WHY DIDN'T CONSCIOUS RAPPERS CHALLENGE THE "UNCONSCIOUS" RAPPERS???" LORD JAMAR TELLS WHAT HAPPENED
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Because sometimes the love of money makes us a cowards, Math. Same reason street rappers don’t challenge things they disagree with NOW. No one wants to compromise their bag and the relationship for their principles. It is a cultural weakness.
Understood. This needs to change!
Take a listen to my ALL FOR THE LOVE verse MUCH LOVE to Jadakiss, growing up he was my favorite rapper so I had to do that beat justice ✊🏿
Facts OG
@@Mathhoffa lets address the Elephant in the room im from Queens NY been here all my life never moving. the reason why the south is winning is because alot of NYers moved down there! ...........MIC DROP we lost alot of sauce
@LavoisierCornerstone Saw a person in this group sell out saturday night for money from rich white people. I don't trust none of them.
There's a lot off grown folks Hip-hop, most just choose to ignore it and only focus on Jay, Nas, and Ye. People like AG, OC, De La, Skyzoo, Boot Camp, and so many more Older artists release great music all the time. Let's start paying attention.
Agreed. Hip-hop is STILL alive.
People claim to want great hip-hop but refuses to put in any effort and finding it.
Little Brother
Add-2, Oddisee low key
Locksmith, Black Thought and Killer Mike
It was diversity in early 90's and 00's in the mainstream now it's just one sound in the mainstream. Gotta go underground for that realness.
70's-00's
True.
Lupe Fiasco and Wordsworth both dropped mature albums with substance but how many rap fans actually supported those albums 🤔
Who ?
Dead ass, this needs to be open to a studio audience like Oprah. This convo is fucking gold! 🏆
Oprah ain't gon do shit about it, she's part of 'the machine'
@@musakalima8794 agreed. When was the last time she interviewed anybody that really had a message for us
All he saying is we need an full audience like an Oprah or Donahue set up. And I agree with that although I like the barbershop set up. Real intimate.
@@sirjer73 LOL..no grown up is going to tune in to people who use "dead ass" as a phrase
As a southern born dude looking from the outside in, I can say that NY rappers being divided is what made them dope. It made their skills super sharp and although the south is united, our lyrical content suffers because of it. Rapping is still a sport and challenging each other or the best is what makes you become the best. Q tip said it best tho, competition is good it brings out the vital parts...I think NY cats are looking at it from a Money perspective when they say us being united is why we're winning. Also, saying NWA killed conscious rap is bogus..go listen to those first 4 Ice Cube albums. He was going at white supremacy even more than most east coast artists was
New York rappers were more lyrical because that's where rap started and at that time you were expected to be a true lyrical MC. By the time southern rappers became trendy the whole format had changed. It was more about beats and less lyrics. As far as NWA and Ice Cube, simply going against white supremacy doesn't make you a conscious rapper. It's more about teaching the history of black people, elevating the consciousness of the youth so they can be proud of who they are and can build rather than destroy.
@@bullfranthrow Did Ice Cube not have Khalid Muhammed on his albums??🤔 You connect with the youth and elevate them by sharing your personal experiences of the ghetto and how to rise above it, not by preaching to them like Public Enemy did. I didn't really understand or like PE until I was an adult. Wasn't tryna hear that shit as a kid lol.. Cube's music was like slipping the pill in the applesauce for me back then. It was more palatable and easier to digest because it was also entertaining. It's still show business at the end of the day. If you want all knowledge go read a book lol
Huh, that's an interesting perspective. Because I've heard videos talking about how there's no recognized "king of NY" for rappers, unlike in other regions.
Helps that we have all these different voices that want to be heard, and we are more than before giving them the time to speak.
@@nybxcrotona No doubt👌🏾
@@rarespecies83 FUNNY CAUSE ICE CUBES FIRST ALBUMS WERE PRODUCED BY PE WHEN HE CAME TO NY AFTER LEAVING NWA SAME AS DRE WHEN HE LEFT D R WENT STRAIGHT TO NY AND GOT WITH TONE AND POKE HENCE THE FIRM ALBUM..
The machine point is massive because when you really think about it, NWA wasn't really unconscious rap, it's "gangster bravado" was unconscious but it's undertones were definitely conscious. The aforementioned "gangster bravado" is what the machine is today and what the music industry continue to make money off of.
In the end everything is conscious or has conscious undertones. Even booty clapping music comes from the sexual side, which is driven by biology and pretty much the source of all life. Pretty deep actually. In many different ways 😂😂
i agree people didnt know what gangster rap was until the media came up with that term because nwa was really a political group just a different kind of consciousness not like a public enemy or tribe called quest all were different and unique and because boys n the hood the movie kind of made everybody look at the west coast as just a bunch of gangbangers and shit fucked up in the hood . the west coast catches alot of hell for perpetuating the gangster shit and 2pac made them really stand out
ABSOLUTELY
They yelled bitches and hoes out loud. The bar was permanently lowered.
Ghostface said something similar to what Lord Jamar said. He said "them down South niggas love each other." And THAT to me is one of the major reasons for the South taking over hip hop when they did. Brothers up top couldn't get along because someone was from a different borough or whatever. It's to the point now where brothers from up top sound like the brothers down south. The proof is in the pudding.
And even when they didn't they figured out a way to come together for the bigger picture
I think thats a myth. The south had a lot of beef with each other. Jeezy vs. Gucci, T.I. vs Lil Flip, No Limit vs Cash Money, Master P vs Pimp C, Bankroll Fresh vs no plug, etc.
@@lifestraight It's not a myth. Yes, there were beefs in the south like anywhere else on this planet, BUT they didn't hold grudges and they knew how to unite in spite of the beefs unlike the east or west coast.
A good example is when Snoop left Suge Knight and went down south to sign up with Master P because he wanted to release an album dissin Deathrow, P talked him out of that. P said, "We don't need to be getting into it with other Black men.' They(white producers) wanna see us killing each other.” He basically told Snoop to focus on the cash and help uplift other brothers..
P knew what time it was!!
@@Tusc9969 Jeezy and Gucci united? T.I. and Lil Flip united?
New York was in survival mode when it came to Hip Hop We were fighting just to get heard
You'll never have categories of rap because ALL rappers flipflop back & forth. Sometimes they're promoting gun talk next minute they make a song about stay in school... one minute its having lots of women next minute its wifee and ride or die... The rap genre is hypocritical.... just flipflop...That's because there is no moral base...anything goes even with so called conscious rappers.
Well said
Nipsey Hussle is a prime example of that
@@SayWhat336 They'll say you're hating. Many forget that people can hear and read lyrics...
Yall wack
Not well said
Don't agree with him all the time but I love hearing Lord Jamar build with his ppl.
They did challenge them. They were called old heads and haters and stuck in the past
@alexander harvey hip hop is one of the only genres or categories that do that too. Rock n roll bands respect the classic bands before them. Athletes from mlb, nfl, nba etc all respect the legends before them. Actors and actresses respect the OG actors. Hip hop is the only place where the new school openly says fuck the legends smh
You're right!
@@MailmanRicky 100 per cent true, and they are usually letting money determine the quality of something. While some of these guys are indeed haters living in the past, this holds true for everyone. I personally like Drake and Coles music, but I am also a fan of Wu Tang, Biggie and Naughty By Nature. There is nothing that says you can't like both. But I get called a traitor by the old heads for saying anything good about new artists.
This is a great conversation.. I can't help but to notice that no one mentioned minister FaraKhan and his speeches to the conscious and rap community about those in the machine that worked organized against conscious music.
The most slept on comment! Minister Farrakhan was pivotal in supporting independence, promoting peace and unity in the hip hop community and offering guidance.
@@reginaldyourgodbrotha3724 yup and pivotal in the assassination of malcolm X. OH wait im not supposed to mention that am i. "Such a man is worthy of death" so much for promoting peace
How come Minister Farrakhan didn't find conscious rappers then
@@thomaswashington2127that part
The audience fell off on the mid-90s. We supposed to direct the mainstream, not vice versa.
Wow Math. Just wow . Salute from one grown ass man to the next. . This show is major now . You killed this. Knowledge of self is important and im happy to see you pushin the narrative. Especially with the older gods.
The majority of people who are “conscious” got enlightened through music. Use to be a time when being smart was cool and African tags with X tees. Even the so called gangsta rap had conscious songs on they album
Crack open a book
De La Soul and others did challenge, the negative influence came out on top.
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They did challenge... if I was De La, I would be offended. It's like when jay said that ny got soft since snoop crush the buildings. Rappers like Mobb and Royal Flush were like hell nah.. not Queens tho.
They did by attacking the industry but they never called out any artist by name.
PM Dawn was of some alternative consciousness while Blastmaster KRS 1, a conscious rapper, got more love when he was bum rushing Dawn off the stage.
I think conscious rappers were just as debaucheristic and misogynistic as the gangster rappers. They used a a little more charm and a lot less thug when making moves
De la made a clear diss to Raekwon:
"See them Cubans don't care what y'all niggaz do, Colombians ain't never ran with your crew,Why you acting all spicy and sheisty,t he only Italians you knew was icees, niggaz price me." I love both groups by the way.
It came down to money. The "machine's favorite" was getting pushed more, whereas De La, Tribe and Brand Nubian was seeing their budget and promotion get slashed, having to wait years on end to get an opening or having to smooth out their sound.
Criminal Minded- KRS-1 was addressing both movements the conscious and street life. Brand Nubian was both as well but neither had commercial success. Lord Jamar was right cuz New York been divided.
Stop lying
@@ronmatthews how's that lying?
Major Facts
@@ronmatthews
🙄another dodo 🦤 who don’t know wtf they talking about
“Kings lose crowns
But teachers stay intelligent” 🧠
“I’m not a musical maniac
B boy fanatic
I’ve simply made use of what is upstairs in the attic” 🧠
“You’re a king
I’m a teacher
You’re a b boy
I’m a scholar” 🎓
It’s self explanatory
Smarten up 😂
@@Synchronite English must be your second language. CLEARLY
Music now is made for short attention spans,music from my era was made to make u pay attention or u would miss the bars.
Facts
Professor Griff spoke about what happened. Owners of Prisons met with music execs and companies and constructed a plan to put more black people in prison....in the 90s.
@Deuteronomy 28-68 .
Amen.
Closest thing that I didn't know happened was in the Tribe Called Quest documentary highlighting the Native Tongues where a lot of early 90s NY artists did band together as a super group. Other than that, we had the self destruction single from the late 80s, though it was one song like the "hip hop we are the world" message against drugs and violence. Quincy Jones did Back on the Block on his various artists album. After awhile, it was who could make the most hits, who was the dopest. It became more about the competition and the money and accolades, instead of unity and messages for inspiration. I do believe that rap and hip hop needs more variety within the genre, and the artists that did ascend to their peek would still be celebrated with a big audience old and new.
Who would be the KISS of hip hop? Like who has lyrical greatness and can draw a crowd in their 60s? Who can have 3 farewell tours within 3 decades and come back and rap their hits? What rapper would be willing to do that? Rap/HipHop is about 43 to 45 years old now. Who would step up? All these rappers turned actors, which would be the one and say "I'm well off, but the mic is never beneath me"?
I feel you on this. It's like there are countless 70s rock bands who are selling out venues and the fans young and old are showing up. The same as with maze or the ojays they are still able to pack the house.
Culture has same features as a living organism, undergoes birth, growth, maturity, multiply/replicate, apogee, finally undergoes death. Society has changed drastically changed so the replicas has to be like society, change to adapt to the changing conditions... everything must change nothing will remain the same. Even the NBA has changed, it's not like the 90s...its too soft now.
The NBA is way to soft now !!! I can't get in to it. I was a basketball junkie
FACTS 💯💯💯
I enjoyed the conversation. This is good stuff to put out there. In my opinion, it comes down to what the people choose to listen to at that time. The music industry is in the business of making money. That’s what this system is, and they found out that when you put an album from a conscious rapper and an album from an unconscious rapper in front of someone, 6 or 7 times out of 10 the person choose the latter. Of course then they will give the deal to the unconscious rapper, promote the album, all that. It becomes a self sustaining cycle and I think the minute we all crave something deeper is the minute more conscious rappers get their shot. The music industry needs to have confidence that its customers will buy their product…
NY MCs have a whole God MC named Rakim who dropped a top 5 quotable “Its not where you’re from it’s where you’re at” and we still talk about “If you was from” “But if you came from” “Oh but we *insert borough or ghetto or hood here” and then wanna say where is the unity. NY both created and you could make a case in they were their own demise. And that is why everywhere else is able to work together and NY is so competitive cause y’all don’t realize you guys are the reason y’all can’t get along😕
NY been some shit since 95
@Terence Johunkin it’s crazy because it would be NY people thats always quick to point out how someone sold their souls or something yet Hip Hop was sold by them, that’s craaaaazy😂
@Terence Johunkin bruh! I'm from the NYC/NJ area and I was doing my best for a snazzy comeback to this response but I can't. There's alot of truth in what you said. Say what you want to about the South or southern artist but them cats are about their BUSINESS! Luke, Master P, Jermaine Dupri, and others showed motherfuckers how to get their money 💰 and not be such a slave to the industry.
@Terence Johunkin Every empire or mighty civilization must fall. NY was and still is that Empire. It happens to the best of us.
@Terence Johunkin I think I should've clarified that NY had fallen as a hiphop Empire. Jay hasn't been the same since Reasonable, And Nas man is Nas he sticks to his lane and stays true to it. DMX, it was just a matter of time until he flamed out. People don't realize that he was part of the machine, two no 1 albums in the same year? Unheard of. imagine if Micheal Jackson or Prince would of put out two albums in a year! NY was a slave to the record industry, we knew nothing of independence from labels and putting out our own material minus the labels. Hell the first hiphop labels were small independents void of any major label distribution. We were the first to be caught up in the matrix/ machine/ Beast of "show business".
Conscious rappers are always checking these bullshit artist. They never clap back tho. Hopsin for example has always been very vocal.
It's happens in life and it happens in the rap game...you don't take care of ya elders and the community collapses and the young run wild with no direction and leadership of your community. It's simple bro but we living in a time where everybody wanna be young physically and sadly mentally as well
the elders weren't shit though..what did they pass on to the youth? pimping, drug dealing etc..they created the youth..they are fuck ups
They only ppl to blame why non-conscious rappers took over is the machine & the fans IMO
Exactly.
Facts
We should have a self-destruction song, for every generation in hip hop !😇🙏❤️👍🤗
Also, you have to innerstand, that hip hop was New York’s baby. Just like a mother does not want to share her precious baby with no one….just like a child playing with their favorite new toy, they do not want to share. That is how New York mc’s felt and acted😊
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NWA made conscious music ! they just expressed themselves differently because they came from a different coast but songs like Fuck da Police , and Express yourself and countless other songs they made were very conscious ! And when you speak of Ice Cube he’s one of the most conscious rappers of all time !
They trippin for that
Nah we had the Gods here on the East Coast and we not calling our wemen Bitches broads and whores or western names. We substitute or replace it with Kween ,Sistrin ,Empress,Lioness,Wisdom or Earth.
Factz
Yeah I almost cut the video off on that one. I’m like they serious? It doesn’t get my conscious than Ice Cube. Be True to The Game is also a dope conscious record.
Just a perfect example of NY hating on the West
I swear not 1 New York conversation has ever been finished
Balance is needed. I don't always want conscious rap. Sometimes I want the braggadocio, audacious rap . Other times I want introspective rap. Other times I want rap that speaks positively about the opposite s3x. It's just like movies. I don't always want to watch comedy. I don't always want to watch horror.
I think we've surpassed art imitating life with rap music. I believe now it's more of life imitating art. The music has more influence on life than life has influence on the music if that makes sense. Everything in life ain't the streets. Everything in life ain't the struggle. Everything in life ain't about shine. The music hasn't been reflecting what's been going on. We've had wars, all kinds of social changes, pandemics, mass shootings, scandals and all kinds of things occur and it's hardly reflected in the music. I really think a lot of artists are scared to speak on certain issues because if they don't tow the line, they run the risk of being cancelled. That's part of it at least. Everything is safe subject matter. You can rap about killing a black person all you want to but you better not give any unflattering opinions on the lgbtq movement or say anything disparaging about Jews.
This comment should be pinned as the top comment! You hit the nail on the head big bruh!
The problem is the rappers that flip flop being conscious and street at the same time. Like the intelligent gangbanger image nipsey hussle was promoting
u put it so perfectly
As a 40 yr old my hip hop playlist is set from 80-99. I don’t listen to radio or top 40. #oldschool and #newschool for me.
there's all kinds of music out there, the problem here is that most people want 1. the music to be socially acceptable 2. to be completely spoonfed to them. And at the same time its up to us conscious rappers to stop being so egotistical and proud and start to really take this music *business* shit seriously
They did but Babylon ownership (“the machine”) made sure their content wasn’t widespread and some “conscious rappers” started endorsing wild lifestyles…the movement was crushed and the Babylon rappers prevailed.
Yeah, right after Tupac was silenced...
My response to the title of the video before I watch is …. The lifestyle (the bag)
Old rappers are afraid to lose their lifestyle and go against the Machine when it won’t change much .. unless a bunch of rappers stand up and say … enough is enough
Y’all wanna hear that music, y’all gotta make it bros. I’m not stuck in the nineties, I wish y’all made music with the same level of creative integrity. All the other stuff bs or not happens because it’s allowed.
The war that we fight is on two fronts. Against the enemy and against self hate.
Lmao when he said “this is what we funding!!???” 😂😂😂
They did Immortal Technique had a huge movement, and it was the rise of the age of knowledge to some point, but then Drake came along and try to say he was a free agent also, did it without a deal bullshit and thats society now.
I remember a time when I was the only sane voice among my peers. It came to a point where they didn’t want to hear sanity. I understood that my time with them all had to come to an end. I maintained a distant relationship and today most have transitioned or sunk into a place where coming up is almost ( I didn’t day they cant) impossible. Age, lack of education, history, addiction, health, etc are all too much for most to overcome…
It's very interesting that none speak of Krs one. He spoke on this throughout all the albums he put out...the radio stations did not want to play his music...it did not fit the agenda they wanted...
The perfect example is Jay-Z. He said he wanted to rhyme like Talib Kweli and Common Sense but he sold 5 mill so he hasn't been rhyming like Common since. He told Nas on Take Over "switch up ya flow ya shit is garbage, what you trying to kick knowledge?" Then he waited till he was damn near 50 to start dropping info in his songs when Nas was doing it his whole career.
Word
More of the conscious rappers needed to own their own labels or be on independent labels that catered to that music.
That was the situation with many gangsta rappers. Many gangsta rappers owned their own labels back in the 90s. Or they were on independent labels that catered to their type of music. This helped those rappers to get their music out there.
You had gangsta rap labels like No Limit,Sick With It,Suave House,Rap-A-Lot and Young Black Brotha Records.
Conscious rappers needed their own labels.
Yall getting deeper every time i tune in...love...
its the machine but even more its the other artist NOT holding up standards just to get paid. And nobody CALL nobody out bc of fear being called a hater.
People like what they like. I just want good music of all kinds
Lord Jamar dropped the hardest shitz!!! Period
Phonte addressed this on a show a couple years back where he said that there needs to be a sub-genre for “adult alternative rap” kinda like what Little Brother does.
de la soul - stakes is high, common - I used to love h.e.r., dead prez - bigger than hip hop...
Mos Def - The Rapeover
Early cube walked that fine line between conscious n street
I agree with Lord Jamar. The machine is behind behind drill rap, oversexualized rap, and mumble rap.
I blame hip hop media (or those who claim hiphop in media) for not covering the diversity in rap.....for better or worst, when diversity ain't shown people run with what they see and is put in front of them. Sales aside they got to rep the whole culture not just the hot niggas of the wave or trend.. The fall of the source and XXL crippled our culture because those voices got replaced by the culture vultures you see now.
Today is rap. Bring back hip hop. Don't let the industry define what that is or isn't.
I Fucks With Every King In This Room!
I feel so proud knowing that these dudes would be proud of my raps. I think I found the missing link between the right amount of violence and knowledge to bridge the gap between generations while still holding true to traditional hip hop emceeing.
Gotta love that they went from talking about the state of hip-hop to borough politics as only true NYkers will do lol
Lord spoke truth.
It’s not a Skills game anymore.. it’s a popularity contest now.
Wipe ya feet and show love for the work MEO has been entertaining us with! SALUTE!
@1:45 I think the brother meant REGULATED OR BETTER SECTIONED BY GENRE OF RAP!
This was a really important conversation
It's about what the average person wants to hear, supply and demand. It's that plain and simple.
the system is steering the "average" listener into lower vibrating beings... thats why theres a demand for it...
Raise your kids right and boom problem solved
@@TheWrapUpNYC nah we just not into that lyrical miracle stuff we just want to vibe while we smoke or with friends
@@tyrelllawless5117 aka low vibration
That DJ analogy was so on point
All respect due, but Brand Nubian went the gangsta route as well immediately after Puba left: specifically Jamar. Disingenuous of him not to say so. “Pass the Gat” May as well been an East Coast Eazy-E song. Name your rebuttal song, Jamar. 5:37
Gangsta rap had a whole industry behind them,those executives at those record labels didn't want Brothers being taught anything.
The Roots went at the "unconscious" on "What They Do." Now you never see that video anymore. They even took out the subtitles.
Grown people need to just listen to guys like K-Rino. His discography alone will certify you for months on end
Important topic, but the empress sitting in the back is fire. Respectfully.
"Truthfully I wanna rhyme like commonsense, but I did 5 mill, I ain't been rhyming like commonsense" - Jay-Z
Need black music distribution to control what’s heard.
I love this conversation, Lord Jamar made a lot of great points. Especially about early NY rappers not collaborating.
no biting culture was strong in NYC
We also need some educational hip hop too. I mean if Dudes can make tracks about cooking crack, they can make tracks about PEMDAS and SAT Words. Imagine the Melanated Youth if they could recite in their heads the lyrics to a Calculus and Physics tracks when taking test in school.
Lol. Facts! Queens still confusing AF.
53rd St, Rd, Ave, Drive, etc. Lol. You don't know. Gets hella confusing...and with the numbers on the buildings and houses too. Lol.
So funny that they were talking like “why couldn’t we all just get along in NY?” and then 2 minutes later it devolves into a loud argument over boroughs 😂
Everything comes and goes people are going to gravitate to what they want or what they like and let's be clear people love DRAMA OR WATCHING THE ACCIDENTS HAPPEN
Yo this is a GREAT topic 🤯🔥🔥
NWA WAS HELLA CONSCIOUS… FTP was and is the Most Political and Conscious Song of Hip Hop 💯✊🏿😉
The Message has it beat by some years
Public enemy is the most conscious hip hop group ever and any 50 yr old know that.
Abso. “Garbage rap”? Garbage comment. 2:52
"Fuckin' wit me cause I'm a teenager/wit a lil bit a gold and a pager/ searchin' my car, lookin' foe tha product/ thinkin' every nigga is sellin' narcotics".
NWA were not a conscious group. I don't like the stigma around that myth.
The term he’s looking for is called “subgenres”.
That shid about queens roads, sts, and Aves was too onpoint
Lmao what Lord Jamar said about DJs not giving you track IDs is still happening today. Dudes so selfish with something they didn't create.
If you was from brooklyn you stayed in Brooklyn..... Never lied.
It's good to hear the elders reasoning
This is a dope convo! I gotta let my hubby hear this. People are powerful but media controls what goes out and what is received. But, it's coming back around in many ways. People are taking the independent route via social media. It's not lucrative but it's powerful.
This is a great show!!! Great setting! Proud of Math Hoffa !!
5 mics always bigging jay up like he active... 444 was a remake of Life is good, am I correct? First grown man album
Now this clears up a lot of what I remember from back then. Good convo.
Wes Lee The Wordsmith represents authentic hip-hop for the new generation in connection what the brothers are discussing on here.
I agree if New York Hip-Hop/Rap would have shown Unity and kept it together hip-hop as a whole would be totally different today.
Krs-1 "we're headed for self-destruction" was not just a song it was a premonition.
"SHIT WIT SUBSTANCE IZ EVERYTHING 4 MCin'/RAPPIN","IT STANDZ THA' TEST OF TIME 4EVER/INFINITY"!!!⚡🔥💪💪🎧🎤
Lord Jamar nailed on the head 💡 translation, if the Brand Nubians and other conscious rappers were able to continue to cut through, the prisons wouldn’t be filled 💡 Son, even the churches have different categories
Salute Math, these are the type of conversations that need to be had! 🔥🔥🔥
Cornball virtue signalling 😂
People want conscious rap but dont support it at all. Many play it on the low and rep it in hidden Perspective.
Fam closest to the camera is 100% right and exact! Rakim didnt like NOBODY in conscious rap. In addition to what he said: X Clan and KRS-1 were ALWAYS beefing and calling each other names. Brand Nubian came on the scene and and they were fighting among themselves. New acts came in the game like Lakim Shabazz, Poor righteous teachers etc and got NO support from any one that was "supposedly" conscious. In short: we were our own worse enemy, white man just stood back, watched and funded the west coast "kill all black people" rap style. Yeah I said that.
PSA!!!! Everybody go and check out: The Secret Meeting that Changed Rap Music and Destroyed a Generation. Mad Deep.
Queens native and the different "53rd's" LMFAOOOOO 😩😂😂😂😂😂
Conscious is a cool term to throw around,
But true consciousness doesn’t challenge anybody. Humanity has a whole has a long way to go.
Yes it does. It challenges the mind. If we produce children with no ability to think and grow, that’s why it doesn’t challenge them. Most people don’t give a damn about knowledge. That’s not the fault of the ones who do the knowledge. It’s the fault of those who don’t know. Then when and if we package it the proper way, then it has the desired effect. That’s when the hate starts.
What type of money was Afrocentric Hip Hop generating?
I remember seeing Sista Souljah doing an interview in the early 90s. She was talking about how some record company people wanted her to do something different. She said they told her that, "the Black revolution wasn't selling".
So how profitable were most conscious rappers? I know Public Enemy sold well. But they seemed to have crossed over some. Maybe this was because of the work they did with rock bands like Anthrax?
Did conscious Hip Hop have a more niche appeal overall?
To categorize Lil Nas X: Booty Warrior Mumble Pop
11:39 - Who feels it knows! I got trapped in Queens, like that when I was a kid. No bus, walking through repetitive numbered streets, in the early morning, trying to get back to BK.
The brotha wearing the blue raggedy hat seems drunk. 😆
His name is hynaken