive). I get stealing or other stuff like sleeping around with men at an young age due to her issues but when an innocent child is killed? Doesn’t matter the background nor reason, that is still fucked up and punishment is deserved but I agree with you, everyone copes with their trauma differently. Some ways are healthy, some are not (although she is a special case of not healthy) and people need to be taught right from wrong without inflicting trauma and need to encourage people to be more willing to seek out good professional help. The people that traumatized her need punishment although I am still of the belief that she deserves more just because of the severity of the crime
@@MonkeyDToniProductions oh, really? Daaaamn. I didn't realize... I guess... I guess we don't need psychiatry anymore! Mentally unwell people can just get their shit together and... and not do things anymore! Das crazy. We're getting out of a psych ward with this one!
@@Lucio14045 The ex-husband deserved better, he has such a good heart. Even after she cheated and stole he still gave her a roof over her head. I hate that some people exploit goodness like this.
Good men have this flaw that they feel like they can help her heal from her past and "save her" and be different then the men who hurt her, super hero syndrome, unfortunately this only ends up hurting them 😢. To those men, you can't change her bro. Just let her go..
As a casual observer, I think that her very apparent undiagnosed psychopathy was a much bigger factor here, even more so than her alleged kleptomania. I think that this issue was a much more serious problem. It is not normal to leave a baby to die in this manner. There have been cases of women abandoning their child, or to get rid of them out of desperation due to social norms, but to burn them alive? Very few people who are capable of feeling empathy for those around them would be able to carry out such an act so casually, especially to a helpless newborn baby, unless a person was physically threatened and coerced each and every step of the way under terror, or under threat of GRAVE harm, almost as a form of mental torture. It is very clear that she wanted to get rid of the baby, and through the rush of ideas in her mind as to how to do it, there was nothing that stopped her when she landed on this SPECIFIC idea internally, and mentally through her thought process. People like this need to be diagnosed from a very early age to receive therapy needed to mitigate their lifelong condition. This is a mental condition that CANNOT BE CURED. Horrible things can happen in society if these people are not detected and diagnosed early on in life. The problem here is not just the person who committed these crimes, nor just the callous people that sexually abused this child when she was still so young, the problem, the greatest problem is with the society that refuses to fix these problems, and is unable to understand the long term cost in terms of danger, pain, suffering and sheer terror that refusing to invest in solving these problems in society can cause, when you look at the resources committed to social governance from a purely dollar-based perspective in the short term. Even if you were thinking about the purely dollar-based amount of damage that not just Kanna, but so many others like her that were born in her generation had caused to society, there comes a point that when investing in preventative measures in society would've BEEN CHEAPER than the use of austerity and a smaller state in order to pursue a fiscal agenda. This is the opportunity cost of following such an agenda. It is VERY clear that not enough money was invested in the society that this woman and many others like her grew up in to prevent these kinds of problems, or at least mitigate them. The goodwill of Japanese people, and the assumption that they will not commit any crimes, is not a substitute for a peaceful society. Nor is the use of heavy-handed punishments in order to punish those who have fallen through the cracks, if such people as this go undiagnosed. What punishment will bring this poor child back to life? What punishment will allow for these debtors to be repaid ALL the money that they have now lost? What punishment is going to repair the emotional damage that Kanna's parents, her first husband and their parents now have to permanently live with and suffer under? With the rise of increasing automation in our society, and the loss of jobs becoming more and more apparent, as well as demographic trends in advanced economies creating more and more worker shortages, most apparent in Korea, as well as famously Japan, the way we think about how our societies need to be managed to keep people safe, as well as the way that we think about the ways that our economies work is going to need to radically change to meet the challenges of society and social welfare today. I hope that this poor child is in a better place today. I hope that Kanna's ex-husband and their parents, as well as Kanna's parents who are raising her first child, are able to recover both emotionally and financially. I have particular sympathy for her ex-husband, who had not only his entire life, but the lives of his parents utterly destroyed because of his choice of partner and his desire to a be a kind, thoughtful, caring and responsible human being, and all of this destroyed through NO fault of his own. I hope that all honest people that were defrauded through this woman and her partner's actions will be able to recover financially. Perhaps most of all, I sincerely hope that Kanna, and her partner, if they happen to avoid the death penalty, will one day be able to live with the weight and shame of the horrific crimes that they decided to commit in society. This entire story was a failure on top of failure, on so many different levels. Society will not change until people have the compassion and the direct sense needed to make the repairs needed to keep people safe and happy, and away from the horrible dangers that a refusal to change society will cause, yet again, if these problems are not rectified, and that if people in power refuse to act. I hope Japanese society, and the communities affected will be able to recover from the memory of this horrific incident, and all the ills that caused it, and I hope they are able to one day find and cultivate a lasting peace and justice in their society. #日本
One other takeaway from this case should be, there should be easier options for giving children up to adoption. In Japan except for Kumamoto prefecture, there's no easy options for giving up a child. If something like baby hatches was more widespread, the babies life would likely haven been saved.
Or maybe not have sociopaths raise children in the first place. Again, Kanna is a narcissistic sociopath with Cluster-B symptoms. She was never going to improve. Ever. Full stop.
This should be a reality all around the world. In some places, a mother can give up the baby for adoption even before giving birth, wich means that as soon as she gives birth, she will receive the support needed to give the child to adoption
You have to be careful looking for a cause and effect for deep seated behaviors that lead to psychopathic, cruelty, or sadism in individuals. Not every serial killer for example had a bad childhood or every person who had a bad childhood is going to end up a sadist. Andrei Chikatilo for example when asked “did you have a bad childhood?” He answered roughly: “other than being poor, I had a normal childhood. There are many children as poor as me.” He went on to kill 300+. Compulsion is not what drives her cruelty. It’s the difference between compulsion and impulse control. Compulsion implies she has no idea what she is doing is wrong. In fact she does but either chooses to ignore the impact of others because her needs and wants are greater or simply because she lacks empathy is unable to even understand. She also, being young has an undeveloped ability (or possibly atrophied ability) to fully recognize the consequences of her actions. That part of the brain can take up to age 25 to develop (usually late in males). It’s not to say bullying and a poor or neglectful relationship with her father didn’t help. I have not finished the video but without a cause of death on the baby (which are difficult to assess in children even without the incineration) she may not have murdered the child bit instead had a miscarriage or delivered stillborn. Very fascinating content. 🤗 I would suggest to read John Douglas, books and textbooks are invaluable, who developed the FBI profiling training program and even appears in the film, was inspiration for Jodie foster’s boss, and was an advisor on the film “silence of the lambs”. You have to be careful looking for a cause and effect for deep seated behaviors that lead to psychopathic, cruelty, or sadism in individuals. Not every serial killer for example had a bad childhood or every person who had a bad childhood is going to end up a sadist. Andrei Chikatilo for example when asked “did you have a bad childhood?” He answered roughly: “other than being poor, I had a normal childhood. There are many children as poor as me.” He went on to kill 300+. Compulsion is not what drives her cruelty. It’s the difference between compulsion and impulse control. Compulsion implies she has no idea what she is doing is wrong. In fact she does but either chooses to ignore the impact of others because her needs and wants are greater or simply because she lacks empathy is unable to even understand. She also, being young has an undeveloped ability (or possibly atrophied ability) to fully recognize the consequences of her actions. That part of the brain can take up to age 25 to develop (usually late in males). It’s not to say bullying and a poor or neglectful relationship with her father didn’t help. Very fascinating content. 🤗 I would suggest to read John Douglas, books and textbooks are invaluable, who developed the FBI profiling training program and even appears in the film, was inspiration for Jodie foster’s boss, and was an advisor on the film “silence of the lambs”.
The best thing we can do is, despite the negative environment that influences such behavior at such an early age, we should strive to give the next generation the most ideal environment they could possibly have to avoid irredeemable, grim futures and mental issues like this.
IN MY OPINION this isn’t a good analysis of Kanna Asanuma just based on the disregard and misinformation on childhood sexual trauma. The UA-camr speaks on her past, claims to “understand” how this may have affected her psychological development but then proceeds to say he doesn’t understand how the Japanese UA-camrs can sympathise with her (I assume the Japanese public took this stance due to how childhoods such as the one kanna endured are typical and they can perhaps relate more than sheltered westerners). She was being sexually assaulted as a FIRST GRADER, for those who don’t understand how important this information is: the prefrontal cortex begins development during that time in women and that’s the part of the brain that’s in charge of behaviour and critical thinking. To have been used by older men at such a young age definitely mutilated her brain making her unable to develop into a normal adult. The whole narrative that she’s the person she is because of “kleptomania” and “she can’t resist sleeping with attractive men” because of this urge to possess is wrong. Kleptomania does not cause hyper sexuality. She’s a victim of child sexual abuse, which causes hyper-sexuality. Her seeking out sexual partners at host clubs, cheating multiple times and even when she was younger, the pride she had in claiming how “desirable” she was to classmates is symptomatic of this trauma. Her then refusal to be maternal and the horrible crime she committed. To someone uneducated with female psychology, the easiest verdict to pass is ; she’s a horrible selfish person who is a cold blooded killer. Which again is wrong. She’s a trauma victim living in a country where mental health illness are not treated. Her doing what she did is not the work of a sane person. You and I wouldn’t even think of BURNING a child to death. She could’ve just abandoned it at a church or care home, even a public restroom, if her goal was to rid herself of the responsibilities of child care. But she chose the most extreme option. If you can’t fathom her actions then you can fathom how her mind isn’t normal. And that she is sick. I found this video PERSONALLY too condemning. There wasn’t much understanding of how someone can go an do something like what she did , and strangely enough I feel like it focuses a lot more on the suffering of the men in her life rather than her. Which was odd. Especially since this video is about her. I wonder why the UA-camr chose to do this? Perhaps so we wouldn’t sympathise with her? At least that’s how it felt like to me, and reading just a few of these comments if that was his goal it worked.
There seems to be a strong superfical level of living in japan and some important issues are left unaddressed the song Unspoken words by Status Quo offers some reflection Dear Kanna
I thought I was the only one could have thought this well I think no point saying that to half of them cause maybe they just not care for that because of something
@@TheBadassTonberry That's still a sociopath. And once more, you can NOT help people with ASPD, they'll always try to find ways to fix YOU and present themselves as the victim.
Why blame the father for abuse without evidence? It’s just as likely that Kanna is suffering from antisocial personality disorder, judging from her narcissism and manipulative behavior. Impulsivity and lack of remorse are more common in sociopaths than abuse survivors.
Thank you ❤ and this is genetic, I have people in my family who have it, it is not because of abuse, THEY are the ones who abuse the rest of their family (including me). These comments make me sick
More than it "cannot be helped" it seems most people in her life just thought that she could not be helped (e.g. asked to change) and let her be. All people in her life either bullied or ended up saying that she could not be helped changing, so she did not change. No one" controlled" whether she was going to school, the host club itself let her accumulate such a big debt probably knowing themselves she could not pay and so on.
Which is why they want to her parents' house for the money and lost debts. And why she was blacklisted from most Host Clubs in all of Osaka, one of the largest cities in Japan because she couldn't pay them back due to her compulsive spending. When you apply logic to these narratives, the whole "Kanna was a victim" diatribe falls apart quicker than a Honda NSX reaches 0-120km/h.
im halfway through, ~17:30 the ex husbands gucci bag? ngl, that does make me wonder how the financial situation of them actually was. also, up to this point, everything sounds pretty much as if that girl was groomed and manipulated by multiple people, and from what it sounds like, likely with the threat of violence. not trying to say the stuff she did was understandable, but it also feels like w/e situation she was in, is not a situation someone should be in; which makes it kind of hard for me to not feel like blaming her, rather than the society that allows for people to end up in situations like that.
I mean, you could still be average financial wise and get a Gucci bag and at least from what is suggested, the ex-husband's family seems to have average income just that Kana was burning through all of it quickly.
@@miragebangbravern sure, but if the narrative is that the family was somehow left in financial shambles, a gucci bag doesnt really seem like a reasonable purchase in any capacity, leading me to believe that they were not in financial shambles. which obviously makes a difference when looking at how morally reprehensible her taking money from them was. like, in one scenario, regardless of what motivated her to take the money, she leaves a broke family behind that likely had nothing to do with w/e she used that money for, in the other scenario she took money from them, but they were still able to support themselves financially.
Although I agree with you that this a case of societal failure, there is absolutely no justifiable reason to burn her own baby and cheat and steal and she must be held liable for all her actions. Her abusers should also be held liable for their actions as well.
@@vollstaendingennamen Well it also depends on when the Gucci bag was bought. Could have been bought years before this happened. In that case, financial situation and stability changes with time.
Still haven't got an answer on what "stay away from people like this" means. From people who were bullied or from overweight girls and the ones who were SA'd in childhood?
I would just like to ask you not to label every thief a "kleptomaniac". Kleptomania is a real mental illness and while kanma does frequently steal, there are no other indicators that she suffers from kleptomania. The fact that she only steals valuables is actually an indication that she is NOT a kleptomaniac. People with kleptomania decide to steal because of oppertunity and not value- from chapstick to pearls- and typically other triggers needs to be present (like anxiety, hunger, or even needing a person nearby to add thrill). Kleptomaniacs arent bad people, theyre dealing with the a survival instinct (that probably helped some of our ancestors survive) that is no longer acceptable in civilized society. Please resist the urge combine the reputations of these groups ❤️
I honestly do not think that her problem is really so much about resisting "urges", even though impulsivity is something very common in disorders such as borderline personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder, bipolar disorder, and sometimes in dissociative disorders too. BPD, ASPD and dissociative disorders are very much tied up to exposure to important, reoccurring trauma. Maladaptive patterns do form in response to that exposure, sometimes to the point of being harmful. While her case is more spectacular as it went extremely wrong right away, it is also very visible that even though she displayed signs of distress that could have been handled at a younger age, that just didn’t happen. Also, Japan has one of the most backwards legislation regarding protection of children from sexual assault, prostitution, and pornography, with a huge tolerance and normalization of it, which constitutes an awful terrain for constant victimization and revictimization. This, paired with notorious disdain towards psychiatry and a fatalistic mentality, is just set to let people like Ms. Asanuma to psychically rot and fester. Most victims in distress would tend to commit suicide or hurt themselves, but sometimes they will derive this on other people. And mind you, I’m writing this message as someone who has been victimized by a person who did suffer from child trafficking. He eventually grew into being violent and horrible and ultimately committed suicide. I’m by no means excusing what he did, but unfortunately that shit usually happens for a reason. By no means also all victims do evolve into offenders, however not seeing that being victimized in the first place really is a massive factor towards it is a form of blindness that society likes to have. It is easier to deem people as being evil and helpless than to have to review the very fundamentals of our society, acknowledging its dysfunction and the fact that violence and rape sits right in the middle of it. Statistics on children sexual assault and domestic violence are absolutely insane, however societies (and not just Japanese, but also in the Western world) tend to act as if it were inexistant, or very rare. We like to see children as being almost sanctified, but the way we do behave towards them is actually very different. So many people engage into seeing children as "bad", "twisted", "mischievous" in order to legitimize abuse, while also turning a blind eye for questionable situations when witnessing child abuse for fear of meddling into the parents or caretakers’ affairs, as they do hold power over children. Again, it is easier to depict a messy kid as being bad instead of really investigating what is going on with the said kid and eventually to take action. In the case of my ex, rest in peace, what also emerges is that there were many opportunities in which authorities could actually have done something for him before he turned into what he was set to became. He did receive no help or even attention, and left to his own devices, started to get onto that parasitic lifestyle in which so many of offenders do engage. I do believe it is avoidable, but it takes a lot of work and it takes a lot of political and social will to create the structures capable of doing that. Another point of criticism that I have with most human societies, this is shared by Japan and the Western world alike, it’s how much weight sexism and romance fantasies do have in these cases. It does worsen attachement issues for both men and women-men feeling like they have to fill impossible roles and have professional success while displaying no angst and no vulnerability, women having the sense that they should be cared for, or owned by, men, who in turn think that women should care for them. In terms of dynamics, it is by far more subtle and complex than "men bad women good", it’s a type of hierarchical structure that plays everyone against everyone and really doesn’t benefit neither women and men in terms of mental health and peace. It seems that in Japan, since the social destructuration and personal isolation has been growing since a long time on the backdrop of a collectivist society, this effect is even more detrimental since people are being raised in such a hostile environment and lack of proper attachment.
This is my first time on this channel and I have to say, while the case is very interesting yet infuriating to listen to, I was instantly relaxed when the sponsor segment came up. Helen has such soft and soothing voice I couldn't bear to skip that segment!
The first few minutes just seemed like the thing they call 'chunibyu' in Japan, so I was thinking that ain't that bad , but it escalated pretty quick didn't it...
Going through certain traumas doesn’t give you the right to traumatize anyone else , there’s a lot of us who went through hell growing up and we still didn’t turn out evil or wicked
Not the idiotic people in the comments expecting an abused child to grow up fucking Cinderella. Why do you people think we have branded abuse as wrong? Because It can destroy a person to the point of no return like it did with this woman. But lets ignore that and demonize her while at the same time allowing her abusers to continue to live their best lives...
While I believe that people should have self-confidence no matter what they look like, it is also not good to have too much of it. Learn your place and more over, do your best to be a decent person.
This case is so disturbing to me as it reminded me very acutely of my own mother. As someone who grew up in a similar situation it's terrible for all parties involved. I hope the daughter is able to move on and won't have to carry the burden of her mother's sins
That only makes her delusions of grandeur far more comedic. Kanna is a textbook example of a narcissistic sociopath. Namely, one who convinced herself that she CAN NOT be this mentally and physically unattractive girl, but this Kaguya-esque "man-magnet", all to soothe her fragile ego.
she probably was mentally ill, but her fault is that she never went to undergo therapy whether it's support groups or psychologists or psychiatrists ( support groups being a free option if she has a money problem )
It wasn't just body shaming and "bullying" people systematically used her for years. Long before her prefrontal cortex was developed. Then people act shocked when traumatized individuals who receive no medical help have altered brain chemistry and actions. If anyone wants to avoid horrific tragedies like these don't perpetuate pain to begin with and always call out actions of harm as soon as possible.
I'm heavily pro-choice and pro-women's rights worldwide, so there is an amount of possibilities that could've happened in her situation in addition to her upbringing, her habits, and personality: From here on, the yen will be translated 100 yen = $1 A) her bf didn't want the abortion; abortions in JPN need the consent of the pregnant person and the partner to get it B) she didn't have the money for it; getting an abortion can be costly in Japan (up to $2,000 depending on the term stage of the pregnancy) C) she never noticed her pregnancy until too late, OR didn't care about it. They could've had drunk s**. Her BF could've pressured her into it. 🤷♀️ D) giving away the baby up entirely after birth in JPN means having to travel to one or two locations in the country, I think one is super far in Kyushu? (in which case, they probably have no transportation / driving skills anyway) E+ (extra point, extra info): JPN doesn't really have affordable or accessible services for women when it comes to birth control. Getting a birth pill in JPN requires a) consultation (like $100) + monthly pay for ONE!!! birth control pill a MONTH (3000 yen to 7000 yen a month (like $30 - 70)) --> you can't get the pill at a store like you can in the US I think by how this couple had absolutely no money, I can conclude that they did this because: A) lack of or no money B) no basic contraception (c0ndoms); being dumb during s** C) reluctance of going to a hospital (out of fear of being found out by her family, having no permanent residence, etc . . . ) D) late noticing on their part; ignorance of her symptoms Also, 150,000 yen in Japan is like $1,500, so she didn't have much money at all, and probably spent most of the money already anyway with her bf. It sucks of what happened in the end as it could've been prevented, but her life and her bf's life are their lives. They got the end consequences of their actions or lack of, so 🤷♀️ Also, she obviously should've never had her first daughter, but once she got pregnant, her ex-husband was probably excited for it, happy about it, and could never imagine to terminate the pregnancy :/ (as mentioned, an abortion needs TWO ppl's consent)
Mate, she was a compulsive spender and known malignant narcissist who only cared about being the centre of attention. She lacked the impulse control and mental integrity to go down the route of safe abortion even if she COULD afford it.
A bit of feedback here, please take it as well intended, as some things may come across differently to international viewers than you may have intended. I assume the way you phrased things is normal and natural in Japan, but remarks like "I think most viewers can agree she is not the most attractive person" and such are very off-putting from European perspective. It would be better to phrase it that "she does not fall into the Japanese canons of beauty" or something along these lines. Just try to phrase it in a more polite, less toxic way, and also less subjective and assumptive, try to make them more objective, fact based. You don't need to stress how much YOU think she's ugly and also suggest the viewers that they should, too. It's enough to state "she does not fit the conventional beauty standards in Japan" or something like that, and it does not need to be repeated over and over again, cause it's just unnecessarily cruel and gives a bit of a creepy vibe as if you were stuck on the stage of being mentally an immature teen being unable to get over that someone could possibly want to be intimate with her when you think she's unattractive. I do not say that this is actually the case with you, as I said it's probably a cultural bias that tactfulness is perceived differently across cultures, but I just wanted to make you aware of this, so in the future you could keep this in mind when writing scripts.
Multiple times I thought that we have reached a reasonable conclusion to the video, only to realize the video has several more minutes left and this woman keeps doing more unhinged stuff
Japanese school is like beauty handsome contest? While school at my place is like prison You get bullied if you don't want to fight I am done with the daily punishment after win or lose fight Get punished more when i stop fighting
@Asianalysis excellent essay into the case and also your commentary on it. When I was doing youth work back in the late 90s/early 2000s I did a lot of research into everything that has been discussed in your video. One of the most important take away from that study was that a nation if know by the youth and it's mental health. You can see where a country is heading by the behaviour of it's youth and what they are dealing with. Turning a blind eye and ignoring their situation is a sure fire way to bring your nations future to a terrible end. We can easily see that with this current Gen Y. I don't hold this generations despair, over intolerance and mental health on them but, partly on the overbearing and sometimes uncaring previous generation. Youth, when eventually become they become adults, forget what being young was like. They ignore the stresses, needs and emotions of being young. That always leads them disregard the same thing they longed for during their youth. This is what leads us as adults to treat young people as throw away 'things' and regard their pain and stresses as just minor things, when if we were to look back would see them as digestating end of the world situations to us when we were their age. So, the best thing we can learn from this video, is that we need to be more caring and more aware for the pain and mental health of others. We can try a little harder to be someone who can try to understand, but still be firm when we see bad behaviour, as we can see where bad behaviour or not caring can lead someone to as shown in this terrible ordeal leading a child's untimely passing. Sorry for this long post. I look forward to watching more of your video essays.
Again, with sociopaths, you CAN NOT do anything other than ignore them, lest they abuse your trust and empathy, which always leads to misery and especially death. I've seen enough examples on an INTERNATIONAL scale, undiscriminating of class, race, nationality and creed, to conclude that lost causes EXIST and are more numerous than I can estimate with help. Care and compassion DID NOT change Kanna, it only emboldened her to abuse and defraud more people. The reality of the matter is that love and care only lead to more abuse sent from the so-called "victim" of the narrative onto the real victims of the incidents they eventually bring onto the world. Cynical as it is, the Truth cares very little about hope and heroes. As for "trying a little harder", I do not subscribe to this naive notion. To take a page from the 36 Strategems, specifically the final, 36th Strategem, walking away is far better in the long run than exhausting all options.
Unpopular opinion.. she is pretty with makeup. It is not that she is "ugly" that she is being a joke at school. Her confidence gone wrong when she is proud for dating older man and being confessed by bad boys from school 😢😢😢
I truly hope your nation finds solutions to these problems, either through government programs or charitable acts, because Nippon, is known world wide as an nation of respectful people, plus less crime than anywhere else in the world. Well done with your reporting, I had heard of this lady a long time ago, but completely forgot about the case; I heard how she manipulated men, but I never heard the baby on the beach thing; that is next level unforgivable in any nation.
Hmmmm i like that the presenter seems to have really researched their sources, but to jump to the conclusion about the relationship between father and daughter simply by a single tweet (which could easily be explained by teen angst) and a statement from a nosy neighbor is a bit much. I also think that the analysis the she is a kleptomaniac is wrong (just my opinion). I think its closer to extreme narcissistic disorder, its not that she couldnt help her self from stealing, lying or even burning her child. its more of she just didnt care and just did what she wanted, believing that she will never be in trouble because shes either entitled to it or that shes special and they would let her off. I think this also explains why at 1st she was posting about her 2nd pregnancy and she was taking care of it because it was novel for her(i.e "i'm more special now since im pregnant"). It wasnt that she was taking care of the baby, she was taking care of herself and the baby was just secondary, more of an accessory to her. But i think that the moment the baby came and it stopped becoming a part of her and the reality of motherhood set in and it became a hassle for her so she had to get rid of it. Anyways i still liked the content since you dont really get a lot of crime vlogs coming from japan thats not mistranlated into english.
i'm a bit confused at the part in the beginning at 1:14 where you described her as "not the most visually attractive individual"? although i understand that her classmates and strangers on the internet held that opinion, so it's good to know, i just don't see what echoing it adds to the conversation. not trying to hate or sympathize with this woman, just confused. especially since she seems to have been a child when most of this name calling occurred. otherwise a really good, concise video. tragic how many people were permanently traumatized in the crossfire of an individual who should've had some sort of mental health intervention from an early age. i hope her exhusband and daughter find happiness
Why do I feel like when the relationship broke down the baby became disposable. I did watch a doc about ghost babies in Korea. I think from the channel KDOC. Babies who are unalived by their parents and because they never got registered we don't they're gone till remains are found. But one couple kept the unalived baby in their kitchen freezer. Yes same freezer they'd put a person would put their frozen peas in and they lived in an apartment. The had maybe 2 or 3 others kids already. The husband, allegedly abusive said he didn't know about the baby or the baby in the freezer. How?
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Kinda feel bad for the ex husband. He dropped out of school just to marry her because he loved her deeply but when she cheated on him he still was kind enough to give her a bit of money.
That's what Cluster-Bs do to you. They ruin your life. They also ruin the lives of others who share the distinct misfortune of being within the same hemisphere as the person with a Cluster-B personality disorder.
absolutely tragic.
He is a good person who grew up in a good family, he deserved better
SIMP
But hey, its what we call "being decent human being" & get exploited
The pro & cons of being "normal"
@@somechinesedude5466 Most normal ppl already ditch her on the street when she cheated
Let us recognize and respect her ex-husband who put in the work into being a father after she flaked out and betrayed her family.
her ex should hire yakuza
It's not just the people who harmed her, it's her own character as well. She killed a baby. People who were abused and bullied can also grow up to be good people. It depends on the character.
Ok best to not be ahole to anyone.
She likely has been sexually abused by her father or relatives as kid and formed the excuse of having a "magnetic personality" as a way to cope. Saw she never was reprehended for doing things and just didn't form the impulse control of typical adults. There were thousands way this could go better. From her sexual abuser getting caught, to state offering psychological therapy to these people.
@@ArakishiTokugawa No hate or offense to the people of Japan either but their way of thinking of "these are kids who were like this from the beginning, there's no helping them" needs to be stopped as well. If Moka never got help and Saori Okada was also one of those people who thought like that, then Moka would've most likely ended up in Kanna's situation as well
Biologically, people's brains are wired to be a certain way, but studies show that life experience, environment and other components have a bigger weight when it comes to a person's characteristics. Most people that get bullied go through it during their childhood, one of the most important development stages for humans psychologically so YES everything that happens during childhood will have an impact on you when you grow up.
Even if some bully victims grow up to be good people, they still grow to develop other issues that limit them from actually living a good and plentyful life.
Schools need to take bullying more seriously, and show better forms of support for their students.
Yep there’s people who have been through more an would never do such.
There are plenty of people who have been through horrible things and not gone on to be murderers. Trauma is not an excuse. Everyone is responsible for their own actions.
Agreed. Ted Bundy was abused by most of his women figures as a child, and what possibly birthed his sinister nature and crimes, but his crimes was still unforgivable
Bad take. Everyone hasn't been in the same horrible shit. You cannot excuse murder of course, but there's still a root for this problem. People don't just born as murderers.
@@akaRyuka Trauma does not excuse crime.
A murder, regardless of the perpetrator's trauma, is still a murder.
Off to prison.
Cry more
Expect more chaos
Keep coping thinking people will change
@@lilacghoste8366 People only change when they want to. If not then oops
Mental health needs to be taken more seriously
Nah brother, she's just evil
@@entezami777 I agree with you many people get bullied and sexually assaulted but they don't go on killing people having a bad past doesn't give you a pass to kill someone innocent not only she killed a kid she also never cared about the only person who actually cared about her her husband loved her enough to support her good thing her first daughter was with her husband and her parents who knows what would have happened her first daughter would have been one of the victims along with her new born baby sibling
No Let us suffer
Parents really need to be responsible for their children or someone else will discipline them for them.
People such as Kanna Asanuma ARE THE REASON why we DO NOT take mental health seriously. I've said this basic fact of life time and time again, for YEARS, nearly a full decade and a half of my young, 20-something-year-old life dealing with mentally ill people at my school, my college and in my own family. It's best to take the 36th Strategem and leave them to the dogs at this stage. They can not be allowed to leech compassion and empathy from the naive, the deluded and the gullible. If so, then it is the loss of the defrauded, fools and their money as they say.
Kanna has mental issues & deep insecurieties together with being taken advantage of, which caused her to be twisted. This is the type of stuff one whos been SA'd from childhood has.
Victim of SA aren't baby burning monsters. Mental illness, being bullied, being taken advantages of, none of those excuse her from the fact that she BURNED her baby.
Regardless she is trash individual. There is no excuse for killing her own baby.
Add to that a country that's 123rd in the gender equality ranking, where female birth control demands monthly doctors visits, the possibility of her ever getting help were slim to none.
@@Felladin Well how many women is this 123rd in the gender equality ranking country has : Cheated on her ex-husband multiple times, Stole from them multiple times, Scam multiple people using her daughter she didn't care for, Owes multiple host bars a boatload of money then running away. Lastly leaving her baby at a beach, BURNED.
How many victim of inequality in Japan end up like Kanna?
@@Felladin I agree with your overall perspective, however I wanted to clarify this outdated information. Now you can get birth control that lasts you for months in a single trip. However you do need to have a consultation on healthy and proper use first before you can purchase them.
Yeah... No. I don't care how tragic your story is, I refuse to give a baby burner even an atom of sympathy. I've met some incredible people who've gone through exponentially worse.
Why people like you make competition of other's people's cases and dismiss the fact someone's mentality,circumstances state is different? Then can I say, there are people who has problem worse than you but they never make your story as misery competition?
@@angelsub9184 How funny.
I don't know what you want from me, I'm just stating the facts. I get the world can be cruel, but that gives you no reason to take it out on innocent bystanders, especially in such horrific manners. Bad childhoods can only excuse so much before you cross the path of no return.
@@Noxis07 and funny, I am just stating the facts too, you know.
@@Noxis07 How funny and I am just stating the facts too, you know.
@@angelsub9184 why can't we dismiss it? Either grow up and stop being a lil bitch taking it out on others because you're too weak or you could just not. Your choice.
All im gonna say is no little girl makes a consentual decision to get involved in sex work, so there is obviously something very wrong from the start.
Trauma and past experiences can be an explanation for a bad person, it is however NOT an excuse. This woman is deplorable.
Her husband's family is practically forged in the fires of patience and forgiveness for how much they put up with Kanna
I don’t think Kanna cared about the child, to go from that to burning a baby alive is extremely cruel. If she really didnt want the baby anymore she would have left it somewhere where someone could take it. No, she had no intention of taking care of the child. Shes the type who likes putting up appearances, she liked the sympathy being pregnant gave her. It probably gave her some protection from some people or allowed her to scam more people. Shes a vile person through and through that only cares about herself. Probably also an extreme narcissist, or possibly even a sociopath in addition to being a kleptomaniac.
TikTok seems like a universal vector for the worst behaviour imaginable. Doesn’t matter what language, culture, religion etc.
The amount of “TikTokkers” that do some dance after committing the worst crimes or planning a crime is insane. It *is* the modern dancing-plague.
Hate to be that person but that’s not how the original “dance plague” really worked. No one commutes assault or murder…
You act like it’s TikTok making these people 😂 are you like 40? No legit people are just like that ,
There have always been terrible people. It just seems like there are “more” nowadays because you see so many people online that you’d never in a million year meet or get to know face to face. It’s not like TikTok is possessing these people lol
Im praying for the ban 🙏
The largest social media app for multiple years in a row would have a larger amount of stuff happening. But also due to the sheer size of user base, it’s probably normal or below the average per capita.
Thought “she was eating too much” really dude? 😂
Body shaming is pretty real in japan lol
She probably is, but that’s no excuse to say it out loud
@@rajanicn9269 Unfortunately body shaming is rampantly normal in Japan. Some female Japanese UA-camrs and J-Tik-Tokers mentioned they didn't realize how bad it was, until they visited the West and got a different perspective.
@@rajanicn9269 not only in japan its all asians country if you are fat/ungly/gay/etc they going to tell in your face...
@@bishop51807 Unfortunately? They live significantly longer than the west. It's unfortunate that the west pushes fat acceptance. Obviously one of these two approaches are better for the general population. I'd rather push healthy lifestyles on people than avoid hurting feelings of people who are going to live miserable lives and die young.
Ex husband deserves so much better...
If I where her ex-husband family. She would be in jail right away when that 500,000 yen credit card thing happened.
People really Need to stop making excuses for Dysfunctional/ evil Women an Good looking Men. Yes how one grows up can have an affect on them later on but that’s still no excuse for murder an destroying everyone else’s life you contact
Fr, beautiful criminals have people excusing their actions and insisting on sympathy.
If you're actually kind and harmless, but ugly, you'll get persecuted without doing anything.
Therapy. Excuses are not the same as trying to understand *why* someone does evil things.
I can't believe people are actually trying to protect her from what she did It was horrible I can't believe that an innocent child was killed and burned right after he/she was born if her first daughter wasn't taken care of by her parents when she was running place to place with her new boyfriend who knows what would have happened to her first daughter she could have been one of the victim of her horrible mother
People need to understand that saying she might had mental illness or was SA'D is not an excuse but an explanation for her behaviour
It’s an insult to people who were SAed to say this is why she did this. My dad was SAed as a child, he was the best dad. I don’t even get it. Especially since these kinds of things are apparently common in Japan, yet it’s obviously not common to do what this psycho did…
This young lady is a sociopath. I mean there are young people who make dumb, near sighted decisions all the time, but this is on another level. The ex-husbands parents needed to kick her out when divorce proceedings were filed.
Reminds me of the Japanese movie "Mother"
The way she took advantage of everyone in her life really breaks my heart
I was thinking the same thing. What was more chilling was that the son was under her control and like literally killed for her. He just so desperately wanted her love and attention no matter the consequences. But it begs to question; did he turn out to be a sociopath like his mother?
I have been exposed to way worst bullying than she faced (every single school day, no rest, constant harrassement) and it only stopped when I was 17yo.
There is no excuses to do things like she did. Your backstory doesnt allow you for crimes.
wow you're really trying to turn this into a competition??
@@Slayyyaphine That's... not what he was saying at all, but way to completely miss the point and make yourself look dumb I guess
As a girl who was bullied and sexually assaulted in middle school, I didn't go on to do the things she did. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't have made a horrible scar on her psyche, since she's not me or you. That said, that's no excuse for what she did. We can just see it as one part of a bigger whole.
For me, my experience is one part of a bigger whole. I can't open myself to anyone irl. The thought terrifies me to this day, because when I sought for help, my parents called me a liar and laughed at me, saying I wanted attention. I haven't hurt anyone. I've never broken the law. I will always support others in bad situations, but I can't offer myself to anyone, making my experience back then as a part of a whole.
And you still carry your situation with you, as one part of your whole, and it defines traits in you. It doesn't mean it's responsible for anything wrong that you do to others, but it's still there. It still is a part of the puzzle that is you.
Agreed
@@nachgeben thank you for sharing, I wish you the best
is no one reacting to "compensated dating" with people in her age bracket being 12-15?? I have heard this being a huge issue in Japan but no one talks about it.
This is just an observation from a non-Japanese person: In regards of the "Tokyoko Kids" I think generalizing these kids and associating them with this Kanna individual is maybe not a good way to think of them. Probably, the majority of the toyoko kids can be helped. Kanna, more than likely has a personality disorder such as "antisocial personality disorder". She tics off a lot of the criteria for being a "Sociopath", the lying, stealing, identity theft, ect... I would wager to say that most of the toyoko kids are normal kids who come from abusive or unstable homes, and can be helped to become good members of society.
I live in the city next to Numazu. I had just gave birth to my daughter when this story broke. Hearing it broke my heart.
Sometime kindness is not the permanent solution
What they did is not being kind, that is being nice. You can be kind without being nice and in this case, they needed to show kindness without letting her off the hook. For her, well, we all know how weak minded she was or is
@@MonkeyDToniProductionsthis was really well said
This girl actually went to my school omfg. Our school already had a bad reputation (due to the amount of delinquent people) and THIS happens..
Any stories to share?
What??? Diligent people is not a bad thing. I think you’re using the wrong words. Diligence is a positive trait, not negative.
@@FransceneJK98he probably meant Delinquent people.
Someone can be diligent at delinquency. I've seen it. That boy had *focus*
@@FransceneJK98 sry English is not my first language
Teenagers and young adults don't end up this way simply because "they're just delinquents", that's just an easy way for people to not think too much on the issue. I believe that all of this is a result on Kanna's home life and daily social interactions. I'm going off assumption that she was abused or neglected in some way by her family when she was young due to her being associated with papakatsu's and she wouldn't have abandoned nor burn her own children. She has also been bullied by boy's playing with her feelings and being terrible to her which is all unexcusable, which led to her being this way. But that also doesn't excuse her own behavior, she has the choice to not steal, cheat, and run away fromm her problems regardless of that "urge". She knows what she's doing, if she didn't then it wouldn't have escalated so quickly. Her ex-husband and his family did continue to enable her behavior for allowing her to stay at their home despite her nearly financially ruining their lives by stealing and racking debt under their names. People around her abused her and enabled her bad behavior, and the "It can't be helped" phrase really came true to her being someone who literally cannot be helped unless something tragic happens to her (and even then for how many henious acts she's commited, who knows if that'd really impact her to the point of change?). Though i don't know too much about Mako mentioned at the end of the video, she ran away from her abusive father in search for something better in life. That could mean that Mako knew what was good and bad and she chose to try to save herself unlike Kanna who remained delusional. Mako had a terrible home life but maybe had decent social life (whether online or irl) to get herself out of the situation and Kanna didn't. To me the solution is to raise kids better by families being their childrens support system who actually care for them and don't condone/tolerate destructive behaviors. Even if their family is their biological one and is a found family (like a community or friend group), this is what should be done.
What I am about to say is not for her but for the whole "bad kids had traumatized childhood thing"
that is 🐄💩that many in fact "therapist" take advantage of that and try to help them avoid accountability but at the same time to victimize them in the eyes of the world in order to look like they did a great job so they can attract more costumers (and i managed to fish several therapist into admitting that in private conversations). Obviously there are exceptions to the rule but the majority of bullies, abusive or degenerate people is the exact opposite reasons, they were raised spoiled and entitled but when the shit hits the fan or they get find out or someone fights back they then proceed to play the victims and give and even fabricate sob stories to get pity and get away with it.
Not only you can search it in more depth if you are really interested (can't share links, every time I do YT takes my comment down) in fact cause over the years more and more of these kind of cases proved down the road that the so called "victims of rough childhood" had a hell of a lot of good childhood
I also have seen it many times in my line of work (Private security services) with many people do all that and even going above and beyond to falsify evidence to avoid the consequences of their actions.
So she might not have been abused at all, in fact quite the opposite, HOWEVER with that said I don't know her, I have no way of knowing her past for sure so since I am not sure and i don't want to make baseless accusations I'll rest my case in this one but that kind of thinking is enabling bad people not only to continued doing bad, but even grow even worse since they avoid the consequences of their actions.
@@Aki-kh2qe-StreetKidZZZ Fr entitled people just wanna have excuses for their behavior
I believe that a balance between your comment and the reply could either be the result. I had a cousin who was extremely spoiled but her home life was TOXIC…she had no balance so throughout her entire life she has made terrible life choices and odd behavior. The tragedy is the result of the baby ending up suffering from her twisted immoral behavior. I will now pray for this cousin…she once left her two toddlers with me for four days and not even compensating me. Thank GOD for her mother who practically raised her two children. 🤍🙏🏽
It's absolutely true that cause-and-effect creates delinquent children. Some teenagers also choose terrible decisions because humans make terrible decisions and it's that simple.
How many well-loved and well-liked middle-class "regular" dudes start acting like hoodrats because they think it's cool? THOUSANDS. I saw many of those at college/uni. They had no reason except their freedom of choice and it feels good.
Their fathers and mothers loved them, but getting laid, being a "badboy" and being intoxicated surrounded by woman giving them attention makes them feel good.
Not every single bad person can say "it was my upbringing". What upbringing would cause you to give birth to a child and BURN IT ALIVE IN PUBLIC? For God's sake... there is a balance. Some people are made that way, some choose to be that way, and most are a mixture of the two.
I think that is often true but not always. My older brother for example. We had the same family, same parents. I am not aware of any abuse that he suffered (maybe something happened that I don't know about), and we had really good and nice parents. Me and my other siblings all turned out ok, but he has always had impulse issues and no regard for other people. We never knew why. My parents tried everything to help him including therapy, medication, rehab, etc. but he continues to make awful choices and hurt people. We have always said it almost seems like he has something wrong with his brain because he had a good, fairly healthy childhood but continues to act this way.
Lots of people are bullied in high school. Somehow they don't end up being sociopathic killers.
Dude, that is not kleptomania!
When I was at a kid's clinic and my parents were talking to the physicians about my brother I often got to play on the playground with all the kids from the psych ward, among others. One of the girls there had kleptomania, but she never stole anything big or important. You could bet she'd take small toys, sparkly stones and pens if they were lying around without even consciously thinking about it, but if you asked her whether she had 'found' something you were missing she always returned it. Usually she couldn’t even tell why she put it in her pocket.
She grabbed forks and candy bars and name tags. She never planned her little thefts or went for people's valuables like wallets on purpose, and if she did pick up something valuable it was more of a coincidence (I know she picked up a wedding ring off the window sill in the lady's toilet once, but later turned it in to the nurse, which is really just a case of lost and found).
She couldn’t be left alone in a store though since she'd just start putting whatever she took a liking to into her pocket.
Someone can be a horrible person and you can still have sympathy for the person they SHOULD'VE been. No one turns out like she did for no reason. She likely has far more horrific trauma than we realize for her brain to be so warped
Trauma is not excuse to commit crimes. Gimme a break. Some people are just psychos. Period
@@FransceneJK98That's why we have sympathy for who she SHOULD have been, not who she is. I have sympathy for the abused and misled child. I do not have sympathy for the criminal asshole that child chose to become.
Genetics exist yall. You know there are people millions of people who have gone through way worse that would never do this right? It’s an illogical explanation.
@@ragtimegalshow many millions compared to those who do turn out bad though.
@@FransceneJK98psychology is complex thing. What people label as psycho acts, psychologist try to understand where the root of behavior come from to gain insight. Any shortcut of judgement made us prevent to see whole picture.
It is unfortunate that to see collectivist countries such as Japan under capitalism, leaving troubled young people on the road, due to the absence of proper government resources to help the people and prevent society from decaying.
This isn't an ideological issue, this is an individual example of a personality disorder. Josh Slocum has excellent interviews where he details how personality disorders function. Keep in mind that they are DISORDERS OF PERSONAILTY! They can NOT be fixed or saved. You can only leave them for the dogs.
@DR3ADER1 capitalism isn't an ideology, it's an economic system favoured by different ideologies.
I was talking about the phenomenon, of young people living on the street and in otherwise unstable situations, not receiving the social services, such as housing, mental health, and other community services, they would need to get on the wrong path.
This girl obviously was more disturbed than others, but she could have gotten more help too.
@DR3ADER1 that personality disorders can't be "fixed" to a degree that someone is able to positively participate in society, also is just false. Modern medicine offers various forms of therapy and medication that can help the majority of people with personality disorders, to not fall into distructive patterns of behavior.
@@mx338 Collectivism is an ideology. And this is not an issue with ideology. You are not reading the response properly.
@@mx338 Incorrect, Borderline Personality Disorder is part of the greater spectrum of Cluster-B Personality Disorders. In fact, most psychologists recommend that you AVOID people with Cluster-B Personalities on the spot. Not only are they unpredictable, but they also (and this is a consistent pattern with a lot of these individuals) do not view themselves as people with a problem, they think that they are normal people. They also love to control others to gain a significant level of narcissistic supply and fuel for their own cover/self-image.
It doesn't help that they prey on the goodwill of others as a tool to satisfy themselves and only themselves.
Furthermore, anyone who has to rely on deception and self-deception to function in the real world is by DEFINITION, the type of person who CAN NOT FUNCTION IN THE REAL WORLD.
Modern Medicine does not help them, treatments of any kind and category do not help them. Nothing helps them, because they do not think that they need to be helped, rather, they often think that YOU need help. They are destructive people and destructive people who consistently test and frequently break the limits of even well-adjusted, well-meaning people who do not discriminate or stigmatise others for the sake of it.
They may use victim narratives, however they are not victims, they are culprits. People who rarely act in good faith.
And if you still think that operating in the same Hemisphere with BPD patients and other Cluster-B personalities is a good idea, don't come crying to anyone about the weird and chaotic mess you end up in inevitably by interacting with people with broken social circles. Let it be known that BPD is at the very top of mental illnesses that are patently unfixable, and untreatable and cause the most amount of damage to those who have to deal with them not only on a day-to-day basis but also after they cut ties with them. The damage never stops with these people and they'll continue to be like this well into their 60s, 70s and 80s/90s.
Once again, it is a disorder of personality, not a standard learning disability or mental ailment that you can work with. They are unworkable people.
Her ex-husband, his family, and her 2 children (both the dead and alive one) are such tragic victims.
I have learned a good person would never make excuses for bad behavior. All those excuses is to portray a certain image of themselves.
This could all be prevented if mental health was not a tabu.
so her parents couldn't give a damn about her, never noticed their middle schooler daughter gets money out of nowhere from sleeping with old men, her classmates bullied her, teachers who surely saw and knew that chose to do nothing about it (they always do), and now we're acting surprised that she grew up traumatized and did awful things? "this couldn't be helped". yup, indeed. nobody could see it coming. just call her a "delinquent" and continue demonizing a victim and mental health issues, without seeing the reason. the predatory men who SA'd a child, the bullies in her school, the absent parents that praised her for early pregnancy are your ideal figures of society, probably.
No, they aren't, even the Japanese commenters mentioned in the video could see that, but it's not an excuse for burning a newborn baby alive. She may have had mental issues that went undiagnosed and were allowed to worsen. Normal people who are victimized grow up to be very sensitive to it as an adult. She continually demonstrated a pathological lack of sympathy despite help from people who tried to treat her well.
@@diemes5463 "normal people who are victimized" well, sorry to break it to you, but some people can't just be gigachads and overcome traumas on their own and be fluffy healthy sunshines, duh. trauma affects people differently, you can't speak for all of them. someone's personal experience isn't indicative of the norm.
i can't understand what's your point exactly? and where did i say that trauma and mental health issues are an excuse to a crime?
my guy not even once in the video said how f-d up all of these people who mistreated her were. CSA was mentioned like it's nothing out of the ordinary, ah, you know, perverts exist. sometimes they pay girls for... "compensated dating", yeah, it just happens, so moving on... kids "pranked" her in school for hihi haha purposes. this is fine, boys will be boys amirite. her parents were "living in a nightmare because of their daugher". so when she was underage she didn't need their help? sleeping for money since young age wasn't a nightmare? kids growing in loving families usually don't do that thinking it's normal and fun, fyi. it was her parents' responsibility to teach her that. but nvm they were good people, they "supported her even after pregnancy", such angels!
he's focusing only on kanna's crime, shifts viewers' attention away from the others' and downplays the severity of her traumatic childhood experiences, using phrases like "she believed herself to be attractive", "she tricked herself into thinking..", for god's sake, we're talking about a neglected and abused kid. of freaking course, she's most likely to not be "normal". and then he concludes that this "couldn't be helped". idk if he's tone deaf in this case or he intentionally overlooks the whole context and neglects to acknowledge the issues that led to this. is CSA not a crime and traumatic life-changing experience? bullying isn't traumatic at all? neglecting kids is normal? the reasons why she's messed up are literally there.
it's as if there's no other purpose of this video but to show yeah, there was such a heartless b--ch, let's just hate her. ofc there's no excuse for her crime, nobody says that. but would this happen if her parents gave a damn about their child? i doubt that. sorry, but her husband "treating her well" isn't gonna cure years of what she went through and what shaped her to become like this. also wouldn't hurt to teach stupid kids empathy and that bullying isn't good. some kids grow up strong despite it and some literally end their lives because of someone's "pranks".
the channel is called 'analysis' but i missed the analysis part, only that he's surprised that people tried to understand why she grew up like that and that he can't understand how she could've done that. too bad, some people actually want to use their brains instead of blindly hating someone they don't even know.
@@blind_aggressionShe still could have cared for the baby (and with care, I mean not killing the child when it is already alive). I get stealing or other stuff like sleeping around with men at an young age due to her issues but when an innocent child is killed? Doesn’t matter the background nor reason, that is still fucked up and punishment is deserved but I agree with you, everyone copes with their trauma differently. Some ways are healthy, some are not (although she is a special case of not healthy) and people need to be taught right from wrong without inflicting trauma and need to encourage people to be more willing to seek out good professional help. The people that traumatized her need punishment although I am still of the belief that she deserves more just because of the severity of the crime
@@MonkeyDToniProductions oh, really? Daaaamn. I didn't realize... I guess... I guess we don't need psychiatry anymore! Mentally unwell people can just get their shit together and... and not do things anymore! Das crazy. We're getting out of a psych ward with this one!
@@blind_aggression Read it again. I corrected it a few times
So like Takami just was fine with burning his infant daughter alive???? Was he arrested too?
Thank God it is really hard to get drugs in Japan
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That whole summary on 16:16 was so so so infuriating to listen to its actually scary how dysfunctional she is
Mf be 'like I can fix her"
her:
feel so bad for the ex-husband, he's a perfect husband figure also a legit sigma tho
@@Lucio14045 The ex-husband deserved better, he has such a good heart. Even after she cheated and stole he still gave her a roof over her head. I hate that some people exploit goodness like this.
Good men have this flaw that they feel like they can help her heal from her past and "save her" and be different then the men who hurt her, super hero syndrome, unfortunately this only ends up hurting them 😢. To those men, you can't change her bro. Just let her go..
The ex parent are saints
As a casual observer, I think that her very apparent undiagnosed psychopathy was a much bigger factor here, even more so than her alleged kleptomania.
I think that this issue was a much more serious problem. It is not normal to leave a baby to die in this manner. There have been cases of women abandoning their child, or to get rid of them out of desperation due to social norms, but to burn them alive? Very few people who are capable of feeling empathy for those around them would be able to carry out such an act so casually, especially to a helpless newborn baby, unless a person was physically threatened and coerced each and every step of the way under terror, or under threat of GRAVE harm, almost as a form of mental torture.
It is very clear that she wanted to get rid of the baby, and through the rush of ideas in her mind as to how to do it, there was nothing that stopped her when she landed on this SPECIFIC idea internally, and mentally through her thought process.
People like this need to be diagnosed from a very early age to receive therapy needed to mitigate their lifelong condition. This is a mental condition that CANNOT BE CURED.
Horrible things can happen in society if these people are not detected and diagnosed early on in life. The problem here is not just the person who committed these crimes, nor just the callous people that sexually abused this child when she was still so young, the problem, the greatest problem is with the society that refuses to fix these problems, and is unable to understand the long term cost in terms of danger, pain, suffering and sheer terror that refusing to invest in solving these problems in society can cause, when you look at the resources committed to social governance from a purely dollar-based perspective in the short term.
Even if you were thinking about the purely dollar-based amount of damage that not just Kanna, but so many others like her that were born in her generation had caused to society, there comes a point that when investing in preventative measures in society would've BEEN CHEAPER than the use of austerity and a smaller state in order to pursue a fiscal agenda.
This is the opportunity cost of following such an agenda. It is VERY clear that not enough money was invested in the society that this woman and many others like her grew up in to prevent these kinds of problems, or at least mitigate them. The goodwill of Japanese people, and the assumption that they will not commit any crimes, is not a substitute for a peaceful society. Nor is the use of heavy-handed punishments in order to punish those who have fallen through the cracks, if such people as this go undiagnosed.
What punishment will bring this poor child back to life? What punishment will allow for these debtors to be repaid ALL the money that they have now lost? What punishment is going to repair the emotional damage that Kanna's parents, her first husband and their parents now have to permanently live with and suffer under?
With the rise of increasing automation in our society, and the loss of jobs becoming more and more apparent, as well as demographic trends in advanced economies creating more and more worker shortages, most apparent in Korea, as well as famously Japan, the way we think about how our societies need to be managed to keep people safe, as well as the way that we think about the ways that our economies work is going to need to radically change to meet the challenges of society and social welfare today.
I hope that this poor child is in a better place today. I hope that Kanna's ex-husband and their parents, as well as Kanna's parents who are raising her first child, are able to recover both emotionally and financially. I have particular sympathy for her ex-husband, who had not only his entire life, but the lives of his parents utterly destroyed because of his choice of partner and his desire to a be a kind, thoughtful, caring and responsible human being, and all of this destroyed through NO fault of his own.
I hope that all honest people that were defrauded through this woman and her partner's actions will be able to recover financially.
Perhaps most of all, I sincerely hope that Kanna, and her partner, if they happen to avoid the death penalty, will one day be able to live with the weight and shame of the horrific crimes that they decided to commit in society.
This entire story was a failure on top of failure, on so many different levels. Society will not change until people have the compassion and the direct sense needed to make the repairs needed to keep people safe and happy, and away from the horrible dangers that a refusal to change society will cause, yet again, if these problems are not rectified, and that if people in power refuse to act.
I hope Japanese society, and the communities affected will be able to recover from the memory of this horrific incident, and all the ills that caused it, and I hope they are able to one day find and cultivate a lasting peace and justice in their society. #日本
One other takeaway from this case should be, there should be easier options for giving children up to adoption. In Japan except for Kumamoto prefecture, there's no easy options for giving up a child. If something like baby hatches was more widespread, the babies life would likely haven been saved.
Or maybe not have sociopaths raise children in the first place. Again, Kanna is a narcissistic sociopath with Cluster-B symptoms. She was never going to improve. Ever. Full stop.
This should be a reality all around the world. In some places, a mother can give up the baby for adoption even before giving birth, wich means that as soon as she gives birth, she will receive the support needed to give the child to adoption
i know a bit about watches, stealing her ex Father in law's rolex made my anxiety rise lol
Initially: What's so bad about this Kanna person?
A few minutes later: Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh........
This unfortunately is not an uncommon story or be the last like this
You have to be careful looking for a cause and effect for deep seated behaviors that lead to psychopathic, cruelty, or sadism in individuals.
Not every serial killer for example had a bad childhood or every person who had a bad childhood is going to end up a sadist.
Andrei Chikatilo for example when asked “did you have a bad childhood?” He answered roughly: “other than being poor, I had a normal childhood. There are many children as poor as me.” He went on to kill 300+.
Compulsion is not what drives her cruelty. It’s the difference between compulsion and impulse control. Compulsion implies she has no idea what she is doing is wrong. In fact she does but either chooses to ignore the impact of others because her needs and wants are greater or simply because she lacks empathy is unable to even understand. She also, being young has an undeveloped ability (or possibly atrophied ability) to fully recognize the consequences of her actions. That part of the brain can take up to age 25 to develop (usually late in males).
It’s not to say bullying and a poor or neglectful relationship with her father didn’t help.
I have not finished the video but without a cause of death on the baby (which are difficult to assess in children even without the incineration) she may not have murdered the child bit instead had a miscarriage or delivered stillborn.
Very fascinating content. 🤗 I would suggest to read John Douglas, books and textbooks are invaluable, who developed the FBI profiling training program and even appears in the film, was inspiration for Jodie foster’s boss, and was an advisor on the film “silence of the lambs”. You have to be careful looking for a cause and effect for deep seated behaviors that lead to psychopathic, cruelty, or sadism in individuals.
Not every serial killer for example had a bad childhood or every person who had a bad childhood is going to end up a sadist.
Andrei Chikatilo for example when asked “did you have a bad childhood?” He answered roughly: “other than being poor, I had a normal childhood. There are many children as poor as me.” He went on to kill 300+.
Compulsion is not what drives her cruelty. It’s the difference between compulsion and impulse control. Compulsion implies she has no idea what she is doing is wrong. In fact she does but either chooses to ignore the impact of others because her needs and wants are greater or simply because she lacks empathy is unable to even understand. She also, being young has an undeveloped ability (or possibly atrophied ability) to fully recognize the consequences of her actions. That part of the brain can take up to age 25 to develop (usually late in males).
It’s not to say bullying and a poor or neglectful relationship with her father didn’t help.
Very fascinating content. 🤗 I would suggest to read John Douglas, books and textbooks are invaluable, who developed the FBI profiling training program and even appears in the film, was inspiration for Jodie foster’s boss, and was an advisor on the film “silence of the lambs”.
The best thing we can do is, despite the negative environment that influences such behavior at such an early age, we should strive to give the next generation the most ideal environment they could possibly have to avoid irredeemable, grim futures and mental issues like this.
IN MY OPINION this isn’t a good analysis of Kanna Asanuma just based on the disregard and misinformation on childhood sexual trauma.
The UA-camr speaks on her past, claims to “understand” how this may have affected her psychological development but then proceeds to say he doesn’t understand how the Japanese UA-camrs can sympathise with her (I assume the Japanese public took this stance due to how childhoods such as the one kanna endured are typical and they can perhaps relate more than sheltered westerners).
She was being sexually assaulted as a FIRST GRADER, for those who don’t understand how important this information is: the prefrontal cortex begins development during that time in women and that’s the part of the brain that’s in charge of behaviour and critical thinking. To have been used by older men at such a young age definitely mutilated her brain making her unable to develop into a normal adult.
The whole narrative that she’s the person she is because of “kleptomania” and “she can’t resist sleeping with attractive men” because of this urge to possess is wrong. Kleptomania does not cause hyper sexuality. She’s a victim of child sexual abuse, which causes hyper-sexuality. Her seeking out sexual partners at host clubs, cheating multiple times and even when she was younger, the pride she had in claiming how “desirable” she was to classmates is symptomatic of this trauma.
Her then refusal to be maternal and the horrible crime she committed. To someone uneducated with female psychology, the easiest verdict to pass is ; she’s a horrible selfish person who is a cold blooded killer. Which again is wrong. She’s a trauma victim living in a country where mental health illness are not treated. Her doing what she did is not the work of a sane person. You and I wouldn’t even think of BURNING a child to death. She could’ve just abandoned it at a church or care home, even a public restroom, if her goal was to rid herself of the responsibilities of child care. But she chose the most extreme option. If you can’t fathom her actions then you can fathom how her mind isn’t normal. And that she is sick.
I found this video PERSONALLY too condemning. There wasn’t much understanding of how someone can go an do something like what she did , and strangely enough I feel like it focuses a lot more on the suffering of the men in her life rather than her. Which was odd. Especially since this video is about her. I wonder why the UA-camr chose to do this? Perhaps so we wouldn’t sympathise with her? At least that’s how it felt like to me, and reading just a few of these comments if that was his goal it worked.
There seems to be a strong superfical level of living in japan and some important issues are left unaddressed the song Unspoken words by Status Quo offers some reflection Dear Kanna
I honestly agree with you. This is not a mere kleptomania or hypersexuality.
Blah blah
I thought I was the only one could have thought this well I think no point saying that to half of them cause maybe they just not care for that because of something
One word: _Sociopath._
Could also be ASPD.
@@TheBadassTonberry That's still a sociopath. And once more, you can NOT help people with ASPD, they'll always try to find ways to fix YOU and present themselves as the victim.
Many people got bullied. But not all of them cheating their spouse, wasting money for hosts or even kill their babies. It's her personality.
I'm 15 minutes in and thought the video was going to the summary, and it turns out it's HALFWAY THERE. THIS WOMAN
Now the problem is marketing to these troubled teens
This story is incredible sad😢. I feel for her ex hubby, the daughter and the lil baby that died...😥.
Why blame the father for abuse without evidence? It’s just as likely that Kanna is suffering from antisocial personality disorder, judging from her narcissism and manipulative behavior. Impulsivity and lack of remorse are more common in sociopaths than abuse survivors.
Thank you ❤ and this is genetic, I have people in my family who have it, it is not because of abuse, THEY are the ones who abuse the rest of their family (including me). These comments make me sick
More than it "cannot be helped" it seems most people in her life just thought that she could not be helped (e.g. asked to change) and let her be.
All people in her life either bullied or ended up saying that she could not be helped changing, so she did not change. No one" controlled" whether she was going to school, the host club itself let her accumulate such a big debt probably knowing themselves she could not pay and so on.
They let her continue without paying instead of straight out not letting her in
The host club one was strange, how did they just let her use their services without paying?
Which is why they want to her parents' house for the money and lost debts. And why she was blacklisted from most Host Clubs in all of Osaka, one of the largest cities in Japan because she couldn't pay them back due to her compulsive spending. When you apply logic to these narratives, the whole "Kanna was a victim" diatribe falls apart quicker than a Honda NSX reaches 0-120km/h.
im halfway through, ~17:30 the ex husbands gucci bag? ngl, that does make me wonder how the financial situation of them actually was.
also, up to this point, everything sounds pretty much as if that girl was groomed and manipulated by multiple people, and from what it sounds like, likely with the threat of violence.
not trying to say the stuff she did was understandable, but it also feels like w/e situation she was in, is not a situation someone should be in; which makes it kind of hard for me to not feel like blaming her, rather than the society that allows for people to end up in situations like that.
Only God knows.. This case are pretty hazy
Even im not sure this video has covered the entire situation complete enough
I mean, you could still be average financial wise and get a Gucci bag and at least from what is suggested, the ex-husband's family seems to have average income just that Kana was burning through all of it quickly.
@@miragebangbravern sure, but if the narrative is that the family was somehow left in financial shambles, a gucci bag doesnt really seem like a reasonable purchase in any capacity, leading me to believe that they were not in financial shambles.
which obviously makes a difference when looking at how morally reprehensible her taking money from them was.
like, in one scenario, regardless of what motivated her to take the money, she leaves a broke family behind that likely had nothing to do with w/e she used that money for, in the other scenario she took money from them, but they were still able to support themselves financially.
Although I agree with you that this a case of societal failure, there is absolutely no justifiable reason to burn her own baby and cheat and steal and she must be held liable for all her actions. Her abusers should also be held liable for their actions as well.
@@vollstaendingennamen Well it also depends on when the Gucci bag was bought. Could have been bought years before this happened. In that case, financial situation and stability changes with time.
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Communal peace at the cost of its members societies are scary and dangerous despite looking all shiny and clean.
Still haven't got an answer on what "stay away from people like this" means. From people who were bullied or from overweight girls and the ones who were SA'd in childhood?
I would just like to ask you not to label every thief a "kleptomaniac". Kleptomania is a real mental illness and while kanma does frequently steal, there are no other indicators that she suffers from kleptomania. The fact that she only steals valuables is actually an indication that she is NOT a kleptomaniac. People with kleptomania decide to steal because of oppertunity and not value- from chapstick to pearls- and typically other triggers needs to be present (like anxiety, hunger, or even needing a person nearby to add thrill). Kleptomaniacs arent bad people, theyre dealing with the a survival instinct (that probably helped some of our ancestors survive) that is no longer acceptable in civilized society. Please resist the urge combine the reputations of these groups ❤️
I honestly do not think that her problem is really so much about resisting "urges", even though impulsivity is something very common in disorders such as borderline personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder, bipolar disorder, and sometimes in dissociative disorders too. BPD, ASPD and dissociative disorders are very much tied up to exposure to important, reoccurring trauma. Maladaptive patterns do form in response to that exposure, sometimes to the point of being harmful.
While her case is more spectacular as it went extremely wrong right away, it is also very visible that even though she displayed signs of distress that could have been handled at a younger age, that just didn’t happen. Also, Japan has one of the most backwards legislation regarding protection of children from sexual assault, prostitution, and pornography, with a huge tolerance and normalization of it, which constitutes an awful terrain for constant victimization and revictimization. This, paired with notorious disdain towards psychiatry and a fatalistic mentality, is just set to let people like Ms. Asanuma to psychically rot and fester. Most victims in distress would tend to commit suicide or hurt themselves, but sometimes they will derive this on other people.
And mind you, I’m writing this message as someone who has been victimized by a person who did suffer from child trafficking. He eventually grew into being violent and horrible and ultimately committed suicide. I’m by no means excusing what he did, but unfortunately that shit usually happens for a reason. By no means also all victims do evolve into offenders, however not seeing that being victimized in the first place really is a massive factor towards it is a form of blindness that society likes to have.
It is easier to deem people as being evil and helpless than to have to review the very fundamentals of our society, acknowledging its dysfunction and the fact that violence and rape sits right in the middle of it. Statistics on children sexual assault and domestic violence are absolutely insane, however societies (and not just Japanese, but also in the Western world) tend to act as if it were inexistant, or very rare. We like to see children as being almost sanctified, but the way we do behave towards them is actually very different. So many people engage into seeing children as "bad", "twisted", "mischievous" in order to legitimize abuse, while also turning a blind eye for questionable situations when witnessing child abuse for fear of meddling into the parents or caretakers’ affairs, as they do hold power over children. Again, it is easier to depict a messy kid as being bad instead of really investigating what is going on with the said kid and eventually to take action.
In the case of my ex, rest in peace, what also emerges is that there were many opportunities in which authorities could actually have done something for him before he turned into what he was set to became. He did receive no help or even attention, and left to his own devices, started to get onto that parasitic lifestyle in which so many of offenders do engage. I do believe it is avoidable, but it takes a lot of work and it takes a lot of political and social will to create the structures capable of doing that.
Another point of criticism that I have with most human societies, this is shared by Japan and the Western world alike, it’s how much weight sexism and romance fantasies do have in these cases. It does worsen attachement issues for both men and women-men feeling like they have to fill impossible roles and have professional success while displaying no angst and no vulnerability, women having the sense that they should be cared for, or owned by, men, who in turn think that women should care for them. In terms of dynamics, it is by far more subtle and complex than "men bad women good", it’s a type of hierarchical structure that plays everyone against everyone and really doesn’t benefit neither women and men in terms of mental health and peace. It seems that in Japan, since the social destructuration and personal isolation has been growing since a long time on the backdrop of a collectivist society, this effect is even more detrimental since people are being raised in such a hostile environment and lack of proper attachment.
Long story there. I do agree with the examples of abuse and disorders. They combined can cause people to behave differently, and act like that.
Im not really a good person nor a bad one but i cant help but really wonder how can an individual turn out like this
Bro if you like an average human person living their lives not bothering anyone, you're already a saint. People can be EVIL
This is my first time on this channel and I have to say, while the case is very interesting yet infuriating to listen to, I was instantly relaxed when the sponsor segment came up. Helen has such soft and soothing voice I couldn't bear to skip that segment!
she seems to have like addiction from male gaze and feeling rich by spending money while actually doing nothing in life to get rich. Poor exhusband
The first few minutes just seemed like the thing they call 'chunibyu' in Japan, so I was thinking that ain't that bad , but it escalated pretty quick didn't it...
the deceased baby and ex-husband are the actual victims here
100%
and another 2 man
and her ex family
Going through certain traumas doesn’t give you the right to traumatize anyone else , there’s a lot of us who went through hell growing up and we still didn’t turn out evil or wicked
Some people just can't be helped. Enough said. It's up to themselves on what they're gonna do with their life. This is the sad truth of modern society
Wow her 1st husband is such a chad, salute to him and hope he meets the right woman
Not the idiotic people in the comments expecting an abused child to grow up fucking Cinderella. Why do you people think we have branded abuse as wrong? Because It can destroy a person to the point of no return like it did with this woman. But lets ignore that and demonize her while at the same time allowing her abusers to continue to live their best lives...
While I believe that people should have self-confidence no matter what they look like, it is also not good to have too much of it. Learn your place and more over, do your best to be a decent person.
This case is so disturbing to me as it reminded me very acutely of my own mother. As someone who grew up in a similar situation it's terrible for all parties involved. I hope the daughter is able to move on and won't have to carry the burden of her mother's sins
"she's not the most visually attractive person" just doesn't sit right with me. Why not just leave that part out? :/
I agree
It's true and it's part of the story, why leave any part of it out?
it's part of the story and her past
I agree, plus, that's her photo as a child the UA-camr is judging. I don't mind if she's legal age, but to a child 💀💀💀
That only makes her delusions of grandeur far more comedic. Kanna is a textbook example of a narcissistic sociopath. Namely, one who convinced herself that she CAN NOT be this mentally and physically unattractive girl, but this Kaguya-esque "man-magnet", all to soothe her fragile ego.
she probably was mentally ill, but her fault is that she never went to undergo therapy whether it's support groups or psychologists or psychiatrists ( support groups being a free option if she has a money problem )
It wasn't just body shaming and "bullying" people systematically used her for years. Long before her prefrontal cortex was developed. Then people act shocked when traumatized individuals who receive no medical help have altered brain chemistry and actions. If anyone wants to avoid horrific tragedies like these don't perpetuate pain to begin with and always call out actions of harm as soon as possible.
this monster is such a disapointment to humanity
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You can make a movie based on the story
I'm heavily pro-choice and pro-women's rights worldwide, so there is an amount of possibilities that could've happened in her situation in addition to her upbringing, her habits, and personality:
From here on, the yen will be translated 100 yen = $1
A) her bf didn't want the abortion; abortions in JPN need the consent of the pregnant person and the partner to get it
B) she didn't have the money for it; getting an abortion can be costly in Japan (up to $2,000 depending on the term stage of the pregnancy)
C) she never noticed her pregnancy until too late, OR didn't care about it. They could've had drunk s**. Her BF could've pressured her into it. 🤷♀️
D) giving away the baby up entirely after birth in JPN means having to travel to one or two locations in the country, I think one is super far in Kyushu? (in which case, they probably have no transportation / driving skills anyway)
E+ (extra point, extra info): JPN doesn't really have affordable or accessible services for women when it comes to birth control. Getting a birth pill in JPN requires a) consultation (like $100) + monthly pay for ONE!!! birth control pill a MONTH (3000 yen to 7000 yen a month (like $30 - 70)) --> you can't get the pill at a store like you can in the US
I think by how this couple had absolutely no money, I can conclude that they did this because:
A) lack of or no money
B) no basic contraception (c0ndoms); being dumb during s**
C) reluctance of going to a hospital (out of fear of being found out by her family, having no permanent residence, etc . . . )
D) late noticing on their part; ignorance of her symptoms
Also, 150,000 yen in Japan is like $1,500, so she didn't have much money at all, and probably spent most of the money already anyway with her bf.
It sucks of what happened in the end as it could've been prevented, but her life and her bf's life are their lives. They got the end consequences of their actions or lack of, so 🤷♀️
Also, she obviously should've never had her first daughter, but once she got pregnant, her ex-husband was probably excited for it, happy about it, and could never imagine to terminate the pregnancy :/ (as mentioned, an abortion needs TWO ppl's consent)
her bf dropped out of high school and married her because 'she wanted to have a baby early'.
Mate, she was a compulsive spender and known malignant narcissist who only cared about being the centre of attention. She lacked the impulse control and mental integrity to go down the route of safe abortion even if she COULD afford it.
@@easterworshipper5579^ exactly. From what I’ve heard about her, she most likely was being irresponsible.
A bit of feedback here, please take it as well intended, as some things may come across differently to international viewers than you may have intended. I assume the way you phrased things is normal and natural in Japan, but remarks like "I think most viewers can agree she is not the most attractive person" and such are very off-putting from European perspective. It would be better to phrase it that "she does not fall into the Japanese canons of beauty" or something along these lines. Just try to phrase it in a more polite, less toxic way, and also less subjective and assumptive, try to make them more objective, fact based. You don't need to stress how much YOU think she's ugly and also suggest the viewers that they should, too. It's enough to state "she does not fit the conventional beauty standards in Japan" or something like that, and it does not need to be repeated over and over again, cause it's just unnecessarily cruel and gives a bit of a creepy vibe as if you were stuck on the stage of being mentally an immature teen being unable to get over that someone could possibly want to be intimate with her when you think she's unattractive. I do not say that this is actually the case with you, as I said it's probably a cultural bias that tactfulness is perceived differently across cultures, but I just wanted to make you aware of this, so in the future you could keep this in mind when writing scripts.
Multiple times I thought that we have reached a reasonable conclusion to the video, only to realize the video has several more minutes left and this woman keeps doing more unhinged stuff
These don't sound like urges to me. This sounds like an opportunist who avoids consequences and responsibility anywhere she can.
spoilers: easy girls can be ugly inside
And outside
i think she is a psychopath. she clearly lacks empathy and sympathy
Japanese school is like beauty handsome contest?
While school at my place is like prison
You get bullied if you don't want to fight
I am done with the daily punishment after win or lose fight
Get punished more when i stop fighting
@Asianalysis excellent essay into the case and also your commentary on it. When I was doing youth work back in the late 90s/early 2000s I did a lot of research into everything that has been discussed in your video.
One of the most important take away from that study was that a nation if know by the youth and it's mental health. You can see where a country is heading by the behaviour of it's youth and what they are dealing with. Turning a blind eye and ignoring their situation is a sure fire way to bring your nations future to a terrible end. We can easily see that with this current Gen Y.
I don't hold this generations despair, over intolerance and mental health on them but, partly on the overbearing and sometimes uncaring previous generation. Youth, when eventually become they become adults, forget what being young was like. They ignore the stresses, needs and emotions of being young.
That always leads them disregard the same thing they longed for during their youth. This is what leads us as adults to treat young people as throw away 'things' and regard their pain and stresses as just minor things, when if we were to look back would see them as digestating end of the world situations to us when we were their age.
So, the best thing we can learn from this video, is that we need to be more caring and more aware for the pain and mental health of others. We can try a little harder to be someone who can try to understand, but still be firm when we see bad behaviour, as we can see where bad behaviour or not caring can lead someone to as shown in this terrible ordeal leading a child's untimely passing.
Sorry for this long post.
I look forward to watching more of your video essays.
Again, with sociopaths, you CAN NOT do anything other than ignore them, lest they abuse your trust and empathy, which always leads to misery and especially death. I've seen enough examples on an INTERNATIONAL scale, undiscriminating of class, race, nationality and creed, to conclude that lost causes EXIST and are more numerous than I can estimate with help. Care and compassion DID NOT change Kanna, it only emboldened her to abuse and defraud more people. The reality of the matter is that love and care only lead to more abuse sent from the so-called "victim" of the narrative onto the real victims of the incidents they eventually bring onto the world. Cynical as it is, the Truth cares very little about hope and heroes.
As for "trying a little harder", I do not subscribe to this naive notion. To take a page from the 36 Strategems, specifically the final, 36th Strategem, walking away is far better in the long run than exhausting all options.
Excellent quality video as always!
Thank you!
Even though mental health plays a huge role, it's still horrible what she done to the baby. She could have send the baby to an adoption center.
damn, she's running with intrusive thoughts as main operating system
Think it's called main character syndrome maybe?
if you peel away the thin veil of lights and anime you see jp is a country of disturbing nightmare.
Unpopular opinion.. she is pretty with makeup. It is not that she is "ugly" that she is being a joke at school. Her confidence gone wrong when she is proud for dating older man and being confessed by bad boys from school 😢😢😢
She is a murderer , how tf is she allowed to walk outside of a prison bars
I truly hope your nation finds solutions to these problems, either through government programs or charitable acts, because Nippon, is known world wide as an nation of respectful people, plus less crime than anywhere else in the world. Well done with your reporting, I had heard of this lady a long time ago, but completely forgot about the case; I heard how she manipulated men, but I never heard the baby on the beach thing; that is next level unforgivable in any nation.
Wow never been this early before
I wonder if we could get an update on whether or not if she's gone through the criminal justice system or not?
16 minutes of watching this video i had enough 😂 can't get myself to watching the rest of this ridiculous case..
It's sad how someone become crazy in this world,but is worse been alone and helpless,so that,this people live a nightmare and no body know about it.
Hmmmm i like that the presenter seems to have really researched their sources, but to jump to the conclusion about the relationship between father and daughter simply by a single tweet (which could easily be explained by teen angst) and a statement from a nosy neighbor is a bit much. I also think that the analysis the she is a kleptomaniac is wrong (just my opinion). I think its closer to extreme narcissistic disorder, its not that she couldnt help her self from stealing, lying or even burning her child. its more of she just didnt care and just did what she wanted, believing that she will never be in trouble because shes either entitled to it or that shes special and they would let her off. I think this also explains why at 1st she was posting about her 2nd pregnancy and she was taking care of it because it was novel for her(i.e "i'm more special now since im pregnant"). It wasnt that she was taking care of the baby, she was taking care of herself and the baby was just secondary, more of an accessory to her. But i think that the moment the baby came and it stopped becoming a part of her and the reality of motherhood set in and it became a hassle for her so she had to get rid of it. Anyways i still liked the content since you dont really get a lot of crime vlogs coming from japan thats not mistranlated into english.
i'm a bit confused at the part in the beginning at 1:14 where you described her as "not the most visually attractive individual"? although i understand that her classmates and strangers on the internet held that opinion, so it's good to know, i just don't see what echoing it adds to the conversation. not trying to hate or sympathize with this woman, just confused. especially since she seems to have been a child when most of this name calling occurred. otherwise a really good, concise video. tragic how many people were permanently traumatized in the crossfire of an individual who should've had some sort of mental health intervention from an early age. i hope her exhusband and daughter find happiness
i didnt even watch the whole vid so idk what is it abt but im pretty sure shes just fax t so obv shes not attractive
Why do I feel like when the relationship broke down the baby became disposable.
I did watch a doc about ghost babies in Korea. I think from the channel KDOC. Babies who are unalived by their parents and because they never got registered we don't they're gone till remains are found. But one couple kept the unalived baby in their kitchen freezer. Yes same freezer they'd put a person would put their frozen peas in and they lived in an apartment. The had maybe 2 or 3 others kids already. The husband, allegedly abusive said he didn't know about the baby or the baby in the freezer. How?
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