Final Fantasy 16: Motion Blur Patch and Technical Review
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2023
- In the modern era of Online gaming, the Digital delivered patch has become more than just a crutch. Which is why Square Enix's latest title is a commendable outlier, with it having no issues and rock solid performance in that default mode right from launch. That is not to say it did not have things that could be improved, with this latest patch I delve into what has and has not improved since my launch review on IGN.
IGN Performance Review:- • Final Fantasy 16 - IGN...
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They really need to add VRR and LFC for this title. A 40fps quality mode with lfc to help the regular framerate mode since it drops below the VRR window
Im around the 3 hour mark and i stopped playing cause since i firmly believe we wont play this game at a good 60fps at least they would give us a 40fps mode... dunno if we should wait though....
Hell, forspoken had a 40fps mode on release... why ff16 didn't?
@@jeanlepage4264it doesn’t help
@@jeanlepage4264 it drops frequently below 48 and barley helps otherwise. I have a top of the line tv and I know when it’s not working
Oh man, I love the music, I think it is incredible.
Maybe I was not clear, the music is well composed and many of the themes are great. It is they are often used incorrectly, do not fit the mood, abruptly stop/start and thus feel jarring.
I have the motion blue set it 2 and love it. I really hope they add a 40fps mode
Motion blur is amazing at 2 it actually feel like a different game now💯
ye even squares C team managed to get 40fps in Forspoken
Most Definitely needs a 40fps patch update other then that amazing game ff16 is
I am playing on graphics mode and tried the middle road with mb set to 3. it looked so bad, I immediately switched to 5. tried the game with your recommended mb 2 and I have to say, it’s perfect. Thank you for your service sir. 🙏
@NX Gamer- If you ever have the time/inclination, I think it would be very enlightening to hear your opinion about why games are releasing in a progressively more unfinished condition than years prior? I know it’s been a thing for sometime now, but it feels like more games than ever before are launching in rough shape. Is it happening because they know we’ll buy it anyway? You’re really good at covering complex topics and I feel like this issue probably has numerous aggravating factors.
It’s about software development in general, they can patch it later, it’s important release a game and start to make money
And in the meantime games are complex than ever
@@jekaufo I know there's a big business component to it and they have to get a ROI but it just seems like the bar has been lowered on what is acceptable to ship. And you have games like Jedi Survivor, which they don't even seem to be trying to fix the performance mode at all.
I'd suspected there was something up with the actual quality of the motion blur as there was just something about it that felt off, and it's interesting to see that confirmed here. I don't mind strong motion blur, but the artifacting/quality issues here undermine the default strength of it they're using.
Thanks, Michael. Very helpful. Is there any reason they went with the hugely inferior FSR1 instead of FSR2? Baffling.
40 FPS MODE WILL SAVE THIS GENERATION !
Thanks I switched to motion blur 2 on graphics mode and it’s a huge difference. One of the most impactful videos in a long time.
come one even squares C team that made Forspoken managed a 40fps mode. It needs to happen
Great analysis. Not a fan of motion blur myself.
Credit to you for not holding back when commenting on the music. While I disagree that it "never gets great", I do believe it's a very clear step down from FF7R and FF15. It was the one area of the game where I wanted them to not sacrifice the creativity just to "suit" the game's style and narrative, but they unfortunately decided to take that route. I can only hope that they lift off that clichéd Hollywood restriction from Soken for the seemingly inevitable DLC.
Boss battle music is so repetetive.
Never having played the original Final Fantasy 7, Final Fantasy 7 Remake has such a great soundtrack that it rivals the soundtracks of the games I played as a child where heavy nostalgia is involved, like all the Zelda games.
That's why I was so bummed when both of the "new" Zeldas have so little music in them.
I don't understand the fixed 30 every reviewer talks about.
I experienced frequent fps drops in 30 fps mode, especially during Eikon battles, where it looked like it dropped to the realm of 10-15 fps pretty often.
Is it because you didn't play a lot of the game?
But that can also not be the case, since the first real Eikon battle happens maybe after 3-5 hours and there was already lag there.
How can any dev ship a game when it can't even handle 30fps. That shit needs to be delayed for optimisation as far as I'm concerned. Just piss poor.
Yes. I tried the demo and when the big beast and the fenix fought (I've never played any FF game before, so I'm not familiar with the lore) the game drops frames like crazy. It felt somewhere in the 10-20fps range. This is insane, because there are games like Horizon forbidden west and Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart, that look better with more particles and npcs and perform way better with better resolution. I don't know how this is tolerable and how this is next gen. If next gen means worse looking games with lower framerate, I don't want it.
Man, the game is such a mix of massive highs and sinking lows. For performance they needed an LFC mode (120hz VRR is an option with PS5). Very surprising to say the least they couldn’t figure this out for launch. I am almost positive they’re working on something like this for a patch down the line.
Knowing Square, I don't think so.
They barely patch their games.
Final Fantasy 7 Remake for PC still runs pretty bad.
@@wtf17727 they just patched Forspoken performance to run at a near 60 lock. So, yeah, lets see.
If they implement a non raytracing shadow solution, I think they could achieve a much higher fps performance and also higher resolution. Also, the update did not touch performance. They will be releasing a future update for that.
the game doesn’t support ray tracing!!
@@khaled8671it does. It seems that they’re using some kind of RT for the shadows and lightning.
@@chingvang9320 it’s not ray tracing! it’s something else
Question: Any chance you could help us get PlayStations attention for a bug that was created with the last system update? If I have vrr on, and use performance mode, when outside of the vrr window during cutscenes or during gameplay it can create a flickering effect on screen. The flickering can also happen in the graphics mode as well.
But it isn't limited to just FF16. In Spiderman remastered the main menu flickers in the 40fps mode. With the Last of us part 1 I've come across flickering in gameplay playing on fidelity with the fps unlocked.
On topic of the video: thanks for the recommendations. This video is very useful.
I'd say if they lowered other settings (textures, ao, lod, draw distance, foliage) in the perf mode they won't even have to resort to 720p in battles.
you can wait next year for a PC release and get a rtx 4090 to run this game much better on a crappy monitor with fake HDR, or you can get a LG C3 55" today which makes justice to this game particles effects and its motion processor is able to smooth out even low resolution to look like beyond 60fps.
Not sure why this game runs so poorly, it's not really a looker.
i figured it was 2 when it was first released
Can motion blur be completely disabled?
Watch the video. 0 is off
If you want a consistent place to show the 30fps mode dropping frames, head to the Ravenwit Walls checkpoint in Waloed and head south a bit. Standing in the aether fog and looking up at the gates causes performance to tank hard, maybe low 20's by my eye? It's happened every time I've been there, and in general seems to happen more often when there's that aether flood effect around.
Right, and he says even in Eikon fights he had consistent 30 fps but shows no Eikon fight.
Then he shows a brief scene of an Eikon fight but with performance mode and in his showing it drops as low as 34 fps.
So 34 fps at probably 720p in an Eikon fight and I'm sure 1080p will be a stable 30 FPS in Eikon fights...
Meanwhile I experienced heavy fps drops in nearly every Eikon fight in graphics mode.
Don't know why reviewers do this, it's overall a pretty stable 30 FPS and I would argue in Eikon fights it doesn't matter that much, but it's one of the big spectacles of the game. You can't then claim the game is rock solid.
@@wtf17727 Yeah at 10:40 he says it holds a locked 60fps in the desert areas but then immediately shows it dropping frames lol
Next fix the performance mode please square Enix
🤝🏼🙌🏻
Man im begging them to add 40fps
Mos Definitely!!
The performance mode kinda sucks, maybe Sony should force devs to use FSR 2
Im not a FF fan so i ll wait till they solve the framerate
They're already using FSR1 (or some type of spatial upscaler) in both the performance and quality modes. I think games like FFXVI and Jedi Survivor highlight what happens when they create a game with a 30fps target (33.3ms frame time) and then basically just give you a un unlocked frame rate and call it "performance mode". Games need to be engineered from the beginning to run at 60fps or else it's difficult to ever reach that target. Maybe they will pull an Asobo(PT Requiem) and manage to get 60 out of these games, you never know.
@@jedimindtrickonyou3692 if the performance mode is never patched my last hope would be a PS5pro with an AI upscaler that works independent of devs. I heard FSR3 will be built into 7000 gpu drivers so i ll keep dreaming
@@ElPibePlay1000 These games lately that can’t reach 60fps (and have to drop down to 720p ish res in attempt to do so, while still failing) are an excellent reason to make a PS5 pro with system-level upscaling and some type of frame generation/interpolation. Sign me up, I’ll buy one on the first day.
game needs LFC and VRR, it was an absolute blast, some parts made my jaw drop.
First 10 hours of this game is really good.
After that, the next 15 hours is a snorefest.
The last 10 hours remains to be seen, I'm there and it doesn't look very good.
4:00, 6:30
I do wish they had reduced the graphics a bit more in performance mode to not only boost frame rate but also improve resolution. Still I also wish it was turn based but I can't do anything about that. Waiting for it's eventual PC release
The fact the game shipped with forced motion blur set to 5 is bonkers, did nobody play test the game?
I like the game , but it's missing something for me I'm just trying to get to the end and can't say I'm overly enjoying it. This is shit to write but it is what it is :(
The real release date of this game is like in september, they just cannot release finised games now a days!
Except this game is finished. Lol. 70+ hours on it and not a single bug encountered. They clearly cared too much about the graphics to be willing to reduce its quality to boost performance, but with enough complaints, I think they'd be willing to go back and do that.
Seeing this and just have bought FFXVI while being an adamant 60 fps guy is just downright ass. God damnit...
720p Next gen gaming lol
Yeah it’s disappointing but don’t stick too much on raw numbers the whole time. The game has stunning scenes and details.
@@MisterReen already completed it in disappointing 30 fps mode. Perfomance mode has unacceptable not stable fps and blury mess instead of proper image because of resolution.
Like NX has said before, Image Quality is more important than raw pixel counts. And people said the same thing about Forspoken and it's in pretty good shape now.
I never liked how any of the FF games looked. Just edgy/ cheesey looking characters and fireworks looking combat.
But the way this game was praised makes me really wanna try this.
I tried Zelda TOTK against my judgment and was surprised, maybe this will surprise me too??
I know there's a demo for this, Is it a good representation of the full game?
Yes, the game only gets better after the demo.
I wanted to get this game so bad but the demo showed me its not what I thought it would be
This game has by far the most consistently grounded character designs of the series. No one looks outlandish or cheesy, so I think you'll be able to handle it. It also has a script that's much more bearable than the rest of the series and actually tells a pretty competent story from start to finish. As for particle effects, it seems like Japanese AAA action games are getting more and more addicted to filling up the screen. Lol. I personally wasn't super bothered by it though.
The demo actually undersells the game. The insanity reaches levels we've probably not seen since the PS3 days and the gameplay gets better when you're deeper into the game. With that said, I have no doubt in my mind that the most enjoyable way to experience this game is with the Final Fantasy hard mode that's available in NG+.
Don't think about it,just buy it. You won't regret it!
If u do the play demo, there two parts, when u beat the first part, the 2nd part will unlock where u can use all sorts of abilities unlocked for u, and it's much further into the story, so dont miss it.
Wow. You really think the music is weak 😆😆😆. It’s by far the best feature 🙄🙄🙄
Just started playing and immediately turned motion blur to "off" or zero and it's still noticably there and is obviously not off and it's extremely annoying because I hate motion blur with a passion.
The motion blur sliding bar doesn't work for me. It's the same whether I turn it all the way on or off. All in all, I am completely disappointed with this game. The story was ok, the graphics and framerate were horrible and the controls were decent. I do not believe this game is a ps5 game. More a ps4.
Also, this is not a rpg.
Who actually uses motion blur? Trading barely noticable smoothing on motion with motion sickness! I always turn it off when possible
I turn it on when running a game at 30fps. Raw 30fps without motion blur looks too juddery for me. Of course, I'd prefer 60+ fps without motion blur where possible haha.
If it’s well implemented it usually makes 30fps look better and in some cases 60fps. OW one of those games that look awful below 120 since there’s no blur
"The music is good but never great"..? Nx bro, I love your content, but no. The music in ffxvi is nothing short than amazing.
The music isn't good, its the same fucking combat music every time and the sound mixing is dreadful. Cutscenes with beautiful visuals but music is all over the place. I won't talk about a certain death but the music that plays during a pivotal moment in the story and the death of a character sounds like something from fucking minecraft or stardew valley
NXgamer >>>>> DF
NX Gamer and John Lihneman are the best ambassadors of PlayStation. They try so hard to sell more copies of Final Fantasy XVI.
i mean its a good game lol, what do you want them to say its crap? you not got a ps5 or something
It's a great game lol! It's up there with the Spidermans,Uncharted, and GOW's !
They just appreciate the better platform, they both cover PC/Steam Deck and numerous other hardware platforms.
Motion blur should be OFF by default, with the option to enable it. My mind will not be changed.
The game sucks
It won’t come to Series L, get over it
@@MisterReen Lmaoo, i'm a ps5 gamer bruh 💀 just don't like this trash i don't understand anything that's going on and it's goofy. Big ass sword looking ass 😭😭🙏🏻