Questioning Your Martial Art • ft. Matt Thornton • Full Interview
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- An amazing interview with martial arts legend Matt Thornton sharing how important is questioning your martial art and seeking the truth in it. To listen to this interview in a podcast version check www.rokasleo.com
Matt Thornton is a martial arts athlete, trainer, and founder of Straight Blast Gym International, an association of over 35 gyms worldwide engaged in training athletes in Brazilian jiu-jitsu (BJJ), boxing and mixed martial arts (MMA).
He is well known in the martial arts community for his formulation and promotion of the concept of "aliveness" in training, as well as for being one of the first gyms to feature cross training in boxing and other fighting sports at the beginning of the growth of the sport of Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) in the 1990s. He was among the first American-born practitioners to receive a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
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Finally, full interview with Matt Thornton, one of the best talks I've had in my martial arts career recorded for everyone to listen to. If you prefer to listen to the podcast version you can find it here: anchor.fm/martialartsjourney
Rokas man, I think your skills as an interviewer have definitely improved over your journey and it's these really intelligent questions that lead to such valuable discussions such as this one. Well worth the listen! :)
Thank you!
I'm curious about what Ramsey Dewey would aswer to your questions. Do you think you could interview him ? He has a YT channel. You can find him easily.
Hi Alex F, actually Ramsey is on my list of interviews right after I do another one before him :)
Martial Arts Journey did he said yes already
That's great! Ramsey has some really particular and mindfull insights! Happy to hear this! Can't wait!
@@MartialArtsJourney For sure Ramsey is gonna tell you: "Go train". Too much interviews and questions, ideas, without training is nothing. And don't forget that it doesn't matter how much they recommend you BJJ, you also have to see that some of the BJJ guys have got KO by a single punch too, name them, Marcelo Garcia, Roger Gracie, etc. Even they've being training an art that have demonstrated to be effective for many years, they could fail too, for many reasons. You can try to interview those guys who had beaten BJJ high level fighters without using BJJ...Those few guys :) what are they gonna tell you? Just think about it. I hope you're expending the same or more amount of time doing interviews and editing videos as at training yourself, trying to understand the concepts behind the techniques not only by listening to others but to doing and experiencing. Otherwise any martial art you train, it will become like your Aikido. Now, go train. Love and Peace.
Excellent interview! Matt Thornton is very knowledgeable and wise and honest.
Man... That 55:20 exchange nails it
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Another good interview!
Thanks so much Rokas, i'm at the exact same process as you,"young" third degree blackbelt aikido instructor slowly going away from aikido and currently enjoying so much my newly discovered MMA lessons. Your path and research really inspires me a lot and comforts me in the idea that i'm going the right way. There is such a lack of objectivity in the aikido world. Maybe someday we'll be able to extract the few useful tools from aikido to a non hypocrite, enjoyable and usefull skillset and practice.
If you want to talk about that it'll be a pleasure, i've been thinking about this idea about quit a long time ago.
Anyway, take care !
Thank you for sharing! Hearing about your journey is inspiring to me
I don't understand how people could say that Shotokan is ridiculous when its been proven even in MMA?! I would say Shotokan is a lot mores useful than many other MAs. Especially when it is modified for full contact it becomes deadly. One example in MMA, Lyoto Machida. There are others from shotokan backgrounds too. But I totally agree that all MAs should be modified for any kind of free form of fighting like in MMA. Even BJJ is modified when it is in MMA.
Shotokon are ok but Kyokushin or Kudo are better.
uh, mma is NOT free form since there are quite a number of rules to be observed! If contenders are allowed free rein then I believe all mma/bjj fighters would come out with broken limbs and joints by Silat Masters! Even worse, their fanatics will find their idols come out of the ring in casket!
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Lehmin Long,
Nope. MMA without rules are what we called Marine Martial Arts. I've sparred with a lot of Silat people. I've submitted all of them in under 2 seconds.
ismail, lucky you! But, if you can link me to you sparring videos then I will take your claim as just empty can! ;P
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Lehmin Long,
Aren't like you, I don't hide behind a fake account with no face and a fake name. I have contents on my channel. Just go and have a look.
Is there any way to see matt thorton sparring???
That's an interesting question. I'd recommend asking him or his students directly. Why do you ask?
Martial Arts Journey he makes good points and i am curious to see how he moves i also heard that he made up his jkd background ( not sure if true) i heard he only do what's popular to profits (not sure if true) i like many of the things he said and i only ask you because he is in your channel but if you give be his contact i can ask myself
There is no question he has pressure tested his fighting. He was a boxer and is a BB in BJJ in a respected system. He is, what, 49 now? I don't think he needs to prove anything to anybody anymore.
Docinaplane doci. I am not saying he has not. I've said i want to see it. I did not invited him to sparr or challenge his views i just want to see how he moves. Also training in bbj does not make you a lethal weapon or anything. again just saying btw can you provide me his boxing record? I can't find it online. Dude i literally want to know more about him you sounded really defensive
Most of your fundamental or foundation of BJJ is learn in white and blue belt level and will make your superior to the majority of the population on the ground! Most BJJ/ MMA guys know you are always subjected to getting caught with a punch but their chances are less because they practice in these areas or ranges of the fight!!
The highest grading scale for your martial art is your contextual Goal for where you want that vehicle for development to take you. If it can't take you to a place where you pound your goals. it sucks. :3 if the opposite is true Then A+!
Awesome conversation. I subscribed to you after hearing the shortened version of this
Seeing as jeet kune do was never supposed to be a martial art, I see his points as valid yet not at the same time, when Bruce made jeet kune do, he made it having trained years in wing chun, and when he found a lot of forms and stances were useless, and in some cases slowed him down(he began this train of thought after losing a fight he thought he could’ve won), he began exploring other forms of fighting and applying them to his own, while also trying to make wing chun forms more effective through common sense. When he made the Tao of jeet kune do and started applying that philosophy to his training, people started asking him to teach them jeet kune do as if it were its own martial art, but in its essence, jeet kune do is simply the idea that taking what you believe to be the effective part of your martial art and others, and utilizing them to your greatest ability. So when he mentions forms of “jeet kune do” that we’re useless, they were simply not yet realized parts of wing chun and other forms of kung fu that remained. Bruce did not create these forms or edit them in any way, they simply remained because he was basically teaching more effective wing chun, and as he was only human, I’m assuming that some of the teachings just stuck from his years of training a certain way, or, as Bruce unfortunately died in his prime, he did not change or discover the issues with these forms during the time that he had alive. So while these forms may be useless, this has nothing to do with a philosophy that preaches against these forms. To anyone that knows more on the topic than me, thinks I said something stupid, or simply wants to clarify some details of what I have just wrote, please calmly and concisely write your reply below. Thanks for reading.
Ok not too familiar with the history of aikido. But didn't aikido derive from bushido? And wasn't bushido developed by samurai's to learn how to disarm someone armed with a samurai sword? An important note is samurai swords are traditionally trained as a 2 handed weapon. If this is the case isn't it no surprise that aikido doesn't work on other martial arts like muay Thai, karate, judo, jujistsu, western wrestling, boxing.
If you take a martial art out of its context of what it was originally created for then it's no frigging surprise it's ineffective!!
If you want learn to kick well learn taekwondo, if you want to learn how to kick punch and use elbows, learn muay Thai or karate, if you want to learn how to ground fight learn Bjj or wrestling, takedowns and throws learn judo or Japanese jujistsu. Taking any art outside of the context of what is what developed for will make it ineffective , and over the years this is forgotten. In many martial arts so called teachers say that their martial art is effective in a general sense when the reality is the art was probably developed for a specific form of conflict.
I don't think you can use 60s-70s Martial arts in the 21st century. Things change in time.
Good thing.
I question my jiu jitsu for the lack of stand up and takedown defense. I try to learn them as much as i can, but the fact is, that there's not much guys in our gym who do effective takedown game, let alone teach it.
We have mma too, but that's another story.
i think you should seek out safe csrmen. of ummah fight camp. and do more reasearch on aikido. expand your bubble.
So, how do you guys explain why a buncha high level judokas (who O'sensei beat in challenges and "competition") switched over to aikido after they were beat?
Is there any recorded evidence of these challenges and contests? Is there any reliable evidence, other than hearsay and legend, of O'sensei ever fighting anyone and winning?
If not, why should we dismiss all the recorded evidence available, which clearly shows that aikido is pretty much useless as a fighting system?
@@esgietheqroue Well, for starters go look up Kenji Tomiki & why he started aikido after he was like a 8 or 9th dan in judo LOL GO DO SOME RESEARCH WILL YA..HE ACTUALLY STARTED HIS OWN STYLE (AFTER HE GOT WHOOPED BY O'SENSEI LOL) AND IT'S CALLED SHODOKAN AIKIDO OR "TOMIKI" AIKIDO..SO SINCE THE STYLE IS NAMED AFTER HIM AND THEY COMPETE IN JAPAN, RUSSIA, AND OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD-THAT' IT'S PROBABLY NOT HEARSAY BUDDY.
Oh and btw..any of those higher level Tomiki aikidokas would absolutely smash you buddy..you wouldn't last 2 seconds with any of them and I would love to see that so I could laugh my ass off to teach smoes like you a lesson LOL -like seriously?
@@gregwallace9854 So, is there any reliable evidence of O'sensei beating Kenji Tomiki in a fight? Any video footage? If not: is there any footage of him beating any other judoka? Is there any footage of him beating any actual resisting opponent ever?
Also, who are these high level aikidoka that would "smash" me? What are their names? What makes you think that they would smash me or anyone else? On what do you base this assertion?
Do you have any recorded video of high level aikidokas "smashing" someone who was not an aikidoka?
Honestly, the formula that traditional martial arts push as a life journey through self-defense to become a better human being, I believe is not appealing to the younger generation. They want to learn to defend themselves. They have no interest in Katas or Japanese haikus. They have seen the UFC, and they want to understand it. However, the absolute and only thing that traditional marts should generally focus on outside of self-defense is humility. There is just something very humbling when someone takes your back and completely submits you into a tap. If the dojo is not enacting this kind randori, then the student grows up with a false sense of humility. A humility that transcends a disposition of arrogance, "I am humble because I was taught to be, but In my heart of heart I believe I can take you, so try me." They are giving this arrogance because they don't know what crushing failure actually feels like. Once crushing failure is given via a randori, only then can one be truly humbled. You must accept sometimes you will be the hammer and sometimes you will be the nail. If you are the hammer all the time in the Dojo, then you will not learn true humility, you will learn arragance.
Great interview with Matt Thornton. As Matt stated, you can learn all the fight preemptive stuff from books. I also recommend Gavin de Becker's book, The Gift of Fear. In addition, I recommend Left of Bang by Patrick Van Horne & Jason A. Riley and Meditations on Violence, A Comparison of Martial Arts Training & Real World Violence by Rory Miller. "It is better to avoid than to run, better to run than to de-escalate, better to de-escalate than to fight, better to fight than to die." ~Rory Miller
thanks for the recommends. i read Meditations on violence and loved it, gonna check out those others
Live Drilling!! That's what I was commenting about in previous videos. That's where wrestling and point fighting specific training will help you. Not sure if you read these or not but you should check out John Danaher and Farah Ahabi on the JR MMA show. Best Martial arts content ever. I appreciate your efforts. Keep it up
I know his name is Faras* damn auto correct. He has very interesting insights into how intense sparring/drilling needs to be. And how focusing on one art at a time allows you not to overload your system. From my personal experience long grinding wrestling practice with nothing more the hard drilling singles and doubles with the correct amount of live resistance Did more for my confidence in a physical scuffle anything else. Sometimes not all fights are to the death, as a teenager being able to assert dominance while rough housing with peers without having to resort to strikes is a fantastic tool. A few people that attempted to be bullies but in a "friendly" way found out that hours on the mat equal trump physical strength most of the time, and friendships were made. Striking has a place but so does grappling.
Fabio santos much respect
I've heard of him. Brazilian guy. I believe he teaches in the San Diego area. I once knew a guy that learned from him.
Everyone is always talking about pressure testing, mixing arts, ranges, tester methods, with the end result being some great guru of fight science, that's that, they forgot the second half of martial arts "Art". It would seem if you're hands are your paint brush your technical biomachinics would grow beyond measure. Most people worry about fighting which actually makes your fighting OK, however there is a layer system that you can learn over time that goes like this, triangle,circle, square, yin yang, insert anamal etc... structure. Form, cannon, list of techniques used in structure. Twei shew, sticky hands, two person form, ways to apply structure to two people. Push, press, butt, how to move someone's core position. I'm being a jerk here but concepts are based on the strengths of the art involved. Every art has its strengths, what I'm proposing is that there is no magic golden carrot just a lot of hard work.
This talk was simply amazing! tks, Rokas!
I see that you troll or talked down wing chun
Where do you see that?
Is wing chun beyond criticism?
BigHossHackworth It's simply not very practical these days
BigHossHackworth o is not, but why does he has to talk about wing chun all the time
Jose Franklin Ask him