Guardian: And you Dog... you've spent your days faithfully following your master from the day you were born. Never gettting a chance to voice your own opinions or griefs. Treated as a second class citizen; forced to live off scraps as you've watch your brethren locked up and caged like beast. Has the desire to turn on your masters ever arose in your mind. Dog: Bark Guardian: I will respect your wishes Warden: .... !!!!
I find Oghren's and Sten's answers to be the most compelling. Oghren's for the simple fact that he reveals just how much he hates himself, and Sten's, for the stoicism with which he carries his shame for killing innocents in a moment of madness.
Guardian:.....'looks at the Mabari' Dog: 'stares' Guardian:......There is no regret in this one, only certainty. Figures a Dog would be the one to have such a thing. Dog: 'Happy Bark'
Oghren really shows some hidden depths there. Using drink and fighting to cope with the fact that he's lost all he really cared for, good thing he finds some measure of solace in aiding the protagonist at least.
Because she’s a special snowflake who is smarter than everyone in Thedas! At least that’s how the game frames it. 🙄🙄 If it weren’t for her place in Inquisition, I’d be tempted to say “forget it” and die in battle with the old god
I love how everyone takes their heart being put to the test seriously and acts like they gotta be probed and then morrigan just nopes him and he's like "lol ok"
I find it humbling how when the Guardian turned to Oghren to ask about his regret, Oghren back-hands him with an outburst about his mistakes and self loathing. Guardian just gives him respect. -Then Morrigan's like bugger off- The Dalish path is a constant kick in the face, but I admit this was horrible, too.
To me, it indicates that inside, she isn’t how she likes to appear. She’s got a lot to hide, and not just in terms of secrets and past deeds, but also her true self (not as brutal and careless as she likes to demonstrate. I think she finds herself and acts more like her true self in Inquisition)
@@joeywild2011 Ofc. She appears cold but if you romance her it's easy to see how jealous she can get and protective over the Warden. I think she gets more honest to herself when we see her in DA:Inquisition. Warden was clearly a good influence to her(and I like to think that she also was a good influence to him, making him trust her with the strange ritual that really ended up in a way it should).
@@chillax319 Actually, I think Morrigan was completely manipulated and shaped into a tool for Flemeth and the moment she left she did Flemeth's bidding and by trying to run away from Flemeth and getting stronger she did exactly what Flemeth wanted and programmed her for. Morrigan in Inquisition wants nothing more than power to get away from mother and by doing it becomes a slave to her. (Morrigan is never Morrigan but a mindless drone trying to get free and the more she tries the more she fastens her leash and becomes more of a tool for Flemeth.)
Oghren: "I don't really know about these Guardian types, but i think the correct answer was yes?" Shale: "It seems that reflection on past mistakes is a constant preoccupation of the religious mind" SHOTS FIRED! I love that comments xDD
Oghren has some very interesting special dialogue about the lyrium in the mountain if you bring both him and Leliana, and in later games it turns out his observations were correct. He's a lot more perceptive than he seems.
Guardian: and you Geralt of Rivia do you regret looting all those items from all those poor villagers? Geralt: How bout a round of Gwent? Guardian: Nods
Guardian: and you, Kratos, Ghost of Sparta, former God of War. in your moment of lost you let rage consume you. your body became an altar for sacrifices and your soul, the pyre that consumed. you've laid waste to the land you called home. all to the god you worshiped, your vengeance. do you regret any of your actions? Kratos: Yes. Guardian: will you... elaborate? Kratos: No.
Spirit: And you, dog; you spent your life for making Nan angry by diving into castle cellar, do you have any regrets because you couldn't eat all the beefs in there? Dog: (Whines) Spirit: Well, fuck it anyway... The way is open. Good luck, and may you find what you seek. But be careful and do not let this worthless furbag piss on anywhere in the Gauntlet or the Urn.
Oghren really does point out that his family is dead because of Branka, his honor as a warrior is lost as well, his caste is lost and his entire house is destroyed. He could have stopped Branka from even going into the Deep Roads to go after the Anvil to begin with. Oghren is what little remains of his house, he came to the surface because he could barely call himself a dwarf anymore. He had nothing to lose now.
So many years. So many times I beaten the Origins and it's the first time I saw that side to Oghren character. Thanks for that vid AbidingGamer, it gave me another perspective to Oghren.
@@LarS1963 Woah, what?! Awakening was an awesome expansion, dude. Better than Witch Hunt and Golems of Amgarrak(sp?) imo. What didn't you like about it?
@@dastardlybastardthe2nd Well, Witchhunt I quite liked. Golems of whatever was awful. But they were both dlc, rather than an expansion. What didn't I like about Awakening? The disregard for the original story: Instead of expanding on the fate of the characters from Origins, they instead introduce a new, and quite frankly, dull cast, except Oghren, whom they just made shallow and dumb. Then they turn out a story that's so innane and utterly braindead, it was difficult to wrap ones head about it: Awakened darkspawn, who wants peace with the surface races. Lets see... how do darkspawn reproduce? Oh yes, they capture women and turn them into breeding machines. So I suppose that the price of that peace would be that Ferelden hands over a number of women every year as a tribute? The game doesn't even consider this, a plothole that gapes wider than the mouth of a darkspawn. And finally, the lazy design, where you've no control over when and where you want to talk to your companions, but instead are forced to react to trigger-points at random places. Awakening was such a disappointment after Origins, that I should have seen the writing on the wall and steer clear of DA2.
I seen it and still hate him. Doesnt change my feeling a single bit. Just because he hates himself because he's trash doesnt make him any less trash. Only a trash that realizes it and chooses to get drunk and harrass people - making me hate him even more. His jokes arent even funny to me. He's disgusting, vile and totally terrible to the core. After he lost everything he would still try to lose his second family because of how trash he is - was lucky my Warden helped him twice to fix the family and still Im not sure it will last.
@@Dark_Voice i meant the haters that say he only exists as comic relief, you hate his character which means you admit he *has* a character, the same way someone might hate Morrigan. She has character, she's still a terrible person, or Jack from Mass Effect, who has done just about every crime imaginable, she also has a character You are already better than most Oghren Haters, you hate him for what he is, a useless drunk, rather than for him not being a character at all
I played the game on the 360. It was a lot less detailed than this video. Some characters, like Leliana, look a lot better with these graphics. Some, like Oghren...well, let's just say that the better graphics didn't treat him well.
Leliana’s haircut (and Zevran’s) are so bad, and Oghren looks horrible, Stens stubble is disgusting Only Wynne looked good, and it’s because she had her Ponytail (I think) For some reason people love to give her Anora hair
I love how the guardian just totally calls out leliana on her shit, she plays the innocent girl roll but she actually just wants attention, good or bad.
Alessandra Holander Zevran loved a fellow assassin named Rinna who was framed for betrayal, Zevran killed her slowly as she denied betraying them, begging for her life and confessing she loved Zevran too. Eventually it was found out that Rinna didn't betray them at all and Zevran felt guilty for what he did.
There's appearances mod for companions in nexus mods that does this. All characters have different pre-sets: they either do minimal chances to their appearances in form of lore friendly or then total make-over. This seems to be mix of two with Leliana and Sten to be changed closer to their trailer models and Zevran getting total make-over.
@@spacejesus6581 Btw, Leliana should look like that, she didnt because the developers werent skilled enough - they couldnt even program Sten well. Leliana looked like that in the trailers.
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Guardian: And you Dog... you've spent your days faithfully following your master from the day you were born. Never gettting a chance to voice your own opinions or griefs. Treated as a second class citizen; forced to live off scraps as you've watch your brethren locked up and caged like beast. Has the desire to turn on your masters ever arose in your mind.
Dog: Bark
Guardian: I will respect your wishes
Warden: .... !!!!
*Goes on long conversation about there problems*
Guardian: "And you Morrigan"
Morrigan: "No"
Guardian: "Ok"
I find Oghren's and Sten's answers to be the most compelling.
Oghren's for the simple fact that he reveals just how much he hates himself, and Sten's, for the stoicism with which he carries his shame for killing innocents in a moment of madness.
Guardian:.....'looks at the Mabari'
Dog: 'stares'
Guardian:......There is no regret in this one, only certainty. Figures a Dog would be the one to have such a thing.
Dog: 'Happy Bark'
Sten: I'm right here
Guardian: Dwarf-
Oghren: No i'll do it 'Just ex-posits his Shadow Self in it's entirety.'
Holy shit Oghren......
Oghren really shows some hidden depths there. Using drink and fighting to cope with the fact that he's lost all he really cared for, good thing he finds some measure of solace in aiding the protagonist at least.
His farewell is the best in my opinion, when they warden is about to Enter denerim at the final battle.
I just love how everyone listens to the spirit and then Morrigan just tells it to bugger off XD
+LostMercenary99 That's because she's a stubborn bitch.
+LostMercenary99 I love her spunk, that's why she's always in my party :D
RandomSpongiform She could be pretty funny, but quite frankly, ever since she disapproved of me helping Redcliffe, I just told her to bugger off.
Morrigan for the win!
Because she’s a special snowflake who is smarter than everyone in Thedas! At least that’s how the game frames it. 🙄🙄
If it weren’t for her place in Inquisition, I’d be tempted to say “forget it” and die in battle with the old god
I love how everyone takes their heart being put to the test seriously and acts like they gotta be probed and then morrigan just nopes him and he's like "lol ok"
I find it humbling how when the Guardian turned to Oghren to ask about his regret, Oghren back-hands him with an outburst about his mistakes and self loathing. Guardian just gives him respect. -Then Morrigan's like bugger off-
The Dalish path is a constant kick in the face, but I admit this was horrible, too.
Dang, Morrigan's was the one I was most interested in. And yet I can't be unhappy with how she answered him.
To me, it indicates that inside, she isn’t how she likes to appear. She’s got a lot to hide, and not just in terms of secrets and past deeds, but also her true self (not as brutal and careless as she likes to demonstrate. I think she finds herself and acts more like her true self in Inquisition)
@@joeywild2011 Ofc. She appears cold but if you romance her it's easy to see how jealous she can get and protective over the Warden. I think she gets more honest to herself when we see her in DA:Inquisition. Warden was clearly a good influence to her(and I like to think that she also was a good influence to him, making him trust her with the strange ritual that really ended up in a way it should).
@@chillax319 Actually, I think Morrigan was completely manipulated and shaped into a tool for Flemeth and the moment she left she did Flemeth's bidding and by trying to run away from Flemeth and getting stronger she did exactly what Flemeth wanted and programmed her for. Morrigan in Inquisition wants nothing more than power to get away from mother and by doing it becomes a slave to her. (Morrigan is never Morrigan but a mindless drone trying to get free and the more she tries the more she fastens her leash and becomes more of a tool for Flemeth.)
Oghren: "I don't really know about these Guardian types, but i think the correct answer was yes?"
Shale: "It seems that reflection on past mistakes is a constant preoccupation of the religious mind"
SHOTS FIRED! I love that comments xDD
Oghren has some very interesting special dialogue about the lyrium in the mountain if you bring both him and Leliana, and in later games it turns out his observations were correct. He's a lot more perceptive than he seems.
I made Orzammar first just to hear Oghren's confession. Is so deep into his charachter. No matter if he is a drunk and a depraved, I love Oghren.
Guardian: and you Geralt of Rivia do you regret looting all those items from all those poor villagers?
Geralt: How bout a round of Gwent?
Guardian: Nods
Lmao underrated
Guardian: and you, Kratos, Ghost of Sparta, former God of War. in your moment of lost you let rage consume you. your body became an altar for sacrifices and your soul, the pyre that consumed. you've laid waste to the land you called home. all to the god you worshiped, your vengeance. do you regret any of your actions?
Kratos: Yes.
Guardian: will you... elaborate?
Kratos: No.
Spirit: And you, dog; you spent your life for making Nan angry by diving into castle cellar, do you have any regrets because you couldn't eat all the beefs in there?
Dog: (Whines)
Spirit: Well, fuck it anyway... The way is open. Good luck, and may you find what you seek. But be careful and do not let this worthless furbag piss on anywhere in the Gauntlet or the Urn.
Oghren really does point out that his family is dead because of Branka, his honor as a warrior is lost as well, his caste is lost and his entire house is destroyed. He could have stopped Branka from even going into the Deep Roads to go after the Anvil to begin with. Oghren is what little remains of his house, he came to the surface because he could barely call himself a dwarf anymore. He had nothing to lose now.
Yes thank you for rehashing what Ogrhen already said in the video.
Shale: Good for you
LMFAO I'm dead lolololololololololololololololol
Lol Shale: "Good for you!" That acidic wit never gets old.
So many years. So many times I beaten the Origins and it's the first time I saw that side to Oghren character. Thanks for that vid AbidingGamer, it gave me another perspective to Oghren.
3:35 starts with alistat
Even the all knowing ancient guy got puzzle by morrigan background.
He wasn't puzzled. He was interrupted.
How not to love Oghren?
Best line in this scene was his
Euronymous pls
In Origins, yes. In Awakening he was awful. Then again, most of Awakening was awful.
@@LarS1963 Woah, what?! Awakening was an awesome expansion, dude. Better than Witch Hunt and Golems of Amgarrak(sp?) imo.
What didn't you like about it?
@@dastardlybastardthe2nd Well, Witchhunt I quite liked. Golems of whatever was awful. But they were both dlc, rather than an expansion. What didn't I like about Awakening? The disregard for the original story: Instead of expanding on the fate of the characters from Origins, they instead introduce a new, and quite frankly, dull cast, except Oghren, whom they just made shallow and dumb.
Then they turn out a story that's so innane and utterly braindead, it was difficult to wrap ones head about it: Awakened darkspawn, who wants peace with the surface races. Lets see... how do darkspawn reproduce? Oh yes, they capture women and turn them into breeding machines. So I suppose that the price of that peace would be that Ferelden hands over a number of women every year as a tribute? The game doesn't even consider this, a plothole that gapes wider than the mouth of a darkspawn.
And finally, the lazy design, where you've no control over when and where you want to talk to your companions, but instead are forced to react to trigger-points at random places.
Awakening was such a disappointment after Origins, that I should have seen the writing on the wall and steer clear of DA2.
I love that Morrigan gives less than zero fucks.
I actually looked this up cuz ohgren's response was what made him my second favorite companion (zevran being the first).
I wanna see a sequence break Loghain in this
quite the nosy mind this spirit has, how dare it poke around the visitor's mind
thanks for this
What mod are you using for the faces and textures? I would very much like to play with it.
Some are from DAO:Redesigned
Oghren haters have never seen 3:52
I seen it and still hate him. Doesnt change my feeling a single bit. Just because he hates himself because he's trash doesnt make him any less trash. Only a trash that realizes it and chooses to get drunk and harrass people - making me hate him even more. His jokes arent even funny to me. He's disgusting, vile and totally terrible to the core. After he lost everything he would still try to lose his second family because of how trash he is - was lucky my Warden helped him twice to fix the family and still Im not sure it will last.
@@Dark_Voice i meant the haters that say he only exists as comic relief, you hate his character which means you admit he *has* a character, the same way someone might hate Morrigan. She has character, she's still a terrible person, or Jack from Mass Effect, who has done just about every crime imaginable, she also has a character
You are already better than most Oghren Haters, you hate him for what he is, a useless drunk, rather than for him not being a character at all
I played the game on the 360. It was a lot less detailed than this video. Some characters, like Leliana, look a lot better with these graphics. Some, like Oghren...well, let's just say that the better graphics didn't treat him well.
Leliana’s haircut (and Zevran’s) are so bad, and Oghren looks horrible, Stens stubble is disgusting
Only Wynne looked good, and it’s because she had her Ponytail (I think)
For some reason people love to give her Anora hair
What does he say if you bring your mabari with you?
Wynne: "No U"
where the dog?
What about the dog?
I wonder what was zevran talking about
So wait, does Shale or does Shale not have a scene for this?
Shale's scene starts at 4:30
Oghren is such a bff love you softie
What is the name of the mod you used to show all the partners?
I recorded With a bunch of different party setups, so sometimes you see the warden change, I think. So I just edited them together.
wow, I thought it was some mod, .... by the way, did you use any commands in the runscript so that all the characters in the game appear?
I love how the guardian just totally calls out leliana on her shit, she plays the innocent girl roll but she actually just wants attention, good or bad.
I'm curious about Zev past
Alessandra Holander Zevran loved a fellow assassin named Rinna who was framed for betrayal, Zevran killed her slowly as she denied betraying them, begging for her life and confessing she loved Zevran too. Eventually it was found out that Rinna didn't betray them at all and Zevran felt guilty for what he did.
N¡ghtshade * woa, thank you
Is it just me or did this audio sound really garbled and like everybody was mumbling?
Oh, it is. Recorded this way back in 2014 with headphones plugged in. There's something really odd with the bass especially, I think.
Na for me it plays ok
Why tf does Liliana look like that? What is happening?
It’s called a mod. I have something like that, too. Epic ladies of Ferelden. I modded everyone :D
Doesnt it mean that Morrigan failed this proving of being worthy to see Andraste's ashes? What is the point of the guardian then?
This isn’t part of the Gauntlet, it’s just a small test, one that cannot be failed
so i only missed one companion , that Golem one
Xion Kale he is available in dlc only.
How dare you! xD Shale is a beautiful woman!
O,o that golem is Female ?
Yes, Shale is a female. Confirmed in her quest. It explains her infatuation with gems and the such.
did you use a mod to make leliana and zevran look different? they actually look nice and smooth in your game...
Are you serious? Their hair makes them look like Ginger/Blonde Emos!
There's appearances mod for companions in nexus mods that does this. All characters have different pre-sets: they either do minimal chances to their appearances in form of lore friendly or then total make-over. This seems to be mix of two with Leliana and Sten to be changed closer to their trailer models and Zevran getting total make-over.
@@spacejesus6581 Btw, Leliana should look like that, she didnt because the developers werent skilled enough - they couldnt even program Sten well. Leliana looked like that in the trailers.
@@Dark_Voice the faces look good, it's just the hair, Leliana's isn't as bad as I thought a couple years ago, but there is no defense for Zevran here
@@Dark_Voice the faces look good, it's just the hair, Leliana's isn't as bad as I thought a couple years ago, but there is no defense for Zevran here
Ugh I never got that rock man
something is terribly wrong with your recording software...
eeeeeeew dog?
Dog has no scene here, for some reason. Brought him along for recording a bunch of times, even Barkspawn alone, but absolutely nothing. :(
Larsy no I am not sad really animals understand deity better than humans
You think the dog will answer ? Lol Tf
Morrigan is no fun...
What about the dog?
Sorry, Dog doesn't have any regrets it seems. I tried him with two different parties, but the Guardian didn't have anything to ask him.