How To Check If You Need A New Hybrid Battery Honda Civic Hybrid 06-11 Force Charge
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- Опубліковано 6 кві 2020
- This video shows you how to manually force charge your hybrid battery to the highest point possibly. This will help you figure out if you need a new hybrid battery or if a grid charger will fix your problem. Here are the steps to take:
Disconnect 12V battery (-) cable for 10 seconds
Reconnect 12V battery (-) cable
Start car
Allow car to charge IMA at engine dle. Do not drive.
Continue idling until charge stops.
Repeat 3 times.
Repeat every hour for 8-10 hours
The Honda Civic Hybrid 06-08 is the second worst Hyrbid Battery out there (second to only the 09-11 Honda Civic Hybrid). The battery cells often overheat, and lose charging capabilities.
When your battery gauge stops assist or charging The gauge behavior is described is a "negative recalibration".
It results from imbalance in the 132 cells in the battery. The pack is monitored in 11 places. One or more of the 11 voltages drops too low during assist. The car terminates assist, drops the gage to 2 bars at 1 bar per second.
It will then almost completely disable assist and begin force charging. After some time, one or more of the 11 voltages indicates "full" thus triggering a "positive recalibration" where charging is terminated, and the gauge goes to 8 bars at 1 bar per second. A positive recalibration does not always occur after a forced charge, but when they do, it indicates a very imbalanced and deteriorated battery.
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Thank you so much.
My Honda Civic IMA is from 2007 and has 160,000 km.
Lately the IMA battery did not keep the charge well, it charged quickly and discharged much faster.
I was thinking of changing the battery but I found your video and, after doing it only 3 times, the battery has improved a lot.
The car has power again and the battery lasts a long time. Also the average consumption has dropped from 6.6 L/100 km to 5.3 L/100 km, both in mixed city-highway consumption.
I hope it lasts a long time.
Thank you.
Thank you
I suggest u to convert the engine to 1.8
Hi, how do you manage to do that little consumption on your Civic? I have 2008 model 1.3 and it does 10 L/100km with is so high
Thank You- This is one of the most helpful videos on how to actually test this pack in a simple way. My 2007 would click over to the third bar and immediately jump to recalibrate. 2-3 is as far as it would go using this method. Our poor IMA condition (230,000km) had eventually caused the car to stall in really cold Canadian Winters. I wanted to be sure before spending the big bucks!
I decided to rebuild the pack with new sticks from China. After very detailed and tricky work (Note some mods were required to make original end caps fit) . After I installed my rebuilt pack. ...I put the 12v battery cable back on....and...Voila....the car kicked into charge mode (higher rev than standard 880 rpm idle). Well.... starting at 3 bars I let it sit and run while it slowly climbed to FULL BARS.... one friggging bar at a time!!! Not once did it recalibrate and jump around. Just saying....really happy and Very satisfied ....and you helped A LOT on the diagnosis...Thanks again.
I just bought a used with 190k for 2500, at that time it was giving me 26 mpg. After doing this I drove for 40 miles and im getting 42 mpg combined.. you are a saver man.
But I did procedure 5 times in one hr to a point where it charges full in 10 seconds, and Then hit the road. Couldn’t be happier 😊😊
looking into getting a used one as well seller says the hybrid battery not operating at 100% ... will i have to do this?
Is there any good/recommended place to buy a new or reconditioned hybrid battery for this car in the UK London area please?
Hi. Thanks for sharing this video. How Can I Found a charger for charging the hybrid battery?
Thanks Again
Excellent video, thanks!
If the battery is good and has no problems, how would it be after disconnecting the 12v battery's negative terminal? After starting the car would the white bars quicker or slower fill up! Can you by just removing the negative terminal once tell if the battery is good?
Do you know much about the 2014 Honda Plug in Accord? I purchased one and have been charging it at stations and the system says that it adds 1.7-1.8 KWh. I have read the batteries in these are 6.7 KWh. It leads me to believe that the battery is deteriorated enough that it’s not doing much good. I will charge the battery at home and a full battery on these are supposed to get 12-15 miles on a full charge and I’m getting maybe 4. What are your thoughts on this?
Where do you or what particular charger is needed to purchase for this?
Hello, I have a Honda Civic 2011 and have been to a repair service in Albania more than 20 times and they cannot find any solution. When I drive, the battery runs out and the car is off, sometimes the battery charges normally, for example after 2km is low and the car is off. What do you think is a battery problem or something else? Best regards
is doing this completely safe? Because my battery seems to act pretty good, i dont really have any issues but i feel like the 7th and 6th bar charge holds up pretty poorly, like it drops relatively quickly when i drive on the electric motor only, when the battery drops to 5th bar it stays on that level for a pretty long time of assisting. So im thinking about doing this process, will this improve the capacity?
Just did this after buying a used one from a private seller! It had 4 bars and after doing it only once got the full bars AND haven’t needed to do it again!
Is this still true?
So just to be clear! 3x in a row without a time gap once every hour or one time every 20 min. totaling 3x an hour?
Excellent, thanks!
Hey thanks bro this worked for me not sure how long it will last but thanks for the video. I was thinking to get a new battery but now im going to hold off. I would say these cars seem to be too expensive to fix becasuse they are only giving you 40 max in the city. You can get an old school gas corolla or civic to give you 30+mpg with no hybrid battery. If the batteries were much cheaper and the mpg was way better it would be worth it otherwise its a totaled car. Unless you have the skill, lots of time, dont mind the risk of killing yourself playing games with these batteries, oh and you need the equip. Worst of all you can have all that and still end up screwed.
Do you remember how long it lasted for?
should you first make sure the hybrid battery is charged to 100% full bars before doing this procedure? and why is recommended 3 per hour? can you do more than that? i'm also thinking of buying batteries on ebay but I'm afraid of getting scammed.
In my 2011 CR-Z ive got 8 bars..but i bought it with 7 showing on the meter...sometimes depending my driving it goes all the way up showing all 8 bars...but i usually got 6-7 bars showing steady and so it tell me its at 3/4 good ...lifespan on thoses are equal to the life of the car...so still got ways ...i have 150 k and still going good..🤙♥️
Sounds like your battery is in good condition!
Thank you for sharing this! My car’s IMA is on..I can’t get it inspected..theoretically if I do this, could it make the IMA go off?
It could although I’m not sure for how long it would stay off for.
Do I turn off the car after the 3rd time and do it again every hour? What's the reason for so many hours spaced out, can't go back to back 30 times?
Mine doesn't have any green bars in the charge area. There are 3 white bars above battery. Had a P07F code before but not anymore for some reason.
quick qn: How long do these IMA engine batteries last? thinking of buying myself an ''old'' 9year honda CRZ hybrid . Are the batteries expensive to replace?
They're $2,000 to get a high quality new one from Bumblebee batteries.
I just got a 2011 CR-Z. The battery is worn but it drives ok. When it does die I'll put in better than stock capacity and power lithium replacement and get more power and better economy.
Dont waste your money on a Hybrid. Imo they have too many electrical issues. I got a 06 civic hybrid.
Hey man! Cool video! Will that work for Honda insight 2009 the same way as with earlier gen Civic?
Yes it should.
@@karrskars IT ACTUALLY MAKES THE DIFFERENCE! Do I need to to it only 3 times per hour? or what would be the most effective way?
Can I do same in my Honda Insight Hybrid?
I did this 30 times and when i drove it i didn't get recal at all. When i tried how long i could drive with electric engine only i think the battery held the charge a bit longer but again as it was before doing this when it hit 4 bars i got a negative recal. Then i parked and charged the battery in L gear and it got up to 4 bars and i got a positive recal. Is my battery fucked?
Why are your keys in before restarting the 12v battery 01:01? I need to keep the keys on too? (2nd position)
I have recently purchased a Honda Civic hybrid that is 12 years old but has covered only 28,000 miles in that time. The IMA light came on the other day so that is when I started to investigate what might resolve the issue without straight away buying a new battery pack. I have carried out the procedure in your great video, over 10 hours as you recommend. So far the IMA light has stayed out for 10 days, and I notice that when the car has been standing overnight and I start up in the morning, the hybrid battery monitor reads 100% (8 bars), whereas previously it would read only 2 bars and take 5 minutes driving to reach 8 bars.
I'm not saying that my issue is solved, too early to say, but if the IMA light comes on again I'll get an OBD reader to lift any fault codes and go from there. If it's just a battery issue (and not a fault with the inverter/converter) I'll invest in a proper grid charger and cycle the battery pack a few times. If that doesn't help then a rebuilt battery pack using all new (not reconditioned) cells cost £1450 (around $1900) here in the UK. I'm guessing they use Chinese made NiMh cells as the original Japanese Panasonic cells are no longer in production. They come with a 3 year warranty, so worth the risk as the car looks and drives like new.
Yes a grid charger should work great for yours. Your batteries were likely not balanced correctly from the car not being used for long amounts of time. Glad it helped!
@@karrskars Thanks for your help. I went for a long drive today and still no IMA light. The battery, assist and charge indicators all seem to be reporting as they should and I'm getting 45mpg for mixed town and highway driving. I borrowed a friends OBD reader and run a scan for stored error codes. The scan found zero stored error codes so that's encouraging.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed and may buy a grid charger anyway as I think it's a good investment if your are running an ageing hybrid.
@@tsgcustomworld can you give an update now that it’s been a year?
@@tsgcustomworld ^^^ see above
@@alcopower5710 The hybrid battery finally died completely. I rebuilt the pack using all new cells from EnoCar. The car has been running like new for 8 months now. Hopefully I won't be posting again for a few years.
Thanks for sharing this . I did force charge today for 9 hours and it seems it holding the charge. Before I had 2 Bars before jumping to 8 then back to 2 after few mins. I drove 30 mins today, it did not drop much. Droped to 7 during 30 mins drive. Before I used to get 29mph after driving around 10 miles it's 39 Mpg.
How often should I do force charge ?
When you do the force charge do you keep the car of all they or stop it every hour
Did you drive in between or the car has to be sitting between 20 minutes
Say u done it then can u drive for 20 minutes and do again ??
Its temporary.The problem resurfaces again
I have a battery that was changed by honda in 2015 and it drove like 21k miles since then, but the car wasnt being driven that much for like a year and then i bought it recently. When i drive it the battery usually stays in 4-5 bars range, when i tried to force charge it in L gear it got up to 7 bars and went up instantly to 8, it took like 10-15 minutes. Do you think my battery is in good shape?
Hi, thanks for the video! My IMA light is not on, but my hybrid battery has only been working half the time lately. I've tried this 2 days in a row now. The first day I can't remember if it worked the second hour, but it did work the first. It worked 2 hours today, the battery does like it does in your video, hits 3 bars and then quits charging and the hybrid battery goes to full. However this is the 3rd hour now and the charging lights don't come on at all and the hybrid battery stays at one bar. Am I supposed to leave the negative terminal on the little battery disconnected for the whole hour, or is it supposed to be connected? Thanks!
You only leave the negative battery terminal off for 10 seconds to reset the computer and then hook it back on and turn the vehicle on and let it charge.
Would this trick work on my 2011 Honda CR-Z?
How many DC volts should I have coming out of the hybrid battery (going to the converter)? While the car is running
Between 170 and 200
Mine charge 2 bar then jump to 8 bar. What should expect after 10 hours cycle ? Will it charge & hold after 10 hours cycle ? At least a bit ?
Possibly. You could also just have a bad battery that needs reconditioned or replaced.
How do u do it with the 2012 hybrid sonata Hyundai
Bro wtf this shit took my whole ima engine light off😭😭😭 THANK YOU
Thanks! Im doing this right now. Is there a reason why we cant just repeat this 30 times repeaditely? Why is it only 3 times an hour? I still get 42mpg but i noticed it recalibrates every day after a night sitting within 2 minutes. After that it will not the driving that time
You can try that too. Just gives it time to cool off a bit. Check my other video on how to change your driving habits to get better gas mileage. I’ve found even on a brand new battery some people only get 35 MPG!!!! Because they pedal it to the metal 24/7. Just by changing driving habits you can up your mileage to over 60mpg easily enough (on a good battery).
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I’m looking at one of these 2008 with 265,000 for $2k. Seems like it’s in nice shape. Seller says everything is good. But I’m a little weary after watching this. Seller says he’s never replaced the battery, who knows if someone else has. What do you think?
Test drive it and see how it drives. Best way of knowing condition of the battery.
My car has 286k and runs great need. The battery needs to charge
Can the battery pack be bypassed? To allow the car to run off gasoline and a standard battery?
No it can’t. You’d have no power, might as well just drive it like it is.
Your MPG would improve if you were able to bypass a really bad pack but it cant be bypassed in this generation.
I tryed taking the battery pack out. This car dosent have a alternator. The electric motor is the alternator
So mine only shows one bar but it stops charging within 30 seconds and shows full batteries does that mean it’s good?
Unfortunately it didn't work for me it helped a little but thats all i m new to hybrid so i m not even sure if its normal or not i never get recalibrateing in town atall but when i drive over 50 mph Road i get recalibrateing all the time is this normal??
No it’s not.
Please help. I did this 3 times, the first two I got 3 bars filled, but now after an hour when I do it again it only fills 1 bar before filling all the way up. It took about 15-20 min for the first 3 charges and now only takes about 1-2 min to charge. Should I keep charging it
It’s not taking as much time because it’s already charged. So you’re just topping it off every time you do it thereafter.
So can we drive in between?? 3 times an hour do we have to do it once in 20 minutes or it doesn't matter??
If you drive in between it makes it go back to how it was before. If you continually do the charge, it will force charge it higher and higher and hopefully fix your battery
@@karrskars ok mate thank you i have done it but i drived in between i m going to try again without driving it thank you very much bud
My battery is 10 years old. 100000km done with this battery . My car wasn’t turning on today. Should I replace it? Or by doing this it will be ok?
If your car isn’t turning on it’s your 12v battery in the engine bay you need to replace or jump.
So I've got an 06 Honda Civic and I've had the car for 3 years 8 months into purchasing it I replace the hybrid battery but apparently from the reading and research I've done the car set off and on over the summer and now I'm having the IMA like come back on and my code reader is telling me that the hybrid battery needs replaced, I found this on UA-cam and I'm 6 hours and doing this test and when I started up the first time it charges for 41 seconds by a minute five it fully charged the second test it charges for 25 seconds 53 for a full charge and the last one is 15 seconds and the green charge lights go out and 45 seconds to get all eight bars showing fully charged
It’ll take less time each time you do it to fully charge. After you do it. Drive it and see how long it takes for the ima light to come back on.
37mpg is low? My modified element gives me at most half of that on the highway lol, I need a hybrid to commute to work, and leave the element for the weekends
Wait so.. this is a way to extend your hybrid ev battery life? Why are you disconnecting the starter battery ?
It resets the computer
I haven’t really been driving my car for 3 months. Now the battery light is on and won’t pass inspection. The person I got this car from last year said the battery was new. If the battery is good and recharges from doing this... will the battery light shut off immediately?
Yes it will shut off immediately. You never ever want to not drive your hybrid for months. That can ruin the hybrid battery. But if you recharge it or use it for awhile it should charge back up and be fine unless the battery wasn’t truly new
Karrs Kars thank you!
Just tried one cycle with mine. Battery was at zero bars, got up to 2 bars in about 15 minutes but then the green charging bars disappeared. Pulled the 12v battery and am trying again from zero bars. Second time it jumped up to full after only about 30 seconds when the green charging bars went away.
Now on the 3rd cycle of this and every time the battery starts at zero. How will I know if my attempts are futile?
What should I see to know it's in perfect condition can you tell me please??
Depending how much gas mileage you get you can kind of tell how good of condition the battery is.
@@karrskars I mean about the charging condition because after three times I did like you said its not charging at all now when I start it after disconnecting the battery for 10 sec is that good or bad ?
Hi, im jazz hybrid 2012 owner.. been using the car for about 9 years now.. overall gas milage is stil ok, no engine or ima light indication turn on.. izit advisible for me to do this?
Won’t hurt it. I would do it just to force charge it. Check my other videos because a lot of people don’t know how to get the most out of their hybrid car. It’s all about how you drive.
What mpg do you get with it? I’m looking at possibly buying one as I’m moving further from my work.
I have done this 3 times in one hour and then tried another 3 times for the next hour but the charging time decreases to less than a minute, do I keep doing this for 10 hours, even though it is only charging a minute each time?
It’s force charging each time. So even though most sticks are already charged, every time you do this after it will charge the sticks that aren’t fully charged and hopefully get them all in sync
I hope someone can help me...I have a honda insight 2011 the problem I had was the check engine light coming up after that the IMA light came up...I took it to the autozone to check the codes and it showed I needed to replace the vapor canister the thing is the IMA light doesn't show anymore..the next day I went to the autozone again to reset it to see if it'll come up...and it did this time the Engine light the IMA and the battery light came up I got so stressed I actually just put a scratch mark on my car as I'm parking back lol
Do you start the process when car is cold or hot ?
It doesn’t matter.
i have a 07 civic hybrid that was left sitting for 5 days and after turning it on my IMA light and batter light popped up. now ultimately it doesn’t even turn on.
Maybe your 12v is bad. I’d try jumping it.
I am doing this as I’m watching this video. It will charge to 3 bars and then go to full. I’m three hours in, taking 20 mins in between charges. The charging time is now super short. Like 2 mins or so. 😱 hopefully this works.
That’s how it’s supposed to be. Good luck!
did it work
@@onthedry8386 nope. Still having same issue. Haven’t decided if I’ll sell it or not, 220k miles. So difficult to commit to spend more on this car.
@@gustavocantu1794 i only buy honda i have my eye on a hybrid civic but all this stuff is putting me of its 2008 civic in great shape ..thinking i will stay away from hybrids. ... best of luck
@@onthedry8386 thats a good idea. this battery issue totals out the car if you think about it. most of those 2k batteries only have a 3 year warranty. its already 13 years old. And if you really think about it, why would you spend any money on a car that can only get you 45 miles to the gallon. There are good used cars now that can get you close to the same miles to the gallon. Much cheaper
Would you tell me what's that meaning now because it's stop charging at all like its full but its not i only got one bar of charge and its not charging any more
Probably need to fix your DC Inverter. It’s about 200 bucks.
@@karrskars do you have a video about changing it
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I have one in stock that works. Feel free to email me for price and other questions karrskars@gmail.com
Can i do this process only once or can i do it more than once
As many times as you need to.
Can someone please help 2009 Honda Civic hybrid owner. I was gone for a month so I didn’t drive my car for like 6 weeks and I came back and it wouldn’t turn on and the ima light and batter light was on so I took it to Honda after jump starting it and they told me the ima battery wasn’t responding and that the 12 volt was “leaking” so I got that replaced and he said the car had about 10,000 miles of life in it but the car drives fine will this help?
Nobody knows how long a car will last so ignore the 10k life left.
Does this work on a 03 Honda hybrid?
Yes it will
Does the battery still force-charge in neutral with a standard trans? Btw thanks for the informative vids. I bought a neglected 03 civic hybrid 5 speed for relatively cheap a few days ago and I’ve only done regular maintenance on it so far. It does have a nasty exhaust leak and a battery degradation fault code, but that doesn’t seem to keep it from running lol . Still on my first tank of gas since I bought it and I’ve driven it at least 350 miles!
Zacharia Zuehlke I followed the steps and the car running perfectly..
What if the green charge light doesn’t even come on?
Installed 12 volt battery charger ( china ) 40 Amp ,
in put from hv batteries
Do i keep my feet on gas pedal while charging??
You don’t do anything just let it charge.
What about newer models
Does this work for 05 Honda Civic
Same techniques should apply yes
Would this work for a Honda Insight?
It should
@@karrskars Should I do a deep discharge after this? If so, how do you recommend doing it
do you need to do this once a month , year , couple of times a year ? regards
If it helps, do it whenever you have battery issues coming back.
Is it good that when I turn my car on I get all 8 bars, but when I start driving it goes down?
Down to where?
@@karrskars the bars go down
@@karrskars helllo , hope your doing good , I have a question , I have the same issue , after 10
Minute drive my full charge goes to only 2 bars , it is normal ?, then it charge it until 4 and it goes full . Any idea ?? It happen everittime I drive :/
Did you consider 37 miles per gallon too low...??
I do yes. But it depends how you drive. I can regularly get 50 mpg driving but someone else in the same car can get 35.
Does this work on 2014 Honda jazz hybrid?
I don’t even know what a jazz is.
It's a Honda fit
Sad I sold my civic dirt cheap because this videos didn’t exist back then :(
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I did test drive Honda Civic 2007 and I noticed when stopped in traffic the motor continued to idle but didn’t stop is this normal for this Honda.anybody knows?
Usually that means your hybrid battery is failing.
The autostop should display
The first time I did it gave me 3-4 bars. Does that mean that my battery is almost 50 percent healthy?
No it just means it’s able and it’s force charge longer than some. So higher capacity.
You are awesome, thanks u a lot!!!@@karrskars
i changed my civic's battery pack from 2013 fit. but it charges only the 4 bar and then itself full fills completely when discharging it does same, it goes down to 4-5 bars and then discharges completely. so what's wrong with it? i have not ima or check engine light, but i think my batteries does not work as it should. i had 2 civic hyrbids and both had same problem.
That’s a recal. It means your batteries inside the pack aren’t in sync and you need to use a grid charger to fix it or rebuild it or replace it.
@@karrskars force charging as you showed in this video will not help it?
my 06 honda civic hybrid has 270k miles
mine acts like it’s about to start and then completely doesn’t turn on
Same I just started having these problems. It might be the 12v battery that needs to be replaced. I will keep doing more research
Are you saying it turns over but doesn’t start? Try jumping the 12v battery first.
Karrs Kars i tried but it won’t jump off. it was having coolant issues so i was filling it with water. now it just won’t start
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I don't think do this will solve the problem only a temporary.
My cars completely dead. 😞
Did you try jumping it? Hybrid battery usually never goes completely dead. Could be a dc dc converter or the hybrid ECU
@@karrskars I was thinking it was the battery. The ima light had been on for quite a while. I didn’t know what it meant so I never paid much attention to it. I was just going to try and replace it and pray I don’t spend 1000 for nothing
@@karrskars it turned on when I jumped it but didn’t stay on long
@@belgalvan5113 at the end what was the problem with your car ? Did you fixed it ?
TOTAL WASTE OF TIME, this is not fixing ANYTHING