It's really weird to say but I wish they would do more stuff together. And I know they don't like to hear stuff like this. But I cant help it, that's how I feel.
The singing at the start of podcasts is, has been, and will always be one of my favorite parts of this channel. I want more episodes about generic topics, round tables, debates, and just banter please.
Carmen's Sacrifice trigger works when any player sacrifices, including yourself. Considering Orzhov Vampires tend to have a lot of token generation and sac outlets you don't need to rely on your opponents to benefit from it.
treasures arent nearly as common as you might think. and even then most people only make a small amount early on. the best treasure producers are pretty expensive for causal players
You don't get it, you run her as the commander and then just fill your deck with edict creatures like plaguecrafter. On attack at base, she becomes a 10/10 with flying and all your opponents have to sac two creatures. She is disgusting
If redemption Choir is in a game knights episode we need the animation to be the three singing saying, "the world is a vampire" and the dude lying down singing the next line
The value of this deck seems insane, and Master of rites is truly a powerful new card. Always wanted a White Vampire deck, just a shame that crimson vow vampiric bloodlines didn't do this kind of justice for a red vampire deck.
Wow, the new cards look really cool, and the reprint value is crazy with this precon. I hope this becomes the standard as time goes on (or it keeps getting better).
I think the "Bang for your Buck" needs to be how you evaluate deck value moving forward since the purchase prices swing so much. I appreciate seeing a scaled assessment so that it's always a normalized assessment. Keep up the great work team!
Josh and Jimmy really do make the best episodes, and seeing them together in Game Knights and these is always a treat. You go, you two! You're doing great work, along with everyone else in the cast! 😁
so exited for this, just turned my elenda deck into an edgar markov deck so I was super looking forward to the new vampire shenanigans 🎉 thanks a lot for showcasing!!
Something cute overlooked with Carmen is treasures will trigger it, and it triggers for each thing sacrificed, not each instance, so cards like Single Combat are also quite hilarious.
You guys did great on this video, and I hope you guys have fun with the deck. I can't wait to get this deck from the shelf because it has cards I need for my Edgar Markov Deck.
Love the og pair Josh&Jimmy!! Another topic: I really like the videos of analysis and upgrade of edh precons, but I don't like to see it separate in too many videos, as usual. Like 1 video for an analysis, 1 for it's upgrade, etc... It would be great to gather the upgrades and gather the analysis videos one for each, or gather analysis and upgrade for each deck in 1 video. So we get more fun and interesting videos of gameplay or game theory 😊 Thank you for your work!
My friend got this deck for me today as a late birthday gift didn't get to play it yet but was looking through it definitely some good cards in this precon
i already have an Edgard Markov vampire deck and i feel this is the cheaper and more available version of it. id probably buy it if i didnt have Markov already ! i love vampires
I'm new to Magic and i want to get into Commander. I just put this deck on hold at my LGS. So excited to pick it up and play with it. Even though I'm still new this deck sounds like fun.
I am so happy. I have an Edgar Markov deck I’ve been trying to put an aristocrats package into. And so many of the cards in this just give that deck juice
I'm super excited for this deck! I have a Vito/Exquisite Blood mono black vampire deck currently and I'm excited to either finish perfecting it OR making a second vamp deck...and I've wanted a dino deck but haven't found one I liked yet so I'm hopeful for the precon
Carmen is a sac outlet. Sacrifice a cheap vampire (with a cool ETB) before the attack step, turn Carmen sideways, pull it back out of the graveyard, rinse lather repeat.
Noob question on Exalted (20:29): Where does it say in the rule that you get a +1/+1 for EACH permanent with Exalted that you control? From my reading of the Exalted rule on this card, the best it can get is a single +1/+1 to become a 6/6. I don't see how multiple instances of Exalted each give multiple +1/+1 counters.
This is my favourite into, hands down, and it’s not even close. Jimmy not sure if you will see this but I thought you were hiding billy back there somewhere!
Others may have already commented, but hierophant means priest or a priest-like figure. It’s a loanword from Greek. I’m sure there are contexts that differentiate a hierophant proper from a priest or a cleric, but priest is a “close enough” gloss to give you a point of reference.
One thing that should be noted about Charismatic Conqueror is that it's an ETB trigger, meaning your opponents can tap mana rocks in response and still get the mana when they play them. This card will probably only matter for creatures that are needed on defense, or that have haste. Edit: Actually maybe if you do tap it for mana, then you can no longer "pay the cost" of the trigger and then your opponent will get a 1/1 anyways. Not sure about that rules interaction
It would be nice if during the stat breakdown you guys quickly went through (or just showed on screen???) which cards you're counting in which category. Hard to know with the ramp in this deck if you're counting the sneaky white stuff or not
20:30 This is the kind of convoke cards that should be designed. Since convoke is terrible if you're behind, and an uncomfortable choice at best if you have the board state to utilize it, the reward needs to be worth it. Zephyr Singer is another example of a reward for locking down your board.
You guys really need to start touring. That song was actually really really well done, I honestly felt like there didn’t need to be any background noise with jimmy causing such sweet rhythms.
It’s so funny. I have a vampire deck when crimson vow came out, built out of what was in it and most of it is what’s in this deck. I obviously use a different commander that’s black/red but almost all the cards I could play from this deck are in it.
The reason the song is titled "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" is because a bullet with butterfly wings is harmless. "Despite all my rage (bullet), I am still just a rat in a cage (harmless),"
It's always good to see Josh and Jimmy doing their thing
It's really weird to say but I wish they would do more stuff together. And I know they don't like to hear stuff like this. But I cant help it, that's how I feel.
Couldn't stop singing, just having too much fun!
I love these two, they have a great dynamic
I love Rachel and I'm glad she's somewhat taken over the cast but yea it's nice seeing them together again
The singing at the start of podcasts is, has been, and will always be one of my favorite parts of this channel. I want more episodes about generic topics, round tables, debates, and just banter please.
As someone who just started playing Magic and has been building vampire decks I couldn't be more excited!!
For the small price of double this precon u could buy Edgar though. 😭
I mean with a printer you can make an Edgar for free lol.
@@bantxc5616 60 bucks on cardmarket
Edgar is the "official" vampire commander
*just* Edgar :P@@bantxc5616
This was a BANGER opener my dudes.
Carmen's Sacrifice trigger works when any player sacrifices, including yourself.
Considering Orzhov Vampires tend to have a lot of token generation and sac outlets you don't need to rely on your opponents to benefit from it.
Came here to say this
"Carmen's sacrifice trigger doesn't happen that often.." *TREASURES ENTERS THE CHAT*
Yeah, blood, clues, food, maps you have enough options. Ashnod's/Phyrexian Altar and Gravepact are all time classics.
Command Zone broadcasting live from Bizarro Earth where treasures never really made it big in Commander.
treasures arent nearly as common as you might think. and even then most people only make a small amount early on. the best treasure producers are pretty expensive for causal players
You don't get it, you run her as the commander and then just fill your deck with edict creatures like plaguecrafter. On attack at base, she becomes a 10/10 with flying and all your opponents have to sac two creatures. She is disgusting
@@TheMegalodonGaming Lots of new treasure producers in this set though.
Dominic Mayer need its own secretlairs, his artstyle is amazing!
indeed
Went to go see the art they have done and didnt realize how many of my new favs they have done!
So does Adam Pouette
@@deltachiken5847 he has done good art, definitely a great new male artist!
him and Anato Finnstark, masters of badass art.
Josh and Jimmy - the intro absolutely takes some of us backkkkkkkk🤪
This is my favorite episode opening of any podcast ever
If redemption Choir is in a game knights episode we need the animation to be the three singing saying, "the world is a vampire" and the dude lying down singing the next line
We need more “these are my decks” episodes from the staff. That video Rachel did was great.
The value of this deck seems insane, and Master of rites is truly a powerful new card. Always wanted a White Vampire deck, just a shame that crimson vow vampiric bloodlines didn't do this kind of justice for a red vampire deck.
Dang bullet with butterfly wings is a classic
Wow, the new cards look really cool, and the reprint value is crazy with this precon. I hope this becomes the standard as time goes on (or it keeps getting better).
March of the Canonized has some of the best art I’ve seen in a while. I need like a playmat of that or something
I think the "Bang for your Buck" needs to be how you evaluate deck value moving forward since the purchase prices swing so much. I appreciate seeing a scaled assessment so that it's always a normalized assessment. Keep up the great work team!
I absolutely love this precon, i feel like we havent had anything this good ever, this should be the standard for future commander decks,
I don't know about everyone else but I was really getting into that intro song with them. I missed this from Josh and Jimmy
My Edgar deck is watching closely for potential upgrades.
❤
You should be plenty happy with march of the canonized then!
@@heresyseed I want to add a few cards but the challenge now is, what to take out 😅
@@raydelmartinez2905 same
I love seeing the OGs back together on an episode!!! Don't get me wrong I love all the cast but Josh and Jimmy together just hit different ❤
The singing is back!! I didn’t even finish the episode to write the comment. It brought me so much joy! Thanks guys!
They must not demonetize this beautiful content! Thanks for going to the bridge, guys 🥰
So good to have you guys in a show together again
Josh and Jimmy really do make the best episodes, and seeing them together in Game Knights and these is always a treat. You go, you two! You're doing great work, along with everyone else in the cast! 😁
This deck looks baller. I think I’m gonna get it and just not change it one bit lol looks fun!
so exited for this, just turned my elenda deck into an edgar markov deck so I was super looking forward to the new vampire shenanigans 🎉
thanks a lot for showcasing!!
Yay! Upgrades for my Edgar Deck. :)
Something cute overlooked with Carmen is treasures will trigger it, and it triggers for each thing sacrificed, not each instance, so cards like Single Combat are also quite hilarious.
Great intro! I think you overlooked that Carmen triggers when anyone uses treasure, food, and clues!
Gods but I really do miss that intro! 😂😂😂 Honestly might the best part of the episode. That is so classic!😂 and the way Josh kept it going!😂😂😂
The "dark ritual" on a stick is sweet
Carmen is insane and could see play in higher power pods. Incredibly solid abilities and graveyard recursion which is insanely nice.
You guys did great on this video, and I hope you guys have fun with the deck. I can't wait to get this deck from the shelf because it has cards I need for my Edgar Markov Deck.
I've got an Asterion deck that I've been working on for a year and this is perfect.
It's worth it just for the Exquisite Blood reprint alone.
I'm glad you two have never stopped singing. The World is a Vampire!!! Awesome!
I was about to buy Exquisite blood yesterday hahaha but now, i see i can wait for my Blood Rites precon to arrive
I always enjoy the opening songs. Best part of the Command Zone for me.
I immediately looked up bullet with butterfly wings after that beautiful rendition.
Holy crap, that intro singing was amazing and worth the watch already :D
Love the og pair Josh&Jimmy!!
Another topic: I really like the videos of analysis and upgrade of edh precons, but I don't like to see it separate in too many videos, as usual. Like 1 video for an analysis, 1 for it's upgrade, etc... It would be great to gather the upgrades and gather the analysis videos one for each, or gather analysis and upgrade for each deck in 1 video. So we get more fun and interesting videos of gameplay or game theory 😊
Thank you for your work!
Okay. Okay. I have to give it up - that was the best song intro ever!
Y'all killed that opening song! Had to replay it a few times cuz that was great!
My friend got this deck for me today as a late birthday gift didn't get to play it yet but was looking through it definitely some good cards in this precon
That was the most unhinged beginning to a command zone video…and I am HERE for it
i already have an Edgard Markov vampire deck and i feel this is the cheaper and more available version of it. id probably buy it if i didnt have Markov already ! i love vampires
That intro made me smile more than I have for a while at an intro
I thought they were missing the best part of the song in the beginning, then Josh kept it going 😂 I love that
I'm new to Magic and i want to get into Commander. I just put this deck on hold at my LGS. So excited to pick it up and play with it. Even though I'm still new this deck sounds like fun.
pre ordered this set, has great cards for my Elas il-Kor, Sadistic Pilgrim deck :)
the intro had no right being that good lmao, y'all knocked it out of the park
"Some people would kill to have their brand being an everyday verb"
It's said.
You're very right Josh
I am so happy. I have an Edgar Markov deck I’ve been trying to put an aristocrats package into. And so many of the cards in this just give that deck juice
I'm super excited for this deck! I have a Vito/Exquisite Blood mono black vampire deck currently and I'm excited to either finish perfecting it OR making a second vamp deck...and I've wanted a dino deck but haven't found one I liked yet so I'm hopeful for the precon
I’m getting this deck along with the merfolk and dinosaur decks and I’m so stoked!
You guys do an awsome job, thanks for the preview! :))
Vamps are really sweet in this, good job wizards
Carmen is a sac outlet. Sacrifice a cheap vampire (with a cool ETB) before the attack step, turn Carmen sideways, pull it back out of the graveyard, rinse lather repeat.
This is the only deck I preordered…feeling good about that RoI!😊
The guy who sang Bullet with butterfly wings occasionally refers to the song as "rat in a cage" in conversation because people get it quicker.
Noob question on Exalted (20:29):
Where does it say in the rule that you get a +1/+1 for EACH permanent with Exalted that you control?
From my reading of the Exalted rule on this card, the best it can get is a single +1/+1 to become a 6/6.
I don't see how multiple instances of Exalted each give multiple +1/+1 counters.
Might be the best intro (at least in a _loooong_ time) of the podcast of all time!😂
Gotta love an excuse to belt some Smashing Pumpkins!
Excellent addition to my convoke deck. That's right there are dozens of us!
The length of the intro song was elite. Commitment to the bit ❤❤❤
Have been debating building Orzhov deck... this makes the debate clearer haha! Elas il-Kor has been on my radar.
This is my favourite into, hands down, and it’s not even close. Jimmy not sure if you will see this but I thought you were hiding billy back there somewhere!
I've been intermittently singing Bullet for the last few weeks. Must be that season. Happy Holidays Drake and Josh! Keep up the good work. 🙏🏽😌🙏🏽
Is Elenda, the Dusk Rose printed in foil/etched?
THAT SINGING INTRO made my day
I absolutely love the flavor of Carmen as a commander. This looks pretty sweet all in all
She’s good but the face commander is way better for this deck
Best intro of the channel hands down
Oooo Elenda’s hierophant is going right into my Teysa Karlov deck!
Just rocked out to this intro so good dont stop guys keep it going!
Others may have already commented, but hierophant means priest or a priest-like figure. It’s a loanword from Greek. I’m sure there are contexts that differentiate a hierophant proper from a priest or a cleric, but priest is a “close enough” gloss to give you a point of reference.
Needed this intro guys. Thanks!! 😁
One thing that should be noted about Charismatic Conqueror is that it's an ETB trigger, meaning your opponents can tap mana rocks in response and still get the mana when they play them.
This card will probably only matter for creatures that are needed on defense, or that have haste.
Edit: Actually maybe if you do tap it for mana, then you can no longer "pay the cost" of the trigger and then your opponent will get a 1/1 anyways. Not sure about that rules interaction
In that case you would get the 1/1 because they aren't able to fulfill the cost imposed by charismatic. So it's not too bad.
Easily the best intro yet
I already own an Orzhov Aristocrats deck and I am still going to be buying this deck
Edgar’s metal band is definitely going to be covering the hit song:”march of the canonized!
It would be nice if during the stat breakdown you guys quickly went through (or just showed on screen???) which cards you're counting in which category. Hard to know with the ramp in this deck if you're counting the sneaky white stuff or not
Certainly refreshing to see a good precon here.
damn, you were just gooooooing at the start.
Great one :D
That was the greatest intro ever.
the reprints in this is practically my edgar markov deck minus red lol! i might grab this for the new cards tho, could be some solid upgrades
the singing was REALLY good this time
Damn dude best intro yet!!
Very interesting precon. I was working on a Grixis vampire deck but I may like this better.
20:30 This is the kind of convoke cards that should be designed. Since convoke is terrible if you're behind, and an uncomfortable choice at best if you have the board state to utilize it, the reward needs to be worth it. Zephyr Singer is another example of a reward for locking down your board.
Ok this is the best opener of any video!!!!
1:10 you never know how much you miss their terribly beautiful singing until you get hit with it
Heirophant is kind of a teacher, but has a cultlike feel. Knowing and teaching secret things.
To clarify, even though March of the Canonized mentions black, because it doesn't have a black mana pip means it is legal in mono-white decks, yes?
Definitely see a couple new vamps to go into my Markov deck.
You guys really need to start touring. That song was actually really really well done, I honestly felt like there didn’t need to be any background noise with jimmy causing such sweet rhythms.
It’s so funny. I have a vampire deck when crimson vow came out, built out of what was in it and most of it is what’s in this deck. I obviously use a different commander that’s black/red but almost all the cards I could play from this deck are in it.
My boyfriend is building a Karlov deck rn and this deck has PERFECT editions
What a _smashing_ intro !! 🎃 Great choice! Happy Halloween 🧛
Jimmy and Josh practicing for their future Smashing Pumpkins tribute band.
The reason the song is titled "Bullet with Butterfly Wings" is because a bullet with butterfly wings is harmless.
"Despite all my rage (bullet), I am still just a rat in a cage (harmless),"
Guys your musical opening are so funny, and sound quiet good. Greeting from France. Kiss all !
not been here for a long time
did not expect it to be a vampire precon video