He has had numerous conversations with Christians. I think God's got him on the hook. Just reeling him in. Keep praying for him, guys. I think he'll get there. Like Paul, I think he has a zeal for God without knowledge. Fortunately, he doesn't have Paul's hostility towards Christians. If he accepts the Messiah, he'll be such a force for the kingdom.
The key part about Shapiro's take on his faith was when he said "I keep the law as best I can". That means he failed. Without Jesus, Shapiro already failed. To keep the law is to reject its fulfilment by Jesus. The point of the Law was for Jesus to come fulfill it. To prove we cannot do it. Ironically, whoever denies Jesus has to abide by the law, which is unfulfillable by any man, and therefore condemned. Shapiro's faith condemns him, and he himself admits he tries to do his best, which is an admittance of his failure to keep it perfectly.
Debunking catholicism I'm more blessed than mary Proof = Luke 11:27-28 27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” 28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” AMEN and AMEN. _________________________ 1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach Paul allows bishops to get marry, but catholic church goes against paul. Now these catholic will give a Verses from 1 Corinthians7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Corinthians 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. Mic drop _________________________ Jesus said Matthew 23:9 9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. And also said Holy Father to Heavenly Father= John 17:11 11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are. Jesus said call no one Father but still catholics call *pope holy father. Sad _________________________ Whenever a catholic argue about mary being the mother of God Use this to defeat the argument. Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.” Matthew 12:46-50 46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” 48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”. Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.” John 19:26-27 26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. ( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards). By the way sarah is the mother of all proof=Galatians 4:21-26. _________________________ We should not pray to apostles Romans 1:25 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. Acts 10:25-26 25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.” Acts 14:15 15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them, Revelation 19:10 10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Revelation 22:8-9 8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things. 9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God." Colossians 2:18 18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26 26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession [a]for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. Hebrews 7:25 25 Therefore He is also able to save [a]to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles There is only one Mediator between God and men LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus. _________________________ Apostles are allowed to marry, 1 Corinthians 9:1-5 1 Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord. 3 My defense to those who examine me is this: 4 Do we have no right to eat and drink? 5 Do we have no right to take along a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas? If Peter (peter is cephas read John 1:42) the so called "first pope" was married, why does the catholic church doesn't allow "pope" to marry? _________________________ The so called vicar of christ/ pope/holy father Peter called himself a fellow elder in 1 Peter 5:1, and as per the qualifications of elder in Titus 1:5-9 the elder is allowed to get married; then why does the "pope" is required to be celibate and catholic? ( when Peter was neither celibate nor catholic). 1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple 2)He sank down while walking on water 3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan 4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times 5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven 6)Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear 7)Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles. 8) Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land), 9)David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit), 10)King Soloman messed up, 11) Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11). Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up) 12)The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up. 13)The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20 If these great people could mess up, why do you think the catholic church wouldn't mess up. ____________________________________ Galatians 4:21-26 21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar- 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children- 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all. Sarah is mother of all, Not mary..
One Jewish man said to another Jewish .man, "you must be born again." One Jewish man, Yeshua of Natzeret, told the Law keeping Jewish men who confronted him with these questions, "Unless you believe that I AM He, you will die in your sins. Indeed, you shall die in your sins." Johannan 8:34
@@mynameis......23 by whose authority do you have to interpret the scriptures? How do you know if you're interpreting them correctly? You quote scriptures and that is good, but for 20 years there was nothing written, and then for another 350+ years, the Church disagreed on the books that belonged in the canon of scripture. Scripture cannot be your only rule of faith. This is why Protestants have fragmented onto over 150 denominations. Protestantism is nothing more than modern Gnosticism in that it breaks away from the true Catholic Church of God, and believes it's own interpretation.
@@Thedisciplemike you surely know then that the Roman church was the one that divided from Eastern Orthodox church, technically making them the first "protestants". Reform in the body is always ongoing.
This interview was pivotal in my becoming a Christian. I had my first "ah ha" moment about the Gospel while listening. I immediately purchased and started reading a bible. But I'm glad you are challenging Barron on this particular claim. I am grateful to the Bishop for his evangelism and his guidance early on in my conversion, but I believe he is errant in some vitally important ways. I pray for both Shapiro and Barron.
@@ethankeating1644 , Please provide the documents where the Catholic Church teaches we lose our salvation if our works are not good enough... this is a false understanding... The Catholic Church teaches we are saved by the Grace of God working in Love... no work needs to be done for our salvation...
@@libertyresearch-iu4fy The Jews were looking for their Messiah before the 2nd temple was destroyed. There is no option for a Messiah coming after it if you understand the book of Daniel. This is really the push for building a new temple, hoping that this will cause Messiah to return. However they should read the book of Zechariah, Old Testament book, because they will ask where did you get the wound in your hands and he will answer, I got these wounds in the house of my friends. So those who know these things and are studying their scriptures and are receiving Jesus as Messiah. Have all believed yet, no, but it is happening. And the zealous Jews have not been able to stop these conversions.
I really want us all to pray for Ben. He’s done so many interviews in terms of faith. It seems like he could possibly be open to Christianity. I believe he would be a great voice for Christianity. His testimony would be great. Also I just really believe he would be an awesome brother in Christ and I would be so happy for him to have eternal life.
the concept that only Christians will have eternal life is not biblical. it is very well stated in the bible that certain people are called at this time. Yahshua said that "no one comes to me unless the father draws him( or her) and I will raise them on the last day. so, what happens to those who are not called at this time? I would not worry about Ben YHWH will take good care of him
if your statement about the law is true, then your "Jesus" is a liar. In Matthew, he states that the law will never be done away with. How do you reconcile your belief in the light of that statement?
Yahshua made it possible for us to obey the law by giving us a new heart. he states "if you love me you will keep my commandments," John tells us that the definition of sin is "the breaking of the law" so according to your doctrine of the law having been done away with, there is no sin if there is no law or else John is mistaken. So to follow your belief this statement becomes true the law has been done away with, john tells us that the definition of sin is the breaking of the law, no law, no sin, no sin, no reason for me to need your Jesus since I have no sin because YOU say the law has been abolished. Keep in mind that contradicts what Yahshua said and I take that the words of your Jesus are just not that important.
At a Valentine’s dinner at church, my husband was asked in a game- “if your wife became famous, what is she famous for?” And he answered “bringing someone famous/well known to Jesus”. And Ben Shapiro has been on my heart ever since. I’m a mini homestead and homeschool mom of 4 in Indiana. 😂 but it’s a good prayer and thought to hope someone reaches him. He’s powerful the way he is, imagine him knowing Christ.
I suspect he will be at the second coming. The same Christ that came and was rejected for our sake is the same Christ that will return again and fight for Israel specifically.
I have been listening to you almost daily for a little over a year, you will never know how much richer my walk with Jesus is because of your teachings. So kind, thoughtful, gentle, thorough and respectful in all you do on line. I have prayed for Ben Shapiro for years now, and , this was so interesting. God bless you, Mike, in your continued walk and commitment to the truth of the Bible. May your light continue to shine in you. God bless in all you do
Not if they follow all the laws of their original Covenant with God. God has never disavowed his original Contract with the Jewish people so I believe he will still honor it, as long as the Jew abides by all the original Covenant rules.
Only through FAITH in Jesus The bishop still gives credit to Jesus for unbeleivers salvation but... scripture clearly says were Saved by Grace through Faith in Jesus. You cannot be saved without Faith or grace like the bishop said.
J.D. Hague Unfortunately, most Catholics do not know their scriptures, Barron knows what clergy knows, they study church history and laws and stuff like that but do not know scriptures.
Nathan Vani No, the doctrine which the assembly is based of is the pillar and foundation of truth for the church. The assembly of believers need to be following precepts and doctrine that do not change through the ages or like it has happened, it deviates from its course.
Just a terrific vid, huge fan of Ben and Mike! The whole time I was watching this I kept thinking how much fun it would be to have Ben and Andrew Klavan watch this and then have a chat. As a Christian gentile, I’m fascinated by how thoughtful people can read and understand the Bible so differently. Keep up the good work Mike and may God continue to bless you and your ministry.
Jesus called the Pharisees the sons of Satan. The law wasn’t created for salvation, but rather it was created so we could know of our mistakes because the Law exposes sin
Yeshua called Some pharisees sons of Satan, not all. Paul praises pharisees zeal for the law in Romans. The Law was given for Life based on God's reasons also. King David said the Law gives him Freedom. Revealing our sin is only One objective of the Law. Yeshua - jesus, reveals our sin also.../makes sense, since he's the word made flesh.
@@brianmichael7132 the Pharisees followed the law with unrighteousness, as contrary as that may sound. They did it for show, and had no love for God, nor did they even know God. The law is freeing, and through it there is true satisfaction. But it does not save, and condemns everyone. We should not try to make the law a part of our salvation. If I get to heavens gates and I’ve made my plan of salvation to be 99.9% Jesus and .01% my good works, i will go to hell. We only get in by the sacrifice of Christ. God bless
@@sovereigngrace9723 What exactly do you guys mean by works? In Revelations, it shows Jesus judging the sheep and goat, the judgement is shown to be pronounced based on works - feeding the hungry, covering the naked etc. Also parable of talents shows emphasis on works, so does the parable of the good Samaritan. To top it all, it explicitly states in the Bible that faith without works is dead. Jesus also says, "if you love Me you will keep My commandments". What does all of it show? Anyone can claim they have faith in Jesus but the faith is made evident in our works.
@@Subzero-hh8ix “if you love me, you will keep my commandments.” So if we are not keeping His commandments, then we need to check if we actually love Him, or if we are a false believer. It’s evidence.. Paul says in 2nd Corinthians 13:5 to check your faith to see if it’s valid.. it’s always possible to have a false faith, and good works are a product of real saving faith. So if we have good works in our lives, we can rest assured that we do have saving faith.
This was a pleasant surprise. I watched that interview and thought to myself, "man, I sure hope someone tackles this". I have a feeling that Ben sees Christian doctrine in a similar way to how we view the Papacy. Unfortunately Baron only succeeded in affirming Ben's proclivities. Let's all pray for Ben.
you have a GIFT of saying the deepest things with a lightness that wins over many would be opponents. just as some people say oh if only so and so would have been my high school teacher i would be a scientist or a historian so i am sure some people wish you were their first pastor full of truth and GRACE
I believe that Ben Shapiro should invite Mike Winger onto his show to have this religious discussion as he has done with several other religious teachers. I think I’ll suggest that on Ben’s UA-cam video comments.
I have been praying for Ben because I don't want him to lose Salvation because he gets wrong answers , he is seeking and probably knows he is, but at the same time is very stubbornly thinking He will have to give up something, when in fact he would be a completed Jew.
@@victoriahebert3073 Ben believes Gds covenant is everlasting and unchanging. Because that’s what Gd said. The Torah is the only thing we know for a fact is Gds word. Gd speaking to the Jews was witnessed by 500,000 Jews. Only faith in the world where Gd spoke to the whole people and not just one man. So I understand why Ben is sheepish on Christ. There were like 1,000s of versions of the gospels before they collected them all and combined them
@@andrewbradley3305 "there were like 1000's of versions of the gospels before they collected them all and combined them." Who collected them, from where? Who combined them?
@@richlisola1 I never said it was. Believing u can speak to invisible beings or a deity that created every thing in the universe….. including itself AND the universe, believing u can communicate through ur mind or mouth to these sc-fi fictional characters while hoping to live forever with someone u dont even know in a make believe after world, when said out loud or written in text….in my opinion…..sounds crazy. Hence the statement, u sound completely insane. Thats not saying the person IS, they just SOUND this way.
@@friedricengravy6646 what study have you taken to come to this conclusion? Genuinely curious. You have claims, i have mine. I believe theres a God who exists, that he came down in the flesh as Jesus the Christ, and through historical studies, archeological studies, and Jewish prophetic study, i cannot in good faith claim Jesus is not Lord, is Co-equal with the Father and the Holy Spirit as God, and died for our sins. Thoughts, opinions, and what are your own conclusions because like everyone i assume you have reasons for believing what you believe yes? Id enjoy a dialogue.
I was a Catholic and when I was younger I had a desire to become a priest. I asked God about it and he said no! Now I know why. I’m now a born again Christian and trust in Jesus and Jesus alone.
I’m actually curious if you were really talking to God as an unsaved Catholic. I thought unsaved people, at least after Paul’s Damascus road conversion, aren’t able to talk to God
Great video, thanks Mike, I love how you preach the gospel so clearly! Did you notice how Barron twists John 3:16? Instead of “that whosoever believes” he says “that we might find eternal life” - he leaves out the “believes” bit, which is kid of important!!
Also the rest of the passage, right!? That whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's only Son.
Exactly. But the thing is Jews don't believe Jesus is Lord and so they don't think the New Testament is valid so they still think they're under the OLD Testament. NO ONE is able to keep all those 600+ laws. Not a single human. If we're all still under the OLD Testament then we are ALL going to hell. There is no chance we are going to be saved! And it would show God isn't as merciful. Thank you God that Jesus is the way. Then all of us has atleast a chance, which means God IS truly merciful and forgiving of us.
I love your teachings Mike!! You are so scriptural sound and so dedicated like very few leaders. I pray for you and your family and protection over you all. Thank you for being such a Godly vessel, like very few today. Press on my dear brother in His Wisdom and humble love.
Mike I have no idea if we will ever meet here on earth, but when we are at home with our Lord I will surely give you a big hug! Great content, I agree with you 12832%
I can discern he's one of the most intellectually dishonest men on UA-cam. The question is by whose authority do you think your discernment to be more authoritative than mine?
Exactly. It’s basically if you feel you’re doing your best then you’ll get to heaven. Newsflash. Everyone thinks they are good and should go to heaven.
Hey, could the question regarding salvation be in part due to Ben's interview with John MacArthur, wherein Pastor MacArthur lovingly but firmly let Mr. Shapiro know that Christ is the only way to salvation? Hopefully it's been nagging at him all this time and he is searching for more! But being a lawyer, where does he go to find a kumbaya, "feel good" religious loophole? A Catholic bishop, of course. The Church keeps getting further away from the doctrine of faith in Christ alone as a requirement for salvation. I know because I was a Catholic convert for over 20 years and I've learned more about the saving grace of Jesus Christ in the month I've been watching Pastor Winger's videos than I ever did in my 2+ decades in the Roman Catholic faith. Keep up the good work, Pastor Mike. You're touching hearts and turning the unsaved towards Christ.
I totally understand. I left the catholic church in 2008. It wasn't until I left that I actually started learning. I always say I feel ripped off, all of those years, having never really learned scripture. My daughter asked me one time " why do you think you'll never see a Bible in a pew in the catholic church"? Because they don't want you to know scripture because then you'll know the truth and will start to question the catholic dogma.
I am a Born again believer. Who was raised catholic , but with a Lutheran Mom. So I am very empathetic, with my Catholic brothers and sister, when other "Christians ", throw stones. There are many, very faithful, humble people in those catholic pews. Not necessarily the priest or the teachers. But those quiet souls who, accept Jesus as their LORD & SAVIOR
Mike you are doing a great job of preaching the truth of the Bible in love. You don’t compromise to please others and unfortunately that is kind of rare in these days of trying to please everyone even if it means not staying true to the word of God. I pray your ministry grows and continues to reach more and more people with the great news of our savior Jesus Christ!
@@Trollaukinn Pretty sure that the point of the OP's comment is that Paul was considered a good Jew in the eyes of the Jews who rejected Christ, but he became one of the major people to spread the gospel to the gentiles.
Brother Mike. This is the most beautiful way I have ever heard this explained! What a witness to the unbelieving Jew and Gentile. And i want to thank you, as I am a Messianic gentile married to a born anew Jewish woman, how you make clear that the Gentile Christian does not know there Jewish roots. That is mine and my wife's heart to teach the Jewishness of the believers faith. The teach the Jewish holy days and show how Yeshua is in it all. Thank you again for your strong biblical teaching. Shalom and Blessings brother! 🙏🙌✡️✝️
Debunking catholicism I'm more blessed than mary Proof = Luke 11:27-28 27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!” 28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” In Luke 11:27 that random woman LITERALLY said Jesus your mother is Blessed, but are Lord Jesus LITERALLY said Believers are more Blessed than mary. Amen and Amen _________________________ CHRIST alone John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. Acts 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.” 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus _________________________ Work of God = John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.” _________________________ 1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach Paul allows bishops to get marry, but catholic church goes against paul. Now these catholic will give a Verses from 1 Corinthians7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Corinthians 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. Mic drop _________________________ Jesus said Matthew 23:9 9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. And also said Holy Father to Heavenly Father= John 17:11 11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are. Jesus said call no one Father but still catholics call *pope holy father. Sad _________________________ Whenever a catholic argue about mary being the mother of God Use this to defeat the argument. Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.” Matthew 12:46-50 46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.” 48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”. Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.” John 19:26-27 26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. ( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards). By the way sarah is the mother of all proof=Galatians 4:21-26. _________________________ We should not pray to apostles Romans 1:25 25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. Acts 10:25-26 25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.” Acts 14:15 15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them, Revelation 19:10 10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Revelation 22:8-9 8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things. 9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God." Colossians 2:18 18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, You cannot go to Father through saints nor mary, you can only go to the Father through Lord Jesus Christ= John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me. Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father. Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26 26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34 34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. Hebrews 7:25 25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them. It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles _________________________ There is only one Mediator between God and men LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus. Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance. Hebrew 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel. Hebrew 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. _________________________ Apostles are allowed to marry, 1 Corinthians 9:1-5 1 Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord. 3 My defense to those who examine me is this: 4 Do we have no right to eat and drink? 5 Do we have no right to take along a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas? If Peter (peter is cephas read John 1:42) the so called "first pope" was married, why does the catholic church doesn't allow "pope" to marry? _________________________ The so called vicar of christ/ pope/holy father Peter called himself a fellow elder in 1 Peter 5:1, and as per the qualifications of elder in Titus 1:5-9 the elder is allowed to get married; then why does the "pope" is required to be celibate and catholic? ( when Peter was neither celibate nor catholic). 1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple 2)He sank down while walking on water 3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan 4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times 5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven 6)Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear 7)Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles. 8) Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land), 9)David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit), 10)King Soloman messed up, 11) Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11). Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up) 12)The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up. 13)The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20 If these great people could mess up, why do you think the catholic church wouldn't mess up. ____________________________________ Galatians 4:21-26 21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar- 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children- 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all. Sarah is mother of all, Not mary. _________________________ Also the Church has many name like Christians, Evangelists, Children of God, Believers, servents of God, bride of Christ, but not once the Church is called catholics. _________________________ Also, if the apostles didn't wrote it, I don't want it. ....
Amazing as usual... I honestly still get surprised that I always watch a full hour of your preachings looking forward to the next one. Congratulations on 40k subs I also joined this year
Great Job Mike! You’re knowledge and work in the Word of God is inspiring and a breath of fresh air. Keeping preaching the truth in love like you’re doing brother!
That was Jesus' rebuke of the pharisees chastising him for sitting with unrepentant sinners. That Verse has nothing to do with justification, which Is in faith alone, not by works.
@@bradenglass4753 I think you misunderstood my point. I agree. And that was also Jesus' rebuke to the Pharisee for considering themselves righteous and so locking themselves out of grace by lack of repentence. This Catholic priest implies people will enter heaven on the basis of their righteousness but without repentance there is only pride and no salvation. God opposes the proud and gives grace to the humble.
I've heard Ben discuss the same thing with his Catholic coworkers before, and it comes across as Ben just proving that he knows their own scripture better than they do. If these "Christians" don't even believe Christ's own words, why should anyone listen to them?
LOVE your disclaimer starting at 02:11: "...answer to serious questions of life without being so scared of offending people, that we can't talk about truth anymore..." LOVE IT!
Great video again, Mike! I actually enjoy listening to Ben Shapiro's debates so much because he's so intelligent, so intelligent maybe there is hope he'll become a messianic jew someday. ;)
Did you watch his interview w John MacArthur? Towards the end MacArthur starts to witness to him and you could tell the Holy Spirit was working on Ben. With his platform, What an amazing witness he would be for Jesus!
Courtney, that's part of Ben's problem...his intelligence. He trusts in that, rather than the God of the scriptures. Read 1 Corinthians 1:26-31. God very seldom chooses people who are well esteemed in the world's eyes, in order for God to get maximum glory. But it's still worth praying for Ben and at least hoping that God may grant him repentance.
@@SuperExodus13 I hope not, Calvinist have a wrong understanding of God's sovereign and human free will. See Mike Winger, he is dealing with this topic.
@@fcastellanos57 I am a Calvinist. What exactly do they misunderstand? Especially since it's the historical teaching of the church all the way back to the apostles.
John MacArthur gave Ben a very beautiful presentation of the gospel. In fact it is what made me begin to listen to John MacArthur daily. The truth has been planted in Ben. I pray for him often that he comes to true faith in Christ Jesus.
I have pretty much every streaming service that I know of, as well as Att Uverse and Sirius radio .... and this UA-cam channel is my favorite of everything on all of them, thank you for many many reasons ❤️
Catholics do evangelize. But, not as much as they did earlier. Christianity spread around the globe by Catholic Missionaries, but then we found what was wrong there, so then Protestants went to spread Protestantism. It was somewhat easier for them though, because Core beliefs were similar, just a few doctrinal matters to revise or remove.
I Thank and Praise God for you Pastor Mike you have revealed so many truths to me. Thank you for your ministry it has helped me grow as a Christian in love for all, but standing on God's word!!!
Mike your ministry has opened my eyes to the truth..because of your UA-cam bible sermons it has brought me to read the bible and really know the bible and Christ. Coming from a Catholic background I have opened my eyes to my salvation threw Faith..Thank you
Thank you for your wonderful videos. I’m learning so much. I have friends who are Catholic, and family members, as well. You’re helping me to think about what I want to be able to say to them, and your use of 2 Timothy to remain calm and loving, and avoid quarreling and anger, has really helped me to take a breath before I speak. I’ve enjoyed watching Bishop Baron online as well, and your take on this dialogue was very illuminating.
I’m currently fighting with my father for leaving the Catholic church. I’m standing my ground for the sake of not going out of obligation for my children. I want to be a good example of following faith biblically. I went through some things growing up and had a priest tell me that in a basic sense, I wasn’t good enough to serve for the church as a single mom. So I said “see ya”. It’s very hard and I cry some days not knowing what to believe. I want nothing more than to just be able to understand the Bible but in Catholicism you don’t grow up knowing how to do that. There is no studying your Bible. Why can’t be as simple as following the Bible as best as a flawed human can and relying of faith in Jesus to get you through life? I think organized religion has done more harm than good in the world at this point.
I totally agree with you Maryssa!!! I too left but many years after beign born again by the Holy Spirit!! Like when I was 60 or so. But I was in the Bible reading and teachings from some excellent preachers on tv etc Yes ,,, you are perfect to do what God will lead you to do!!! I read that priests do not even study the Bible in Seminary but study like Aristotle or those ancient teachings that have no relevance to our Christian faith. Crazy... The Holy Spirit will encourage you , help you always through any difficult situation. Yes believe me God will equip you with His Words of truth!! The words of Gd will give you strength and joy and courage ,, they are ALIVE and can defeat the snares of the devil !! He must flee!!! You are on a very exciting journey my friend!!! Find a good Non denominational church if possible!!! I have snd the last 8 years learned so much and absolutely love going to my church family and sing and pray and share our life’s struggles snd hopes and be restored to go out into this scary world to share salvation truth to others and the love of Jesus!!! God is on your side and He will bless all you do and give you Holy Spirit as your guide!!! Trust in the Lord!!! He loves you more than anyone!!!!!
Maryssa, it is that simple. Believe Jesus is the Son of God and you will be saved. Believe he covered your sins in full and nothing you can do as works is good enough. You are saved by grace alone. The tricky bit is that, in accepting Christ you should naturally see, the holy spirit changing you, making your conscience more aware, helping you discern the right thing to do. Then, naturally, you will do good works and spread the gospel through your words and actions. That's how it works - you are saved by faith and, if your faith is genuine, that faith leads to good works. But faith saves you not works.
Maryssa, find a Bible based Christian church. I left the Catholic Church 3 years ago and I have learned so much about our Lord. I am a fruitful follower of Christ. Have never been so happy.
During the CoVid pandemic, I seriously wrestled with converting to Catholicism. I have a close friend who is converting. But it came down to the Gospel. Classic Protestantism gets it right, in my humble opinion. Bishop Barron is an example of an intellectual Catholic whose view of the Gospel is not clearly biblical. I don’t care what Vatican II says if it doesn’t align with what the Bible says. My hope and prayer is that modern Protestantism will recover what we have lost from Classic Protestantism.
Daniel Sell, Please have your friend do a HISTORICAL study on the RCC. He should not desire to start practicing catholic rituals and following things that Jesus was very much against. Please do a study on their practices which most came from pagan origins. Jesus said in Revelations, "Come out of her my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, that you receive not of her plagues. 18:4. You guys would be blown away if you studied who the Anti-Christ system is in this world, right down to the colors of their robes. Too important to ignore, God Bless
Great stuff as always Mike. I never grow tired of your videos. You stay very close to scripture and I've never seen you try to strawman opposite viewpoints but try to represent them as best as possible, speaking truth in love. I recently encountered the likes of Douglas Wilson and Dr White, Jeff Durbin from apologia and have been giving Calvinism a listen and find it very compelling compared to the evanjelly church I've grown up in. Your videos on the topic have helped me to see both sides of the aisle and I find you all to be very edifying. If nothing else you are pushing the truth of Christ above all and I find myself being convicted daily. Keep up the good work and God bless 🙏
A series focusing on how the old testsment prophecies were fulfilled with Jesus' coming (and all of the details of his time here) would be so great. Not only for Jewish people to ponder but I believe it's the best way to explain/backup our beliefs to non-believers. I've searched for a good series on this and can't find one anywhere.
Father Barron’s reply is both sad and unbiblical. Notice (as Mike did) that the first word out of Fr.Barron’s his mouth to answer Ben’s fundamental question of whether he (Ben) is in trouble, is “No”.then his very next words are, “According to Vatican II, ...” and he never tells Ben what the Bible says. This is, in a nutshell and in real time, all anyone needs to know about the Roman Catholic Church - that is, humans’ writings and thinking over God’s Word. It’s actually as simple as that. Too bad that a man who should be respected (Fr. Barron) is falsely witnessing to a non-believer and his audience. Thank you Mike for bringing this important and unfortunate episode to our attention and walking us through the Truth.
Don't forget that the short passage he is quoting from Vatican 2 has 4 Scripture references. I've never seen a Protestant book reference Scripture more often than does the Catholic liturgy or the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
@@cameronohearn Catholicism should proove their theology with the bible not the Vatican 2 that was "announced" by the pope (trying to play God) as recent as 1959. Come out from among her sincere Catholics and realise Jesus is the only way to the Father
@CameronO’Hearn you’ve never cracked open anything that wasn’t sold in your Church bookstore. Open your eyes and come out from that Harlot Church. The Catholic Church,the Orthodox Jews have MUCH in common. They both deny the Gospel.
The apostle Paul had something to say about Ben’s claim: *Ben:* “I feel like I lead a pretty good life (a very religiously based life,) in which I try to keep not just the Ten Commandments, but a solid 603 other commandments as well; and I spend an awful lot of my time promulgating what I would consider to be Judeo-Christian virtues, particularly in Western societies.” *Paul:* “Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law” (Romans 3:19-28 KJV). “For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in” (Romans 11:25 KJV). Praying for the salvation of the lost, that they would believe on the Lord Jesus Christ; putting their faith in Him alone as Savior; trusting in His finished work on the cross, in His Atonement, in His precious shed blood by which we are redeemed, the Gospel of our salvation: “how that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures; and that He was buried; and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures” (1 Cor. 15:1-4).
That was an outstanding witness. I must admit, at the start of the broadcast I knew you would appeal to the same verses I would have done to contrast with Barron's Ecclesiastical Vatican works/grace salvific combo, however the way in which you presented it in the context of reminding the Jew that it's his Messiah. We do well to keep that in mind. Bless you, Brother Mike
There was plenty of good Jews in Jesus's day.. it was clearly stated those who believed on Him can be saved. If there are other ways, why did Jesus have to die?! Why did God's sent His son to suffer so much and become a sin offering? It's like being in a maze, there is one exit route and a lot of dead ends.
@Peter Sz Jesus didn't have to die. Jesus chose to die to prove that he loves us. Beyond that, Bishop Barron is not saying that people can be saved apart from the grace given to us by Christ. He specifically said that the grace comes from Christ indirectly received. Think about Abraham, for example, who didn't know Jesus.
@@Tdisputations Yes you are correct, Jesus choose to die for our sins, obviously no one could force Him. He is God, what I'm trying to underline is that it was a painful sacrifice for our sins. He himself stated that no one can come to the Father unless through Him. As to Abraham he lived before Jesus was revealed as Messiah. There is a difference between that and a person living now after Jesus was revealed and rejects Him.
I don't think Roman Catholics would agree with the statement starting at 29:00 "If the Bible disagrees with bishop Barron, we should go with what scripture says. ... If the Bible disagrees with vatican two, we should go with what scripture says." I think this is the more accurate representation of the Roman Catholic (false) belief since they reject sola scriptura and adhere to sola ecclesia instead.
As a Catholic, with all due respect to Bishop Barron, I was rather disappointed with the way Bishop Barron answered Ben. The simple answer is that Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and without Him you can do nothing, and those who reject Him can not be saved (so, in other words, the way to answer Ben is to say, "You must believe in Christ to be saved!") According to Catholicism, the Bible has more authority than any statement from any Council, or statement from a bishop, for the Bible is the Word of God (that said, as Catholics, we believe that God will protect His Church from ever giving a DEFINITIVE teaching that is contrary to the Scriptures). I listened to about 20 minutes of this video, and I thought it was great; almost everything stated here from, oh, 10:00-30:00 was spot-on with AUTHENTIC Catholicism (and it was so because this presentation during the parts I watched was simply true to the Scriptures, and authentic Catholicism is Scriptural). Peace of Christ be with you.
@@alanbenander9158 Thank you for you honest comment. You seem very sincere and I am so thrilled because I have not yet met a Catholic that wants to hold scripture( the word of God) above the teachings of the church. You say that authentic Catholicism is scriptural. I recommend that you watch Fred Tarsitano on UA-cam. He has a whole series of teachings so I recommend you watch all in sequence and don't judge a book by it's cover, he is really a sweet, honest and logical person.Go through it all, give him a chance.He does comparisons of Catholicism, history and scripture. God bless and keep you. Keep studying the Word of God, it will lead you into all truth, and keep choosing the words of God above that of men.God bless😀
@@robinjoseph4949 Thanks, Robin. I'll try to set some time to look at that reference. As Catholics, we believe that Christ founded the (Catholic) Church and sent the Holy Spirit to protect this Church of His from error. So that, when Catholicism pronounced a definitive doctrine, we believe that the Holy Spirit is speaking through the Church of Christ (the Catholic Church) to give the authentic meaning of Scripture. Scripture and Church Teaching are not opposed. Rather, the latter simply gives a clear exposition of the authentic meaning of Scripture. And, also, it is through the Church (the Catholic Church) that we received the Bible itself. Peace!
@@robinjoseph4949 I've listened to the first talk of Fred. My initial impression is that he appears to have been a Catholic with rather poor catechesis or understanding of the Catholic Faith. For example, as an adult, he wonders why he'd have to trust in Christ as his Savior. Whereas, every Catholic, from a young age, is taught that Christ is Our Savior-- in fact, we often simply call Jesus, "The Savior". And we understand we give ourselves over to Him, and He gives Himself to us, through prayer and the Sacraments (Baptism, Confession, Communion, Confirmation). His understanding of Catholic soteriology was also very weak; he presents a complete caricature of Catholic teaching with such things as the "scales" of his good and bad works (whereas, sound understanding of Catholicism knows that one obtains salvation simply by union with Christ through grace). That he couldn't find a priest or bishop who didn't have an understanding of the Biblical foundations of Catholic teaching is utterly astounding, as any good Catholic theology book, or even the official "Catechism of the Catholic Church" itself, or a popular preacher like Archbishop Fulton Sheen or Dr. Scott Hahn (convert from being a Presbyterian pastor to Catholic university professor) provides such explanations. So, I know it's just the first video, but my take away from the first video is that Fred, for some reason, had no idea what Catholicism actually was (let alone was he able to see that Catholic teaching provides the authentic understanding of the Holy Scriptures). His understanding was, at best, a gross caricature of the real thing.
@@denominationsdontsaveonlyj8896 we must strive to follow the law, but we do not need works for salvation. If Satan is the accuser, Jesus is the perfect defense, any charge against the disciple will be refuted for we are justified by faith, if we rely on works then we will be convicted and sent to hell.
You are confused young man, you see, in order for Jesus to accomplish His Father's will He had to fulfill the law, every law including the 10 commandments...infact Jesus, (understanding He was fully God), added new laws...such as 'love your enemy and pray for your enemy'...true that we live by the new covenant, because we live by grace because of what Jesus did for us...the old covenant is still there but we are justify through Christ not the law...
@@peterrivera5784 my friend you are not reading your Bible , go to your search engine in the KJV and type keep the commandments or do the commandments and you will find we are to keep those.... In regards to Paul I can take you through all the lines that Paul tells us to keep the Law. Bottom line we receive salvation unto good works through faith in obedience...... any less and you shoot your self in the foot.
Bishop Barron is not a liar, but nowadays is intimidating to speak out. Maybe all these attacks against the Catholic Church that other christians and even within it do, has weakened our Shepherds and have chosen to bury their heads in the sand. But If Jesus himself was able to have some impact in Nicodemus to probably convert but not on the young rich man that obeyed the Law but didn't want to follow Him, Bishop Barron probably knows,Idk, that bc of the veil hasn't been removed, it is very difficult for a Jew, especially an orthodox one to convert, yet. That doesn't mean they haven't been any that have converted. Of course the opportunity to lay it out there was not necessarily taken. If a good Jew lives a morally and spiritually good life and have never heard of the Gospel but we don't know if in the next life the Lord will allow him the chance to accept Him as the Lord. Because it is mentioned in the bible that there's a sin that cannot be forgiven in this life nor the next. Idk if that is necessarily Ben's case of that opportunity or not, though. Only Christ knows Ben's heart, and Bishop Barron's, for that matter. Besides Bishop Barron is not just ANY person, but a sinner, flawed man, chosen by Christ, just like his predecessors the apostles, with CONSECRATED hands and life, to consecrate other few men to the service of Christ and the salvation of man.
@Kyle Skopec If you have not placed your faith in the Saviour then you are not saved. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever BELIEVES in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. You have to believe in him. Please repent of your heracy. God bless you
I feel like grace and works is like disease and symptoms. You are saved by grace, but works is a symptom, evidence, that you have been saved. Works do not save you, but they show evidence that you really have faith.
I appreciate Barron, but he shouldn't phrase it like that. When he said something similar I just had to make an odd grimase. It's hard to admit it, but I'm glad you exposes this.
As a Catholic who is fully aware of what the Church teaches, perhaps I can shed some light on Bishop Barron's response. The Bishop gave a highly nuanced *diplomatic* answer to the question; But if you dissect what he actually said, it lines up with what many Catholics and Evangelicals say on the issue. The bishop said that the Grace of Christ can extend to even the unbeliever *if* they follow their conscience. This implies the following things. 1) They are not freely rejecting God's free offer of grace. 2) They are faithfully being faithful with the Truth they have been given. When God reveals the fullness of Truth to them they will not reject it either. 3) God has not enabled them to be receptive to the Gospel; because he uses our conscience to lead us to the truth of the Gospel. It is also unfortunate that Shapiro mentioned keeping the commandments as if we can buy salvation from God. We cannot. God owes us nothing whether we say a rosery, pray the sinners prayer, or help an old lady across the street. Your faith can't buy salvation; your works can't buy salvation. God *gives* salvation to those who love him. And all who love him, *only* love in response to His love. That is everything is grace. To quote the great St. Augustine's observation of the Apostle Paul: “Nevertheless, lest the will itself should be deemed capable of doing any good thing without the grace of God, after saying, 'His grace within me was not in vain, but I have laboured more abundantly than they all,' he immediately added the qualifying clause, 'Yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.'" ~Augustine of Hippo, On Grace and Free Will
I don't know about Catholics, but I would hope that Evangelicals would run a million miles from the bishop's response. There is no other name (but Jesus) by which we must be saved. The Bible is clear and true...the Bishop was clear but very wrong in response to an important and simple question.
@@davidjennings1256 What other name was the Bishop saying we are saved by? By what name did God save Noah, Abraham, and Moses? Was it not the Christ? Is knowing the particulars a requirement for heaven? Just becuse we are saved by the new Adam (Jesus) doesn't mean we know the name of the one who saves us. God holds each man accountable for the faith He has given them. To some he has given one talent; to others 10. Who will be judged more harshly then the one who has the plenitude of the Faith?
@@eddardgreybeard did that happen as an infant? If so, when did you realize that you were? And when did you understand what that meant? How well do you think you are at doing that (following the commandments)? On what scale do you think God will grade you on? What did you think about what Mike said about being saved?
@@nicholastrudeau7581 Baptism is the fulfillment of circumcision, what Paul calls the circumcision of the heart vs circumcision of the flesh. And no, i was raised protestant so i was told baptism wasn't necessary as all prots read Christ's teachings through their absolutely botched understanding of the writings of Paul rather than read Paul according to Christ's teachings. IE baptism is absolutely necessary for salvation. I was baptized in 2022 at the age of 39. Confirmation comes later for those baptized as infants. I was confirmed the same day. Ps i think it's absolutely hilarious that protestants lift baptism up on such a pedestal that they argue it's absolutely inappropriate to baptize an infant but at the same time will never get one because it's not even necessary to have one. Also: while the Bible doesn't spell out in autistic detail that you can baptize infants (babies were circumcised, why weren't they dipped in water? Also, all babies throughout all Christianity were baptized, not just Catholic) it also doesn't say that baptism was absolutely withheld to anyone under the age of reason. And i do the best i absolutely can to live according to the commandments, Christ told all to go and sin no more. That was his command to all he forgave: go and sin no more. Also: you wouldn't have found a church anywhere on earth prior to the reformation that would've told you it wasn't necessary for salvation. After that, it was just protestant churches. Orthodox churches would've told you the same dang thing.
So at about 42:30 you say that the Gospel of Christ was about justification by faith... I am confused as to why you think this, because as far as I can tell on my current knowledge, whenever the early Church spoke of the Gospel they were referring to the life, death and resurrection of Jesus (and I think Jesus Himself was referring to the Kingdom of God coming, though what He meant by that requires discernment) ... it seems that “justification by faith” (which I’ve noticed people in mainline Protestantism often interpret in a way that I’m not entirely sure St Paul meant it) would be an implication of the Gospel and not the Gospel itself.
You produce really sound content, Mike. I've enjoyed your approach to rightly dividing the word of God for over a year. Keep doing what you do. God Bless!
“He himself is the sacrifice that atones for our sins-and not only our sins but the sins of all the world.” 1 John 2:2 (NLT) “For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.” 1 Timothy 4:10 (ESV) couple of uncomfy verses for the exclusivist crowds here
I am a Catholic and I really respect Bishop Barron as well - I remember watching this interview when it first came out and thinking that Barron's response was a little dodgy. First of all, the 'privileged' view is an odd way of putting it - I don't know that I would ever use that phrase... I think Barron was trying to place a very, very subtle *ton* of emphasis on 'can' - as in, it is not entirely impossible, that is, because only God can say whether Ben has truly heard the gospel or not, whether he really understands it or not, and or whether he truly willfully rejects it or not... That's what I hope Bishop Barron was going for - but again, Ben Shapiro seems like the type of guy who would have wanted a much more straightforward answer. Peace to all in Christ.
Lutherans really do believe that it is actually the body and blood of Jesus in the bread and wine. I was raised - baptized as an infant (in 1953, Nov. 27th) and was confirmed when I was a teen. Left the Lutheran denomination when I was in my 30's...I had always had a problem with the Lutheran teaching of infant baptism and their view of the ingredients of the Lord's Supper. I've been a Baptist longer than I ever was a Lutheran now. I'm going on 69. I was re-baptized in 1987. It wasn't until a couple of years after I was re-baptised, when I came across my infant baptismal certificate. Was very surprised to see that, as an infant, I was baptized on the SAME DAY!!! 💖✝️💖
@MikeWinger Mike I love you brother. The Lord uses you in mighty ways and has blessed you with wisdom and understanding, and i can see that in your fear of Him. I just stumbled upon this video and this is exactly how my church would answer it. I have a request for you to do a video on SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST and their beliefs. I am a seventh day Adventist and I want to see an honest review or interpretation of our church doctrines and beliefs. Please and thank you God bless.
Anyone can do something with "good intent" but that does not equal salvation and right standing with God. It also denies why Jesus had to come to pay the price to redeem us and that we have a choice to accept the gift.
I am Catholic, and I agree with your answer. I don't like the language of "privileged way." I prefer to talk about the "guaranteed way." However, by the same token, I would say that the reception of the Body and Blood of Our Lord in the Eucharist, is the ultimate guarantee, because it is tied to a very explicit promise of Christ: "whoever eats my body and drinks my blood will have eternal life and I will raise him on the last day." And I have no doubt whatsoever that Jesus fulfills his promises (He is God, He cannot lie).
As a Catholic I have to say that you slightly misrepresented what Bishop Barron was saying. He never said that Ben would be saved, but rather that he could be. He wasn’t saying this in a vacuum or in the ambiguity of the oft muddy waters of Vatican 2. All of Vatican 2 is supposed to be followed in accordance with the previous Tradition of the church. The Catholic Church in previous councils and across history has had no problem saying the Church was the only sure means of salvation. We called it “extra ecclesia nulla salus”. What Bishop Barron is saying follows with this, his “privileged path”, and the idea of an objective morality. When he says that someone earnestly following their conscience and/or religion can be saved if they do good he is not saying that person can be saved if they think they’re doing good. Only if they are doing it. And the big operative word there is CAN. Bishop Barron does not say God will save moral nonchristians. And V2 does not teach that God will save those that fully and knowingly reject Christ and His Church. I believe Matt Fradd has a good recent video on V2 and how it is to be followed.
Back when I was a catholic and a teenager, I knew a priest who once said to me something like, "If you think Christians are the only ones who will be in heaven, you'll be very disappointed." Which even at the time seemed to me like he had missed a few crucial doctrines. It seems that within the last thirty or forty years, clergy has been taught this kind of 'universalism' where everyone is probably going to be saved. Which seems to defeat the purpose of several doctrines. I didn't stay in the catholic church much longer after that.
I think Israel is a separate case. Christ isn't going to come back and fight for the U.S. He will fight for Israel, for His name's sake. The Jews are the chosen people. I think this is what Paul is getting at especially in Romans 11:25 and on.
"He's also an orthodox Jew. Many of you don't know that." Also not well known, his wife is a doctor.
THIS HAS ME CRYING
Classic! :)))
Hm yeah he's never mentioned that before...... 🤣🤣🤣
lol
And if you didn't know his wife is a Doctor. Don't worry, he will let you know like every other show. lol
Ask Ben for an interview. Literally the worst thing that can happen is that he says no. I will pray for you
I've tried asking him on his videos about that as well. If you get on the try as well. I think it's a great idea too.❤
Do it, Mike!
Send this to Ben. God wants him saved!
Yes!
He has had numerous conversations with Christians. I think God's got him on the hook. Just reeling him in. Keep praying for him, guys. I think he'll get there. Like Paul, I think he has a zeal for God without knowledge. Fortunately, he doesn't have Paul's hostility towards Christians. If he accepts the Messiah, he'll be such a force for the kingdom.
The key part about Shapiro's take on his faith was when he said "I keep the law as best I can". That means he failed. Without Jesus, Shapiro already failed. To keep the law is to reject its fulfilment by Jesus. The point of the Law was for Jesus to come fulfill it. To prove we cannot do it. Ironically, whoever denies Jesus has to abide by the law, which is unfulfillable by any man, and therefore condemned. Shapiro's faith condemns him, and he himself admits he tries to do his best, which is an admittance of his failure to keep it perfectly.
Very well said!
The Amazing Grace of God to hopeless wretched mankind through the death and resurrection of HIS Son JESUS CHRIST 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 Our only Atonement for sin!!!
Perfectly said Tyko 3…just perfect….teach on brother you need to be sharing that faith intellect with us scumbags
Already been commented, but I came here to say well said. Thank you.
Yes 100% true
I was raised catholic, became atheist and came back protestant. Its crazy how common this is.
Debunking catholicism
I'm more blessed than mary
Proof = Luke 11:27-28
27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!”
28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”
AMEN and AMEN.
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1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach
Paul allows bishops to get marry, but catholic church goes against paul.
Now these catholic will give a Verses from 1 Corinthians7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Corinthians 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. Mic drop
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Jesus said Matthew 23:9
9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
And also said Holy Father to Heavenly Father= John 17:11
11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.
Jesus said call no one Father but still catholics call *pope holy father.
Sad
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Whenever a catholic argue about mary being the mother of God
Use this to defeat the argument.
Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.”
Matthew 12:46-50
46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”.
Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.”
John 19:26-27
26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. ( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards).
By the way sarah is the mother of all proof=Galatians 4:21-26.
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We should not pray to apostles
Romans 1:25
25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Acts 10:25-26
25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.”
Acts 14:15
15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them,
Revelation 19:10
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
Revelation 22:8-9
8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things.
9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God."
Colossians 2:18
18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26
26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession [a]for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34
34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
Hebrews 7:25
25 Therefore He is also able to save [a]to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles
There is only one Mediator between God and men LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.
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Apostles are allowed to marry,
1 Corinthians 9:1-5
1 Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.
3 My defense to those who examine me is this: 4 Do we have no right to eat and drink? 5 Do we have no right to take along a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas?
If Peter (peter is cephas read John 1:42) the so called "first pope" was married, why does the catholic church doesn't allow "pope" to marry?
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The so called vicar of christ/ pope/holy father Peter called himself a fellow elder in 1 Peter 5:1, and as per the qualifications of elder in Titus 1:5-9 the elder is allowed to get married; then why does the "pope" is required to be celibate and catholic? ( when Peter was neither celibate nor catholic).
1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple
2)He sank down while walking on water
3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan
4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times
5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven
6)Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear
7)Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles.
8) Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land),
9)David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit),
10)King Soloman messed up,
11) Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11).
Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up)
12)The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up.
13)The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20
If these great people could mess up, why do you think the catholic church wouldn't mess up.
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Galatians 4:21-26
21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar- 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children- 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Sarah is mother of all, Not mary..
One Jewish man said to another Jewish .man, "you must be born again."
One Jewish man, Yeshua of Natzeret, told the Law keeping Jewish men who confronted him with these questions, "Unless you believe that I AM He, you will die in your sins. Indeed, you shall die in your sins." Johannan 8:34
This is the first time I've heard of such a thing
@@mynameis......23 by whose authority do you have to interpret the scriptures? How do you know if you're interpreting them correctly? You quote scriptures and that is good, but for 20 years there was nothing written, and then for another 350+ years, the Church disagreed on the books that belonged in the canon of scripture. Scripture cannot be your only rule of faith. This is why Protestants have fragmented onto over 150 denominations. Protestantism is nothing more than modern Gnosticism in that it breaks away from the true Catholic Church of God, and believes it's own interpretation.
@@Thedisciplemike you surely know then that the Roman church was the one that divided from Eastern Orthodox church, technically making them the first "protestants". Reform in the body is always ongoing.
This interview was pivotal in my becoming a Christian. I had my first "ah ha" moment about the Gospel while listening. I immediately purchased and started reading a bible. But I'm glad you are challenging Barron on this particular claim. I am grateful to the Bishop for his evangelism and his guidance early on in my conversion, but I believe he is errant in some vitally important ways. I pray for both Shapiro and Barron.
Eow
Praise the Lord! Thumbs up seemed so inadequate when the angels are rejoicing before the Throne of grace.
I'm so happy to hear you have the saving faith :) How are you doing now?
Awesome!
What were you before ?
I was raised Catholic and was lost as a rock. Praise God, I heard the gospel and understood that Jesus died to save me.......Praise God.
The Catholic Church believes Jesus died to save us, so what are you talking about?
@@morelmaster nicely said John. Very nicely said!!!!!!!
Take Care
and
GOD BLESS YOU 🙏😇
Steve
john mizak the Catholic Church teaches Jesus saved us but we lose it if our works aren’t good enough. Basically Jesus isn’t enough for them🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
@@ethankeating1644 Hey Ethan,
I think you need to read your Bible again. It WILL show you the truth!!!
God Bless,
Steve 😎
@@ethankeating1644 , Please provide the documents where the Catholic Church teaches we lose our salvation if our works are not good enough... this is a false understanding...
The Catholic Church teaches we are saved by the Grace of God working in Love... no work needs to be done for our salvation...
If following the Law was enough for salvation there would be no need for Jesus’s death on the cross. We would hVe no need of a savior.
Galatians 2:21
The Jews are still waiting for the true Messiah because they do not believe Jesus was the true Messiah.
@@libertyresearch-iu4fy The Jews were looking for their Messiah before the 2nd temple was destroyed. There is no option for a Messiah coming after it if you understand the book of Daniel. This is really the push for building a new temple, hoping that this will cause Messiah to return. However they should read the book of Zechariah, Old Testament book, because they will ask where did you get the wound in your hands and he will answer, I got these wounds in the house of my friends. So those who know these things and are studying their scriptures and are receiving Jesus as Messiah. Have all believed yet, no, but it is happening. And the zealous Jews have not been able to stop these conversions.
Great comment. I would add that it's also impossible for anyone to perfectly keep the law. Oh ya except for a proud few.
Thank you Joseph Prince. I mean thank you Prissy Lovejoy
I really want us all to pray for Ben. He’s done so many interviews in terms of faith. It seems like he could possibly be open to Christianity. I believe he would be a great voice for Christianity. His testimony would be great. Also I just really believe he would be an awesome brother in Christ and I would be so happy for him to have eternal life.
the concept that only Christians will have eternal life is not biblical. it is very well stated in the bible that certain people are called at this time. Yahshua said that "no one comes to me unless the father draws him( or her) and I will raise them on the last day. so, what happens to those who are not called at this time? I would not worry about Ben YHWH will take good care of him
@@patrickmerritt3663 moses law was only valid untill jesus death, now jesus is the only way
if your statement about the law is true, then your "Jesus" is a liar. In Matthew, he states that the law will never be done away with. How do you reconcile your belief in the light of that statement?
@@patrickmerritt3663 jesus is the only way after he died for our sins, no ther way to heaven but through him end of story
Yahshua made it possible for us to obey the law by giving us a new heart. he states "if you love me you will keep my commandments," John tells us that the definition of sin is "the breaking of the law" so according to your doctrine of the law having been done away with, there is no sin if there is no law or else John is mistaken. So to follow your belief this statement becomes true the law has been done away with, john tells us that the definition of sin is the breaking of the law, no law, no sin, no sin, no reason for me to need your Jesus since I have no sin because YOU say the law has been abolished. Keep in mind that contradicts what Yahshua said and I take that the words of your Jesus are just not that important.
At a Valentine’s dinner at church, my husband was asked in a game- “if your wife became famous, what is she famous for?” And he answered “bringing someone famous/well known to Jesus”. And Ben Shapiro has been on my heart ever since. I’m a mini homestead and homeschool mom of 4 in Indiana. 😂 but it’s a good prayer and thought to hope someone reaches him. He’s powerful the way he is, imagine him knowing Christ.
I pray Ben and his family will be saved through salvation in Christ.
I suspect he will be at the second coming. The same Christ that came and was rejected for our sake is the same Christ that will return again and fight for Israel specifically.
Amen 🙏
Amen
All people should be saved.
I have been listening to you almost daily for a little over a year, you will never know how much richer my walk with Jesus is because of your teachings. So kind, thoughtful, gentle, thorough and respectful in all you do on line. I have prayed for Ben Shapiro for years now, and , this was so interesting. God bless you, Mike, in your continued walk and commitment to the truth of the Bible. May your light continue to shine in you. God bless in all you do
Agreed
Only through Christ one can be saved, period.
God can forgive any one he wants, period. The Original Covenant is not dead.
Not if they follow all the laws of their original Covenant with God. God has never disavowed his original Contract with the Jewish people so I believe he will still honor it, as long as the Jew abides by all the original Covenant rules.
Only through FAITH in Jesus
The bishop still gives credit to Jesus for unbeleivers salvation but... scripture clearly says were Saved by Grace through Faith in Jesus. You cannot be saved without Faith or grace like the bishop said.
Yea and jesus christ saved the orthodox nation of Israel through his faith alone
Right but not by faith alone, did you get that from the heretic Martin Luther?
It's very telling that Barron doesn't refer to the Bible, but rather to a council.
J.D. Hague
Unfortunately, most Catholics do not know their scriptures, Barron knows what clergy knows, they study church history and laws and stuff like that but do not know scriptures.
The context is that Ben Shapiro is asking what the church teaches, so naturally the answer should come from.... an official church teaching
Nathan Vani
Which is not what the Scriptures teach.
@@fcastellanos57 Scripture teaches that the `Church`is the pillar and foundation of the truth (1 Timothy 3:15)
Nathan Vani
No, the doctrine which the assembly is based of is the pillar and foundation of truth for the church. The assembly of believers need to be following precepts and doctrine that do not change through the ages or like it has happened, it deviates from its course.
Just a terrific vid, huge fan of Ben and Mike! The whole time I was watching this I kept thinking how much fun it would be to have Ben and Andrew Klavan watch this and then have a chat. As a Christian gentile, I’m fascinated by how thoughtful people can read and understand the Bible so differently. Keep up the good work Mike and may God continue to bless you and your ministry.
Jesus called the Pharisees the sons of Satan. The law wasn’t created for salvation, but rather it was created so we could know of our mistakes because the Law exposes sin
Yeshua called Some pharisees sons of Satan, not all. Paul praises pharisees zeal for the law in Romans.
The Law was given for Life based on God's reasons also. King David said the Law gives him Freedom. Revealing our sin is only One objective of the Law. Yeshua - jesus, reveals our sin also.../makes sense, since he's the word made flesh.
@@brianmichael7132 the Pharisees followed the law with unrighteousness, as contrary as that may sound. They did it for show, and had no love for God, nor did they even know God. The law is freeing, and through it there is true satisfaction. But it does not save, and condemns everyone. We should not try to make the law a part of our salvation.
If I get to heavens gates and I’ve made my plan of salvation to be 99.9% Jesus and .01% my good works, i will go to hell. We only get in by the sacrifice of Christ.
God bless
@@sovereigngrace9723 What exactly do you guys mean by works? In Revelations, it shows Jesus judging the sheep and goat, the judgement is shown to be pronounced based on works - feeding the hungry, covering the naked etc. Also parable of talents shows emphasis on works, so does the parable of the good Samaritan. To top it all, it explicitly states in the Bible that faith without works is dead. Jesus also says, "if you love Me you will keep My commandments". What does all of it show? Anyone can claim they have faith in Jesus but the faith is made evident in our works.
@@Subzero-hh8ix “if you love me, you will keep my commandments.” So if we are not keeping His commandments, then we need to check if we actually love Him, or if we are a false believer. It’s evidence.. Paul says in 2nd Corinthians 13:5 to check your faith to see if it’s valid.. it’s always possible to have a false faith, and good works are a product of real saving faith. So if we have good works in our lives, we can rest assured that we do have saving faith.
They were legalistic and they were self righteous. They were not sons of Satan for following the law. The law was given to them ( by God)to follow it.
This was a pleasant surprise. I watched that interview and thought to myself, "man, I sure hope someone tackles this". I have a feeling that Ben sees Christian doctrine in a similar way to how we view the Papacy. Unfortunately Baron only succeeded in affirming Ben's proclivities. Let's all pray for Ben.
Amen. I'm praying for the priest too.
you have a GIFT of saying the deepest things with a lightness that wins over many would be opponents. just as some people say oh if only so and so would have been my high school teacher i would be a scientist or a historian so i am sure some people wish you were their first pastor full of truth and GRACE
I believe that Ben Shapiro should invite Mike Winger onto his show to have this religious discussion as he has done with several other religious teachers. I think I’ll suggest that on Ben’s UA-cam video comments.
I have been praying for Ben because I don't want him to lose Salvation because he gets wrong answers , he is seeking and probably knows he is, but at the same time is very stubbornly thinking He will have to give up something, when in fact he would be a completed Jew.
@@victoriahebert3073 Ben believes Gds covenant is everlasting and unchanging. Because that’s what Gd said. The Torah is the only thing we know for a fact is Gds word. Gd speaking to the Jews was witnessed by 500,000 Jews. Only faith in the world where Gd spoke to the whole people and not just one man. So I understand why Ben is sheepish on Christ. There were like 1,000s of versions of the gospels before they collected them all and combined them
@@andrewbradley3305 "there were like 1000's of versions of the gospels before they collected them all and combined them."
Who collected them, from where? Who combined them?
I've been praying for Ben for a long time. He's such a precious guy, and I want to spend eternity with him and his precious family.
U sound completely insane.
Are you praying for everyone else as well?
@@friedricengravy6646-Why is caring about someone and their family crazy?
@@richlisola1 I never said it was. Believing u can speak to invisible beings or a deity that created every thing in the universe…..
including itself AND the universe, believing u can communicate through ur mind or mouth to these sc-fi fictional characters while hoping to live forever with someone u dont even know in a make believe after world, when said out loud or written in text….in my opinion…..sounds crazy.
Hence the statement, u sound completely insane. Thats not saying the person IS, they just SOUND this way.
@@friedricengravy6646 what study have you taken to come to this conclusion? Genuinely curious. You have claims, i have mine. I believe theres a God who exists, that he came down in the flesh as Jesus the Christ, and through historical studies, archeological studies, and Jewish prophetic study, i cannot in good faith claim Jesus is not Lord, is Co-equal with the Father and the Holy Spirit as God, and died for our sins. Thoughts, opinions, and what are your own conclusions because like everyone i assume you have reasons for believing what you believe yes? Id enjoy a dialogue.
I was a Catholic and when I was younger I had a desire to become a priest. I asked God about it and he said no! Now I know why. I’m now a born again Christian and trust in Jesus and Jesus alone.
I’m actually curious if you were really talking to God as an unsaved Catholic. I thought unsaved people, at least after Paul’s Damascus road conversion, aren’t able to talk to God
Anyone can talk to God. He always listens when you seek Him!
Great video, thanks Mike, I love how you preach the gospel so clearly! Did you notice how Barron twists John 3:16? Instead of “that whosoever believes” he says “that we might find eternal life” - he leaves out the “believes” bit, which is kid of important!!
Danielle Rutkowski I caught that right away too!
Also the rest of the passage, right!? That whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's only Son.
I was raised Catholic and never heard anything about sharing faith with anyone. I came to faith and was born again in 1971.
Good grief, if all it takes for salvation is to be a “good Jew” then why on earth did Jesus have to suffer the cross?
Jesus said, Their is none good,but one, that is God.
Exactly. But the thing is Jews don't believe Jesus is Lord and so they don't think the New Testament is valid so they still think they're under the OLD Testament. NO ONE is able to keep all those 600+ laws. Not a single human. If we're all still under the OLD Testament then we are ALL going to hell. There is no chance we are going to be saved! And it would show God isn't as merciful.
Thank you God that Jesus is the way. Then all of us has atleast a chance, which means God IS truly merciful and forgiving of us.
I love your teachings Mike!! You are so scriptural sound and so dedicated like very few leaders. I pray for you and your family and protection over you all. Thank you for being such a Godly vessel, like very few today. Press on my dear brother in His Wisdom and humble love.
Mike I have no idea if we will ever meet here on earth, but when we are at home with our Lord I will surely give you a big hug! Great content, I agree with you 12832%
I cannot express how very much I appreciate your deferential, loving attitude in dealing with these difficult topics.
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Thank you so much for this. I can discern that you are genuine in your walk with God. God bless brother and keep up the good work.
I can discern he's one of the most intellectually dishonest men on UA-cam. The question is by whose authority do you think your discernment to be more authoritative than mine?
Sounds like universalism being presented when the Catholic Bishop was talking about the conscious.
Exactly. It’s basically if you feel you’re doing your best then you’ll get to heaven.
Newsflash. Everyone thinks they are good and should go to heaven.
Hey, could the question regarding salvation be in part due to Ben's interview with John MacArthur, wherein Pastor MacArthur lovingly but firmly let Mr. Shapiro know that Christ is the only way to salvation?
Hopefully it's been nagging at him all this time and he is searching for more!
But being a lawyer, where does he go to find a kumbaya, "feel good" religious loophole? A Catholic bishop, of course. The Church keeps getting further away from the doctrine of faith in Christ alone as a requirement for salvation. I know because
I was a Catholic convert for over 20 years and I've learned more about the saving grace of Jesus Christ in the month I've been watching Pastor Winger's videos than I ever did in my 2+ decades in the Roman Catholic faith.
Keep up the good work, Pastor Mike. You're touching hearts and turning the unsaved towards Christ.
Well... to MacArthur, the only route to salvation is to be one of the few God has chosen before the beginning of the world
I totally understand. I left the catholic church in 2008. It wasn't until I left that I actually started learning. I always say I feel ripped off, all of those years, having never really learned scripture. My daughter asked me one time " why do you think you'll never see a Bible in a pew in the catholic church"? Because they don't want you to know scripture because then you'll know the truth and will start to question the catholic dogma.
@@deannavaters35 I think you don’t know any better than your daughter.
@@gjshordja ?
@@annafirth6738 ? ?
I am a Born again believer. Who was raised catholic , but with a Lutheran Mom. So I am very empathetic, with my Catholic brothers and sister, when other "Christians ", throw stones. There are many, very faithful, humble people in those catholic pews. Not necessarily the priest or the teachers. But those quiet souls who, accept Jesus as their LORD & SAVIOR
Inspite of what the RCC believes and teaches.
Amen 😊
Mike you are doing a great job of preaching the truth of the Bible in love. You don’t compromise to please others and unfortunately that is kind of rare in these days of trying to please everyone even if it means not staying true to the word of God. I pray your ministry grows and continues to reach more and more people with the great news of our savior Jesus Christ!
Very important. What is the verse? They heap up teachers that tickle their ears .(?)
Amen!!!
Wow. Apostle Paul was a "good Jew", too.
@@Trollaukinn
Pretty sure that the point of the OP's comment is that Paul was considered a good Jew in the eyes of the Jews who rejected Christ, but he became one of the major people to spread the gospel to the gentiles.
The very beginning sounds like your gonna tell a joke
... a orthodox jew and a catholic bishop walk into a bar.... lol. 😬🤪❤😆
Nathan Burgett mevtoo lol✅
Whew! I'm so glad to finally read down to this comment, was beginning to think it was something wrong with me! 🤪
Haha I thought the same thing.
And the bartender says...
And the bartender asks them, "What is this... Some kind of joke?"
Brother Mike. This is the most beautiful way I have ever heard this explained! What a witness to the unbelieving Jew and Gentile. And i want to thank you, as I am a Messianic gentile married to a born anew Jewish woman, how you make clear that the Gentile Christian does not know there Jewish roots.
That is mine and my wife's heart to teach the Jewishness of the believers faith. The teach the Jewish holy days and show how Yeshua is in it all.
Thank you again for your strong biblical teaching.
Shalom and Blessings brother! 🙏🙌✡️✝️
I am beginning to understand the bible leaps and bounds more than I could if it were just me reading it by watching your videos. Thanks Mike!
Debunking catholicism
I'm more blessed than mary
Proof = Luke 11:27-28
27 And it happened, as He spoke these things, that a certain woman from the crowd raised her voice and said to Him, “Blessed is the womb that bore You, and the breasts which nursed You!”
28 But He said, “More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it!”
In Luke 11:27 that random woman LITERALLY said Jesus your mother is Blessed, but are Lord Jesus LITERALLY said Believers are more Blessed than mary. Amen and Amen
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CHRIST alone
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Acts 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”
1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus
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Work of God =
John 6:28 Then they said to Him, “What shall we do, that we may work the works of God?”
29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.”
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1 Timothy 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach
Paul allows bishops to get marry, but catholic church goes against paul.
Now these catholic will give a Verses from 1 Corinthians7 to say that paul gave the advice to stay unmarried. But they will not tell you that the same chapter they quote says 1 Corinthians 7:28 "even if you do marry, you have not SINNED". The passage literally says "young women, young men" and a bishop is supposed to be a Church ELDER. Mic drop
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Jesus said Matthew 23:9
9 Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
And also said Holy Father to Heavenly Father= John 17:11
11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are.
Jesus said call no one Father but still catholics call *pope holy father.
Sad
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Whenever a catholic argue about mary being the mother of God
Use this to defeat the argument.
Luke 8:21 But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.”
Matthew 12:46-50
46 While He was still talking to the multitudes, behold, His mother and brothers stood outside, seeking to speak with Him. 47 Then one said to Him, “Look, Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak with You.”
48 But He answered and said to the one who told Him, “Who is My mother and who are My brothers?” 49 And He stretched out His hand toward His disciples and said, “Here are My mother and My brothers! 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”.
Mark 3:35 For whoever does the will of God is My brother and My sister and mother.”
John 19:26-27
26 When Jesus therefore saw His mother, and the disciple whom He loved standing by, He said to His mother, “Woman, behold your son!” 27 Then He said to the disciple, “Behold your mother!” And from that hour that disciple took her to his own home. ( Jesus basically said John is the son of mary, and mary is the mother of John from that time onwards).
By the way sarah is the mother of all proof=Galatians 4:21-26.
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We should not pray to apostles
Romans 1:25
25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
Acts 10:25-26
25 As Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him and fell down at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter lifted him up, saying, “Stand up; I myself am also a man.”
Acts 14:15
15 and saying, “Men, why are you doing these things? We also are men with the same nature as you, and preach to you that you should turn from these useless things to the living God, who made the heaven, the earth, the sea, and all things that are in them,
Revelation 19:10
10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “See that you do not do that! I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren who have the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.”
Revelation 22:8-9
8 Now I, John, saw and heard these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed me these things.
9 Then he said to me, “See that you do not do that. For I am your fellow servant, and of your brethren the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God."
Colossians 2:18
18 Let no one cheat you of your reward, taking delight in false humility and worship of angels, intruding into those things which he has not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
You cannot go to Father through saints nor mary, you can only go to the Father through Lord Jesus Christ= John 14:6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
Ephesians 2:18 For through Him we both have access by one Spirit to the Father.
Holy Spirit intercedes for us=Romans 8:26
26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
And CHRIST as well=Romans 8:34
34 Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.
Hebrews 7:25
25 Therefore He is also able to save to the uttermost those who come to God through Him, since He always lives to make intercession for them.
It's Christ and Holy Spirit who intercedes for us not apostles
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There is only one Mediator between God and men LORD Jesus Christ= 1 Timothy 2:5
For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.
Hebrew 9:15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
Hebrew 12:24 to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.
Hebrew 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.
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Apostles are allowed to marry,
1 Corinthians 9:1-5
1 Am I not an apostle? Am I not free? Have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord? Are you not my work in the Lord? 2 If I am not an apostle to others, yet doubtless I am to you. For you are the seal of my apostleship in the Lord.
3 My defense to those who examine me is this: 4 Do we have no right to eat and drink? 5 Do we have no right to take along a believing wife, as do also the other apostles, the brothers of the Lord, and Cephas?
If Peter (peter is cephas read John 1:42) the so called "first pope" was married, why does the catholic church doesn't allow "pope" to marry?
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The so called vicar of christ/ pope/holy father Peter called himself a fellow elder in 1 Peter 5:1, and as per the qualifications of elder in Titus 1:5-9 the elder is allowed to get married; then why does the "pope" is required to be celibate and catholic? ( when Peter was neither celibate nor catholic).
1)Peter was not perfect human nor was he a perfect disciple
2)He sank down while walking on water
3)Our Lord said to peter get behind me satan
4)Peter reject our Lord 3 times
5)Our Lord rebuked Peter for calling fire from heaven
6)Our Lord rebuked Peter when he cut of the soilders ear
7)Paul rebuked Peter for being hypocrite because he was acting different in front of Jews and different in front of gentiles.
8) Moses messed up, and he was a important part of Bible ( that's why he never entered the promised land),
9)David messed up ( and he has the Holy Spirit),
10)King Soloman messed up,
11) Saul messed up and God regretted the decision (1 Samuel 15:10-11).
Hatrick (Saul then David then Soloman back to back messed up)
12)The apostles run away a day before Lord Jesus got locked up.
13)The early church messed up Rev 2:18-20
If these great people could mess up, why do you think the catholic church wouldn't mess up.
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Galatians 4:21-26
21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar- 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children- 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Sarah is mother of all, Not mary.
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Also the Church has many name like Christians, Evangelists, Children of God, Believers, servents of God, bride of Christ, but not once the Church is called catholics.
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Also, if the apostles didn't wrote it, I don't want it. ....
Amazing as usual... I honestly still get surprised that I always watch a full hour of your preachings looking forward to the next one. Congratulations on 40k subs I also joined this year
Annbell Mabiru wow he’s gained loads of subs in 1 year
Yeah, geez. He's quadrupled his subscribers since this comment? Impressive.
Great Job Mike! You’re knowledge and work in the Word of God is inspiring and a breath of fresh air. Keeping preaching the truth in love like you’re doing brother!
"I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." Luke 5:32
That doesn't mean anyone is actually righteous.
That was Jesus' rebuke of the pharisees chastising him for sitting with unrepentant sinners. That Verse has nothing to do with justification, which Is in faith alone, not by works.
@@bradenglass4753 I think you misunderstood my point. I agree. And that was also Jesus' rebuke to the Pharisee for considering themselves righteous and so locking themselves out of grace by lack of repentence. This Catholic priest implies people will enter heaven on the basis of their righteousness but without repentance there is only pride and no salvation. God opposes the proud and gives grace to the humble.
I've heard Ben discuss the same thing with his Catholic coworkers before, and it comes across as Ben just proving that he knows their own scripture better than they do. If these "Christians" don't even believe Christ's own words, why should anyone listen to them?
LOVE your disclaimer starting at 02:11: "...answer to serious questions of life without being so scared of offending people, that we can't talk about truth anymore..." LOVE IT!
Great video again, Mike! I actually enjoy listening to Ben Shapiro's debates so much because he's so intelligent, so intelligent maybe there is hope he'll become a messianic jew someday. ;)
Did you watch his interview w John MacArthur? Towards the end MacArthur starts to witness to him and you could tell the Holy Spirit was working on Ben. With his platform, What an amazing witness he would be for Jesus!
it'd be cooler if he became a Calvinist once he gets to a proper understanding of that
Courtney, that's part of Ben's problem...his intelligence. He trusts in that, rather than the God of the scriptures. Read 1 Corinthians 1:26-31. God very seldom chooses people who are well esteemed in the world's eyes, in order for God to get maximum glory. But it's still worth praying for Ben and at least hoping that God may grant him repentance.
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I hope not, Calvinist have a wrong understanding of God's sovereign and human free will. See Mike Winger, he is dealing with this topic.
@@fcastellanos57 I am a Calvinist. What exactly do they misunderstand? Especially since it's the historical teaching of the church all the way back to the apostles.
John MacArthur gave Ben a very beautiful presentation of the gospel. In fact it is what made me begin to listen to John MacArthur daily. The truth has been planted in Ben. I pray for him often that he comes to true faith in Christ Jesus.
I want Mike to be on Ben's show !
That would be good. Ben did have John Mcarthur on his show. It was really good. I pray Ben will be saved.
For what reason?
I have pretty much every streaming service that I know of, as well as Att Uverse and Sirius radio .... and this UA-cam channel is my favorite of everything on all of them, thank you for many many reasons ❤️
It’s mind-blowing to me how Catholic teaching can directly contradict Jesus Christ’s own words. 🤯
Thank you so much Mike!! You have taught me so much. God bless you.
The Bishop's answer explains why most Catholics never evangelize.
I’ve spent my entire life with Catholics who evangelize ... which is why I became Catholic
Catholics do evangelize. But, not as much as they did earlier. Christianity spread around the globe by Catholic Missionaries, but then we found what was wrong there, so then Protestants went to spread Protestantism. It was somewhat easier for them though, because Core beliefs were similar, just a few doctrinal matters to revise or remove.
@Ameer yeah with the choice to either believe or burn at the stake
I Thank and Praise God for you Pastor Mike you have revealed so many truths to me. Thank you for your ministry it has helped me grow as a Christian in love for all, but standing on God's word!!!
You were so happy to reach 40,000 subs. Look what God and you have accomplished. I am happy you are reaching so many people.
I know this was several years ago - just saw it and it was so well done. Love Mike's love of others while staying true to the Word of God. Jo
Nice. Looking forward to that. O Come Emmanuel and Hark the Harold are my favorite Christmas Carols.
How awesome would it be if Ben replied to this and publicly gave his life to Christ😢
Ha yeah right 😂
Mike your ministry has opened my eyes to the truth..because of your UA-cam bible sermons it has brought me to read the bible and really know the bible and Christ. Coming from a Catholic background I have opened my eyes to my salvation threw Faith..Thank you
Thank you for your wonderful videos. I’m learning so much. I have friends who are Catholic, and family members, as well. You’re helping me to think about what I want to be able to say to them, and your use of 2 Timothy to remain calm and loving, and avoid quarreling and anger, has really helped me to take a breath before I speak. I’ve enjoyed watching Bishop Baron online as well, and your take on this dialogue was very illuminating.
It took me literally 2 to 3 years to realize Ben wore a yamaka. It blends too well with his hair on camera.
Thank you. You have no idea how much I've needed videos like this. I've subscribed, dinged the bell, and look forward to looking through your channel
I’m currently fighting with my father for leaving the Catholic church. I’m standing my ground for the sake of not going out of obligation for my children. I want to be a good example of following faith biblically. I went through some things growing up and had a priest tell me that in a basic sense, I wasn’t good enough to serve for the church as a single mom. So I said “see ya”. It’s very hard and I cry some days not knowing what to believe. I want nothing more than to just be able to understand the Bible but in Catholicism you don’t grow up knowing how to do that. There is no studying your Bible. Why can’t be as simple as following the Bible as best as a flawed human can and relying of faith in Jesus to get you through life? I think organized religion has done more harm than good in the world at this point.
I totally agree with you Maryssa!!! I too left but many years after beign born again by the Holy Spirit!! Like when I was 60 or so. But I was in the Bible reading and teachings from some excellent preachers on tv etc Yes ,,, you are perfect to do what God will lead you to do!!! I read that priests do not even study the Bible in Seminary but study like Aristotle or those ancient teachings that have no relevance to our Christian faith. Crazy... The Holy Spirit will encourage you , help you always through any difficult situation. Yes believe me God will equip you with His Words of truth!! The words of Gd will give you strength and joy and courage ,, they are ALIVE and can defeat the snares of the devil !! He must flee!!! You are on a very exciting journey my friend!!! Find a good Non denominational church if possible!!! I have snd the last 8 years learned so much and absolutely love going to my church family and sing and pray and share our life’s struggles snd hopes and be restored to go out into this scary world to share salvation truth to others and the love of Jesus!!! God is on your side and He will bless all you do and give you Holy Spirit as your guide!!! Trust in the Lord!!! He loves you more than anyone!!!!!
It's all made up Maryssa. Don't give it much thought. Mike talked a lot, but he has suppossions, like with faith. Gotta show it exists. Baloney
Don't let a flawed "religion" run you away from Jesus! Religion won't save your soul, only Jesus can!
Maryssa, it is that simple. Believe Jesus is the Son of God and you will be saved. Believe he covered your sins in full and nothing you can do as works is good enough. You are saved by grace alone. The tricky bit is that, in accepting Christ you should naturally see, the holy spirit changing you, making your conscience more aware, helping you discern the right thing to do. Then, naturally, you will do good works and spread the gospel through your words and actions. That's how it works - you are saved by faith and, if your faith is genuine, that faith leads to good works. But faith saves you not works.
Maryssa, find a Bible based Christian church. I left the Catholic Church 3 years ago and I have learned so much about our Lord. I am a fruitful follower of Christ. Have never been so happy.
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me - John 14:6
Will pray for Ben's Conversion. I wish i could witness in my lifetime. Thank you Fr. for displaying authority of Church not just over the Bible.
During the CoVid pandemic, I seriously wrestled with converting to Catholicism. I have a close friend who is converting. But it came down to the Gospel. Classic Protestantism gets it right, in my humble opinion. Bishop Barron is an example of an intellectual Catholic whose view of the Gospel is not clearly biblical. I don’t care what Vatican II says if it doesn’t align with what the Bible says. My hope and prayer is that modern Protestantism will recover what we have lost from Classic Protestantism.
My friend Bishop Baron is a modernist. Please look into Fr. Ripperger and the FSSP, you will find the genuine teaching of the Catholic Church there.
Daniel Sell, Please have your friend do a HISTORICAL study on the RCC. He should not desire to start practicing catholic rituals and following things that Jesus was very much against. Please do a study on their practices which most came from pagan origins. Jesus said in Revelations, "Come out of her my people, that you be not partakers of her sins, that you receive not of her plagues. 18:4. You guys would be blown away if you studied who the Anti-Christ system is in this world, right down to the colors of their robes. Too important to ignore, God Bless
Pagan holidays like Christmas-When there is no Christ, no mass, and no birthday?
Those pagan holidays?
Thank you for doing this video. I had serious issues with the Sunday special and the non-biblically founded answers that the bishop provided.
Great stuff as always Mike. I never grow tired of your videos. You stay very close to scripture and I've never seen you try to strawman opposite viewpoints but try to represent them as best as possible, speaking truth in love. I recently encountered the likes of Douglas Wilson and Dr White, Jeff Durbin from apologia and have been giving Calvinism a listen and find it very compelling compared to the evanjelly church I've grown up in. Your videos on the topic have helped me to see both sides of the aisle and I find you all to be very edifying. If nothing else you are pushing the truth of Christ above all and I find myself being convicted daily. Keep up the good work and God bless 🙏
Ben's flabbergasted reaction after bishop's answer was priceless...
Pastor Mike that was beautiful! I wish Ben and you could have a heartfelt conversation on Christ.
A series focusing on how the old testsment prophecies were fulfilled with Jesus' coming (and all of the details of his time here) would be so great. Not only for Jewish people to ponder but I believe it's the best way to explain/backup our beliefs to non-believers.
I've searched for a good series on this and can't find one anywhere.
Father Barron’s reply is both sad and unbiblical. Notice (as Mike did) that the first word out of Fr.Barron’s his mouth to answer Ben’s fundamental question of whether he (Ben) is in trouble, is “No”.then his very next words are, “According to Vatican II, ...” and he never tells Ben what the Bible says. This is, in a nutshell and in real time, all anyone needs to know about the Roman Catholic Church - that is, humans’ writings and thinking over God’s Word. It’s actually as simple as that. Too bad that a man who should be respected (Fr. Barron) is falsely witnessing to a non-believer and his audience.
Thank you Mike for bringing this important and unfortunate episode to our attention and walking us through the Truth.
Don't forget that the short passage he is quoting from Vatican 2 has 4 Scripture references. I've never seen a Protestant book reference Scripture more often than does the Catholic liturgy or the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
@@cameronohearn Catholicism should proove their theology with the bible not the Vatican 2 that was "announced" by the pope (trying to play God) as recent as 1959. Come out from among her sincere Catholics and realise Jesus is the only way to the Father
‘Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord" shall enter the kingdom of heaven’ (Matt. 7:21).
@Dawn Stead Vatican 2 is Catholicism's proof with the Bible.
@CameronO’Hearn you’ve never cracked open anything that wasn’t sold in your Church bookstore. Open your eyes and come out from that Harlot Church. The Catholic Church,the Orthodox Jews have MUCH in common. They both deny the Gospel.
The apostle Paul had something to say about Ben’s claim:
*Ben:* “I feel like I lead a pretty good life (a very religiously based life,) in which I try to keep not just the Ten Commandments, but a solid 603 other commandments as well; and I spend an awful lot of my time promulgating what I would consider to be Judeo-Christian virtues, particularly in Western societies.”
*Paul:* “Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law” (Romans 3:19-28 KJV).
“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in” (Romans 11:25 KJV).
Praying for the salvation of the lost, that they would believe on the Lord Jesus Christ; putting their faith in Him alone as Savior; trusting in His finished work on the cross, in His Atonement, in His precious shed blood by which we are redeemed, the Gospel of our salvation: “how that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures; and that He was buried; and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures” (1 Cor. 15:1-4).
Plus Ben cannot keep the Torah without a temple and a priest.
@@dahelmang It's coming soon.
@@robertbrown6879 a sign of the last days. In the meantime it is not possible to obey God's law.
@@dahelmang Not 100% or perfectly. Jesus was the only one who did.
@@robertbrown6879 that's true too, even before the temple was destroyed nobody was able to keep the law.
That was an outstanding witness. I must admit, at the start of the broadcast I knew you would appeal to the same verses I would have done to contrast with Barron's Ecclesiastical Vatican works/grace salvific combo, however the way in which you presented it in the context of reminding the Jew that it's his Messiah. We do well to keep that in mind. Bless you, Brother Mike
I would LOOOOOOVE to see a conversation/debate between you, Pastor Mike, and Ben. God bless you.
He’s a much better debater than I am but I sure would love a private convo with him.
How sad for Catholics that they have teachers that lead into error like this man, Barron!
There was plenty of good Jews in Jesus's day.. it was clearly stated those who believed on Him can be saved.
If there are other ways, why did Jesus have to die?! Why did God's sent His son to suffer so much and become a sin offering?
It's like being in a maze, there is one exit route and a lot of dead ends.
Because Christianity is not true?
@@tzadiko Christianity is quite true. It is the one thing I am certain of. I trust in Jesus my saviour.
@Peter Sz Jesus didn't have to die. Jesus chose to die to prove that he loves us.
Beyond that, Bishop Barron is not saying that people can be saved apart from the grace given to us by Christ. He specifically said that the grace comes from Christ indirectly received. Think about Abraham, for example, who didn't know Jesus.
@@Tdisputations Yes you are correct, Jesus choose to die for our sins, obviously no one could force Him. He is God, what I'm trying to underline is that it was a painful sacrifice for our sins. He himself stated that no one can come to the Father unless through Him.
As to Abraham he lived before Jesus was revealed as Messiah. There is a difference between that and a person living now after Jesus was revealed and rejects Him.
Peter Sz Why does that difference matter?
I was really blessed by this, may others may also be
I don't think Roman Catholics would agree with the statement starting at 29:00 "If the Bible disagrees with bishop Barron, we should go with what scripture says. ... If the Bible disagrees with vatican two, we should go with what scripture says." I think this is the more accurate representation of the Roman Catholic (false) belief since they reject sola scriptura and adhere to sola ecclesia instead.
As a Catholic, with all due respect to Bishop Barron, I was rather disappointed with the way Bishop Barron answered Ben. The simple answer is that Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life, and without Him you can do nothing, and those who reject Him can not be saved (so, in other words, the way to answer Ben is to say, "You must believe in Christ to be saved!")
According to Catholicism, the Bible has more authority than any statement from any Council, or statement from a bishop, for the Bible is the Word of God (that said, as Catholics, we believe that God will protect His Church from ever giving a DEFINITIVE teaching that is contrary to the Scriptures).
I listened to about 20 minutes of this video, and I thought it was great; almost everything stated here from, oh, 10:00-30:00 was spot-on with AUTHENTIC Catholicism (and it was so because this presentation during the parts I watched was simply true to the Scriptures, and authentic Catholicism is Scriptural).
Peace of Christ be with you.
@@alanbenander9158 Thank you for you honest comment. You seem very sincere and I am so thrilled because I have not yet met a Catholic that wants to hold scripture( the word of God) above the teachings of the church. You say that authentic Catholicism is scriptural. I recommend that you watch Fred Tarsitano on UA-cam. He has a whole series of teachings so I recommend you watch all in sequence and don't judge a book by it's cover, he is really a sweet, honest and logical person.Go through it all, give him a chance.He does comparisons of Catholicism, history and scripture. God bless and keep you. Keep studying the Word of God, it will lead you into all truth, and keep choosing the words of God above that of men.God bless😀
@@robinjoseph4949 Thanks, Robin. I'll try to set some time to look at that reference.
As Catholics, we believe that Christ founded the (Catholic) Church and sent the Holy Spirit to protect this Church of His from error. So that, when Catholicism pronounced a definitive doctrine, we believe that the Holy Spirit is speaking through the Church of Christ (the Catholic Church) to give the authentic meaning of Scripture. Scripture and Church Teaching are not opposed. Rather, the latter simply gives a clear exposition of the authentic meaning of Scripture. And, also, it is through the Church (the Catholic Church) that we received the Bible itself.
Peace!
@@robinjoseph4949 I've listened to the first talk of Fred. My initial impression is that he appears to have been a Catholic with rather poor catechesis or understanding of the Catholic Faith. For example, as an adult, he wonders why he'd have to trust in Christ as his Savior. Whereas, every Catholic, from a young age, is taught that Christ is Our Savior-- in fact, we often simply call Jesus, "The Savior". And we understand we give ourselves over to Him, and He gives Himself to us, through prayer and the Sacraments (Baptism, Confession, Communion, Confirmation). His understanding of Catholic soteriology was also very weak; he presents a complete caricature of Catholic teaching with such things as the "scales" of his good and bad works (whereas, sound understanding of Catholicism knows that one obtains salvation simply by union with Christ through grace). That he couldn't find a priest or bishop who didn't have an understanding of the Biblical foundations of Catholic teaching is utterly astounding, as any good Catholic theology book, or even the official "Catechism of the Catholic Church" itself, or a popular preacher like Archbishop Fulton Sheen or Dr. Scott Hahn (convert from being a Presbyterian pastor to Catholic university professor) provides such explanations. So, I know it's just the first video, but my take away from the first video is that Fred, for some reason, had no idea what Catholicism actually was (let alone was he able to see that Catholic teaching provides the authentic understanding of the Holy Scriptures). His understanding was, at best, a gross caricature of the real thing.
Catholics adhere to prima scriptura not Sola ecclesia as far as I am aware
Bishop Barron needs to be evangelized!😢
Listening to your vid while watching the playoffs. Thank you mike!
Great teaching, straight from the Holy Spirit - Thank you!
This is so sad. That’s the blind leading the blind. We fall under the new covenant. The laws of Jesus Christ. Not the laws of Moses.
Bradley Willcox yes and still required to keep the commandments and the testimony of Jesus. We require to do good works.
@@denominationsdontsaveonlyj8896 we must strive to follow the law, but we do not need works for salvation. If Satan is the accuser, Jesus is the perfect defense, any charge against the disciple will be refuted for we are justified by faith, if we rely on works then we will be convicted and sent to hell.
@@logan3741 But, Salvation is only to those that obey so if you wilfully Sin the of Jesus has no effect for the “ believer”
You are confused young man, you see, in order for Jesus to accomplish His Father's will He had to fulfill the law, every law including the 10 commandments...infact Jesus, (understanding He was fully God), added new laws...such as 'love your enemy and pray for your enemy'...true that we live by the new covenant, because we live by grace because of what Jesus did for us...the old covenant is still there but we are justify through Christ not the law...
@@peterrivera5784 my friend you are not reading your Bible , go to your search engine in the KJV and type keep the commandments or do the commandments and you will find we are to keep those....
In regards to Paul I can take you through all the lines that Paul tells us to keep the Law.
Bottom line we receive salvation unto good works through faith in obedience...... any less and you shoot your self in the foot.
I wish Ben had interviewed you rather than that bishop/false teacher. He had a chance to give Ben life changing truth but lied to him!
@Kyle Skopec........ Exactly !! This Pastor here is a LAMB trying to express his " immature and Lamby opinion " which are pure shallow.
Bishop Barron is not a liar, but nowadays is intimidating to speak out. Maybe all these attacks against the Catholic Church that other christians and even within it do, has weakened our Shepherds and have chosen to bury their heads in the sand. But If Jesus himself was able to have some impact in Nicodemus to probably convert but not on the young rich man that obeyed the Law but didn't want to follow Him, Bishop Barron probably knows,Idk, that bc of the veil hasn't been removed, it is very difficult for a Jew, especially an orthodox one to convert, yet. That doesn't mean they haven't been any that have converted. Of course the opportunity to lay it out there was not necessarily taken. If a good Jew lives a morally and spiritually good life and have never heard of the Gospel but we don't know if in the next life the Lord will allow him the chance to accept Him as the Lord. Because it is mentioned in the bible that there's a sin that cannot be forgiven in this life nor the next. Idk if that is necessarily Ben's case of that opportunity or not, though. Only Christ knows Ben's heart, and Bishop Barron's, for that matter. Besides Bishop Barron is not just ANY person, but a sinner, flawed man, chosen by Christ, just like his predecessors the apostles, with CONSECRATED hands and life, to consecrate other few men to the service of Christ and the salvation of man.
@Kyle Skopec Do yourself a favour and read the Bible. Jesus is the ONLY way to heaven. What Barron just spoke was heracy
@Kyle Skopec If you have not placed your faith in the Saviour then you are not saved.
For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whoever BELIEVES in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
You have to believe in him. Please repent of your heracy. God bless you
Look how many deceived souls here.
The two verses that come to my mind are that "there are none righteous, no not one" and "all our good works (righteousness) are as "filthy rags".
I feel like grace and works is like disease and symptoms. You are saved by grace, but works is a symptom, evidence, that you have been saved. Works do not save you, but they show evidence that you really have faith.
I appreciate Barron, but he shouldn't phrase it like that.
When he said something similar I just had to make an odd grimase.
It's hard to admit it, but I'm glad you exposes this.
As a Catholic who is fully aware of what the Church teaches, perhaps I can shed some light on Bishop Barron's response. The Bishop gave a highly nuanced *diplomatic* answer to the question; But if you dissect what he actually said, it lines up with what many Catholics and Evangelicals say on the issue. The bishop said that the Grace of Christ can extend to even the unbeliever *if* they follow their conscience.
This implies the following things. 1) They are not freely rejecting God's free offer of grace. 2) They are faithfully being faithful with the Truth they have been given. When God reveals the fullness of Truth to them they will not reject it either. 3) God has not enabled them to be receptive to the Gospel; because he uses our conscience to lead us to the truth of the Gospel.
It is also unfortunate that Shapiro mentioned keeping the commandments as if we can buy salvation from God. We cannot. God owes us nothing whether we say a rosery, pray the sinners prayer, or help an old lady across the street. Your faith can't buy salvation; your works can't buy salvation. God *gives* salvation to those who love him. And all who love him, *only* love in response to His love. That is everything is grace.
To quote the great St. Augustine's observation of the Apostle Paul:
“Nevertheless, lest the will itself should be deemed capable of doing any good thing without the grace of God, after saying, 'His grace within me was not in vain, but I have laboured more abundantly than they all,' he immediately added the qualifying clause, 'Yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.'" ~Augustine of Hippo, On Grace and Free Will
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Faith=Salvation
Faith then needs to be lived out, if you are not living out your faith, your faith is dead.
That's it.😀
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I don't know about Catholics, but I would hope that Evangelicals would run a million miles from the bishop's response. There is no other name (but Jesus) by which we must be saved. The Bible is clear and true...the Bishop was clear but very wrong in response to an important and simple question.
@@davidjennings1256 What other name was the Bishop saying we are saved by? By what name did God save Noah, Abraham, and Moses? Was it not the Christ? Is knowing the particulars a requirement for heaven? Just becuse we are saved by the new Adam (Jesus) doesn't mean we know the name of the one who saves us. God holds each man accountable for the faith He has given them. To some he has given one talent; to others 10. Who will be judged more harshly then the one who has the plenitude of the Faith?
I was raised catholic and God saved my life through that vessel which is the church His Son founded. Saved my life
Thank you for sharing!
Could you share how you were saved through the Catholic church?
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You are born again in baptism.
And then you keep the commandments.
@@eddardgreybeard did that happen as an infant?
If so, when did you realize that you were?
And when did you understand what that meant?
How well do you think you are at doing that (following the commandments)?
On what scale do you think God will grade you on?
What did you think about what Mike said about being saved?
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Baptism is the fulfillment of circumcision, what Paul calls the circumcision of the heart vs circumcision of the flesh.
And no, i was raised protestant so i was told baptism wasn't necessary as all prots read Christ's teachings through their absolutely botched understanding of the writings of Paul rather than read Paul according to Christ's teachings. IE baptism is absolutely necessary for salvation. I was baptized in 2022 at the age of 39.
Confirmation comes later for those baptized as infants. I was confirmed the same day.
Ps i think it's absolutely hilarious that protestants lift baptism up on such a pedestal that they argue it's absolutely inappropriate to baptize an infant but at the same time will never get one because it's not even necessary to have one.
Also: while the Bible doesn't spell out in autistic detail that you can baptize infants (babies were circumcised, why weren't they dipped in water? Also, all babies throughout all Christianity were baptized, not just Catholic) it also doesn't say that baptism was absolutely withheld to anyone under the age of reason.
And i do the best i absolutely can to live according to the commandments, Christ told all to go and sin no more. That was his command to all he forgave: go and sin no more.
Also: you wouldn't have found a church anywhere on earth prior to the reformation that would've told you it wasn't necessary for salvation. After that, it was just protestant churches. Orthodox churches would've told you the same dang thing.
@@eddardgreybeardas a Lutheran I agree with you
So at about 42:30 you say that the Gospel of Christ was about justification by faith... I am confused as to why you think this, because as far as I can tell on my current knowledge, whenever the early Church spoke of the Gospel they were referring to the life, death and resurrection of Jesus (and I think Jesus Himself was referring to the Kingdom of God coming, though what He meant by that requires discernment) ... it seems that “justification by faith” (which I’ve noticed people in mainline Protestantism often interpret in a way that I’m not entirely sure St Paul meant it) would be an implication of the Gospel and not the Gospel itself.
The fact that the bishop quoted anything but the Bible to Shapiro and all tells you all you need to know
This is sad, people will think they’re gonna be ok without Jesus.
You produce really sound content, Mike. I've enjoyed your approach to rightly dividing the word of God for over a year. Keep doing what you do. God Bless!
“He himself is the sacrifice that atones for our sins-and not only our sins but the sins of all the world.” 1 John 2:2 (NLT)
“For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.” 1 Timothy 4:10 (ESV)
couple of uncomfy verses for the exclusivist crowds here
I am a Catholic and I really respect Bishop Barron as well - I remember watching this interview when it first came out and thinking that Barron's response was a little dodgy.
First of all, the 'privileged' view is an odd way of putting it - I don't know that I would ever use that phrase...
I think Barron was trying to place a very, very subtle *ton* of emphasis on 'can' - as in, it is not entirely impossible, that is, because only God can say whether Ben has truly heard the gospel or not, whether he really understands it or not, and or whether he truly willfully rejects it or not... That's what I hope Bishop Barron was going for - but again, Ben Shapiro seems like the type of guy who would have wanted a much more straightforward answer.
Peace to all in Christ.
Lutherans really do believe that it is actually the body and blood of Jesus in the bread and wine. I was raised - baptized as an infant (in 1953, Nov. 27th) and was confirmed when I was a teen.
Left the Lutheran denomination when I was in my 30's...I had always had a problem with the Lutheran teaching of infant baptism and their view of the ingredients of the Lord's Supper. I've been a Baptist longer than I ever was a Lutheran now. I'm going on 69. I was re-baptized in 1987. It wasn't until a couple of years after I was re-baptised, when I came across my infant baptismal certificate. Was very surprised to see that, as an infant, I was baptized on the SAME DAY!!! 💖✝️💖
That’s amazing!!
@MikeWinger Mike I love you brother. The Lord uses you in mighty ways and has blessed you with wisdom and understanding, and i can see that in your fear of Him. I just stumbled upon this video and this is exactly how my church would answer it.
I have a request for you to do a video on SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST and their beliefs.
I am a seventh day Adventist and I want to see an honest review or interpretation of our church doctrines and beliefs. Please and thank you God bless.
FOR THE RECORD: *Vatican II has no dogma.* Just because it is an ecumenical council does not mean it is infallible.
Anyone can do something with "good intent" but that does not equal salvation and right standing with God.
It also denies why Jesus had to come to pay the price to redeem us and that we have a choice to accept the gift.
I am Catholic, and I agree with your answer. I don't like the language of "privileged way." I prefer to talk about the "guaranteed way." However, by the same token, I would say that the reception of the Body and Blood of Our Lord in the Eucharist, is the ultimate guarantee, because it is tied to a very explicit promise of Christ: "whoever eats my body and drinks my blood will have eternal life and I will raise him on the last day." And I have no doubt whatsoever that Jesus fulfills his promises (He is God, He cannot lie).
This is very encouraging because God’s Word is true forever. Twisted truth will not stand. I’m encouraged to read the bible!
As a Catholic I have to say that you slightly misrepresented what Bishop Barron was saying. He never said that Ben would be saved, but rather that he could be. He wasn’t saying this in a vacuum or in the ambiguity of the oft muddy waters of Vatican 2. All of Vatican 2 is supposed to be followed in accordance with the previous Tradition of the church. The Catholic Church in previous councils and across history has had no problem saying the Church was the only sure means of salvation. We called it “extra ecclesia nulla salus”. What Bishop Barron is saying follows with this, his “privileged path”, and the idea of an objective morality. When he says that someone earnestly following their conscience and/or religion can be saved if they do good he is not saying that person can be saved if they think they’re doing good. Only if they are doing it. And the big operative word there is CAN. Bishop Barron does not say God will save moral nonchristians. And V2 does not teach that God will save those that fully and knowingly reject Christ and His Church.
I believe Matt Fradd has a good recent video on V2 and how it is to be followed.
I think it’s important to remember that Ben’s wife is a doctor.
Back when I was a catholic and a teenager, I knew a priest who once said to me something like, "If you think Christians are the only ones who will be in heaven, you'll be very disappointed." Which even at the time seemed to me like he had missed a few crucial doctrines.
It seems that within the last thirty or forty years, clergy has been taught this kind of 'universalism' where everyone is probably going to be saved. Which seems to defeat the purpose of several doctrines.
I didn't stay in the catholic church much longer after that.
I think Israel is a separate case. Christ isn't going to come back and fight for the U.S. He will fight for Israel, for His name's sake. The Jews are the chosen people. I think this is what Paul is getting at especially in Romans 11:25 and on.
I’m so grateful that u provide this info! It really helps clarify some of my confusion. Thank you
For by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified