2+ Hour of Banned Modern Cards To Fall Asleep to
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- Опубліковано 25 лис 2023
- Going over all the banned cards in the Modern format up to 2022 and mid 2023. With all background music removed from the original videos.
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(Just a note, we have people who actually know the game very well making the scripts for this channel. As the owner of the channel (Theduellogs/hirumaredx) is a total newbie to the game.) - Ігри
It's funny hearing cloudpost get a "soft no" when 12 post won cardmarket's best deck in the history of modern bracket (beating eldrazi winter in the finals) effectively without a sideboard
Eye of ugin and GSZ seem pretty big in that deck.
An incredibly flashy finish too, won by endlessly mentoring in Emrakul with eye of ugin, sacrificing it with the legend rule and taking infinite turns
I haven't heard anything past twenty minutes because I keep falling asleep
I guess that means it's working lawl
Hahahaha same for me
Then come back to this after you’ve had a sufficient amount of sleep and just woke up.
I watch these videos at least 5 or 6 times lol
watched the entire video without sleeping, similar to several 1 hour long videos(granted I watch all videos in 2x speed)
We live in a strange future, where discovering your art puts people to sleep is a ticket to lasting success.
Modern bedtime stories. Nothing strange or unusual about it.
can't wait for simian spirit guide. hope it's one of the earlier ones
i cant tell if this is satire or just excitement
It's actually the safest way to fall asleep. There's nothing possibly goes wrong.
Literally I'm high af it's 4:32 and I'm in my bed munching before sleep this Is perfect
Dread Return has been downshifted to Common and has found success in Pauper in the One Land Spy decks in that format. I could see Return getting an unban with the multitude of graveyard hate spells in Modern as well as the fact that Force of Negation is a response to it.
God, mental misstep was never not one of the dumbest cards ever printed. I have a real soft spot for phexian mana, since I started during the scars block, but it’s a really dangerous mechanic overall, as 2 life really isn’t an equivalent for 1 mana.
I know this is a comp but I still find it funny how Fury gets a mention in the Blazing Shoal segment since it just got banned
Modern is my jam man. I've been waiting for this one
Living end is actually really good against hypergenesis. When hypergenesis was the best deck living end was created to combat it because living end is really just an instant speed board wipe that gets around indistructable with upside. And even better after your opponent has emptied their hand with big threats.
Dude I was already asleep when the video started, thank you!
Preordain has actually recently been unbanned from Modern! So 1:00:15 is a bit outdated now unfortunately.
rewatching this before i go to bed for the 3rd time. don’t remember a thing about any of the cards
Had to watch in segments due to time. I'm not a modern player myself but lived this. You gave me good insight on how modern plays. I knew the fury ban reasoning and cards like KCI and mox Opal. What i didn't understand was banning pod (a strategy i live using in EDH).
This is a compilation video. These were already released in segments.
It's always nice when you wanna learn something and there's someone who makes a lot of consistently good videos on the topic
Thank you for this video your videos are GREAT to listen to while clocked in
Bro it’s 11:00 this came out right when I needed it
Welp...I guess WOTC disagreed with you on Ponder...
ty manalogs really appreciate your videos and all your effort on your videos they're reaaaaaally good tytyty
For Top I'd combine it's abilities into one, more commital, option that you can't (or don't want to) do every turn, and certainly can't do multiple times per turn. Have it pull three cards off the top of your deck, add SDT to the three, then you put one card into your hand and three back on top of your library in any order. It still doesn't net you any cards since it has to put itself onto your library in order to give you anything but itself, but it effectively costs 2 mana to 'check' now (since you have to play it and activate it every time), and you can't repeat it during the opponents turn. Add entering tapped to slow it down if needed.
I didnt know you had a mtg channel also! Thank god 😍
I was so confused when i heard hirumareds voice, what an insane crossover
You know, the turbosleep versions of these videos should have a really excited nerd telling you about his last super plays
Peak engagement vait thumbnail lol
For hypergenesis, you could make it so that if you cast it with non suspend methods it gets countered. This is a change that doesn't change what it does but prevents it from being cast through cascade.
Thanks. Awesome Video.
Peak sleepytime content my man 🤝
This is a really intelligent video - thanks a lot
Another interesting way to "fix" glimpse is to make it an ETB rather than a cast trigger.
"Creatures you control own have 'When this creature enters the battlefield, draw a card' until end of turn."
Or you could limit when to play it
"You can only play Glimpse of Nature if: your opponent took damage this turn/as your second spell this turn/in your post combat main phase/ while eating a banana" etc.
Or give it a good ol Serra Avenger nerf.
Additionally, you could increase the mana cost, but...
Make it 10 mana, but 9 are phyrexian colorless
Make it 1 mana to cast, but you must pay life/mana per draw
Must sacrifice a creature to cast
Up the cost but give turn 4 options, ie G5+ delve
Anywho, back to sleep.
An ETB trigger is significantly more powerful than a cast trigger. It's not like you're going to counter all the Elves in a Glimpse turn. But now it counts tokens and creatures blinking and entering from various places (which often involve no mana).
Hey! 2nd place Zur here. Awesome video, glad you thought the deck was cool and I'm hoping that more people give old man Zur a chance! I mostly had OoT in as a board clear for emergency situations. I did take it out replacing it with a much needed counterbalance. Also took out Lavinia, honestly more hurt than help but eh, what can you do lol. You live and you learn.
25 minute mark is the most replayed part of the video. Goes to show most of us fall asleep by that mark. Neat.
thank you for this. truly.
thank you for the awesome video
Keep these long vids coming 🙏🏼
Hypeegenius could be fixd by add ing the following line after the suspend cost but before the main effect.
This card has a converted mana cost of 4
30:35: The biggest problem I've seen with Mox Opal is that it fixes broken mana bases so that players don't need to dedicate card slots to doing that. My proposed change would eliminate (or minimize) the manafix while retaining the properties as shown of a mox.
Mox Opal - (0)
Legendary Artifact
Metalcraft - (⤵): Add (◇), or one mana of any color a non-land artifact you control could produce. Activate this ability only if you control three or more artifacts.
I actually fell asleep watching youtube and when i opened the app this morning this was the video 😂
Amazing!!!!🎉
Another thing about once upon a time is that it kinda made decks more consistent by going around the minimum of 60 cards in once deck rule, ofc it does count towards it, but as its free and gives you a selection over what youd draw from it, it felt like playing a 56 card deck instead sometimes, which imo is broken af!
16:55 - it's easy, just errata that effects like Cascade don't trigger on cards that don't have a mana value
Nice channel !👌🇵🇹
I think it’s important to mention that the elves deck gains an INCREDIBLE amount of resources from its combo, so even if it doesn’t combo kill you, just the card advantage they gain off glimpse gives them a real fair plan AND the option to combo. Both together is very scary.
Making misstep be 1 phyrexian + 1 mana absolutely and totally kills the card. Minor misstep exists and that card is not good. 2 phyrexian blue could be an option - removes the “I play misstep to counter my opponents missteps” issue, and 4 life starts to be a more serious cost.
I think the best fix to jitte is requiring it to be equipped to activate abilities. Being able to just remove counters to kill something doesn’t make much sense and is a nice nerf
Depths also isn’t a close unban afaik. Most modern no banlist tournaments have quite a few depths decks making good finishes. The issue is how much discard you get access to, and how easy it is to assemble the combo alongside it multiple times
I think something really interesting about treasure cruise is not just that “blue decks would be too good”, it’s that “decks would warp themselves to splash blue just for treasure cruise”. It just is that good and is universally applicable.
Important part of looting in decks that aren’t all in on the graveyard is that the 3 mana mode is AMAZING for later in the game - it turns lands you don’t need into spells in your hand.
Appreciate this sleeping video. Will enjoy the next 7ish minutes
Wait, why would you use open fire as the comparison to bolt instead of lightning strike?
Ah, that is you, hirumaredx … happy to find you over here in MTG land too :)
My friend puts banned cards into his decks and we all play its honestly crazy
I'm loving this, now seeing the spoilers and leaks of Modern Horizons 3. The reasons some of these are banned are plastered on so many cards coming out soon
Not sure if this is doable in the rules, but as to how to theoretically fix Hypergenesis without ruining the intent of the card:
"If this spell was cast from exile while one or more time counters were removed from it this turn, starting with you, etc. etc. etc."
That way, unless you are doing some hyper-specific interaction that I can't think of off the top of my head, the only way to cast Hypergenesis is either through its native suspend ability or with something that exiles it with time counters like The Tenth Doctor or Delay. Not even Alaundo the Seer would let you cheat the card with his ability because no time counters are being put onto the card, so you'd never be able to "remove the last time counter" and cast it.
I knew I recognized your voice hahaha the wow content was so good
Mox opal could get a passive ability that says "whenever mox opal becomes tapped, sacrifice an artifact""
Has Wizards considered limiting the amount of cards able to be played for stuff like the Artifact Lands? Like you're restricted to only 1 of each specific colour of artifact land? That way they're still all "unbanned" but still limited in the amount in a way.
Hey now, Rite of Harmony is seeing play in Selesnya Enchantment decks in Standard! Don't be a hater 😢
30:14 artificers mox can only spend the mana on artifact spells and abilities i think that could be alright wouldn’t be able to activate urzas saga
Glimps would be fine we don't have cradel and removal is a lot stronger than it uses to be
I would be interested in seeing them reverse the tops abilities costs, but even then a free order 3 every turn for 1 mana is a card I'm super unsure about. But the amount of fetches in the format makes me think it might still need to be nerfed beyond that since it's never dead.
So maybe make it only look at 2 would be interesting.
I disagree with the notion that Dark Depths cannot be unbanned.
There are a lot of ways to deal with Dark Depths currently present in the format.
Channel Boseiju, targeting the Dark Depths.
Cast Solitude
Petty Theft
Prismatic Ending the token
Proactively play Blood Moon/Magus of the Moon
Channel Otawara, targeting the Marit Lage token
Even One Ring can give you a whole turn. A 20/20 isn't much scarier than anything else when One Ring loops are just making combat irrelevant.
I'm not saying that the deck would be weak. It still is close. But the means of dealing with the deck are already all over the format.
I think the lack of a Swords-level card outside of Solitude in modern is probably the tipping point-if there were one more good cheap instant that could remove it, perhaps.
Also, there’s a not-insignificant number of cases where you won’t get a chance to interact with Marit at sorcery speed.
@@laurelkeeper Reasonable enough points. I can extend the idea that perhaps the hold out (other than cards not getting unbanned unless it would be a net positive) is the lack of one more swords-like instant. I really do think it's close though. But you might be right.
@@stormcrow4202 it’s also notable that since the combo pieces are lands, they’re immune to hand disruption, which is something other decks can’t say.
@@laurelkeeperwhat about path to exile or leyline binding?
No cap this actually works to fall asleep to
Imo in a dredge deck or graveyard strat, or storm and izzet phoenix, faithless looting might as well read as draw 4 for 1 red, which is just unfair
Right after I first started playing Magic, before I knew any strategy, I thought Treasure Cruise and Dig Through Time were awful. Boy, how wrong I was.
I would like to see WotC give Modern a restricted list. For example, I think the Mirrodin artifact lands would be fine to use if limited to one per deck.
That just turns Modern into "who draws the one copy of the strong card."
With the mycosynth lattice, I also see leonin abunas making it way too powerful, contributing to its ban as well.
Lool i didn't even read the title fully cause i was tired and wanted to sleep to this
There are a few problems in your assessments, in my opinion (as someone whose expertise is in Modern because it's the only format I cared about playing)
-Twin wasn't about being a turn earlier than Kiki-Jiki. Twin RARELY would go off on turn 4. It was a tempo deck first and foremost. It would run out your resources through tempo and control, and then it would combo. The deck has more tools and toys to play that tempo game in Unholy Heat and Counterspell proper. Twin is a soft maybe.
-Pod can't come off the list right now because of cards like Omnath, Siege Rhino (the card that's responsible for it being banned), and Questing Beast. It also has new toys that make it combo faster. Corridor Monitor makes it a HARD no. That makes a whole turn cycle faster. WotC also said that they wanted to create better creatures, and they have.
-P Fire is easily one of the worst cards on the banlist as of right now. Even with Fury being banned, x/1 and x/2s aren't very prevalent, and graveyard hate is prevalent in almost every deck in the format, through maindeck or sideboard. It wouldn't be near oppressive. Playing Grove is not free in a majority of decks either, where it's hit by various Moons, and it's a liability in life gain, where having to use two or more in a turn negatively offsets any upside.
-Jitte is absolutely not a problematic card anymore. Legacy D&T stopped playing it because it's really not worth playing anymore. Just because it sway combat doesn't automatically mean it'll ruin. Removal has gotten a lot better, and even with Fury gone, it doesn't impact things as much. No deck in the format wants a Jitte, unless it's like Hammer for the sideboard. Even coming in off of a Stoneforge, it's a 4 mana investment. The card just isn't up to snuff for Modern anymore.
-KCI was banned not just for rules complexity and time, but also in how hard it was to interact with the card, since Pithing Needle and Sorcerous Spyglass can't interact, and even Split Second doesn't deal with it (Krosan Grip) because Mana Abilities are free from the Split Second ability restrictions. It became a whole format of playing around the deck, and things like Surgical Extraction and even Extirpate couldn't stop it because of triggers.
I agree with a majority of the statements made, but some of these needed to be addressed or added.
Misstep could say; U; you may cast this w/out paying its mana cost if you control a basic island. That would fix a lot about what’s broken about it. No turn zero counters and could only play it in blue heavy decks and make them play some fair lands in their mana bases to run the card.
Do I get the job wizards??
Wizards??
i literally fell asleep to it
nice
for suspend cards: if wiz ruled that their suspend cost counted as their CMC, then they would be less broken.
Everything you said about gataxian probe applies to talents in Yu-Gi-Oh right now which is pretty funny
Watching after the fury ban hits different 😅
another issue with glimpse is that its a cast trigger, not an etb like beck//call and rite of harmony.
So a counterspell can fold a sequence
It can't with glimpse, that's the bigger issue here
Dont you just counter the glimpse then?
I love OnMath decks. so good
13:12 last card on todays video? but it only just started. you must have 2 hours worth of stuff to say about that 1 card
Still holding out hope for twin
So Fury and Up the Beanstalk have been banned, and Preordain was unbanned - idk if three cards are enough to make a video out of, but it might be worth doing.
Jo are you theDuelLog with the same Kind of ygo videos?
Gitaxian Probe is literally just Pot of Greed.
Mental Misstep Fix would make the card unplayable. We already have Minor Misstep and the card doesn`t see any play, which mental misstep would be a worser edition most of the time
3:41 You somehow totally neglect the abundance of exile-based removal in white; easy enough to effectively interact with Dredge. I appreciate this video. Modern is my format.
Me, just getting ideas for Commander decks...
Why not just make chrome mox etc count as a land drop for that turn?
Combat isn’t used in most formats.
All I use is creature combat decks
Preordain was unbanned this year
I don't know when you recorded this but preordain was unbanned in modern
What if the artifact lands had a "only 2 maybe be played"
I literally fall asleep tonight and i dont even understand anything in magic, guess it worked
I feel like glimpse decks would just be destroyed by scam and beans
literally fell asleep to this
KEEP EM COMMIN
This man's voice should be reading books on audible. Pleasant tone while also having the ability to read the script with relative cognition. Fr make an audible style of reading books. Like reading a play outloud. The video is nice but you can easily listen without watching.
Edit** this is asmr listening. Rare ability my guy
If we unbanned every single one of the cards in this video, what would the best deck look like in modern?
One of the recent 1k no ban modern tourneys was basically two yorion pile decks 1st and second place with uro, omnath, field of the dead, then elves, the rhino deck and artifacts. Most of these playing deathrite shaman and oko as well. The meta in that tourney was kinda interesting to read tbh
In the video, ( 1:15:16) you said valakut would me far too much.
Should have waited a week to make this video. We have a guaranteed Modern Banning update in 5 days. 😅
❤ 15:40
Glimpse of Nature could ask for G for every card already drawn with that effect during the current turn, so that it become increasingly costly (not including infinite kana combos, of course)
I feel like Im tripping and Ive heard your voice in Destiny videos before
Ily
Imagine a limited list
Why was Astrolabe banned? Because it's one mana. One mana is SO much better than two mana
Wait dredge is good in modern?
No mizzixs mastery?